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SPEAKER_03

Howdy, gents. Welcome to another episode of our perfectly named podcast. It is what it is, even though that's not the name of it. I totally lost my train of thought. Uh thanks for joining us here. We got another good episode. Uh a lot of stuff to uh catch up on in the past, especially since we finally have a little bit of fantasy action since we start with the March Madness tournament. Uh that kind of kicks off our season early because that uh determines our draft order. Um and uh yeah, then uh still rolling into what's good, week in history, uh a trivia game that is going to be NCAA March Madness themed for you boys to get ready for. Uh and then a couple of random things, and then question of the week, as usual. So let's get into it. Uh, I think a good place to start is with the NCAA tournament. Like we talked about, this determines what our draft order is for the next year or where we get to choose our slot. Um so from your guys' perspective, I always think it's interesting to see. I want to see right away who people pick as our winners. And as I sent out, very, very interesting that seven out of eight of us picked either Duke or Arizona. Uh, so not much parody in terms of who we think the winners are gonna be. The one who always stands true is Sarav. And I'm always jealous. I don't know if jealous is the right word, but I always respect your fandom. Your fandom is that if UConn is even decently good, you are just they're going all the way.

SPEAKER_00

This is this is the same, this is the same reason I refuse to ever be part of another fantasy league or anything. I can't have the emotional hedging, right? And so I hate this idea of like this is a team I'm rooting for, and then this is who I think will win. It's easier to do when Yukon is like not good at all, and we're like really very out of the game. Then I'm like, okay, that's fine. Then I can like, you know, be more objective. But when we're remotely in it and have a shot, like I can't not. I need to have like every place that I've, you know, every bracket I've done, it might have different like you know, lead ups to it, but it's Yukon winning across all like four that I've done done because I want to watch the game and I want to root for the one thing, and that's it. It needs to be all on the line.

SPEAKER_03

So and it also helps that generally speaking, historically, it works out for Yukon where it has a pretty good team. They're they're probably gonna be in uh contention for it. So uh so that's awesome. Yeah, I was very I was kind of happy the way that Villanova's draw turned out that we were in eight seed. And so then even if we won, we were going up against a one seed where like there wasn't as much of that conflict. It was like, okay, I can as a fan predict them to win one, and then it's like I don't feel bad about then choosing the one seed over them, yeah. Uh especially since it was the one seed that I'm choosing to win. So it made it very easy. Uh unfortunately, Villnova's uh season came to an end without a victory, and it was and as as I was thinking about it, the whole season it was it was a it was a pleasant surprise because the team was much better than it was expected to be. We came out of the gates, I mean everyone thought that we were gonna finish towards the bottom of the big east, you know, brand new coach, brand new team. We didn't know how everyone was gonna work together. And we had a very good season in that we won most to all of the games that we should have won. Um we didn't have any big wins, didn't beat UConn, didn't beat St. John's. Um we're competitive in those games. We were competitive for we didn't get blown off the court. Except for the one that St. John's came off of their really bad loss against UConn and absolutely took it to us. Um but that was to be expected. Yeah. But it but because it it was such a good season, it made the postseason so much more disappointing where we lost to Georgetown and then lost to Utah State kind of not even really close. And it made the whole season kind of disappointing, which sucked because if we had just been like mediocre throughout the whole season, like didn't make the tournament, I feel like I would have been okay with the season. But the fact that we did so well and had such a surprisingly good season that not winning a game in the postseason feels like a huge letdown. Uh it kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth. So that that was kind of a bummer because the expectations were low coming in. You know, it was like, how did the season go relative to preseason expectations? Like a B plus. How did it go relative to like after the regular season, like a C minus? You know, it's like you guys had like some more hopes? I think at that point, just because the team, the team was good. Like, it's so rare that you beat all of the teams that you need to beat. You don't have a letdown game. The only ones that you struggle with are against good teams. Now that's an indicator itself, is that if you can't win one big game, that's an indicator for going into terminal stuff like or uh postseason stuff. But like play against Georgetown in the biggest tournament, like that's a game you gotta win. Like you have to win that at that point. And we couldn't even be back.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like the Hodge, the the Hodge injury is a good thing. The Hodge injury is big in that. Like I mean, they're they they have a short bench to begin with, short rotation, uh, and absolutely no size uh outside of of Brennan for anybody that actually played. So and Hodge is not a big guy by any by any means, but he can fill that that power forward spot. And without him, like there's there was really nobody that got any minutes, any significant minutes that could could step in and fill in. And that's what I mean. It's the size of the thing.

SPEAKER_03

I was just gonna say Georgetown double rebounding and on rebounds, and then Utah State doubled us up on points of the paint, like everything down low, like that's just that's just where we got crushed.

SPEAKER_02

Uh so it was I don't I don't know. It was it like would is it sad to see them bow out like that and have like a downer of an end to it? Sure. I but I I fully expected it. I didn't expect them to to really do anything. I I did expect them to beat Georgetown. Wasn't surprised that they lost.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, either way, bummer, but uh you know, better than than we thought it it was gonna be uh to start, and we'll see where it goes next year. So now the only biggest representation is uh Yukon and St. John's. Obviously, we don't have anyone from St. John's here, so we'll see how Yukon does. Always, as we've you know, see it all over the place, like it's really hard to get behind Yukon all the way because of Dan Hurley. He's just a tough guy if you're not part of the school to go to bat for.

SPEAKER_02

Um the one time when like people were in his corner is because he was good up against Mick Cronin. Right. Because it's like it's like the one coach who is more of an asshole than Dan Hurley. So it's like, you know what? We're good with Danny Hurley winning this one.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Uh on the bracket side, fairly chalky to start, just the big upset uh recently was.

SPEAKER_00

Can someone clarify for me? What does chalky mean?

SPEAKER_03

Chalky is essentially that the higher seed is winning. Interesting. So like if you go chalk the whole way through, you're always picking the high seed. And you have and your final four is all the number ones. All ones.

SPEAKER_01

That is not what I would have guessed. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's a weird.

SPEAKER_03

I don't actually don't know the history of it or why it's chalky. Um, I'm sure there's some etymology behind it. But yeah, so it so it fairly it it's it's it's fairly chalky, with I think Texas being the lowest seed right now, and they were in the plan game, uh, which is kind of weird, but that's still like a big school. Uh, there's no real Cinderella stories. Um, and then Iowa beating Florida. So in terms of our brackets, that's really the only big one that's affecting people's outcomes right now because I think three or four people had Florida in the final four, who's not out. So it depends. So we'll see uh what happens and what teams can make it because there can be some uh shuffling. Um yeah. All right, so that's kind of like broad strokes update. I'm sure we'll touch on things as we uh keep going on it, but uh it's good to have that back. It's queer, it's crazy that it's like the first weekend, it's like a flourish as you get all these games right off the bat, and then you take like a week off. You know, like you're like all in it, and then it's a big break now between the next weekend. Um all right, we're rolling into what's good here. I just want to say off the top, because it was mentioned this past week, uh, I think you know, what's good, shout out to BK that he got a big promotion uh this week that he's really pumped about. It sounds like just you know, just wanted to mention it if he's listening that that's awesome. I wish that I had better like perspective as to what that means and how important it is. Obviously I know that's important on a CFO, but yeah, but in terms of like levels in the company, you know, not being uh not being in that realm, it's harder for me to like conceptualize like what that means. But obviously, CFO in any uh in any um context is a big deal. So uh that's awesome, man. Good job for you. Uh you know, it's good to hear again all of us keep on crushing it, it seems like, uh, in our in our little group, which is uh which is solid. So appreciate the good news.

SPEAKER_00

All right. Uh what's kicks off with what's good. Kick us off. Um a very specific thing that came to mind um that I was just very noticeable or memorable for me. I was home visiting my parents this weekend. Um and it was just again kind of like a mostly hanging out with like my dad while my mom was like working or around and studying because she's doing juggling a lot.

SPEAKER_03

Um she's still studying, huh?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she's uh in like a a whole course to get get some new certification. Like it's she's doing it part-time while working a job. Like it's nuts. Like she's good for her. For someone in her 60s, yeah. She's like all about it. And so um yeah. So, you know, uh it's it uh it's it's it's nice, and then it's also got its drawbacks in that like my dad always wants to like do stuff, and she's just like can't make the time because and so what we ended up doing a lot of was just like doing stuff in the house, so we're still kind of like together, but like she's on her computer basically, like doing stuff while we're you know watching things or hanging out. Um but the bigger uh what's good here was just a very interesting thing that unfolded. Uh my dad, you know, he was kind of like, Oh, we should like what what if we went out to dinner? He was looking at my mom and he was like, Do you think we can make some time to just go out to dinner? We haven't done that in like forever. Like maybe, and my mom was like, Ah, it's just really gonna be tough. I have like to submit this thing by like 11 p.m. tonight, and like it's a whole thing. Um, and so he was like, All right, uh, and then I think it was her idea. She was like, What why do you get what what what if we like ordered and just picked it up and just brought it back here and we just ate it at home? So I was like, all right, that's a good in-between. And so there's like an Indian restaurant that like generally they like in Newtown. Um, and we ordered from there. Uh I just kind of mostly like figured out what they wanted. Then I ordered some things and like we went and picked it up, bring it back, get all the food out. Uh, they had to like we had to wait till they finished some things. Like, I'm starving at this point. It's like 9:30. We're eating like a really late Saturday dinner, uh, even by my standards. And I'm like, oh my god, I can't wait to eat. So we'd grab everything and I'm like grabbing my plate, make myself a little like appetizer plate first before I go to like the mains. Um, and we'd ordered a bunch of like Indian food basically. And so one of the things we'd gotten on like the appetizer level was just an order of like tenduri chicken. This was my idea. I was on the fence about adding it to our order, but I was like, I feel like these places are starting to shrink their portions, and like I would I'm just a carnivore, so just like to have like more protein if I can. And so I was like, let's add this other order. So I was on the fence to order it from the starting. We get it, you know, we sit down, we're all eating, and I like dig into this piece of tenduri chicken. And as I, you know, like and we're just eating with our hands because we're Indian. And like I like I'd broken it with like a piece of non-bread. I was basically taking like a non-bread and like pulling a piece of chicken out. As I pull it out, I realize that like the entire inside of this chicken is just like gelatinous pink, like it is not cooked beyond like a very and it's clearly been grilled. So like there's grill marks, and the outside looks beautiful, but they just did not get beneath the surface. Um and I also know how this happens from like a cooking perspective. It's basically like you thought that you could just give all the different pieces of the bone and chicken the same amount of time on the grill, which is not how it works. Like if you have like a thermometer. That too, but it also gives like a big ass like piece of thigh. Like, yeah, if you got to take you know the drumsticks off because those are smaller pieces and they're probably like starting to dry out, you don't take all of them off at the same time. And so I think that's what whoever this person was making it did. It was a huge amount of just pink gelatus chicken. And I don't know, you guys maybe been in similar moments in other contexts, but I had this thing of like, I was like, everything's ruined. Like it wasn't conscious, I wasn't thinking that way, but my emotions in that moment was like, fuck this dinner, like uh, like you know, just immediately it all sucks, yeah. It all sucks. Like, I'm gonna go throw this out now. Like I'm annoyed, like it's just tainted this whole thing. And it was interesting watching my parents' reactions. So my mom was immediately like, We're gonna we gotta call them, like they can't do this, like this is crazy, whatever. And I'm like, Yeah, honestly, you know, you're not wrong, we gotta do that. Uh and then my dad, he wasn't like disagreeing with my mom, but his reaction was just this very calm like, oh, just throw it in the air fryer for a couple minutes. And I don't know what it was, but like it broke something in my brain that I was like, oh, yeah, we can just fix that. Like, we can fix this. Like it's it's still a fuck up on their part, but like we can just make this chicken eatable ourselves by putting it in the air fryer. And again, we're still gonna call and we're still gonna be like, hey, this happened, by the way. Like, what's up? And they gave us like a refund on just that uh part of the bill. But like, I was just so shocked. I was like, this is so funny that me and my mom were like ready, like my mom's ready to go to war. I'm just really like upset because I was like looking forward to this, and like just the first bite, you have something go sideways, you're like, uh, and then my dad was just like throw it in the air fryer, and I'm like, yeah, actually, we could just do that. We could still eat this. Like, it's not the end of the world. And I have no idea why, but in that moment, like this weird polarizing reaction from both sides, um, where like my mom was like pissed and like my dad was very chill and like offered a solution. I was just like, Oh, yeah, that's uh that's a good way to be.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Yeah, but also both are kind of appropriate, like you said.

SPEAKER_03

You're like, Both are appropriate. One side should be pissed, should call them. That's all appropriate. But then at the other hand, on the other side, it's like, okay, but we can do something about it and make it better.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, exactly. And I was just like, I don't know. There's something I really, really appreciated about like that, which is yeah, we're gonna call them, we're gonna say, hey, you know, you didn't cook this all the way, and what are you gonna do for us? I was honestly somewhat expecting them to like comp the whole bill because it's like what if that would have been the right move.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I thought.

SPEAKER_00

What if we expect it's like what if we got sick? Yeah, what if we had eaten anything? They were just like, their actual their first offer was uh we can make you another one. And I was like, You think we're driving 25 minutes again to pick up like another one? It's like no, she's like, Oh, we could do a refund. Whatever, man. I don't want to fight on this, but like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um I just thought that that's where your story was going, was that you know, your mom was pissed, you know, she was in a tizzy, she was gonna call them, and then you looked over at your dad, and he was and and like he was just halfway through it eating it. She was just eating it.

SPEAKER_01

He was like, I don't know, it's not that bad. He was kidding.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we we did out of we did have a funny reaction before I realized it, because he was like, Do you think this chicken's like wetter than it should be? But he had he he he worded it wrong. What do you think? And that like the so the way that they like if you've had tinduri chicken before, it's a dry, like it's it's grilled, and it's all the spices, and then it's grilled, and then sometimes they brush some oil on it while it's grilling, and like whatever. There's some people who do another thing, and I think this restaurant was doing this for this reason. They will cook it and then they'll kind of apply like another thin layer of like you know, spices that are either like in like a creamy or like a yogurt yogurty kind of like consistency, they'll put on top, and it's like almost like a good way to compensate. If you're like, I don't know if my chicken's gonna taste like seasoned throughout, like, let me just compensate by adding another layer in the final kind of dressing. And so people still feel like they're getting all this flavor from this food. So I'm thinking he's referring to wet as in like the outside of the chicken is wet, because I'm like, yeah, some people do it this way, man. Turns out he's like, no, he's talking about fucking like the inside of this chicken, and it's like, yeah, but thankfully, like, you know, nobody threw up or had diarrhea or anything. But um, yeah, I just appreciated like that weird this is actually not that bad. Uh in a moment is then in a moment that really wasn't that bad, but it is just kind of like you look forward to something, like the tiniest thing makes you suddenly like, you know, get more annoyed. But anyways, sure. That was mine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I was I was interested in how that was gonna turn into what's good when you were talking about a raw chicken meal. I was like, all right, we're gonna take a turn here somewhere.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_03

That's cool. Uh all right, Brandon, what you got?

SPEAKER_02

So my what's good, and unfortunately, I miss the majority of the basketball action from this weekend. Um, but uh wasn't that mad about it because I took Teddy down to Universal over the weekend and we did Was it just Teddy? We did Harry Potter World. It was just Teddy. Yeah. Oh yeah, just Teddy. Because he he randomly, and well, when I when I planned this trip and when I put it together for him, he had this like random Friday off. So Friday was was a day off of school for him for like some kind of in-service day or something. It was like, man, that's so random. What are we gonna do about that? Um and then we initially were looking at like spring training stuff to take him to like a Phillies game down there to do like a quick day trip for it. Um, like the Phillies game that we would that they had available was like the also the future stars team or the futures game. So it was like nobody that he would have known or anything. So it's like, eh, it's it's a and flights to Fort Lauderdale from here were expensive, hotels were super expensive. And I was looking at it, I was like, man, I mean, like for that, like we could just go into Orlando. And then we were like, oh, I mean, he's on the like they're all on this like super Harry Potter kick. Like that is their, like, that is their shit right now. They're like, Yeah, how far into it are you into the book? Uh we're on the fifth book. We're like ten chapters in into the fifth book. Yeah. Just came out. Yeah, yeah. This one just came out in March. But that's what like like we were listening to it, and we listened like the way the the books go, the books get like progressively longer as it goes. And I was looking at the audiobook, and the first the first book was like seven hours, the second book was like nine hours, and then you get to like the because we were on the fourth book, which is the one that I wanted to finish before we went on our trip, because they they do some, they like they have some stuff in the park that is is is relevant to the fourth book. Um so I was like, man, all right, I I want to do this. And that released last month. So that came out on on February 10th, I guess it was, um, or February 15th, something like that. And I looked at it, it was 22 hours long. I was like, I mean, there is like there's there's no way. I hope we get to the parts that we do. Like, I just want to get to like the different schools because they do like a pep rally for Dermstrang and Boboton there, and they had like a whole like show for it. Um and he was like, he's not gonna know what any of this is unless unless we actually like listen to it. Um I mean, we we crushed that in like three weeks. They those kids are are animals about when are you listening?

SPEAKER_03

You said you did most of it in the car, but I feel like we do car rides aren't like super long to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, anytime we're in the car, um they'll come with me to to to do pickup and and and come home and they'll like stay in a car and listen. So we get like two, like by the time we get to the little daycare and then home, they get like a solid half an hour in. Um but they'll they'll sit down and listen to it uh during their um during their breakfast, they'll listen to it during lunch and then and a snack time. Basically anytime they're like at the at at our little gray table that we have out in like the kitchen area uh and and sitting down there and eating, they're they they put it on the Alexa and just like listen to it and and they'll they'll crush a chapter. So yeah, so I mean we we got all through that in no time and we were able to watch the movie and everything before before we went. Nice.

SPEAKER_01

Nice.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, they're they're crushing those audiobooks. They're are are totally enamored uh and just completely swept up in in Harry Potter stuff. They they were Harry Potter, they did Harry Potter costumes for Halloween, and those are like like the number one toy that's played with right now is that they throw on their Gryffindor robes and they go to school and they they go around with their little they had they had straw, they like they have these like plastic straws that they use as wands that they go around in. They're just doing expellia arms to each other, just yeah doing doing random wizard shit. I don't know. But they are they are so so deep into it. Um and uh James, James one didn't have off school, so it was a school day for him and like didn't feel great like taking somebody out of school. I eventually So with the snow days, they made that Friday a half day. So Teddy technically missed a half day of school for it. But I was like, well, I mean, trips already planned, so I can't do anything about it now.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um but James had school. And also James isn't quite tall enough to ride all the stuff that's there, and like he's he he's still five. So it's like like walking around a park and doing all that like long days there. I didn't I I had some concerns about how he could hang. So it's like not not really the right time, I think, for for James to to do it. But like Teddy, and that's the thing that I struggle with for a lot of these things. And and because they were so like enamored with it, I feel like the window on this stuff is so tight. And I feel like like like we have to like thread the needle on this. Like, and it was because like if if we wait. for for something. And I I just think it would be a different experience that Teddy would have had there than what he had when we went. Which is why I was glad that we we ended up doing it now while while he's in this phase. Because I don't know how long this phase is going to last. I don't know if this will be like a lifelong thing and he'll be uh be a a fan like that forever or if it's you know something that's a little bit more of like a like a flash in the pan. Um the first thing we did when we got to the park is he he wanted just wand. But that was like his his big thing is he wanted to get the because they have like they have a bunch of different places where you can go around the park and like do magic and like like stuff happens in the park when you do the magic trick. Yeah like these interactive wands. It's it's really cool. I got and I gotta say like I always saw Orlando as like the or Universal Orlando as like the redheaded stepchild to Disney as like this kind of like just also ran thing. It's awesome. Universal's awesome especially like the the like the Harry Potter world and the stuff but the way that they do it is is is really impressive. And it's it's it's as immersive as anything that you would find in a in a Disney park. It's it's super cool. And that's what I don't I didn't count. They give you a map that shows all the the spots where you can go around and do and and do magic. But between the two parks that we we went to I think each park had at least like I don't know 10, 15 somewhere around that that you could go and do. So that's that that's what he really wanted to do first. We went right to they had this thing uh Olivanders where you can go there and they have like a little show where like the wand maker is there and they pick one kid out of the audience to come through and they like get their wand to choose them and they go through this like whole whole doing like magic for them and and things and I was like man that would be so cool. So we got there first it we stayed on like on the resort and got a so we got early park admission with our tickets. So we got in we made a beeline we went right there we were the first ones in line waiting for it. There was like one other group that came behind us and then they were letting us in I'm like all right well we got a 50-50 shot I turn around and look and this little girl has a birthday pin on. I'm like well shit okay all right he's not he's not gonna get it so he he wasn't he wasn't picked for it um and he didn't realize that they only did one so he like she went and then he was like wait why aren't I going? And I was like well I I mean that that that's not how it works. Um so we we did we we ended up going back through and then we were like with a whole bunch of people so no no shot so he didn't get picked to to do the show um but then they had this like room right out where they have like the shelves with a bunch of boxes of wands that and they they the way that they do the wands is they have like all different kinds of wands um where they they are like made out of different woods and have different cores for them or whatever. So we were like opening the boxes and he was like checking out the wands it was basically like a wand fitting for him that he ended up doing. And he said he said like he he found this wand he's like yep this is the one and he told me when we were walking through the park because we heard like some of the Harry Potter music playing he was like dad I heard that music playing in my head when my wand chose me like like that's how I knew my wand was and I was like all right that's really cool. But it's it's like it's like that kind of that kind of like like the that like magicness of it and like the the whimsy of all that I I I don't know how long that's lasts. Uh and it's something that I'm just like like I I'm glad that we did it now that he got to hear his music and have his wand pick him and that was like the the experience that he got to have. So yeah that's awesome that that that part was really cool. What was his favorite which I was also happy with because they they do um they have now they have these like second generation wands and they're everything is is fairly expensive uh to to do it there. And they have these like second generation wands that are like 90 bucks um that they they like light up and they have like haptic feedback and they connect to the app and you can like track your progress doing all this stuff and you get house points for doing it. So it's like a much more involved it's it's like a much more involved thing which is cool. But I don't think he would care about any of that. But I I'd gone into this planning to spend 90 bucks because I thought that he would want something like that. But they're all like they're character wands from the movies. So you can get like Harry Potter's wand or Hermione's wand or Ron's wand. He didn't want anybody else's he wanted he wanted to find a wand that was going to choose him and do his own which was like 60 bucks. I was like all right you know what? Happy accident. We're good. Wow um for the rides uh Teddy desperately wants to like rides but he really really does not so we we got we went and they they have this like mini like family roller coaster uh called the flight of the hippogriff which is like a basically like a runaway train type of roller coaster. And I was like, you know what let's start here. So after we got our wand we went and we went on this ride. And it's like one of the rides where like I brought my bag like everything was totally fine or whatever. The ride starts and he is like white knuckled diff as a board going through it.

SPEAKER_01

And at one point we're going around this like tight turn and he goes there's sucks and a bunch of people behind us start laughing. What?

SPEAKER_02

It's like so then we get off that ride and he he he didn't love it. And then they have Harry Potter Forbidden Journey is like the one that like goes through Hogwarts. And I'm like you know what from what I and and I don't know anything about it. All I but from what I had seen on it it looked like you're like one of those rides where you're like sitting in something and you're in front of a screen and like it moves around and it like looks like you're doing thing and it's kind of cool. Which is kind of that. But you're also on a track and you're actually moving and there's parts where you're not in front of a screen the parts where you're not in front of a screen has like a dragon pop out at you and has like dementors come and like fly in your face like like real ones that are not on the screen. Yeah. So halfway through that ride he just shuts his eyes and is he's just he's not screaming or anything. He doesn't say anything but he he shut he shuts his eyes and goes through it. And he he afterwards like in hindsight looking at it he says it was cool. He says that he enjoyed it he did not at the time it was it was not his favorite thing to to have done. If you ask him what his favorite ride is he'll he'd probably say that. And I I thought that ride was awesome. Like that was that was a lot of fun. Uh they did it well and I I I don't know what the mechanics of it were and how they have you move in it but like it really felt like you were flying which was like really cool I'm I'm like I'm I'm really intrigued in the way that they they were able to work everything out. But I think his his actual ride was he like what they have the Hogwarts express where she go on a train ride and they have like a little like show thing that happened in there like a little experience happens through there. So if that counts as a ride that would be what I think his actual his actual favorite ride was. And and so you didn't I'm assuming you didn't go on Hagrid's uh motorbike adventure No Hagrid's motorbike was also was was definitely out which I which I was really looking forward to insane. Yeah I I knew that we probably weren't gonna make it um and then I went to the Gringotts one too the Escape from Gringotts which I I think is is it's like an indoor roller coaster type thing. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah we we ended up out doing that because and also the dragon there's like a dragon that sits on top of that that breathes out fire every so often. And it's like an intense fire that comes out where you can like feel the heat if you're anywhere around it. He was deathly afraid of it but anytime it was starting he did not want to leave like he wanted to watch it but whenever it happened was like shitting his pants for it to happen. So it was there there was a lot of there was a lot of push and pull and uh and conflicting emotions there for for some right time and he enjoyed it and it was worth it. It was the right time he totally enjoyed it I you know I'm I'm sure he'll he'll want to go back and he we like like we got we got tickets to the two parks. We could have gone anywhere and I kept I kept telling him because there's like other stuff to do in Universal like a lot of other stuff. They they have a lot of stuff there. They have like a superhero uh part of it where there's like uh Spider-Man stuff um they have like a minions thing and a Shrek thing and and a whole bunch of other things that we could have seen but he was adamant that he was perfectly content to walk around go into the shops see the see the little shows that they had because they had had little performances on on a couple of stages throughout that he really really got a kick at it doing his magic.

SPEAKER_04

So that's cool.

SPEAKER_02

Did James have FOMO or was he very much just I I had a lot of guilt I felt terrible and was I thought he was going to lose it and be so upset about everything. Totally fine. He was totally fine with everything he he had his his good time here they called us and he was telling us about the different things that we should check out. He did the only thing he said is that we needed to go into honey dukes and bring him back a whole bunch of candy which which we did. Nice. Yeah yeah good for him yeah so he he was he was a great sport about it even though he is like eyes into it. Yeah yeah very very chill to be slow yeah yeah yeah that's cool and all the I did think he'd like he'd like it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah and all like the plane rides hotel stuff all that all that went went smoothly with all the TSA issues and yeah yeah but it had nothing to do with the TSA issues and we were able to get through like security totally fine.

SPEAKER_02

Like the checklines that we were in were were were great. And getting to and from the the hotel was fine hotel was fine. Getting home our flight was delayed by like over an hour and and we had a lot and I didn't realize how late I had booked it we had an 855 flight that got uh got pushed to 1003 and we actually took off around like 1015. So we ended up getting home like like we got home home at like 115. So uh and he didn't really sleep on the plane. So super late night for for him but he was like he was a trooper about it and he was he was fine all in like the airport. Like we the transportation got us to the airport three hours before our flight time because like that's what they do to make sure you don't miss your flight. And then we had our flight delayed an hour. So we we we had four hours at the airport. So we did a nice yeah yeah but we did it we did a nice leisurely dinner um got to walk around a little bit we popped headphones in and he listened to some more of his book had his tablet and stuff so he was he he was pretty patient all things considered um which I shocked me because he got like absolutely zero sleep it was it it was wild. The night the night before we were going to bed and I told him I was like look Teddy I'm setting an alarm for six o'clock we're gonna wake up at six o'clock you can get in the shower in the morning we'll get our stuff get get all all dressed and ready we'll head to the shuttles that start at seven I wake up at 412 to a dripping wet Teddy standing next to my bed going put these towels. What I said Teddy did you get in the shower?

SPEAKER_03

He said yeah where do I put my towel I said buddy it's not even close to six o'clock yet it's four in the morning what are you doing like you dude he was he was ready to go he was he was amped for the day that's awesome that he just went and took a shower and felt he's gonna take care of business I'll be ready to go dad dad's still sleeping but he'll have to shower in the morning so yeah wow yeah that's great not not a lot of sleep for uh for either of us yeah but it was a really really good trip it's a lot of fun yeah that's nice all right uh cool my what's good so mine is kind of uh tournament related as well so I was uh obviously big weekend all the games going on love watching them all you know and really like the best way to watch it like YouTube TV has kind of ruined me for it because they have multiview where you can have four games on at the same time which is exactly how many go on at the same time for the tournament. So it's like once you get a taste of that it's hard to go back to that. So I was going to be on reserve uh this whole weekend um so I was I was off on Thursday but then Friday through Monday I was gonna be on and I was looking and seeing what I was gonna get and I was fully expecting that I was going to get a trip um uh because it I was just next in line and it it fit with the amount of days that I had and then the trip started out where I was going to be in Grand Rapids for 30 30 hours. I was gonna get there Friday morning so I was like okay perfect I can watch all of the games on Friday and I'll be all set. Then when I got assigned a trip it was not that trip I still had like 24 hours off but it was now in San Juan and Puerto Rico. Big issue with that is that YouTube TV only works domestically when you're international it does not so this was on this was on Thursdays and I'm like I'm like shit man I was all set up gonna watch in Grand Rapids now what do I do? And there was something that was on my list that I've been planning on doing because there are ways around it there are ways to get creative uh with the use of VPNs that you can you can be creative about how you do this. The only problem is that I travel around with a Roku stick and I watch everything on my TV. Well you can't run a VPN through your Roku stick natively. A way around that is that you can have a portable travel router. So essentially you have a little router that you either plug into an Ethernet cable in the hotel room. So this is more like this is for anyone that travels a lot. These are just some tips about how you can do this sort of stuff. So you either plug an Ethernet cable in and it's wired and it can then send out it from there or it can be a Wi-Fi repeater. So you you essentially log into the Wi-Fi network on your router and then it repeats it as your own private network. And so then the benefits are that are that A, all of your like most hotels you have to log in via like a splash screen and they have to authenticate you have to type in your route you know and it's a pain every time with all of your devices because I have my phone I have my Roku stick I have my work uh iPad I have my personal iPad of all these devices that I always have to log on to well now your devices just remember your travel router's network. So once that's connected all of your devices then connect to that router which makes it very easy. So it's your own private network that's password protected and I can set up a VPN through the router that then is filtered to all of my devices. So it was on my list to do this at some point but it was like it's not a priority it's fine. It's kind of like a nuisance when I'm away but for this I was like no like YouTube TV with multi-view like I need that on the big screen. So I immediately went on to Amazon. This is like Thursday at like 2 p.m right and uh but my flight uh was leaving at eight I think on Friday morning I have to be there an hour early essentially I had to leave the house at 5 15 in the morning and I was like man prime two-day shipping like no way so I find the router that I had been looking at uh go to um order it and there's an option and says hey you know you can get it free delivered between 4 a.m and 8 a.m I'm like what how is this an like that's in like eight hours from now and I'm not near an Amazon distribution facility or anything. So like it was shocking to see that that was there. And I was like but still 4 a.m to 8 a.m I have to leave by 5.15 like there's no way but sure enough my alarm goes off I wake up and I see that I had a a ring notification that there's someone that you know at the door earlier on and it was an Amazon driver delivering the package there at like 415 in the morning. And I'm like no way. So I went went down got it threw it in my suitcase it's awesome. It's just you know basically like the size of your palm just threw it into my suitcase set it up and it worked perfectly ran the VPN easily had YouTube TV up and it was awesome. Wow so that's so that's my what's good is just how perfectly that all worked out that you know that like the trip switched and within you know eight ten hours like I was able to have this device delivered that allowed me to watch it on the big screen uh in my hotel room.

SPEAKER_00

Unfortunately it was what's that I was gonna say is this is one of the maybe the first instances in my memory of like the insanity of what Amazon enables yeah feels like it really like saved the day as opposed to the rest of the time when you're like nobody should need something between 4 a.m and 8 a.m yeah right yeah like I can't imagine that one driver like you know he's like oh man you know he's probably on like like on like reserve for them of like hey if anything comes up you can do like the 4 a.m ones like usually nobody does but whatever and here's me Amazon has like Uber drivers on stuff like I don't know just like someone but I they have to have people that are like on call.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah you know that it's like hey something needs to be delivered here I don't know like I don't know how they get the the product around I don't I whatever whoever's the programmer that runs the algorithm that figures out how they can distribute all that stuff is is wild. And I I I guess we're Amazon degenerates because Megan has utilized that delivery window several times. It's great like the really there often oh yeah it's like because it it'll be like the like in and I think sometimes it's later than 2 p.m because there'll there'll be stuff that she'll find like something that the kids need or something and or something that that we don't have that we'll we'll need for like the next day and she'll find a version of it that has that four to eight a m shipping window and go ahead and order that and it's it's it when we wake up it's there at our front door in the morning and we and we have it for you know whatever I had no idea that was oh yeah. Yeah it's it's it's not it I I wouldn't say it's common um but there's it it's it's more often than you would think that they they have some type of uh service that'll get at your door at ungodly hours for God knows what reason.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah that's awesome. Um but yeah I mean the other the other what's good for anyone that travels especially if you travel with like family like going on vacation like having a travel router makes things so easy because then A all of your devices are just connected to one network you don't have to on demand. And it's your own private network which I think is beneficial itself on a public you know hotel Wi-Fi that you don't know what's what's what's coming and going on it. And you can VPN it you can have it all protected um and it worked like a charm. So it worked out really well. Yeah. The other kind of like semi what's good is that I think I mentioned it here and it's a couple weeks late now but I finally got to watch the Netflix special uh uh called Miracle the Boys of 80 about the 1980 men's hockey team um and I mean as you can imagine you know really really awesome well done documentary uh really cool footage of the games itself gave a good like historical aspect of like where the country was at that time it felt there was a lot of parallels to like this one as well but um you know just a lot of uncertainty the whole country as uh you know was kind of down uh gas prices were soaring they were going to a recession it was you know the whole Cold War was like at its peak about that time um as they were going into it and it was it was it was just really well done really cool story it was it the the the thing that struck me that as they're talking to all these guys you know because that's what 46 years ago that it happened like these guys are like for being heroes for being national heroes and you think these guys are like larger than life they all look like Paul's dad you know like they were just like they were just like college professors you know with just kind of like oversized jackets and glasses and just like the the most like atypical hockey player you could imagine where you think of hockey players big burly you know strong dudes that are just you know free flowing hair you know whatever and these guys were not they had the most old man dad energy ever that they were talking about you know and and and all these like videos are them because they were just kids at the time they weren't professionals it was just you know they all came from blue collar backgrounds so just these kids just crushing beers and playing hockey and their like postgame press conference where they're all at this table and they're answering questions they were just saying the most wild off the cuff stuff and then to see them now when they're in their you know 60s and it it just it was just such a dichotomy of like them when they were young and you know hard charges and partying and not caring about anything to now where there's these like established old dads that are just looking back on the good times uh was just really funny to see. I mean it happens to everyone it's just you you you know I think most of these names like Jim Craig Micah Rusioni herb uh Herb Brooks they're household names now but I don't think many people could pick them out of a crowd. Like if they walked by you you would there's no way that you would be able to recognize them. Like it took me a while I was like I know all these guys by name but not all these guys I know the big three essentially but I had no idea what they look like and then I saw them was like oh my god there's no way it's kind of like the perfect level of of fame uh is what it seems like because you're a national hero everyone knows your name but no one's bothering you right like you can live a normal life but if you told someone like hey I'm Micah Rusioni and have someone in in that generation that like lived through it like you would immediately be like that would be like a life changing moment for that person. Be like yeah yo I was at Starbucks and Micah Ruzioni was he he just ordered a coffee behind me and I talked him for a bit. You know like it's it's like it's like the perfect level of stardom that you can live your own life but if someone knows who you are it's like the biggest deal ever for them uh which is cool. Um it was just sad because that what's that is this documentary also based on like the thing that the movie was based on yeah so they're all about the same event uh just like the movie was just hey get actors and you know portray it you know in a different light this is just dramatic retell about yeah that's that's what I was just confirming because yeah yeah because the movie's called Miracle yep and this is Miracle the Boys of 80. Yeah um really just because that was Al Michael's call do you believe in miracles? Yes was like the famous line for those that don't know sorry I probably should have uh you know preferenced this off the top but 1980 Lake Placid uh US non-professional hockey players uh in the Olympics they didn't allow professionals but the way that Russia set it up was that they basically like listed their professionals hockey players professions as something different they would be like a farmer or a plumber so they basically had professionals in there and they steamrolled they had won every Olympic since 1960 so they were just the most dominant force in the world like nobody touched them ever. It was a done deal That they were getting a gold. Everyone else was just fighting for silver. USA was predicted to be like seventh to through twelfth. No one gave them a shot. They got through the knockout round. They went on to the medal round where they played the uh I keep calling them Russians, but the Soviet, Soviet Union, USSR in uh in the in the in the in the first round of the metal match, huge underdogs, three days before the Olympics, uh, they had beaten them like 10 to 3, like absolutely wiped the floor in an exhibition in Madison Square Garden. U.S. wound up winning. That was that's kind of like the moment where everything happened, uh, because that was like the big um overcoming uh of this like huge impossible thing. Um and then, but then the thing was is that that was the the first round that was gonna be still had to go on. Yeah, yeah. So then they played Finland in the gold medal match, wound up winning the gold medal. Um, yeah, and it was just you know, kids, non-professionals, uh just going out there and taking on this big giant of a USSR team uh that they wound up winning. Um so that's what it was about. It was really cool. The only kind of like bummer was that the whole documentary was about how much hope it it injected into the country. Like it, you know, everyone got by like they were like this was the biggest sporting event in the history of the country. The biggest. And everyone got behind it and it just restored everyone's faith. Um, that you know, that it felt like USA was kind of like the underdog right now with everything going bad, and now it's like, hey, man, we can do this, we can get through this. We all like it brought everyone together. Um, you know, even on the team itself, there were people from Boston, people from Michigan that that like hated each other, and then but then through this team, like they became like best friends and they're inseparable and all this sort of stuff. So it was it was just a lot of feelings of hope. And it was like, and then you parallel it to this one where it started out very much the same, but then within like 12 hours, it went back to being like divisive and fraction, and you know, it's like it it would be hard to find anyone that if you mentioned the 1980 men's hockey team, that they'd be like, Yeah, screw those guys, but I guarantee you there are a good number of people that now feel that way about our hockey team this year, which sucks, you know, because like it had the same sort of vibes, and then it just it just uh turned sour pretty quick, which kind of sucked. But it was good to see that. Uh highly recommend it if you guys are into it. I know it's after the Olympics now, but um still a good watch, I would say. Um all right, kind of long-winded on the what's good. Let's uh I think we're switching up, rolling into the this week in trivia. We might have a a switch up. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_02

This week in history.

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Someone else.

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And for this week, your host is gonna be me taking it over for this week. And we have a themed this week in history for for you boys, wanted to do it special. Celebrating the release of Project Hail Mary. We have a science and space themed this week in history. Boy. So okay. Uh, we got 10 questions here. Uh, so same same format as always, just keeping the train rolling from Sarav. So we'll jump into it, get started. Question one. In 1884, the first true long-distance phone call was completed between New York and this city. And what was the year? 1884.

SPEAKER_03

I think I know this one. I think I've seen it, so it's not as much a guess.

SPEAKER_02

I'll let I'll let Sarav guess.

SPEAKER_00

Um I was gonna go, I'm gonna go to San Francisco. I think it's Boston.

SPEAKER_02

Brennan is correct. It is Boston. Where I actually think the whole like telephone research started because the first long distance phone call was actually between Salem and Boston, but that's like 15 miles. So the first true long distance happened this week in 1884, and it was between New York and Boston. Where did you see that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I read it how come what somewhat recently because I was surprised at how close it was. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Uh all right. Question two. This artificial organ was first implanted in a patient this week in 1983. You say artificial? The first artificial version of this organ was implanted into a patient in 1983. Eyeball. No, it seems too late.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna go I'll go with a lung. I was gonna go gallbladder.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, good guesses. Both are incorrect. It was an artificial heart in 1983. Really? The first artificial heart was implanted uh in a patient way back in 1983 this week. I didn't even know that was a thing. Is the end of the story that she died? Uh a hundred and uh 112 year days later, uh, died. So bought an extra, I don't know, what would you call that? Almost four months uh before kicking the can.

SPEAKER_00

I'm weirdly surprised. I'm weirdly surprised that back then we had the technology to keep someone even alive for four months. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, we'd call it a success. I I don't know, man. Back in 1983. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, to Brendan's question, I was thinking like obviously we're talking about like I mean pacemakers, I guess, kind of work. Is that right?

SPEAKER_03

I don't think a pacemaker would think of artificial heart.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like you're no I think I think a pacemaker more is is trying to regulate what's already there. This was like an artificial organ. Interesting. Um that worked for just a little bit.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_02

Uh all right. Question three. This term first entered the vernacular in Berlin in 1929, sparking early conversations around AI.

SPEAKER_03

Repeat it again.

SPEAKER_02

This term first entered the vernacular, so first entered the category the vocabulary of the world in Berlin in 1929, and it sparked early conversations around artificial intelligence. It's the first recorded time that this this word was used.

SPEAKER_03

Man, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02

Very common word now.

SPEAKER_03

Machine learning.

SPEAKER_02

Good guess. I'm gonna go robot. Sarav nailed it. Robot first entered parlance in 1929 from a play in Berlin called Rossom's Universal Robotics.

SPEAKER_00

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02

Don't know how he came up with that.

SPEAKER_00

I I was thinking I was literally gonna start with the term thinking machines because that was like an old like sci-fi term, which means it may have been in the vernacular decades before. But then I was like, but it's Germany. And for Germany, that's why I was like, no, it's gotta be robot. That that sounds like a word they would come up with.

SPEAKER_02

Uh all right. We'll go on to uh question four, and now we'll get into more of the uh the space section. So uh NASA's Mariner 10 became the first vehicle to reach this planet in 1974. First time we had a vehicle reach this planet in our solar system, 1974. I guess I'm gonna go with Mars.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I'm just gonna go Venus for fun.

SPEAKER_02

So it did go to Venus, but we had been to Venus before. The first time we visited uh Mercury was in 1974 from NASA's Mariner 10. And it actually stopped in Venus and then went to Mercury, and uh it was the first the first spacecraft to visit two planets. I don't I don't know when when we made it to Mars.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because when was the moon was that '62?

SPEAKER_02

The moon the moon landing was sixty-nine.

SPEAKER_03

Nine? And what year is this?

SPEAKER_02

1969. 74. 74. 74.

SPEAKER_03

So within five minutes.

SPEAKER_02

But this was unmanned. Like this was this was just a spacecraft.

SPEAKER_00

But this was also very much we've never been. The space the space race was going so hard though. Yeah. It was going so hard.

SPEAKER_03

We're not progressing that fast now, but I actually believe. In my head, I'm thinking of um uh the movie with the women. You know what I'm talking about. Uh Hidden Figures. What was it called? Hidden Figures. Thank you. Um and I see, anyways, hidden figures. And I think about all the, you know, all the math and computations that went in to like get the trajectory right and the launch to be able to so like you know, I understand that was manned, but still that within five years, now that we kind of like we were like, okay, cool, Mars check, Venus check, Mercury. Like, that seems crazy that it expanded that quickly, you know. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Space space was a real thing. I think the reason I'm exposed so much to it is like at work, everyone's trying to compare like what's happening now to like that. That was the closest time in history we were ever for the advancement of technology. For like like really invested in such a collective way in pushing like a new thing, and then I don't know what happened. So curious.

SPEAKER_02

Uh all right. Question five. This element was first discovered in on Earth. So the first time that we've found this element on Earth in 1895, delighting clowns everywhere.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna go helium. Helium, yeah. That's right.

SPEAKER_02

Helium.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Helium was first was first found on Earth in 1895, this week in history. Question six. The oldest picture of this celestial body was taken in 1840.

SPEAKER_00

One more time.

SPEAKER_02

The oldest picture of this celestial body was taken in 1840.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I'm gonna go to the sun.

SPEAKER_02

Would you say the Milky Way, Brendan? With with the Milky Way. Don't think we were quite there yet in zooming out a look at the galaxy. But we did get a picture of the moon. The oldest picture of the moon is from 1840. Actually, the oldest picture that was taken of the moon was in 1839, but someone let that burn up. So the next oldest picture was then taken a year later in 1840. The Milky Way, you can just look up and see it when it's a really clear night, you know? Yeah, but do you and then do you just take a picture of it? I don't know. And it was some kind of it's like a durograph or something that this took a picture of. I I have no idea. I don't know what they were using for cameras in 1840.

SPEAKER_00

There's that long thing that they like stretch out and then there's like a wire, and then the thing they squeeze. Yeah, yeah. To hit it.

SPEAKER_02

Uh what I'm envisioning, you know, all those portraits that they did of like the Civil War guys where they all look like they hate their lives. I'm just picturing like somebody tried that at night. I was like, oh shit, I can't see shit for you know Frederick over there. But there's that moon that's there.

SPEAKER_01

Up in the background.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, like, you can just take a picture of like darkness and be like, dude, trust me, bro. Moon. It was there. We don't have the technology to get it, but like, trust me, man, it was there.

SPEAKER_01

That's it.

SPEAKER_02

All right. Moving on, question seven. This country launched the first lunar satellite in 1966. The first lunar satellite launched this week in 1966.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just gonna, I'm gonna go the USSR, Russia. Yeah, Soviets.

SPEAKER_02

Correct. The Soviets beat us to getting a lunar satellite. Uh, but then three years later, we kicked their ass by being the first manned moon mission in Apollo 11. That's how I knew when the moon landing happened. Yeah. Also came up in the research here.

SPEAKER_04

Got it.

SPEAKER_02

Uh question eight. SpaceX. This is actually it's this week in history because it happened this week. SpaceX launched additional satellites into space this week. And that brings their total satellites orbiting Earth to how many?

SPEAKER_03

It's like, I don't know. It's an insane, like 150,000, something like that. Might even be more than that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm gonna go 250,000. You guys guess way higher than I would have thought. It's over 10,000, which to me is is is a lot of satellites to be out there orbiting. Yeah. Like if you you think about like shit going around the uh around the earth. Um but yeah, I thought they were over 10,000.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's the same. I and I know that like we're we're seemingly nowhere near being scared about space debris. Uh so I thought they were just like loading them up up there.

SPEAKER_02

Uh question nine. Over 13,500 people from this country in 1990 reported seeing two triangular UFOs, making it the largest mass reported UFO sighting on record.

SPEAKER_03

Say the beginning part again.

SPEAKER_02

Over 13,500 people from this country reported seeing triangular UFOs, two triangular UFOs in the sky. Looking at the mass. No, this was 1990.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, because this just happened Saturday Night Live just did a uh it was on the weekend update a couple weeks ago about it. Uh so you look for a country.

SPEAKER_02

It's a yes, a European country. Uh we'll narrow it down.

SPEAKER_00

Norway. I'm gonna go the UK.

SPEAKER_02

It's a great guess. I thought it would have been somewhere in Nordic, too, but it's actually in Belgium. Uh Belgian, they it came up on their radar and they sent two F-6 F-16 fighter jets to like go corral whatever it is that came up on the radar. They saw this like triangle of shit that they had no idea what happened, and apparently it accelerated to like 1700 miles an hour in like the blink of an eye, and they lost them and had no idea what they were. Um interesting because Belgian, the Belgian government actually released the radar scans to the public and was like very open about the investigation into this. And they were like like tagging the UK to help them like say, hey guys, what the hell happened here? Uh they and then they were like, you know what, they weren't trying to shoot anything or kill us, so we're just gonna drop it. And they just ended up dropping it. Man. So that's cool.

SPEAKER_00

I I'm surprised there's a UFO moment with this much data that I'd never heard of.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And that and that I I'm getting back to kind of the conversation that we had a few weeks ago, I find it very hard to believe that they just would have dropped that investigation and not seen anything when they had 13,500 people, an estimated 13,500 people that actually reported this.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's kind of nuts.

SPEAKER_02

Nuts. Especially since they were so open with it in the beginning in terms of like sharing the radar scans and stuff. Uh all right. Question 10. Last and not least, the final test flight of Russia's Sputnik rockets landed and was recovered in 1961. The flight was unmanned, but carried this animal.

SPEAKER_03

Monkey.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna go a dog. Sarov's got it. It was a dog. I think that I think the US sent monkeys up, but for some reason the the USSR used dogs. And that's where, I don't know, uh, in the is it Guardians of the Galaxy, uh, Cosmo, the like the Russian space dog that's on on Planet Nowhere.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I guess the space Russian space dogs are a real thing, which I had no idea.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Nice. That's kind of nuts.

SPEAKER_02

So that was uh that's our our space and science this week in history.

SPEAKER_03

Dude, thank you for uh thank you for pinch hitting, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, happy to do it. Awesome. Nice. I think that's uh I think that's good that covers this week in history and trivia portion. I think that's I think I'll I'll hold off on the trivia one until until uh next week that that that works out. Nice. All right, uh just a couple other a couple uh random things that I wanted to mention. Um Megan is uh she has a goal, stuff that she wants to work on. Uh she set that and she and the way that she's doing it is that she's using uh Weight Watchers to do it. And it's her second time uh using it. And it's and uh the funniest thing about it because the way that weight what that Weight Watchers works is that you basically track exactly what you're eating, um, their system allocates a certain number of points. Yep, so it's a point system. So you get a certain number of points per day, and then everything that you eat has to stay under that point. So uh it's a very good system that like you can basically scan the barcode of what you're of whatever you're having, and it will download all the information about it, and it'll tell you how many points per servings, and you can adjust how many servings it is. Um if it's if it's not something you you know, you basically just put in the generic category of it and you can select different options for whatever you're eating. Um so it's very, very detailed so that you have a good idea as to how many points you are. And there've been a lot of people that may get to talk to and be like, yeah, like people have lost like tons of weight doing this. It's you know, it seems to be very effective if you keep to it. The toughest thing about it is keeping to it because you very quickly realize how the things that you think are healthy that you're doing a good job on are not healthy at all. Um, and so it's a the types of food that you're eating is not good, and then B, the portions that you're eating are way more than you should be eating. So uh she's trying to get at least a at least a few months out of it. Uh you know, the the best would be to make it a year, but she's like, there's no way I can make it a year. She's like, this is this is so hard. And the toughest thing about it is that when you're in a family and you're the only one doing it, it makes it very difficult because you because you still have to because if the rest of the family isn't on it, they're eating all this other types of food that you're around all the time. If you're by yourself doing your own thing where you can basically be in charge of what you're buying and it fits in this certain plan, it's probably more manageable. I wouldn't say easy, but it's manageable. When you're with a family, it makes it a little bit uh more difficult. Um but so I remember like the last time that she did it, you know, fruits and vegetables are something that's just zero points, right? So you just have like a fit, you know, infinite amount of that stuff and you're still fine. So it was always the joke that she'd come back with a whole bunch of fruit. And I would just be like, I when there's fruit that's available, I will just devour fruit. She cannot, she knows that she can't leave fruit out. If she's like washing fruit, then she has it out there to like dry, it will be gone if she doesn't say anything about it. Like I will just I will destroy fruit if it's just out there. And that was always the joke because she'd be like, Brendan, how did you eat this many blueberries? I'm like, it's zero points. It's literally free. I'm fine. I'm being healthy by eating all this. Um, so now she's starting it again. She's looking at all these points, and she's like, man, you know, like I've got like 29 points in the day. Like it's so hard to get under that for three meals of the day. Like, it's so tough. Like, I'm basically eating like, you know, half a cup of like yogurt and some granola, and that's my whole breakfast. And, you know, I'm eating, you know, she was trying to like figure out she was doing like a like a taco salad where she had the lettuce, but then like the taco meat uh itself was you know, a bunch of points, and you add like the seasoning on top of it, like the taco seasoning, and it was just like you know, she could have like basically like a little palmful of meat is how much you could have on it. Um, but like part of it is that uh, you know, really surprising. It's surprising the stuff that's zero points. All like a lot of meat is zero points. So like rotisserie chicken, no points. So I'm like, I'm like, you could just have five rotisserie chickens and like you're good losing losing weight. Because a rotisserie chicken is nothing. I'm like, there's gotta be some flaw in this. There's no serving size or anything associated with it. You can just you can literally make it five rotisserie chickens and it's zero points. I'm like, that doesn't seem like yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Uh but so anyway, so I was looking at regular chicken makes sense. Like just like like a chicken breast makes sense to be none. Yeah, grilled chicken makes a lot of sense. Rotisserie chicken. Rotisserie chicken. That's different.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I feel I feel like there's probably some oils that are layered on there.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but I was like, so I eat cookies and milk every night, and I drink a lot of milk. I'm like, I'm just interested. Like, what how many points how many points like per cookie am I having per night? Yeah, because I'm interested in what that is related to her daily limit. And she put in her whole recipe divided out by how many cookies it was. And just at night with the two cookies and milk, it was like 62 points.

SPEAKER_01

So I had two days worth I eat two days worth of her meals in just a dessert before I go to bed. Oh my god, dude. Like 62 is crazy. Is that with the milk daily points?

SPEAKER_03

That's with the milk. That's what you call it. Uh and yeah, like my daily points is probably absurd on this app. Uh, so I'm just like, you know, sometimes you just gotta live your life, you know? I know what I am, I know what I'm about. I don't need these points. I respect you for doing this. It's really, it's you know, it's awesome if you're able to do it. But I but just seeing that the just that one little part of food for me in one day was two days worth of her entire of her entire uh plan. Um so it's just it's just funny going through it. We always wonder, like I have a non-Parel, like I love dark chocolate non-parells. Uh-huh. And I usually have one after I like eat dinner. I'll just get like a little piece of chocolate. Uh, one of those things is seven points. Like that. So like so like she can have four four of those, and that would be her entire day.

SPEAKER_01

Like, like intake for the day is four non non-parell chocolates.

SPEAKER_03

That's crazy. Um, yeah, so it's just interesting going through it and uh you know seeing her suffer through it. But it's good. She set the goal. Hopefully, it gets her to where she needs to. Um that's good. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02

Meg Megan's Megan's started doing the same thing with the point tracking. So if she wants to, if she wants to hit her up for some recipes, Megan uses like a lot of cottage cheese and and yogurt stuff. That is like the zero point stuff.

SPEAKER_03

And like I think that this is where the beauty of AI stuff helps is that it's like all the stuff is in there. You could talk to AI and be like, hey, I need I need like six recipes for breakfast that I can just like go to, you know, because like I think that's the toughest part is like trying to figure out what you can and can't eat because you have to like put it in the app every time and adjust it and whatnot. And when you're just hungry and want to eat, like that makes it difficult. So I think just having a plan where it's like, hey, just give me like six go-to things that I know that I can hit up anytime makes it a little bit easier. Um let's see, the other thing I was thinking of is how how good do you think your radar is on judging people? A kind of like two parts that I was thinking about it. Like, how how quick are you to make a judgment on someone? And the second part is how accurate is that judgment?

SPEAKER_00

I know it's a very broad strokes question, but are you saying like make a judgment because it's very different, right? It would be very different from like if you're just walking into a store and caught someone in no scene. I guess I'll give you someone you might have to.

SPEAKER_03

I guess I'll I'll I'll like give you my train of thought on it because I meet a bunch of new people in a very uh intimate situation. Scenario for lack of a better word. Like it's me and this person for for hours at a time, right? Where like you like you're there with them. Uh, and then when you get to a place, are you going and getting meals with them? You're back in the plane for, you know, 20, 25 hours over a three or four day stretch. Like, that's a good amount of time. Just you and this other person. And some persons you probably never met before. So I'm in these very I'm in these situations where I'm meeting someone and having to spend prolonged periods of time uh with them. And I think going back, uh, I think I kind of like touched on it last week as well with my um, like what are you most proud of? And it kind of goes into that that I like I have a lot of like conviction about stuff and I can like make up a decision. And I found that with people, I make that decision very quickly in my head, whether that's right or wrong. But like I can get a vibe from someone and like within the first couple things that we're talking about, I can already tell if they're like my type of if they're if if I'm on the same wavelength uh as them. What you know, differences being that like, hey, like if we just like don't have anything in common, I can tell that like right away, be like, oh man, this is gonna be tough because we just you know, we're just into different things. Um, you know, he's an outdoorsy person that loves going hiking and you know and hunting and all this sort of stuff. And I'm like, I'm an indoor person, I like I like watching sports and you know, playing video games or whatever. Like, it can just tell that it's like okay, cool, it's not matching up. And then like the other type of person I can make a snap is like I can tell when they're nice to me, but are an asshole.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like it's very clear, like uh that part comes out so quick when it's like, cool, like we're cool, we can get along, like we're on the same lifelink about like pilot stuff and like doing our professional thing up here. But I can tell by the way that you're talking that like you're not a good person to hang around with. You know what I mean? And it's like their interactions with all the other people, like flight attendants, gate agents, customer, you know, people that just try to like avoid everyone, and like whenever something happens, they're just like talking shit about other people for no reason. Uh so so those are the things I think about. And I'm like, man, like I wonder if other people like because like and it's pretty like consistent, like once I make that that that like judgment on someone, it's like I've found that I it's pretty consistent that there's not many times I'm like, oh man, I thought this guy was kind of an asshole, but he turned out to be great. It's like, no, this guy was an asshole, and he was like kind of an asshole the whole way through. So I just wonder how many like instances you have about that, if you're like conscious of that, of what of you you know making judgments on people and how accurate your judgments are.

SPEAKER_00

So as you were talking, I was kind of analyzing, and it was definitely something I've never thought about or I've it's something I've never realized this way. But I don't think I do the same thing you do in like my judgment is not about like what I think of them or like what like just it's like do I want to be friends with them or not? It's like those things aren't in my brain. My immediate judgment is within like a few moments of talking, I'm just like, can I crack the code with you? Like, can I figure out exactly how what I need to be saying and how I need to be talking to like get you to be in a good wavelength with me, just in I don't know if that's a people pleasing thing, if that's like a practice thing from like work and business. Um, but that is my mode. Um, I don't know that I think it takes me a long time or it takes me very specific social settings for me to actually think about a person deeply uh off of that first impression because I just only care if I think you're gonna be a part of my life, even if it's in a small way. Uh but otherwise I just don't think about people that way.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's very interesting that you mentioned that about like cracking the code about how you're gonna work with them because when we did our indoc, that's that's like exactly the direction that they took in one in one portion of this in doc. Have you guys ever heard of the disc model? Yeah, the personality thing. Yep, yep. So it's it's essentially a personality um model, and it's uh disk is dominant, influential, compliant, or steady. And so essentially you can be in somewhere on this essentially Venn diagram of all four of these, and you fit either all into one category or you're a combination of a little bit. And so we're all somewhere on this, and understanding okay, hey, this person seems like they're more in the dominant category. So then me, knowing my personality, this is how we can work together, right? Kind of like how what you were talking about with um the rehearsal that went viral, and it was talking about, and that was a big revelation for people that they were like, oh my God, the pilots might have never met each other before they just got in the plane and now they're flying us around. That's very common for us, and it's this type of stuff is like, hey, we're all different personalities. The goal is that we have to be safe up in the flight deck, and you have to learn, you know, you have to learn how to work with each other. So these are the techniques. So very similar to what you were talking about, which is the right way of like handling it. Um, you know, it's like, hey, figuring out, hey, what is this person about? What am I about? What do we need to do to bridge the gap here? Um, so I think in a professional environment, that's exactly it. Uh, I think it's like just like I think that where my mind is is just more on like the unprofessional, not unprofessional, but outside of the workplace thing. Like there, like we had a neighbor where we used to previously live. Um, and uh and they were right across the street from us. We were around them, and I just I got bad vibes, like right off the bat. It was just like, just did not jive with me, just something was off. And Megan was always like, Brendan, like you can't, like, it's very obvious that you're very like standoffish uh with this person. I'm like, yeah, like I I just you know, if it's a person that like I don't I I don't agree with, I don't think they're a good person, like I'm not I I'm bad at faking things in those instances. Uh right. And then there was an instant, an instance later on where it was um where like you could tell that her relationship there was very transactional. It was like, hey, you're part of my life because like I'm gonna need stuff from you in the future. And that came out, and it was just it was icky. Uh and I was like, Megan, this is exactly like what I was like picking up on. Like these types of people, like I just don't need like I'm not gonna fake it, I'm not gonna go out of my way. Like, I'm fine just being like, hey, look, look, we're not on the same page. Like, you do your thing, I'll do mine, it's fine. Like, we'll just be off on our own. And it and it kind of bothers Megan because Megan's a people uh pleaser, you know, she wants to be on everyone's good graces, she doesn't want anyone to like not like her. Whereas for me, like if I'm if there's a person that I don't think is a good person, I'm very okay with us with me not going out of my way to interact with that person. Um, if that makes sense. So it does.

SPEAKER_00

I think even as you were talking, I was thinking, like, I think your your threshold is just lower, probably. Like, as you were describing me, but I'm like, oh, well, I feel like I noticed that, but I probably maybe notice that in people when their personalities are especially spiky on like my scale, where I'm like, oh, that sticks out as like you're in you're you're definitely an asshole. But maybe like you're able to read into like subtler exchanges or vibes. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I don't even know what it what it is. I like I can just like within the first like conversation that I have with that person, it's like in my mind, it's like I just go off of vibes, you know. And I said that before, it's like if the vibes are off, it's like there's something there, and I just trust my gut with it. And fortunately, it's been it's been accurate so far, but I'm sure there's you know times that it's gonna bite me for sure.

SPEAKER_00

I was just gonna say it's like, yeah, and the the the rock that Adrian got me gets really hot. The rock that Adrian got you? No, the like if you had a rock that you got from Adrian that got really warm when this was going out. You sound very vibes and woo-woo. That's what I got. I got you.

SPEAKER_04

Does nobody remember when he was trying to give us all porn?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. It took me a while to get there. Okay. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00

My head was my head was already there. I'm like imagining you going on this diatribe ballot, it's all vibes. And then also there's this rock that warns me.

SPEAKER_02

Anyway. I don't know. I feel like in in in those situations, it's when you're in whether it's, you know, you're with in sitting with the pilot, you guys are talking, or you know, you're getting together with a group of like neighborhood families or whatever. It is, I think it is a parent who you can tell like the people that you're I don't know what I guess it's a vibes thing. I don't know if it's it's a way that they talk or or just the way that they interact with other people. It's probably more that of the way that they're like looking at and talking to the people around them that you can tell whether they are somebody that you would be friends with like in a like other situation, like in a vacuum. Like, yes, we are somebody who are like aligned in the way that we treat and interact with other people when we are are here. And I don't know, and I think it's also different depending on uh depending on the person and how like outgoing or how like interactive they are, because then it's easier to get a read on them. With someone who's a little bit more reserved, it might be, at least for me, harder to like make that judgment call. But I feel like if you're in a setting and people are talking to each other, it is pretty apparent, you know, how how how they go about those types of situations and and how they're being social and how they're they're talking at her or how they they look at other people. And I I don't know that that's uh usually wrong, just because you know, you're seeing it in that setting. So you're you're making these like you're not making snap judgments, you're making observations based on like what they're actually doing. So if they if they're they're you know treating other people kind of like an asshole and you're gonna think that they're asshole, they probably are an asshole, unless you got somebody who's like just maybe had a bad day. But I feel like you can usually tell when somebody's like having an off day too, like when you're when somebody's just like seems to be more irritable and you you don't think that that's you don't get the vibe that that's like how they usually are. I think even that is usually kind of a parent too. So uh I do I do think those types of of situations uh and and when you're getting that read on somebody, it's it's it's fairly quick uh and and also fairly accurate for the most part. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

In general.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I just thought it was Yeah. I just thought it was interesting. It was like a self-reflection moment. I'm like, man, like I make these judgments pretty quickly. I I wonder if other people but I think you're right that like the bar is just lower for me. That like that once that decision's made, it's like, all right, cool, we're done here.

SPEAKER_00

I also think context matters. Because even when Brandon was kind of making the point about context, I was like, you know what? There is a place that I my baseline is lower, and that's in the coffee shop I walk into every morning. It's the one place that I'm actually like having to pause and I'm watching the people around me in an environment that I repeat so regularly that maybe I'm like more used to the people watching there. So I am kind of like, oh, this person's like really bougie and like annoying, or this person's you know wearing their sunglasses and it's like dark out. Um but weird thought for you is like you're traveling all the time. The w the world is your repeatable environment for like meeting new people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think that's what's so tough about it is that it's like you know, yeah, you're you're you're now with that person, just you and them for 20 hours. You know, it's like all right, good luck.

SPEAKER_02

And I think I think like in that, in a vacuum, it does like it's obviously not a natural situation, and it probably does like there's probably more dimensions to them than you're getting to see, but I think you are getting like a very distilled experience of that person. Like you know what I mean? Like if you're you're trapped in a tin can flying with just this other person to talk to for however long you are, like I feel like you'll get to know them pretty quickly. Um, the all all that stuff will will come out in the wash based on you know, uh if you think you're you're gonna be able to buy with that person or not. I I can totally see you getting a quick read on that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like I think you know, someone uh that's like a very common way of like of analyzing how a person is is how they treat people that are less than, you know, people that you perceive are not on the same level. And uh yeah, like the you know, there's an instance where we like, you know, we have transportation to and from the the airport to the hotel, and uh, you know, the guy was uh took our bags and was loading them up in the trunk, and we got into the van. And like the cabin's like, man, he's got the air conditioning on. And it's 50 degrees now. Like, do people not even think? I was like, oh geez, that's really aggressive. And then like the guy comes into the van, he's like, hey guys, is the temperature all right back there? You just tell me whoever you want. It's like, yo, that's what he was like, you know, like he wasn't it was not a conscious thing at all to be an asshole, but this guy just like ripped him apart for no reason. Like, man, do people even think about this? It's like, okay, well, you're kind of an asshole. Like, it's a weird thing to just be just be a jerk about. All right, I know we're I know the type of person you are now, and uh and that's that. Um all right, cool. Uh let's let's go into the question of the week. This is more of a uh this is more I'm I'm I'm interested to see where this goes. Um kind of a lighthearted one uh for it. So the question is what is the first album or CD that you owned, and does it still hold up? So Survivor saw you nodding along. You want to uh start us off?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. So just to give you guys context, not that people listening need my backstory. Grant obviously moved here, uh, seven, eight years old. Um, it was like 1999 or 2000, Christmas, uh, when at that point I'd finally had a uh a Walkman, and uh my parents got me for Christmas both like a Walkman and then CDs to put it in, and it was like the Britney Spears album, like the one with Lucky on it and like some other songs. Yeah, uh and I got um In Sync Celebrity. So got those two CDs. I just remember being like listening to them, but it it was not my choice, but uh it was what everyone was listening to, so I loved it. Uh so when I finally, I think it was like 2001 or two, um, got my parents to agree to like let me go to FYE and buy me an album that I really wanted to listen to. It was the Marshall Mathers LP.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

This it was MM highest selling artist of the 2000 to 2009 decade. Wow, as we as we as we know. Uh yeah, but yeah, it was it was the Marshall Mathers LP. And I think if you think of it, it's it it is kind of like kind of twisted comedy in that the real Slim Shady um was such a like kid friendly song, not that it is, but like in the sound of it, if you think about it, like my kids love that song. Exactly, right? Like, I was just like, this is funny, he's wacky, he's like, you know, crazy. And to listen to this album that is like not that it's got one song that's like fun, and like the rest of it is dark, and there was there's a song with the Kim song where he like murders her, you know, you're just you're just for like a kid who was in, I want to say like fifth grade listening to that, sixth grade, I was just like, oh my god, like this is crazy. But it's it it was my first experience with I think like art as like a thing that's not just I don't know, it just you it forced you to it forced me to like expand my view and like recognize other experiences exist at a very young age in a way that I still appreciated. It didn't need to be like just entertaining or resonate. I was just like, okay, these weird songs are like growing on me. Um, so yeah, I don't know. It's I it and it does hold up to me. I think it's a it's a real work of like, you know, just a crazy level of expression about a very specific person's life um at that moment in time. Like it's it's incredible.

SPEAKER_03

What was it that uh what was it that drew you to that album? Was it just the popularity of it that you do, like was there something about it that you knew that you wanted to get?

SPEAKER_00

No, no, it was just uh the real Slim Shady. I'm telling you, it was a very simple. You're kind of like, I like this song, I like this guy, and I want more. And uh it is kind of weird. I wonder if like I would have maybe liked him less had it just been what I thought it was gonna be or wanted it to be, instead of it being like a very dark, expressive storytelling from you know someone who I didn't really relate to. But you know, eventually also like it was very nice in like the I hate your mom stuff, like that great great music for people who have those feelings at times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But but but for the most part, it was just like I don't know, I just got really into it. So you still enjoyed the album, even though it was something totally different than what you expected. I go back and listen to it all the time still. It is like an objectively really, really good album. Uh it might be his best. I feel like my personal favorite is still the Eminem show. I I think that was just like on another level um of like him just peaking commercially and also well, commercially in the sense of like everyone is listening at that point. Um, but yeah, I think the Marshall Mathers LP is like an incredible, timeless kind of uh album that I will be going back to forever. Like it's it's that good. Nice.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, branded. Um so it sounds like I'm just trying to be cool and be like Sarav, but the first album that I actually bought was the Marshall Mathers LP from the FYE at the Carbone County Mall.

SPEAKER_01

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Let's go. It was because and like my my parents would like me at Columbia House or Columbia Records, whatever it was, like where they would like you had like the little magazine and it was like a membership and you could like pick X amount of like CDs a month that they would like send you. I don't I don't know how they got that or why they got that or what was involved with that. All I know is that we would every and I don't even know if it was monthly or if it was quarterly. I don't know what it was. I just know that we would have this like this this brochure that came in and we could have to go through and could pick out this like whatever like things we wanted and then that we would get however many came. That's how I knew of us getting CDs like when I was younger. So there's a bunch of albums that came that I like that I like picked, but it was all like Tom Petty or like the Wallflowers or like Aerosmith, like stuff that my parents wanted to listen to anyway, and that they were getting, which were all like like there were CDs that came that I I I would listen to, but they were like they were the families. The first one that I got was going into into FYE and and picking up the Marshall Myers LP um and listening to like the skits and everything on there. It was like it was like a very different, very different kind of album than I had, again, given what we were coming from, very different album from anything that I had listened to at that point. But I mean, obviously, like like we we watched M MTV a bunch. So we had seen the Real Some Shady and all the music videos and like MM there, and like he was very much like the popular thing in school to like like that people were were getting into, especially since he was older and edgy, and it was like this rap. Because I don't know, we were what 11, 10, 12, something around that point. And like at FYE, like you had to be like 13 to buy your your explicit CD or whatever it was, but like we always got it anyway. Um but yeah, I mean it's it it's a classic. It absolutely holds up. It's the best-selling uh rap album or album, I guess, there for a reason. Um I I will maintain no matter what, I think the MM is the best rapper that has has lived. Um he's he's my personal favorite. Um I think even his like uh his recent stuff, like the The Death of Slim Shady, uh, I thought was a phenomenal album. It came out like what, two years ago now. I listened to that for like an entire summer when it when it came out because I thought it was really good. And I I just uh I think Slim is What was that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I was just gonna say that album kind of freaked me out because I'm like, how did he make himself sound like he did like Slim Shady? Yeah, he was like played the Slim Shady. He's it I I just think the go back and dig up like Yeah, but like it sounded exactly like his younger self. And I was like, was AI involved? Was something that was used to like genuinely capture the way he his like voice used to be? It was it was eerie, but yeah, great artist, great album.

SPEAKER_02

Great artist, great album. So that was the first album. Kind of the more interesting one. The first CD that I got is different because I was really big into getting like the singles on the the Okay. They were like the, I don't know, they were like you could get them for like three to five dollars. So they were like like way cheaper things, but it was like it was like like whenever a song would come out, they would release the single and it came like the little slip case, and you could get it. It was literally a CD that had like the main hit that was released on the radio and then like two other songs. Um, the first CD that I bought was When the Lights Go Out by the boy band five. Does it still hold up? No, no, it does not. I I would I would I would say go go ahead and and get give a give a little uh a Google for baby. I don't think it's I'm sure if you heard it, you would know the song. Baby When the Lights Go Out. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was it it was it was hot for a minute there. Uh it was definitely a one-hit wonder. I don't even know if they ever released an album. I don't and I don't remember why I got the single. I don't know if it played like it played like at the bowling alley or maybe at like the skating rink. And it was like, I was like, man, I'm this is my jam. And then I saw it at FYE and I was like, I'm gonna go buy this because I got five out. So it was like it was like my big, my, my big purchase that I did for myself. And I listened to it a bunch. Uh and then it got lost, and I never listened to it again, never thought about it again until this question.

SPEAKER_03

Man, that's cool. You uh total tangent, but uh you mentioned a skating rink, and Megan took the kids to a skating rink the other day, and like in my head, skating rinks are like awesome. Yeah. You know, like do you remember like skating rinks where it was like you know, like where you would go there like Friday night or whatever, and they had like an arcade, and then they had like the big rink that was like a wood floor, and like the lights would be out, and then they would have like the strobe lights or whatever going and they'd be playing awesome music, and then you'd go there with like your friends, and and then yeah, yeah, then they and then they had the couple skate, it was like such an experience. And so I was away on this trip, and Megan took them to the skating rink, and like in my head, I was like, oh man, that's gonna be awesome! Like, I wish I was there. And then she sent me pictures. I'm like, hold on, what's going on here? And it was like it was this very sterile, like warehouse looking place with just like white walls and that like blue, you know, that that like blue like plastic floor, you know what I'm talking about? Like steps, like steps together. Really? And you skate on that? It's very like random type of material. I guess so. But it was just like all the lights were on, it was really bright, and it was just like a big like open floor area that people were skating on. And it just like broke my brain for a second because my head immediately went to like skater rinks that we grew up with. Did it still have walls? Was it still like an oval like encased in walls? No, uh-uh. It wasn't an oval. I don't think I have to like I have to get Megan out here to like fully explain it. Man, uh but yeah, it was just complete departure from what I had as this like magical place in my head of where we had like such good like memories and instances. Uh you just mentioned the skater ink, and I uh and that uh piqued my interest.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, man. And the uh and asked Megan about Skate 2000 uh and the the the DJ that they had that there was always always pumping jams. That was uh that that was a fun place to do.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like that was the thing of of these skate, you know, they always had the jams going. It was awesome. Um all right, so my my first album uh was actually the Marshall Mathers LP. That wasn't. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00

Um it could have been you could have been just being honest and we would have been like, uh-huh. I know, exactly. Yeah, you guys didn't react at all.

SPEAKER_03

You're like, okay, cool, yeah, tell us your story. I think that's like welcome to the club. Yeah, good, yeah. Um no, mine mine was mine was Big Willie style.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I had that one too. This was a fantastic album.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I distinctly remember it because as you all know, I grew up with a very strict set of rules in the household. So when it came time to getting my first cassette tape, uh, my parents were very involved in that where I was super excited. I don't even know, I can't even like recall why I wanted that album. Um it must have been something that you know people were talking about at school and you know, we're singing songs, whatever it was. But um But I remember like I was really excited to go buy it and I bought it, and then before I got to listen to it, my parents had to listen to it all the way through to make sure that it was appropriate for me to listen to. This is when I was in this is incredible. I pictured Bill jamming out the some big Willie.

SPEAKER_00

I have a story I have to tag on to this, but after you're done.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Also because my parents, I realize that I miss out on a lot of the big stuff from like our like 80s, 90s, the people that our generation that we look back on as like classics and things that shape them in terms of like music and movies. I did not like all the old school school style music and movies of like the 80s, 90s, you know, and and like earlier, my parents just didn't listen to that music or watch those movies. So that's why like the common joke is that like I haven't seen movies before 2000. You know, all like the old like Godfather, Scarface, Top Gun, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future, like all those old school ones I had never seen because my parents just didn't experience that sort of stuff, and they didn't they weren't big music listeners. They listened to Book on Tape in the car. My mom listened to Laura Schlesinger uh on the radio and her like you know helping people, she was a psychiatrist that helped people through stuff. Um so like that's what I grew up listening to. Listen to Delilah? Come on, yeah, and Delilah. Exactly. Um so just knowing that it makes it even funnier thinking that my mom and dad were listening to Big Wheelie style. That they must have been like, what the hell is this? Oh my god. Um so they had to like make sure that it was appropriate for me to listen to, uh, which I guess eventually they did. And and I mean, and just like you were gonna say, man, hell yeah, that album still holds up. Oh yeah. You go back and listen to Getting Jiggy with It, Miami, Men in Black was on there, just the two of us, like man, Will Smith, he was he was peaking with Fresh Prince of Bel Air and his music career. And uh I even like that that song switch that he came out with. That was that was so good. Um, so that was that was my first album, and uh yeah, that my parents had to censor it for uh and make sure that it was good to go. Uh I don't think you cursed, so you were good.

SPEAKER_01

Will Smith does have a curse on his rapture sound records. But I do. So fuck him and fuck you too. That's there.

SPEAKER_00

Fuck you too. Is there ever?

SPEAKER_03

Is there yeah, that's true. Like, I was even trying to think if it was it if they even had an explicit one and a non-explicit one. No, no, no. No, no. Yeah, well, he didn't curse. Uh at least at least back then.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, eventually his newer stuff he has.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So I'm like weird to hear about it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

As as you were going through your whole experience, I was kind of like, it's weird because I do feel like you and I have had very similar uh childhood upbringings. And I was like, oh yeah, the difference is like my parents are immigrants, so like I fooled them. Like they never had to, they couldn't understand like what was going on. So like it was fine. Uh, but weirdly, Eminem was also the the the reason like I pushed it too far, um, which was like up until then, you know, my parents weren't following anything. Also, they just lived in a very like conservative world uh view, so they didn't know that these things were possible or that they were like available to whatever. Um I mean, and the fact that I would like you know be like, oh uh hey dad, we want to rent this movie for the sleepover, and it was like American Pie 2. And he's just like, Cool, whatever. Like he can't he's not thinking that like, oh, this could be adult content, you know, because they're just like there's no way this would not that would not be in a room locked away somewhere, you know. Uh and so so we got away with all these things, and then the real tough moment was uh 8 Mile came out, and I was like, Dad, you gotta, you gotta just bring me and my buddy to this because we're you know we're obsessed. And it was my dad's clearly like his first time experiencing them. Granted, 8 Mile is probably a a better way to have it have the experience in like lyrics from those early albums, but you know, there's that moment, especially for you know, set like conservative Indian upbringing, whatever. Uh, there's a moment where like he bangs the girl in like a hallway or something in the factory. It is a moment is scarred in my brain. Like, if you've ever had an awkward moment watching something sexual with your parents, like having your Indian dad realize what he's done with like you and your friend there and like watching like a graphic sex scene that he didn't know would be like really like within the realm of feasibility. Like, I looked up at him. It was it was so funny, dude. He he was so angry and like it was such a quiet drive home. Um, I think he got over it eventually, but my god, it was at that moment I was like, okay, I don't think I can I can get away with this anymore.

SPEAKER_03

I think they're gonna be Did he feel like you had tricked him, or did he feel like like all of you were totally bamboozled by this movie?

SPEAKER_00

No, I think I think I think it's a mix of both, right?

SPEAKER_01

I think it's a mix of like I think it's dad, why did you take me here? How did you not know better?

SPEAKER_00

Well, also, we should add, like, I was like I was like 13 at this point, right? For 12 or 13. So like it's not like I was we were like babies. Um, but it's just so funny that like I think my parents, I mean we've we've joked about the fact that like in high school I would be left alone with like even if I had girls over in the basement until like 1 a.m. while they were like asleep snoozing away because there's just like what's what what would be the risk? Like what could be going on? Nothing of that happens. Um, so yeah, I don't know. It was just funny growing up.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I will say that like that we had very similar upbringings in one sense, but on the other sense, being at your house was like a culture shock to me of like the amount of freedom that you had in your house that your parents would just that we would just be down in your basement and just your parents would just never come down and like check on us. Like it was just we would come and go from the house as we please and be like, oh my god, this is totally not what it like you would be cursing around your parents, I'd be like, what is happening? Like, I cannot imagine I was like clutching my pearls, like, oh my, this is uh this is such a different environment than what I'm than what I'm used to. So uh I can definitely see where you where you uh you definitely you were you were the one introducing your parents to this sort of stuff rather than your parents knowing about it and sheltering you like I was. So um all right, cool. Uh yeah, I think that about does it. Yeah, you guys have anything else to add for it?

SPEAKER_02

No, I just gotta go listen to some uh some getting jiggy with it.

SPEAKER_00

I I was yeah. I was gonna start rapping some MM and I was like, you know what? That's that's that's gonna be a lot. It's hard to the the memorable lines aren't the ones you're gonna have fun repeating. It's something that's recorded and listenable by others. Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_03

All right. Uh cool. That that uh that brings to it to an end here for an encounter. That's episode 27, is in the books now. Uh appreciate you guys sticking with us. Hope you guys are enjoying it so far and that you have a good week. Good luck to everyone in our league on this weekend in the tournament. Um I had probably the worst first weekend ever that I can remember. I'm usually really good in the first rounds, and this was horrific for me. So now it's a different aspect trying to climb up from the bottom and hope that I make good picks at the end. Uh so we'll see. Hopefully it's a good weekend for everyone. Uh once again, hope you have a good week, and we'll talk to you all later. Have a good one. See ya.

SPEAKER_04

See ya.

SPEAKER_03

Bye.