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howdy ho my boys. you know what's on the agenda this week: a whole lotta random stuff with a side of ncaa basketball. take it all in. it's life, man. LIFE!
Howdy, Jess.
SPEAKER_03Welcome to the next episode of this podcast that we are doing currently. Hope you all are enjoying it. Let's get right into it. I think a good place to start is the NCAA tournament. Just uh, you know, it's uh it's pointed because we have a bunch of biggest representation and especially on the Yukon side. Uh so now down to the final four, which is Michigan and Arizona and Yukon and Illinois, uh, surprisingly. So one of those is not like the others. And I saw the meme of uh the guy from uh from The Simpsons that says I'm in danger, and it was and it was Illinois looking at the other three people in the final four. Yeah, um which is I think Illinois's a little underrated.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean I think at this point, kind of anyway. If I was if I was UConn, I wouldn't take them lightly. I think Illinois can play. I can't remember which I can't remember what stat it was that Yukon surprised me. I don't know if it was Ken Pom or like one of those other like analytics, but they were like a surprisingly like dark horse for the for the final four.
SPEAKER_03Well, it's funny because those final four are the top four in Ken Pom. But the gap between uh actually, I don't know if that was if that was expecting Duke to win or not. I was gonna say that might be digital. But either way, but Duke has to be included in that. But Illinois was in the top four, however way it turned out. But it was like the gulf between the top three and the fourth was like massive. I didn't like look at the numbers myself, but uh just someone uh was was uh talking about that. But yeah, I mean uh the Michigan game was terrible. Um they they stomped all over them, but they planned it really well and had the the Duke Yukon game afterwards, and that game turned out to be awesome, and I'm really pumped that I was able to watch that all the way through. Uh we had I had one of my friends down here who's a Yukon guy who was at the game because it was in DC down here. Um so I messaged him at halftime. I was like, yo, I hope that Hurley's got some adjustments up his sleeve, or else this is gonna be ugly. And he sent me a picture from the game. He was like, I know, man, it's not great right now. I was like, Oh damn, you're actually at the game. Like, that's even worse. I'm sorry. You spent a lot of money on those tickets to watch an absolute beatdown, and it turned out to be maybe you know the best ticket of his life. Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, a historic shot at the end of it. So interested from your perspective, Sarav, and uh, you know, where you were to watch it and kind of how that was how that how that went down.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know if this is a good transition point, but this is my what's good for this week, naturally.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_06Um I uh yeah, so we we we picked a bar to go see it at. Actually, in retrospect, it doesn't make sense anymore. We picked a bar to go see it at that we uh go to pretty regularly. It's like in walking distance of uh some of our friends' apartments. Um and we only picked it is because you guys know we do like Sunday night shows and like dinner and like we kind of do this thing together. Um and so we picked this place purely so that we can walk to our friend's place right after and get back to our Sunday night tradition.
SPEAKER_03Um when you say we for your group, like what's the breakdown of Yukon fans versus non-Yukon basketball fans? Like it's all Yukon. Everyone root for Yukon or yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06These are basically like all people we met and I met in Yukon. We all met each other and became friends in Yukon, and we all just happened to move to the city. Um, so yeah, yeah, it's all Yukon pretty much. Um so yeah, we're there, and uh, you know, we were worried about getting seats, but thankfully, I think after the earlier game cleared out, um, we we grabbed some space. It was kind of like warm and nice out, like kind of just good conditions, and we just started watching this game. Um and uh it was it was exhilarating. I mean, most of the game, you know, we're just playing from behind and like not looking great, can't make a three for our lives, really frustrating. Um and then, you know, start clawing our way back, which also we've seen our I've again, you know me. I'm not a sports guy, I'm just a vibes guy for the most part. And I'm like, I've been here before where Yukon like suddenly shows that we can be talented, and like, but so often I've seen us just not actually close the gap. So I'm mentally and emotionally preparing for that to happen again, which is like, oh cool.
SPEAKER_03And they've done this a bunch of times. Like, I feel like it was always I mean, this was as of like last year and the year before, and it was like Yukon in the first half, it would be kind of close and be like, oh man, like the other team's competitive. And then in the second half, it'd be like, Oh, okay, never mind. Yukon just like takes off and just you know winds up winning by 20. So you're right.
SPEAKER_06Exactly.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I mean, they do have these second half resurgences, yeah. Uh that happen.
SPEAKER_06But you know, I'm so used to somehow it not always working out and like just falling short, like being, I mean, you what was it last year that we like you know made a three, but like we're still down two, and that was it, end of the game. Um so like again, I'm getting ready for that, and then you know, we hit those threes towards the end, and we're like, all right, like, you know, and I'm I'm still optimistic. I don't think anyone's like checked out, everyone's like eagerly watching what's gonna happen. Um, and then yeah, like the the moment happens with the Mullins three, and like that like bar, it was just like it's it like it snapped. I mean, it was just like one of those moments where like people were screaming, people could not believe what just happened. Like, and to be there alive for that energy and with your friends, like we were losing our fucking minds. It was incredible, it was so cool. Uh, and then you know, you're kind of like, all right, like, do we have it in the bag? Like, do we just need to kill time? Like, and thankfully, you know, um, we we obviously sealed the deal, which was great. But yeah, man, I don't know. I I had this moment of like I went to the bathroom afterwards just to take a piss. And you know, I'm just sitting there and I'm just like, man, this is what this is what being alive is about. Like, like, you know what I mean? Like, it felt really cheesy, but uh I set my uh my coworkers that scene from one battle after another. I don't know if you guys remember this now, but it's like when Leo's on the phone and he's like, Life, man. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly kind of the energy I had. Um uh but yeah, dude, it was just it was awesome. And honestly, it was like so much that we like, I was like, I'm going home. Like we can't, like, I can't do like more shit after this because like I'm just like this is great. And I'm trying. I don't know. It was just like we we we we like drank a lot, like you know, we had like kind of celebratory stuff, and I was like, all right, like I gotta call it. I had I had kind of a semi-early like Monday morning too. Um, so so I was just like, yeah, I gotta go. Um it was just it was just so awesome. And then, you know, you get home, uh, you get on Twitter, and you look at like one or two posts, and this is the rare time that I'm actually okay with uh like how social media and just website algorithms are like so terrible in that like if you just observe something for too long, it's like, oh, you like this. We're gonna make all of what you're looking at just this. But like post UConn winning the game, I was alright with it. Whole feed, just replays, comments, memes, like Duke making fun of Duke memes. Like, it was incredible. And I was like, Yeah, this is a good night. So honestly, yeah, I mean, I don't know how to describe it, but like watching something like that go down live with a bunch of your like friends, but also other strangers who are just rooting for the same team as you. Um, the energy's crazy. Like, it was just and also just I mean, a moment like that, you're uh you're you're lucky to come by it. We are so spoiled as UConn fans for how many like last shot, last second victories we've we've gotten to like have, but that one's up there, man. That was that was amazing.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, that's all yeah. I mean, I and what you were saying about like that feeling uh, you know, of like the bar exploding and just that feeling of you know, life that this is what it's all about. Like, I feel like that's what makes sports awesome because like that it feels like such a uniquely sports-centric thing. I think like you know, music and art could kind of have a little bit of that, but nothing of like that like elation, you know.
SPEAKER_06That's that's exactly the thought I had in the bathroom where I'm like, it's so silly. Like, if you think I was thinking, I was like, if I was an alien and I was like, so you guys just invented this thing, and now like if you are all of your emotional capital into it. But not only that, but like you are you are able to physiologically like recreate like basically cardiac arrest, like because of like the way you're watching this. And I'm just like it, but at the same time, I'm like, this is fucking magical. Like it's awesome.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, right. It is, and the fact that we have like a whole month that's full of that is so cool with so many of those moments looking back of like the big shots that have made other fan bases around the country feel the exact same thing, you know. Uh I think that's awesome.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_02That's what like when we when we went to that uh the what was it? We went to the Suite 16 and the Elite Eight in Philly, and it was the during the St. Peter's run.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like just and we and we somehow ended up sitting in the St. Peter's section. And like just start off, talk about being a vibes guy. Like those, like those guys were just and that was when they beat Purdue, I think, in the Sweet 16. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Purdue in the in the Sweet 16, yeah.
SPEAKER_02In the Suite 16. So then they got stopped. By UNC in the in the Elite Eight. Was it UNC or UNC? It was one of those big power programs.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, stopped them. But like just like the vibes, like they were just all just like so hyped about this like run that they're on. And it's it's wild from an outside experience. Like I have no idea what some like a different life form would think about it. I mean, think about it, it's incredibly stupid. Yeah. Like there's no there's no real reason to be that invested in it and to like actually care about this thing because it it like actually literally does not matter. Yeah, but at the same time, it's also everything because it's like that's life. Like, like getting that feeling, and it's about feeling it's that's something that you can't quantify and it's not you know scientific at all. Yeah, it was incredible. That's cool. That's cool.
SPEAKER_03Um, yeah, I mean, awesome game. Uh I I feel like we'll be like we'd be remiss to not mention the controversy, the controversy afterwards since it's blown up. I feel like you know, as everyone knows, there's a whole there's a video of Danny Hurley having some some interaction with the referee after the game. And and I'll just say that I think that I actually have I don't know if respect is the right word, but I appreciate Danny Hurley. I don't, you know, I think he's kind of a D-bag, but at the same time, he's clearly a great coach and his players would run through a wall for him. That speaks like volumes for someone where like as much as I don't, you know, that his antics kind of like get over the top at sometimes, like compare that to someone like Mick Cronin, right? Like that dude's that dude's not a good person. Like inside and out, you can tell that his his players don't like him, media doesn't like him, like nobody likes that dude. That's different than Danny Hurley, I think. His he's a good coach and his players respect for him that they respect him and go to bat for him. So, you know, I I I don't I think that's hard, it's hard to dispute that. Like he's you know, he he has done that. And so when that situation happened after the game, I was like, whatever, man, that happened, the game's done. Like they're not gonna go back and like replay anything from the game. And like, yeah, is it over the top, sure. But I think that I think that what is almost like rage bait is just the Yukon fan rationalization of trying to like justify the actions. You know what I mean? Like, if it was just like, hey man, he's kind of a D-bag, but he's our D-bag and we love him. It's like, dude, great. Like, absolutely. But it's the trying to come up with a reason about him hearing the referee was is just like, you gotta like that there has to be a little bit of delusion in that. Like, you no sane person could look at that and think, like, if you just showed a person that video and like, hey, explain what's going on here, you give them a hundred guess-ins and they'd never get to, oh, he's trying to hear him better. And like the fact that and and I just saw an interview where Dan where he was interviewed by Mark Ingram, which is yeah, that's such a random podcast. I don't know where that how they got linked up, but Dan Hurley was talking about it, and he was like, Yeah, you know, honestly, like I was hyped up in it. I have a good relationship with the ref. I was just really into the moment, and like I thought that he was coming over to chest bump me, which would be a weird thing for a ref to do, anyways.
SPEAKER_00Um can you can you imagine this team hits a big shot? The ref just goes start celebrating with the other coach.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00Like, oh, we did it, man.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but he was just like, hey man, I was in the moment, you know, and I was just really hyped up for it. Like, cool, that's great. So, straight from Dan Hurley, he never mentioned anything about trying to hear a ref or anything like that. So that wasn't from Hurley, that was just some Yukon fan that was trying to like rationalize it. And then like everyone gets in line, like, guys, come on. He was clearly just leaning in. It was like no sane person thinks that that's what was happening there. It's fine. His antics are over the top, whatever. Just like embrace it. Be like, man, he does things that are just kind of weird sometimes, and like, but like that's our guy. It's like, okay, cool.
SPEAKER_06Like that was I feel like that that was definitely like, yeah, and I think that's that was my point in our in our little group chat watching what felt like, oh, this is like politics again.
SPEAKER_03Where I didn't want to say that here, but it was the exact parallel that I was thinking. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06I was sitting there and I was like, oh, everyone who like wants to believe a thing. And here's the thing I'm a Yukon fan. My first reaction when I saw that clip was like, Whoa, that was really risky. Like, if we could have gotten a tech and lost it, like he would never forgive himself, and like that would be terrible, whatever. Reasonable reaction. And my first reaction was I had two thoughts. One was like your gut primitive caveman reaction, which is like my brain first went to he was like, Yeah, how you like me now, bitch. Like, that's what I felt like I saw in the body language. The second reaction was was okay, he's not insane enough, maybe to like risk the game, risk attack, and then like the game going the other way. I know that he is kind of not he can be unhinged, but I was like, maybe he knows the guy. And like that's just kind of like a little bit of what that is. It sounds like from what he said when Mark Ingram, like, that might have been closer to what the reality was. Uh, but yeah, watching scrolling Twitter and like seeing, yeah, I don't know. Uh, but I'm not gonna say like people who are, you know, anti-dan Hurley, like they were going on the other other extreme too.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna say, whoa, the exact other end holds up too. There were there were people saying that it should like I don't no matter how much you disagree with what happened, like no one's gonna advocate for a tech. No one's saying would advocate for a tech there. No one would say that that that action by the coach should have resulted in a technical call in that situation. The letter of the laws, is it like not the right thing to do? Absolutely. Like you you can't make that kind of contact with a referee in that situation. At the same time, after that shot in that situation with 0.3 left, no one's going nobody sane would say that that game would have been better served if it had ended on a technical. Like that that should not have happened. And there were a lot of people saying that it should have. So the the delusion just just like in politics, the delusion does go on. It's wild to watch, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. We can find a middle ground where like all of us sane people can agree on like the same things here. Like, was he trying to hear him better? No. Should it have been a technical? Should he have been thrown out? Should he be fired? No. Can we the game's done? They're not just playing.
SPEAKER_00It is what it's saying to go forward to forehead with a with a referee. It is odd. Yeah, it's odd.
SPEAKER_03It's weird. But that's also in line with Danny Hurling, right? Like, that is that's not out of the realm of possibility for his character that he plays on. Because when he's in these interviews and stuff like that, it's like, okay, this is just a normal dude. The character that he plays on the court is someone totally different, right? Like, and that's good. Like that, like that motivates his team. Like he fires them up, man. And they're the team that's gonna come back from 19 down against Duke in the Elite Eight. Like, that is what that's part of the reason why they're so good, is because of who he is, both on the court and off the court. And so, whatever it is, it's working. That's nothing against him. It's just yeah, it's just the reactions that are like so polar opposites. It's like, guys, we we can come to a sane conclusion, you know, conclusion here and and and like agree on it without getting a little too delusional. But yeah, it's kind of funny, kind of nice. Yeah, I mean, but it's great for the sport. I mean, it's like engagement. It does make it interesting. So many people talked about the game, and so many people are talking about his reaction. That's like it's it's it's great.
SPEAKER_06It is good. I will say, like, I don't love how much there was some like ammo given to the anti-yukon or whatever, not even anti-yukon, just people who don't even like care as much. Like the that final fucking three was a miracle, you know what I mean? Yeah, and I feel like it's not that it's gotten overshadowed, but it has lost some of the attention and respect and highlight real kind of stuff to this thing now as being the distraction. And I'm like, that kind of sucks. Like, you know, that should be the glorious thing, but we're still talking about this at the end of the like days later. Um so that I I I I'm sure even Danny Hurley's like a little bummed, like, damn it, I like I did this random thing, and like I didn't even think it was anything, and now this is what the conversation's about.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it wasn't something that I consciously did, it just like happened in the moment, and yeah, now's what it's all you know, but yeah, I think now we have like that just comes with the territory with with Danny Hurley, though.
SPEAKER_02Like you're you're gonna get I don't and I don't think we've talked a lot about the two sides of the same coin. I don't think you get one without the other. Like I think that and hence unhingedness is like part of what makes him such a great coast. And I just know that you would be able to just add the good parts.
SPEAKER_06You guys are like way more plugged in on college sports and basketball in general. I'm so like kind of I won't I wouldn't I don't want to say like a fair weather fan, but I do just plug in when it matters. Um I think most people do that. Someone like resurfaced some clip of Danny Hurley and like all the superstitious shit he does, which was crazy. I didn't know that. Did you guys know about this? Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_03I don't think I've seen like pregame stuff. Like I saw like interview from Tracy Wolfson where she mentioned something because about his like pin. She meant because like he came up, but like this this is my only like like like exposure to it. Yeah, exposure to it was that Tracy Wolfman came up to interview him. He's like, he's like, oh man, I'm missing my pin, I'm missing my pin. She's like, Coach, we can get you another pin. Although I know how superstitious you are about that stuff. I was like, Oh, there must be other stuff, but I didn't I didn't look into it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so they like the it was part of a whole segment, and they followed him with a camera as he like I think he I'm I'm gonna butcher this because I just watched it in like passing. He like sages of the court, he uh he sprays holy water on like the hoop and the net, and then like he he like puts stuff behind the bleachers in places, and it's like all part of this like I'm you know, I like you gotta do this. Like, you gotta like as if there's like basketball spirits and gods that he's like, you know, it was it's fascinating. I was like, holy shit, I was like, damn, this motherfucker's really like way, way weirder than I thought, but like it all still adds up. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Man, I'm I'm I was trying to find it real quick. I know that there was a recent uh instance of someone sprinkling holy water and it look and it had you know, and people linked it to the outcome of the game, and I can't remember what it was right now. It's saying something about Indiana football. I'd have to do some research on it. But I know that it was like recently some someone sprinkled holy water somewhere, and it was like where a big touchdown was scored. It was like was like where holy water was sprinkled, something like that. Something like that. But uh yeah, no, I didn't I didn't know that about uh hurley. That's interesting. Um, all right, cool. Well, either way, good tournament. It's a great final four. I think that Michigan-Arizona game is gonna be insane. I cannot wait for that one. Yeah, uh I think you thought Illinois is gonna be a good game, too. Yeah, I mean, either way, it's four good teams, and uh we'll see. You know, they didn't get there by accident.
SPEAKER_06So I was gonna say this, like, I'm not a rational basketball watcher, so like as much as people are like, oh, Illinois, that's a good, like, you know, whatever. I'm almost like that might be bad. Like we might we might really uh what's the opposite? Like a rise to the challenge. We might sink to the challenge and then somehow fumble it. Like, like I don't want us to do that, but like I feel like I've seen it happen too much. Um, so you know, fingers crossed.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and yeah, I mean, and even Illinois has, I think there was some there's some reason why they have all these Scandinavian players. It was like they had like an education program with them that created a link with them, and then now that got them because it because if you notice, all of their starters are all like, you know, Eastern European Slavic names, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, including Peter Dirakovich's son.
SPEAKER_06I remember we had some we had some Dutch kids stay with us for like a month in the summer one time. So back when we were living over there, so it must be a thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. Yeah, so all of them have their good stories, and it'll be good to see. Uh all right. Since uh it kind of touched on your what's good, I guess we'll just keep it rolling here. Brandon, what you got for what's good?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so what's good, we got the um the boys because the our older two, Teddy and and James, are gonna be in the same school next year. So their spring break is gonna line up, whereas like now it's like misaligned. Um so they're gonna be in on spring break, and uh the little ones are still in daycare, so um not beholden to any schedule. So we're We're gonna take the time. We we booked a Disney cruise for the first time as like our next family vacation that we'll do in 2027. Um excited for that.
SPEAKER_06Uh we're going on you booked it for 2027, dude.
SPEAKER_02It's wild. Like, like and runes were like sparse to come by. It's in March of 2027, and the boat is is a good part full. Like it's it's wild. People who play in these, and I thought I thought Megan was crazy and that we're like way ahead of the game and and no, and especially because as a family of six, and my parents are gonna come too. Um we invited them along for it. So there's eight of us. So and even but even so, the reason why we did is because we need two rooms regardless, because we're because we're six.
SPEAKER_03Are you only doing two rooms?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02No, your parents are getting their own. And then you well, my parents will have a room and Teddy and James or Teddy or James will stay there, and then me, Megan, and the little separate cabin. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So Man, that's that's awesome. That's really cool. Where where is it going from?
SPEAKER_02Goes out of Port Canaveral. Port Canaveral or Fort Lauderdale. Fort Lauderdale.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Is where this one goes out of. Um and it stops in the Bahamas and like the two like the two Disney Islands that are there in the in the Caribbean. So um won't get off the boat and won't like get a passport for the kids. They don't have their passports, and I I don't uh I don't think we would would need to get off the boat for anything for there. But you can get off the boat at the Disney Islands, which I think.
SPEAKER_03So they only need a passport if you're getting off. I thought that you would need it even to go on the cruise.
SPEAKER_02Interesting.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02It's highly recommended. And that's because like if like the boat breaks down, you need to fly out of the Bahamas and they don't have a passport, they can't. But to get off at like the Disney, because the Disney ones, I don't I don't know what territory they're considered or whatever, but you don't need a passport to to get off the boat to do that. Yeah. As long as you still have to do it. Just because it's yeah. But I don't know. Going through that whole process just doesn't seem worth it. Like I don't think we would play in any other international travel within the the next five years to make that worth it. Um but excited for it. It's we're going on this like this boat that just launched last year. It had its its its uh Maiden Voyage. It has like a uh heroes and villains theme to it. And we were like looking around and the the restaurants look awesome, the food looks really good. Um haven't been on a cruise in a long, long time. So uh so really excited for it. Obviously, this cruise is gonna be very different. A, because it's Disney, a Disney cruise, which I haven't done before. Uh, and B because of the child nature of it. But um like the child stuff looks cool. Like I kind of wish that we had done a family vacation. They have like all kinds of kids' clubs where they're like kids-only areas where adults don't go. And they have like all these wild like uh like activities and stuff you can do while you're there. Teams pretty cool for them.
SPEAKER_03So I mean, you know, I'm a huge proponent of cruises. I feel like we've had a lot of good memories and experience on cruises with our friend group that went on and did our thing. And then Brandon, that's is that the last one where you and Megan started, you know, kind of kindled your relationship?
SPEAKER_02Uh we went on one after that. Okay. I don't remember when it was. Uh I think uh I think that was a carnival cruise too, though. Uh but yeah, the there's like one more after that. Like it was like just like a year after that, or maybe two years after that. But that was the last one.
SPEAKER_06Am I losing my mind? Brandon. Did you join us for the trap? I wasn't on the cruise. The cruise that you guys did now.
SPEAKER_03Not on the cruise.
SPEAKER_06Because it went directly into New Year's where we went to your apartment in DC for the first time. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you guys were just getting back. Yeah, because we were down in Miami. Yeah. Well, that's cool, man. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I I've heard awesome things about Disney cruises. Anything that Disney does is usually pretty solid, and those cruises seem like they're exactly that. Um that's awesome, man. That'll be fun. Yeah. Yeah, we look forward to it. Yeah. Um's good. Kind of kind of low-key, but um always, you know, just little things that happen with the kids that are always really cool. Um, we had a parent teacher conference for Logan last week. And um she I don't want to say that like we're not like no one's worried about her, just like Megan was very interested in seeing how it would go at the parent teacher conference because we notice things at home that her ability to stay focused on things sometimes um uh sometimes isn't there, and we're and Megan was just very interested in how that would be in a school environment. Um and so we had the parent teaching conference, and we were you know, luckily I was home for it, so I could go to it as well. And her teachers are fantastic. She has one in the morning. Uh for the first half of the year, we only send her to the morning um portion, which is more of like the school uh por like in like the classroom, and then the afternoon was called the Explorers, um, where they do more like sciencey stuff and they're outside a lot and they're doing a lot more interactive things.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03Um so for the second half of the year, uh, we put her in that one as well, so that she just stayed for the whole day. And so she has and it's different teachers in both, and both of them are excellent, like very involved. Uh, they give us feedback, they tell us if there's situations going on, and they provide solutions. Um, th they're just they're great teachers, and it's great for her because they have a lot of energy and they're doing a lot of um cool things that is right up Logan's alley. So, anyways, we had the parent teacher conference, and uh and the teachers had nothing but awesome things to say about Logan, which is just like a really proud moment. Um, because you know, we see we see who she is at home and we see how smart she is, how intelligent, what a big heart she has, that she has love for everyone. But if you're not, but it's kind of one of those things that like it either jives with you or it kind of like bothers you because she has so much energy and she's you know always kind of like in your face about stuff. Um, so I think that's what we were worried about is that like if people don't understand her or like get that or can see through that sort of stuff, it could not be a good match. Um, but the teacher said that she was awesome, like she helps out everyone. Um, you know, she knows the answers to everything where they have to like tell her, hey, you know, you gotta let the other kids answer, and she does that. And I mean, just like everything was just really, really good. Um, it was emotional for me. Uh just like you know, whenever you hear good things about your kids, it makes you makes you really proud. Um, so that it was it was just good to hear, like, hey, is she looking good for kindergarten? And they were like, absolutely, there's zero concerns about her going into kindergarten, uh, which is which is always good. So uh proud of our little girl that she's that she's crushing it uh in in preschool so far. Um that's awesome, man.
SPEAKER_06That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why, but I was like, I was like, uh that's such an interesting kind of conundrum because it's like, wait, like you're going in like I don't know, it's like expect a teacher or whatever to be like, uh Mr. and Miss McGoi, do you know who Patrick Starr is? Yeah. Right. Yeah. We think that'd be a good bar for Logan to try to aim for. Yeah. Yeah. Uh like uh how does like I'm curious, like you guys know you know her so well. The disparity is fascinating to me. Or the the capacity that you have for expecting a disparity and like how she's gonna be perceived is interesting.
SPEAKER_03Because we've been interested in seeing if she delves into the ADHD spectrum. Okay, how that would affect her in the classroom.
SPEAKER_06And so and so we asked, so it's less about less about like, yeah, okay. So it's less about like is she is do people recognize that she's smart?
SPEAKER_03It's is she like just not optimal in terms of like it's it's kind of both of those, right? Like on the academic side, it's a little bit of like, hey, is she able to stay focused on tasks to be able to complete? Because we see things at home where it's like if she's into something, she is into it. If she has something that she likes to do, I mean she is locked in. If it's something that she's not, her mind will wander and she'll kind of move on to different things. So from the academic side, that's what we were interested in seeing. And then on the social side, we've seen very many times like she is the most social girl we've ever seen. Like, if we go to a park, she will make a best friend there within minutes and she'll be with that person. She is not shy about going up to people, talking to them, you know, and just getting right in with them. That's right. But that can be off-putting to other kids who are more shy and reserved. Logan comes in very hot and is like, hey, what's your name? My name's Logan. You want to do this, you want to play this? And the other kids are like, Oh, this girl's kind of odd. So we were interested from you know, on that social side. So both of those together, for academic in terms of her ability to focus, and then social, is she off-putting to other kids? Um, but it seems like she's friends with the entire class. The class loves being around her. They were the ones that uh the teachers like when we only had her in the first part uh for the first half of the year, the teachers were like, the kids really want Logan to stay for the rest of the day. Um, they really miss her when she's gone, which you know, which is not good.
SPEAKER_06I get like weird, I get like even when we've all been together, I get like kind of uh leader caretaker vibes from her. And I could see also like, you know, basically like a bunch of other kids being like, damn, Logan's like, I don't know, she just kind of like looks out for people in a weird way. And I'm just like she does. Yeah, yeah. So it's like it's kind of nice. So I could see I could see her being like, yeah, very well liked.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. And uh and it's good that that's that that's holding up and that the reports are there. Where now we at least have a data point of saying, like, hey, she's she's doing well in school, and uh, you know, we're excited for her to keep to keep moving on. Um so yeah. Uh yeah, and then the other little one is that uh I took I took Lennon to uh so I mentioned it on my video last week. We we're starting to lose our minds here. We don't know what's going on, but people are getting sick left and right, but they're not getting sick, throwing up and having diarrhea. And you remember when I was recording a couple weeks ago, right? I threw up a couple of sick and I thought it was like bad chicken. Uh then I mean Lennon throws up every few nights. She'll wake up in the middle of the night. And I don't know, she's like the greatest little three-year-old that she'll call out, be like, hey, Lenny, what's up? She's like, I think I'm gonna throw up. We're like, hey, we'll meet you at your door. She'll get to the door, she'll walk to the bathroom, and she'll throw up in the toilet, which I think feel like for little kids. I know that when I was a kid, I was like, I'm not moving. Like, I'm throwing up, I'm like on the floor here in my bed. Like, I'm not getting to a bathroom and throwing up. But she will she recognize when she has to, and she'll walk herself to the toilet and she'll throw up. She throws up like every few nights, it feels like. And then Logan uh has thrown up randomly. Megan has thrown up randomly. Since I had that those weeks ago, like everyone's been thrown up, like every few nights. No one's sick. So it started with Lennon because she was doing it the most regularly. Uh, you know, we're keeping track of everything that she's eating. Does she have a lactose intolerance? Is she allergic to something? Like, what is going on? But but when we track everything that she's eating, there's like no commonalities between them that we can link it. Um and just and I was gone uh last night, no, two nights ago, whatever it was, and uh Logan threw up everywhere. She did it while she was still sleeping. Megan's like, yeah, she didn't, she wasn't like awake. She woke up after she finished throw throwing up and she was just confused why there was so much like throw up around. And then the next morning, Megan had it and she was throwing up, and uh so we're like we are racking our brains as to what could be. And I'm and I'm at the point where I'm like, man, I feel like we gotta get our air tested in the house. Like, is there air?
SPEAKER_06Is it water?
SPEAKER_03Like, what's going on? Yeah, like is there like a small leak? Is there is you know, like I'm making sure all of our carbon monoxide detectors are on or something? Like, yeah. Um, I'm very interested in it. Um, they're going away to her parents' house for the hol for uh Easter, and I'm like, we need this.
SPEAKER_02You should take why saw um and just do like a deep disinfect of everything in the house. See if there's like some like salmon or something that got that you guys are just passing around to each other that's just like persistent. That's what I was trying to think.
SPEAKER_03Like, is it coming from our like water? Because like we all have water bottles, right? That we fill up from our refrigerator water. Like, did someone maybe like touch that with something? You know, like they stuck their hand in their pants, and then now like they touch touch, you know. I don't know. But uh yeah, but no one's sick. No one like we don't have fevers, like no one has anything. Just randomly at night, people will wake up and be throwing up.
SPEAKER_02Dude, maybe you have a poltergeist. So maybe there's a maybe there's some kind of maybe it's a poltergeist, maybe it's some kind of like spirit or something in there that's just like, you know what, I'm just gonna make this team throw up.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but so uh getting back to the original thing, uh we were really focused on Lennon because she throws up the most often. And so Megan took her to the doctors the other day and they checked her out, they gave her some medicine to maybe think that she has that she could have um reflux. Um, but I'm sitting here thinking like everyone's doesn't I don't think it's her anymore, but we can we yeah, but we can at least but we can at least pull this thread and see where it goes. So they also wanted to do blood work and see if she has an intolerance to some type of food or something like that. We have not, I don't know if I mentioned it, but like we have not we were she was supposed to get blood work at two years old, and we went three different times and they could not get blood from her. Uh they just could not find the vein, you know, her veins were too small, they just were not able to. So it was a little bit traumatic for her, but she always handled it like a champ. And so I took her today to get blood work, and it was just in my head about how different of an experience it is with her than it was with Logan, as you remember my flu shot story where she went catatonic on us. Um, you know, Lennon, she said, Hey dad, I'm scared. I'm like, I totally get it. And she was like, Is this gonna hurt? I'm like, it will, it's gonna pinch a little bit, but then it'll be all right. Uh but you know, and she cried and she screamed, but she stuck her arm out there, they got it in there, and she kept her arm still. She just looked at it the whole time and she was crying, but she she was a champ and she handled it really, really well. Really proud of her. Um, so yeah, just uh that's that's the other part of my what's good is that Lennon is a lot more pleasant to go do meals with than Logan.
SPEAKER_06So I like that you've continued your theme of like your what's good is always like a little gem, just like wrapped in so much concerning shit.
SPEAKER_03I know, I know. I mean it's really like if anyone else has any ideas, please feel free, feel free to offer them up because we are we're losing it. Uh but but yeah, but the underlying part, it's good. Um all right, cool. Uh before we get into it, I just have a few random uh flying stories recently. One of them is that I flew Beyonce's parents the other day, which I thought was pretty interesting. They had Knowles on board. There you go. Um which was like, you know, another like Miss Miss Tina. Yeah, and I don't know, Matthew, I think. Yeah something like that. Um, but like I you know, it was like one of those like, well, my six degrees of separation to Beyonce went down to two degrees now. Um you know, that much closer there. Um, so that's pretty cool. And the the other one is we were uh we were boarding, getting ready to leave, and um myself and the captain were up going to the bathroom, and then there's this group of girls coming on, and they were maybe I I said group of girls, and Megan's like, well, how old were they? What does girls mean? I'm like, this is exactly the conversation that we were having. Like, are they women? Are they ladies? Are they girls? I don't know, but they were like 20-something year old females, yeah, these female specimens. So they were coming on, and one of them like came up to us and was like, Hey, it's our friend's birthday. She's in 30 D. Would you be able to give her a shout-out for her birthday? Nor and Norma, I'd be like, Yeah, like absolutely. But as I'm looking at the other girls, there's one girl who's wearing a pink shirt and in big old black letters, it says, I eat pussy like a fat kid eats cake. And like, it just gave me pause of like, I want to shout out your friend, but like, man, that is it, it just was her perception. No, it was it was not hers. We but we didn't know at the time. We didn't we didn't know at the time, but it's the same sort of thing of like, oh man, if we give a shout-out to this person and then everyone else sees what this person's wearing, it's like it makes things messy from a company perspective. You know what I mean? Like you can't be drawing attention to where exactly. So like the captain and I talked about this like the rest of the flight of like we cannot fathom the amount of I don't know what the right word is, not giving a shit to wear something like that. You know what I mean? Maybe this is our you know, unk status at this point, but it's like, you know, both of us are dads, and uh and he was like, Man, if my daughter even owned a shirt like that, like she would not own a shirt like that. Like, I cannot imagine and then to have you know walking around with that. But then we were like, oh man, like are you just wearing it just for the shock factor? Right. You're just trying to see what other people's reactions are. It's it seems like very much like a streamer type of thing that you'd have someone recording as you're walking around with a shirt and like seeing people's reactions or like hoping that someone says something, you know what I mean? Uh it just felt like one of those things. So then at the end of the flight, the girl whose birthday it was came up to Flight Tank and was like, Hey, would you mind if I took a picture? And we were like, Oh, thank God it's you. Okay, we're like, Thank God it's you. And because we were saying we're like, if it was the girl with that shirt, like we would have to decline, which is a weird thing. You know, it's all about customer service and increasing these relationships. But at the same time, it's like, sorry, we can't put our uniform and company in front of a social media in front of a shirt that says that. Yeah. Exactly, exactly.
SPEAKER_06So as soon as you started talking about it, I was like, oh yeah, there's one shirt that is also pretty inappropriate, but the only one permissible that I have seen in public, actually. And it's uh it's a very Maryland shirt. Shout out Maryland.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_06It's a shirt that says uh if she don't suck me like a crab leg, I'm calling my old bae. That's pretty good. And so, you know, the crab is animated, you it doesn't say old bay, it has just the box of the seasoning. It's like, yeah, it's pretty good. But yeah, that's that's pretty fucking nuts.
SPEAKER_03Just such, you know, I mean, hey, we're in this day and age where people wear people wear shocking things, and it is what it is. But it was just now on the other side. We're like, you know, back in the day, it'd be like, I'd be laughing my ass off, be like, man, look at what that person's wearing. That's crazy. But then now it's like, ooh, we've got an image to uphold here. Like, we've got to handle this carefully, and you know, we want to be supportive of everything, but at the same time, like, we're not putting our faces or yeah, uh company in front of that.
SPEAKER_06So quick tag on your uh girls, ladies, females bit. Uh so Friday night we watched the Yukon game at another bar, incredibly packed. This one was like it was interesting because it was clearly like some people who decided to have a baby shower at this bar in a private area, not even a private area. They just reserved the section of the bar to have a baby shower. And I think the idea was like we don't want to take people away from March Madness, we'll just do it at a bar where they can watch the game. So it was actually a bar at night on Friday that was getting filled uh intensely with like grown men walking in with like boxes of diapers and shit. Like it was so funny. Um but there was this one dude who was like in that group and he was like tall and like yoked, like it could not be a more cliche, like muscle bro kind of type, like tight shirt, hat backwards. You hear him talk, and you're just like, How did my brain know that you were gonna sound this way? Like, this is kind of nuts. Like, I just it everything's adding up. And uh I had this moment, he came over to these girls, so we we were struggling to find anywhere to sit because it was so packed, and so we ended up kind of like like getting into a little nook between like their section and some tables and like this uh it's like the water station where people would just get glasses of water. And so we uh we put like our we asked if we could just put our jackets on like this chair that wasn't being used. They're very sweet about it. But these girls were all sitting down, clearly just did not care about you know the game that much. All the dudes are like standing and like congregating and catching up. They haven't seen each other in a while. This dude like walks over, and I swear to god, as soon as this happened, I was like, wait, no, I knew I I think I thought he was gonna do that before he did that. He goes to the girls, he's like, Hey dolls, and I'm like, I knew he was gonna call them dolls. I don't know why. I knew he was gonna call them dolls. But yeah, he's like, I don't think he's like older than us. Like, I think like if you look a certain way, you just start using a certain vernacular. And he's just like, he was like, hey, dolls, like is it okay if I he was like turning the fan on. I was he's getting their permission to make sure they weren't gonna be too cold. And I was like, insane. Uh it's another one to add. the mix though.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, dolls, I guess. But it's but it's funny because only with girls does I don't know. Whatever. Whatever. Only only with the female gender does that does that problem happen. Because as you were talking about that, if you say guys, dudes, bros, like that could be anyone from 20 to 40. And like it's fine. Everyone kind of gets about it, right?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like, you know, like the story can move on. You know, it's like, okay, cool. I have an idea. Like they're generally in this in this age group right here. But it's like girls has a certain age group associated with it. Ladies seems like it has a certain women definitely has a certain age group associated with it. Where it's like you kind of have to like stop the story and be like, hold on, how old were they though? And all you have to be more specific. Whereas like if it's just like a you know a bunch of dudes were here is like okay cool. We got it. Moving on. Keep keep the story going.
SPEAKER_06What if we just keep them confused, start using the word broad. Broads? It's bronze. Stop talking it as broad.
SPEAKER_03Yeah I mean I mean maybe that's the most appropriate. I don't know. All right. Uh let's roll into this week in history.
SPEAKER_06All right let's do it. Uh I I I switched my AI vendor uh so we're we're getting a slightly different version. Uh but that's cool. I think it's fun. It's not different in like I'm still designing the questions but I'm enjoying this kind of formatting for it instead of what we were doing for. So okay starting off one of Apple's three co-founders sold his entire stake back to Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak just 12 days after the company launched around this time. How much did he sell it for? We'll do prices right rules I know it's very open-ended.
SPEAKER_03$1,000. Brandon what you got?
SPEAKER_02I want to say it's even less than that. Because if it's if it was three days after the founding of it, I don't know that they 12 days. 12 days. Still I'm going to go probably stupid because it's probably going to be more than this. So I imagine they had money. But I don't know that they had a lot. I'm going to go 300.
SPEAKER_06I think Brendan gets the point the answer is$800.$800 oh man Ronald Wayne owned 10% of Apple. He owned 10% of Apple and walked away for$800 that stake today would be worth somewhere in the$300 to$400 billion range. And he still says he still says he has no regrets he's the only person he's lying this is actually it's actually funny it's actually funny because like I think this might be a joke that the AI came up with which I think is actually not bad. He was like it ends with like he's the only person in history who can say that that who can say that and be lying to everyone including himself.
SPEAKER_03Yeah yeah there's no way man that reminds me of who is like the first person that bought a pizza with Bitcoin spent like spent like 10 bitcoin or something on a pizza yeah it could have been like billions of dollars. Yeah insane to think about now no regrets.
SPEAKER_06No regrets on April 5th 1972 on April 5th 1792 George Washington did something no U.S. president had done had ever done before and it completely caught Congress off guard. What did he do? It's also funny because George Washington didn't have a U.S. president before him so of course no but it did completely catch Congress off guard. What do you think it was?
SPEAKER_02And so in 1792 he did something did something that no other president had done up until that time. Yeah it could have been anything.
SPEAKER_06Yeah right yeah honestly everything that he did was something that no other president had ever done yeah uh think about this in like presidential powers terms I'm going to say he pardoned somebody what do you got Brendan?
SPEAKER_03Man this is another one Russ is going to be mad Russ is going to be mad if we don't get this um five. Four. Man I got nothing yeah I'm blank. Yeah I got nothing.
SPEAKER_06What is it? Oh well Brandon uh good good good attempt uh Washington issued the very first presidential veto uh veto uh that's a good one he rejected a congressional appointment bill and Congress genuinely hadn't fully worked out what would happen if the president just said no this is never going for yeah they're saying okay cool so we're gonna do this George no wait wait wait wait wait wait wait let me get through this constitution again there's something in here it's a veto right yeah yeah I'm gonna do that I don't want to do that and imagine he did it just to mess with him if he just wanted the veto he's like yeah I don't really care about this Washington used it only twice in his entire presidency which made each one land like a bomb uh every president since has used the veto collectively blocking over 2500 bills. Wow you said every president's used it yep every president since um all right question number three uh on April 5th 1815 a volcanic eruption so catastrophic it canceled summer across the entire planet accidentally inspired one of the most famous novels ever written what what novel 1815 and I'll just give you guys a hint it has nothing to do with the volcanic eruption like don't take it as like oh I'm looking for a novel about volcanic eruptions it's more about what it for summer yeah uh I don't this is a movie this is a movie I think it's based off a book could could not be the day the earth stood still it's my guess all right Brendan what do you got too late I'm on I know man it's been something now I don't know any novel from the 19th century okay uh yeah so uh well I think both of you guys might have been in the wrong century um yeah this was 1815 like you know the day the earth stood still I think is later um the answer is Frankenstein oh Tambora's eruption yeah Mary Shelley Mount Tambora's eruption triggered the year without a summer in 1816 it was cold sunless and miserable Mary Shelley was stuck indoors in Geneva with a group of friends and they challenged each other to write ghost stories and she wrote Frankenstein one volcano one ruined vacation one monster that's been in movies for 200 years without Tambora no Frankenstein and probably no entire gothic horror genre either I don't agree with that that's just AI being slick yeah yeah also also it was making me think that they just said that every president had vetoed since then when what was our fact about the shortest presidency of the dude that died during his guy did not veto I doubt it could have he could have been in his speech he's like you know what there's some bullshit out there I'm saying no to it all right let me just continue here real quick in the cold and get it you know when he had pneumonia for like two weeks he could have vetoed something right before that yeah I've got to do it everyone's done it before everyone's done it um okay I can't be the only one uh on April fourth nineteen sixty four uh this is not a well designed question we're just gonna run with it we're gonna we're gonna run with it yeah hit us with it perfect april fourth nineteen sixty four Apple Records was years away from existing but the band that made that record uh made that label a big deal um broke uh or set a record on the Billboard Hot 100 that has never been broken ever since uh which is five songs on the like number one through five on the Billboard Hot 100 list. Uh what band label what year? Uh this is 1964. I I gotta go Beatles. Honestly that's right. The reason this question got botched was uh I sorry Brent I'm not even giving you a chance uh the question I realized I was it was supposed to be about what label because there's tied to the Apple thing because this is a very funny story where Apple uh so Steve Jobs goes on a retreat and he goes on this like fruitarian diet where he eats only apples. He did a lot of weird shit like that. Yeah and so he comes back and when they're talking about what to name the company he says he's gonna name he wants to name the company Apple and in that discussion they talk about the fact that the Beatles have a record label named Apple Records and like they could run into issues trying to build a company with Apple in the name that way which is exactly what happens Apple Records like sues them they like have to do legal settlements and like hundreds of millions of dollars or like maybe millions of dollars maybe not hundreds um but the fun fact at the end of this trivia question is who the fuck knows about Apple Records no I it's like I had no idea but like it's like Steve Jobs kind of fucking is uh buried him real uh real real real boss in this in this scenario where he's like no I want to do Apple and like now that's the name that that we'll remember forever as a company we're not gonna know Apple when they were the label that had top the top five in the billboard top exactly that's wild. Yeah yeah well fuck that one up but we'll get it with the last one question five okay one of the most beloved films ever made April 1939 it lost money on its first theatrical run it had four different directors during production and almost had its iconic most iconic song cut entirely what movie was it Wizard of Oz all right Brandon you nailed that uh that is correct the Wizard of Oz reshoots and pickup shots were filmed throughout April and May and Over the Rainbow was nearly deleted after test screenings. The studio lost over one million dollars on the initial release it wasn't until the film was televised in 1956 an estimated 45 million people watched that it became the cultural institution it is today the most watched film in history almost never existed in the form we know it and Dorothy almost never got her song.
SPEAKER_03And it's like I just feel like there's so much darkness around that movie with Judy Garland that like she got her on like cigarettes and like they totally jacked her. They fucked her up yeah big time. Yeah is she the one she's she plays the girl in that she's Dorothy and they were having her I don't know if they I don't know if they yeah they had her on like drugs or something to you know I don't know if it was like cocaine or something like that they're giving her to keep her up and keep her filming and yeah it was crazy.
SPEAKER_06Back then that shit was just like Tylenol. Yeah they got it from the pharmacy crazy.
SPEAKER_03Alright cool all right we're rolling into our uh trivia it'll be all be NCAA themed so we're still in it right now so uh kind of kind of simple it's more of a trivia uh style game we'll get back into the unique stuff in a little bit but uh just changing up the scoring a little bit I'll give you the category for the question you have to decide if you want it to be a layup worth two points a three pointer worth three or a Cinderella shot which is worth ten points you get one Cinderella for the tournament. So if you get it so sorry if you choose that it's a layup if you get it right you get two points. If you get it wrong zero points. If you go for a three pointer if you get it right it's three if you get it wrong it's minus one. Make sense? That way you're not just going for three every time and also I think it's worth mentioning that we're tied up right now. Sarav has won two of these and Brandon has won two of these I believe. We've only had four it seems like we've been doing this a lot longer but uh I think that's right. I'd have to go back to either way. So the category is tournament origins. Would you like it to be a layup worth two points or minus zero or three points and minus one.
SPEAKER_02I'll start off with a layup I haven't uh I haven't done my layup line yet warmed up oh we I get to do a different one um yeah actually you know what it might be better going back and forth.
SPEAKER_03We'll do it going back and forth it's fine brand so I go first um yeah who won the very first NCAA tournament in 1939? I'm gonna go with Indiana Indiana is incorrect it's a very weird one Oregon won it first. Man they were nicknamed the Tall Furs. Only eighteen competed in the inaugural bracket. Yeah all right uh Sarav, your category is Dynasty Era layup I'll go three pointer. Three pointer okay which school holds the record for the most men's NCAA titles talk about a layup um I'm gonna overthink this now after Warburton is it no is it I was gonna say is it Challengers I know this was there at this at some point is it UCLA?
SPEAKER_06It is UCLA that's the thing I was worried about I'm like has it changed in the last couple years as other two I'm trying to balance because just like you said you're not as much of a diehard basketball fan so I'm trying to I know enough about uh what is it John Wooden?
SPEAKER_03Like come on okay um UCLA UCLA is the correct answer. They have 11 totals total 10 of those came in a legendary 12 year run under John Wooden. Pretty crazy. All right uh Brandon layup or sorry your category is modern David vs Goliath layup or three pointer?
SPEAKER_02I'll go three pointer.
SPEAKER_03Three pointer all right in 2018 UMBC became the first 16 seed to beat a one seed who was the number one seed they defeated UVA. UVA is correct answer is Virginia a historic 20 point blowout Virginia redeemed themselves by winning the title the very next year. Remember that one well we all right Sarav your category is 1980s icons layup three pointer or Cinderella I'll do another I'll do another three three pointer question Michael Jordan hit the game winning shot for North Carolina in the 1982 championship what jersey number did he wear? I don't remember this I'm gonna go twelve if you had to guess a number from Michael Jordan what would it be? Twenty three. Twenty-three would have been the correct answer really is incorrect.
SPEAKER_06I fully thought that the twenty three came later I didn't know he was rocking the twenty three that time or am I confusing with another player but he was just a freshman at the time playing alongside future Hall of Famer James Worthy.
SPEAKER_03Alright I lose a point all right uh so far Brandon has three Sarrav has two. Brandon your question uh this is I mean really it doesn't matter this is technically round one but these are broad themes for the early tournament but uh your category is West Coast hoops layup three pointer or syndrome West Coast hoops uh I'll go three good call what is the nickname slash mascot of the Gonzaga University basketball team they're the Gonzaga Bulldogs that is correct they've made every tournament since 1999 the longest active streak in the country which is pretty wild.
SPEAKER_02Uh is there is their streak longer than uh than Michigan State's that's wild.
SPEAKER_03I think Michigan State's been have they I don't know I'd have to verify every I hadn't verified every answer for accuracy so I hope so. But uh yeah I saw that Mark Pugh just got raised into the Hall of Fame uh as well which is good for him that you stayed there. Yeah absolutely all right Sarab we're on to the suite 16 and Elite 8 right now tougher questions broader categories so your category is the bench bosses okay layup or three pointer or Cinderella Cinderella you can only use once or once yep and it's worth 10 points. Okay I'm not using or minus five I'm doing layup okay layup it is or your question which coach holds the record for the most total NCAA tournament wins with 101 was it wait tournament wins like like the games games that they've won in the tournament NCAA tournament game wins. Is it Gino Oriema? Gino Oriema is incorrect just for fun brand Brandon do you have a guess? And so so I will say I'm not sure if uh women is included in this so I I doubt it would be it probably would be Gino so I'll give you another guess yeah uh with that information Okay uh knowing that just repeat the question one more time yep which coach holds the record for the most total NCAA tournament wins with 101 is it uh Mike Shushevsky or whatever from Duke that is correct yeah coach K is correct nice he led Duke to 13 final fours across five different decades all right did I get his Dame I've always looked at the spelling but I don't think I've ever said it out loud. Yeah yep uh coach K would have also been uh been accepted as well. All right Brandon your category is perfection. Ooh I'm gonna go layup okay who was the last men's team to finish an entire season undefeated in 1976.
SPEAKER_02Undefeated in 76.
SPEAKER_03For some reason I want to say this is Indiana. Indiana is correct. Yeah they went 32 and oh since then several teams have entered the tournament undefeated but lost the title game lost yeah is this what like the Hoosiers movie was about I don't know if it was a bad never actually about Indiana I don't know if I think uh yeah I'm not sure if it was about that run but um all right Sarav your category is coaching carousel okay current scores Brandon has eight Sarav has four I'm gonna go layup all right name the only coach to win a national championship at two different schools damn I don't know I don't even know if I'd know that many coaches yeah this one's a this one would be a tougher one for a more casual fan.
SPEAKER_06Yeah um I don't know I'm just gonna go Rick Patino correctly odd very odd that you would just stumble across that in my mind in my mind I was like I I feel like I've heard about I've heard about him having like a decorated career but I was like I don't know if St. John's is in my memory as like his example of his other good coaching gig or if he had ones before Louisville but clearly I was onto something.
SPEAKER_03Yeah uh so Rick Petino he cut down the nets with Kentucky in 1996 and Louisville wow I can't even imagine him in Kentucky blue that's crazy Louisville Louisville Louisville Louisville Louisville all right uh Brandon eighth Sarov six Brandon your category is individual scoring feats I'm gonna go lay up I think that's a good call. Who holds the record for the most points scored in a single NCAA tournament game with 61 points. 61 I'll give you a hint that's maybe not so much of a hint the year was 1970.
SPEAKER_02Oh geez okay sixty one points yeah in nineteen seventy man I don't even know what year this would have been I'm gonna go uh is it Pete Maravich pistol Pete? Nope but good guess I like that uh the correct answer is Austin Carr playing for Notre Dame in 1970 he set a record that many analysts believe is unbreakable in the modern era yeah so some teams hardly across 61 points that's wild good for good for Austin Carr who I probably would have guessed never heard yeah I probably would have guessed like I remember Jody Meeks remember Jody Meeks insane games yeah until you gave me the time period I was thinking like a Jimmer Fred or uh one of those like mid-major that's why I wanted to give you the year of like you know good luck.
SPEAKER_03Yeah Austin Carr. All right uh Brandon still with eight Srab six Sorab your category is mid-major magic I'm gonna go layup layup all right in 2018 which eleven seed famously supported by their team chaplain sister Jean reached the final four I remember this too repeat the question one more time in 2018 which eleven seed famously supported by their team chaplain sister Jean reached the final four just waiting for him to just pull it randomly I know well no yeah I I'm just I can't think of like the term I think I have a p a team in mind I think the name I think the team like the college starts with an F.
SPEAKER_06I think their color is purple.
SPEAKER_03If I'm wrong then just tell me um but it's like uh fern something like uh I'm struggling but like they I was watching them play earlier like in this this season too um yeah I don't know I I don't I don't have much okay Brandon just for fun do you do you know who it is Loyola Chicago Loyola Chicago is Loyola Chicago okay I'm thinking of something else I don't know purple team might have been Northern Iowa Ferman that's what I'm thinking of thinking I don't know why they were in my head as maybe the right thing but yeah okay all right cool going into the last round this is uh most cryptic categories the highest stakes round uh so this is for Brandon post play dominance post play dominance remind me of the score the score is eight to six you're up I'm gonna go layup layup or three pointer okay question who is the only player to be named the most the final four most outstanding player three separate times who is Tyler Hansborough Tyler Hansborough is incorrect answer is Lou Al Cinder. Uh yeah dream Abdul Jabbar he was he was so dominant at UCLA that the NCAA actually banned dunking to try and level the playing field. For some reason like I Didn't I didn't connect him being that dominant in college as well. Makes total sense, but that they actually banned dunking because of it. Uh all right. Sarav, uh score still eight to six, Brandon. Your category is rare repeats. All right. Um how many questions are left? We have four questions left, including this one.
SPEAKER_06But like four, like so I only have two more for you, two for me. Two more?
SPEAKER_03You have two more. Yep, including this one. Okay. Um I'll go three. Three-pointer for rare repeats. Question. Before the 2025, 2024, 2025 seasons, which was the last men's team to win back-to-back national titles? Florida. Nice. Florida is correct. That brings Srav up to nine and Brandon at eight.
SPEAKER_06My knowledge, very specific to things I have learned because I watch Yukon, is hilarious. But at least I retain that much. Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03Uh Florida, led by Billy Donovan in 2006 and 2007. The entire starting five returned for the second championship. That's like unheard of the NIL era now. Yeah. I think that's I feel like that will never happen again. All right, Brandon, your category is statistical anomalies.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna go three. Damn it.
SPEAKER_03Maybe. Question. In 1966, Jerry West won the MOP despite his team losing. Who is the only other player to win MOP from a losing team? And I'll give you a hint. It was in 1957. Damn it. That it's it's that's more of a hint than you would think on this one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I just I don't know who would be playing in 1957. Like I like my concept of those eras is so skewed. Like I just know that it was a long time ago. I don't know who was in the 50s. Like that's pre-UCLA, so pre-Olive.
SPEAKER_06I just want to think of the most like 50s cliche name possible. Jackie Stevens.
SPEAKER_02Like I I kinda I want to go back to I want to go back to Pete Maravich and think of that. Trying to think if there's anybody else from the 50s. Is Oscar Roberts Robertson that in that era? I'll stick with Pete Maravich.
SPEAKER_03Pete Maravich is incorrect.
SPEAKER_02Is it Diggo?
SPEAKER_03Think of the only other player that you need to think of from back in the day. Is it Wilk Chamberlain?
SPEAKER_02The still Chamberlain. Damn it. Yeah. Good call.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, he won it in 1957 for Kansas. It remains the only other time the award went to a runner-up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, first.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02I don't know why I have like him and and like Kareem and all of them in the same era, but I guess like 1957's not that far removed from those 60s teams.
SPEAKER_03His hundred-point game was never televised. It wasn't televised.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And that was in the NBA, you know? Right.
SPEAKER_01Crazy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. All right. Uh Sarab, your last question. Your category is tournament evolution.
SPEAKER_06I went second and I'm also getting on. Shouldn't I be the last one?
SPEAKER_03No, I'll come up with another one for you. Okay.
SPEAKER_06I'm going to do layup. Or are you going to tell me the genre or no?
SPEAKER_03Uh did I not? Yeah, tournament evolution. Oh. Sorry. Layup, layup, layup. Either way, I'm playing it conservative. Yeah, yeah. All right. Uh, your question. Since sorry, the score right now, Sarab has nine, Brandon has seven. So tournament evolution, your question. Since what year has the NCAA mandated that the final four must be played in a stadium with a minimum capacity of 40,000 plus?
SPEAKER_01What year? I'm gonna go 1996. Very close. The correct answer is 1997.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. This this change turned the Final Four from a basketball game into a massive super event held in NFL size domes.
SPEAKER_06I was that was kind of well, not that, but like my my estimate was mostly based on like when did certain things become like huge deals on TV that they started to like build up even more. And a lot of that was in our late 90s. In the 90s, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yep. All right. Uh so Brandon, this will be your last question. You are down by two points, nine to seven.
SPEAKER_01Your category is seeding history. You know, I might I might as well use my miracle shot.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna go to the Cinderella shot. Go for 10. Cinderella shot. Only down by two. I know. But then I go up one and I leave it open to him. If I go up ten, he's got to do his miracle shot.
SPEAKER_03That's true. Yep. What is the lowest seed to ever win the entire men's NCAA national championship? There we go. Villanova did it in 1985 by upsetting Georgetown in one of the greatest shooting performances in history. Nice. All right. So that brings Brandon to 17. Sarab, your last question. The category is iconic final seconds. You're down by eight.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I'm using my Cinderella shot.
SPEAKER_03All right, here it comes. Your question: In the 1992 Elite Eight, Duke defeated Kentucky on a legendary full court pass buzzer beater. Who was the Duke player who caught the pass, turned, and hit the shot to win 104 to 103? 1992, you said? 1992.
SPEAKER_06I don't think this is right, but I can't think of anything else. Uh is it Christian Leitner? What?
SPEAKER_03Like what?
SPEAKER_06I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_03Something's fishy about that.
SPEAKER_00Something's fishy about Harveys, man. Yeah. Wait, what was the Leitner?
SPEAKER_03You started doing what is what is that? I know. Because I was gonna say, I can almost hear the people listening to this screaming at you through their listening device.
SPEAKER_00BK yelled so loud. From the future, it came to the past and it's derived.
SPEAKER_06Now, I think you guys are this is my maybe the most like incredible exhibit of why I'm good at trivia, because I have like really like irrational recall. It's never based on like a connecting dot. It's just like this is the name that's coming to me for this. Now, Leitner, in my mind, I'm like, that was definitely a decade later. No way it was 1992. And it's like, all right, well, whatever. Yeah, use that. But in in trivia, you know, the question, like, I don't know, it's usually like always pointing back to like who is what is the most popular thing you can think of in relation to whatever.
SPEAKER_03And so the amplifying in information uh I feel oftentimes gets lost, but uh often called the shot, Latener went a perfect 10 for 10 from from the field and 10 for 10 from the free throw line during during that game. You'd shot 20 shots and made all 20 of them.
SPEAKER_01Jesus. The pass was thrown by Brandon. Sorab, if you pull this out.
SPEAKER_031992. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Who's that? What's his name?
SPEAKER_03You couldn't know.
SPEAKER_04Uh Baddie. No, not Baddie. Uh who's the no? I was gonna say Grant Hill's UNC. I don't I don't know who threw the path.
SPEAKER_03No, Grant Hill's correct.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it was Grant Grant Hill's Grant Duke.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It was fun watching his fun watching the sloma of his reaction to Mullent. Bill Rapper, yeah. Both of them just they zoomed in on Grant Hill's face, and it's actually way more entertaining than you realize. Yeah, both of them were just kind of suspicious almost, his facial expressions. Um, but I mean it's because he's obviously you know had a bias going on. Yeah, he did. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well, cool. Well, man, look at that. Came down to the two Cinderella shots at the end.
SPEAKER_06I can't believe I won the NCAA themed one and that pulled so many answers out of my ass, including like Will Chamberlain.
SPEAKER_03That was great. Yeah. Nice. All right, cool. So Sarab takes the lead now in this series. Three to two. See next week if Brandon can tie it up again. All right, let's uh so question of the week as we bring it to a close here. Yeah. What is what is the best thing your job has given you?
SPEAKER_02I kind of touched on this a little earlier or in a different week when like the flexibility of like the schedule and the balance, like that being being proud of being in that that stage where I'm able to do that.
SPEAKER_03So I'll just like I think more so like what is like what's like doing your job, what has that given you? Not like the the stuff inside of it.
SPEAKER_02Gotcha, gotcha, got like what like this. You getting that job.
SPEAKER_03What has your job, yeah, what has that? So I yeah, I can give you the uh what I thought about this. Mine's kind of easy, but my job has given me a confidence in uh airport travel and how that system works. Because I think for most people it's kind of you know, it's kind of ambiguous and um you kind of just like pick like the cheapest flight and things like that. Whereas like I now have so much more information about hubs and airlines that fly out of hubs and how much that makes a difference if you're going from, you know, A, knowing what airport you're flying out of, whose hub that is, that that's more likely to get you to connect to other places a lot easier. Just like in general, air travel uh can be pretty daunting and intimidating if you don't do it very often. And so I feel like with my job, I have a great understanding that I did not know until I got this job. I now have a great understanding of it. I feel confident, comfortable uh traveling around, which as I should, but it was something that I didn't realize I didn't know. I didn't realize how much I didn't know until I got this job. Um about how much that stuff matters. It makes a difference.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So from from that perspective, that's uh mine's giving me kind of two different things that are kind of the opposite sides of the spectrum. Uh and it's kind of like as it relates to pharmaceutical companies and their reputation and kind of how everything happens. And I know like drug pricing is like a big hot topic and like a big political thing from like the business side of things. Like I get why on the one hand, like I totally understand like the humanitarian piece of it, but then on like the business side of things, totally understand from the pharma side of things because there's so much money that gets poured into research that goes absolutely nowhere, or so much money that gets poured into research that is for like these orphan drugs and these orphan diseases that that there's no way that you're gonna like see any type of of profit from it. And I know big pharma gets a really big bad rat, a lot of it justified and and like I get it, like making money off of something like this is always gonna be like a steevy thing to do. But like the reality of the situation is that if if if none of that money came through, most of the advances that we found would would just never have happened because there's there's stuff that comes through that has funded so much other like good work. Interesting. Um so being able to like see that side of things is is is good. Um and the other thing is is that again, like big pharma is heartless in a lot of different ways, but there's so much that is done that like really looks at the real impact it makes for patients, and that there's a a lot of things out there and a lot of work that's done from from pharma companies where that it's it's not all just a numbers game. There there is is a lot of um different considerations and and initiatives and things that they'll do to to look at the real impacts that patients' lives have because of the the pharma research, drug research that goes and goes into things. So and in a lot of ways, patients do stay at the at the the center of things, even though it doesn't always seem that way.
SPEAKER_03Wow, that's like very surprisingly wholesome. Yeah. You know, I think big pharma gets a terrible rap from I mean for people that don't know exactly like what you were saying, it's all about what's reported in the media and it's all very negative about how much big big pharma controls this stuff, and it's all about you know the dollars and not about the people. So it's very interesting that you have a different perspective that the people are, you know, at the center of things, that they are.
SPEAKER_02In a lot of ways. Like I like I don't I don't want to come off as saying that like that I think that they're saints and that they're doing like the the work solely for that reason. I I completely understand and sympathize with all the criticism. All of it is justified. I'm sure there's like lobby lobbying that's going on in the back rooms that is is not wholesome and is not great, but that I it's not all that. And I think that there's uh in the the the work that I'm able to do, I I get exposed to more of the good than the bad. Um so like being able to see the good and knowing that it's it's there and that it there is a a lot of good that comes out of drug research and um and and and in the pharma world, even though there's there's so much bad to it, it's not it's not all that way.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_02That's good to hear.
SPEAKER_03I like that. Yeah. And also you answering that made me realize that a better wording of this question would have been what's something that your job has taught you that you didn't know about beforehand. Would have been a better way of of wording it. Yeah, maybe. Uh so yeah, Sarav, you know, something along those lines.
SPEAKER_06Aaron Powell Mine is kind of consistent with the themes of yours too, in that um I don't know. I don't know if like I continue my personal theory is that I've ended up in my job situations largely by chance. You know, it's where the opportunity was, it's where I applied myself, and I did well enough that I'm getting to continue doing this. Uh all that being said, I'm sitting there and I'm like, it's I'm pretty lucky to have been in tech. Uh, because it's allowed me to uh be ahead of like most of the world on like what's coming. Uh it's allowed me to smarten up on these things before people in like a mainstream way encounter it, um, which I appreciate. Like it's just kind of interesting to get to do that. Um I do genuinely wonder, I'm like, yeah, if I had just like gotten some other job somewhere else in some other industry, would I just not be doing this? Would I have found my way here? I have no idea, but it is like it is uh very rewarding, just in that, like, you know, I'm having to understand like incredibly complicated and difficult like things, and also understand what our relationship to the future is because of these things. Um, so like I've I find like myself lucky not only in the way that I've gotten smarter because of it, but in ways that I can kind of I don't know, see some pieces of the future. Not that we can ever predict what's gonna happen. Everything could be, you know, sideways any moment. But uh being able to like see what's going on in the economy, being able to see the software and AI and solutions that are coming out that people can use and and know that like, okay, uh, I think here's what might be the case in two or three years. Here's what looks like it could be normal, and here are companies that are basically about to be obsolete, and here are companies that uh we should probably try to invest in if you can, like kind of thing. So um, yeah, a bit of a composite there, but yeah.
SPEAKER_03Nice. Yeah, uh two questions. One, did are you in the sector that you're at because that's what you were interested in, or is that where you were placed, and this is all kind of a happy byproduct of you want to get there?
SPEAKER_06I think it's the latter. Um I'm where I am mostly because of uh some incredible uh women mentors. Women tours. Oh women. Uh who broads. That's exactly some some some some incredible broads. Some incredible broads. Uh honestly though, it is it is facts. Like uh I'm I've only gotten where I am in my career because of uh some like incredible women who took me under their wing um and like let me flourish and like then kind of almost like nudged me towards other things to do. And that's truly the only reason I'm eating like in my job now, you know. Um I feel like I'm very boring in that way that uh I've never even had not boring, I've just never had the chance to even like search for a job out of the blue and figure that out. Like outside of the first job I ever had, you know, which was an unpaid internship. But like ever since that unpaid internship, like every job I've had since then has been like someone who took me under their wing going somewhere else and saying, Hey, you should come here, and so on and so on and so forth. And I'm also a loyalist, like it's not like I jump around a lot. So again, you know, two years of my first job, eight and a half years of my next job, coming up on like, you know, two and a half on this job. Um, but it's always because I, you know, followed these people who are mentors to me. Um, so yeah, like it's it's it's it's a very happenstance, but I'm also kind of like, thank fucking god it played out this way.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, my my my other question is that you say that you have more intimate knowledge of these companies and where they're going and how they're doing um like as a whole. Do you, I don't even know, do you like I don't know if you invest, but have you ever used those, you know, have you uh I don't know, it's not like insider trading because it's not like you're getting, it's just like, hey, you have an idea of where this company's going or not going, and have you used that uh and has that been uh beneficial to you on that side as well?
SPEAKER_06Uh yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think beneficial is hard to read right now in the state of the world and like where the stock markets are. But uh am I pretty confident largely that I'm I've invested in the right things? Absolutely. Uh and when I say it's not about like me knowing companies intimately, it's about me being able to look at like what all of my clients are doing, what all of the brilliant minds I'm exposed to are talking about, and being able to read, like, okay, based on that, like these kinds of companies, they're gonna crash and burn. Like they're not long for this world. And these kinds of companies are gonna be the new thing. Um, and so my investments that I've made that again are not like that amazing right now, um, have just been like knowing, like, well, this is gonna be a need, and here's a sector that is supplying something that is gonna help fill that need. Um, I mean, not that this is like groundbreaking information for you guys, but like I like I I've put money into like a semiconductor or like yeah uh ETF, right? Like those kinds of things where I'm like, yeah, we're gonna need fucking chips, man. Like I don't care what's going on, like if this is the direction we're going, we're gonna need chips.
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SPEAKER_06So stuff like that, um, I have done and it I do think I've I've benefited from it at the end of the day. We'll see what the next couple of years uh suggests. But like long-term picture, like yeah, I'd like to think that you know I've gotten to make some some good calls because of what I uh have been exposed to.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah, I think that's that's always interesting is that like it's like the byproducts of your job that you went into it for a certain reason, but like the other benefits that you get for being at that job are not as evident when you start. But then like as you're there longer, you're like, oh man, I've really learned a lot of stuff that I didn't know I was gonna learn from this. You know, yeah. That's cool. Uh all right. I think that uh I think that wraps it for us for this episode. You guys have anything else to add before we head out? Uh go UConn. I don't know. Yeah, figured that was coming. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I don't know. I don't know how it's gonna work out, but Final Four weekend coming up. I'm excited.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I'm more of a go basketball type of guy right now.
SPEAKER_06Just watch the games no matter what. I agree with that, right? Like I also, you know, I'll take a W over everything, but like yeah, like when we played like was it Purdue Butler that one time and it was like super boring. Um which one? The championship game? It might have been a championship game, and it was like I think Cambo was still in it, but like it was just a very boring game. Uh but yeah, I I'm still always, you know, a fan of like an actual exciting game. Uh so we'll see.
SPEAKER_03Cool. All right. Uh yeah, that brings it to an end here. Enjoyed you guys. Listen, hope you guys enjoyed it as well. Hope everyone has a good weekend watching the tournament games and everything else that you have going on. Hope it's uh hope it all treats you well. So with that, we're signing off. Hope you have a good one, and we'll talk to you again next week.
SPEAKER_01See ya.
SPEAKER_03See ya. Bye.