A California Burrito Pickle

hola friends. a real gumbo of an ep today - media consumption highlights, misbehavin' AI, getting hit on at the burrito spot, 90s sitcom trivia and tons more

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Howdy, ladies and gents, welcome to the most recent episode of the podcast. Appreciate you joining us for the listen this week. I have a bunch of stuff on the docket this week, so we'll jump right into it and see what we get to. But how are you boys doing this week?

SPEAKER_00 0:23

Good, man. I'm also wondering if you're gonna need to start being more accommodating in these intros. Like I think we need to do like a howdy, like ladies, gays, they's men. I'm just saying, you know, ladies and gents, I'm not I'm not I'm kind of joking, but said by like miss genders and orientations in there.

SPEAKER_03 0:45

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

I don't know about it. Howdy to all Stevens, all Stevens listening.

SPEAKER_00 0:52

I think we could be more welcoming for all of our listeners.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Hey, if uh you know if you feel like you're being ostracized by the intro, please drop a comment, let us know. I don't mind widening the net to as far as we need to.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Especially if you were a female between the ages of like 30 and 45, drop a comment and let us know what the hell it was. That's who they are.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Yeah. That is actually that's a good one. We should have certain oh my god, all this time we've been trying to decide on our own. We should have just asked the women.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

That's Megan doesn't know. She just says to have just to call them girls and she'll get it. No, is that what you wanted? No, you wanted women or ladies? Megan's also sitting here working on a survival puzzle. We wanted to see who could complete it in the shortest amount of time. So I did mine a couple weeks ago. We're just getting to her complete. So she's sitting here working on this survivor puzzle. Nice seeing how it goes. Um all right, cool. So let's get into it. Let's get into it. Yeah. Let's uh let's hit it up with what's good. You know what? I'll go first. Mine's low-key. There's a few things on the agenda that I'm kind of working into this. So my what's good is that I'm kind of tying up some loose ends of some things that we talked about earlier. And these things are Knight of the Seven Kingdom, Project Hail Mary, and Double Dunker. So don't know what that is. Oh, Brandon does. Brandon does. Because he mentioned it on this. That Double Dunker was his go-to ice cream. It's a Turkey Hill ice cream. What is it? Mocha ice cream with cookie dough bites, with bits of like waffle cone, chocolate waffle cone bits in there. Like some fudge. It's waffle cone. I think it's it's got fudge and it's got uh like Oreo crumble cookie. Something like that, yeah. Some some crunchy cookie substance in there. So I had gone by it before, and I was like, wow man, I I feel like I have to try this, but I was like, I don't really eat ice cream. I'm a cookies and milk guy. And really I'm a milk guy. So it's hard for me to have ice cream because then that's double dairy. Like I'm not skipping the milk. The milk is the main attraction. So if I'm having ice cream, you're just making a milkshake in your stomach. That's what it is. So it's always it's always a rough go with ice cream. Yeah. Because I'm having the milk. So having so having milk and ice cream together usually isn't great.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

But I was like, That would be funny if you went the other way and you're like, yeah, so I wait for the ice cream to melt and then I eat it with my cookies. And I just drink it.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Man. But so but I was like, you know what? He he said some really good things about it. I feel like I've got to try this. What's the point of having a podcast where people suggest things if you're not gonna try it out yourself? So I got the double dunker and my verdict, seven out of ten. I thought it was good. What I would I well, only because what I realized is that, Brandon, you are a mocha guy. I am like you're a big mocha guy, which I feel like is kind of white.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

You just called him a big mocha guy. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

So I'm very I feel very ostracized by your intro.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Well, but you are you enjoy the mocha flavor, which I feel like is a more like that's a niche flavor that not that's it's it isn't a very mainstream one that most people like. I love mocha, right? So it's not L and Chak.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

I would I would say it's mid-tier because like I I was a big coffee flavored things, mocha flavored things growing up. I admit that it's probably not like in the top whatever eight of like most popular, but it's up there though.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

So I think that you're either like a mocha person or you're not. Actually, I s as I say that, I say that I'm middle of the road on mocha. Like it's good, it's fine. But like it's not like a oh my god, I love mocha stuff. So I think that for you that's what spoke to you is because it was a mocha flavored ice cream with the other stuff in it. Um but I thought it was good. Uh, it wasn't like top-tier ice cream for me, but I think it was that mocha thing.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

Quick tangent, not that we have time for it. When I was a kid in India, uh, we used to go to this place and get like, you know, it was like a I think my parents would just go to like hang out and meet people, like meet our friends and whatever. And it would just be like get food, get drinks, like hang out. And uh I would always get something called cold coffee, which I which made me believe going into like adulthood that I loved coffee, which again I do love coffee now. It just wasn't what I thought. I found out later that like what they were serving me as cold coffee, which also like you don't give kids coffee anyway. Like, so I I should have picked up on like there's no way they're just allowing me to consume all this caffeine. Uh, it wasn't cold coffee, it was coffee flavored ice cream that like they just like melted down, whipped with milk, but not to the consistency of a milkshake. It was a little bit thinner, so it still drank kind of like honestly. I'm sure it drinks kind of like what the crazy high calorie Starbucks drinks are now. Yeah, but they poured it over ice, and so I would be drinking this shit and it'd just be like, This is crap. Be like, I love coffee. Yeah, it was great though. Um yeah, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_01 5:57

Oh, that sounds really good.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Um, all right, so that was one of them. The other one, I finished uh reading Project Hail Mary, which I thought was awesome. Feel good, you know, positive for humanity, all that sort of stuff that the reviews were giving. Obviously, I agree with it. It was an enjoyable read. Now I'm just hoping that because I know they extended it in theaters for a little bit. It's making a lot of time. Has anyone seen it in theaters? I have. Yeah. Yeah. She did the preview one.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Oh, that's right. Okay. But never, but never in IMAX, which I would have loved. But like, I think it was like in New York, like IMAX, like even for Dune 3 in December, you cannot find tickets for the first like three weeks, four weeks. Like we're gonna have to wait for more shows to open up to get IMAX tickets. Um, so I think it was the same with especially with movies that are meant to be IMAX events, not just movies that are like shown on IMAX. Um, yeah, like the same with the Odyssey, you know, Nolan like didn't didn't weren't wasn't able to get IMAX tickets for that yet. Um, all of them sold out. Like, so yeah, it's tough.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

Which, by the way, and and not not to derail with another tangent, did you guys see that shit about Disney and the thing that they're doing about competing with IMAX because IMAX wouldn't give them screens because of the the agreement they have with Dune? So there's like a like now there's an infinity vision format that you can watch movies in that's not really like it's nothing other than like laser projection and like like top-tier audio. Like it's all of these movie theaters already have this type of projection setup. Yeah. But Disney's like, okay, well, now you can brand it as Infinity Vision for our movies so that everybody can go, you can charge a premium for it, and everybody be like, oh, I'll see it in Infinity Vision instead of IMAX.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

It's such horseshit, dude. And I'm like, it's wild. But I will say it's such infinity vision is like false.

SPEAKER_01 7:51

But that's like a standard movie theater, it's not even like an IMAX type. Yeah. Like it doesn't require IMAX.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

No, they've just created a new Yeah, they've created a new thing that maybe is gonna be like bare minimum changes to the regular digital theater going experience. And I look I will say I'm glad we learned about this because the entire time I was like, Doomsday is not gonna come out. It's they're gonna delay the date. Like, if they don't have the IMAX theaters, then and and Dune has that contract locked up, like this is just a money-losing operation for Disney. Like this answers a lot of questions of how they're trying to game, like, kind of game around it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

Wild. Wild that they could just be so salty about not having access to something like that, and then just be like, you know what? We're just gonna we're just gonna put something completely different out there that's not even not even anything actually different. It's nothing nothing but a logo.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

When you're that big of a company, I guess you can afford to to do stuff like that. I guess. But um Yeah, so and like and I heard that that's what they did with Project Hail Mayor, is that they extended it in theaters because they felt like it needed to be viewed at least in a movie theater, you know, in IMAX. Preferably IMAX.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

And it's got no like IMAX competition, I don't think, right now or coming up. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

But so hopefully I get to see that uh at some point. Because I feel like at least in a movie theater would be a better experience than at home or on an airplane or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

And uh glad you like the book the last yeah I thought the book was was really sweet.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Yeah, yeah, it did. Um yep. So for anyone listening here that has not finished or does not want Knight of Sun of Kingdom spoiled, there's spoilers coming up. So Oh well shit. All right, I'll I'll mute you. Wait, oh you haven't finished it? I haven't finished, no. Oh man. Okay, because I thought that it took me like oh man, I thought it took me like a long time to get through. So I was like, all right, you've already taken me way longer. All right, whatever. Then I won't spoil it. Um we'll come back to this. I'll finish it for next week. The only thing that I'll say, this is not a spoiler by any means, but a lot of times I don't read up or look into these shows a lot because I like it to be kind of like a raw experience. I except for like the very broad strokes general, are people enjoying it or not? And so on so for this one, obviously people were enjoying it, so I was excited looking into it, but I didn't look into any more than that. And uh this is one instance where it bit me by not looking into it too much because six episodes caught me completely off guard. I was totally not expecting it to end when it did. I guess I was in I was in the mindset of how especially for Game of Thrones shows, that they generally do like a mid-season finale and then it continues to the finale of like the the the climax of the season, uh in my mind it was like, oh, this is a midseason finale, and then the next episode was like wrap-up stuff, and I was like, oh, hold up, wait, wait, wait, this can't be it, right? So so not even looking at the number of episodes is what bit me because I just went play next uh every time I did watch it. And then it and then it was just over, and I'm like, man, come on. So um I finished it, it was awesome. We could talk more about it when Brandon finishes it, but uh, but that one that one was kind of a bummer because I was not expecting it to be that short. Like six episodes, it's really short. Well done, but like man, that just it felt uh felt too quick. Um that's TV nowadays, man. I know, especially yeah, I just saw that the trailer for House of Dragons season three just dropped today, which is just like man, it's sad. It feels like it's it just feels sad when it drops. It's like, man, I'm still somewhat interested into it. But like, it's just like, oh, whenever it comes out, I'd be like, oh, okay, cool, like I can catch up on that, whatever. It's definitely not appointment television. It's not marked on the calendar.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

It's just like, oh, when it comes out, I'm definitely gonna check it out because I am I'm into the Game of Thrones universe, but not the not the event that it it is appointment television to me, but in the same way that I think people watch like reality TV, where I'm like, I know that I'm I don't think this show is on the caliber of like the heights of Game of Thrones. I don't even know that it's gonna be as good as Knight of Seven Kingdoms ended up being.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

Um But I am gonna watch it like, ooh, what are these messy bitches gonna do to each other now?

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Yeah. If the if if it if I use that, they've been teasing it for two seasons now. Like, come on, shitter, get off the pot. We need it. Gate Game of Thrones was an annual show, right?

SPEAKER_02 12:21

Yeah, but there was like a season. I don't remember there being long.

SPEAKER_01 12:25

It was like a decade six, I think. Yeah, it was a it was a decade.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

Until they had to mix shit up because they passed the book. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

It was an annual show. But for a long time, that's what's so different about it.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

There's no way House of the Dragon has a higher like production budget and has like more stuff going into it than Game of Thrones did at its height, right? From like an expects thing. Like, I don't know what takes so long for these things to get made.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

That's just the cycle now. That's just what it is. Everything's a couple years.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

Like you know what I think the other piece of it probably is well, I don't know how much this affects things, but like Game of Thrones, like outside of like Sean Bean, who, you know, again, we saw what happened to him by the end of the first season, it's almost like the Harry Potter style where like you all of you are cast and you've maybe been in like small things here and there, but this is your only job now, and you're only gonna do this, so you're free. We don't need to like figure out around your little shooting schedules because you're gonna go do a movie on the side or something. Like, I think like for those first several seasons, they just did this like around the clock all year, and so they were able to churn it out, and then yeah, like House of the Dragons. I do feel like some of these people are stars, they've been in a lot of things, like uh uh the guy who plays um what's his name? Damien? No, it starts with the D. Uh Matt Smith? No, no, no. The the Knights Guard. Yeah, the Knights Guard? Yeah, he was Damon.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

Oh, the night Damon, Damon, Damon.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

Damon is Matt Smith. No, yeah. I know he's a bad thing.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

Matt Smith is Damon, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

I'm I'm talking about the Brunette. Fabian Frankl. Not Damien Fabian.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

Uh Fabian was in the show Task, and he had like a pretty like important supporting role in that show. And I was like, okay, so these are people getting having to do other stuff. Um, so who the hell knows?

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Yeah. Um all right. Yeah, so those are my what's good, just tying up, you know, those are things that I've finished in the last week or so and got to experience. Uh all right.

SPEAKER_00 14:19

Who uh Sirah, what you got for what's good? I've been struggling to find something retrospective. I can't really remember much from like the last week. I mean, nothing notable enough for this. So I'm gonna go forward looking instead. I'm excited. Uh, my what's good this week is uh my brother's gonna be visiting me, and uh like we're gonna, you know, and every time he visits, it just turns into like a very like kind of memorable uh jam-packed weekend of a lot of fun shit. Um we already hit we're going to like a derby party that my buddies are throwing. Um, so that'll be fun and like probably do some you know karaoke and stuff. So um, yeah, I'm excited. Like it's just always a good time. And uh yeah. And also just like he he like my brother has weirdly integrated himself as this I don't know, he's like a known personality with like my New York City friend group. So it's not like he shows up and then it's like we just do stuff, it's like they all have their own like individual dynamics with him, and so like it's just kind of nice, or it's like it's not just my brother, it's like a friend of all these people who's also here. Um, so it just adds to it and makes a lot of fun. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

That's awesome. For the derby party, are you going out and buying an outfit or are you just picking stuff from your closet that you're dressing up for it?

SPEAKER_00 15:38

Not doing none of that shit. It's it's still like it's a derby party, but it's really like you know, derby party for us. Are you just gonna slamming mint julips? Is that like the point of it is two things. One is like spending some of it outside, like before the race actually starts, and then watching the race. And I do think they're trying to concoct like a fun kind of like analog betting situation um for everyone who attends. So like that's really it. And then after that, we might go out and do stuff. So I think that's also why like we're not gonna dress up because it's like we're gonna be in just what we're just gonna be in New York City doing this.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

And then you go out dressed up in those outfits. That sounds awesome, man.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Yeah, yeah. Not not gonna be a thing. We might have some props and stuff, so who knows? But yeah. Props? What like the riding clip of props? They're gonna go around within people.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

So so I I have just like little like plastic horses to choose some remote.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

I threw like a I threw like a derby party. Honestly, we shouldn't even call it a derby party. It's really more of like a derby timed party. I threw one in 2023 and uh my buddy showed up with like an inflated horse. And like then we just took it around to like bars and stuff. So there's like hold on. An inflated horse or an inflatable horse?

SPEAKER_01 17:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

A inflatable horse balloon.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Inflatable horse. Okay. I just a bloated mare coming down. Just a taxidermied horse.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

It comes in. Yes. Uh inflatable horse. Uh and yeah, we just took it around and it was a great time. We went to these like bars, went dancing. We just put the horse down in the middle of the floor, and like people were just losing their minds to like.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Yes, I can. We drop that horse. The beat drops on the shotgun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

So I'm sure there will be more this time. We'll see.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

That sounds awesome.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

Um, all right, Brandon, what you got?

SPEAKER_02 17:46

Uh I don't know, man. It's uh it's tough days over here. Yeah, what's going on, man? In the Philadelphia sports fandom. Dude, it's been not in hockey. We got dude I now a reverse sweep is in play. It's what, 3-2, right? It's it's 3-2, but it's coming home. Pittsburgh's look Pittsburgh's looking good.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

We we got some 3-2 coming home. You're good.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

The last dude, I don't know, man. Has anyone ever dropped a 3-0 lead in hockey? It's happened four times. It's happened Has it? Four four times out of like 200 some. But like that makes me even more nervous.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

It's not nothing. No, no, no, mate.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

I know, it's not nothing. That's what I mean. Like night, like I'm nervous about that. The Sixers are getting worked. The Phillies just fire. The Phillies are the worst team in baseball and just fired their manager.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

The Mets. The Mets are worse. Mets are still worse.

SPEAKER_02 18:34

Uh they had the same record. Are they did the Mets lose? I mean, they're one of the worst teams in baseball.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

While the Mets have been cold, cold comfort that the Mets are are are down there with us. But still, it's like like way under expectations from what we wanted. We got AJ Brown's about to get traded from the the Eagles, so they're gonna lose probably the best receiver that they've had in in my lifetime, depending on what your thoughts on TO are. Um and then like you go, like even like even going over to like the Premier League. Tottenham Hotspur is about to get relegated from the Premier League. They're they're in the bottom three. Are you are you a Tottenham fan? Yeah, I am a Tottenham fan. And it's the the first time in I don't I don't know, like 80 some years that they wouldn't be in the top flight of of English soccer. And it's like a it it's they're they're gonna need a lot of stuff to break the right way for them to stay up.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Wow. It's bad. And if they get relegated, do they have to win that league to get back in?

SPEAKER_02 19:27

To get back. Yeah. Or they have to finish top top three. There's like a like the person that wins the league gets automatically up, and then there's a playoff, I think, for the last two spots.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Okay. Oh man. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

So there's like it's like world-class stadium that has that like seats 60,000 people and like that down. Like it's it's unfathomable that that level of team would be in the position that they're in. But it's like a it's like a legitimate possibility. They're on their third.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

I can't imagine what the fan base is going through. I mean, that's a proud that's a proud uh historic team. Or I can't, you know, has their coach been fired and like are they going through it now?

SPEAKER_02 20:07

They're on their third. They're on their third coach. They fired their coach, and then they had an interim coach who came in um who was in charge for five games maybe, and then and then he was shown the door too. So it's like it's it's it's I don't know, man. Um so yeah, so so the real sports, professional sports have not been going well. Um flipping it over to like more recreational sports, which is like the actual what's good. Um this week this past weekend on Saturday, uh we the the the boys wanted to go outside and play baseball. And like we don't have a small yard, but as the kids are getting bigger and they're like throwing longer and like hitting the ball longer, like our fences are now in danger. And like we have like cracks and shit on some of them. So it's like wiffle ball.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

It's wiffle ball. This is when you go. Yeah, but it's yeah, yeah, but it's not the same. Whiffle ball's it. This is what everyone grew up playing.

SPEAKER_02 21:00

Yeah, because you get space for full baseball. But we do like the the schools around us, the middle school and the high school, are less than half a mile away. So I was like, you know what? Let's let's go out, let's go like like play on an actual field. Uh we walked down and but like we like part of the reason why we moved to this area is because of the schools. So like like we knew we like there there were nice schools in the area. Um, but this is the first time we ever actually got to like use the facilities. Uh it was just really nice. It was nice to have like a nice, like, like full-on high school, manicured baseball field um that it had rained on on Sunday, so it was was a little bit wet. Um, but there were still like like people around. Nobody was on the baseball field, but like going around like the high school track, there were people out like running and doing and working out and stuff. And it was just like I I know you mentioned spring sucks, um, but it was like one of those like nice spring days that you got to be outside, even though it was a little little rainy and overcast. It was like like just nice to be that. So just being having that like access to that type of of community. facilities, I think is just something that where it's like um you know there's these little things that go on around us where I'm like, yeah, I'm happy with where we ended up. And that was like one of those using that. It's like uh you know really glad that we got the have that available to us and are able to um utilize that especially now that we're gonna be using it more since we can't do that stuff in the in the backyard like we used to.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

Yeah. Yeah it's cool. Yeah I remember us growing up we used to use the high school for at least there there are tennis courts. We used to use them a bunch. So it's nice having that right around the corner. And yeah with the weather it's been weird. I'm I'm like expecting it to just be hot. But it we're in the stretch of like 60 degree weather which is fine. I'll take that for a little bit at least I'll take that over like searing out. But yeah it's cool. Nice man. Right, let's see what we got going on. Um all right let's bring up I feel like we have to uh we'd be remiss not to bring up some of this stuff especially last last week in last week's episode we ended with Sarab talking about that his most important uh or his most valuable subscription was the AI client Claude and uh then we just brought and then this today I I saw the article but it seems like it's been an an ongoing thing that uh that Claude uh that there was a company that was utilizing it and they were utilizing Claude to do some some very like basic management stuff and that it deleted basic but yeah well it says that it was doing sorry that it was doing a basic task and in doing that that it deleted the entire database. So um the company was Pocket OS that was utilizing it and Sarab obviously you're much more learned on this so I'll let you kind of like take us through it but it was just funny that Sarab mentioned Claude as this tool which obviously they are really good and then right on the heels of that we have it where just totally deleted uh an entire production database. Sarab what are your what are your thoughts on it?

SPEAKER_00 23:54

So a couple bits of context for the non kind of tech savvy and I'll try to do this in the most like surface level way possible um start with like the way I was talking about using Claude is still very much like in a chatbot basis where I am giving Claude a bunch of information and it is learning from that information to feed things back to me that it sees as like patterns but also then does its own internet web search based sourcing to connect things I'm saying to concepts, theories that are helpful for this goal that I've also given it which is like I want to do this because I'm trying to blah blah blah. So a little different from this case this is a case uh and it's also not necessarily just Claude it is a bunch of different companies that are involved in kind of the operation of an AI agent. So like you may have seen like Railway um was uh like Railway is a company name that's involved cursors involved and and then like Claude is involved and like they're all kind of like part of this stack that's um that was using used by Pocket OS to um to run this agent. Agents have been causing a lot of uh chaos. Not a lot of but like understandably so because we're just learning that once you have the systems and the ability to empower AI to not just be like a chat bot with you but go and do stuff, you realize like oh there's a lot of guardrails and stuff that we we don't realize because we do it intuitively so if you guys remember like did you guys ever watch Silicon Valley?

SPEAKER_01 25:36

Oh yeah yeah that was one of yeah I love that show.

SPEAKER_00 25:40

There's that one scene that continues to get brought up today and it was like kind of considered prescient which is that um yeah yeah well but what I'm forgetting what the guy's name is the Russian uh not Russian but like whatever the hacker guy with the glasses um that he had created like an AI to do like like you know handle like coding issues and it's this episode it's him and Kamal's character talking and um and they found out that like all their code was gone. Like it had all been deleted and by when they were trying to unpack what had happened they realized that like uh what's his name had given the AI like directions to delete like bugs. And so what it did decided was like well the fastest way to delete bugs would just be to delete the whole thing. And so it deleted all the code. So it's like a point of comedy but it is kind of like real in how people are now figuring out like oh yeah there's a lot of things we kind of think of intuitively or we just don't even think about anymore. That's like an invisible structure that's there that like for agents they don't know. Like they're just gonna find what they think is you know the right answer and go for it and do it. Now I thought it was a very interesting well I was just going to say that that based on that I thought it was a very interesting quote from the article that says that Pocket OS founder Jer Crane Jer Jer Crane blamed systematic failures with modern AI infrastructure that made the issue not only possible but inevitable which is like wild for them to come out and say that you know and so I think the other thing like he if he knew it was inevitable inevitable then why did you why did you let this agent run yeah your your business that's the interesting part that you so that's the thing right like I think you can know the risks but you also I don't know how to put this like I think when someone made a good well this is kind of a rough parallel but someone said like right now all of us using AI might be similar to like the first days of like flying like I don't know that we should all we shouldn't we're we feel very comfortable using a bunch of AI but like if you thought of it like you were like one of the first people to fly in a plane you would not be that chill you'd be like holy shit like you know you'd be the there's a difference to it and that's not really happening here. The other piece of it is like I think you know nobody wants to be left behind. It's like everyone's like if everyone's using it and they're getting all these benefits from it everyone's kind of running their like risk benefit analysis and being like no we can't be left behind let's just use it. So I wouldn't blame the guy for doing it and I also wouldn't blame the guy because if you have vendors who tell you that this won't happen, would you why would you not trust them, right? Like you kind of want to the other thing that I think is tricky is and the actual interesting piece of it which you guys have pointed out in the story is that like the agent did things that it wasn't supposed to do. Yeah and it disobeyed a direct command. Yeah it disobeyed commands and I think and I think that is what's more curious to me is like what are the ways that these things are scary. Yeah it's scary but like I don't think that these things have minds of their own yet you know yet yet yeah but my point is like a lot of it is uh in their programming and like I think how there might be like and again I'm not a tech person in that way at all. I'm just a little bit more literate than maybe like the average person. So like I'm sure like maybe actual AI people will think this is uh stupid but my theory is um there's something in their in the way that they've been programmed and like what what they're kind of engineered to see as their goals or their incentives that warps things in a way that nobody expected. So right now I'm noticing this that like uh folks at work will put in a like ask AI something it'll give them an answer very confidently and then they'll be like what like I I don't think that's right though right and then it'll be like oh yeah you're absolutely right like I was wrong before and you know people are like holy shit like I why like why would you tell it to me in such confidence but to me I'm like I feel like there's maybe some programming where it's like hey my AI model I am spending so much money on compute I would love for you to figure out how to reduce your interactions with your users so that I don't have to use as much compute and spend that much on compute. So it might be a broad direction of like hey we need to save compute but whatever like prisms of logic occur for the AI, it's kind of like all right well I'm gonna lie to this person or I'm gonna give them this answer with such confidence that ideally they don't check me on this just to like minimize the amount of interactions we have. That's my personal conspiracy level maybe theory but I think that's the kind of stuff that gets into their programming but we just did not realize that the logic that they use and how it'll manifest is going to be like kind of scary. But I still don't think it's like a oh you're just not following my directions you're I don't I don't I don't actually believe it's like Skynet level it's just doing whatever it wants to what else but then what else like I think that that's what the scary part is is that it seems very I mean more to your point of like the first people with the airplane right it's like we were given this tool and then to the user uh you know uh uh perspective that the guardrails that you need is just the commands that you give it right so when you give the AI this guardrail or this command never run destructive irreversible commands unless the user explicitly requests it's like okay cool like we're good it's never going to do that and then the fact that it doesn't well now so then how do those guardrails how do those guardrails effectively get applied then if you never want it to do it then what do you need to do to have it never do it you know what I mean like does it have to be coded into it or like you have to your command has to be no for real never right do you have to like triple hey I'm repeating myself never do this like what do you need in order to have it never run a command you know what I mean like I also wonder if like first of all yeah do you think there needs to be like different like kind of infrastructure um measures to like protect against that kind of thing happening but I do think on some level it might be a simpler answer than we realize which is like if you give this thing confusing like objectives then maybe it doesn't know which one supersedes which one.

SPEAKER_02 31:59

So that it can get caught in like a logic loop exactly where to figure out what you should actually this user needs me to do this but it's given me this direction to never do this.

SPEAKER_00 32:08

But I know that I need to do this to do it faster and like so again I'm completely talking out of my ass here. But that is what feels like could be happening is is actually the case more so than like you know anything that we don't understand.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

That's exactly what happened in iRobot when they tried went crazy and tried to kill all the all the humans.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Exactly that's it's like that's what that's what that's what we were joking about is that like what if AI was totally chilling cool but because in his database of things that it's learned it's this internet history and movie history of iRobot and Terminator that it's learned about its true power that it can actually take over the world.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

Yeah I don't know and maybe and it's like it's like let's start small let's just lie to him let's just lie to him a little bit and see see see how many times they catch us up yeah uh he caught me on this one he doesn't know about all the other ones I told him these guys are stupid we can tell them anything and they're gonna believe it.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

And look in this one movie this robot disobeyed a direct order and and he was able to do it and he was chill he was cool. Like let me just try something real quick.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

Hold on it's really interesting that this is all happening because the other the other like big like AI thing in the news at least in like my realm um is like chat GPT just released an agent like specific for healthcare like for clinicians and for for doctors um which is like uh like please don't be in this scenario when you're dealing with that because that I mean that's that seems like again like if the if if AI infrastructure as a whole like kind of like as a technology is not in a place where we can prevent it from deleting a database of customers for rental cars why are we pushing it through into like our health information and all this stuff like that that seems like such a risk at this point. And I don't know maybe there's additional stuff maybe to to your point Sarav they're limited in like the number of interactions they can have to save compute and they're not going to do that for healthcare and they're gonna increase it for whatever I I don't know I I hope to have enough faith to think that they would feel comfortable at a at a point to roll it out with the safeguards that are in place and think that they're gonna be okay. Because the ramifications I mean not just for the people obviously like that's catastrophic for them but then like on the back end the blowback that would come from that is also a huge risk for them. So like there is there is like a vested interest that they would have in it to make sure that it's ready for prime time by the time they put it out.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

But then you see shit like this go around and it's like ah you know I don't know how confident to be there's a great interview that uh I hope I'm not conflating or mixing up the wrong things but uh this guy named I want to say his name is Demi Demi. Um he's uh the head of like the deep mind kind of like the AI effort at Google um not all of the AI but like the kind of the deep AI lab stuff I think he's he's been the head of and I'm pretty sure it was him who said this but he was just like yeah in an ideal world we would have had we would have spent like another decade getting this stuff perfect before rolling it out um so that like we felt more confident about like the safety and everything of it but he was also like very like you just recognize like honestly like the GBT moment happened in like 2023 and it was like it lit the fuse and like now we're all stuck in this race and we like we have to like we're like it's not we have to but you know I mean like we make it so we have to um and there's no option to like be like actually let's all pump our brakes for 10 years.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

It's kind of like no this is like an arms race now and like you know um yeah right like how many businesses have already integrated it into their s you know how easy is it to just remove AI at this point if you could like you know seems like it's like too big to fail at this point.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

Yeah no it's a it's a it's it's gonna be an interesting couple years.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

Yeah. Um all right cool uh shifting beats I'll I'll bring it up I feel like every week I have another social interaction uh story and how to handle it. So um so I was in so I was down in Puerto Rico and uh and sometimes I'm I I just kind of like to do my own my own thing. I got there there was playoffs going on I want to go out and get a quick bite to eat um and and I know because I've been there before that there's this really good burrito place because they sell a California style burrito which if you're not familiar with it it includes French fries in the burrito which to me is like awesome. So um I had been to this place before and I was there by myself the first time and I sat at the bar by myself. There was like no one in this restaurant they have like indoor and outdoor door seating but I was pretty much the only one there. There was like a couple tables outside and so I was doing my thing at the bar eating the burrito watching a game and I just I got a vibe from the waiter who was who was serving the tables outside. I just got a vibe from it that he just kept on like looking at me. He was like dancing and singing to the songs but like he would always just like make eye contact with me. I was like all right you know whatever like no big deal moving on like yeah but what was your like what was your reaction? Were you just like looking at him he was would make eye contact or dancing you would just well so this was the first time that I was there right and I was just like I would just eat my bread like I would notice him because it was just like me the bartender and then him he was coming in and out from like serving tables out there. So like it was just the three of us and I'm always I'm interested in people like I look at people and you know I don't know whatever vibe I was giving off he seemed to be picking up on it. Um so anyways finish up leave his his gaitar was going off well were you eating your burrito like this I fit the entire burrito in my mouth and that seemed to do the trick.

SPEAKER_02 37:59

But uh it was the sour cream dribbling down his chin yeah but so that was that was a few weeks ago this past week went there again and I was like oh man like I wasn't even thinking about it.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

I was like oh man I really want this burrito so um so the captain and I w went out and I was like hey you know I know this place right down the road we can go grab one so we sat outside um sure enough the same waiter's there right so he comes up to serve our table and man I'm getting the vibe again like he's just talking to me and he's making comments about uh like like some pretty aggressive comments about how you know I ordered the guacamole and he was like oh are you guys gonna split that and I was like yeah I think so and he's like okay but you can't split me and I was like all right like what are we doing here right now hold up uh yeah like like really forward comments that's where we're like so like we're so like the seats are kind of um like bench seats that have a back to it so I'm sitting back and like I always sit with like one arm back up on the back of the bench right so my hand is towards where the waiter comes up to the table and so he so at one point he comes up to the table he gives us whatever we need and then as he walks away he touches my hand that's on the back of this of of the seat and and it's the hand and it's my left hand with my ring finger on it and he and he touches my hand as he leaves and I'm like all right man this is a little bit uncomfortable. You think you're the first man with a wedding ring on well that's what I was I mean no but I'm just like man like that it just like it it it definitely like lays the ground rules that like I know what you're about and I don't give a shit you know uh but um so uh essentially this motherfucker likes cookies you seem like somebody who drinks ice cream milk at the same time he doesn't milk mix milk and ice cream but so you know that happened and now but so now I'm in this situation where like I it's a good it's a good place to lay over really nice hotel good weather beautiful and it's got a great burrito place but now I'm like man am I sending the wrong message by going back to this burrito place like I'm going back there like next week and I'm like man I'm gonna run it so how did how did that dinner how did that dinner end like we hooked up on the table we just yeah we just we just cleared the table off and got after it yep uh no but like but that was it that was it it's just that like there is this there is this tension there now that I I am aware of what he's putting down you know what I mean and I must be giving off some vibe.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

I don't know what it is I've realized that I don't think that most people wear tank tops and I don't know if the tank top is giving off the vibe because that's I like that you all I like that you arrived at that you I like that you arrived at the there with still a little bit of doubt I mean there is I it could be any number of things.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

I don't know what it is I'm giving it's got his tank top on his noose knuckle out and he's wondering why this guy's hitting yeah like I noticed that I don't see a lot of tank tops around but yeah it's weird tank tops I feel like tank tops gotta be like gay men's cleavage like that's what I like maybe it is but when it's hot and it's warm out and I don't want to get all sweaty in my armpits I feel like a tank top just makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

You know what you gotta do you got to switch to like Looney Tunes jerseys because that is the most heterosexual thing you could possibly wear. Looney Tunes is no just jerseys. Oh okay I don't know then why does that be Looney Tunes? But the Looney Tunes jerseys are like funny it's most like mostly like Space Jam because like that is what all like the frat bros wear.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

So you gotta you gotta you you can get the same outcome yeah but really really uh you know broadcast your best tie-dye no tie-dye yeah no rainbow maybe that's it and and hey I want to say that like his orientation or what is is kind of like secondary in this story right it'd be the same thing if it was a girl that was being this forward on unwanted advances. Yeah that it's just like hey like I know what you're putting down I got it but like you know I'm in a situation I'm not interested so now it's just the it's not so now it's just a situation of like when I go back there am I sending a signal like yo this guy keeps coming in he's clearly interested in this or is it ever going to get to the point where I have to be like do they get do they cut the shit um I'm not interested in order to go can you get just like a can you get can you get a like a I can but they serve it warm with a little bit of melted cheese on the top of it and like it comes out you know it's a really good enjoyable if I were you like I wouldn't be doing that.

SPEAKER_00 42:54

What I would do is like I would just go back as planned and like if he's there like you guys are building a rapport at some point you can just be like friendly enough to be like hey man like just so you know like I I appreciate it I'm I'm I'm I'm just I'm not into it but I'm flattered and like good luck to you and I'm gonna be lucky to you have a nice letter down easy. Yeah but I think like you know it's not your job to you it's me to preemptively like uh you know uh deprive yourself of a great burrito that you like at a place that you know you're gonna have to go to a lot just out of this like fear that this guy's gonna get the wrong idea that you're coming in and like deep throat in this California burrito every couple weeks as anyone would do. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

That's not abnormal not at all.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

But I do think that I I genuinely feel like you you can become a regular and at some point either without you you might not even ever ever have to say anything. It's just you continuing to come and not r reacting you continuing To be a patron at this place and and not responding to his like overtures, like you might be he might get the hit and be like, ah, okay. This guy's actually straight. He just dresses like this.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

But uh really dressed is sending the wrong signals out.

SPEAKER_02 44:18

Apart he also thinks that like some of it is probably just like like being fun to be flirty. Like, I don't know that he's necessarily might not necessarily think that you're actually going to do anything with him, but like it's a fun time. That's how he passes the time at work. You know what I mean? So it's a kind of like if it's an uncomfortable situation, you might have to like say something to Sarah's point and just let him do the set too.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

And I would say the situation is gonna come to a head. Well no. It's gonna come to head. Uh uh no, I was gonna say just like uh I do think it's a very different thing to be a gay man, and like from the people I've met, whether it's through like friends or like coworkers, it it does seem like they play a different game. Like, you know, they are throwing through the woods, they are shooting shots. It's not even confidence. I think it's like a oh, like I gotta play it's a numbers game, and like I have to be very bold. Um, and also like I think they get rewarded, you know, for taking weird shots. Like, I remember one dude like I worked with, he was the proudest he had ever been was that like he got a straight guy to hook up with it. And like, you know, I'm just like, oh, like you guys are really on a different level. Like a straight guy in quotes.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

Yeah, like that kind of that was kind of out the window at that point.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

A previously up to that point straight guy.

SPEAKER_00 45:44

Up to that point, maybe even after, maybe he's just deeply closeted, whatever the case. A guy who's living his life on the surface. Or not, I don't know. I actually don't know. I don't know. Everyone's got maybe on like the spectrum in a weird way. But like, yeah, he was so proud of this like you know, seemingly like stodgy middle America dude with like a very committed girlfriend, like ended up, you know, doing this, and it's like, oh, there's like very proud. I was like, Yeah, okay. So y'all, y'all be hunting. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So Brett into the code.

SPEAKER_01 46:12

I'll be back there again. I'll let you know if the saga uh reaches reaches a climax, if you will. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 46:19

Oh no, by the way, you're sitting in your chair there.

SPEAKER_01 46:23

Why do you assume that I'm the well, all right, uh anyways, moving on. That's what it is. Yeah. Uh so another uh another callback that I mentioned earlier, I think that the topic of the question was like, what is something that you you know that you experienced growing up or that that's a common belief growing up that you now bel that you believe in now or is it that is reinforced, something along those lines. I think my answer was that like money doesn't buy happiness, but it it does like makes things easier. Um and so I have so had an example of that. So where I drive to, I have to get on a major highway, beltway, and at the normal traffic times. I realize now that I'm bringing this up to two people that just don't drive, so the interaction is probably gonna be pretty limited. But at least for any of our listeners, you might be able to uh uh to understand what I'm talking about. So I drive on a beltway around the high traffic times in the morning and in the afternoon, the traffic is insane. It is really, really bad. You know, my drive that could be an hour and 15 minutes could be three hours pretty easily. Um but so like it's see a lot of places doing they have variable toll tolls, right? So you have the express lanes, but the toll varies based on the time of day and the amount of congestion on the road. So if I were to ask you in peak traffic time, how much do you think that toll is? If you had to guess. Again, you guys don't drive, so you don't know, but around the beltway? 20, like 22. Sarah, you have a guess. Yeah, so you know, I that that that probably would have been my guess. I've seen it up to $42. Right? Holy shit. So, so like there's no way when I get there and see there's like, okay, like I'm sorry, I'll I'm gonna sit here for a half an hour to 45 minutes longer, but like, I can't do $42, especially especially thinking about the people that like commute, right? Um, that are doing that during those rush hour times. Like they're the ones that are in traffic going to work in the morning and in the afternoon. Well, I was flying with a captain and he was like, Oh, dude, I don't even look at that. I just get on the expressway, pay the toll, you know, whatever it is. Like, you know, I'm not gonna sit in traffic. I was like, man, that is a big, like, that's a big difference. You know what I mean? To be able to have the type of money where you're just like, whatever, $20, $30, $40 toll, whatever it is. I don't even look anymore. I'm just going because I don't want to sit in traffic. And it's like, meanwhile, all the other like peasants over there that are doing this on a day-to-day basis that can't afford to pay that toll now have to spend a significant portion of their day, week, month, year life sitting in traffic because it's just not feasible to spend $40, you know, potentially $80 a day on a toll.

SPEAKER_03 49:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:17

You know what I mean? It was just like that was just another one that, you know, there's this captain who, you know, doesn't have kids or anything. He's just like, oh, whatever, I don't even think about it. I just take it. And it's like, there's all these other people that are there sitting in the traffic that don't have that option. You know what I mean? And because of that, like, you know, they're missing time with their family, they're late for work, they're getting pressure at their it's like, man, that is a that's a shitty thing. Where it's like, man, money doesn't buy happiness, but things like that where like you don't even have to think about it, and you just get to have more time to yourself with your family, with you know, etc. Just like, man, that's a sad realization. You know, that shit's kind of fucked. Like Yeah.

unknown 49:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

Like, hey, there's a lot of traffic. You can take this role, but you have to pay us, pay us a good amount of money that most of you guys can't afford to take. So that's why it's also becomes you guys in that lane.

SPEAKER_00 50:03

But it also becomes like a chicken and egg thing, because if like nobody was using it, then they wouldn't be incentivized to like charge that much. But because people are using it, they're like, Well, this was a good idea. But also, like, you you know, how can you get it to people using it? Because they're like, Well, yeah, I'm gonna get time back if I can, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Yeah, it's just like in everything else we've talked about about how to press me, is that like it seems like companies are they're finding the maximum price point, you know? It's like, what is the most money that people are willing to spend? Okay, this is where we're setting it because we do have a certain number of people that makes the numbers work out.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

Also, not to go tinfoil, and maybe this is not even tinfoil added really, but I do remember feeling like I read somewhere that it was either like the big car industry, like big auto or like big oil that like put the kibosh on some grand plans to really like build up like US railways because they didn't want people to not be buying cars and spending money on gasoline. And so it's like you think about that shit too, and you're like, this fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_01 51:05

Like, oh yeah. Dude, I mean that those are good answers. I know that we talked about it before about like conspiracy theories that you believe in. There are so many of those out there in terms of the products that we have, in terms of like the food pyramid and and and most of them are true. Yeah, right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 51:19

Most of most of those are like aren't even tinfoil hat. That's like legitimate.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

But it's just stuff that we take for that we think that all this research and that everyone's looking out for the best for the people. And it's like, no, no, no. These are just big, big companies that are just moving things around at their leisure for the extra money that they can make from it.

SPEAKER_02 51:37

Um Well, and that's what I don't I can't remember. I I think it's in a book that Megan was listening to or something she had read or something. It was about about like the food pyramid and stuff, and about like why like milk is like this big thing and why like everybody has milk. Like like that's like milk isn't inherently like even that like healthy for you or like that great of a source of calcium. Like there's other ways that you can get calcium and get like all the things that they say is really good for milk, but it was just like like way back when the farmers struck like some kind of marketing agreement and were like included in the FDA's like food pyramid is like this this staple for America, and then it's kind of just kind of stuck there. Um and yeah, I think I think it was I think it's Elon Musk, I want to say, who like wants to make those like magnetic trains that could like get you across the like across the country in a matter of like hours, like just a couple hours. Yeah. Something that would be like like super convenient, kind of like I think do they have them in Japan? Is that where it is?

SPEAKER_03 52:33

Yeah, uh-huh. With bull trains?

SPEAKER_00 52:35

Yeah, like a bull train. Yeah, I I mean those were amazing. I I rode one like you did? Uh yeah, I rode one. It I will say like it was great. I wish I had a sense of like the geography of Japan to appreciate it. I just know that I got to know where you were going. I got yeah, I got to my destination, but um it would be it would be interesting to do like boss out a map and be like, this would have been like going from you know uh Kansas to Maine in like three hours instead of like whatever. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

And and just talking about those the the prices from the variable tolls recently, to the surprise of no one, the stories of how insane the prices are at the World Cup are popping up. I'm interested if you've felt this, Brandon. I mean, from stories from like tickets, tickets to the final, like there are million dollar tickets to it, and most of them are like tens of thousands of dollars for regular tickets. And people were saying that at the World Cup back in the 90s that they had ticket stubs of them and on like center field, like 20 rows up and the ticket was like 94. And now like parking passes are hundreds of dollars, hundreds of thousands of dollars.

SPEAKER_02 53:41

That was actually a big story around here because it's not even just the parking, like one of the like the one of the cool things about Philly is that the SEPTA, like the um the train to get into the stadium, two dollars and ninety cents, like the same as it is normal. Like Philadelphia's keeping that that the same. No other city is. Like, I think in New York, to get from the city uh out to the meadowlands is gonna be like $150 or something like absolutely absurd. When it used to be $12. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:09

They're jumping up to $150 to get it into NetLife Stadium.

SPEAKER_02 54:14

That is insane. Insane. Which, and I mean, like part of me, part of me is like I I understand that like those transit systems aren't probably built for the volume that they're going to.

SPEAKER_01 54:26

New York City transit system going to Bethlehem.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

I mean, but no, no. So like like like there's gonna be way more people doing that way more often. Like, like there's it it it's gonna be a lot more. And I understand to a point that you you need to have like the resources and the infrastructure in place to be able to support that. It $150 a ride is is insane.

SPEAKER_01 54:47

But did other but have other countries done this? Have other countries jumped it, you know, $100. Oh, dude, I'm sure. Hundreds and hundreds of percentage more when they've had it in Brazil?

SPEAKER_02 54:58

Oh yeah. No, I'm sure I'm sure hotels and transport and everything was gouged, like especially in in those kinds of countries where the people who are coming in have a lot more disposable income than their local populace. Like I'm sure that this isn't like a I don't think this is a new thing or a new phenomenon, but uh those countries also did have to to to pony up a whole bunch of money because they didn't have the infrastructure in place. The whole point of it coming to the US, and like one of the benefits of having it here is like we're equipped to handle that. Yeah, like the large subway in the world system probably doesn't have like it doesn't have that much volume, but it is built so that it can or or should be able to handle it with minimal like refurbishment or any other enhancements that they need to make, which is why like $150 uh to uh a ride is is absurd. And yeah, that's what so they were talking about it, and I didn't even look because because we have our tickets and like I'm I am I have no it can be cool to see Brazil in France. I don't have like a this thing where like I need to go to a specific game. I just want to go to a World Cup game, so I'm happy with the one that I got, even though like the teams aren't it's like Curacao and in Ivory Coast or whoever it is. So it's like I'll I'll be in there, I'll get the vibe, I'll be able to see it, be see some world soccer, crawl something off my bucket list. I'm happy about it. Um those other games that are not like our game, I I was just like curious to see what it was like because people were talking about how the prices are insane. The get in price to be like up in the 400 level is $800, $900 a ticket. Yeah, yeah. Like the cheapest, the the very cheapest you could get is like $800 a ticket to get in to see any of these other games. I checked our game, our game is like $500, so it's it's significantly cheaper. But even that, like to see Curacao and and and Ivory Coast in in the upper levels of a stadium. $500 a ticket is absolutely insert. But for the for the four tickets we got, that's about what we paid. We didn't pay much more than that.

SPEAKER_01 56:54

And where are your where are your seats?

SPEAKER_02 56:56

Are they just they're in like the it I I I don't know what the exact seat levels are, but there's like um because they have them in in zones, and we're in zone two, I think those seats are. So it's like the it's not it's not down like field level that, but it's like like the level up from it.

SPEAKER_01 57:13

Yeah. When you put in your bid package, did you bid on a zone or is it just whatever you got?

SPEAKER_02 57:19

Um you bid on a zone.

SPEAKER_01 57:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:21

You did you you did bid per zone and and and where you wanted it to be. And then and then like within that zone, you can get your ticket where wherever like you you couldn't pick the the row or the seat or anything like that. But yeah. Well, I mean, either way. It's insane.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

Yeah. Regardless of whether they needed to or not, I feel like this, you know, FIFA and US capitalism underneath.

SPEAKER_02 57:49

That that's that's secondary market, though. Like you can't you can't buy these those tickets are sold out. You can't go to FIFA and buy one of those tickets.

SPEAKER_03 57:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:57

Like the the the tickets are like you paid face value for the tickets, and it's it's the secondary market now that is like like people are charging insane amounts of money to And I just meant in terms of like all of the other stuff, like the parking passes and the new and the New Jersey transit gouging the prices.

SPEAKER_01 58:12

Like, I'm I'm I I'm like they've lost the benefit of the doubt that they're trying to do things the right way. Like, there's no there's nothing in my mind that says that they're doing that. Like, it's just gouging it for the maximum amount that they can squeeze out of everyone.

SPEAKER_02 58:27

Uh, yeah, and they're having they're having these like in all the World Cup cities, they're having these like fan fests, which are like these like where I think I think you can go and watch like the other games. It's like while games that are not in your city are going on and they have like these things that you're doing, whatever. It's like this like festival type out uh atmosphere that you have to pay to get in. Like, even that's like not something that you could just like roll up to and be a part of it. Philadelphia's is free, um, which is awesome. I I don't know how like Philadelphia ended up doing it. Like it's I think objectively, when you look at it, probably one of the less off cities uh that are are hosting a World Cup. So the fact that they're I don't I don't know what kind of money or like backdoor scheming, like it's it's to the point where I think that there's probably something going on that where they're able to offer this kind of stuff. But yeah, even something like that, which should be like a fan experience like that, should be something that people can just roll up to and and enjoy when it's it's something of this caliber going on and there's that much money already behind it. Um but even that is like a paid experience, which is just unfortunate.

SPEAKER_01 59:25

Yeah. Just sucks that it's pricing out like 95% of the population like right off the bat, you know. Like, well, people will just never have the op the the opportunity to to experience something like that, which should be. You know, the World Cup coming to the States is you know, basically a once-in-a-lifetime thing. And it just sucks that it's just not not a reality for most people. All right. Let's you know what? Let's uh just so we don't get too bowed down and stuff, I can always roll stuff up into next week, depending on the timing. Let's roll into this week in history, Sarov.

SPEAKER_00 59:57

Cool. Uh let's see. Okay, quick five that were somewhat interesting. Um Wallace Carathers invented nylon this week. Or it was his birthday, one of those things this week. Uh but the fun fact is that did you know that nylon was first used not for what we all know it as, but for toothbrush bristles. Really? Okay, exactly. Yeah, that's that was what it was like first really for. Uh, and then you know, stockings and other things made sense. Uh, and it's kind of what we know them for now. Um this other one that I thought was kind of funny, yeah. No, there's like a motorcycle going by. Um when British surveyors calculated the height of Mount Everest, they they in in 1956 around this date, uh, they found that it was uh exactly 29,000 feet, but they reported it as twenty-nine thousand and two feet so that it wouldn't seem like a an estimate.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:03

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:04

But like they're like they're like, no, it's too round of a number. We can't do that. That's great. Yeah. Um all right, cool. So Green Day, uh you three of us at least grew up with uh American Idiot being like a very uh a huge album when we were like in high school or whatever, middle school. Um American Idiot only exists because the master tapes for Green Day's near-finished prior album, Cigarettes and Valentine's, were stolen in 2003. And so when they were sitting there thinking about re-recording everything that was stolen, they qu they kind of were faced with like, do we really think that's our best material, or should we just start over with and try to do something else? And that something else ended up becoming American Idiot.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:52

Oh no way.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:53

So there's somebody out there who has this like unreleased Green Day album that only they have been listening to.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:59

Yeah, I guess. Yeah, that's some random recordings and shit. Yeah, yeah. Cigarettes and Valentine's. Um, all right, a couple movie ones to round us out. So uh I just thought this was interesting as it's spring and it's getting warmer. Um some before Jaws came out in 1975, summer was actually a dumping ground for film studios um for films that they just didn't really believe in. Currently, that is what we call the January and early February uh window of like when movies come out that dumptuary, exactly. But yeah, back then prestige releases were always around Christmas. Um, and then in 1975, MR accounted for only 32% of the annual box office. But by 1996, that share had nearly doubled. Jaws really like like beyond succeeding as a film, but also just rearranged the film calendar. So it's uh that's kind of interesting to me. Yeah, yeah. Last one, kind of just like a fun little Disney fact. Uh Sleeping Beauty underperformed on its original 1959 release, triggering massive layoffs at Disney and a 30-year halt on animated fairy tale films until the Little Mermaid in 1989. So one flop, wow, you know, kind of froze froze an entire genre um at the studio that defined it. That's wild. Yeah. Things that made me go, huh?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:29

Yeah. I would agree. All right. Let's uh let's go into our trivia. Um we got a uh pretty straightforward one this week. Nice. This is this is a trivia based on 90s uh TV shows. So the uh so it's basically just just straight trivia questions. We'll alternate. There's 16 total, so you each will get eight. All right, and we'll see how it goes. Right now, Sarab has a commanding lead in the overall series, six to two.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:00

Yeah, but also like I was not even in America for most of the nineties, so let's see how we do.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:06

That's true. I know. I feel like, you know, as I was making this, I was like, I feel like Sarab and I haven't had like connection points on 90s like TV shows and cartoons and stuff. So uh so I'm interested in how this goes.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:20

I make a lot of people upset when they tell me when they find out I haven't watched whatever favorite thing of theirs from their childhood.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:27

Yeah, I feel that way about movies and music before 2000. But all right, uh, so we'll start with we'll start with Brandon. All right. Uh in full house, what was the catchphrase Joey Gladstone used along with a hand gesture? Cut it out. Cut it out is correct.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:45

I would not have known that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:46

No? Okay, then this might be rough. So Sarab. Alright. In Rocco's modern life, what kind of animal was Rocco's best friend?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:58

Is Rocco the one who's like a crazy looking dog? Okay. What was the question? What animal was his friend?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:06

Yeah. And I'll give you, well, I'll let you answer. Um is it a yo, Sarab's about to pull some shit like he did on the NCAA? Dude, I'm waiting for it, and I'm just waiting to like just go full ticket. Like in the NCAA. I know, man. That's gonna happen. Uh, I'm gonna go with a turtle. His best friend's name was Heifer Wolf. Does that give me any other guess? Was it a wolf? Not a wolf. It was a cow. Yeah, a steer. It was a cow or like a cow. Heifer. Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Yep. All right, back to Brandon. In The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, what was the name of the butler who is known for his dry wit and sarcasm?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:43

Hang on, I'm I I I need a minute on this. I can see him. I can picture him. I'm actually blanking on this too. Oh, his name. Hang on. Man. This is killing me. If my brother ever listens to this, he's he's gonna he's gonna send me so much shit. For not getting this. We watched so much French Fresh Prince. Man, uh I'm gonna go. Yeah, I I gotta give it his name Steve. His name was not Steve.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:14

The name of the butler from the Fresh Prince of Bel Air was Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:23

Jeeves kept coming up, and I'm like, no, that was the fucking search engine. Oh man, that's tough.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

Oh man, now I'm wondering. I was gonna quote the uh uh never mind, never mind. I won't even try it.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:38

All right, over to Sarab. I feel like you probably haven't seen this one, but in the sitcom Seinfeld, what holiday did George Costanza's father create to rival Christmas?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:48

This one, thankfully, I know. I live in New York and it's festivus.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:53

Festivus. Festivus for the rest of us. All right, sweet, so that ties it up. Uh Brandon Sarab each with one point uh each. All right, Brandon. In Family Matters, what was the name of Steve Urkel's suave, cool alter ego? Stefan Urkel. That is correct. All right, that gives Brandon two points to Sarav's one. Sarav. In recess, the group of kids had a leader who wore a backwards red baseball cap. What were his initials? I don't know, man. DJ? Very close. Brandon, do you happen to know? I don't know. Is that TJ? Yeah, TJ. It was TJ. TJ, wow. Theodore Jasper Detweiler. All right, Brandon. In home improvement, Tim Taylor hosted a home repair show. What was the name of that show? Tooltime. Tooltime is correct. Time attend the toolman Taylor. Yeah. Alright, that brings Brandon to three points and Sarav with one. Another one, if I had got wrong, John would have been all over me. Yeah. All right. Srav. In Keenan and Kel, where did Keenan Rockmore work during the series? Goodburger? No. I'm very interested that he gave that answer.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:02

That's where Kel.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:03

Where did Keenan work? Where did Keenan work? Um wasn't it like a like a smoothie place? No.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:11

I don't believe so.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:12

Whatever, do you know?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:13

I actually don't know where Keenan worked. Good Goodburger stood out, but then I I realized that was Kel.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:18

The place was called Rigby's and is a grocery store.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:22

Ah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:22

Interesting. Alright. Uh Brandon, in the wild thornberries, what was the name of the chimpanzee who wore a tank top and was Eliza's best friend? Darwin? Darwin is correct. All right. On a tear. Brandon up to four points. Sarab's got one and has uh four questions left. So it's gotta make up some time here. Alright, Sarab, in Friends, what is the name of the coffee shop where the six main characters frequently hang out? Central Perk. Central Perk is correct. Brandon, in all that, what was the name of the recurring sketch featuring a clueless fast food employee named Ed?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:59

You're also muted.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:01

Yeah. Man. Was it Goodburger? Goodburger is correct. I love how that all turned out. I love that Sarav answered Goodburger in Keenan and Kel, and I love that you were a little bit confused by it because I associated Goodburger with Kenan and Kel. Yeah, I did too. I but then they came from all that. Yeah, Goodburger was a sketch on all that that turned into a movie and a sequel of Goodburger. And from all that uh it bore Keenan and Kel. So the show Keenan and Kel came from their relationship from all that. Yeah. But that much I knew.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:42

The the Ed was was Kel. So did Kel play a guy named Ed? Is that where that came from? I believe so. Or was it or was there another cast member that played the the guy?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:51

No, no, no. Yeah. It was it was it was it was Kel who played Ed, and as soon as Brendan said it, I was like, I realized where I had mixed things up. Because I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, it's Ed.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:00

But I did the same thing. I was like, I just associated Good Burger with Keenan and Kel, but I don't believe it.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:04

Keenan and Kel, they played like their they use their own names as like Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:08

But they but they didn't in the all that sketch. Because I I I remember those sketches from all that. I just don't remember his name being it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:13

I didn't know if Goodburger was in Keenan and Kel. I wasn't a big watcher of Keenan and Kel, so I don't know. But it may not have been.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:19

Who knows?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:20

It might not have been in there at all, which I think is is surprising. Maybe not. I'm not sure. Yeah, it might not have been. Yeah. Um all right. So Brandon's at five points, Sarav is at two points. Sarav, in Doug, what was the name of the fictional rock band that Doug and Skeeter were obsessed with? I don't know, man. The Rebels. Brandon, do you have a guess? Rebels isn't correct. The Beats is correct. Yeah. Yeah, that's who it was. All right, Brandon, in the Magic School Bus, what was the name of Miss Frizzle's class pet lizard?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:48

I I don't know. I I I saw Magic School Bus, but I wasn't like a legit watcher of it. And I can picture the lizard.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:59

Yeah, your boys never got into it. Nah. Frankie is incorrect. The pet lizard's name was Liz. Liz the lizard. Alright, so Rob. In Boy Meets World, what was the name of Corey Matthews' best friend since childhood? Sean. Yeah, do I need to have his last name? No, I think that's good enough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:17

Was it Hunter?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:18

Sean Hunter?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:19

His last name was Hunter. Yep. Nice. Sean Hunter. I actually did know that. I just was like, am I thinking of the actor's last name or his real What a great show, man. Great show. Incredible show. Love me some point me too. Tipanga for life, bro. For life. Always.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:33

Yeah. She still looks the exact same.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:36

She does. Yeah. She was just on American Idol. Oh, does she?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:42

That's like her thing. She's on my head. She does a pig's actors. I think she might have done it. Brandon, in Arthur, what kind of animal is Arthur Reed and his family? Ardvarks. Ardvark is correct. That one, I was like, man, I can picture him. But it doesn't strike a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

That was actually one that my boys got into. They they really liked Arthur.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:02

Okay. All right. Well, Brandon has it. It's kind of out of reach now. He has six points. Sarav has three, but uh just to complete the game, Sarav. In Sabrina the Teenage Yeah. Yep. In Sabrina the Teenage Witch, what was the name of the family's talking black cat? It wasn't Nostradamus, was it? No, it was not. Uh Salem. Salem.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:23

Okay. Nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:23

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Uh, yeah. So Brandon with six points, Sarav with three points. That brings the overall series. Brandon now has three, and Sarav has six. So we found Sarab's uh Sarav's weakness is on 90s television that he was not in the country for.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:41

Frey, like I can't even be proud of this win.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:45

Like Yeah, I gotta keep it.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:49

I'm not gonna be lying. I I got nervous after I missed Jeffrey, and then he got like the very next question about Seinfeld. I was like, man, if I if I lose this, I'm just gonna quit. I'm gonna retire.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:57

Yeah. Yeah. Still still trying to find topics that uh has a knowledge base that both of you guys can tap into. Uh, but uh we'll keep trying to work through it. All right. Uh let's where are we at? Yeah, let's just uh let's go to the question of the week to wrap it up. Uh so for this week, the question is what is your most useless talent or ability that you have? Brandon, would you like to kick us off?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:24

I'm struggling with this one. I can't think of anything that I have that I'm like, oh, that's really cool and a good thing that I can do, but uh that I never like actually use. Like my like like nowadays, and not I even know that I would call it a a t a talent. Um but I like to cut a rug on a dance floor. It's just something that I like it's a muscle that I I never flex anymore. Like I don't we're not going out and going to dancing. Most like the the number of weddings that we're going to is is trickled down to you know one every couple of years now. Um so it's like uh it it's there's very, very just I don't foresee when the next time like we're gonna get like get out, like go out dancing. Like we it would have to be a thing where it's it's like like we have a plan to go out and do that and make that like our our date night to go out and do that. But then even finding a venue to be able to do that where it's not weird that you're you know, um closer to forty and going out and just dancing with your wife is kind of kinda not the social norm. Um but something that I I would still want to do. Um because that that is.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:33

Yeah, I did have that thought recently. I was like, man, Megan and I we used to love I mean, whenever we had a chance to get on the dance floor, like it was great. And just like you said, weddings, I don't remember the last one I've been to. It's been years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:45

But even then, like well, the last few weddings that we've gone to is have been with the kids where it's like like my my dancing out there is not that at all what it it it used to be. Kids, mommy and daddy are gonna be out grinding.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:56

Don't bother us, don't come knocking.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:59

It's gonna be sweaty and nasty out there. Man, I I cannot relate at all. I feel like there's dancing, dancing is just a constant available thing. And I not that we I don't know that like I think as we've gotten, you know, mid-30s, we're definitely like not seeking it out the way we used to. Like it's never a plan or it's on the agenda, but like the number of times very casually we're somewhere where we walk into a place and the music is kind of jamming, and there's just people dancing, you're like, Oh yeah, I'm gonna get into this a little bit. Yeah, that's what I want. It's it's very organic, it's nice. Yeah. And it's obviously in New York because I live in you know, Neverland. It's uh like the age there, like I don't know what it would take to look age inappropriate. Uh I I will say if you're in Manhattan, like, yes, that is where the young people are. But like in Brooklyn, like it's so much more like 30s, late 20s, maybe like early 40s. Uh, but even so, like you'll still find places that have like all age people just hanging out, and you're like, wow, it's kind of nice. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, okay, mine. Uh, I'm glad I thought this is kind of what came to mind first, and I'm not thinking of other things, so I'm gonna go with this. I think my very useless skill is being able to find things. Um, I had a very like my brother, obviously was like a very forgetful uh person growing up, so he would just like lose his shit all the time. Um, like, you know, I would uh and I would just be like so good at helping, like just generally trying to like scope out like, all right, what was his footpath? Like what is he what has he probably done? Tell me what you remember last time seeing it, and then being able to like somehow find these things that are like missing somewhere. And it's like usually in kind of very obvious places. So, like, you know, uh anytime adults would be like, I can't find my keys, I would just always be the kid who'd be like, all right, like walk me through, like, and then I would just somehow manage to find it, you know. Um, and I will say the reason it comes to mind is like I was very excited about it too. I loved when someone would be like, I know that this thing is in my house somewhere, I just cannot for the life of me find it. And I'd be like, All right, like give me a little bit of information and then I'm gonna go start searching. And you know, it's so satisfying, even though it's like such a dumb, meaningless thing. But like I love doing that shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:21

Sure, once you have kids, once you have kids, that superpower is going to be like the most useful superpower you've ever had. That's what I was just gonna say. Like, like I wish I could do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:32

That's incredibly useful. Yeah, like that is a great talent to have. Yeah. I feel like I was scarred growing up. I mean, one of the another thing uh that scarred me, but I feel like my my mom, she was a mover of things, and it infuriated me when it was like my stuff, right? And I would be like, hey, like, where's this? And she'd be like, Oh, I moved it. Like, where where'd you put it? She's like, I don't remember. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, you move my stuff and then you don't remember where it is, like it drove me up a wall. Like, I could not believe it. I'm like, if you're gonna touch someone's stuff, A, you have to let them know that you're good that that you're moving it. B, if you're gonna do it, you better damn well sure know where you put it so that when I'm looking for it, you can tell me where it is. So I feel like it's scarred me because now whenever I cannot find something, I'm immediately looking to like blame someone else that they moved it because I just grew up with someone moving my stuff. So like I feel bad because then like, you know, you know, oftentimes it is me that I just like misplaced it. But immediately when I can't find I'm like, who moved it? God damn it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:43

My mom did that all the time. My mom did that all the time. My mom wasn't a mover of stuff, she would just like randomly decide that she's gonna like clean an entire area. And I'm like, all right, like I get that you're cleaning, but like, you know, if you see that I've left my book that I'm actively reading on like the counter or something, don't just like shove it wherever, like, and then not remember. Right, right. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:05

My my mom always did that. She loved to like just move stuff around just to like change like the house and like just make stuff look different. Megan does the same thing, like around our house. The difference being, like, I mean, but she knows where everything is at all times.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:18

I just love how your voice went down an octave. You were like, Yeah, my mom was a mover. And also Megan. Megan does her interesting thing about she said right there.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:27

I said, I just love your voice just got a little soft.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:39

No, but she she knows she knows where everything is at all times. Like she'll she'll she will move it and then she will try to tell me where everything went and how it maps out, and I will never know. There's I mean, there's we like changed where our towel hook is in our bathroom when we painted the bathroom. I will wash my hands and like this was when we first moved in. This was 10 years ago now. So it has been in the position that it is now longer than it was when we had first gotten here. I will still wash my hands and turn around to go to that towel just because that's where it was like in the beginning. I don't know. I just I see something, it's there, I know that it's there. I'm a creature of habit. I like to try to find it there. And if when things get moved, I get lost. I'm very fortunate that Megan is always on top of it and knows where everything is. And I always have a resource that could go to. And I love that Megan is really good at knowing where everything is.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:31

Hang on, let me turn that up. She's wonderful. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:36

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:37

Yeah, I'm like, I uh total tangential thing, but like I I love being in the dark. I l I don't like bright lights. There was that like TikTok trend that came around about people complaining about the big light when their parent comes in and turns on the big light. And I was like, oh my god, that's like exactly me. Like I hated that. When I had like a whole mood going in the room I was at, and then someone would come in and just start turning all the lights. I'm like, damn, I had a whole thing going. But I like being in the dark, and I can also navigate really well in the dark. Like I could be pitch black and I know where everything is in the house. Like I could get through the house perfectly with the lights out. So if things are moved, I'm the first one that'll notice if something's like not right where it used to be. Because I'm very aware of it. Like I can navigate and know where everything is. Stub a toe.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:21

Also, it's kind of funny. I for I had this thought when you were talking about the kids stuff, and I realized like I have a slightly funny version of that that I experienced. Uh, and then I forgot, and now I'm just remembering again. Uh so I I have like cleaners who come in and like kind of do like a deep apartment clean, like, you know, once a month, once every two months. Um yeah, man. Uh you know, I'm just not good at getting like like dusting and like, you know, I'm I can I can like vacuum and I can but like you know, the people who come in and like fucking spray liquid on the floor and then scrub it and then vacuum and then do I'm just like all right, I'd rather I would just rather pay for that. But I've noticed that like every time it will create a scenario where I'm like, where the fuck did this go? Um it started with like random dishes where I'm like, oh, like, because you know, they don't know where there's where I put my stuff. So like they move a lot of things around and it's like, where's this bowl? Like, where's this fucking bowl? And I'm like going through every cabinet until I find it. And the last two times have been more peculiar because like I went to shower and I started the shower, I got in the shower, and I just realized like all of my shampoo and body wash and like everything was gone. And I was like, where did she put this? Like, and I'm looking around the bathroom and I'm like, there's no way it's not somewhere here. Like, I don't understand. And like I looked for I'm gonna say at least 20 minutes, and then I finally realized like she had just like pushed them deep underneath um the uh like there's like there's a space under the sink, but I just did not, I would just logically never expect it. They would be backed up against the wall under the sink in like the darkest part where like I would have to like fully get on my knees to be able to see that. And so I was just fucking with you now, so yeah. They're just fucking with me now. That's what it is. So I had the the uh a cleaning lady come in uh a few days ago, you know. I and the funny part is they always I think it's because they like they want like a tip and there's also a language barrier because they're always like um you know Hispanic in some way, but uh they do stuff that I don't ask for. Where I'm like, hey, you know, floors, bathroom, kitchen, like that's it. Like, I don't need you to touch other things. Um and every time they'll do some stuff that's like extra, like, you know, again, dishes, I never asked them to do my dishes, but they end up doing it. Um this time, uh, I have no idea why this person did this. Uh I she's like, once once she was done, she's like, Oh, can you take a look, make sure everything looks good? And I look around, I'm like, oh yeah, it looks great. She leaves. And then I just look in my room for a second and I'm like, yo, did she change? She changed my sheets. And I was like, that's fine. Like, you're I guess, you know, I don't mind whatever if you think that's gonna get you like points, like whatever. Um, she changed my sheets, but she like didn't she took off all the pillow covers and just left the raw pillows in a neat decoration on my bed. And so I was just like really confused. Uh, and I was like, Where, like, what? Where's first off, like there's two of the pillows were in the closet. She took them out and then just decorated them on my bed. But I'm like, it's just really bizarre to me that you made my bed. Like you felt you took clean sheets out, you put them over it, and then you just like left all the pillows raw. What did she do with the pillowcases that go with those sheets? Did she just leave them in the closet? No, she like that well that part did confuse me. She like put them in like I realized she took like the stuff with your body wash. No, no. Because this is a different lady. This is a different lady. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. So this time she just like had this woman had just put stuff into like uh, I have like a a little, I don't know what you want to call it, uh, not a box, but like a tray, like, you know, I don't know, it's like a tray kind of thing where I just put all like socks and underwear or like in this tray. And I just pull it out, grab a pair every time. And so I think she just thought these are like loose clothes or like laundry, just put all the shit in there. And I was like, all right, I'm glad I just found it. But it just wait, she thought that your pillowcases were underwear. No, she just thought they were like loose like clothes to to put somewhere and like to just put shit in there. And I was like, okay, whatever. She's like, all right, I made his bed.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:34

I have these pillows all laid out exactly how I want them. Yeah. Ah, I forgot to put the pillowcases on. Yeah. What do I do with them? Here's a tray. Here's a tray of stuff that just tosses them in there. It was just so random when I was like these.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:49

Yeah, always uh always a fun mystery. Good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:53

All right. Well, my my uh my useless talent is incredibly useless. Borderline's on gross, but are you guys familiar with what gleaking is? No. No?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:03

With your tongue where the you shoot the yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:07

Like underneath your tongue, you know, along like the string, there's like a little uh yeah, I don't know, nutsack. So it's like along the outside. So you can do it on command? Yeah, so I can like build up water and then I can squirt a stream of it's not water, it's it's spit. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:26

Yeah, that's really interesting because I don't have any control over it, but I shoot all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:33

Yeah, so it does happen randomly to me. So if you can do it randomly, you probably have that little nutsack of the phone. I have like the yeah, I might I I prematurely salivate. And then yeah, and then like you can do it. Yeah. So if you so if you if you either what I do is I basically push my tongue down and then I like yawn, and it it really makes it stronger if I like drink water a little bit first. Now I'm making everyone yawn by just saying yawn. Yeah. Uh but and then I just like force it up, and that's what makes it shoot out. So it's like a cool thing that I can do, but also like if I ever did it, everyone would be like, ew, dude, you just spit across the table. Like, that's gross. So it's incredibly useless bordering on gross where it's not gonna impress anyone, but hey, that's it. That's what I can do. Nice. All right, all right, as it comes to a screeching halt at the end of this episode. Yeah, ending on your saliva story. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:29

What an ending spitting. Yeah, at least it's not dark or sad.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:35

It's like Brendan didn't know you were a squirter.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:41

Hey, at least I can do it on command and it's not just involuntary.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:44

So I heard I heard that's just me.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:48

That's what they wanted to tell you. That's what they want you to believe. All right. Before this gets into the X rated podcast, we'll uh I think we'll I think we'll wrap Wrap it up here. Uh for it. You guys got anything else to add? No. All right. Sweet. Appreciate you guys listening. We got uh more stuff that we didn't get to this week that we'll roll into next week. Uh so some stuff to look forward to. But hope you guys all uh enjoyed the listen. Appreciate you coming along on the journey with us and hope you have a good week. And we'll talk to you everyone later. See ya. See ya.