I'm Not a Perfect Person...

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SPEAKER_01 0:07

Howdy, gents and broads, welcome to another episode of our aptly named podcast. Hope everyone's doing well this week and uh thanks to you for joining us for another episode. Uh happy Mother's Day to everyone that was uh that that was out there. Hopefully it was a good weekend for everyone. Uh we'll get into how it was for you guys, but I had a uh I I had a question that I feel like as we get older and have our own families uh that becomes an interesting dynamic to balance. And I'm gonna say it's is Mother's Day more of a white uh more of a holiday for your wife or for your mother? I guess this is really only aimed towards one person here, but uh really just in general so that other people listening might be able to think about it as well.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

Uh so Brandon, is it it has been from from like my view it started to skew toward more for Megan, but Megan is really good about making sure that we do stuff for like my mom.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Yeah, too. So I feel like you're gonna celebrate both, but it's like, hey, let's go out to have like a brunch, you know. Is it like is it your family celebrating Megan, or is it, you know what I mean? Like or is it hey, we gotta invite, you know, my parents that my mom is getting celebrated as well, or you guys know.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

I feel like this is this this year was a little different, but I feel like in the past we've been good about like doing something like in the morning, like with us, like specifically for her, and then like figuring out something later in the day that would be for my mom. Yeah. So it's like a it's a it's it's a like I I don't want to say that it's become less about like my mom, but like obviously like my attention is divided between the two, but then also like with Meghan coming in, I feel like her she is picking up the slack of my divided attention to help like do things for my mom.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

Yeah, so if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Yeah. So it's like it's it's it's kind of like I don't know how much it's like detracted from that, but like like it like like in for me personally, it's it's like a it it's definitely like a I mean obviously it just becomes like a split.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Yeah. Yeah, because I mean I was thinking obviously we don't have the perspective of how a wife or mother feels on that day, so I'm not gonna speak on that, but at least we're kind of from a point of a father, right? From like Father's Day, and it's like, you know, I envision that when I'm old enough to have my kids that have their own kids that are my grandkids, like, dude, just like give me a call, be like, hey dad, what's up? How are things going? Happy Father's Day, cool. But like you're the one like in the thick of it with the kids, like doing it like it's your holiday now. Like, I don't, you know, I envision that's how I'll be like later on because that's how I am, you know. Like obviously, I you know, I give my dad a call and like you know, let him know I'm thinking of a you know, something like that. But I I mean I mean I guess Father's Day is not really on the same level as Mother's Day in general. No, yeah. Others Day, it's like there are expectations. Yeah. Others day it's like because I feel like most uh I mean, I think I I think this is a a a generalization of like the feelings of Mother's Day and Father's Day, like Mother's Day, like, you know, there's more of an expectation, like, hey, I want time with the family, you know, go out and have a nice brunch. Like, you know, they enjoy like the nice little presents from like the kids of like that they do in school, things like that. And I feel like most dads are like, yo, Father's Day, give me the day alone, you know, clear out, just give me a Sunday by myself where it's quiet and I am good. So I think that the expectations about the two holidays are a little bit different. I always but you know, but as we're coming into our own thing, I'm always interested in how that dynamic shifts.

SPEAKER_04 3:53

Uh I feel like you know, based on Brandon's thing, I realized like one of the things I dread about eventually uh getting married and stuff is that I don't know why. I feel like I'm almost certain my wife will make me take Mother's Day more seriously for my mom, if that makes sense. If she's culturally aligned with you, or regardless, regardless.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

She's just gonna pick up those vibes that like you know No, I I think it's well here's the thing, right?

SPEAKER_04 4:20

Our our family has always done stuff a little bit strangely, and maybe it was just because like we were immigrants or whatever, and also we were just not like a very like affectionate, like celebr uh celebratory family on like really much of anything. So like I get to go into Mother's Day weekend with like no plans or agenda, like I don't have to go home, like it's fine. Same with Father's Day, except like I if you think about it, I think like one reason why the vibe has shifted is like over time you realize like wow, this is one of those like holidays that like everyone takes very seriously. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I know it doesn't change what I'm doing, but I do feel like because it's so popular and generally like whatever, that like I'm probably gonna end up with somebody who's gonna be like, what are we doing for your mom? Like, like, are you gonna go see her? Like, I what like and I'm gonna be like, we don't have to. It's gonna be like, no, that doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, it it and and and it's funny that you mentioned that because I feel like to to if that uh two girls, the it's very important or it's a great quality for their significant other to have a good relationship with their mother. Like that is a very positive thing if the man that they're seeing or dating has a good relationship with their mother. So it so that kind of you know, I feel like that's kind of how it's it's shown because it's like, hey, how you treat your mother is how our kids are gonna treat me because it's setting an example for them, et cetera, et cetera. So I could totally see that.

SPEAKER_04 5:50

That even if you don't have one, that like your wife would be like, hey, start stepping up and being like, But that's the thing, it's like I would do stuff for my wife, and I would understand that where it's like, oh, we're starting a new thing, but it's like, listen, I don't mind doing this with you, but like me and my mom, we're not gay. We don't do that shit. What is this what is this affectionate bullshit? Oh, flowers? Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_01 6:13

Yeah, because I just know that Megan has brought that up to me. That's a very endearing quality in men to have like a good close relationship with their mother.

SPEAKER_04 6:19

And I'm like, I feel like that's also interesting. I feel like I've heard the opposite. Sorry, look down there. I I that's interesting. This is the first time I'm hearing like that as a thing, because so often I feel like I hear women who are like apprehensive about men who have too good of a relationship with their moms because it becomes like, oh, now I'm competing with her, but also like there's that now you you have expectations for me that are based on this. Like, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

That's interesting. Yeah, I could see both sides of it. Yeah, I you know, Megan's brought that up, and uh I don't know. I think it just shows that you're like in touch with their emotional side. Family means a lot to you, you respect that sort of relationship.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

Like, you know, there's all that stuff that's like projection, I think you were talking about like how you treat your your mother is like how they foresee it being passed down to set an example. So I I I get that.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

Well, so yeah, happy Mother's Day. Hope everyone had a good one. Cheers. Uh one more thing that I want to bring up because it happened a few weeks ago, and I kept uh I wanted to bring it up again, but I kept forgetting about it. We always talk about the name of our podcast that is not named right now. And you had a name.

SPEAKER_04 7:19

We just start every every episode with some very highly dumb.

SPEAKER_01 7:23

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a nonsense. So we talked about a little bit that the podcast could be it is it is what it is, right? Um, but like everyone has a podcast right now. Yeah. Right? But so a couple weeks ago, a podcast was in the news. The podcast was it is it is what it is. And who is it hosted by? Do you guys know? I had no idea.

SPEAKER_04 7:41

We've talked about this on the podcast before. I don't think we did. Yeah, dude. It was a very funny joke because I think it was like Brandon who said Cameron. No, me. Well, he said Cameron. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hosted by Cameron, and it's like, yeah, Cameron. Cameron or me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

So then so Cameron hosts his podcast, It Is What It Is. And it was the news because uh Jay Urso, who's Jay Uso? Jay Uso, sorry, who's uh who's a wrestler was on the podcast, and Cameron like insulted the shit out of him on the podcast. Who knows if it was real, fake, no, it was it was it was it was a promo.

SPEAKER_04 8:12

It was a beautifully cut wrestling style fake promo. Yeah. And so Jay Urso. And they've done a couple of those.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

Did you guys see there was one of those on, was it on ESPN? It was with Kyle Brandt, whatever he's on, some football show. But they had, I think it was like Seth Rollins was like on on the show promoting one of their pay-per-views or whatever, and they like got into a fight that I th actually think that the like the other co-hosts weren't aware that it was a uh like a bit, yeah. A bit for it. And like they like took it like really seriously, and it was it was really well done. And then he came back like the next day and like mended fences and came up that they are like boys still or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

But it's like, man, wrestling's been uh been been doing the And also the ESPN partnership is like it's really weird to me because before WrestleMania was like gross how much they were pushing it. Like every spot on the Sports Center had a restaurant that was promoting it.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

And then you got Pat McAfee crossing over into both, which is bringing even more.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Pat McAfee storylines over there. And I again I always feel like it's weird. I feel like we've talked about it on the podcast, but like it's just it's very odd because I'm not saying that it's not a sport, it's definitely an athletic, you know, you have to be in shape and it's very rigorous. But I mean it is scripted, right? So it just feels weird that it's like ESPN that's in these sports where it has all these dramatic moments and you never know what's coming and it's exciting, all this sort of stuff. That now they're they have this entity and that they're calling highlights on something that's scripted, you know. It's like it's like them calling a play, you know? It's like we it's like you know, all this stuff is fake, so it's they have to build this drama with it, and then they're trying to pronounce these names of these wrestlers. It just feels like a total departure from what their normal stuff is. Um, but yeah, but I just thought that was, yeah. If we did talk about it, I apologize for rehashing it. But it was in the news and I just thought it was funny that it is what it is, hosted by Cameron and Mace that I said earlier. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:56

I knew it was I was like I remember like uh you know, people are talking about and you know, these these clips get like promoted as if it's real, and so you see the caption, you're like, oh, I gotta check this out. And then immediately as I started watching it, I'm like, oh, this is fake. Like Cameron, I'm saying Cameron because you say Cameron. Cameron. Got him, got him. Cameron. I love Cameron, but like, my God, it's it's like I know when he's being genuine and when he's just like, I was like, this is a fake level of me. It was way over the top. Yeah, it was way over the top. But I will say he really showed his chops as like a comedic performer uh afterwards where he was like icing him, he had like ice on his shit. Yeah, yeah. And he pretended to like get mad at Mace for like not showing up for him, and Mace was like, yo, I was out there, man. I grabbed him. And then he was like, Oh, you was? All right, man, my bad. Like, I was like, Oh, this is pretty good. Like, he he's not actually hurt, but it's so funny. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

And it got into my streaming because on the uh because on the Lovetard show, one of the girls that does one of the sideshows for them is uh Trista uh Kick? Trista Kick, I think, whatever. But she was but she hosts, but she co-hosts that podcast every once in a while. So she was on it. So when that fight broke down, she was like jumping on the table and she was like ready to like get in there and scrap. They were like, what are you gonna do? You're like 5'10, you know? You're like a buck oh five. What are you gonna do against, you know, are you gonna be holding back this giant J Uso man? You know? Uh all right. Well, I just wanted to bring that up because I had it on here and I just forgot to bring it up. Uh all right, let's go into what's good. I'll just give mine real quick. Mine's very low-key, and I feel like it always comes back to an entertainment sort of thing. But I started Daredevil. Uh we talked about, or sorry, I started Daredevil Born Again, the new season that uh I think just has the finale or just ended last week. Yeah. Um But yeah, you know, I've talked about it before that's like you finish a really good show and then you're like apprehensive about starting a new show because like I'm not gonna get the same feeling. But like luckily, there have been very high quality shows that continue to be released. And so on the tail on the tales of Knight of the Seven Kingdom, that was very that was awesome. That was a really good watch. Uh same thing, I was like apprehensive about getting back to Daredevil, but then again, it takes like one episode and you're like, oh yeah, I'm right back into it. Characters are awesome, the story's great. The villain is like the most engaging villain possible, um, who's like carries the right, you know, fear uh that's like appropriate without being just like you know, a guy that's you know, like off of you know, just yeah off the uh off of the reservation. Like he's cold, calculated, but also like brutal when he needs to be or when he decides to be. So really enjoyable show, loving it. I'm like three or four episodes in uh and super into that. So that's good to hear.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

Because I I've I've had the same apprehensions after finishing Night of the Seven Kingdoms, and most of it was because season one, uh while I liked it, didn't quite hit the same as Netflix Daredevil. Yeah, like I'm I'm worried, I was worried about uh season two failing to live up to expectations too.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

Comfort because they were bringing up stuff from season one, and I was like, man, I don't really remember that. Well, this is very forgettable.

SPEAKER_04 13:09

We actually we've podcasted long enough that I remember I talked about this, but that was the whole thing where like they shot a bunch of they shot a full season. Could they change? So yeah, so the first season you gotta like give an asterisk to. The second season is like the people they brought in to rectify things are now running it from the start, and so the level of quality episode to episode is like massively up. My here's here's my take. I don't I don't know if Disney needs to switch to a drop all the episodes at once system because what I feel is uh having watched the show week to week, I'm like, this is so much better, like easily, like you know, a lot more engaging and better than uh season one uh naturally. But I'm like, this still doesn't hit necessarily in the same way as the Netflix Daredevil did. Um, and I think maybe it's like just not a show that's able to carry that momentum in week to week. You kind of need to be able to binge it to really, really love it. Um, so I mean, I'm glad you guys have kind of all the episodes available, but I will say the second piece, and I I'm I'm gonna rewatch this finale to see if I stand by this. I feel like the Netflix Daredevil has still had better seasons of Daredevil, but the finale of this season of Daredevil is the best episode of Daredevil I've seen. Period. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:29

Wow. High priest. Okay, man. Yeah, I'll have to I'll have to jump into that. But it's like the and I don't remember if I if when we talked about it before, if I had mentioned this. Like one of the like the weird things, like just the vibe seems different. And a lot of it is the music. Like, because it like they're using like popular music and like actual music versus having like a score done to it. Um I don't I it just seems really I didn't even like recognize that. Like it like takes me out of it. I thought that in season one that stood out a lot.

SPEAKER_04 14:56

Yeah. I think like season one finale ended with like Radiohead, like everything. Yeah, yeah, they had radiohead. They do a lot more, they do a lot more needle drops.

SPEAKER_02 15:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which which like can work. Like that's like the Batman, but the uh the uh Robert Pattinson one used a lot of like music like that that was done to set the tone. I thought that that that matched it really well. I don't know if it's just because Daredevil had like its own original like score to it and that kind of like set the tones and then that made it jarring. I don't know. For some reason that that just stood out as like a tone shift that was hard for me to wrap my head around.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

Man, where's the next Batman with Robert Padson? I thought that was.

SPEAKER_04 15:32

Dude, it's good, it's getting hype like crazy right now, though. Even though it's like we're not gonna we're not gonna see it until next year, but they're hyping the fuck out of it.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

It's like have they already shot it or shooting it? No, they're shooting it. They're shooting it. Nice.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Oh, but so it's coming, but it's just it's ridiculous that it's so like it's it's wild that it's that was. And that that movie was awesome.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

Love that movie.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

It's fantastic. I don't know why. Like I don't know. It's just the nature of things now.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

All right, Brandon, what you got for what's good?

SPEAKER_02 15:58

Uh I'll keep mine nice and short. Finale of American Idol just aired, and we are we're still watching it. Uh we're a couple weeks behind, so no idea how how it's ending. There's this contestant, this guy has the most unique voice I have ever heard in my life, and he is awesome. I have no idea if he's gonna win. Everybody seems to really like him, and I know just the way these competition shows like work out, it's not always like the best person that that ends up winning. But it it is like the first time in, and we've watched American Idol for a long time. There's been there's there's been hype and and obviously there's been some success stories that have come out of it. And again, not knowing where this guy's career is gonna end up going, he is something that I have never heard before in music at all, like let alone American Idol. His name is Brooks, I can't remember his last name. Um, but if you look up anything about him, if you listen to just a note about him, like it's I can't even describe it. Like words would fail in trying to describe what this guy is. I like the the the descriptor that stands out the most and is like the most apt is like he it's like androgynous. Like you like you listen to it and you have no idea like like the if you're trying to picture him, so tr listen to him without seeing him first. And if you try to picture what the what he looks like, you would have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

You'd have no clue.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

It is it's it's just insane. It's something that has to be has to be heard. But uh would highly recommend everybody check him out because that dude, that dude can he can sing, and the way that it sounds, I guarantee you for you've heard nothing like it before.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

That's awesome. Yeah, we used to watch American Idol, but started uh I didn't I didn't really enjoy it after the uh after they got to Hawaii because it just became very like cliche. It was like cool, I know who's good already. Like let's just you know, there's now just weeks of like, okay, we get it. It's like the same people are always gonna get good and good praise, uh, you know, after you like trimmed the fat at that point. And then once Katy Perry left, I was like, nah, alright, I'm good. Um but the last person I remember that was like that was uh Alejandro Alejandro, yeah. Yeah. So like is he similar to that or just like completely different?

SPEAKER_02 18:07

So Alejandro was something you've never heard before, like musically, like the stuff that he did on a guitar. And I wouldn't even say that it was stuff that you never heard before, because that's like a very like the the way that you jam on that guitar, not everybody does it, but there are people who play guitar like that. Um it was just that his the his the way he did it was very interesting. This is like interesting in a completely different way, because again, it's something that I I would not even have known how like these noises existed as a voice in this guy. All right, and it's Brooks. Sweet. Yeah, and I can't remember the last name off the top of my head.

SPEAKER_04 18:40

Yeah, nice, cool. Um, what you got? Uh so mine is and again I feel like mine are always more uh reflective of 36-year-old bachelor in New York life. Mine is just like hanging out uh with like people you don't know for a change or people you don't know that well, or maybe not even that far, like a hanging out with like a different dynamic than usual. I would say my like friend group in New York uh is largely like, you know, the bros from college, which effectively serve as like a family unit of sorts, right? Which is like we do like damn near everything together and like all of our you know weekends and stuff, we kind of like by default we're hanging out, and then you have like other friends who are part of the orbit, you know, who join or whatever. And uh, so my my two buddies were both uh gone this last weekend, and uh it's weird. It's reached a point where like sometimes they're not around, and like I have other friends, but I'll be like, oh, it's it's my chance to have me time. It's weird. I'll just be like, I don't even want to bother reaching out to several other friends who I should absolutely be taking more, like showing more, you know, like affection and love to. It's like you guys are also important to me. But yeah, whenever they're not around, sometimes I'm just like, oh yeah, I'll just get a bunch of shit done, I'll be productive and like spend some some time alone. Um, but you know, this weekend I was like, all right, like, you know, let's let's let's try to do something one one night at least, be social a little bit. Um so I ended up going and getting drinks with uh again, and then another friend who like uh we we see pretty pretty regularly, and then like this other friend of theirs who I've seen at a party here and there, but don't really know that well. So it's one of those like I don't know, it's just kind of like a very different situation uh or dynamic. And it was just really cool. Like it was just really nice. It's like, oh yeah, it's it's cool to just hang out with like a very different group. You also don't know what like the chemistry is gonna be when it's like a random combo of people. Yeah. And it just felt like that is also a it's also a little bit of a thing you don't realize you miss, you know. You kind of like avoid new situations or uncertain situations because you're like, I'm too old for this. Like I don't want, you know, I want to be around the people I like and I know and I'm comfortable with. Uh, but the other side of like doing this is when it when it clicks and you're kind of like just having like funny conversations, and you realize you can only have those with people that you know this well, if that makes sense. And sure. And there's so many new things you can learn about somebody that you can't with all the people that you maybe spend most of your time with because you know their lives so well already, you know. And so, like, you know, I'm never gonna have somebody be like, Yeah, so last time I was in Europe, I went to a sex club and I was like, What? We are talking about this, you know, and so it was just it was just very entertaining and fun. And uh it also is just a nice dose of like, yeah, it's it's worth it to like get out of, you know, the usual and make time to invest in like not necessarily trying to make new friends, but like being around other people every now and then and just seeing how it goes. Um so yeah, I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

Yeah, that's yeah, it's cool. It's interesting that you bring that up because I was thinking I thought about often about. like how how our like who you are when you're around other people. We've talked about this kind of in different topics, but on this one it's more of like when you're when you're with different groups of people, are you a chameleon that like kind of uh adjusts yourself and the things that you talk about to what those people are into and what they enjoy? Or are you, you know, because there are some people that are like they are who they are. Regardless of who they're with, it's like they're the dominant one, you know, that's like, hey, I'm gonna make these crude jokes. I'm gonna talk about these things that I like to talk about. You know, and like you guys are just along for the ride. And then I think that, you know, there's other people that are like, they're like feel out what the vibe is and we'll adjust the things that they talk about or how they act because it fits in that group of people. You know what I mean? So just like what you were talking about, how like you're like, oh you know, I only have jokes with these certain people because I know that they're gonna get it and it's their type of humor. You know what I mean? Interesting. That sort of way.

SPEAKER_04 22:53

Maybe I I would I don't even know if that would think about it that way. I think for me it's like uh rather than being a chameleon, I probably have versions of myself that I know uh when to deploy. Um and my real resistance to inviting situations with people I don't know or like you know unfamiliar dynamics is not even me thinking about like can I make the jokes I normally make. It's more of like I don't have to think about it. I don't have to try. I could just be right but as soon as it's like a slightly different dynamic I'm more conscious uh more cognizant of like whatever is happening and whoever I'm being uh so yeah I don't feel like I'm being like a different person but it might just be like what is the spectrum of how much of myself I'm getting to be and also you know a lot of it is like as we're at the age now I unfortunately this is some real Clint Eastwood old man shit. You're like you start to just get tired of like having to talk to people that you don't want to be talking to like if you've ever had like if you've talked to somebody and you're like this conversation fucking blows you're kind of like I don't want to be around this person again. Oh I don't have time for this shit. Yeah yeah 100% yeah and you know like that's that's that's what maybe keeps you away from like foreign you know stuff in general uh so yeah it but but it was the flip side of that is that when it's when it's good it does open up opportunities to like talk about stuff that you don't talk about with people that you've known for so long because you've known them for so long.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

You already know what their reaction is to some of the other things where getting to fill it out with somebody new gives you a chance to like talk about some of that stuff that just doesn't come up.

SPEAKER_04 24:26

Absolutely but also I think uh you know I'm I didn't articulate this in the beginning but the thing I really loved about it is when you feel like you've decided what you think of somebody and then they surprise you with like stuff you didn't know about them. And you find yourself being like damn I maybe judge this person too quickly. Like I actually there's a tender kind of thing inside here that like I appreciate and I connect with I relate with this I relate with this version of this person not the first impression or the second but like you know and then there's a I don't know there's there's a kind of like magical like oh my god we're all human beings and like it's so nice to be connected in this way.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

I really I really appreciated that everybody's everybody's got layers and you can get to where there's redeeming stuff yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

And in a similar vein like we were talking about when you go into these situations with people just like you were saying like there are certain parts of yourself that maybe you don't bring to the forefront because you know you don't know how the other person's gonna react if they feel the same way. And then that person's doing the same thing when they meet you when like the parts that you guys could connect on could be parts that you guys are both like intentionally ignoring. You know when it's like hey man like you know I really like rom coms you know as like a 36 year old man like you're like oh man like most people probably wouldn't really like connect with that. But like that person that you talk to might love rom coms as well but it's like neither of you guys are talking about it. So like you guys just never connect on it and you go your separate ways because you because you're like hiding those parts of you you know yeah yeah that's yeah that's really interesting. I was just super interested on those social stuff. Cool. Uh you you started off by saying that it's a very like unique like you know single guy living in New York sort of thing. In the context of this podcast. Yeah yeah uh but I had one that I think applies to as well that I thought of because I was in uh I was in Hawaii it was just like an overnight in Hawaii um it actually was really interesting because it was a lot of flight time you know 10 hours there 10 hours back and went to Providence came down so like there's a lot of time in the plane having a uh having a bank of trivia that I could go through with everyone was perfect. It was perfect to pass the time. Uh so this podcast really benefited in that way. And so I was walking around Waikiki and there's a whole bunch of places to eat bunch of different like restaurants and you know unique eatery places. Is this another gay guy at a burrito bar video? Okay, okay it's not all right man I was supposed to be going there this weekend but I I woke up this morning that I traded out of the trip uh so it freed up my Saturday but I was like oh man I'm not going to say Juan that waiter's gonna be so disappointed I know man I was like huh I could have could have seen how how how our relationship developed anyway so I'm walking around right and there's a bunch of food places and I see people like walking by and they're like look up at a restaurant like look at it and then they'll just go in to like eat there. And I and like it dawned on me that to me personally at least that's a wild uh occurrence like I cannot imagine just walking around and not seeing looking at a place and just be like yeah that looks good I'm gonna go in there like I can't imagine doing that and not looking it up on Google Maps and like seeing the reviews on it and seeing like what type of food. You know what I mean? Like either A, if I'm leaving my place, I've already decided where I'm going. You know like in my hotel room I've like looked it up, seen like what I want to eat and I picked out a place that has a the right number of stars that has good reviews, things that I want to eat and I'm going to that place. So like I can't imagine just going out without a plan. But then B, I can't imagine looking at a place be like this looks good, but then just like just going in and just experiencing it like raw, you know, without looking it up because I feel like if I found a place and I looked it up and it was like three stars, I'd be like, nope, not going there. Like way too low. So I'm interested how, you know I think this is obviously Sarab because you're probably in this situation more often than not but what percentage of time are you eating or going to any place doesn't really have to be food related but what percentage are you going to a place that you know that you know nothing about that you have not looked anything about it. You've just walked in there because it looks cool or it looks good.

SPEAKER_04 28:24

Uh rarely but not to say that it's because I do what you do like I feel like there is uh there have been moments and days where um we're out and there's almost like the thrill of let's stumble into a place that we want to get food at and just see what happens uh there's certain things you want to make sure like you check you look at the vibe you look at who's in there is it empty like whatever and so there's some certain signs we like at but we but I will say I've never been the in those moments I am not a guy who's like let me also now go online and check Google reviews. Like if I'm physically there I'm not by yourself though if you're with a group of people yeah you don't want to be that guy to like put against the grain but no but even by myself I would say I'm to me I would be more likely to research if I'm with people because if I'm by myself I like rolling the dice but with people I'm more of like I need to care about like what people are saying so that I don't feel like I'm steering people the wrong way. So so if I'm alone like yeah I'm all about like picking up a vibe and be like oh let's go and let's just see what happens. I also just feel like I'm generally like a low maintenance not a low expectations guy but like I'm easy to please and so it's hard for me to like I I've never had an experience going somewhere and been like this is horrible. I've had like a this wasn't what I thought or like it wasn't great but it was it's never been like I'm gonna remember this shit. Like you know it's clearly why I don't feel the need to to to do that research separately. When it comes to planning dinners and like when when there's a whole thing of like we're gonna go get food somewhere that is when uh I feel like I've done a ton of research and it's like you know you you're deep in the reviews and you're kind of like I'm looking for a name that matches the ethnicity of the restaurant because that's whose opinion I trust about the food here. Like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna have Gary tell me that Tatika masala is great and I'm gonna trust that I'm like fuck that shit. I need to know what you know like Subramanium thinks like tell me that shit. Is it really spicy or not? So yeah that the that word goes in there but yeah not not in like real life.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

Yeah and like I feel like it it it also helps that you're like embedded in it. Like you live in this cultural explosion of where you have all these options there where you're eating there very often so you can afford to like experiment see what's out there where I feel like my mind says like if I'm in a place I'm like man who knows like this could be my only time being here. I don't know like I got to make sure that when I eat at this place like it's got to be a good place. Yeah exactly it's like there's there's obviously good places here. Yeah like I want to find some place that's a good place for this location that I'm at because I might never be back and I don't want to like waste it. You know so there's a little bit of that as well.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

But branded I mean there is something to there is something to be said for like especially if there's like Waikiki Beach where it's like there's a bunch of options there. If it's a place where like you can't really go wrong it's nice to like just go out and walk and take it in. That's a an experience where it's it's more the experience of going out to eat versus the meal itself where you just want to kind of like walk around find something like just looking at a place and and going in without seeing a menu I don't know that I could do that. Like I don't I don't know that I could just roll the dice go in there and find out that there's like just nothing here that actually looks that great. Like that's that's bold to me but I feel like most places had them on the outside and and like like just wandering around and taking a peek at what they say they have and and then jumping in. I I think that's yeah and this is to say that a different experience.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Yeah that I like miss that and I wish I could do that because a a lot of what it is is the first stuff that Sarab said is like vibes and are there people there. You know like that should be enough like hey if if it's a if it's a happening place that has a bunch of people in there it's probably pretty good and if vibes are high like you're gonna you know enjoy yourself in there. So like I wish that I could have those experiences be like man looks good vibes check people check smells good. Alright we're in you know we'll find something good here. But yeah uh all right where we at um we've uh we did on this podcast where we had a question of uh moments that you remember where you were when they happened and I think the one that I took out because I was like well no I took out September 11th but the other major one I think all of us mentioned was Michael Jackson's death um and uh I was reminded of of that again and it made me think of is there are we have we moved beyond those uh those monumental celebrity or person you know is there someone now that if they died that it would that would have the same cultural reaction and shock and send the same shock waves that someone you know that Michael Jackson's death did?

SPEAKER_04 33:11

Well so my answer is no but I think it's there's nuance there right is like I think there's people who are going to die who like I might genuinely like get watery eyed over.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

Um but I also feel like it's like the world kind of stops for a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 33:33

Yeah I feel like it's things are so fragmented now yeah in terms of who's following who like you know you're gonna have like your kids fucking crying over like some streamer someday right like you know and you're gonna be like who is that like oh I'm sorry I'm sorry buddy like that sucks. Right like you're not gonna like you're gonna be what and um so who everyone is following and invested in is is fragmented incredibly so to me it's like weirdly as you were talking I was like the first person that came to mind I don't know why is like a it's like okay like Conan O'Brien like Conan O'Brien uh like Billy Crystal like and these are all kind of like these older like guys who we almost like watched movies of when we were little kids so like they have like a they've like emotionally imprinted on us in some ways um and then we've gotten to like watch them through you know our lives now uh I think everyone's always gonna find someone who maybe whose death will like move them and shake them in a certain way. In terms of like the collective of the world right I don't know who can do that anymore outside of like I don't know like people in power.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

Yeah well yeah there's the political implications of it.

SPEAKER_04 34:44

Yeah like like if there's a really really beloved like political person but finding finding one that's a universal that's also hard.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

Like like I was thinking like like like if Obama kicked it like all of a sudden like that would be the closest thing but I'm sure that as sad as it is I don't even I don't even know that that would be universal.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

And that would yeah universal like you know worldwide you know people in China you know people in China shedding tears for you know maybe not but is that just because go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

I was gonna say I I definitely think that there are people like personally that I would feel that about like the the at that level and the thing that I like for some reason I don't know why it's uh the way I'm thinking of it is like would they have like a TV special dedicated to them about their death? Like I'm thinking about like I remember there being like all kinds of specials about Michael Jackson right after he died like Princess Diana had like this like concert with like Elton John and all these people performing like do I think people would come together like that for somebody who like would die now Taylor Swift maybe so that's one that came the closest that I can think of so that's one that I thought of and I and that's what made me think that like I think it happened it it matters like the timing and the nature of it right like if Taylor Swift tomorrow got into like a car accident and died that would be like that would be huge you know but like 40 years from now or 50 years from now she just dies of you know old age and I think people like oh man Taylor Swift I agree though but yeah I don't know but it does matter because like the there's the the one direction guy who died and it does seem like when someone is taken early even if you didn't know or care that much or follow them like the world does feel like it stops.

SPEAKER_04 36:30

It might not be about the level of celebrity or their following it is like the collective sense of like this is unfair uh that does get people like you know paying attention. I mean like the what was it the Rob Reiner stuff with like him and his wife like that was crazy. Yeah that that to me was one of the more jarring like I noticed that everybody like at least as my But do you think that was like worldwide?

SPEAKER_02 36:53

No Tom Cruise might reach that level though like if it was if it was him like e even if he didn't die tragically like like Rod Breyer did.

SPEAKER_04 37:04

You know who might but with Tom Cruise again I feel like it it needs to be like it not that it needs to be but like the like Robert Redford passed right and uh I do think not to say that him and Tom Cruise had the same careers but like he was at a time like one of the most like like incredible star and like beloved whatever but he you know lived a very long life and I'm pretty sure like died of like natural causes of just like age and stuff. And I did notice that I was like okay people are like very real about his contributions to film and everything but it's not like a thing that's becoming a discussion for a couple days. Right.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

The the reason why I would think that Tom Cruise might be somebody that would bridge that divide is because of he's had a long career but I feel like he's been relevant like to like Robert Redford got old and then was like kind of getting like these bit parts and like some of the newer generation didn't know. But I feel like like with the new Top Gun movies and with like the Mission Impossible movies that there are younger people who like weren't around for the Tom Cruise prime who would recognize Tom Cruise and know like oh that's a like that's a movie star. You know what I mean? Or I feel like Robert Redford probably didn't have that for the like Gen Z.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

I was thinking someone someone that might uh is Michael Jordan. I feel like when Michael Jordan dies I feel like that's gonna be a that because Kobe kinda had that too. Yeah. But his was also like taking too young into like a really tragic like a really tragic nature you know I feel like even if Michael Jordan just like when when he eventually dies whether it's even if it's of like old age I feel like that's gonna be like world woe.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

And I think that's like that's great. Teddy Teddy is really into Michael Jordan. Yeah like just just by basketball just kind of like like it's just kind of one of those generations he's never seen a game like we I didn't show him the last dance or anything like that. Looking forward to when he's old enough watching that with him because it I think he'll really enjoy it. But like Teddy knows is aware of Michael Jordan. If I told Teddy that Michael Jordan died it would rock his world.

SPEAKER_01 39:05

Yeah. I saw that he I think Jordan's probably on that level yeah I saw that he did uh you know because Michael Jordan is in NASCAR now he's a team owner and his team is doing really well there and they're winning a lot and I forget he did an interview a few weeks ago forget who it was like Gil King or someone or something like that. Sat down with him and uh and basically he articulated like why NASCAR like why he's getting into NASCAR it's because he has the ability to like more be himself and uh you know he was like man when I go to a basketball game like I'm I'm a god there you know like there's so much attention on me and reverence to me you know not being I mean hey it's Michael Jordan like you can't be you know it's kind of hard to be humble when you are that type of person but he's like you know like they're like I'm I like I'm like this idol you know where wherever I go wherever I walk like yeah people are you know you know they're like scared to come up to me and talk to me and things like that. But like when I'm a NASCAR like you know people around me all the time and it's like I'm just another owner here. Like I'm not MJ this something makes them stand out at NASCAR oh for sure yeah well yeah I mean like you see that video where he put his hand around uh yeah uh Denny Hamlin's neck and he had this this huge hand came around his neck just like enveloped him completely like holy shit that is a big ass person uh he sticks out for sure but it was just that like you know he is this huge huge person um in the world of basketball at the very least whereas in NASCAR it's like the exact opposite of basketball you know like the demographic of who's watching NASCAR is probably starkly different than what is basketball. So like people there are like oh yeah that's that guy MJ. Okay cool. But like it's not treated the same way.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

So uh I feel like him talking about his like aura and presence and how he likes to you know he has a one of his he keeps one of his cars that he owns because he he owns a bunch of race cards at the at like the Millville Motor Speedway like down in South Jersey like right by Megan's parents. Yeah I'm surprised at how uh celebrity driven uh South Jersey is between like trout and the yeah yeah MJ has it but it's but I think I think there's an element of it in that like it's kind of like the middle of nowhere. Yeah it's it's out of the way and I think he like I think he probably does that so he can go and race his car and he doesn't have like he's not mobbed there. And it's easy enough to get to from New York or from Philadelphia or from wherever you're going.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

Yeah so I mean maybe MJ does it.

SPEAKER_04 41:31

I mean it'd be weird if MJ also had the same reaction as MJ but I think a bigger point is on some level I feel like we are moving away from I mean we've moved so far away from a monoculture we I I don't know that there will be people that whose whose deaths like that's like I'm trying to think of like who is a global who's who's like a global superstar like e like even in sports. Who's someone who emerged in like the last five years that you think is like it's just everything's so fragmented and siloed and like you know I everyone's algorithm is different.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

They're all getting shown different things and like YouTube, you know you just spend days on YouTube and again it's just leading you where your algorithm is and that's gonna be totally different than the person next to you.

SPEAKER_03 42:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

Man we always get down there to where it's like things suck now. Things are worse than they have been they're different. They're different yeah it's just like we're just harder to come to consensus yeah we're just not as connected. Everyone's doing their own thing now.

SPEAKER_02 42:30

That is true which is so weird because like we're more connected than ever.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:33

Yeah like literally but it's just it's just harder to find it's harder to find broader common ground. It's easier to find your niche common ground. And I feel like that's where everybody kind of goes to they they find their specific interests that are like you would maybe have a like a specific thing that you're into but then there was also this thing that everybody was into that you also enjoyed and you all got to share that. But people are kind of gravitating toward their specific interests because they're it's easier to find and it's easier to find a community that's around that specific interest for you.

SPEAKER_01 43:02

Right. But having it be that specific is you know the the negative side of it is that it becomes an echo chamber, right? Like you're finding people that are into this such specific you know topic that are going to feel the exact same way that you do about certain issues and you know life, whatever it is. So like your opinions are just you're all sharing the same opinions without getting a bigger representation of you know different people out there with different perspectives and different opinions. You know just everyone's in their own echo chamber repeating all the same stuff that they want to hear and believe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

And well all right cool uh all right we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna bring it up from here we promise uh I'll I'll I'll give a before we move into uh it's the last one before we go into this week in history uh I just want to give a quick update on Luke's baseball team because I just have to get it off my chest. So my update was that he was starting baseball his team last year really good professional Handle themselves really well. Initially, this year, the team did not show that that way. It was a team that had all been together and played T-ball last year and are now playing coach pitch this year. Practice were disorganized, kids were all over the place. It was a mess. Obviously, we're like three quarters of the way through the season and ends at the end of it. But a couple instances have come up and it um makes my blood boil. So I'm a competitive person by nature. So I understand that about myself. Um, but I also think that as Brandon has mentioned here as well, that having that competition, the kids really enjoy and feed off of that. They're invested in it when you're keeping score and when there are stakes involved and you know who's winning and who's losing. You have to manage emotions and how they feel. But this is kind of like the perfect time to do that, is how you manage expectations. Um there's a lot of benefits of that. So I understand that like I'm competitive, but I think there's benefits of that competition. And last year it was just like that, right? The team they kept score, they won every game except for two. They were in the playoffs, they knew what was going on, it was all good. Uh, so this And not everybody makes the playoffs in this league, right?

SPEAKER_02 45:03

Which is good.

SPEAKER_01 45:04

There's which is okay. You cannot win everything in life. In fact, you are gonna lose way more than you win. And so the nature of it.

SPEAKER_02 45:13

It's supposed to be competitive, right?

SPEAKER_01 45:14

And it makes it more exciting when you do make it to the playoffs, you've actually earned something and you've achieved it, etc. Yeah. Uh so there have been a couple times now in this season, and I'm just beside myself sitting next to Megan, and I can't believe what's going on. So uh, number one, like the second game of the season. So the first games, I've been like, I don't even know what's going on. It's really hard to follow like what this coach is doing here. Like the second or third game of the season, uh, our team's up at bat. First, you know, the team's not that great. So we make three outs pretty quickly, and then the other team starts to run in from the field. And our coach goes, Oh, no, no, no, we're just gonna bat around. And the other coaches are like, He did this more than once? Well, different. So did I bring that up in the podcast? I don't know if I mentioned that to you uh offline or if I did on the podcast, but he was just like, Oh, yeah, we're just gonna bat around. And the other coaches are like, What does that mean? What so bat around means that like we're just gonna have everyone on the team bat, regardless of outs or runs or anything like that. Okay, he was just like, Yeah, yeah, we're just gonna bat around. Which like Wait, what is how does an inning end then? Uh when the entire team has gotten up to bat.

SPEAKER_04 46:13

Interesting because we had 12. So it's not like two outs, three outs, and then you switch.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

No, no, no. The rules are that it's three outs. Yeah. You switch. Our coach was just like, no, no, no, we're just gonna have every kid bat every inning. And the other coaches were like confused, and like you can see the other parents are on the sideline, like, what the hell's going on here? Because like it matters. Like wins and losses matter because there are playoffs, and if teams are tied, run differential matters. So like I get it, they're six and seven. Like, should that stuff matter? Regardless of whether you think it does or doesn't, the rules of the league are in place for a reason, and that's how they operate. You can't just make up your own rules because that affects other teams' wins and losses and run differential. You can't just decide to have every kid hit. So I'm sitting there on the sideline. I'm like, oh, please crush him. Like, I the fact that he's just making up rules, like, you can't do that. Like, I'm like, this is not this is not how the game's played. Like, there's so much to teach from this, and you're just missing everything on this. So, luckily, one of the parents went and found one of the league commissioners that was like at the game and like explained him what was happening. So then the next inning, that guy from the league came out. They brought in all of the coaches together, and after that, we were doing three outs, and then you're switching teams. I'm like, Thank God. Like, you can't just do that. So now two games ago, two games ago, uh, we were having one, and uh, and so uh, and so the rule is that it's three strikes or six pitches, is what each batter gets. And get to six pitches, cool, you're on. Which is sometimes it's a little messy because like with coach pitch, like they can be all over the place. So sometimes like the kid will never get a good pitch to hit. It's like, well, all right, man, you're out, which is kind of a bummer. But like you have to draw the line somewhere. I get it. Uh so anyway, so uh so our coach was pitching to our teammates, and uh, and three strikes came on like the third pitch. The kids swung every time. He's like, Okay, you're out. So everyone's like, all right, cool. Like, you know, we're switching innings. And our coach, again, he'd be like, oh no, we're just gonna do the six pitches. And then again, the coaches are like, oh man, it's three strikes and you're out. Like, that's like that's a game. You don't just keep because doing it on purpose at this point, like what the fuck? Yeah, like he's doing it because he's treating it like T-ball. Like he's treating it like this stuff doesn't matter, right? Like it's he hasn't made the jump of like T-ball had their own rules and expectations. Coach pitch, where you have kids that are eight years old that have been in here for three years doing it, that it had it's a different league with different rules, and you can't just make things up. So again, the parents are like you can see them on the sideline. They're all talking to each other and like wondering what's going on. They're pulling up their phones, and they found the rules, and their coaches talked to our coaches, and uh, and everyone on our sideline, the coaches and parents, we're all in like a tizzy. Like, well, this team, they want to, you know, strict adherence to the rules, so that's what we've got to do. So all the parents are on board with because they're all this team has all been together except for us. We're the only ones that haven't. So I'm sitting there like, thank god, thank god. Megan's like, I wanted to go and thank the parents on the other side for actually like saying something and doing because like I'm not gonna be the only one on my own team, but like our games last two hours, and it's like, what are we doing? Everyone's up at bat. You're getting you know, six pitches to everyone, like they take forever. When it's like you kind of have to learn, like, like practice is the time to get better and improve. The games is where you follow the rules, and how and however the cards fall, that's what you're gonna get. And um, so I I am uh looking forward to moving on to another team next year because like this stuff just it does not drive with me. And I can't believe that he keeps and he keeps trying to do it so nonchalant. Oh, yeah, we're just gonna bat around. Yeah, we're just gonna give him six pitches, and like the other people, thank God, they call him out and be like, no, those aren't the rules. Like, you can't you can't just do that. Uh so I just um I'm always beside myself at these games. Like this coach is just playing fast and loose to the rules, and it's at the detriment to the kids, I think.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

So uh that's my rant. It's wild that he got that he like got to the point of coaching the team in this league and under the impression that he could do that.

SPEAKER_01 50:15

That he could just do his own thing and that everyone else would be cool with it. So I don't like I get the feeling that he just like didn't read the rules very closely. Or read the wrong rules. Um all right, cool. Let's uh let's roll in. Survive you got what you got for this week in history. This week in history.

SPEAKER_04 50:34

Also, I'm like, what's going on? I don't know. I feel like with Claude, man, like it's kind of a weird, weird amount of issues. I'm almost like I gotta maybe go back to ChatGPT for certain things.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

Not the that's what I've been winding back up on, is ChatGPT.

SPEAKER_04 50:48

It's it's like I don't know what's going on with the quality has just gone to shit. Like it's still good for my you know personal uh you know reflective stuff, but yeah, I had to work so hard to get five semi-decent history fun facts.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

It's because Claude learned that it could lie to you and you didn't and that you're too dumb enough. You're just dumb enough to buy it. I'm just dumb enough to buy it. I'm just I'm just I'm just falling for it. Saw all of the movies where AI could lie.

SPEAKER_04 51:16

It just specifically read the script of her, and it's like, I'm gonna seduce this man.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

That's it.

SPEAKER_04 51:22

When I figure out the Scarlet Johansson voice. Um okay. So uh let's start with uh May 11th, 1997. IBM supercomputer Deep Blue defeated chess world chap champion Gary Kasparov, becoming the first machine to beat a reigning champion in a full match under standard tournament rules. What a loser. Yeah, yeah. That feels so stupid. Right? This one was kind of interesting. So you know how like all our like all like butter knives and stuff for the most part, like the knives that are like we use with like most eating are rounded at the top. Yeah. So the reason for this is May 13th, 1637, uh Cardinal Richelieu fed up with inner guests picking their teeth with knife tips, ordered his cutlers to round off all the blades, and the style caught on across French nobility uh and eventually spread throughout Europe.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

Uh is Cardinal Richelieu a real person? For some reason, I thought that that was from like it what is he in Count of Monte Cristo?

SPEAKER_04 52:38

I have no idea, but this is a real person whose real name that is. And it's not like he invented the rounded knife, but he's widely credited with making it the standard. And I was like, that's such a funny kind of curb your enthusiasm origin story of just being tired of people doing a gross thing with a knife and be like, round them all.

SPEAKER_01 52:56

I don't want to see this anymore. I I don't know. I just I just googled that and it says Cardinal Richelieu is not a character in Alexander Dumas' The Count of Monte Cristo, but rather the primary antagonist in Dumas' The Three Musketeers.

SPEAKER_02 53:07

The three musketeers, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wrong way.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Okay, okay. Um, yeah, I like that I just like the thought of him doing it like secretly, be like, yo, I'm so fed up with these people picking their teeth. Yo, dude, can you do me a favor and just round off all of the knives so that they can't do it? And then at the next dinner party, the guests are like, oh, what the hey, dude, what's up with these some of these knives? They don't have the picks. I can't, I you know, I can't get in my teeth.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

He's like, Oh, what everybody just does food hanging from their teeth now.

SPEAKER_01 53:33

They're just awful. And he's like, Who did that? Who made all my knives round? That son of a bitch. Who is that? You know, he just did it secretly and just didn't own up to it.

SPEAKER_04 53:43

Yeah. Like, it's uh there's more to the story, too. And I'm like, I don't just I I also get grossed out even talking about people picking their teeth, so I'm just not gonna go into it. Um, the rest are not as interesting, but just kind of interesting facts. Uh, most people think Mickey Mouse debuted in Steamboat Willie, but his actual first screen appearance was in a silent short called Plane Crazy. Plane is in airplane. Airplane. Yeah. Test screened on May 15th, 1928. It failed to find a distributor. Steamboat Willie came later and became so famous that it's now mistakenly remembered as Mickey's debut.

SPEAKER_02 54:24

I imagine it's probably I imagine it being the same exact like animation and movie, but it was like, ah, maybe go for the plane. Let's put them on a boat. Let's just do it on a boat and see if see if they like both.

SPEAKER_04 54:35

Let's see if this works. We'll see if this works. Next one is one that I personally uh adore. In May 16th, 1933. Oh, nice. Wow. Yeah, it held 400 cars and advertised with the slogan, the whole family is welcome, regardless of how noisy the children are. The cost was 25 cents per car plus 25 cents per person. His patent was ruled invalid in 1950. Oh man. Yeah, man, you can't patent a parking lot with a screen.

unknown 55:08

Right.

SPEAKER_04 55:09

But I feel like the name drive-in-off, whatever it was. And then last but not least, but also kind of tied to what we were talking about earlier. May 16th, 1983, Michael Jackson debuts the moonwalk on TV. The Motown 25 special aired on NBC. Nickel Jackson performed Moonwalk on television for the first time during Billy Jean.

SPEAKER_02 55:29

Yeah, I wonder, I recently came across a bunch of clips um that were like showing all the like inf like there was all of the influences that have gone by. Apparently there was like some I don't even know what kind of acts they were, but there were other people that they have footage of doing a moonwalk like before he did it. Like obviously he did it on like national television. I think this is just like somebody had a video of it. And then there's this other, there's this like choreographer who I didn't realize, but apparently it's like well documented that he is this big that Michael Jackson has like named him as this big influence and he like dances just like like Michael does.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

Oh yeah, I saw a clip of that going viral. It was um he's like a he's a guy and like and he was in some movie. Yeah, there's like an old movie clip.

SPEAKER_02 56:13

It's an old movie, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:14

And someone shared it, and it's like a guy just doing Michael Jackson moves, but in a very different context. But if you pay attention, you're like, holy shit, these are these are all the classic Michael Jackson moves.

SPEAKER_02 56:25

He's like he's like outside and it's like a desert scene or like something like that. It's like him and a kid, like a bunch of dirt, a Tim and a Kidd.

SPEAKER_04 56:31

I think it was is like a litter it was called the Little Prince movie or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, that's so interesting.

SPEAKER_02 56:38

Yeah, I don't I don't and uh that's uh maybe it was because uh the moonwalk thing was going around and then that that circulated. But I I saw that same thing, and I I a bunch of people were saying that this is like a known fact and that he's he's talked about him a bunch of times, but I had no idea that he had somebody that was like that influential because you look at him dancing, you're like, oh, this is an old guy doing Michael Jackson moves, but really he's the guy that I guess taught everything to MJ.

SPEAKER_01 57:01

Are line dances dead? Like, are we come no no no are we coming out with new line dances? Oh like obviously the classics will always be, but like I feel like the last one is the wobble, right? I feel like that's pretty well known in recent memory.

SPEAKER_04 57:14

But after that, are we done making line dances? You know, I don't actually know. I feel like maybe there's certain places that still are doing it and we just don't know because we don't go.

SPEAKER_02 57:24

You think that could be we're just that could be more of us being out of touch than them not? Yes, we've just aged out of it.

SPEAKER_04 57:29

But I feel like people like I know people in New York love going to there's this like one um like kind of a country bar, and people love going there just to do line dancing. And I'm line no so line dancing uh as like the actual dancing. I know no, but my point is if you went there, maybe you would learn that there's new songs. But what's the line dances?

SPEAKER_02 57:52

What's that one clip of that like guy that gets really into the line dance? He's like jamming out, you know what I mean? The old guy? You guys would you guys would know this video clip if you if you've seen it because it like goes everywhere. Uh I can I don't even know what song it is, but it's I feel like it's a line dance, like it's a more recent meme clip thing that's been out. And I don't I don't even know what song it is, but I I gotta think that that's more recent than well the one that the the recent one that feels like it had that line dance potential.

SPEAKER_01 58:22

Um, you know uh The Get Up by Blanco Brown? Blanco Brown? Maybe oh yeah, yeah. You know that one? You'll know it if you hear it. Yeah, yeah. Like that one, that one feels like a line dance song, but I feel like it never really like took off. Like the song is catchy, but I feel like you never really uh like you know, I've never heard I mean, I guess I'm not at dance places anymore to know if it is or isn't, but I don't know. Um all right, you guys are s for some trivia? Let's do it. All right. I'm tapping back in to the thick, thick vein of sports.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

Oh, you said thick vein, I was thinking something different.

SPEAKER_01 58:58

Thick, girthy vein of sports. They have to. It's too, it's too uh it's too lucrative to not. So, so what I'm doing on this one. So it's a game of 501. You guys both start at 501. You guys are going to make guesses uh of individuals that correlate to a number that will subtract from 501. Both of you have to have to subtract to get below zero, but the person but the person who is closest to zero after going below is the winner. Does that make sense? So if you but if you so if you go too far below zero, also bad? It's whoever's closest to zero after going below zero, right? So if someone ends with negative fifty and the other person lands with negative negative twenty. Or yeah, whichever one. Whoever's closest to zero after going below zero is the winner. All right. Okay. So uh the topic is going to be from our most recent NFL season, total catches. Okay. So you name a player, I will then reveal how many catches that player had, and then that's the number that gets subtracted from five and one one. Okay. So you so then you guys go back and forth naming players until you guys both get below zero. And then the person who's closest, right? So as you get smaller, as as your score gets smaller, you don't want big numbers anywhere anymore, right? You want smaller numbers.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:15

You want to be as close to zero as possible without going into the negative. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:19

No, you have to go negative. No, you have to go negative. But you have to go negative.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:22

You have to go negative.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:22

Okay. But you don't want to go too negative, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

Gotcha, gotcha, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, sure. Okay. Uh, all right. So uh I think I discussed with Sarat that he went first last week. So, Brandon, it is over to you. I'm gonna go uh JSN. Okay. Jackson, Smith, Jigba. He ranked third amongst all receivers with 119. Went off at the end. Oh, here we go. Okay, so Brandon is at 382. All right. So JSN is off the board. Sarav over to you. Uh I'm gonna go Puka. Puka Nakua is Sarav's pick. Puka was fifth amongst all receivers with 112 uh catches. So that brings Sarav to 389 and Brandon at 382. All right, back to Brandon.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

See, I don't want to go I don't want to go too far.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:12

Let's go Rome Adunze. Rome Adunze was 50th amongst all receivers with 44 catches. So that brings Brandon down to 338. And Sarab at 389. So you can still afford to make to take some big swings. You're still in the 300. So Sarab, over to you. Am I allowed to say Christian McCaffrey? Yeah. Yeah. It's catches. All right. Christian McCaffrey was first among all running backs and eighth overall among all players with 102 uh catches. So that's a good one. That brings Sarab down to 287 and Brandon at 338. All right, back to you, Brandon.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:48

Gonna go Stephon Diggs.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:50

Stephon Diggs on the Patriots. I don't know if he's still with them.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:55

Oh, I don't know. I think he got in trouble with that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:56

He had some legal troubles, but he was just cleared of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:59

Yeah, I don't I don't know what his status is.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

But Stefan Diggs was ninth among all wide receivers. Surprisingly high. That is high.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:06

That's way higher than I thought.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:08

Yeah. He had 85 catches. So that brings Brandon down to 253 and Srav at 287. Back to Srav. Uh I want to go Debo. Debo Samuel. I'm gonna guess his number is fairly low because he was injured for a lot of this year.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:25

Maybe on um blurring seasons now.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:27

Yeah, last year he was on the commanders. I mean, still not bad. He was 19th among all wide receivers with 72 catches. That's more than I would have thought.

unknown 1:02:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:36

Brings Strong to 215 and Brandon with 253. Over to you. Let's go. I'll go uh Jamar. I was waiting for that one. So Jamar, I think, is going to be at or very near the top of this list. So he was second amongst all receivers with 125. So that takes a big dent. You're now at 128. And Sarab's at 215. All right, Sarab.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:00

Oh, why am I blanking on this guy's name? Uh I'm just gonna go Jalen Waddle.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:06

Jalen Waddle. Now a last year a member of the Dolphins, now a member of the Broncos. Interesting where they go. So he was 27th among all wide receivers. He had 64 catches. So that brings Sarab down to 151 and Brandon at 128. I'm gonna go Devon Vele. That's a that's a poll. How many do you think? What's your guess? Rookie, rookie for the no.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:27

Yeah, I don't think it was a rookie. I think it was the second year.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:29

Because he was on the Broncos first and then got trade and then went to the Saints.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:34

Yeah, I would be able to tell you. He had what? 32. What's your guess? 30, 38?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:40

Very close. 76 overall above all players.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:44

I thought you were saying 100, 100 some catches. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:47

No, he had 25 catches. So you're at 103 and Sarab is at 151.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:53

All right. Um fuck, man. What's this guy's name? Like DJ?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:58

DK?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:59

DK Metcalf. Thank you. That's that's the unlock I needed.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:02

That's a good one. If you have a guess, how many do you think he's gonna have?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:06

I'm gonna say he's got what, like, if Jalen was in the 60s, 70s, he's gotta be in like the 80s.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:13

UK Metcalf, number one receiver for Aaron Rodgers. Surprisingly, not a big volume receiver for him. He was 30th among all wide receivers at 59 catches. Damn, I didn't realize. Yeah, he for some reason his whole career, he's never been a big volume guy. He just uh does a lot with his few catches. So that brings Srab down to 92 and Brandon's at 103. You go with Jahan Dotson. All right, Jahan Dotson. He was 142nd among wide receivers with 18 catches. So you're down to 85. Srab's at 92. We're playing the slow game. I like it. Yeah. We're playing cautious.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:49

Okay. Like, why am I drawing blanks?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

It's like interesting that we're this many guesses in. You guys are separated by seven seven points.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:56

Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. It's very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

Um I'll go uh Tyreek Hill. Okay, Tyreek Hill. I don't know when he got injured halfway through season. Yeah. Uh we'll see where he ends up next. So he was unranked, but he only played four games, and he had 21 catches uh in those games.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:18

All right.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:19

Uh so that brings Saron up to 71, and Brandon is at 85. Back to Brandon. 71. Don't get too dangerous. Or get just dangerous enough. No. If you nail someone with 75 catches, that'd be a worst case scenario. That would be best. Because you'd be at negative four. But then I'd have a whole bunch of guesses. Huh? No, no, no. Once you're below negative, you're done. Oh. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. Oh. Damn, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:44

Sorry. I'm sitting here trying to get Sarav under under that first so he can keep digging a hole. Oh shit. Okay. Sorry about that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:52

Once you get below, once once you you make a guess that takes you below zero, you're done. Okay.

unknown 1:05:57

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:58

All right. And I I have how many?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:01

71. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:02

It's funny because I actually tested this uh to make sure that all the algorithm worked with a player, and it was and it it would be it would be a perfect answer for you right now. There's a perfect answer. Let me see if I can dig this one up. All right. Perfect answer.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:16

Who would have had 71 catches? That seems high for someone like Marv.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:22

He was also injured.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:23

He was also injured. But he got a he got a good bit of volume.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:28

From my perspective, he did not get a good amount of volume. I don't know if that's true or not, just by vibes of having him on my team.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:35

Or it could go with like a Rashid Shahid. Let's go Drake London. Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:41

That's a swing. I would think he'd be top 10. Michael Penix liked feeding his man. So Drake London, 22nd among all wide receivers.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:57

What's your guess? What do you have? Like I I mean, who did we have? Someone was in the top 20 with like 85 catches, right? No. Hold on.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:05

No, Sorab. Okay, sorry. You're at you're at 85. Sorab's at 80 at 71. Sorry. Okay. Sorry. So Drake London was 22nd. He had 68 catches. That's good. So you're at 17 right now. I'll give it to him. Yeah, all right. 17. And Srab's at 92.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:22

I should have saved my Jahan Dott.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:24

Yeah. I would have I would have sworn that Drake had more, but I guess he was injured for like eight games or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:31

I'm gonna go. Uh I'm gonna say this and then I'm gonna go pee real quick. And you guys just talk because I'm not gonna edit this out later. I'm going Lad McConkie.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:44

Okay. Lad McConkieCon. I will say, Sarav has gone below zero. So by quite a bit. He he was at uh he was at 71. Does this make sense? Sorry, yeah, Sarav was at 71. All right. Sorav's at 71. Lad McConkie was 12th amongst all wide receivers with 88 catches. I'm just surprised that he was that high. So that brings Sarav's final total to negative 17. So he's 17 under and um 17. You are at positive 17.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:17

Okay, so I got I got 34 catches to play with 34 and below.

unknown 1:08:21

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:22

34 and below is what I need. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:24

So Sarov has. How many was Ladd? Lad was at 88, which brought you below zero. So you are at negative 17 as your final. Gotcha. It's actually. So Brandon's at positive 17.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:35

I'm gonna go Kaysan Booty. Ooh, bad move. What's your guess? How many do you think he had? I'm gonna guess he had I'm gonna hope he had like 37.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:44

I think he had 45.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:45

He probably had less than that, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:47

So you were at 30, you were at 17. You needed less than 34 to win. Yeah. Kishon Booty had 33 catches.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:00

Let's go! Let's go!

SPEAKER_01 1:09:01

That's incredible. So you finished with minus 16 and surrounded minus 17. Wow. So with that, takes the win on this week's episode of Trivia.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:14

Whew! I can't believe it was that close.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:20

What was Luther Burton? Uh Luther Burton. Because he came out at the end of the year. Yeah, but I know he's super quiet to the game. He had 47. So that would have uh taken you too far. That would have been really terrible. Hayshawn Boutet was the perfect pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:36

It's really funny that my whole competition was what wide receivers' names do I remember? Yeah. Yeah. I was so close being like Julio Jones. I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:47

Yeah, I wanted to, whenever Brandon said a uh name, I would be like, Sarap, what team does he play for? Well, that's the thing. It's like you can get bonus points by knowing what team from I have a weird amount of recall, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:00

So you could tell me a player and I'd be like, oh yeah, that guy. But like if you're asking me just pull from blank, like nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:06

I got nothing.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:07

I'm like, who's on your team? Try to remember those people.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:10

Yeah. All right. Well, uh, that brings our total. So Sarab is still in the lead with seven overall wins, and Brandon is up to four now. So three game uh uh three-game hole, but chip, chip, chip, chip, chip.

unknown 1:10:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:26

Last segment, question of the week. What song do you hate when it comes on the radio that it just makes you angry that this song is on? I I actually have two. So interesting. I mean, I could probably come up with many of them. But uh, but it was the uh but the but the gamut to this question was that I was at the gym and I and I'm usually I have headphones on listening to my podcast, but on the gym playlist I heard this song through it. I was like, God, I hate this song. And the one that came on is uh The Reason by Huba Stank. Fuck you, that's always incredible.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:02

That song's incredible. That's always incredible. Perfect person.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:08

Oh, it's fantastic. I hate that song. Brendan's like, I am a perfect person. I can't relate. What is this bullshit? You got no heart, man. You really like oh god, it's been played so many times. It's just like I've like rewatched that music video like in the last couple months.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:27

Man, that is a I hate that song.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:30

I think it it's got a lot of radio clay around here recently.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:33

Yeah, I don't know where it's coming from. I think it came out with like a remix or something recently. Someone did a remix of it. Uh but that's weird. Yeah. It is weird. Okay. That's random. Well, that's one of mine's mine. All right. Who's who has one? You're not gonna just do your second one? I mean, I can do both. Yeah. I mean, the other one for me is uh like a bird.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:50

I'm on a way. I don't know. I'm like a bird by Nella Furtado. Yeah, that song just I don't mind that song. Uh it just bugs me. Yeah, but yeah, I I can see being annoyed by it though.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:01

I was gonna say, I feel like I struggled with this question because I listened to so much music, and a thing that feels like a more pointed problem with music to me is like when I'm just sick of a song, but it's not like but I used to but I used to listen to it a lot, and I just can't suddenly just can't listen to it again. And maybe in a couple months, in a couple years, I'll be like, oh fuck yeah, this song. So like those are all are coming to mind. But when I But there's not one that every time that you hear it, you're like skip. I'd I'd really look for it, right? Because I also don't listen to the radio. Uh so the only time I'm exposed to music I don't like is when I'm at public places and venues that are like, you know, playing stuff and I'm like, fuck, I don't want to listen. So it's it's it's been it was hard to recall, but I I I near I dragged it down, figured it out. At least one of them. Uh and it's that it's that song Dance Monkey. I fucking hate that song.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:51

That was one of those where I'm like where he loved it and listened to it a bunch, and it's yeah, it can even figure it out.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:56

No, it's like I don't that's the thing, is like I Dance Monkey, Dance Monkey, Dance Monkey. Uh oh. Oh, okay. Yeah. It was Tovlow, is that what it is? No, no, it's like a random yeah. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:08

Yeah, tones and eye.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:09

Yeah, tones and eye. I've I've so I've I've very effectively hated the song, and that I really have made sure I've never had to listen to it. Like, like I couldn't recall, but like I hate that song. I hate the the way they sing, the music, like and it and also is very hateable in that like I've never heard of the artist, never heard another song from them ever again or ever since. And I was just like, yeah, fuck this song. Um, so that's fine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:33

I think there's there's a couple of them. Um a lot of them I don't even know the the name of the words or the names of the the songs because a lot of it is is like country, which I just generally don't get down with. The one that's probably the most controversial in our household, and it's a seasonal song, but it is I don't think it's it's not the it's Paul McCartney's uh Christmas song. Simply having a wonderful Christmas time plays all the time, and I hate that song. I can't stand that song anytime it comes on, and I feel like you know, i especially during Christmas time, there's there's only so many Christmas songs that play. And a big part of why I'm so against having Christmas music before Thanksgiving is because the more we play it, the more that song comes on. And I I just I can't do it for that long of a time. That song really, really bothers me. It is one where it's an instant change the channel. It sucks because literally everybody else in my house like loves that song as like a Christmas song, but I feel like a Grinch turn it off this last week in particular.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:46

It's such a vibe.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:47

Just like I I just kind of I just kind of took it and dealt with it. But it like a great songing, man. I I don't like that song.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:55

I'm with you in that, like I think even when I first heard that song, I hated it as like a kid. And then over time, I think I became like neutral, but I still don't like it. Um and I would skip it if I was by myself in a car.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:09

Like, yeah, I'm afraid that I'm like if I keep if I keep listening to it, I I'm probably gonna have like some kind of immersion therapy where I'm gonna just reach that point where I just accept it. And it's like, no, I don't hate it anymore. It's just a song and it's on. But it really is chill in the Yeah, but it's such a weird sound.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:24

It's a very like, especially if you're listening to a bunch of Christmas music, when it switches to that song, it does feel like you're entering something different. I don't know how to explain it. Like, I'm just like, what is this?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:35

It's like a it's like a trippy Beatles version of Christmas song, but it's like it's but also like it was made a long time ago.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:41

Yeah, yeah, I agree. You hate that song more than Dominic the Donkey.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:46

Um, it's close, but yes. That song is. No, I hate Dominic. I hate I hate Dominic the Donkey too.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:51

I'll listen to it one time in the Christmas season. After that, I don't want to hear that song again. Like that song is brutal.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:58

But I feel like it's you know, that's like comparing, like, I don't know, a song to a sketch. Like, I just don't feel like I'm exposed to Dominic the Donkey as much.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:07

Oh man, I hear that. I mean, it comes on. Oh, as we're I don't know, as we were talking about Christmas music, I heard if you have a family uh that goes, you know, that's in the car and listening to Christmas music. I heard this where they play the game where like you get into the car and then everyone picks a Christmas song and then you turn on the Christmas channel that plays songs in which everybody whoever gets their song first wins a prize or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:31

Because again, there's there's only so many Christmas songs that play, so you hear a lot of them at the same time. And especially that one seems to be one that is very popular because it plays a shit ton.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:39

Because it's a what's your last one? So it's interesting that like I feel like all of our songs are all ones that the other people don't hate. It's funny how just like certain certain songs get in your head that that just bother you. Um all right. I think that brings us to a wrap. What was your second one?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:57

Did you already sell us your second one? Damn. Yeah, like do I do I need a second? No, no, no, no. I've I've I for some reason I had a brain fart and I thought Brendan had not shared his second one. No, Nelly Fortana. I'm like a bird for the track.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:08

Yep. And then uh who's tank, the reason. Fuck that song. Man, you all think that brings us to the end.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:16

You boys got anything else to add for this? No. Uh no, not really. Um, spring is here. Hope everyone's enjoying it getting a little warmer.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:24

Yeah, spring is here, but it feels like Memorial Day feels like the unofficial start of summer. That's two weeks away. You know, it's like we just got into spring. Uh the weekend after No, it's next weekend.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:37

The weekend after this coming weekend, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:38

Yeah. For this, yeah. Just in my in my head, we're out of weekend, but we're not. Uh, but yeah, so it's weird because with all the cold weather and stuff, it feels like it's been kind of a delayed spring. Uh but yeah, summer's summer's coming. It's almost here. So yeah, hope everyone uh has a good week. Enjoy you uh continuing to listen to us if you have. We appreciate it. And uh yeah, we'll talk to everyone next week again. Have a good one. See ya. See ya. Bye.