A Whispered Thread

Why Mercury Retrograde In Pisces Hits So Hard

• Breana Romo and Katie Robinson • Season 1 • Episode 4

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Mercury retrograde in Pisces pulls us into a tug of war between our head and our heart, and the pressure shows up everywhere from relationships to literal leaks in the house. We share how to read the “whispers,” move into acceptance without excusing anything, and use simple tools to feel safer in our bodies while the energy shifts.
• why Mercury retrograde in Pisces feels extra emotional and ending-focused
• how the house system points to where the tug of war hits
• leaks, electronics issues, and “breakdowns” as mirrors for emotional overflow
• a real gas leak story that reframes fear into guidance and boundaries
• the difference between acceptance and forgiveness in relationship healing
• prayer, surrender, and body-based practices for softening resistance
• death cleaning as completion energy and emotional clearing
• dreaming, sleep disruption, and setting firm spiritual boundaries at night
• hydration, electrolytes, journaling, and grounding foods for nervous system support
• generational patterns, accountability without shame, and breaking cycles
• grief, letting go, and a falcon synchronicity as a sign of freedom 
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Opening And Retrograde Check-In

SPEAKER_00

A whispered thread podcast where spiritual practices are the norm and conversation with the divine is just everyday life. This is episode number four. And like, wow, what is happening right now with this retrograde? What is going on? How are you all doing? How are you feeling? Brianna has some insight and some stuff she just wants to speak to today. Um, Brianna, what what do you have for us? It's been wild, right?

SPEAKER_01

Oh boy, that gives me goosebumps right away.

Why Pisces Retrograde Feels Brutal

SPEAKER_01

Well, first of all, this one is absolutely the roughest one, mainly because it's in Pisces. So Mercury is ruled by um Gemini Virgo, and so opposition of Virgo is Pisces. So it is that like strong emotions, it's endings, it is so not only do you have Mercury with your mind, and you have all of this that's like kind of ruminating in there, and you have all of these thoughts, these feelings, like you don't know where to put them. You have a lot of endings depending on like what house it's in for you. And then you have Pisces, which is that emotional feeler, right? So it's like there's not really that cohesiveness with your heart and your mind, it's all over the place, and so you're like, oh my god, my whole life is falling apart. Well, yeah, it is, it's supposed to, you know, and then we have Mars in the mix, and Mars is that energy of like, you know, uh passion, drive, but it's also known as like the God of war. So you're basically at war with yourself on trying to end what needs to end. And like, depending on what house it's in for you, like for me, it was in my fourth house, right? Still in my fourth house, it's not over until the 20th. But then we're still going to have to have it catch up. You know what I mean? So now we have all of this stuff in Aries. We have, well, almost the sun will be in Aries soon, but basically a lot of things that are in Aries, then we have a couple placements that are in Pisces. So it's like you want this new beginning to start, but then this retrograde hasn't wanted you to start it yet because you still have something to let go of. And so for me, if you're Sag rising, obviously this is about our fourth house of home, right? Your comforts, nurturing yourself, mother wounds. There's also like, you know, how are you as a mother if you're a mom? And um, even like generational things. So there's a lot that's going on for us, but I think a lot of people, especially if you you're a sag rising, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. It was never about how can you fix your home? How can you nurture yourself? How can you do this? No, it is are you in your body your home? Are you safe in your body? How can you work through that? Because Pisces is that emotion, right? How can you come into yourself, do that deep inward dive? Because Pisces is very deep. They want to get rid of shit that doesn't belong there anymore. They want to tear it out, even though they can be very delusional. It's like, yeah, you can be, but what is real right in front of you? Take off those pink colored glasses and say, you know what, this is what I'm going through. So, like you being a Virgo, this has been in your seventh house, right? Okay. So it's like, what is the distortion that has happened around you with relationships? What kind of things with relationships have come up with you, whether it's the relationship with yourself, whether it's the relationships with others around you, how you're viewing work right now. There's probably a part of you that wants to expand, right, with relationships around you, or even like, you know, scheduling or putting something in, but it's like, no, I can't do this right now, right? It's like, yes, you can. You can have that partnership because there's a lot that it's just you have to get your mind and your heart in a good place. And essentially that's what this retrograde has been trying to do. But it's really hard for people to kind of drop into their body to open up their heart space, to say, okay, these thoughts are yeah, going on, but they're popping up for you to say, Hey, how can we look at it in a different way? versus allowing this whole Mercury retrograde to take me over. It's like when it's like when you get diagnosed with something, right? Are you going to allow this to take over you and claim like this is the diagnosis that I have? Or do you say, no, this is something that is going on, but I'm not letting it control me? Yeah, that makes sense. There was a lot of stuff that went down too. I bet a lot of people had a lot of water stuff going on, mainly because it's water, me included. Um, so there's just like a lot. There's probably like leaks for people around their house. There was probably like overflow because it is so emotional, right? So even if it's not in your fourth house, the general energy is okay, if we're storing too much emotions because we're too in our mind or too in our heart, we haven't had that, you know, connection. You're gonna notice, like, okay, well, the toilet's broken or a sprinkler, or you know, there's a leaky faucet, or there's some kind of something broken around you, the lights, even because Mercury rules like electronics, so a lot of electronical issues, like your car, maybe it was overheating. There's like so much

Finding Heart-Mind Middle Ground

SPEAKER_01

because Virgo doesn't really care for Pisces, Mercury doesn't care for Pisces.

SPEAKER_00

That's interesting. So just to kind of reflect what you're saying, it feels like all of us are in a tug of war, right? Like that's what you're saying. All of us are in this tug of war, and then depending on where it's hitting you, like what house it's hitting you. So for me, because like you said, I'm I'm a Virgo rising, and so it's hitting that seventh house, and I'm feeling in my relationships. And it's interesting, there is a tug of war between my mind and my heart right now of like, I feel this, but I see this, and like I I remember this, but you know, it's like there's this stuff in my brain about what happened and all this logical stuff, but then there's my heart that's over here, like conflicting with that. And so other people are having the same tug of war, but depending on where it's hitting them in their house, they're having maybe a different arena of their life is having that tug of war.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yeah. Okay, yeah, that's I mean the overall feeling is emotion, right? The overall collective energy is okay, our mind having our mind and our heart in a cohesive spot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And how do you get there?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It just depends on what house it's going through for you, of where you need to have that, you know, middle ground. So emotions are very big, the leaks are gonna be very big, you know, all of that stuff will definitely pop up.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but yeah, depending on be in your emotional body or in physical world, is what you're saying, right? You might have it like actually in your house, or you might have it in your body, whereas like where am I leaking these emotions? Where am I overflowing? Where am I not letting emotions move in my body and they're maybe stuck or stagnant? So that makes sense all about the water.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And for me, if you have something going on in your home just because of feng shui and like energy, this is like a big belief that I have. If you're storing emotions, your home or whatever is around you is going to tell you by having a leak. Yeah. Because you're storing all of it, right? So now your energy is expanding, and then boom, here's this, this, and this. And you're like, oh my God, why is this happening? Like, even in Feng Shui, I don't care how many cures you put up, like if you're not allowing those emotions to come out, if you're not and you're just storing them, like the easiest way you can think of it is like your kettle that has been screaming that needs to be taken off. And so, but you don't have a physical kettle, so your house is going to be like, okay, here it is. Or when you go to your job, this, okay, here it is. You know what I mean? So it's like everyone's gonna be seeing signs, or I'm sure this whole time they've been seeing signs, and we do have it, you know, for another two weeks where yeah. So it'll be so what oh go ahead. It'll be less it'll be less impactful, right? Because it's a faster moving planet for retrograde. So it's like, yeah, you know, it ends on the 21st and then it'll slowly start picking up. But for me, it's like there's pre-shadow, there's retrograde, and then there's post. And a lot of people may have noticed this where some people are they don't get hit during the retrograde, they get hit pre-retrograde. And then, so like for me, right? My husband gets hit post-retrograde. I get hit pre-retrograde during retrograde. It's like, okay, but this one I knew, right? I was like, this isn't Pisces, we're screwed. Like, I don't care what we do, like we're gonna prepare. And it's like, okay, you know, I feel like that's what astrology essentially is. It's like you know the challenges that are gonna come up with you. So, how can you prepare yourself, you know, to move forward without psyching yourself out? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, or creating anything with your fears and worries. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense, right? Like that your house, because this that's what this podcast is about, is a whispered thread, right? Like these these whispers that move through our life. And you're really saying that if your house is doing anything with water right now, what is it whispering to you? What is it highlighting that you might need to know?

Leaks, Breakdowns, And Spiritual Clues

SPEAKER_00

What is it showing you about yourself, right? Because I mean, and people might find this concept kind of crazy, but I definitely don't. Whenever my house is doing anything, I know it's a deep reflection of myself. So I already have this like connection. But if you're new to to learning about this, it can feel like like, what does my house have to do with my body? This doesn't make sense. Like we're reading into this, or right? Like, I'm sure like some thoughts can come up. But like you're saying, it's it's it's this is your house, meaning your body. And then your house that you're living in is going to be showing you there's like deep connection to these two houses that you're living in, right? Your body and your physical structure. Um I love that. And then what is it whispering to you? What is it showing you through the things that might need repaired right now, or might be, like you said, leaking or exploding, or whatever might be happening? How can you look at that and reflect on it and listen?

A Gas Leak And The Whispers

SPEAKER_01

Can I share something that came up for me?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So everybody knows. Well, if you didn't, now you do. I don't watch anything like news related, I don't keep up with any of it, I don't do any of that. My husband, bless his soul, like he will, right? And I was getting very frustrated with like, you know, he's watching it next to me, even though I'm not paying attention. It will subconsciously get into my brain, right? Or I'm not, even though you know how that happens. And I started like getting frustrated inside, but I wasn't saying anything because it's like, no, it's okay, it's okay, right? Well, I didn't say anything, and we had a gas lake. There were like we had to have it was a whole freaking thing, and it was like, okay, so leading up to it, there were little cues, whispers, I should say, that were kind of saying, Hey, this is what's going on, right? So for that week we were cooking. Anytime he would go over to the stove, something would drop. So, like we have like little lights under our cupboards, like our cabinets, and it fell. And it was like, oh my gosh. And I even like joked with him where I was like, babe, spirit doesn't want you in there, you know, and he's like, Oh, knock it off. He's like, I'm fine. And then the next day something happened again, right? And then my son was like, Dad, no, I really think someone's like, hey, we need to back up in here, and I didn't put it together, but I did think it was weird, but then I was like, Oh, we just have Spirit in here, like cooking with us, you know what I mean, like joining in. And then the next day I had left and I had come home and I had noticed that the stove was pushed out, and I was like, that's so freaking weird. Like, am I tripping right now? And I was like, no, it's really out. So I left to go pick up the kids, came back home, and I asked my son, I was like, Hey, is this like, do you notice anything about the stove? And he was like, Yeah, why does it look like it's pushed out? And I'm like, I knew it. And so I was like, Okay, we're gonna leave it alone, we're gonna wait till your dad gets home. So then we hear a big like boom, like like the cast iron like fell through or something. And I'm like, there's just no coincidence right now. Like, literally, we're not supposed to be in the kitchen. So then I uh my husband gets home, he looks at it, he pushes his stove back, we hear the freaking boom again. So he goes and he looks and he's like, gosh, that's so weird. We did like a little spray thing, like the little bubble thing, and he's looking at it and he was like, No, he was like, There's no leaks, and there wasn't like we did the little bubble thing, there was nothing, I couldn't smell anything. He said that like he thought he did. So then I get woken up again at 3:33 hearing it, and I was like, Yeah, whatever. So then we go out, and then sure shit, I'm like, babe, I could smell it. So now we had to rudely awake up the kids to go wait outside for the guy to come out, and he's looking at it and he was like, I don't even know how long this thing has been leaking, like honestly, because it's a pretty big gash. And I'm thinking, how the hell did that happen? I asked the guy, and I'm like, literally, we were cooking on it every single day this week, except for yesterday. Why didn't it we blow up? Oh my gosh, and he was like, honestly, I don't even know. He couldn't figure out why that bang happened, why it moved out. He literally love this about men, you know, people who aren't open, bless your heart. I love you. But like he goes, I think you came home, you heard a bang, you smelled the smell, and you thought it moved out. Okay, first of all, I didn't smell anything. Second of all, I saw it move out before I heard anything. So I was like, nah, it's not adding up. And of course, my husband uh love him, but he's like, Yeah, that could be it. It's like what happened? You just woke up. Like, what do you mean? So it was like, okay, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. So then it was like, well, where is this coming from, right? I know we have retrograde, I know there was gonna be leaks, I know that we're safe. Honestly, I was like, babe, we're literally so protected, so protected, like we're leaving offerings to the ancestors tonight because they saved us. We could like blew up. And he was like, Yeah, that I can't believe you know that guy said, like, how did you guys? It's like, we don't know, because we're protected, I guess. That's what it is. That I slowly started noticing, like, okay, here were all these whispers that whole week, but I didn't pay attention. And then it was like, Okay, let's sit with myself. What is the kitchen? The kitchen is the heart of the home. What is what is sitting heavy in my heart? So I had to tell him, I was like, baby, you know, this is really bothering me. You're watching that. Can you like put a headphone in or whatever? Things started to like slow down. I felt so much better. The leak was gone, you know. It was like, okay, cool. All of these little whispers. Sometimes we don't know that it's happening until after something big has happened.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But like they're still there, and then you connect it, and it's like, no, this isn't a coincidence. Like, I don't believe in them at coincidences, anyways. Like it happens, but it's like after the fact, it was like, shit, I should have known, you know, not shaming myself, but it was like there were all the signs, and here I was utilizing the Pisces Delulu aspect of me, like, oh, spirits is cooking with you, you know. It's like, no, there was something deeper going on, and it was like it needed to be fixed, and now it's fixed. And it was like, hey, yeah, we are here, we are helping you, but how many times do you want me to bang for you to be like, hey, something's going on here, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So, like, really, you're saying like the you had an issue that was affecting you, you weren't dealing with it, you weren't speaking up, and then you had a situation that showed you, like, if you don't deal with this, you're gonna blow up. Yeah, for real. Which is what's happening in your body. Like, if I don't speak up about this, I'm gonna get overloaded and overloaded with all this information from the news that I don't want, and I end up blowing up on my husband when I could have just had a simple conversation, right? Like, yeah, yeah. Oh, I love that so much. And your house is like whispering to you to pay attention to what is happening inside of you. That's so cool, honestly. And the fact that you're safe, right? We have to acknowledge that you're safe, you're okay, nothing blew up. But it it gave you the insight you needed to face your emotions, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And it was a it was like a good talk too, right? Like it wasn't like something that either of us got upset about, or it's like, man, why was I holding that in so long? Yeah, yeah. I knew it wasn't gonna bother him to begin with, but it was like I also didn't want him to feel like, oh well, I can't watch this, or you know what I mean? Like I didn't want him to feel any kind of way. So it was really nice that, like, but again, like our brain will get in the way, those thoughts will be like, don't say anything, don't say anything, it'll turn a new fight. Especially knowing the you know, astrology, it's like let's not do that, let's like just stay peaceful, you know. But it doesn't always happen that way. Things are supposed to come up right now to deal with, yeah, real life things.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Have you had anything?

Acceptance Versus Forgiveness In Practice

SPEAKER_00

You know, you're kind of making me think about a couple different things. One of the things, just the fact that you said it was in my seventh house, um, with relationships, and there's been a specific relationship in my life where I'm I've been trying to force forgiveness, not force it, choose forgiveness, and asking for forgiveness, and just, you know, with my intentions, with my thoughts, with my heart, really trying to work on this idea of forgiveness. And within the last week, it's been getting louder. It's like, why can't I forgive? Why can't I forgive? I could feel the block coming up more and more and more, almost like a like literally like a block in my throat, where it's like, what is this? I'm not cutting through this. And why am I not? So, through reflecting, revisiting, right? Kind of what Mercury retrograde is about, let's sit in this and let's like revisit it and let's look at what's really happening. I had a moment of clarity where it's like my thoughts wanted forgiveness because that felt like that's what I should do. But once I once I actually like sat in the space, I had this moment of clarity. I was like, it's not forgiveness, it's acceptance. And that's a whole different type of energy. Yes. And I'm like, no wonder I can't get to this forgiveness. It's not about forgiveness, it's about acceptance. And and so through that moment, I was able to kind of redirect my energy inside, kind of settle into a different space, and I've had more opening since then. And it's something that I teach about too, which is interesting. I I teach about acceptance in the way of like if you can't even get to forgiveness or anything that's on the other side of acceptance if you haven't accepted it, right? Because you're still in the situation and you're wishing it to be different. And until you actually accept it, you can't get to the next step because there's nothing to get to, because you're still in it, you're still not accepting it, if that makes sense. So I was fascinating. I was like, oh, okay, something you talk about all the time, and you were missing it. You you weren't seeing that that's where you're at, you know? So through I feel like whispers from my clients, like sessions that I was doing, um, whispers in my life of I would hear, like, this is the way that it is, you can't change it. But then I would fight that, right? It's almost that delusion of like, I can change it, I can fix it. What do you mean? And then I have this fiery energy that's like, yeah, we're gonna fix it. We're gonna force this through whatever love and attention and I don't know, like right, fighting between these things. No, sit back and just accept that this is the way that it is. And I had this clear knowing that once I accept it, I will know if forgiveness is available to me or if I need to move on.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And that became very clear. But I won't know until I accept it as it is right now.

SPEAKER_01

So you're still moving through acceptance.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. For me the way that I do it is I just pray for it all the time. I don't really know how to achieve acceptance through you can decide, right? And you're with your mind, but letting your body get there is a whole different story. Letting my emotions, letting my heart settle into that. So for me, it's a it's a I pray for it. I ask for it. I intend it. Every time I feel that like um disconnect or that urgency to fix it or that feeling of like, oh my gosh, I want this to be different. I just say, no, I I'm praying for acceptance. Please help me accept this. Please help me accept this as the way that it is. And pretty soon I soften into it. I don't know if you have like a different path for acceptance, but that's how that's the only way I've been able to do it is just to intend, ask, breathe into it until it happens.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I do the same thing, but I I get a little hotheaded. So it takes me a little I don't know if that's the right word to use, but I'm I'm stubborn. So it takes me a lot longer to get into acceptance because it's like I get too stubborn to sit with it, like pray essentially, yeah, to take it away.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I I have to move into surrender before getting into acceptance, and because I'm so stubborn, it takes me a while to just get into surrender.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, I think that's what I'm doing when when I'm saying, like I feel the tension in my body, I feel the thoughts coming, and then I say, Nope, nope, like we're accepting this. It's okay, I hear you, but but no, we can't fight this anymore. Is it is what it is. Like, this is what is happening, and we have to accept this. And then I like so I think in that moment when I'm talking to myself, that's what I'm doing is surrendering. Yeah. And then and then setting my intention again for acceptance. And I've done this a lot with many different things, and pretty soon I will feel that release in my body, and I'm moving into acceptance, and then I can feel like the next step is coming in. I'm like, oh, there it is. Okay, I've done it, I've accepted it. But I've never been able to just like choose it and then it happens. No, me either. So whenever I talk about it, that is my that is my suggestion. Of course, people can do it however they want to, but when we talk about acceptance, my suggestion is to pray for it until it happens. Because what is a prayer, right? You're intending it when I sit with it in that moment and I say it and I feel it, I'm I'm surrendering into it, I'm moving into it. So it's there's a lot of action happening in that moment through my prayer. It's not just a it's not just a um without thought, like, yeah, I pray for acceptance. No, like I'm like, right? Like it's not just a thought. It's like deep in my body, and I'm like, no, we're settling into this. Please help me accept this. And I can even just as I say that to you, I can feel the warmth. I can feel the the prayer. I can feel the call to spirit, like, please help me. I'm ready.

Death Cleaning And Completion Energy

SPEAKER_01

That's a death cleaning. Sorry, that came up for me right now. Where it was like, that's why she was like, that's why I was doing it. That's why you had yours, because it was you did move into acceptance so that you can move into forgiveness, right? That's why we I'm I swear that's why I death clean, but it's like because I've I've finally surrendered, but now it's like, okay, we gotta, we're moving into acceptance so that we can move into forgiveness, but let's clean it all up before we get in there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So what Brianna's referring to is we had a conversation yesterday that she was cleaning physically, cleaning her house. She calls it death cleaning when she's cleaning all of the stuff up in her house, like can't stop cleaning. And then I, when she told me she was doing the death cleaning, I told her that I was doing it emotionally. So we were both feeling that yesterday was some sort of completion. Yeah. So yesterday would have been what March 16th? Was in the nine. Yeah, a lot of nine signs coming in, showing us the energy of completion. So something yesterday was moving through. We're like, let's cleanse internally, externally, let's move this stuff out. Yeah. And we felt the same wave of energy.

SPEAKER_01

I just remember, sorry, I know I wasn't planning on talking about this, but then as you were talking, I was like, holy shit, that's what it was. But it's like, I don't know what it is, it just helps so much. Like there was just so much energy yesterday, and I remember thinking, like, I gotta text Katie this. Like, I need to see how she's feeling. Like, this energy is insane right now. Yeah. And like earlier we were talking about it, like it's just so slow, and then today it's so fast, where it's like, okay. Which is that that, okay, yeah, we've really let it go. We've we've surrendered, we've moved into acceptance, we're moving into, you know, it's like like how I was talking about earlier. You have to be able to let go to be able to walk into this new Aries energy of this new beginning. You had to emotionally do it. I had to physically do it. I mean, as I'm as I'm doing it, you know, I don't even know I'm doing it until like someone says something to me, right? Like yesterday, writer was like, Mom, is someone dying? And I'm like, What? He was like, Every single time you do this, like you can't stop. Who's dying? And I feel so bad, but it's normally true. Like it happens. Then it's like, no, I don't think so. No, I'm fine. And then I once I realized it, I was like, Oh, should I gotta text Katie? Yeah, like, are you doing this too? Because what the heck is going on?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and I love that because we're both like getting the whispers, we're both getting the signs, we're both reading the energy, we can feel it, read it. We know like we're noticing what we're doing, and then we talk about it, and we're like, Oh yeah, yeah, you're uh like we're on the same wave. There's this is happening universally because we're both doing it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It helps. It's so it's helpful because even though we can, I feel like even though we can see the signs and we can like you know read the energy to have that external validation sometimes just um it gives it more more power, I guess. But also you see you're usually seeing a different side of it. We're like on the same wave, but different, different sides of it at the same time. So then we can see like an all-encompassing. I feel that too, right? Like now we can see more of it because, like, oh, you're picking up on that, I'm picking up on this. This is how it intertwines, and now we have like a bigger picture of what is happening.

SPEAKER_01

Honestly, it makes me feel less alone. And I feel like that's why I also, you know, love doing these podcasts because we get to share it with everybody else who's like feeling it and doesn't know it yet, and you can feel less alone. Like, I mean, I have you, you know, so it's like, Katie, this is what I'm feeling, and like nine out of ten times we're feeling it already, but you're right, it's always different, or like you're a week ahead of me, or you know, I'm a week ahead of you. It goes like back and forth, and it's always like it's like, oh my gosh, so for two weeks, this is what's been going on, and we finally figured it out.

SPEAKER_00

I love it so much too. It's so helpful. That's what I meant by external validation. It's not that we're seeking it outside of ourselves, like you said, now we just feel less alone or we feel understood, or we get more of the picture, and it just comes together like beautiful puzzle pieces.

SPEAKER_01

I love it so much. I do too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

Dreams, Downloads, And Sleep Deprivation

SPEAKER_01

How is sleeping for you?

SPEAKER_00

Horrible. Lots of dreams. Um, some dreams that are just my emotions working themselves out, and then some dreams that are giving me messages and more understanding of like what's happening. Um, because that's definitely something that I do is I get messages. I mean, we both do, we get, you know, messages in our dreams. And then sometimes I can tell it's like my emotions are working themselves out. And this was kind of erratic and all over the place, and it makes sense for what I'm feeling, but it's not really like a universal message for you know, or a message for somebody else. It's it's my own shit moving through.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, and that makes sense. That makes sense too, is where your placements are right now as well, though. Like they're more directed towards you and like how you're feeling.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, sleep overall, man. My goodness. It's like I've have been dreaming for like the last six weeks, I feel like every single night. That it's like, I mean, I've shared with you that the other night I literally had to tell myself, like, no dreams, none, I don't want any of it. Just let me sleep. And I did. I crashed and it was like, oh, darkness. I just remember waking up like, oh, that was good.

SPEAKER_00

Is that a tool you suggest for others? Is to to command, like, uh, please don't let me dream. Do you how would you say it? Do you command it?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I literally just yell, like, not yell, but I like verbalize it very strictly where it's like, I am not dreaming tonight. I've had enough. I don't want to see this right now. Thank you for the messages. Thank you for letting me know half the shit I don't even want to know, but thanks for giving it to me, anyways. But I need a good night's sleep. I need to recalibrate. If I'm supposed to be sharing this, I'm not gonna be able to when you're hitting me every single day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I love how you said it though, strictly. That's what I meant by commanding. Because at first I started to say, like, please don't let me. It's not a please, it's not a pleading with them, right? Yeah, with spirit, with yourself, with your soul. It's a command, or like you said, strictly saying, This is my boundary. I'm not dreaming tonight. Thank you. Because I know some people who have tried that, including myself, and then I still dream, but I think it's been more of this place of please don't let it happen, yeah, versus like, no, this is I I'm serious. No, thank you. I like that.

SPEAKER_01

I also feel like they know though, right? I feel like it's like a a bound, like okay, here's this boundary. Have you reached it yet? So it's like, yeah, well, here's all this information. And you know, these last six weeks, I'm like, well, what the hell am I supposed to do with this?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That it's like, okay, I'll keep getting them, I'll keep getting them, you know. At the end of it, it's like I've always felt safe. Like I know that I'm safe, I know that my family's safe, I know that the people I love are safe, but it's like, why does this keep happening? Why does this keep happening? And then finally, it's like, you know, you even though you're sleeping, quote unquote, when you're dreaming and getting downloads, you're not actually getting a restful sleep.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So you wake up in the morning and you're drained, like, yeah. Then you gotta do your electrolytes, and then you gotta do this, and you gotta do this, and then you gotta try to move it out, and then you're trying to also decipher everything that you end up getting exhausted. So why I didn't do it sooner, I have no idea, but it was like, okay, no, I've had enough.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So what would you say? You kind of skipped over that, so I'd like to

Hydration And Grounding Food Fixes

SPEAKER_00

kind of reverse. What would you say for people that aren't sleeping right now? You said electrolytes, or like what are some of your tools to nourish yourself or to, you know, kind of refill your tank when you're not getting the sleep that you want.

SPEAKER_01

So electrolytes are big. I go natural, so I do um Celtic salt, even though I know that Celtic salt has came out with this thing where there's like lead in it. At this point, if I'm gonna dive lead, I'm gonna dive lead, you know. So I still will put a pinch in uh my water to get those electrolytes or um Kirkland's. I I did I do have that. That one's a lot better for you than Celtic salt, but Kirkland sea salt, yeah. Okay, yeah, that one has like way lower lead in it. I think it was like 0.002 or something like that, where I was shocked that Celtic lead was like pretty high up there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I saw that with one of the brands actually that I have a bag of is no the Redmond. No, I didn't know that. That one's on there.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, no, this that one was even higher than Celtic Salt. Wow. I was shocked. I didn't know that. Yeah, but you can also like pre-make it where you can make it like a dropper. So you put like you know, a quarter cup of uh sorry, a third a cup of salt in a mason jar, fill it up, and then you just pour a little bit of that in your already used water, but honestly, it's so much easier for me just to scoop it in.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, beautiful. So electrolytes and then uh what are some other tools you use to journaling?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I'll journal, uh, but mainly hydration to keep up just your body in general, yeah. Um there every now and then if it gets too crazy, I will use uh an herb called Starnece and I'll put it under my pillow. Okay, that's another good one. Um, but mainly it's hydration to just keep me feeling better, healthy foods, right? That's usually when I'm not a big red meat eater, but I'll have to eat red meat. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a lot of stir fries, there's a lot of you know, veggies, meat. We usually do like rice bowls, and then it's like okay. It keeps me moving.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I love that. That's good advice because there's a lot. I feel like I've talked to other people who are like, oh my gosh, including people in my house, like, I'm dreaming. Were you dreaming last night? I'm like, yeah. So that's great information to like, you know, ask command for it to slow down, get your hydration in, some sea salt, take care of yourself, some grounding foods. If you're not a meat eater, you can do other grounding foods would be like anything underground, like sweet potatoes or potatoes, um, root vegetables, hikema. Yeah, hikema works really good. Yeah, anything of the you know, grown grown under the ground would be really grounding for people too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. I know I've had a couple of clients reach out to me too saying, like, I've just been non-stop dreaming. And I'm like, welcome to the club.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and then like you said, journaling helps because any emotions that it stirs up from dreaming or or just wanting to write down maybe some of the signs or symbols, shapes, anything that comes in in your dreams, it can help process it to write it down, even if you don't understand it, or if it was just, like I said, moving the emotion, that's very helpful too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

Acceptance Without Agreement Or Approval

SPEAKER_00

And I did, I do feel like I want to just circle back really quickly to the acceptance because one of the things I didn't add in, but I think is really important, is acceptance doesn't mean that we like it or we agree with it or we want it to be happening. To accept something doesn't mean we have to be in agreement with it like that. We just have to accept that it is so. And for some reason, I just felt like I wanted to pop that in there because I can feel some people might think of, well, I don't want to accept it because then that means I I agree or I like it or I'm okay with it or I want more of it, and that's not the case. You know, if it to accept something does not does not equal we agree and we like it and we're okay with it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I had to do that. I shared it with you, but I had to do that where it's like I get to accept that this person is who they are and I can love them where they are. Yeah. And that's okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because then you just reaffirm your boundary for yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And you're moving into the space of acceptance. You can get to the next piece of this relationship, the next piece of the healing, whatever comes after acceptance, but you know, fighting it and sitting in it and never surrendering or accepting brings a whole host of other issues and problems. Yeah. I just felt called to circle back to that to make sure we speak to that because we're definitely not telling people, oh, you you have to like it. Yeah. It's like, no, that's not what it's not what it is at all. And that can help too with some of like, you know, the dreams that you're you might be filtering through or some of the issues you're dealing with in your house and your body right now. Um, to accept this does not mean we like it, but it does mean we can work with it once we accept it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And same with forgiveness, right? I feel like I need to say this too, is like when we say, like, you know, we're moving into forgiveness, that doesn't mean that you have to physically forgive somebody. It just means I'm forgiving the situation because I don't want to carry this anymore.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. And the same thing, we're not letting somebody off the hook, we're not giving them permission to do it again, we're not forgiving them so that we can be abused or whatever might be happening in that need for forgiveness. It's for ourselves. I love how you said it. It's more about forgiving the situation. Um, and even sometimes forgiving ourselves for putting up with some of the stuff we put up with, or right? That's been a lot of in my situation, is like I've had, I'm like, I forgive myself for not having boundaries sooner. I forgive myself for not speaking up, but it's taken a while. And so it's interesting, even you know, like I said, I was still fighting with I there must be more to forgive. Please let me forgive. Please let me do this. Like, no, I've done all of that, but what I haven't done is accepted still that this is just what it is. Yeah, it's what it is. I don't like it, but but once I accept it, I can finally get to the next piece that I, you know, I needed to get to. So thank you, Mercury Retrograde, because I was spinning and didn't know it. And then it made me dive in a little bit deeper to see something I didn't see before. And that that is the beauty of Mercury retrograde.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I think I told you this, but it was like, and I say it a lot for retrogrades in general. It's like it's about reflecting, revisiting, revising. And then it was like the relay switch on our AC. And then it was uh what was that other one that was for the thing I told you? It was another re that was happening, and it's like, okay, retrograde, I get out all the freaking rees. We're adding more to it. It's like, okay, here we go. Because it was the one that was outside. I forgot that we had also a leak on our outside one, and that's what that other re one was that they had to fix. And it was like all the rees.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it can feel almost like punishment. Like, are you serious? You want me to like revisit this again? You want me to look at this again? I thought I've looked at this, but the truth is, it wouldn't come up if there wasn't more to look at. It's not just gonna come up for no reason.

SPEAKER_01

No, you

Generational Patterns And Cycle Breaking

SPEAKER_01

know, even for me, like we had another, we had the leak in the sprinklers last weekend. Well, just last Saturday. And even that brought up stuff for me generationally, that it was like, I mean, you're we're talking about forgiveness, and this kept popping up, and I'm like, I don't want to talk about it. But then it's like, no, talk about it. And it's like, as you keep talking about forgiveness, everything in me is like, no, talk about it. And I'm like, but it's like there were things that came up generationally for me with my mom's side, right? And fourth house is is your mother controlled by cancer. And uh forgiveness for me was very, very hard with you know, my aunts. It was like very hard for me, for one in particular. And then it was like, you know, I I thought I had moved into acceptance. I've thought I had forgiven the situation, but it was like I kept noticing myself having to, for years I'm talking, that I would have to like write it out and burn it and then speak it. And then I tried doing it at different times because if I did it at night, then I would go to bed and then it would still be festering for me. And it's like, what the heck? Like I've moved through all of this, like I've set better boundaries. That it was like until the moment that I was like, I'm just gonna call her or have a talk with her and say, Hey, like, I forgive the situation, you know. I know I don't have to call her, I know I don't have to talk to her, but I had to do it. And then it was like, okay, then this weekend it was like, why is this coming up again? Like, I haven't felt this in a couple of years, like I felt really good about it. And then it's like, oh my gosh, because it's a wound on your mother's side with those people, and it's popping up because what are you doing right now? And I had noticed a pattern where I started taking it out on Brindley. And it was like, no, no, no, no, cut that out, cut that out. Like, we can't do that. That it took me a moment that sometimes even though we have forgiven the situation, even though we have let it go, it you may notice like, okay, here it comes up. And it's not because you haven't forgiven the situation, it's not because you haven't moved into a a place of acceptance or or healed that you have, but it's generational. So then you start noticing these little things that you're doing. So how can you take action to get back into that place of? Okay, no, I'm good. I need to relive a pattern. Yeah, I gotta break this pattern. I can't keep reliving it. And so I guess people must be going through this as well, where it's like, okay, no, I did do this. This keeps popping up. How can you look at your actions with the people around you or your family or your children, especially if it's in like your fourth or fifth house, that you can be like, okay, no, I have to cut this out.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, recognize where you get really real with yourself, where am I perpetuating this cycle, even in a subtle way that I didn't know I was doing? And then clearing that pattern. It makes sense because when it's generational, right, it runs deep. And so it makes sense that as you're raising a child, things might pop up that happened to you and you're subtly doing it, or maybe at outright doing it, and you didn't even know it. Yeah. And then you awaken to it because of the whispers, because of the synchronicities, because of that call to revisit it. Yeah, because nothing comes up, right? Because that's what you're saying. It's like this thing that I thought I was done with came up for a reason.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Instead of pushing it away, why just getting curious, getting really curious of like, why is this coming up? And then observing your life. I love that. It's beautiful. And taking accountability without shame. That's like, whoa, I'm starting to do this thing that I didn't like. And then how can I, how can I stop that right now? And be that change that that that I want to see. I love it. Because I don't want her to have to go through it. Yeah. Yeah. And you're breaking a cycle. That's huge. Like, I feel like you need to like, yay, come up for Brianna.

SPEAKER_01

What is it that people do now? Like, writer goes like this.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they like them.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, oh come on, I want an applaud. Yeah, I want to hear the claps.

SPEAKER_00

Don't you go silent. Yeah. I'm like, like, hooray, like you're breaking the cycles. Good for you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That one was a tough one, but I guess people must be going through it for me to have to share it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And you know, it makes me think of two.

Letting Go Of A Beloved Pet

SPEAKER_00

So for me, again, like just kind of switching gears to the relationships and the acceptance and moving through that. So I recently, you know, had to put my cat down. And it was a difficult decision because here is this. I mean, we have relationships with our animals, right? Like there's an interaction every day with them. It was very difficult. So even just thinking about everything we're talking about today, like I had to move into acceptance, even though I didn't like it, that it was time to release her. It was time to put her down. And I did not want to do that. I did not want to do that at all. Even though, like, all the signs were there, like I felt it. I even asked you, like, hey, do you think that this is right? It I could feel it, but I was fighting it. You didn't even ask me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I remember you didn't. Yeah, you just were like, Hey, do you have time? Because I I have a question that's weighing heavy on me. And I was like, I already heard yes. And you were like, Yeah, I knew it.

SPEAKER_00

Yes or no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes we do that where it's a neutral, like, yes or no. And you're like, yes. I'm like, son of a bitch, I don't want to do this. But it really, now that we've talked about the astrology for me right now, it really plays into that tug of war in the mind and the heart. It's like I'm seeing all the signs. I know this is the direction I need to go, and I don't want to do it. Don't make me do it. Don't make me accept this. Don't make me say yes. I'm gonna fight it. But on the other side of that was her freedom, right? Which is my freedom. It's very symbolic, I feel like, of everything I'm experiencing right now. When I can just accept that this is what's happening, let the thing die that needs to die within myself, then I can move into a freedom that I don't even expect, right? And that's kind of what happens with our animals. They're suffering, they're at the end of their life. We don't want to let them go, but when we do accept it and move forward, they are free. They're totally free. And I actually have a story I want to share with that because I think it's I was hoping you would. Yeah, because I feel like it's really beautiful. So my cat Cassie came to me uh one year. We were having a party outside for my birthday, and she showed up and I was like, okay. And like she was a she was instantly a part of the party, like rubbing on everybody with her tail, loving on everybody. She was like just a hundred percent a part of the party, and then she never left. So I always made the joke, like she was my gift from the universe. Like, here's my kitty. And I knew through so many different signs and synchronicities and and whispers that she like her and I have had a past life together, and I knew it was connected to a Viking life. So I always called her my Viking kitty, and she was badass like that. Like if the dogs barked at her, she held her own. She wasn't a cat that ran off scared. She was like, Come at me, do it, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Like, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

I'm ready for you. Yeah. So she was always just my strong Viking kitty who loved to party. If we had people over, whether it was a bunko game or a birthday party, she was right in the mix. She loved it. Anyway, so after I had put her down, I chose to bring her body home. And this part is kind of intense or gross or whatever, but I do have to share it. So after an animal passes, there's a point when um like a smell comes out, or they might um they might defecate, right? Or they might pee, right? There might be like a release of bodily fluid. So we're driving home and she's like on the floorboard, and all of a sudden I smell that smell, but my body, like the whisper that came with it, is oh my gosh, she just released from her body. Because, you know, we don't know when the soul leaves. Is it the moment that they pass away? Is a little bit later. The soul gets to choose, right, when it's gonna exactly leave. I feel like sometimes it's right away, sometimes it takes a minute. And I knew in that moment she just released from her body, and a huge gray and white falcon flew in front of my car. And I just started crying. I was like, oh my gosh, like there she is. Like I could feel the freedom, it's gonna make me cry. I could feel the freedom in that moment of her flying away, and it was just so beautiful. It was just like the synchronicity, like I said, of that smell, that knowing, and then the bird all at once. And then my mind immediately went to, oh my gosh, falcons, Vikings had a close relationship with falcons, and ravens, yes, and I never see falcons around here. Like I'm in an area where there's a ton of hawks, I see ravens, I see, you know, all sorts of birds. Um, the blue herons, the I mean, I could go on and on, right? We see birds, but I rarely, if ever, see gray and white falcon. And so, and it flew in front of my car where I was like, I wasn't sure if I was gonna hit it. That's how close it was, you know. So I just it was so beautiful because she showed me in that moment that she was free and she was flying away, and that helped so much, you know. I mean, there's still emotions because I miss her, but it helps so much to see that that whisper.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and Pisces, Pisces's past lives, it's yeah, and like Akashic Records. Um, and so to have that happen is so beautiful.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I know it's like a sad situation. None of us want to lose our pet, but the fact that like she came to you where you guys did have a past life together, and then everything that's going through, right? Letting go, having freedom, and then past lives, Akashic Records, and then her coming up as this Falcon, it was like a triple message almost, you know, like I'm free, we've released, and yes, I was a part of a past life of yours.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And like there's a lot of strife with Vikings, right? A lot of fighting. I don't know about you, but I think about Vikings, it's like they they had a they had to live kind of roughly, or they, you know, maybe even in some places chose to live that way. And that's what I was doing in myself was all of this fighting, right? And then I released her at a time when I'm done fighting and I need to move into acceptance and I'm ready to open my heart in different ways again, and I want that fight gone. So even that really matches my life right now. It's so aligned.

SPEAKER_01

So a lot of that has came up, you know. Uh and I think that's why we are the way that we are, because at least for me, my my Nina was Nordic, you know. So I so we have that connection, but to experience it and know, like you've you've seen your past lives, I've seen my past lives, and you know, going through that, that it's like, oh my gosh, this is why we are the way that we are with some things, because you do have to have this hard exterior.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know, you do have and it's like, no, I I have to be strong, I have to move forward, I have to do this, like I have to be a certain way because just like generational work, past life carries over, you know what I mean? So it's like the I just love it all together, your story, because it was like, mom, you can be free from this life. You can open up your heart now, you can have this freedom of being able to move forward and not carrying this wall that you have to be strong anymore. You can let yourself be vulnerable and be free.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And that literally aligns with what I'm healing my relationship so perfectly. Mm-hmm. Even the tug of war, right? That we spoke of in the beginning with this retrograde, the tug of war between the head and the heart. And that's really what I did is like I was in a tug of war between my head that was like seeing logically that she needed to go, my heart that didn't want to let her go. And I had to go to my soul and her soul and say, Is this time? And then really it was my soul that said yes, because I I didn't want to believe either my head or my heart, right? They were just fighting. And it was her soul, it was it was my soul, right? I went to soul for the answer because that blends the head and the heart, that bypasses the fight, the tug of war, and it gives you truth always. And so when I went there, that was when I had messaged you, it was like, yes or no, like yes, I'm like, I knew it already, I just don't want to admit it. Yeah, so yeah. Last week was a week. Yes, it was. It was a week. Yeah. I love this so much. There's a lot of goodness in here for everybody, of current astrological things, working through emotions, having that cohesiveness or trying to.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

Tools To End The Inner War

SPEAKER_00

So as we close out, what advice do you have? I know we've given a lot today, but if you were to give advice for how to stop the war inside of yourself, to stop the tug of war, to surrender, like what is the one piece of advice that you would give people?

SPEAKER_01

That's a good question. For me, it would just to be like review. Review the little things that have happened, trust that you're being carried through the process, and uh if you can try to allow your mind and heart to come to a place of just understanding. And how to do that for me is I literally just visualize uh that you're gonna hear a lot of this throughout everything, is to visualize just for me, I just visualize uh uh light coming down from above and then light coming up, and then I just let it mix in the middle of my hard space. It's kind of like, okay, let's clear out what's going on up here, let's clear out what's going on down here so that we can just have it mixed together in our hard space, our center, and be like, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so you're not spinning in anymore, you're not trying to try and answer your calling in the healing to receive your truth.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And then have a grace and Frankie moment. That's what we do. Yeah. Sometimes that's what you need.

SPEAKER_00

And uh what you're saying, in case they don't know, is that we just like, can I just frankie this out? So we just speak, we just talk about it and get it out in a safe space because usually through that expression we hear ourselves, right? It's like uh, or we just feel better because we let it out. But there's a lot of magic that happens when you can just let yourself freely talk to somebody without inhibition, without, oh, don't say this or don't feel that, right? No, you get to feel everything you're feeling, you get to say everything you're saying, and then this is a safe space to do it. And then you usually get sort of some sort of release or new understanding through that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. You feel told in the process, like you're not going through it alone. And then you get clarity through listening to yourself, that at the end of it, it's like, thanks for holding that space, but like I don't need anything, you know. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

And that's a good, by the way, for anyone listening. Sometimes you need to say that, hey, I don't need feedback right now, I just need to let this out, or hey, I require or would love feedback right now, right? Like having that clear um knowing for somebody who you're gonna be speaking to, so you don't get like advice if you didn't want it, or you don't get reflection if you didn't want it, right? Like being really clear with what we're doing because that's how we do it. Hey, I need to Frankie this, or hey, I really need support right now. What do you think? And then that gives it's very kind to each other, so we know, hey, this is what I need.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I love that so much. I think for me, it's similar. I go to my soul. I I try to get out of my thoughts, I try to get, you know, like I move through my emotions and I go to my soul, which is exactly what you're saying. By going to that visualization, you're going to your soul. And you're like, okay, give me the truth whether I like it or not. That's kind of what I say is like, I want the truth no matter what it is. Yeah. And then let myself sit in that until it comes forward. It can be hard though, because my mind wants to spin, it wants to know. I'm actually, you know, kind of working on that right now with a different thing in my life. I want to know, I need to know. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. And then that's my signal. Like, you're spinning. Go to a place of receiving, ask for guidance, and do something else until you hear it. And then that whisper usually comes in.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and for you, I bet it is like the way to kind of root into it is by harnessing that Virgo energy, right? Getting grounded, getting rooted, yeah, dropping into your soul. I mean, this is obviously a little bit different, but um at least for retrogrades, that would be a good way. Any earth sign that you know is there your earth sign rising, it would be beneficial during this time to just ground yourself, root yourself, go for a walk outside, sit in the sun for a little bit, be in nature.

SPEAKER_00

So for just to pick your brain, I know we're ending here, but to pick your brain. So if you're a fire sign, what like a rising fire sign, or yeah, what would you say for each one of the elements? So whether you're water, just quickly, if you're you know, a fire rising sign right now during retrograde, what might be a couple tools?

SPEAKER_01

So for earth I already explained, you want to be, you know, in nature, you want to root yourself, whether it's visualizing or anything of that nature, eating earthy foods for fire signs, it's definitely going to be uh speaking about it or moving it out because we're action-based, right? So we have to feel it in order to heal it. And a lot of fire signs don't like feeling. I mean, we're both fire suns, right? It's like we don't want to feel it, we just want to like move forward, but you have to feel it. So you gotta feel it and then move it out because we are action-based. So we have to, whether you go for a walk and then allow yourself to feel it as you're walking, you have to dream something. Yeah, you gotta do something. Um water signs are going to be grounding as well because of all of the um water that we already had. If you use too much water, it's too much water. So it's like an excess of emotion. So they're gonna want to ground. And then for air signs, it is going to be a lot of air signs are gonna notice that there's a lot ruminating in their brain. So they're going to have to really drop into their soul, right? But then theirs is also like fire signs where they're gonna have to be able to move it out, but voice it. Okay. So theirs are gonna be big Grace and Frankie moments to have that like, okay, let's work through this, let's process this. They have to hear themselves and then also ask for signs. So it's like, okay, have I moved through this? Show me, you know, a feather or show whatever you want to ask for, right? So that their brain can drop out of it and be like, oh my gosh, I asked for this. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, where they see that external sign to calm them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I love that. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. They have to move though, too, just not as much as like me, like fire signs.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Thank you for your wisdom. I I feel like this can be really helpful for people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It's almost over.

SPEAKER_00

That's the other, that's the other piece. Just know this is almost over. On a high note. We're almost done.

SPEAKER_01

Two more weeks. Yeah, like a week and a half, two weeks. Some people will probably feel it a little differently. Okay. Um so it just depends.

SPEAKER_00

Oh beautiful.

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SPEAKER_00

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SPEAKER_01

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