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Bet Big Talk Loud Podcast Live from Las Vegas with Chris Hodge and JR

SPEAKER_00

Welcome back to the Bed Big Talk Loud Podcast. I am Chris Hodge coming to you from Las Vegas. Got my main man Jr in the studio who I miss so much. It is the first day of May. I miss my boy. He is so funny.

SPEAKER_01

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

Got your 7-Eleven coffee. No, I got I got all got my C4. I got my monster. I couldn't find C4 anywhere. Sorry, C4. Apologize. Sorry, Celsius. I apologize. Uh went with Monster today. Uh, but good to be with you guys. Man, I JR boy, I tell you, yeah, I don't know why I ever bet table games. I really don't. I don't know why I go down and bet blackjack. It's a waste of my time. It's just I should just go and hand them the money.

SPEAKER_01

That's because you're not systematic. You and I have talked about this. Before we even started, I'm like, can I just give you a systematic way to beat their ass? And and you listen, you're like, you know what? I'm gonna go try that. But I know you. You're gonna go down there, it'll work for like four or five minutes, and then you're gonna be like, ah, screw this. Bang, bang, bang. Just start.

SPEAKER_00

What's that? What's that? ADHD hits in or HD or whatever. Some D. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I hope it's not some D. Oh, yeah, right. I can see you got a beautiful naked piece of ass behind you. That's freaking awesome. Hell of a room. Was that the striptease room?

SPEAKER_00

No, no, I hope not. My wife is lurking around here somewhere. Um, I'll tell you, my wife and I yesterday we went to see um The Wizard of Ours at the sphere. Oh, I saw it. Well amazing. That show was amazing. You were here, you saw it when you were here last week.

SPEAKER_01

I sure was two weeks ago. About um, yeah, what was that, a month ago, a month and a half ago, six weeks ago? Yeah, we sat all the way at the top. I went all the way to the top because I was told you could see everything, but then I didn't get to catch any of the red apples or any of the stuff that was coming out of the ceiling. But it was from some yeah, they had that that that I think it was a drone. Looked like a man flying uh uh around the sphere at the bottom.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was great.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, there was also some shit in there that I didn't think I I've ever seen in the Wizard of Oz, like the the the ants crawling and you know, the the detail of everything was just downright amazing. But I still can't.

SPEAKER_00

The show was great. Uh you you know how I my my hatred of humanity just kicks in because I I don't understand why someone would do this, right? So you you you this fear, anyone who's ever been here, it's steep, oh yeah, right? And um, so there's this woman, you know, there's there's people sitting right in front of me, they got like the first five or six seats, right? So there's this woman who gets seat six or seven, whatever. She has to go to the middle aisle, and she's like, No, I I can't walk past you, I can't climb over you. You all have to get out. I would have told this woman to go fuck herself. Like, why if you if you're that type of woman or person that can't walk over people, why the fuck do you book a seat in the middle of the aisle? That's what number one or number 20 is for.

SPEAKER_01

Correct. Or you could just go grab a handicap seat if you can't get through people. I mean, can we can can we call it what it is because she was too goddamn fat?

SPEAKER_00

Actually, she wasn't fat, she just looked like one of these annoying type women with an annoying type husband. Oh, yeah, Karen. When she made this, uh yeah, I don't even know. That might be an insult to Karen's. I don't even know. Like this woman, I'll tell you the truth. I looked at my wife and I was like, no way I would have gotten up. You booked to see, well, you got plenty of room. Go in front of me. Not only did she make this poor family get up and they were older, she made them walk out of the aisle. They had to walk out of the aisle so this woman could go to the middle of the row. And I and I looked at it, I'm like, this is why I hate people.

SPEAKER_01

See, dogs are good. Yeah, but you're like me. You're a big dude, right? You ever go to a game and you you you you're booked in the middle, so it sucks. And there's like 14 people that you gotta walk past, and even when they stand up as a big guy, it's like a little, oh shit, I may fall, spill a beer on the guy to your left, you know. I mean, it's not fun, but you you do it anyway. You're nice and careful, and you you know I am never in the middle.

SPEAKER_00

Never if my wife doesn't book me on an aisle, whether a plane or a game or anything in between, I do not go. Oh, I'm on the aisle all the time.

SPEAKER_01

But when we fly, if it's not first class, because you know how I am, anything over four hours I need first class, I'm just gonna it's no good. But if we get on an airplane, coach, and I tell her, right, where do you want to sit? It's like I'm taking a window or an aisle. If only middle's available for two seats together, screw, I don't need to sit next to you. Go somewhere else on the plane if you want an aisle or something. Otherwise, you're taking the middle. I'm never taking the middle. I had a bad experience. One time I was coming back from Vegas and I was so happy, I'm like, all right, cool. We're, you know, set up in a seat, almost ready to go. And last minute, now my seat was empty next to me. This gigantic man comes on the plane. And where's he gotta sit? Right next to me. Now, mind you, I talked somebody into giving me their goddamn seat, okay? So that I could have the aisle.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you'll you're one of those. You broke it.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm like, no, and I was so happy. This guy sits down. He was so big that the seatbelt would not wrap around him. He had to get a seatbelt extension. I didn't even know these existed, okay? Had to go get another seatbelt to clip into the seatbelt to make it bigger to go around his fat ass. Unreal. And the whole time I'm like this.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, man. That's a tough flight. I always tell I always tell my wife, man, if you're that if you're that fat, buy two seats. I feel like the airline should make you buy two seats. Inconveniencing someone who ate a salad because you go eat everything in the world, and you're a pig, and you gotta inconvenience the world. I don't understand it, but hey, it is what it is. Um, we got some really good things going on with sports now. That's a lot of fun. Really exciting. I'm just trying to, for me personally, you know, I got my team out here, I got to coach a game tonight. I'm just trying to get out of it without an argument with a referee. That's it. And I swear, if they watch this podcast, motherfucker's gonna have it in for me. Brother waiting for you.

SPEAKER_01

If you don't think that they're watching, you're crazy. They know you're talking about them. They're having a meeting right before they get on the field. And you know that Hodge is talking shit about us, right? If you guys see a catch that you could call that it's incomplete, and it's catch, call it incomplete. You know that that's what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00

It's just amazing, man. It's just amazing how bad they are. But I'll double down. I'm not telling anything that anyone who's ever coached football know these guys stuck. Everyone, like they all know they're terrible. Like, it's just something you have to deal with. There's a great scene with John Gruden when they when they show John Gruden Mike Dub. He just looks over at a referee and goes, Do you guys even know the rules? And it's so like apropos. It's so like, do you know the goddamn rules? Like, and and what and if you know them, why do you fuck them up? I used to love listening to it.

SPEAKER_01

That's actually one that pisses me off. John Gruden not being in the NF NFL, not being a commentator, not being a it really pisses me off because he's one of the greatest minds of the game of my lifetime. He really is. Used to love listening to him, and his hatred for the refs made it awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Now I get um, you know, I tell my guys they get out here Wednesday, I'm like, hey, please don't do anything stupid, right? Okay. So, you know, obviously Vegas is I I see a text in the morning, 4.26 a.m., which is 7.26, my body clock Eastern time. They're all at a club, Harris Club, wherever the hell they are. And I'm like, oh my God, I hope we don't get it tonight, man. These guys are out 4:30 in the morning, Vegas, it's 7:30 our time. I'm like, oh boy, it's game day. I don't even want to text them yet. Like, hey boys, we got a meeting in a couple hours. You gonna have a practice today or what? Oh, we got a team walkthrough at the hotel. Um, where's the game being played? What what field are you playing on? If you know something, that's a great question, right? Like, I show up to the team meeting and and admin and team president, hey, we're going here. I'm like, great, hop on the bus and bring me to wherever going on. You don't even know where you're playing. No, I just know where the meeting is.

SPEAKER_01

I'm wondering if it's the old because I I used to live in Vegas. Um I'm wondering.

SPEAKER_00

20 minutes away from the street.

SPEAKER_01

I got a feeling you're playing at the old Sam Boyd field. That's where that's where UNLV used to play. Dirt parking lot. You better bring your four-wheel drive to get in and out of there.

SPEAKER_00

Man, I'm on a bus, bro. My wife gotta figure it out. And uh hit some golf yesterday. Not bad. 99, broke a hundred. So um, but it it was uh 99.

SPEAKER_01

You said it was nice. Wow, you that okay. So I I played yesterday also, and uh I beat uh our friend, mutual friend in the office, had a hell of a round. Now you know me. If I shoot 102, it's a normal round, right? 101. If I if I break a hundred, it's great. I shot a 92 yesterday, legit. That's great. It was for me. Yeah, I mean, I was happy with it.

SPEAKER_00

I'm uh I haven't played in a year.

SPEAKER_01

I just put the driver away. Put the driver away using five wood and three wood off the T. Just don't get in trouble, just get the ball down there straight. Confidence, bang. Long holes are tough, though. Long holes are tough.

SPEAKER_00

So um, no, no guest on the show today because just with the logistics of me traveling, being out until you know, yeah, but we'll get we'll get back to it next week. We we're trying to work on an N another NFL Hall of Famer to come on. Um, we had Marshall Falk on a couple of weeks ago. He did a great interview. We got some uh we got some UFC guys uh lined up. They heard Chris Algiri's interview when he told me that boxing is so much harder than UFC. I got I got like a plethora of calls from UFC guys. Hey man, what is nonsense? We want to come on, so trying to work that deal out. But um, should be a fun weekend, man. The Benavidez fight is tomorrow night, that should be great. Kentucky Derby's. Think about it.

SPEAKER_01

Kentucky Derby and then the Benavide uh uh uh the the UFC fight. I can't say his name. Benavidez, man.

SPEAKER_00

Benavidez, Benavidez, there you go, versus Ramirez. Should be a great fight. Um, I'm gonna have some fun with that. Uh man, I'll tell you. Uh you know, and it's funny, I did not bet a lot on this personally, and I was so mad at myself. So I'm gonna give you the story of what happens, right? So we go to the sphere yesterday, okay? We're watching the The Wizard of Ours, right? So I get my just I'm all get my time messed up. Like, and I'm like, oh shit, the Knicks game is starting in like six minutes, right? So I don't have enough time to run up to my room to bet the game, right? So I'm just going through my pocket, I got like $700 on me. I'm like, fuck it. Just put $700 down, Nick's first half. Got the ticket, can show like $700, Nick's first half. Money line, by the way, Nick's first half. Don't pay attention, you know, get up to my room, get dressed, you know, whatever, shower it up. Look at the score, and I'm like, this. I'm like, what does that say? Why? Because it was like it was like 72 22. And I'm like, what the hell is up with the ESPN app right now on the phone? Because there's no way this basketball game's 72-22, especially with the Knicks, right? Like, like no way, right? So I'm like, like, whatever. So I'm like, this can't be real. I actually put my phone thinking my phone is glitching. True story. Like, thinking my phone's fucked up.

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Come on.

SPEAKER_00

I go, this is true. I go back downstairs, I get into the sports book, I look up. I have never been more upset to only have 700 motherfucking dollars on a game. I'm like, the niche, they even when they win it, because if I had gone up to my room, I load up on this game, but because I get back late and I'm an idiot and I forget the time, I don't bet enough on it. And they went by a thousand in the first half.

SPEAKER_01

And not for nothing. If they're only up 15 at the half, they're probably gonna lose. So they had to go up 50 in order to be able to cover the second half, even though I think they said first time ever a team has had, I think it was a 47-point lead in the first half, and first time ever in playoff history, a team scored a hundred before the other team scored 50. That's insane.

SPEAKER_00

How about this one? How about being down, and I don't I don't have the exact halftime score, I don't remember what it was, but I know the Knicks were up by like 50. 47. How about all right? So, how about being up 47 and only being plus three and a half in the second half? So you're telling me you expect them to win by 43? Like, like, and they covered the second half. So I'm sitting there and I'm like, there's no way I could load up on Knicks in the second half because you figure they're gonna pull every. I'd have better.

SPEAKER_01

Whoa, were they minus 50? 50 and a half?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, no, at halftime, the Knicks were up 47, 48, whatever they were up. They were plus three and a half in the second half.

SPEAKER_01

Plus three.

SPEAKER_00

But I'm thinking like, plus three and a half, but I'm thinking like Atlanta can't win the second half by 10 when they're down 100.

SPEAKER_01

No, Knicks won up by I believe they outscored them by four points in the second half.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the Knicks won the Knicks won the second half too. But I'll tell you, man, I've never been more disgusted with my life to just only win 700 on that. I it was like I lost. I went to the window. I know that field, that does suck. Yeah, I went up to the window and I give the ticket to the lady and she's like, oh, I'm like, yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_01

There's been a couple of times where I'm like, ah, you know, and got 25 bucks. They give you free play for 25 bucks. You're throwing some stupid 16 parlay and you hit it for like 8 G's. You're like, if I would have just added a zero like I normally do and had 250 on it, would have been 80 G's, not 8 G's. So yeah. You know what?

SPEAKER_00

I love this place so much, man. The buffoonery out here, or even any casino, you know, you go down, you bet $700 on the friggin' Knicks, right? I got four drink tickets. They're around here, so I still got them around here somewhere. I've been using four drink tickets for betting $700 lousy dollars on the New York Knicks. I just went through a marker in about 12 minutes in blackjack. I don't give you a shit. Nothing. Nothing.

SPEAKER_01

Well, they'll give you all the free drinks you want. They're just not gonna give you drink tickets. You got to drink it at the table so you get smashed and play blackjack. I'm like, yo, it's back when you're 700. How about this? D did anybody know the history of free drinks in Las Vegas? Like, that was not a thing when they built it. Okay. When back in the day when they built when when Bugsy Siegel came in and built the flamingo, there was no free drinks. There was no free room. It was come spend your money, spend the money on the room, get drunk, all on your own dime, right? Benny Binion of Binion's Horseshoe. When he opened up the horseshoe on Fremont Street to get players to come there, offered free drinks. The rest of the strip went insane. They wanted him taken out, they wanted him assassinated because they were lit, he legitimately stole all the business to go to Fremont Street and hang out at Binion's because everyone's getting smashed for free. And before you know it, within six months, every casino in the strip giving out free drinks, and now it's almost like they got to pass a law to stop them from getting people smashed. It's amazing. I think if they could serve crack at the table, they would.

SPEAKER_00

You know, it's worse for me because like, okay, if I went down to blackjack and I'm an alcoholic and I'm fucking slammed and I and I lose a quick few thousand, like I could at least make the excuse that I'm an alcoholic. Okay, whatever. I go down there of sound mind. Sure. Same as me. And I get killed in blackjack. Craps was pretty good, though. I had some fun with craps last night. That was that was we had a good run there. That's a fun game. But um, oh boy, the cards just tell the truth, up or down right now for the trip. Down. On table, yeah. Oh, absolutely down. Um, I just I walked into the the room this morning. I looked at my wife. I'm like, I don't know why. I just bet table games is just bet sports, get all the money back in sports, then they won't want to give it to me. So I mean, it just is what it is. But no, definitely down right now for the trip. And and if we lose tonight, it's just uh don't even know. I don't even feel we should be able to do it.

SPEAKER_01

You shouldn't even gamble tonight, man. You got a big game tomorrow. You shouldn't play tonight. I got a game tonight. Oh, the game's tonight. Oh, tonight. I knew it was tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00

We we play uh what time is it? It's 11:35 Eastern time, 8.35 out here. We play at six o'clock out here. Wow. We got we're we're good. We got a team meeting at one o'clock out here. My guys, and if they're all gonna watch this pocket, they know it. They were out at 7:30 in the morning just getting back.

SPEAKER_01

So they're all gonna have some good naps before they get over to the team meeting. Hey, listen, it's not like your opponents aren't out getting hammered too.

SPEAKER_00

I hope they are. I mean, but listen, if we were minus 14 and a half and I'm the head coach and I have some inside information, they're like my God's foul till 4:30 in the morning. You better bet it on top. They get out and be like, oh shit, man, I gotta try to cover this game. Um let me ask you a question.

SPEAKER_01

Honestly, I mean, you know the teams in your own league. Are you the favorite or the underdog in this game?

SPEAKER_00

No, we're the we'll we'd be favorite today, and and we are you would be we are probably one of the more talented teams in the league. You know, it's just um we don't get to practice as much as some other teams do.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think you've ever said that to me before. That's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we talent athlete for athlete. Oh man, there's not many teams that are more athletic than us. I I really I've never stood on the sideline in this league. I've been in the league for nine years now, and thought a team was more talented than us. And I say that to my boys all the time. I said, you guys are the most talented team, but we don't get to practice a lot. Um, you know, we miss some easy plays that we we've had open. And again, you know, I hate to make an excuse, sound like that guy. Practice hurts, but I mean, you know, if a ref doesn't fuck up a call this year with three and oh, instead we're two and one, you know, and and that's what gets you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but even you said that call wasn't necessarily the game. It was momentum at the time.

SPEAKER_00

We don't know, but right. Yeah, I mean, you're down three-nothing, you're going in to score a touchdown. It's a windy day, it's rainy, you know, it's gonna be a low-scoring game anyway. Um, they don't make the call, you know, at worst, it makes the field goal closer. Instead of a 45-yard field goal, it turns into a you know 24-yard field goal, uh, which our guy probably makes, you know, so it's just it's a referee. But this is three three different games with three different ridiculous calls that have gone against us. So I can't wait to see what happens tonight.

SPEAKER_01

The other teams get to do more practice than you because I know you guys only practice about an hour and a half a week, which is insane.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's tough. Hour and a half to two hours a week. Um, other teams, you know, FDNY and YPD, you know, they get two practices a week, three hours, and and they have more people in there to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_01

I think that they are so much more deep than you because you're corrections, right? So I mean, when you say talent-wise, I would think that there's so many more officers or firefighters than there are correction officers. So I would just think depth, they would go much deeper than you.

SPEAKER_00

They are, they are much deeper, but again, you know, they're not more athletic. I have no, I'll I'll tell it to their coach, I'll tell I'll announce it to anyone. Like, we are the more athletic team, and uh that's what keeps us in a lot of games, is the the guys that I have their athleticism. So um, you know, we got a guy from Ohio State, you know, who's a who's a phenomenal player, an even better person. He's a great kid. Um, he's on our team, and then you know, this kid, every time he touches the ball, he can take it to the house. It there's a lot of talent in the league, you know. So it's it's fun lead to coaching, and you know, hopefully uh we go, we came out here, we get it done tonight. Gotta win. Gotta win. Have to win, have to win.

SPEAKER_01

Or you have to keep your guys on task, man. You should be calling every one of them. Where are you? I hope you're taking a nap.

SPEAKER_00

They're grown men, man. They go out, they do whatever they do, bro. It's not kids, you know. I yeah, I'm not gonna mention the program, but you know, when I was coaching uh, you know, offense coordinator for college team, JUCO team, you know, we had we had a situation where the the kids did something crazy at night, but the tape was on their door. So anyone that's ever traveled with a team, right? Coach has a curfew, whatever that curfew is, let's say 10 o'clock at night. And what they do is they put tape on your uh hotel door, and then they'll go, you know, at five or six in the morning, you know, if the tape is off, you know the kid or the kids left the room, right? Our kids get out of the room, right? But and we know they're out of the room because they got caught, right? But they get caught the next morning, and but their tape was on the door. So we're going through the whole issue of what they did. We're not gonna get into that because I can't, I'm not actually allowed to. But I finally get to them and I go to this one kid, one of our running backs. I'm like, yo, how the hell did you guys have the tape on the door? You guys left the room, but somehow the tape was back on the door. How the hell did you do that? Now I've traveled with teams forever. I've been in college. This is I never thought of this. Like, hey man, we just gave the woman at the desk $20 each, and she just came up and put the tape on the door.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm like, oh my god, say they had to pay someone off or one of the other players were like, I'll put your tape back on.

SPEAKER_00

That's gee. No, I mean, because how does it now, if it's another player, how's she getting in the room? It can't be a player because they're in the room. So I'm like, man, all of these years I spent traveling with football teams and tape on my door. We never thought to pay someone to put the tape back.

SPEAKER_01

That would have been a great move, man. That's something I definitely would have done. I've been like, um, so how much is it gonna take for you to go put tape back up on my door when we go up there? The funny part of this is the funny thing is that those are kids that are paying them off. 19-year-olds.

SPEAKER_00

Again, I can't, I'm not allowed to say the program, okay, but you know, obviously I'm coaching boys. There was a division one girls volleyball team staying at the same hotel. So we got a bunch of football players, we got a bunch of female volleyball players. I get down into the hotel room, uh, into the into the hotel lobby that morning. Head coach is just we just cross paths, and he's like, You gotta go talk to that coach. And he tells me everything he's had that happened, and he and I'm like, What the hell? I gotta talk to her for. Why don't you go talk to her? You're the head coach. He's like, She don't like me too much. You gotta go talk to her. Like, we're gonna have a problem. Oh man, I go over to this woman and I'm like, so it was no one got hurt, no complaints, right? Which is the most important thing, right? No, no, no complaints on either side. So I look at her, I'm like, kids being kids, we really want our admins finding this out, right? And she's like, Yeah, I guess kids being kids. I'm like, good luck today. She's like, You too. My head coach, my head coach is like, What'd you say to her? I'm like, we're good, bro. And he's like, Well, what'd you say? I'm like, we're good. Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_01

Was there some coexistence going on?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there was a lot of coexistence going on, man. I don't know. But again, you know, kid kids being kids on the road, it happens, you know. Um, you just want to make sure they're safe. No complaints either which way, obviously. Um, and then it all it was just kids being kids and and The funny part about that is both of those teams that day got obliterated that night. Really? Right? Like we got killed in that game. Oh. Now we were playing, we were playing a very, very good football team. They got killed. They were actually a good volleyball team and they got swept in their series. So it was like, man, you guys are really outside partying that night.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's almost like during uh I I remember 20 years ago I learned uh uh uh that Hawaii, as bad of a football team as they can be at times. Teams that travel to Hawaii have a tendency to lose. And I I didn't realize not only the travel time, but they go out of their way to get you to stay up all night if you're a college kid coming into Hawaii. They want you to go get drunk, they want to send girls to you, they want you completely inept and not ready to play football. And that's why teams have traveled to Hawaii minus 21 and a half and lost outright. Because they just smart as shit, man. They know how to get you uh, you know. I mean, you're in Hawaii. When else are you gonna get to go to Hawaii?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I remember being uh, I don't remember if it's my junior or senior year, but we were playing a big game on the road, really big game. And uh we did end up winning the game, but it's funny, we're in the team hotel, 4:30 in the morning, the fire alarm goes off. Oh yeah, like really, you know. Oh, this is just a drill. We had this was the funniest scene, man. If if cell phones like cell phone cameras existed at this time, this would have been hilarious. We got so mad, we had people sleeping on cars outside, they wouldn't let us back in, so we just climbed on top of the hood of cars. Wow, and just laid down. They're like, You can't do that. Fuck you, man. Yeah, you can't watch the car along wall. Yeah, you're like, are you out of your fucking mind? So we just had people laying back on the hood of cars. That's fucking awesome. Because we we would not only not had to leave the hotel room, they didn't let us back in for like two hours. Like they they literally bring the fire, and and you just you know what's going on. Of course, this wasn't it, right? This was nonsense. Um, but we did end up winning that particular game. But yeah, that's the the shit that happens on the road.

SPEAKER_01

Am I allowed to ask what school you were going against that pulled that shit on you?

SPEAKER_00

Uh, you know me. I I don't really say the program names, but it was pretty big program names. Uh, you know, I try to stay away from the program names. Uh, we're doing a gambling podcast. I try to stay away from that nonsense. Um, but hey, look, look, it happens on the highest level. I don't remember the guy's name. You might. Who was who's the uh the center? Actually, I think this guy might have just died, unfortunately. Um, who's the center on the Raiders who who for the night before the Super Bowl just went and got obliterated and uh didn't show up to the Super Bowl? Is that Barrett Robbins? Something like that.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, I know who you're talking about. Um it's not gonna come to me while I'm here. I'm gonna have to look at it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think I think it might have been Barrett Robbins. And he didn't do that. My apologies. I I do believe he he did. Um, but yeah, I mean, you go on the road, man, you just never know. No, you just never know what's gonna happen. Um, so it that's what makes playing on the road, you know, a little bit more difficult. Forget being in um, you know, uh unfriendly confines and dealing with all the fans and all the nonsense and being in an unfamiliar locker room and you're on a different body clock time and all this nonsense. You know, you just never know what's gonna happen. No.

SPEAKER_01

So skipping uh subjects here, a lot of action last night in hockey, man. I know we've been talking a little bit about hockey, but just pretty awesome. Uh Arizona Wild get it done. They uh they beat the stars. Uh we gave that out. Uh Minnesota Wild. Yo, man, it wasn't. You always get me on my goddamn gas. What is wrong with you? I'm allowed to make mistakes sometimes, bro.

SPEAKER_00

What is in that 7-Eleven thing, man? Get one of these, man. Arizona Wild. Minnesota Wild.

SPEAKER_01

Nonstop. It's just like two weeks ago. You had to pull me in the office and be like, hey, you can't make mistakes like this because I said Dry Siddle instead of Drysdale while we were going over something. Like, you think I give a shit what the trolls are saying on the comments on YouTube? Get the hell out of here. I'm listening if you know one thing about me, I'm I'm I'm, you know, I'm not patting myself, but I know my shit, especially when it comes to this stuff, okay? 100%. I talk a little faster than my brain works sometimes. So shit pops out. I just call them gaffs, man. You know, I don't know if you know this, but there's a president that made it all the way to the presidency with nothing but gaffs. So it's not the worst thing in the world. Or a what do you a president? All of them. Well no, there was one recently that I mean, I don't want to piss people off, but he couldn't even go upstairs without falling down. So I mean, gaffs are well.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean, gaffs are gaffs, but but the difference between you're you know you're sitting in the studio and I'm sitting in a hotel room doing a podcast. We don't do editing. We don't edit this shit. Nah, we don't talk about it either. Actually, you were sending me uh a text maybe 10 minutes before we went on. Like, hey, are we talking about anything special?

SPEAKER_01

I even said, I'm like, what are we talking about? Can I get a little just a little bit of research done here? No, you're like, um, yeah, I don't know. I'm in Vegas. I'm like, all right. Let's swing it, baby.

SPEAKER_00

No, but we've been um listen, we all we all make mistakes the time, but the thing about it is we laugh about it, you know, like we're not too stuck up on ourselves.

SPEAKER_01

I laugh at myself about it. Uh did I say Arizona Wild? What the fuck is wrong about that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out like, you know, if you would have said the uh you know Arizona coyotes who don't exist anymore, but at least that's something.

SPEAKER_01

Whatever, man. So I gave out the wild on the series bet. We scored out on that one. Gave out the Flyers, which were plus 140 on the series bet. They finished that. I I thought they were gonna sweep. They wound up uh going, I think Pittsburgh won two games, so wound up going six games in that match. Um, and uh now we've got the Mammoth and the and the Knights, which has really been going back and forth. Uh, those who who know, I gave out the Mammoth in that series, and then we unfortunately the one I gave out on the podcast, the only one that has lost so far was the Edmonton Oilers. And what a fantastic interview. If you didn't watch the interview with uh Connor McDavid after the game yesterday, go watch it. Talk about a guy that is sugarcoating nothing and just being completely frank about we had a mediocre team with high expectations, and this is what you get. Uh it it just he laid it out perfectly. And they really were. Listen, if you don't play defense in the in in in hockey, you're gonna get yourself in trouble, right? You can't just be an offensive powerhouse unless you're gonna score 10 goals a game and play absolutely no defense and have a shit ass two goalies on top of it. So Anaheim Ducks, congratulations. Absolutely relentless. I mean, they whether they were down 2-0, 3-0, they didn't stop. And it was really fun to watch. I think it's good for uh Southern California. Uh I'm really happy for the Ducks, even though we lost our series bet. Um, just the right team won, I think it's gonna be great. And now you got another, you know, couple games tonight. Uh Sabres uh are looking to close it out. You got the Knights going and trying to close out the Mammoth. I think that's gonna go seven games. So, really a lot of great hockey left, and then you know, round two, it only gets bigger and better.

SPEAKER_02

A lot of overtime games, man.

SPEAKER_01

That game the other night, Philadelphia goes. How about double overtime zero zero? They went almost five full periods without a goal. Talk about great goaltending.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not trying to piss off the Edmonton fans or the Canadian fans. You know, I know you got Montreal still there. You know, Canada team hasn't won a Stanley Cup since '93. It's unreal. You almost worry about you worry about Edmonton, Mike. They they might have missed their window. And I believe there are windows in in sports when you're competing for a championship. You know, Edmonton, you know, they they run into Florida, you know. Um, who's the better hockey team, you know, on both of those series? But Edmonton, you know, they they come back from, I think they came back from 3-0 one time and lost a tough game seven.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And then last year, but you know, sometimes you you you have a window. You do. And anyone knows.

SPEAKER_01

Right? McDavid's gonna win Stanley Cups. I just don't think they're gonna be with Edmonton.

SPEAKER_00

I listen, I all intent and purposes, man, he's a great ambassador for the league. He's the best player of a generation. He is an unreal talent. Uh uh not many like him. He's he's a top five talent. No doubt. I don't know, J.R. Man. I I don't think he's gonna win one. I listen, I think he's smart enough.

SPEAKER_01

This is why he's talking shit about his own team. Because he's not afraid. A, they're not gonna try to get rid of him. B, I think he's gonna opt out and try to go somewhere else.

SPEAKER_00

Where he can only I don't know what their contract, I don't know what his contract's gonna do.

SPEAKER_01

I think with it, not not this season, but next season is gonna be his last year in Edmonton.

SPEAKER_00

And you're we're we're approaching, I don't think we're there yet with him, but we are approaching it. Uh where where the saying starts, best player to never win a Stanley Cup. Like we are approaching it. Again, he is an all-world talent. We are not saying anything bad about Conor McDavid.

SPEAKER_01

If Connor McDavid goes to the wild, okay, they win a Stanley Cup because of their defense. If he goes to the Mammoth and uh, you know, the mammoth will win. They I'm telling you, they just play zero defense with no goalie. You can't win a Stanley Cup without a great goalie and defenders.

SPEAKER_00

But sometimes, you know, and we're seeing this with the Mets right now, right? Yeah, and I'm not comparing Edmonton to the Mets. The Mets are a dumpster fire. They are atrocious. But you know, if you look at like what the Yankees did, so they lose out on Juan Soto. He goes and signs $765 million, and then the Yankees allotted money to other players and got more players what they would have got for Juan Soto. Now, I don't know if that's gonna result in the Yankees winning the World Series, but the Yankees have had chances to win the World Series, they made it to a World Series, they're in the playoffs every year. Um, so the Mets go out and spend all this money, and the Mets are a joke. Now you're talking about a team like uh a player like Conor McDavid. If another team either trades for him, like let's say let you're gonna hate this. Let's just hypot high high, let's do a hypothetical. Let's say the Rangers traded for him, right? Just because it's the Rangers. What the Rangers would have to give up to get that man might hurt them more. Now let's say a team signs him. You gotta sign him to a max contract, and you can't allot that money to anywhere else. So I don't believe he's gonna win one in Edmonton, although they could. And I think we're approaching it. We're like one or two years away here from saying the best player of a generation might be the best player to never win a Stanley Cup.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't see that happening. I really don't. I think he's gonna win a Stanley Cup. Um, I don't think anyone's gonna trade because, like you said, they'll have to give up way too much. But when he becomes uh an unrestricted free agent, I think he gets to go make his own deal. I think that he'll go make a deal with a team. He'll get his but listen, the good thing about the NHL right now also is that um, you know, salary caps are going up and up and up, right? I mean, they're paying players more and more money. So uh there's gonna be another increase in the cap this after this season. There's gonna be another increase the year after. The the the interest in in hockey is going through the roof, right? So um I think that he'll be able to get his max contract. I mean, look, you got Dreisidel on that team with him right now, right? What unbelievable player. I mean, they talk about a guy that can really take care of business. So um, you know, it just comes down to defense. For Edmonton, uh, they tried to fix the goaltender problem. They went out and got Tristan Jari. It was just a complete disaster. Um, you know, now don't get me wrong, if they if they made a trade with the Rangers um and and were able to uh let's say get rid of one of their other key players, but bring in, let's say, Shisturkin to Edmonton and and and and McDavid stays around.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, well, if McDavid stays around the room. McDavid stays around.

SPEAKER_01

Now you're talking about an Edmonton team that can win the Stanley Cup. They need a goaltender or at least really good defense, and they lack both. You can't win. Yeah, you can't win.

SPEAKER_00

I'll tell you this, and you know this about me, and and I know this about you. You're an NHL guy. Um, I am an NBA guy.

SPEAKER_01

Big time.

SPEAKER_00

I I I'm a basketball guy. I'm not a hockey guy.

SPEAKER_01

I even said to you the other night, how do you sit there and watch that shit when you got hockey?

SPEAKER_00

Listen, I and here is a I never thought that I would ever admit this, but there's no comparison between the two leagues in the playoffs. There's no comparison, it's not even close.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, NBA always gets softer during the playoffs.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's just what's going on in the NBA, just from a total perspective, and and they're so talented. That's the thing. Um, but they're just not showcasing their talent in the way that you know the NHL playoffs, and I don't I don't believe anyone, uh even the biggest NHL hater out there, you know, and I'm one of them, right? I'm not an NHL guy. No, you're not, right? It's it's it's no comparison. No comparison. It's no comparison.

SPEAKER_01

These guys play 110% in every game in the playoffs, man. It's like I I used to watch playoff basketball a lot when I was young, right? As a big Knicks fan. You know, the Jordan years, the 90s. These guys got into the playoffs, man. They they didn't you had to peel them off the court at the end of the game. They gave it everything they had, sweat pouring from every pore in their body to the point where they can't even make another step, but they're doing it anyway. You don't see that today. They make so much fucking money that they're more worried about hurting their pinky than they are about going out there and winning games. Listen, if you're gonna pay me $40 million a year, I can give a shit if I win. You're giving me $40 million, win or lose. Have a nice day.

SPEAKER_00

I'm good. There was a different mentality. I mean, for all the Kobe Bryant fans, I'm one of those guys. You know, this guy won a uh game seven against the Celtics. Now, he did not perform well in that game, but he played that series with a broken finger on his shooting hand. Correct. And you don't see that anymore. It was net it was never even a thought. No, not even a thought that he would miss a game.

SPEAKER_01

Correct.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I don't know what happened to Durant. Durant like sprained his ankle, Durant Proud, whatever the injury was. You don't see him in a play, like Colby, and my Michael played with food poisoning. They called it the flu game, and they'll always call it a flu game because it's that's just an epic name. But he played with food poisoning.

SPEAKER_01

I can't imagine I can't get out of bed with food poisoning, no less play a basketball game. And he probably scored 30 or more.

SPEAKER_00

Scored and he made the game winning shot. He hit the game winning three, or you know, the the uh the shot to put them up before um, you know, uh Utah missed the shot there, but it's just a different mentality. But these hockey players are in the same ilk, you know. You see these guys go down the block of slap shot, they hit with a 110 mile per hour slap shot. They can't freaking they gotta hop off the ice because they're gonna be able to get the biggest thing.

SPEAKER_01

They can't even they'll go down it. How about the guy loses his stick and still out there just throwing his body in front of the puck and trying to make checks? They're they're a different animal. I mean, it's also the same thing where you can see a guy that's 5'11 go against a six foot six guy and take him down in a fight. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_00

It's just different mentality. It really is. The game is it's just different. Um, there's you know, if you're watching the NHL game, you're watching an NBA game and it's side by side in the playoffs. I mean, you're you're you're looking here. I mean, you're looking at the NHL.

SPEAKER_01

I almost feel like that. Yeah, I think that the money is ruining it.

SPEAKER_00

I really do. It might be. Um, I know we got some there's some great hockey tonight. We're doing this interview a little earlier. Um, you like anything tonight?

SPEAKER_01

You know, I really do think the mammoth uh are gonna make it enforce a game seven. So I would take the mammoth on the money line, playing Vegas tonight. Um, it really should be a great game. They got bet they did just a better defensive team. Uh, I I almost have a crush on uh a little bit of a man crush on uh on uh on uh Vamilka of um the the goalie for the mammoth. The kid, he's just amazing, makes some uh amazing stops, fun to watch. So low scoring game. Look for the mammoth to uh come out on top, maybe two to one, three to two, something like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, now I can't believe I'm saying this because I still haven't I'm I'm looking at this line right now, okay? Um, and I thought it would be around eight at seven and a half. Um tomorrow night, sixes uh Celtics game seven. And you know, you saw this with the Knicks and the Hawks, and the Knicks were down two and one in that series, and then the Knicks just found something. Yeah, you know, and then the next three games weren't really even, I mean, especially you know, Thursday's game. That that's I don't even know what the hell happened with that. I mean, I don't know how an NBA team is down by a thousand, but um I think the the Sixers have just found something to get MB'd back, right? It took him a game to really get his, you know, get his wind and everything, his legs under him. And you know, you're looking at Paul George, Tyrese Maxie, Edge, Edge home. You look uh obviously embied, and you're starting to look at their starter five up against the Celtics starting five. And you know, the Sixers got a really good basketball team. But you know how they have a really good basketball team.

SPEAKER_01

You know how I feel about Embiid. I think this guy is uh one of the most undervalued players right now. I mean, he's uh he just gets injured too much, but what he brings to the game when he plays, it's it's incredible. The presence in the middle.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's not like it used to be where you know you go to a deciding game and you know bought old Boston Garden or you know, where they play now, um, and you just weren't winning a deciding game in Boston. Like it just you just weren't doing it. Correct. That mystique is kind of worn off just a little. No doubt. Um, but it's it's still a game seven in Boston, which is never a great situation for a road team.

SPEAKER_01

No doubt.

SPEAKER_00

But I just I think it's gonna be a close game. And I'm not saying Boston's gonna lose the game. I do believe they are the overall better basketball team, but Philadelphia seems like they found something. And um, you know, that game really was never close yesterday in game six, and and Boston had a chance to close them out in game five, and that game wasn't really close either. Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the seven and a half with the Sixers tomorrow night.

SPEAKER_01

I I think they could win the game outright. I agree completely with you. I mean, I I feel like I've watched a couple of the games even after the facts and the highlights, and just momentum seems to be, you know, uh wind at the sails, if you will. So uh we both had Boston to win the East, obviously, but now with the way Philadelphia's playing, I mean, you know, things change.

SPEAKER_00

So I said it, and and listen, we're not always right. It's like, you know, you say I said it, I I would have been shocked if it was anything less than OKC San Antonio, and now that might happen in the West, and it looks like it's going to uh in the in the conference finals. I also said I'd be shocked if it was anything other than Detroit and Boston. Well, Detroit's playing for their life tonight, and Boston's got to do a dog game tomorrow. Yep. So um if if Boston and Detroit go out in the first round, I I mean, I just that is shocking to me.

SPEAKER_01

Like Edmonton going out in the first round in hockey. It's unreal. You just didn't see it coming. I mean, Anaheim, really? The the ducks? Yeah. I mean, it is what it is, though. So um let me let me ask you a question because I know that you had uh you didn't see it coming with the Knicks, obviously. Uh, what are the odds the Knicks can get to the actual finals?

SPEAKER_00

I I I'm still saying zero because they're the Knicks. Like, uh no, I I give them listening.

SPEAKER_01

They figured out the formula, just put up 47 more than the other team in the first half.

SPEAKER_00

I I'm I am you know how I came on this podcast three months ago, and I said, you know, the Jet fan, they don't even realize how bad it is because they've been kicked in the nuts so many times, they just don't even feel it anymore. The Knicks, the Knicks fan is in the same ilk. Like, you know, if you're if you're a there is, I am a Yankees fan. Okay, that's the only team I root for in professional sports. But if there was one team I want to see win, I've I've said this numerous times, the Knicks. I would love to see the Knicks win an NBA title. Same here. But they have been, you know, the fan of the Knicks have just been kicked in the nuts so many times. And I say this to my boy Nick, uh, who's a big Knicks fan, I say it all the time. I would not believe the Knicks are gonna win an NBA championship until they're playing a closeout game in the NBA finals. They're up by 60 with about four minutes to go. And then I might start to believe they might not fuck that lead up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's funny because even if they get there, even if they get there, they're not beating Oklahoma City. No one's beating Oklahoma City or San Antonio for that matter.

SPEAKER_00

And listen, uh obviously we're doing this podcast Friday morning. You know, Lakers were up 3-0. Now it's 3-2. Yep. Um, they got the Rockets tonight, they're underdogs tonight. I mean, if that goes to 3-3, they're gonna lose. I mean, that is gonna be an epic game seven um for the first round. So we'll see if it happens again. Not saying the Lakers are gonna lose tonight. I do believe, you know, without Durant, um, even as currently constructed with the Lakers injuries, I think the Lakers are the better basketball team. But um, if that gets to 3-3, that's gonna be insane. Um, so we got some fun things coming up. Kentucky Derby tomorrow. Uh, JR, go ahead and close this out.

SPEAKER_01

Guys, got some great hockey tonight, great weekend. You got the derby, you got the fights, you got hockey, you got NBA playoffs. It's just a great time to be alive and to be a sports better. So be safe. Have fun. Let's go out there and make some money.

SPEAKER_00

And if you're a referee watching this, please don't fuck me on calls tonight. I'll see you later, brother.

SPEAKER_01

You got it. Be safe.