Bet Big Talk Loud Podcast with Chris Hodge & JR

Bet Big Talk Loud Podcast with Chris Hodge & JR

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Welcome back to the Bet Big Talk Loud Podcast for Friday, June 5th. I am Chris Hodge. This is JR, decked out in his attire. I feel great today, man. I really do. I came in today. You're a front runner. I don't care. I told you last week. I hopped onto the bandwagon. They got me on a sled on the back like it's snowing at. I'm skinning. Listen, so I don't care. What was it? A couple months ago, not even, you asked me what was the odds that the Knicks would even come out of the East. And I went, zero. Zero. Now I take a lot of heat for this, but that's fine. You should. No, you see, I should not. Because you're not a real Knicks fan. I didn't say I'm. First of all, I sat up here two months ago and said I hate the sport. NBA's terrible. Okay. However, the playoffs have been fantastic. And if you think I'm going to miss an opportunity, it's the first time in my lifetime that we're really going to have a legit shot at what we're doing. Well, you were around in 94. They were up 3-2 in that series while we were all watching it. But and this is a true legit shot. They have a legit shot, but every Knicks fan out there knows what I did, right? Every Knicks fan. See, see him and his brother, they're big Islander fans. And the Islanders can win three games in November, and these guys will come in, they're going to win the Stanley Cup. Going all the way. The Knicks fans, we've been kicked in the dick way too much. We know better. So we just stay silent. We stay quiet. I'm not saying a word. You could have just done what I did. You take a 25-year hibernation. After they lost him, what was 99 with 10? Zero shot. It's worked so far. And I move on. Keep my mouth shut. All right. I keep my mouth shut. You had them getting beat by how many? Boston. I had to, I thought they would lose to Boston. Philadelphia took care of Boston. I've been Atlanta in the first round. You know what? Yes and no. Yes, because I don't trust the organization as a whole, but this particular basketball team, they've been fun to watch. Holy cow. They've been fun to watch. They've got me changing my mind. I might actually watch a lot of NBA. They've been fun to watch. They really do. Let me get to something else that I took heat for. And I took heat for this because of him. I took heat because of him. Let me set, let me give you the story. So last year we're on radio, not even on a podcast. We're on radio, Sports Investors Daily, every Saturday and Sunday. And this man, JR, asks me a question where if there was a car that was submerged in water, and there was a stranger-to-me woman and a stranger dog in that car, and I was able to save one of them, who would I save? That's a no-brainer. Okay, we'll get to that. Without even thinking, I chose the dog. I stand by the dog. I took heat for it. Chris, you don't care about human beings. A bunch of wackos on the internet agreeing with you. Yeah. Alright, well, hold on for a second, right? So I heard Chris, you don't care about human beings. I don't know why anyone thinks that's a knock. I'm looking right in the camera. No, I don't. I hate you all. Right? So I really don't give a fuck who you think you're insulting. Doesn't matter to me. Anywho, I took some I took some heat for it. And then what happens this past week? Now, there's been reports that this story isn't true. But did you see the people that were dumb enough to get themselves stuck on a roller coaster? They weren't dumb enough to get themselves stuck. They got stuck. They were dumb enough to go on a roller coaster. They got stuck. Oh, so you don't you don't do roller coasters either? So you you do you do any rides? No, I can't do I can't do roller coasters due to the the head issues, the concussions. And before that, did you do it? I did like roller coasters. It was fantastic. They were. Now I just got to the point where I'm too old. So anyway, a group of people get stuck. The firefighters got to go up a thousand feet, however high, to rescue them. Risk their lives. And now there is a story coming out that someone is suing because she felt she was touched in an inappropriate way. Come on. That story has been out there. Galveston, that's where the city, that's where the um the city took place in the saying. That is a false claim, but I don't believe the false claim shit. Like if there's smoke, there's fire. And it would make sense that a bitch of a person who's about to plummet a thousand feet to her death would sue. So this is why you save the dog. Even if he grabbed her by the titties to save her. Doesn't matter. And pulled her up. Yeah. Like held onto a nipple just to get her in. Is that inappropriate? He's saving her life. I agree. Here's why. How about the guy that owns the dog suing the fire department? Oh. Here's why I would always save the dog. You don't worry about a lawsuit, and you have a friend that loves you forever. I would let the human being splatter all over the ground in a thousand different pieces. Before I would let a dog do that. Stranger. Even if I knew I was gonna get sued, I'd still save the human first. You're a schmuck. I'm sorry. I I give a shit about human life more. And I love my dog. Actually, you're gonna I I don't even I didn't even tell you this. My my dog, I've only had her about two years. She's about two and a half years old. She's about 21 pounds, Labradoodle terrier. So she likes Labradoodle. Oh, she's fucking cute. I don't give a shit what you say. If I bring her in, you're gonna be like, oh my God. In the words of the great I didn't buy the dog. In the words of the great Ron Swanson from Parks and Wreck, any dog under 50 pounds is a cat. Okay. I feel the same way. You know, I've got giant dogs my whole life. I came home, my wife had this dog. What am I supposed to do? Put it, you know, get rid of it. I can't get rid of it. Whatever. I love the dog. Fuck off. It's a good dog. So it is. We let her out this morning and she takes off after birds. And my wife was always like, oh, she's never gonna hurt a bird, she's never gonna hurt. She plays with the butterflies. Pounched on this bird. Ah! Started choking it out. Okay. Birds are freaking out. Parents are flying down. Sent a message. Now you don't have to worry about birds in the backyard anymore. Yelling at the dog. Stop! No! The dog is the biggest thing. I had to go get the dog off the bird, save the bird. Fuck the bird. What do you mean, fuck the bird? No one cares. I do. You're an idiot for I don't understand. Yo, I don't want to see my dog murder an innocent baby bird in the back. What is this? Am I the Indian? Please comment. Tell me I'm not. What is wrong with you? You take one bird out, all the others learn their lessons. I wish we could do that with human beings. I'm having work done in my yard. In my backyard, I had this giant overhang put in, right? So they haven't put in the under part of it yet. Okay. I've got a nest. Beautiful homing pigeons. Well, not pigeons, uh doves, whatever, morning doves, red breasts, fucking gorgeous. And they're in there. What am I supposed to do? Rip the nest out and kill the babies in it so that I can get my work done? Well, if you're okay with your dog murdering fucking babies. If the bird is dumb enough, the bird has wings, can fly. That's the bird's baby birds coming down, parents screaming, oh my god, there's a murderous dog. Should have been better, parents. Yeah. Dog got put inside and was You punished the dog. I absolutely did. Terrible. I I didn't do anything bad, I just yelled at it. No, no murdering birds. I got a dog in my, it goes out in my backyard and to watch this thing hunt is crazy. This thing gets on its belly like it's a combat crawl and just starts like a cat and gets squirrels and gets and but And you let it. Yeah, absolutely, because it wants to hunt. But it it actually, once it gets it and kills it, when I now I gotta go clean it up because my wife will never do that, right? The dog will sit right next to me as I'm cleaning this thing up, like depressed. Like I worked so hard to get that squirrel. And you're not gonna let me eat it? Right, you're throwing it out. Anyway. Yeah, so me, I is that the black one or the brown one? That's Sadie. That's the black one. Okay. Uh, I stand by. Uh I would save the dog. I will save the dog forever, and it is what it is. And for anyone who gives heat, that's saying I hate human beings. I don't know what to tell you. Not that it's not true. I'm not a fan of people either. My wife always asks me to go places. I'm like, I don't know nobody. She's like, so what? That's how you know people. I'm like, I don't like people. Oh, but that doesn't mean I want them all to die. Or run for president. He's got, don't forget, in like podcast number two, he wants to run for president. Slogan, kill them all. Everyone dies. Everyone dies. Everyone dies. Like, kill them all. Whatever. Everyone dies with the slogan. And I would have gotten votes. I know. You know, speaking of the sick part. Speaking of the people who run for pol you know, uh the politicians out there are all a bunch of scams, you know. Every one of them. Every one of them. Every one of them. But so there's this story coming out about the Knicks right now. Where this is great. You know, New York City obviously has a lot of crime, right? It is what you don't say. It has a lot of crime. And the crime rates during the Knicks games have dropped like 78%. We're all watching the Knick game. The Knicks just gotta play 24-7. We'll get crime down to zero. I cannot believe that, because this story's been out for a few days now. I cannot believe the politicians, you know, Mamdanny and Holko, these scams of people. Oh my god. I cannot believe that they haven't taken credit for it yet. It's unreal. Like they haven't. Oh, you know they're gonna come out and say crime has been way down for the month of May and June. Just turns out that the Knicks aren't a sick run and every night. Crime's down 80%. Thank you, Jalen Brunson. That's unbelievable. Wow, he's a special. So hey, look, Friday, tonight's Friday. We're doing a podcast. I don't know if you guys will get this before game two starts tonight at 8:30. We're gonna speak about that in just a moment. But figure 8:30 Eastern time to what 11:30? Good time to be in New York. You don't have to worry about any crimes. You can go out, have some fun, maybe go down a dark alley. You know what I want to know? You know what I want to know, right? So it says the stat was 78%. The crime is dropped by 78%. What fucking idiot out there is in the 22%? Like, why are you not watching the Knicks? I was just gonna say, can you just imagine? Why are you not watching the Knicks? Think about it. 80% of criminals watch basketball. Correct. It's fucked the other 20%. What are you doing? Why are you doing it? I can tell you, those are the soccer fans. Well, you got the World Cup starting right now. So we're gonna have crime down to zero if the Knicks and the World Cup. Man, this is great. But I'm obviously I'm reading that stat. Oh my god, you killed me. Man, if I was the judge, I'm like, wait a second. Wait a second now, hold on. You went out and robbed during game two of the Knicks game. Put this motherfucker away. He's gone 25 to life. Stick of gum. The guy's an idiot. Um, but yeah, it should be uh obviously the Knicks. You know, I I take I took offense, not personally, just at the overall notion. You know, all these things coming out about game one, and they're all saying the Knicks stole game one. I did not. I first of all I hate when that happened that was said, right? I did not believe the Knicks stole game one. Absolutely not. The Knicks took game one. They were down, I think, 13 at one point, 14, but it was literally just an instant. Like you blinked your eyes and all of a sudden it was five again. I mean, they they went down and they were missing shots left and right when they went down. It's not like they weren't getting offensive possessions, it's not like they weren't able to get to the hoop, just nothing was going down. And Wemby definitely creates issues. I mean, every shot's gotta have a hierarchy, every shot's got they're they're maneuvering, and I I tell you, of all the teams I've watched and San Antonio go against, I feel like the Knicks have really found a way to keep him boxed out, get him away from the offensive possession, let shots get off a little more often. So for me, I think the Knicks are just they're better coached right now, they've got better strategy, and they definitely have better athletes. But there's no doubt San Antonio is the best player on the court. So the thing with Wembinana, in the last series against OKC, he was basically guarding Hartenstein. Yeah. Right? And that guy's not going to shoot a three, right? You don't have to come out and guard him anywhere near the elbow or you know, out near the three-point line. The series before that was Gobert, who can't even shoot layups, right? So forget that. So Wembinana, for the better part of two series, and there are some switches, and you get on different players, that happens throughout the course of the game, but the majority. For the better part of the last two series, he's had to guard guys that cannot shoot the ball. No. Cat can't shoot the ball. See, everyone went into this series, and by the way, this is not spoking like a Knicks fan. I am a Knicks fan, I'm telling you. And and I'm not really a fan of teams. I've always said, even on his podcast, the one team I've always wanted to see win a championship was the Knicks. Yes. That's it. I'm not a big fan, otherwise, because of our business, right? But I am rooting for the Knicks. Same thing. Right? Okay. Everyone's saying Wembayana's the problem. Cat's the problem. Because you got to go out and guard this guy. If you don't guard him at the three-point line, he can make the three. That's right. Numerous times in the last game, game one, you saw Wembyana go out and try to guard him. Cat went right by him. Right around him. Yep. Went right by him. So Wembinana has to work a lot harder. Now, in the last series where the refs allowed Hartenstein to get away with on Wenbayana was almost criminal. I mean, this guy was holding him. I mean, elbows. I mean, it was violent. It was criminal. He's such a skinny kid. You'd think that at some point he's going to break a rib or something. And he at one point, I guess, had enough. That's when Wenbayana throws the elbow and he got thrown out of the game. He didn't get suspended. Right. Which I don't believe he should have been suspended. Absolutely. You guys could differ on that. No. But I think the matchup issue actually is cat for the Spurs. And I think that it's the listen, the Knicks have obvious better bench, right? They've got more depth. They they just seem to have better legs. Even when Brunson's not in the game, they're still putting up points. They're still scoring. I mean, not as much, obviously, with his presence, but Brunson is um he's playing really well. When he got hit in the knee, you can hear New York gasp. Yeah, absolutely. Oh my god. Collectively. Yeah. And then you go and you watch the replay. You're like, and you see him coming into the locker room, like kind of bouncing on it. You're like, all right, he'll be all right. So where are you with this? Again, a little biased for me, because they are the one team I've wanted to see win. Same here. I am 47 years old, so born in 1979. So let's just go back 50 years. You're you're you're a 76, 75? 75. All right, let's go back to 75, 51 years. All right, let's go back to that. To me, and I'll uh Knicks fans, I'm saying the word if. This is Kobe Bryant, job's not finished. We know that. I'm saying the word if. If the Knicks get this done, to me, it is the biggest championship in New York since in the last since 1975. I I don't think there's a bigger one. The Rangers winning the Stanley Cup. That was important. That was big, man. That was 42 years in the making. Like in my 54 years in the making. That was 50. 1940. 1940. All I know is that I remember watching my father, who like every game watched the Rangers. When I was growing up, that man was pasted to every Ranger game and just cursed them at the end of every year. Like, why do I watch this piece of shit? But and my dad, God bless him. They win the cup. The man did not watch hockey for 25 years. That was it, right? He saw it all. And now he's a Vegas fan, right? Now he's a big Vegas fan because he lives out there. But he rode off into the sunset with the Stanley Cup win, like John Elway, and just called it a day. That's it. I've been tortured enough. They're never going to do this again. So I'm done. Called it out. It's insane that he's now a Vegas fan. Well, yeah, but still, cheers against the Rangers. Like, that was your team, man. I mean, it is. They should be at least a solid number, too. Absolutely. Look, Nick, the Rangers in 94. Now, breaking that curse and what Messier did was insane. Insane. Great. But if you look at every other sport in New York, right? You have the Jets and the Giants, so you got a fan base divided. Probably more Giants fans than Jet fans. But if the Jets ever win a Super Bowl, it'll mean a lot to the Jets fans because they've been tortured like unlike anything else. That might be as big as bigger than the Knicks. But there's all you got to remember something. If the Jets do win a Super Bowl, there's a fraction of people in New York, more than 50%, that hate that. They do. Okay. Rangers, Islanders. There are more Ranger fans than Islander fans, okay? But if the Rangers win, the Islander fans are going to be miserable. If the Islanders win, the Ranger fans are going to be miserable. Long Island, I think, has more Islander fans. But not New York as a whole. Not New York in the city, right? Then you got Buffalo. Yeah, that doesn't count. And here we go. Buffalo. They already hate it. Send the emails. Send the emails. Every time I go against the city. I thought it got me a Buffalo saber shirt for my birthday. There is never people out there listening, there has never been a more love-hate relationship with a city and a sports personality, I guess, than me. When I go with Buffalo, when we bet Buffalo, the mafia loves me. When we go on radio, we give out against Buffalo, you would think I raped and murdered everyone in their family. I actually feel like calling Secret Service to protect you. I mean, the emails and the threats that come in, and then the very next week, you'll, you know, because these people send us the emails from the same address. I don't care. Like go fuck yourself, Chris. Hope you die. Shit like that, right? Um, then the next week, if we're on Buffalo, the same guy will send me an email. Glad you came to your senses. The following week, go against Buffalo, you're an asshole again. I hope you step in front of a bus. It's the great, and but that's just not a one-off. That's a lot off. Happens all the time. We actually have fun. We I they're horrible. They're not gonna be a good thing. When I go against them, though, the bills are. They're fucking fun, but man, some of them are just nasty. It's like people. People are nasty. I'm just not used to it. You're not used to people being nasty. What world have you grown up? Would you grow up on Pluto? Listen, I'm not one of those guys that go on the internet, like I'm not a social media guy, so I don't know how bad it is, right? And now I see it, right? Since we're doing the show. People suck. They really do. They they suck. And to think that if someone who I don't know was gonna send me an email in any which way, shape, or form, wishing death or wishing success, at the end of the day. But what we do for a living, at least at the level I do it, I gotta trust a lot of people. Sure. It's a lot of trust. Both ways. Guys gotta trust me, I gotta trust them. So I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but goddamn, am I wrong a lot? Yeah. People do suck. At the end of the day, I'm like, people just suck. Yeah. I mean, and look, for all of the customers that we have, you know, we we truly, we truly try the hardest we can to make sure, you know, people are doing okay. I mean, we really put all the time. I take it hard when I lose a game or if I have a bad day, I take it probably much harder than I should. Yep, agreed. But, you know, the whole thing here is, you know, if you look at what's going on in society right now, there's such a difference of opinion. And it's not a political podcast. We're not, we're never doing that, right? It's still a divided country right now. It's a divided country, but you're just used to it, right? Like, so if someone like the Bills Mafia and listen, the Bills Mafia, now I want you to know something, right? I am rooting for you guys to eventually win a Super Bowl. I mean, you guys have been tortured. I so I did a podcast to really for you weren't a part of this to really set off the people from Buffalo, right? Like, I just decided to go fuck with you guys, right? So the podcast was actually named God Hates Buffalo. It's still up. You can go watch it. What was that? A short? Yeah, it was a short. Yeah, quick, like five minutes, whatever. And you I just listed the losses that they had, and you cannot tell me that a superior being actually likes you people. Not even including the. But I'm rooting. If there was a if there was a fan base that I would like to see win because of the torture that he's gone through, torture. It's Buffalo. I have no problem. I would and Josh Allen, uh uh, by all intents and purposes, is a good human being. Fantastic guy. So I would love to see him win. But going back to the point. What is it that they just can't get a fucking, they can't win a Stanley Cup, they can't win a fucking champion. What do you mean, what is it? I just told you what it is. God hates them. I just said it. Like so, if the Knicks win, no one cares about the Nets. Like, no one, right? We we no one in New York cares about the Brooklyn Nets. They're still New Jersey. This is how fucking stupid Kevin Durant is. He actually went to the Brooklyn Nets thinking someone gives a fuck. No one gives a fuck. Like, no one gives a fuck about your titles. TD was a part of it. Right. No one cares about your two titles in Golden State. No one cares. Right? When you win in New York, it's different. Okay? No one cares about the Brooklyn Nets. The Knicks are different. So you have every other team, Giants and Jets, divide. Mets, Yankees divide. Okay? Rangers, Islanders divide. Everyone loves the Knicks. It's true. So the Knicks win to me, it's the biggest championship in my lifetime. It's also the most surprised. No one expected it. This came from left field. So now, what, 12 straight wins of plus 10 points or more? Well, seven straight on the road. That's insane. It's an insane number. And there's not, I mean, you could call Jalen a superstar, but he's not that superstar, right? Like, like, like Jokic, like, you know, like he's gonna be. He will be. They win this title. I agree. He's gonna be. No one expects because every team that wins over the last 15, 25 years has all got some type of superstar on the team, whether it was Steph Curry, whether it was Kobe Bryant. I disagree. Shaquila. I disagree. I think is he a top five player? He's not, but he's a superstar. He's a and you know what? There is a um, when I say superstar, I'm talking about the guy that's grabbing all the spotlight, like is all over the news. Let him witness. Let well, I we've been saying that. I say he's the best point guard in the league, in my opinion. Watch what happens. The the thing to me, right, with with Jalen Brunson, and it was there was a reporter, I believe the reporter asked Josh Hart this question. And it was a phenomenal question. Usually these media fucks are so stupid, they don't just the questions they they ask are ridiculous. But this guy asked, he goes, Yo, everyone seems to think they're better than Jalen Brunson. Until Till it's time to be better than Jalen Bronson. That is a phenomenal way to put that. Because everyone Bro, I'm used to the days. I remember Starks missing. I mean, I think he was one for 19, two for nineteen. Two or twenty one, I think. It was insane. It was ridiculous. This guy turns it on when he needs it. Like fourth quarter, last five minutes, just raindrops, raindrops. It's mind-blowing. And then you listen to you listen to the overall stupidity that goes on in life. And look, Draymond Green knows more about basketball than you and I combined will ever know, right? He's a great player, a great defensive player. He's a championship. He's a champion, four-time champion. But some of the things these guys say, I swear you guys, just come out and say you're doing it for clicks. I respect you more because this fucking idiot comes out and says, I don't think a 6'2, 6'3 guard could be a championship. You play with one. Steph Curry is that guy. Why would you play with the guy? He's gonna be a first ballot all-time Hall of Fame player. One of the greatest. You won four championships with him. Don't tell me you can't win with a small guard. You live with one. Oh my god. I didn't want to know you said that. It's one of the dumbest things you could possibly say. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I don't get it. And that's why I would not just from a fan, I would love to see Jalen Brunson shove it up everyone's ass. Everyone's. Listen, he seems, he just seems to be calm, cool, collected. He's he's playing unbelievable basketball. But they got to close it out. They do. And listen, so tonight. Great win. That's so fucking hard to do, man. So let's talk about this, and then we'll segue over to the NHL, which was, by the way, a great game last night. Great game last night. Um Spurs were minus five and a half, four and a half, five and a half in game one. Knicks obviously went outright. Total was never in doubt that game was always gonna stay below the number, which I believe. I gave out the under. I think it was 216 and a half. It started at 218 and a half. Call my buddy. I'm like, the only thing is the under's a lock. He goes, under you crazy. They score 130. I'm like, yeah, oh it's a lock. Yeah. Um now the line is up to Spurs minus six and a half. So let's speak about that. And again, if you're listening to this podcast while the game was going on or tomorrow on Saturday, much apologies. We're doing this at line of six and a half. 224 Eastern time on Friday. Right. So six and a half. So let's look at that. So if you take all of April, all of May, and obviously, you know, this first game here in June, right? The Knicks have won uh they've lost two games by a point. They lost their last game of the regular season against Charlotte when they've played, when they played no one. They all sat out, all their starters sat out for the most part, right? So you're talking about a span right now, I believe, 20-21 games, where they've lost two games where they've all played, I don't count the Charlotte game, by one point each, right? You're giving them six and a half tonight. You're also giving a team that has just won seven straight road games by double digits, which has never been done in NBA history before. You're giving that team six and a half. So either, so something's gonna be completely right or completely wrong, right? Because that is a head scratcher, is it? Not an odd line. We looked at it, you know. We I got here at 5 30 this morning. I'm looking at the line, I'm like, what on earth? What on earth? And now the total right around 215, right? So they they lowered that a little. I believe that obviously we all know, not saying anything different here. We know the Spurs are desperate tonight. They are. And I want to make this clear, not saying it as a fan, you and I are very good at keeping our biases out of this. We keep our emotions out of it. Here's the truth. I'm watching the fourth quarter the other night. The only guy on San Antonio that scared me was Wen Bignana. He was the only one. Yeah, they don't have much bias. Now they took Harper out. Why? I don't know. Castle, Vasselle. I did not fear another player. Me neither. On the Knicks, you know Jalen Brunson's a closer. OG hit two or three two or three threes in the fourth quarter. Cat can beat you. Mikhail Bridges had a couple big plays. Josh Hart had a bunch of big rebounds. And I'm just looking at the Knicks and I'm like, right now, everyone on the court can score for the Knicks. Now, you know Jalen Bronson's gonna take the ball. He is, right? I'm looking at the Spurs and I'm like, only when Bignana scares me right now. Not one other player on this team scares me in the fourth quarter. I mean, the only one that really I see having any kind of a game was I think you say uh Vassal. Vassal. Well, uh you had um a couple threes. I think uh kid made five threes in the in the first half. Yes. Champagne, something like that. Jim. Champagne? Champagne, something like that. I can't say his name. I know I'll get it wrong. And listen, the Spurs, great basketball team. You don't win 60, 62, whatever games they want in the West. You're a great basketball team. And and and by no means are we saying the Knicks are gonna walk through the series. We are not saying that. All I'm saying is when I was watching that fourth quarter the other night, it if it wasn't Wembanyana, I didn't believe anyone else could beat me. I still don't understand the point spread of six and a half. So it's odd. And they bring the number on the total down. And then so, you know, and we gave this out. So here's what we did. And if you're a bunch of customers, you know this, right? Um, the Knicks to start the series, I believe it started at plus 173, got as low as plus 160. Right. We had a lot of people bet the Knicks. Yeah, we had a lot of people bet the Knicks in the series, right? So and we we mentioned this a couple weeks ago with series bets, and if you think a team is gonna win, you could you could hedge out. So, you know, if you put a thousand on the Knicks, let's say plus 170. Sure. $700. Well, the Knicks are favored right now in the series. The Knicks are minus 127, the Spurs are plus 107. So you can come back with 1,000 on the Spurs at plus 107, you have a free bet. You have a free bet. You have a free, you're either gonna break even, make a couple bucks, or you're gonna win 700 bucks. Correct. No risk. None. That's what we talk about in in our particular business. That's a hedge. I mean, we we you you always want to put yourself in the best position, right? And we did give out the Knicks. I gave out the Knicks as a series bet. Um, I I I I tell you, I I I kind of I wouldn't hedge it right now. I I really wouldn't, unless you really want to guarantee it, because it's such a small amount that you're gonna make. Obviously. Yeah, but it's risk-free though. It is risk-free, but you got such a good shot. I mean, I believe that I the Knicks lose tonight. You lost your opportunity. You may as well do it tonight, and then you can get rid of it if you want to. The Knicks lose tonight, you lose the opportunity. Because now the line's gonna go back up to Spurs minus 150. So you lose the opportunity to make it risk free. You and I spoke about this even during football, because I know that we had a lot of tough games in college this year where we were up big, didn't sell, could have bought, could have bought out, could have bought out. Yep. Um, and and I'm not I've never been a big believer in the buyout because I feel like if you buy out, let's say, even half the time, well, now you got to win twice as much because you're taking half the money off the table. But if you lose one of those games, you're not supposed to lose, it's a it's a it's a change. You know, you put 10,000 on a game. Let's go. That's why the numbers got to be 75, 80%. And you should not do it every time. So I disagree, but I you you handle the money more than I do. My number would be 60%. 60% out on every time. Every time, every time, every time you fuck you out. Yeah, because so now then the big question is are you getting out on the downside? No. So if they're losing and you can get back 40% of the downside. No, I stay with it. I stay with it. That's bad strategy. You gotta do it both ways. I I don't think so because if you pick up. But you're losing 100%. I understand that. But if you did it, if we did that more last year, everyone would have made money. The comebacks that happened in college football, especially. I'm not disagreeing before my. Is that the way the seasons are gonna be from now on? So I did it. Very particular game I did it with was Oregon playing at Northwestern. I remember that game. Oregon uh does not cover, you know, I had a very good. That was up 17, I believe. No, they were up, they were up 34. Oh, that's okay. They were up 34, and I got out with 68% of my money. We were up three games, 17 was like the number. Oh, no, we were up way more than three games, 17. The game we didn't do it on was Texas and Vanderbilt.

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That's the game we didn't do it on. Um, but I did it personally on Oregon and Northwestern, and Oregon doesn't cover the game, so I would have lost 10 grand, right? Instead, I won back 6,800. That's a $16,800 swing. So that's that's much different, right? If I believe a team is gonna win, let's say you're um, let's say you're on Oregon against anyone, minus seven, and let's say they're down seven and it's a 60-40 buyout. Well, if you thought Oregon was gonna cover minus seven, you know, why do you why are you so scared if they're down seven? You know what I'm saying? What we're doing is we're protecting against the backdoor cover. The problem is if you do it on every game, if you pull out on every game that you're as soon as you hit 60%, because you're gonna every win is gonna get to 60% buyout at some point. Um, you know, not the ones that you saved your ass. Those are the ones that you can say, okay, that really changes the spreadsheet. Well, you have to look at the most of the time when you buy out, the large majority of the time, you're still gonna win that game. Yeah, I mean, but when you lose, you lose leaving all that money on your game. It's listen, they give it look, we talk about this, right? When you're betting. I think it has to be situational. Okay. When you're betting, the house has basically every advantage. Of course they do. The only time in sports betting, and I'll have this argument with anyone out there, you you know, whether you're in my industry or not, I have this argument. The only time in sports wagering where the house does not have an advantage is if you bet one game a year for $10,000. It doesn't matter what that game is, right? Now, the only advantage they have is if you lose, you're winning, you're losing $11,000 and you're winning back $10. But that's $50-50. I was just gonna say no juice. It's $50-50. That's the only way. That's it. Once you bet two games for the same amount, now they have two chances to make a thousand dollars. Correct. You gotta go two and oh to make money or one oh and one, right? They just gotta go one and one to make money. Correct. So you're just trying to put the math a little bit in your favor to the best of your ability. And this is why we talk about these parlays. Guys bet a three-team parley. Let's just say it's all minus 110. The true odds on that are eight to one. Sure. They pay you six to one. Promise, you're gonna have a lot of situations where you're an underdog, let's say you're plus seven in a football game and they score the first touchdown, you're gonna be offered 60% of your money in the first quarter. Take it. You're out. Guaranteed money. Guaranteed money, man. I I so we we say this all the time, and our customers out there listening, I might scratch their head at this, but we believe in it. Our job isn't to win. No, it's to make money. Right. I want you guys to understand that. Our job is to make you guys make money. That's all we care about. That's true. How we do it, we don't care. That's all we're trying to do. We're sitting down. I mean, yo, Saturday morning, we get here at 5 30, 5 o'clock, 5 30 in the morning. I mean, it the research that's going on, the hard work that we put in. That's not including what we did the night before. Absolutely. My my wife gets some of these the group texts that start going off at like 1.30 in the morning. Me and my, she's been with me 30 years, and still, every year, it's like, what, why do you have to stay? It's like, how do you not know this after 30 years? You know what it is? There's that break in in in you know the summer where they get to have some of our time, right? And then all of a sudden it's like, hey, after football time. And it's like, the family, sorry, I love you, but you don't exist right now. I'm way too, I'm way too tied up. So we got too many clients, we got too much going on. My joke to my wife, she knows this, yeah, right around the middle of August. Say I've said it to her for 25 years. See you in April. See you in April. See you in April. I don't want to hear about Thanksgiving. I don't want to hear about Christmas. I'll give you Christmas Eve. I'll give you Christmas Eve. We are opposite on that. I know you like I I like Thanksgiving. I like the family coming over. I know you don't. I am enjoying the Knicks, though. I got my niece and her boyfriend. They come to my house every night with their son to watch the Knicks game. I love it. Um, so there is someone you like. My yeah, my niece's boyfriend is a good kid. Okay. Right. Um It's nice to hear he's human. He is. He's a good kid. I'm talking about you. Oh. You're human. I don't care about it. You're human is showing. I don't hate everyone. Just almost everyone. Just almost everyone. Just can't stand, man, people. Um, so Knicks, uh San Antonio, game two tonight. Spurs, six and a half. Um, again, I'm not gonna give you a prediction on it because by the time you see this podcast game, it'll be over anyway. Um, but I do think the Knicks are going to win the series. Sure. I do think they're gonna win it at minus 125 right now. Um, so you know, take it at you as you will. Saying those words, I think the Knicks are gonna win. I'm just like don't want the Knicks fans. You know what I've done. You know what I've done. I just walk around, don't say anything too much, just move out of the way. Um, before we get going, I thought the NHL had a great game last night. Both games. For game one was a great game, game two was a great game. Listen, I I told everyone last night there's no way Carolina goes down 0-2, especially at home. And then I'm watching it with my wife, and they're down 3 0. 2-0. Uh they were down 2-0. 2-0, yeah. Yeah, and and I'm I'm watching, I'm like, you know, we ain't got a shot in this. And then he scored three in the third. And by the way, they're down 2-0 with 10 minutes to go in the game. A little bit. They scored three goals. Go up three to two. And Vegas scores late. Before they could even celebrate, Vegas scores. Yeah. They took uh Hart out of the net within a uh, what, 12 seconds of having him out of the net. They put pressure on, scored another goal, tied it up. Carolina gets the win in overtime. Um, but I just I mean, Vegas is playing. Listen, I I I watched that team live before Tortorella was there. I thought they were slow. I thought the goaltending sucked. There was so much detriment to that. And now I'm watching, it's like a different team. They're Tortorello's a good coach, man. He's fantastic. He's a good coach. And he's really riding the momentum. Yeah, he's a good coach. They're still slow. Okay. They're huge, though. I mean, Vegas is a very big team. They hit harder, they hit more, but they're slow. And Carolina needs to take advantage of that. And so Carolina's deeper, they're suffocating, they're faster. So Carolina minus 135 to win a series. I I still like Carolina to win the series. But again, you got so much more uh experience on Vegas. It's insane. But Carolina, they have gotten the monkey off their back again, and I I really hard to go against a uh uh a hockey team. They've lost two games in the playoffs. Hard to go against a Vegas team that was just 5-0 against Colorado and Carolina, the two best teams in the league. I know. Um, I I am listening hockey is not my thing. Never liked the sport, to be honest with you. Uh, even though I had a son that plays. Me personally, I would have leaned towards Vegas. I think they're like 110 right now. This man knows far more about hockey than I ever will. He watches it. I do not um I I don't really care much about the sport, but um, last night was a good game. It was. Yeah, last night was a good game. As long as Brenda Moore can get them doing what they need to, like they did in the third period, I think they're gonna come back. They got to steal a game. Obviously, at one of the next two. Yeah, I mean they gotta win one on the roof. Yeah, they gotta, yeah. If they come back down 3-1, that series is over. Agreed. Um, and just like if the Knicks win tonight and the Knicks go up 2-0, I don't say that series. I don't think the Spurs are gonna 6.5, right? I mean, like the home team going down 2-0 is pretty rare. Uh, listen, they could win tonight, not cover. They could. But um that uh that overall uh what's gonna happen Monday night in New York is gonna be crazy. I know. You think it's gonna be like uh it's gonna be crazy. First of all, just go just go on Stop. Look at the ticket price. Let me ask you a question. If they so we were talking about this, if if the Knicks win, yeah, do they light New York City on fire? Probably. Yeah, I say no. Probably. We're not Philadelphia. Oh, Philadelphia wasn't terrible. Yes, it was. I have a lot of friends in Philadelphia. I don't give a shit. He said it. Philly ball bags. Okay. No, man. I got my guys in clear. I love you guys. I coached them, they're good dudes. Um listen, these guys they love celebrating with cars on fire. I always said if you could throw, if you if there's one figure in life that should never be the victim of any assault, Santa Claus. We should all agree, Santa Claus, you don't fuck with. You leave Santa Claus alone. Well, they throwing batteries at Santa Claus and the coballs. They went to Philadelphia went after Santa Claus. They don't care about no one. That's a bunch of Chris Hodges, all packed up in one city. There's a great, there's a great scene in the. You ever seen a movie Life? Eddie Murphy, Marlowe. They're sitting at the lunch table and he's like, Santa Claus, which one of you motherfuckers killed Santa Claus? He's like, ah, it wasn't the Santa Claus. He was just wearing the hat, ringing the bell. Uh guys, hope you enjoy listening to the podcast. We were um working on having uh former UFC champion Matt Serra on. We were supposed to have him on today. We just couldn't match up the schedule. Um next week, UFC is doing the um UFC, the um the White House on the lawns. Yes, yes. I forget what that's called. Uh uh. That's gonna be cool. That's gonna be really cool. It's like a really good card. Uh also trying to line up Darrell Strawberry, just trying to work out the logistics of the timing and everything. Yeah, we'll get him on. And we got some big names lined up coming for the football season. So, guys, hope you enjoy listening to the Bet Big Talk Loud podcast. My man man, close it out. Come on, guys, we got another big Knicks game. We've got hockey. Let's go out there and make some money. Have a great weekend, everyone.