Ep 16 - Living offline in a Hyper - Online World!!

In this episode of TwoPeas in a Pod, we dive into the idea of living offline in a hyper-online world. From endless scrolling and digital overload to rediscovering presence, focus, and real-world connections — we explore how stepping back from constant connectivity can reshape our lives.

Whether you’re feeling burnt out by screens or simply curious about reclaiming your time, this conversation is for you.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:25

Rolling, yes, yes. So Rave tell me, when was the last time you were really bored? Honestly, Rave, let's uh let's today talk about something really serious, okay? When was the last time? Okay. Okay, now that's become my identity now. Yeah. I don't mind being called a TED Talker. Okay. TEDx speaker. Yeah, TEDx speaker.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

You'll be TED Talker only for me.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

Okay, I'll be TED Talker for you. Okay, but tell me. On a very serious note, Ray, when do you think you were really bored? The last time we were really bored. Let's forget the entire thing about our work and our lives. I think we've just become others right now. Okay? Like in our life.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

You can't like answer that question without taking into consideration the fact that life is what it is. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

And it's so sad that we never get a chance to be bored because we're constantly making these decisions and constantly, like, you know. I agree. I feel like boredom is just extinct, you know. Do you think anyone is bored these days? Of course, I think so. You know who? The privilege of being bored belongs to those kids who live with us. Yeah, exactly. Only at times I'm so bored. I'm bored. I'm bored.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

I'm bored. Oh my god, then are we gonna go?

SPEAKER_01 1:37

Yeah, like for everything. And then yesterday, okay, uh, two days ago, we uh uh Rudra comes up to me and says, Oh my god, I can't wait to be an adult so that I won't be so bored. I'm like, dude, dude. And then we had this really private conversation. Exactly. So we had this really private, he said that. Ma, tell me when you're free, I want to have this private conversation with you. And then I was like, Yeah, I'm free right now. We can't talk right now. And then we had this really deep conversation, and when it got deeper a little later, he's like, now he's just trying to have a sus conversation with me. What is a sus conversation, bro? Suspicious. Like nothing that I ever said was suspicious, but anyhow, and yeah, coming back to our topic, like I don't think we had it, like you know, as a concept is extinct. It's extinct, and I think when we had the um time in our hands, even then, I don't think we had uh the privilege of being bored, and that's exactly what we're gonna talk here today into peace and a form.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Why we don't have the privilege of being bored?

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Yeah, it's because of because of oh, because of the internet, yeah, yeah, because of the internet, and we have uh uh Instagram and everything around fingerprinting.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

We have digital saturation happening, happening, the luxury of being offline in a hyper online world, which is a literal rebel against the system moment because I feel like these days everybody is digitally saturated. Yeah, of course, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

I because I remember one time when I made this conscious decision to like not uh pick up the phone every time I'm bored, and I start that's when the habit of carrying a book with me began. So I was at our dentist's place and it was one of those crowded days, and people were sitting all around, and and I was the only person who was reading a book. That like dawned upon me, and that was much later. Not one fine day when I just woke up and decided to read a book, and I just like it became a habit so much so that so you can imagine the digital saturation happening uh hap happening happening among us, happening among us.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

It's a quiet threat that all of us are facing, whether we realize it or not. Yeah, I think I'm falling prey to living life online. You know, and it's something that we really need to address.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

No, but tell me honestly, find solutions. We are in a very digital era, you know. Like, remember, like you were telling me, um, I mean, I think we everything is on the internet, yeah. Like you are shopping on internet.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

So how do you actually like my work is in my pocket? Exactly. Work from anywhere as long as you're digitally connected. And for so many people, work is in their phones and it's and I think COVID kind of aided in a barrel. Yeah, work situation, and these days work is so remote and people live their lives.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

What happened? Think about it. Maybe during COVID, only this digital saturation started happening. We never had anything to do, right? Like we all had wow, that was a really nice beautiful period, actually, for me. I love COVID. I don't I don't like people who say I'm gonna cancel you if you say uh you thrived during COVID. I'm sorry, that's my thrive during COVID. Yeah, like we live, we all live together.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

I thrived only in the sense that we were happy with ourselves. With ourselves, happy to be home, happy to be cooked up, happy that we didn't have to step out for anything.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

I was baking bread. Yeah, you were big. And I was big, I was and you guys were breaking bread with me. Yeah, I was baking it, yeah. You were breaking it with me. Yeah, that is true, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

And we made everyone at a moment?

SPEAKER_01 5:21

No, no, just just a moment, just like that. Okay. Casually, casually cash, cash. Yeah. So, yeah, but I think that kind of happened during COVID time. A lot of us just sang on the internet, like danced on the internet, and like made a lot of money on the internet and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

That's just like Yeah. But I really missed the life that we had. At least I had before everything became like from the time I like my phone time, would probably be like so scary to look at. I don't even know why. I'm sure, Rave. I'm sure I am scared for looking at it. I'm not looking at my phone, like I think the most used app is obviously WhatsApp because I'm working on my phone.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

And coordinating on my phone and stuff like that. I don't use social media so much. But then I really miss life before, you know, when we really wouldn't care about where our phones were. Yeah, of course. Where we just used to take pictures and keep it for our joy. Yeah. And where we wouldn't really care about having our phones or not.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Remember, you were one of those people who needs to record every food that we eat, and you used to be so unwilling about it.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Now you're I used to romanticize life differently then. I'll take pictures and I'll post it then. Now also I romanticize life. That's it. I take pictures, but I'm not posting it.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

100%, yeah. But you used to understand.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Do you really miss that person though?

SPEAKER_01 6:39

I don't know. I can eat my food in peace. Like it'll be like photographed, right? Like it didn't be like documented. So I kind of enjoy this version of your rape. Kudos, kudos. I like work is taking up most of your time.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Yeah, like now I will jump at any and every opportunity to like get rid of my phone.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Yeah, all of us do. Like, I used to be this person who'll put my phone on silent by eight o'clock and leave it outside for charging. But now, as soon as I wake up, even before checking my pulse or anything, I'm always why would I check my pulse as soon as I wake up? I'm waking up because I'm alive. It's post lush. Sorely's happening. But yeah, uh, even before, like, you know, I wake up, I'm calling I'm opening WhatsApp and I'm sending out these messages to uh the doctors to see if they'll uh when we can schedule uh therapy sessions around, and and I need to do that because my kids need me fully after that. Because and I do not really enjoy that person who's always on the phone, but like, did you ever think about it, Dave? Maybe it's like it comes with the age, you know. We grow up and we do things and we are busy, it's got nothing to do with just Instagram or anything. We're on the phone because we are adults right now, but our parents are more adults than us, and they're not so much on their phones. Not like and mom did like a job where she could choose to retire. That is true, but I and please, and moms are the scariest of them all ever, girls ever on gals ever on Instagram, I mean like on WhatsApp or anything, because they're constantly forwarding these things and like you know, I mean, not our mom. Not our mama. No, she forwards it among her own. She'll never send it to us because she knows she'll get lectured for it. Because we have told her that if you find something on the internet, let it just be there. Don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

Yeah, dad. I like dad's good morning messages. Oh my god, there's a friend of my kid. Yeah, but then he sends these huge don't read. And then he'll ask me, he'll be like, Did you read it? And I'll say, No, I didn't. You will know the day has begun because you will get a Exactly. You are right, you are right. Yeah. Because he his good morning message will be as soon as he wakes up, which is like scary. Exactly. Because I can never be going. I don't want to tell anyone good morning. No, I'll not look at my phone. I look at my phone and I'll be like, okay, this is the time I switch off my alarm. Yeah. I'll see if there's something just in our family group. Otherwise, I do not look at my phone. Yeah, yeah. I need to like literally just wake up on my own time, you know, at my own pace. Water my little plant in my balcony, open my eyes to the sunlight and let nature wake me up and not notifications. And I can't like run around, run down immediately as soon as I wake up. I need to like You literally came without brushing. Yeah, that I can. That I can.

unknown 9:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

Are you sleepy? Do you have coffee? Okay. But then, like, we are not talking about just that. We're talking about the phone addiction of staying on Instagram or on YouTube or on Facebook, the chronically online people.

SPEAKER_03 9:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

You know, like how they cannot get off it, the doom scroll.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

I don't think people do that though. I feel like people do that because they just maybe don't want to be bored, you know. The second they have nothing to do, it's like, okay, let me not put my mind to use. Let me be, let me consume something else. Of course.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

It's like, I don't think it's like uh so the other day when I was like, you know, uh, my hand like a reflex went to Instagram. Like, you know. Yeah. And I'm not the person who's on Instagram at all. Don't say, mmm. No, it's not that. It just so happened one of those days where I was just like, you know, trying to be on Instagram or whatever. I mean, like trying to go open Instagram as soon as I woke up, not some anything where I live on Instagram or anything. But then, like, I feel that causes like a burnout, like a burnout. And among teenagers and young people, I feel there's this whole thing of comparison also that happens and online bullying and stuff like that. Yeah. Not just that, even with growth or anything like that, nothing you see on Instagram or anywhere is real anymore. Yeah, you know, that is oh my god, did you know the other day what happened was I so in our house when they iron clothes, they put newspaper and iron it, no? So I was taking it out and I saw up. Yeah, I am reading from Ayan Tuni, and it's like pretty amazing. There's an AI influencer who mints more money on Instagram. Like an AI influencer. There are two AI influencers. Did you know that? No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Even I didn't. I was like, no way that just happened. That is news to me, but I'm not surprised at all, you know, at the rate at which we all are going. This is crazy, but I'm not surprised at all, you know, why? Because these days you cannot tell what's real and what's not with the advent of AI and how efficient it's gotten.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

Yeah, I have this friend who's constantly educating me on AI and how there's this boy who talks and suddenly he turns into Trump and suddenly he turns into Priyanka Chopra, and suddenly what is this? My mind is blown this part.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

I saw that. I saw that.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

Yeah. That is so crazy. Yeah, and I think all this constantly, chronically being on Instagram or YouTube or anything.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

I'm sure that's a good form on, like, you know, pressure to create content for the social media is a lot for content creators.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

Yeah, like we should know that too. Like, you know, we're not content creators, but like we put our stuff out first.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

We put our stuff, our content out there.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Yeah, it's like, you know, even when it's not just we just come here and talk about random stuff. We come here and we do do the prep for it and we brainstorm for it. So there is a pressure to be your authentic self too, but like at the same time, you can't just come and faff in front of camera. That's I feel like that's just disrespect to our audience and our listeners. So my latest uh obsession has been these animals that talk. I think I've sent you, but I don't know why you're never seeing my memes. I don't have the time. Okay, Raleigh, important person. She doesn't have the time. These llamas and these chickens that like you know, have this world. Hey Natalie, Natalie, is that you? It's so funny, it's so funny. But they do put out like, like, you know, amazing quality content. What is your obsession though? Like, do you ever like you know, do I don't obsess?

SPEAKER_00 12:54

I I mean now like your thing. I think after I get into bed, I'll get uh I'll just open up these brands and I'll see if I need to buy something, even if I don't have the need for it. Like everything, I'll create a need, yeah. I'll just add things to my cards. Yeah, see, that's a shop. And then I'll be like, oh, okay, this is this is a really cute scot. Oh, this new moisturizer is nice. Maybe our skin needs this. Oh, this lipstick shade is so nice. That's what I do. How do we not know this? So wait, this lip colour, I bought it on Instagram. No way! You creep, get out of here. No, after we finish the episode, but like and then you know what? I'm always falling back. So the other day, you know what I realized? In any room, be it at work, be it at, you know, when I'm catching up with my friends, in any room when it's like a bunch of more than five people, and all of them know a particular topic and they're discussing the topic, there is one idiot who doesn't know what they all are talking about.

SPEAKER_03 13:58

And that idiot is me.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

I don't know half the things that the others are all keeping up with. And I feel like the reason I don't know that is because I'm not spending enough time on the internet like the others are.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

But you just said you'll spend the internet over the past.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

This is in the night, yeah, shopping, right? What's shopping telling me to like spend more money? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, you know, the other day they were talking about something I don't remember what exactly, and I when I was hanging out with my friends, and I felt so lost because I didn't know that, and then I just had to pretend to know that and be smart and smile. Like some information it's not coming to me now. But two days ago, I was at work, right? And I learned from my team about this monkey called Punch. Do you know Punch? I don't know the entire story, but I know that the monkey imprinted with uh it's a six-month-old monkey in Japan. Okay, he lives in this monkey community, okay, but every all the other monkeys are mean to him, right? They all are like fighting with him and like they're aggressive and they're violent with this little monkey punch, and punch is so cute. It's so cute. So they gave Punch this little monkey stuffed toy, and this monkey stuffed toy is Punch's best friend. I don't know why. So punch is all yeah, I almost cried at work when I heard this story. So Punch is forever hugging this stuffed toy and like dragging him everywhere. And in fact, so I got to know about because Dinesha changed his DP to punch, like a monkey and a stuffed toy. And I'm thinking, what trip is Danesh? And why is he like keeping some monkey and a toy? You know? And then the next day they're like, oh no, because of punch and stuff. And now the whole world loves punch, and everyone's like, punch, we love you, punch, we are standing with you. Yes, the money will exactly. Read those comments. Punch is seeing your punch is go, punch is gonna feel so.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Punch, we are with you. Okay, that's why people are. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

So maybe if you're not enough on the internet, you get like you fall back, you'll get FOMO. I don't get FOMO, but I'm definitely falling back. Yeah. You think that is why like we're also, apart from the ones who use it for like keeping up with life or work or stuff, there are people who can do far better things with the time on their hands. But then we still choose internet because it's easy to like spend time looking at other people.

SPEAKER_01 16:13

Because it's a world at your fingertips. You get to know uh everything, like you know, you see everything, and like for that time that you spend on the internet, like I know some people who just doom scroll on internet, like on the reels, just go, go, go, go, go, and like 30 minutes later they have a new personality.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

But I have to accept. I have also had a a night or two of those where I'd be like, what's happening?

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Yeah, so it generally gives me anxiety. I don't like looking at other people's lives so much. Not right, reels. I know reels only, like you know, like 10 reels, and I feel overstimulated by it. Like, you know. For sure, yeah. But there was a time when I used to enjoy it where I just come back and lie down in bed, and I'd be like, but for me, it is very Pinterest because I'm constantly looking at photographs and stuff too. Remember, there was a phase when I used to do sketches and it used to be Pinterest a lot, but then it is a real thing, like you know, yeah, all that scrolling and comparing, and sometimes cruelty is out there on the internet, like on Instagram or whatever, when young kids have access, so the whole thing called social media, so that's the thing, right? We're all so careful about parenting. Back in the days, like you know, our friend's mom could parent us, but today we can't even say anything to the other child. Obviously, nobody's trying to be mean to any child, but just generally and saying we cannot, like, but today we let them we're so careful about how we raise our kids and protecting them and through everything, but then we let them be on the internet and we don't even and they don't even know what they are dealing with.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Yeah, that is true.

SPEAKER_01 17:47

It's an ocean of stuff that they are just dealing with, and they're that they are just in it, and even before they could fully develop an emotional quotient or anything like that, they are out there fending for themselves with bullying or anything like that.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

That's why these apps all have like a minimum age, but of course they lie about the age.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Yeah, exactly. But then imagine if I feel uh overstimulated looking at uh more than 10 reels at one go. Imagine what a youngster's mind would feel like. It's insane.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

For sure, there are now YouTube shots too, which is like saving the case. It's not, it's definitely it's not saving anybody's case. Definitely not the parents or the elders at home.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

I feel like uh a really good book recommendation that I'd want to say here is I definitely want our listeners, or this is something I've said to every other parent that I've met or like you know, made friends with. Uh, there's this book called The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Hayde. It's a phenomenal book explaining, yeah, like explaining the entire online culture and how you should take on with it and what it can do to you. So I think, yeah, someone, I mean, if you guys are book readers and really want to get because I've recommended it to four or five parents where I was and they all read that book and came back and they were like, wow, this is an amazing book. Because that book opened my eye regarding online behavior and all of that. So we've spoken so much about being online. Yeah, I feel being offline is also a privilege.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

It is a privilege, and I feel like this digital saturation, it's so funny. Back in the day, I think we all were running towards being online, and being online was cool. Even after school, we come get online. Yeah, but now we all are retreating from it. Yeah, we're having a digital retreat, and I think it's because of the digital saturation. We've had so much of it that they're now sick of it and we want to get away from it. We want to live life analog. You know, have you heard of this term analogue? There's just so there is something called living analog, which is living off the grid.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Doing someone who never uses the internet, you know so many things about the internet. So when someone who never uses Instagram, you know so much about Instagram and stuff. What is living analog?

SPEAKER_00 20:00

Living analog is literally living off the grid. Yeah, okay. What do you mean by living off the grid? Like not living on the internet always, not using your phone to take pictures, using your DSLR camera or uh reading a book, not reading your Kindle and not posting. Yeah, exactly, not posting. That is living analog. Okay, analog Yeah, like experiencing life and nothing.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

So something that our parents did before.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

We are coining a term and putting it out there and starting to do it. Not just coining a term, right? They've made it so legal. Like Cosmopolitan had this article about this analog bag. Okay, and you know what you use the analog bag for? What? To put in things which are not digital, to put in a book, to put in your glasses, not your phone, not your Kindle, not your iPad, none of that, not your earpods. But it's the analog bag where real things go, not things that try you know, transport you to a different place or time in any way.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

I am sure someone took a picture of it in their analog bag and posted it on their Instagram. Hundred percent I'm sure they would have. There is someone who's done.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

100% that's the whole paradox. Yeah, that's the whole paradox of life, right? Yeah, yeah. And Telegraph also like posted up uh like they had this article about the analog man and what this man who wants to live analog would do. Right? Activities that he do. Like pick a hobby. Yeah, like pick a hobby. Read a book, read a book, touch touch grass, babe.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

I'm judging you. Touchgrass, babe, is a very, very common term. It literally means touch grass, babe. Go and touch some grass, get some vitamin D. That's what it means. What do you mean? I should have judged you for this whole analog thing. Oh, I'm too busy for the internet. Oh, I'm too busy like the internet.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

So that's how I stumbled upon this. Like that.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

I thought it was just like, you know, worldly. Worldly, you know. But yeah, but then it's like I I feel with this whole living life in online is creating uh there's no attention span, I feel. And somebody, especially a bunch of people, a generation of people that I know cannot hold a conversation anymore. Yeah, for sure. Because they feel it's like exiting a chat group, yeah, or like leaving a comment and then like not taking accountability for it. Maybe that's why analogue makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

Yeah, analogue has become a little trendy. Man, why did you judge me for touch grass, babe, and you said it in unison with me? Yeah, because I've heard you say it. No, when we're talking about this, you you educated me about it, and I was like, what is this? I'm not gonna lie, the phrase is definitely catchy and it makes me feel like I want to keep saying it, touch grass, babe, touch grass, babe. But then when you say touch grass, babe, it just sounds like, what is that?

SPEAKER_01 22:57

I mean, it's like it's it's nothing.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

It is go touch grass. I know. Yeah. What was your most online moment? I know you'll be like, okay, what the hell is wrong with you?

SPEAKER_01 23:07

I will not think that because strangely, you're such a weirdo who gets invested in these celebrity uh matching up. No, please. The last time Ranveer and Deepika got married and then they got pregnant.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

You felt like you, I don't think you were this excited even when I got married. Like you were like, oh my god, Deepika and Virgini, oh my god. And oh my god, Deepika is pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

The most beautiful man and the most beautiful woman have come together and they got married. And like, just imagine the both of them, they look so good, and I'm like, wow, they're getting married. Bible in West. Okay, I like the both of them. Vijay Dev Kundana and Rashwika. Yeah, so Vijay Devakuna and Rashwika. So I knew that something was up, like they've been together or whatever, but they never really admitted their relationship publicly. See, I'm giving you all the things.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

I know, I'm not even gonna judgment in my face, the fact that you know so much about their relationship.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

This is my viral online moment. Okay. Alright, I think it I think it's a good idea. Yeah, it's your viral online moment, it's supposed to make you like you know, barf a little in your mouth. I am barfing in my mouth. But I got so disgusted with myself on the internet, and I told myself, never again, until you get married, never again get invested in someone else.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

It's only until somebody else, another one person that usually like gets married, this charade will be up.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

And then it'll just go ahead and do what you were thinking of the someone else. But no. Okay, what's your viral online moment?

SPEAKER_01 24:40

Uh, like I told you, I'm obsessing about these animals having voiceovers. Yeah. And and then there was this one chicken that says, uh, Linda, don't be crazy. I tell myself, Linda, every day I wake up, Linda, don't be crazy. But then I am not Linda.

SPEAKER_02 25:01

So choo choo. I got on that crazy train. It's a chicken. It's oh my god, it's like the cutest thing ever. And these llama, you know, llama farm that comes running towards the llama farm owner, and the llama says, Hey Natalie, hey Natalie, is how you hey girl, you look so good, and it's like the funniest thing ever.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Like I saw so many of them. My algorithm is messed up right now.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

I bet you are messed up. It is like it's the cute. Your online moment is better than mine. Yours is cute, okay? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

Right, like no, but then again, Dave, like your algorithm and mine are entirely different.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

I do not have anything pan-Indian or anything happening on my algorithm. Even I don't have pan-Indian. It depends on what you look at. You are an Indian, so are you like shaming other Indians if they come in and it's not like that?

SPEAKER_01 25:54

I don't want to know what anybody here is doing. I just don't want to know the things I look at is art, the animals talking, museums, then there's athlete and stuff like that. And there used to be, I think.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

I like to look at trash sometimes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

Did you just say athletes are like, no, cancel them? I didn't say cancel for saying that. Did you just say what? For athletes. No, she just said I like to look at trash sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Yeah, mindless stuff on the internet. I like to look at that.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Like that, like that, like that. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes I was like, Where did she get the adosity to be the open? But okay, no.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

But it's so sad, you know. I remember there was a time before reels could come, it was just photos, and Instagram was for art. And people used to, even me for that matter, you know, I used to take pictures, even a flower. I used to find that they look beautiful, and I used to like not that was just like chumma.

SPEAKER_01 26:49

But then you never let me pray in peace because we'll have these beautiful flowers from our garden, and you'll take a picture of them, you'll romanticize it, you'll write in a little poem about it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

Back then these platforms were for creating art. But now it's just become for creating content. But then, but then don't let that fool you. We are making content and you have to watch it. Don't let us let this topic fool you. No, but then, Dave, I'll tell you what You have to live online a little bit for us.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Okay. But yeah, so I think now I lost my train of thought. You just interrupt like me. I had a gem. Me taking pictures today, but I had a gem to share, but then now I've forgotten it. Like I don't remember what it is. But yeah. Yeah. No, I think my most online moment is like when I wake up and I have like a really intense training session, like a running session, I'll obsessively watch these athletes run like just before I hit the bed. And as soon as I wake up, but I don't think I I regret doing it. It's amazing to see them all run, and then I'll go and crush it in the gym and come. So I think that that's something. But for me, animals right now, they're really cute. I'm gonna send you Linda. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

I have seen Linda, I think. Choo choo. Yeah, I have seen Linda for sure.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

But then I've got Linda Choo Choo.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Yeah, I have definitely seen Linda. Yeah, so that's Linda seems familiar. I think I love it.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

But there are like different kinds of people who are online, right? There's the doom scroll scroller. We know so many people like that. Like I have a really close friend. He will just sit and scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll. He's a little real scooty, he is. He'll say, scroll his life away. Like the marathon. Yeah, so much so he had to delete Instagram on his phone.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

No way.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Yeah way. Okay, you ask him next time.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:49

Like, yeah, we like, but then that he's unstoppable. He's unstoppable. So his work is on the laptop. Who is it? I don't know. Like he's on the laptop all the time, and then like, you know what? No, he deleted it on Insta. He'll delete it on the internet.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

I thought you were describing the person. Like, no, he deleted.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

Ah man. Okay, that's it. I have a friend who's a doom scroller. That's ended. And then then there is like, what do you know? What do you know about the people who spend on the internet?

SPEAKER_00 29:13

The one time that I'm interrupting you. One time. Anyway, okay, so internet people, doom scrollers there. And then we have like, I know somebody who'll find out the whole thing, who'll find out who you were seven births before if they have the internet. The FBI agent. Do you know that? Does that ring a bell? Must be a really amazing person. Yeah, because they'll find out what you were doing like seven lives ago. If you are a cat, if this is your eighth life, that's you. But tell me, I'm playing it to your advantage on no 100%. Everybody, everybody has benefited from it. I think every gang has that FBI agent. Somebody, somebody will say, Hey, you know what? You can't, I don't even know who this person is. You can't find anything about that person. How will I even like you know know anything about them? And then the next day, Anisha will come back with their bank statement, their ex's name, ex's father's name, current job, previous job, salary, what t-shirt they wore yesterday, what they had for breakfast this morning, everything. Resourceful person.

unknown 30:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

I'm a very resourceful person. And I'm the least connected social person. Did that ever occur to you? Like it takes skills to find out things what you did seven lives ago.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Yeah, no, only you can. Only you can. Only you can. It is a true talent, in fact. It is a true talent.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

But then But I feel so bad.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

It's been a while since I put my. Because nobody's giving you such challenges. Yeah. So if anybody in this room wants to know anything about anyone at all.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

Not like in a creepy way, like a spy way and all, like, hey, yeah, if there are single boys and girls in our room in our team, and you like like someone crush Gen Z. If you're crushing on someone, let me know. Or if like you forgot his name been time. Oh, I know his name, but sure. Yeah. So yeah. So you want to find out about somebody.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

Gen Z is taking you up on that deal. She has someone in mind.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

100%. And you see them somewhere, and then I might like. Yeah. Might. I don't know. I can't promise because I've been out of job for a long time.

SPEAKER_00 31:19

And you're rusty. But stop.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

But then it's so weird. I became an adult reveal. This was back in 2016. Do you remember the vacation we were in Paris?

SPEAKER_02 31:30

You, me, and now I'm like, I just no way I can forget. Like, that's exactly when my skills were put to full use, and it was in an entirely different country.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

So thankful to you.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

You're welcome. What a girlfriend's from. But every gang has an FBI agent.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

Like, you know. And then who else is there? The productivity angel? Like people will say, my morning routine. I woke up at 3 o'clock and then at 3.5 I made my bed. And then at 3.30 I meditated. And then at 3.35 I put on my face mask. At 3.45. I know, no, no. This thing was.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

What is that? ASMR? Like, you know, a pet.

SPEAKER_00 32:13

Like that. Get ready with me. How to live my fertilessly shit. This is the new this is a new dressing, uh, what is it? Hack, right? Wearing clothes that you already have. I don't understand. Somebody made this deal. Just today I saw this, like this part in a she was like, new uh, new wardrobe hack. You look best in the clothes that you already own. Yes. How else am I gonna get dressed? How am I gonna get dressed? I can get dressed only with the clothes I already own. Yeah. But like people are making everything, they're making content out of everything they do. But I also feel like in there's like drinking watching.

SPEAKER_01 32:49

They hydrate baby. I think there's definitely like, you know, there are these people who get an entirely new personality after the 400th reel. They change their life, they're like, you know, cut off sugar and like you know, all those kind of things. But I do have these friends, like two amazing friends. One of them is still like, you know, uh, he's fallen off the band mag in the other one. Offline flexors, not offline flexors, like the ones who's made meme, like dad, mom, meet the girl. I send memes to. Like that's a solid friendship, like you know, that's but all said done. Uh, I mean, I feel the whole point of it is it does like rob a lot of things. I think rob attention span, I think rob being present, like time, and it really like kind of robs your creativity because there is nothing that original that comes. Like, I'd be really glad when there is like something original that comes, but we're always trying to recreate somebody else's content, and like, yeah, I'm very appreciative for it. It is entertainment when you just want to take a break for like five or ten minutes, it's fun, no doubts about it, but it does have its own added value. There it is access, information access easily on your fingertips, be it anything, be it anything, like you have like access to everything and anything, but how far is it credible? Is what we need to look into. Yeah, right. Not everybody on the internet can give you an advice about how you can run a 5k in uh 30 minutes because that builds up. We just see them running, but they are hustling all the that is the whole culture of getting carried away by the internet, which we all need to overlook, I feel.

SPEAKER_00 34:28

100%. I feel like it's all about the balance. See, back then we were so in love with the internet, now we kind of like detest it and we're getting disgusted with it. So why can't we just find the balance? Why can't we be like, okay, you know what? I do like the internet for whatever reason it serves up to like a certain extent, yeah, and then I'm still going to find time to live my life so that I don't need to touch grass to deal with you know grass, the internet, right? Because I think to not deal with the internet, yeah, but it should be because you want to touch exactly like you should live intentionally, even if you're on the internet. Like, what are you on the internet?

SPEAKER_01 35:05

Yeah, like I think the smallest of routines that can help our listeners who suffer from like doom scrolling or anything, because no matter what you put a time uh what is it called? A time uh whatever lock or time limit, time limit time limit on it. Most of the people are overriding it. Screen time limit. I don't know, whatever it is. Like, you know, I have a f I had a friend who puts uh time limit on her uh Instagram and then she anyway overrides it and sees it, right? Like and she's so proud of her devo.

SPEAKER_00 35:36

Yeah, she's like samules notification. Notification is coming. She's a samakor, like cancelling it and then like still scrolling.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Yeah, she taught me the word samakoran.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

Like, why do you have a little bit of a little bit of a little korean?

SPEAKER_01 35:51

I know that I'm going overboard. Great, great div, good job, right? But then uh yeah, like she uh yeah, she does that. But then I think a conscious way to help people or like how we helped ourselves is first end the churn at 10 minutes, let's not touch our phones, right? Like, let's like get ahead of our day. Like for me, it's half hour. I do open WhatsApp and I do like reply send messages out to all the doctors, but I never open the internet or I never open Instagram or I never even open YouTube or anything to see how well if one of our episodes is doing, and before going to bed, there is a time limit after which I do not use my uh phone, but sometimes it's very hard. But definitely, morning is a non-negotiable. That's one way. What do you think can be like?

SPEAKER_00 36:40

Do you have something to contribute to people who can like whenever you're bored, like really find something in the real world? You know, carry a music by carry a book, have a conversation. We know what this influ like I know Vijay Deva Kunda and Rajmika are getting married, but do I know my neighbor's name? Like, I know what the influencer that I'm following from Germany had for dinner. But why did she have dinner? I don't know, was it good looking? Was it looking good? Not very appetizing. It's Germany. So like no, but the point that I'm trying to make here is that we know we are so connected, right? With so many people because of the internet, through the internet, but do we really have intimacy with them? Yeah, we do feel that connection with them. Yeah, we feel the connection with people in our real life. That's why we are having this exactly how to help people in truth. Yeah, that's such a sad truth. So, how we're going to like break that is like, yeah, do things in real life. First half hour.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

Yeah, no, first half hour as soon as you wake up. Let's do like a rapid fire. Yeah, I do have like a rapid fire thing though. First half hour, no, no phone. First half hour after you wake up.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

That includes in your that includes your personal time, your brushing time, your whatever.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

Last half hour, no phone. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

Okay. Today I'm gonna try it. Okay, I'm not gonna get into bed and like you know.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

Last half hour, no phone, no screens.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

Okay, yeah, makes sense. Yeah. Remember, I actually used to read a book. But now, like that after the kids sleep is the only time I can read my articles and stuff like that and keep up with like the world. I used to be this person who reads newspaper, but now for some I mean, let's not even get there, it's too exhausting. But okay, uh, what else? Carry a book.

SPEAKER_00 38:29

Carry a book, talk to people, be bored, like daydream. I love daydreaming, I miss daydreaming. Visualization, it's called Yeah, but like do it. Yeah, yeah. Just like, you know, just looking at the clouds pass by, looking at the sky and wondering where the birds are flying. Just like looking outside the window. Birds do fly. I know, but then like just being bored, be bored, because I feel like a lot of creativity is created out of boredom.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

100%, yeah. It is, it is, it definitely is. I think these are things that we can actually uh adapt and follow and like you know, not like to lose ourselves into this world of Instagram or uh YouTube or whatever your voices are, online vices are. We have dealt with it too. We did have a phase, but we wish we were bored right now. But then, like, it does happen to us where we do the doom scrolling, but there is times when I just want to lie down on the couch and say, Oh my god, I'm gonna spend half hour on Instagram.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

I need that half an hour.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

I need that half an hour, and I absolutely feel like crap after that half an hour because I I know after half an hour I'm just chucking my phone there because it happened to me recently, because I'm not one of those people. But for me, it's like I do not have notifications for any of the people I follow. I always, if I want to know what my friend is doing, I open her profile and suddenly they'll get this sudden stalking thing. But but but but I never had like Instagram for a really long time, like till like you know, 2023, I think. Only after then, I kind of like had Instagram. Dave, you can sell whatever story you want. Like, that's the truth. I opened an account in early 2023. So that is true, you opened an account in 2023. Yeah, and I'm not one of those people who got sucked into Ludo Crazy also during the.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

Of course, I got sucked into Ludo Crazy. You know how fun it was, Jenko? Yeah, so I'm not really the best person to say how the noise of the dice rolling in ludo, no, it's like crazy.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

Yeah. So I'm not one of those people who stay on the internet. So I'm not probably the best person to advise, but there are hacks like you stay stay off it as soon as you wake up, you try not to give in, you try not to believe everything on the internet, you know, like on Instagram.

SPEAKER_00 40:46

Because it's really no C and you hear.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

Yeah, because it's really not that way it is. So yeah. On to your rapid fire round, Rave, you're annoying me.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

What is it? Okay, so we're gonna do like rituals, okay? Offline rituals or online rituals. What now? Okay, offline or online? You gotta pick one.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

Offline, 100% offline.

SPEAKER_00 41:09

Photos of food?

SPEAKER_01 41:12

Yeah, okay. Actually, I'm one of those people who, when I'm on diet, uh like to look at photos of food or like watch a Master Chef episode because it's like my way of vicariously living. Living, yeah. That's like online crime. No, I like it. I like it. I don't want to scrutinize it. So people post pictures of your food. I want to see them. Like, I really want to see them and salivate. Voice notes over texting. 100% offline. I am a voice note person, I'm always sending voice notes. I send voice notes to our team. I annoy them like that. Yeah. Like I get attacked by I felt attacked by one of those uh content creators who say girls be sending voice notes. Like, and you start hearing it in the morning and you'll be here.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

I'm one of them. Watching sunsets through phones. Crime. Jail time. Jail time. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

Let me ask you taking pictures and not posting them. Of course, I do it all the time. I'm always taking pictures, yeah. But I don't have Instagram, I have Letagram. Because I see that was my that was gonna be my second question.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Taking pictures and posting them later.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

I try to seek you, but then like you know, but yeah, taking pictures and posting later is literally being rich in every way because you know, why do we need to have the pressure to like tell people what we're doing exactly now? Yeah, you don't have to, you gotta live for yourself.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

Yeah. So today in today's takeaway for our listeners and our audience, for anybody who's seeing this for the past how many ever minutes, I think we resonated with you more than anything, but also the fact that internet or staying online also has its advantage, but use it within well within your limit where you don't overwhelm yourself and you don't overstimulate yourself. Just like how when our stylist told us that she's gonna pick up clothes from studio 149.

SPEAKER_00 43:02

We have these we've been styled beautifully today. Okay, so uh yeah, as we wrap up this episode, I can't um, you know, I um I have to tell our audience about these beautiful fits we're wearing today. Uh-huh. Uh clothes have been sourced by Pavitra, our trustyling and from studio one for nine, they have a new pret collection. Yeah. And our beautiful jewelry is from the Belize shop. Yeah. And I really think I might keep this bracelet and not give it back.

SPEAKER_01 43:31

I have one like that, I think. I don't know. Someone gifted it to me. It's really pretty. But then, like, yeah, that's the thing. So once when uh Pavitra Kaya came and told us that uh studio 149 is going to do our clothes, or like you know, any store is gonna do our clothes. I immediately open Instagram and check out what they do. Like, that's its way that in the internet has its own way of uh like you know, having its own advantage. You like um take it in your Own stride, yeah. Like you, like I said, there is uh like in our previous episode, we did talk about digital awareness where there are so many people who are like you know using the internet to educate women on birthing or on hormones or on things that we which were considered taboo before, but then you have like so many influencers teaching them about personal hygiene and sexual hygiene and all of those things. It's spoken out so loudly on Instagram and on the internet.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

We're definitely learning a lot on the internet.

SPEAKER_01 44:29

Yeah, and there are people who educate you on how to spend your money. Oh my god, we should get one of them to come on a podcast because I have no education on money, and I would really love to have somebody who would come and tell me where to invest my money and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

Sorry, you know what? I I totally missed talking about this one particular person under the segment. Oh, the the offline flexor, I brought that up, but we didn't really speak about it. The offline flexor who says I'm gonna take a digital detail.

SPEAKER_01 44:55

Oh my god, remember we actually had a friend who will be like, Oh guys, you know what? I'm gonna deactivate my account and that night, bam, he'll be back on Instagram. Sorry, I'm taking a break from Instagram. That's the most online thing. That's the most online thing someone has ever said. Like, you know, if you're announcing it, you're never gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

That is true.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

Like I said, like, you know, being hyper online, someone who has listened to this episode should definitely pick up the book. Apart from all the faffing and the jolly chatting and like how we've laughed, and like it's always like a conversation. People who have been our regulars have subscribers. If you are not, subscribe already.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

I've always told it's always like the channel, follow us on Instagram because yeah, otherwise, you're going to be missing out on all these life-changing reads. Yeah, okay, yes.

SPEAKER_01 45:40

And as like, you know, all of them have always told it feels like chilling with two friends. But apart from that, if you really want to like, you know, educate yourself a little bit about how I got my kids off screen time or how I cut down screen time. And even I never used to have screen time before, like, but even then to like consciously make that cutting down for the kids also happen because of this book called Anxious Generation. I think someone should definitely, if you really if this episode resonated with you, you should definitely like pick it up, give it a read. You will not regret it.

SPEAKER_00 46:16

And uh and tell us how you liked it before we come back for the next episode.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

Yeah, please write to us. We would like some engagement apart from us asking you guys questions.

SPEAKER_00 46:24

So it's been you can just talk to us by yourself on a random day. Yeah, for sure. For sure. And tell us your thoughts and ideas.

SPEAKER_01 46:32

Yeah, so if you are here, uh thank you for being here with us for the first time. If you are here because you keep up with us, we're so grateful for this love. We are so deeply appreciative of the support and your feedback and all of it. I hope this episode resonated with all of you.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

And I hope that you remember that um, you know, being offline is not about disappearing, it's more like it's more of a returning, returning to yourself, returning to your life, and returning to what really matters. And more than anything, I think the real magic is when you balance both beautifully.

SPEAKER_01 47:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:07

So that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

That's what the magic is. Because nobody wants to leave, nobody has to completely ignore it, yeah, and nobody has to be fully present in it. The beauty is in the grey.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

Yeah, beauty is in the green. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:21

Yes, okay. Sana, what did you tell? Unour one nan Okay. Okay, same if this episode resonated. If this episode really resonated with you, like we're really glad it did. And if you feel like if you have somebody who needs to listen to it and someone will benefit from it, please share it. Share this episode.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

Subscribe to our channel, follow us on Instagram, and remember that you know, being offline is not really about disappearing, it's more uh like it's it's it's a sort of returning, returning to yourself, returning to your life, and returning to what truly matters to your present and to what truly matters. And it's never about being completely offline or completely online. I think the magic is in the balance, right? So find your balance because that's really all that matters.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

Yeah, because being online also has its own perks, like we just said before not only living there because we don't do BRB anymore because we're living there. Yeah, let's not live there. Yeah. All right, and this was two piece in a pod.

SPEAKER_00 48:26

Thank you so much for tuning in.

SPEAKER_01 48:27

Staying offline in a hyper online world world.