E72 Honi & Michael: A Mother's Day Tribute — 10 Deep Questions, Raw Answers & A Blessing For Every Mother

This episode is for every mother as a Mother's Day tribute. Including the ones nobody celebrated today.

In this tender and honest episode, Rev. HoniB & Michael Abramson sit down together for one of their most personal conversations yet — a Motherhood that goes far beyond the hallmark holiday. Michael comes with ten deep, unscripted questions about mothers, motherhood and the love that shapes everything. What follows is raw, real and genuinely moving.

In this episode:

• Ten deep questions about mothers — answered honestly by both Rev. HoniB and Michael
• What Michael wishes he had done differently with his mother — and the gratitude he would have expressed earlier
• Rev. HoniB's honest share about her anger toward her mother in her 20s — and what healing that actually required
• What Michael wishes his mother truly knew about how far he intends to go
• What Rev. HoniB wishes her mother truly knew about her NDE — and why her mother still cannot hear it
• One sentence each would say to their mother today — and why both answers will move you
• How Michael initially saw Rev. HoniB only as his wife — not as a mother — and what changed
• The mother wound in men — and how unhealed patterns from childhood show up in relationship
• Whether the unconditional love a mother has for her child can be extended to the world — and what Rev. HoniB truly believes about that
• Why a mother's love is the closest human expression of Christ love on earth
• A heartfelt blessing from Rev. HoniB & Michael over every mother listening — especially those who have never been truly celebrated
• Michael's special Mother's Day pop-up golden healing session — Saturday May 9th in person in the DMV area

🌹 To every mother listening — God Almighty sees you. You are treasured. You are celebrated. Today and every day.

Transcript

Mother’s Day Dedication And Blessing

SPEAKER_04 0:02

Blessings and welcome to the Ascension Alchemist Podcast. Your host, Honey Boden, and Michael Abramson. We are delighted to be here with you in this wonderful community of those who are choosing to embody the amazing eternal light and be of purpose. Be on mission and deliver this beautiful divine design of life. So we are coming to you with this very special episode because we are just about to have Mother's Day this weekend coming up. So I was sharing with Michael. Let's really dedicate this to Mother's Day and the celebration of mothers. So today we are going to go a little bit deep into Mother, the blessings of mothers, and we wrote down a few questions. Actually, I wrote the questions. Michael doesn't know it. And we're both gonna answer these questions. And this is gonna be dedicated to our mothers. And you certainly can use these questions and ask your mother about them. Michael doesn't know these yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

And we would also like to celebrate all of the mothers that are listening, all those that we know that have taken this special journey to be a mother because it is a sacred journey. And of course, all those that have mothers, I feel like that's another specialty because you know the mothers are there to be special. But then the ones that are not, let's just say mothers, we can even give greater element to supporting the mom because it's a great day of what I say, giving that fullest respect and honor of the creator that brought us all in here. So for all those that are listening, thank you for joining once again from all over the world. And today we are honoring the day in celebration of the mother.

SPEAKER_04 1:57

Yes, happy mother's day, happy mother's day, happy mother's day to our grandmothers, to great-grandmothers, and great-great-great-grandmothers, if they are here. Also the mothers in spirit side, grandmothers in spirit side. And I also like to address those beautiful mothers who their children may be in spirit side, and those who maybe were pregnant and they didn't get to fully experience the fullness. You're all blessed with that beautiful essence of mother. So God bless you, and mothers who are mothers to pets, you are included in this indeed. So this whole celebration is gonna be about you. And I like to start it off with uh Michael because I'm a mother and I'm blessed to have a mother and have had an amazing relationship with my grandmother. And I like to just open the space up with what mother, what role mother means to me, and I want you to start it with that, what it means too. So for me, I'm gonna share with the role of mother. When I think of a mother, for me, a mother is the ultimate love is for me is the essence of a mother. The love that brings tears to me. I can't believe I'm like already gonna be tearing about this. The level of love that a woman can expand into to and it's not even choosing to allow herself to experience something beyond herself to come out of her. That is the role of a mother, and it's it is extraordinarily amazing to be in the presence of that, to be in the experience of that, to have gotten a taste of it, you know, and to have just experienced it in life being being on the receiving end and being on the on the giving part of it. So that's what that's what being a mother means to me. What about you?

SPEAKER_00 4:35

So because I have a great, very close relationship with my mother, when I look at a mother, I really feel the nourishment and the restoration and just the home feeling of just safety and security as a mother that has once brought all of us up, and how that sacred role has been departed since we were born in the fetus, like being in a sense of home and and this feeling of just being really taken care of and nourished from a love that's so deep that really can't be compared to anything else because that mother's love is I feel innate inward because of the connection of the first essence of life and then what she has given in every single moment of unconditional love. And so when I think of a mother, I think of an unconditional love that has demonstrated what it is, especially to us men that may not ever understand what it is to conceive birth or even to have that relationship with a child from a very paternal aspect because it's so deep. And me having that sacred relationship with my mother, I feel it's really given this deeper understanding of what unconditional love is and really how to embrace that not only from receiving that, but also that art of being that within every relationship.

What We Inherit From Grandmothers

SPEAKER_04 6:39

Thank you. And curious for you all, as you're listening, what what what the role of mother means to you, because each of us are gonna have our own unique, incredible experience of it. And I feel so joyous on the inside that we're dedicating this podcast to mothers, it's just so beautiful. So let's go ahead and just start with questions so we roll because it's gonna be really fun. So, Mark, I'm gonna ask the first question and we're both gonna answer it, and you all get to answer it too. So, my first question is what has been passed down to you from your mother's mom, Michael. One thing, just one thing that has been passed down from your mother's mom to you. You you know for sure.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

One thing that has been passed down from my mother's mom to me, I would definitely feel my grandmother showed a very deep sense of cleanliness, meaning like she loved to have things clean. And so when I recognized as a child and going to my grandmother's house, the first thing we would do would be literally, you know, cleaning the yard. Like when I say cleaning the yard, weeding the yard, cutting the hedges, like she really brought us into this artistic way of looking what needs to be done and showing a very firm way of saying, okay, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna pull all the ivy off the house, we're gonna clip this, we're gonna clear this. And her house was always immaculate, and so I feel like that has been an opportunity for me to really bring that art to me because my dad was the opposite and was not clean organized. So I felt like her quality of cleaning, keeping things organized, everything astute that was passed down. And obviously, I'm still practicing it. That's what I like. I'm like, okay, as a man, because I know there's sometimes I'm unorganized, but that quality of keeping things in very orderly fashion and very clean and astute.

SPEAKER_04 9:05

Perfect. And what about your your dad's mother? What's been passed down from your dad's mother to you?

SPEAKER_00 9:14

From my dad's mother, I would say she always brought forth this importance of family love. I felt like my grandmother, Abramson, she would just always relish when it came to holidays how important it was to bring family together, to celebrate, to really spread that love in family and always remind us that we only have one family, you know, in our genetics. Of course, we have family across the world and our friends, but she really brought forth that level of honoring, supporting, and respecting family because when it we came together, I felt my grandmother really demonstrate that through her joy and happiness.

SPEAKER_04 10:00

That's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:02

So with my from my mother's mom, 100% hands down, passed down is her teas. She loved making all kinds of herbal tea, all kinds of different teas and mixtures with just mixing a lot of things and creating like face masks and stuff like that. Uh 100% that's been passed down to me. And I and I I just really love that. My mom's father, what's been passed on through my mother's side, my grandfather Hajaga, he loved, he loved music and and being in that state of love. Oh my gosh, he always loved being that that state of love and poetry and singing, like being in that, and and that Jewish expression that I remember from my grandfather, that definitely has been passed down to me.

SPEAKER_00 11:04

Beautiful. For sure. I love that. So now I get to read a question for you.

SPEAKER_04 11:08

No, no, we're both answering all the questions.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

Okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 11:11

That's what we're doing.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Okay, so we're gonna continue to do that.

SPEAKER_04 11:15

So, next question, Michael, what has been passed on to you from your mother?

SPEAKER_00 11:20

Okay, and each person listening to this, you can also think about this. What has been passed on to your mother? Because this has been say one thing. One thing that has been passed on by my mother. Hmm. One thing, there's so many. There's so many things.

SPEAKER_04 11:38

But go on with the one that just first comes down to right away. There's no thinking, you know, oh, there's passed down with my mom.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

What I what's been really passed on by my mother is this uh beauty of presentation. I feel like, you know, my mom, when I was younger growing up, she always loved to either take me shopping, place things on me, and just to present yourself in a very in a very wonderful way. And so I feel like my mom growing up, it was great to see her in the excitement of what it was. So presentation I felt was very important, looking good, you know, whether it was, you know, keeping your hair, aesthetics, being clean, healthy, and that outer appearance, as well as inner appearance, but just her way of just having your presentation look beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 12:32

I love that.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

Yeah, as you can tell, my mom loves to do her nails, loves to do her, she loves to do all these things. So I feel like that presentation.

SPEAKER_04 12:41

So but in my with my mom.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Can I ask you that question? Yeah. So what has been passed down to you from your mother?

Strongest Mom Traits We See

SPEAKER_04 12:50

So with my mom, the thing that I would say has passed down the strongest is my mom has been amazing. The second there's an issue or a problem, if if you would go to her, you would call her, she would neutralize that problem so quickly, make it almost no problem. And her she's been known to be Miss No Problem. And I love that because in the middle of challenge, she would just completely settle everything and would bring she would be hope, like a person of hope. So I really adopted that quality in myself because I love that with her. Where something comes up, I'm I find myself very much right away say it's not a problem, it's no big deal, nothing. It's it's okay. So that way it neutralizes things right away, and for sure that's been passed on from my mom to me.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

That's beautiful, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:57

So, next question okay, Michael, what is your mother's strongest attribute?

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Strongest attribute. You know, it's gonna sound funny what I say.

SPEAKER_05 14:09

Just say it. Your mom's gonna listen to it anyway.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

I feel like her strongest attribute is like firefighter. Like when something happens, she shows up like mama lion. Yeah, and mama lion comes in strong. I mean, yeah, we call her a Capricorn, but she sure could be a Taurus, or sure could be like coming in full of strength. And I saw this with my dad's transition. I see this when suns happened, like she comes in so strong. Like, okay, I am ready to fix it, to dive into it, to see what needs to be solved. Like, let's go. She rolls her sleeve up, and she's ready to problem solve before even the solution has been marked. And I feel that has been brought upon me when it comes down to any emergency, any situation, I show up like a freaking, you know, like a drag. Like I show up ready to like do whatever I can to help in my greatest service from my heart. And so my mom, like, you know, call it a fire lady. I love it. And so when you look at your mom, what is the strongest attribute from your mom?

SPEAKER_04 15:24

I would say my mother's most incredible attribute, which I actually wrote in the newsletter that you're gonna you're gonna receive as you listen to this podcast of newsletters also receive my gosh, her incredible capability to go through a situation where where it takes mad courage, mad strength, and such as being able to making a choice to bring us to America in the middle of war and what length she went through to leave her family behind and to just come with no money. I mean, my gosh, like what a courage, what what an incredible mother like we're talking about mother lion, it's it's incredible. Forever I'm grateful to being having been having been able to witness that.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

Yeah, that's very powerful. So powerful.

SPEAKER_04 16:42

Aren't these questions so good? Yeah, okay, Michael, here's the one. What is the one of what is one of the funniest memory with your mom?

SPEAKER_00 16:53

What is one of the one?

SPEAKER_04 16:54

Just have one thing.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Okay, the funniest thing with my mom was when we were little, yeah, and we were on a ferry. Yeah, and this bird pooped on her head. I'm like funny because you know how sensitive my mom is with her hair. And so it was a seagull. You know, those seagulls don't poop lately. So we were on one of those car ferries. Yeah. So it's not like a place that you can find a really good bathroom. Yeah. So I just think like, you know, when we all saw it, she's like, she's like, get it out. I she was like kind of hitting that like level of not panic, but you could just see she was going, and I and unfortunately, you know, we were kids, we were laughing, my dad's laughing, but I think she was really upset about, you know, like she was upset. I mean, she literally said the bird shit in my head.

SPEAKER_05 17:44

I've experienced that.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

I think like anytime that happens to a woman's hair, like it's like now I look at it, I I have more compassion empathy, but that had to be one of the funniest because it goes down as one of those memories where yeah, you can never forget that how did this ego actually poop land in my mom's hair. So when it comes to you, what is one of the funniest things that your mom Oh my gosh, there's there's so many.

SPEAKER_04 18:10

I can do a whole show with my mom. Write a whole book on a book on my mom because they kind it continues. I'll I'll tell you, I'll tell you, let's see. One of them I'll tell you is this it was actually when I was the day of getting, I was getting married to Carr, my former spouse. And so we had the Iranian wedding with the ceremony, and the person we had gone to get our hair done first thing in the morning. My mom and my aunt were the matrions. Matrix? No, bridesmaids, matrons, not bridesmaids, but the maid of honor, maid of honor. Two of them I had. There you go. And I don't think you know the story. So we went, we went and had our hair done at like seven in the morning, like get everything fully done, right? So then I'm getting ready for the ceremony. So when mom comes, my mom looks completely different.

SPEAKER_05 19:12

She has some wacky wig on, it's not the hair she did when we were getting a wig.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

But what color was it?

SPEAKER_05 19:20

It was some black, jet black wig when she was wearing a black dress. I I didn't want her to wear a black dress. She like totally didn't listen to anything I had said. But the funniest thing was not only would she wear a wig, she looked like I don't know what she put on, but on top of it, for some reason she decided, I think she had decided to I found out later a couple of a couple of glasses of wine.

SPEAKER_04 19:47

So at this ceremony, she's standing behind me and Carl and like talking, telling as the as the the person who's doing the Iranian wedding ceremony, she keeps telling him she's a little bit tipsy to stop, to stop talking, to stop talking to the man.

SPEAKER_05 20:08

I mean, it was so embarrassing. Stop talking to the man at the man that's trying to marry us.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 20:15

She's drunk, but her wig keeps moving because the aunts are behind us, they're holding the the that cloth over the hair, and it's hitting my mom's wig.

SPEAKER_05 20:26

I mean, it was like a numb, and and the whole night as she's trying to dance, the wig is going all over the place. I mean, this is it was a disaster with this.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

Why did she ask the man to stop talking?

SPEAKER_05 20:37

Because she didn't want to hear the ceremonial words. I mean, you know my mom, you know how it is. Okay, it was, I mean, of course, at that time I didn't think it was funny, but it was so funny because it was such a disaster. She just did everything like on my wedding day, going completely against me. This is her characteristic.

SPEAKER_04 21:03

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 21:04

So that's one of them.

The Hard Seasons Mothers Endure

SPEAKER_04 21:05

Okay, let's go to the other one. Okay, Michael, what has been the hardest thing for you to witness that your mom has gone through?

SPEAKER_00 21:17

That's obvious. I feel the hardest thing that I witness her go through was the transition of my father's death when he had a heart attack, stroke, and she had to caretake him. We tear we both jointly, but she was ground zero in the home of you name a bloodsweat tears of really taking care of a man that was at maybe ten, twenty, thirty percent of capability. We brought him to seventy percent, but then his decline of not being able to talk very clearly, his anger and just that was very difficult.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

That was very difficult.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

Really watching her struggle because she always just wanted him to get back to his, you know, 100% and to see her. Like it was like probably five, ten caretakers into one person that she, out of all of her might, did everything for this man that I tell you probably checked off every mission for this life and her future lives to take care of a man, support a man, help a man that wasn't easy, that wasn't compatible to what he used to be, and to see her struggle through the point of just absolute exhaustion, absolute despair, hopelessness, and just a part of her that I was like, wow, mom, like what you signed up had to be the gold medals of like challenges to unconditionally love a person. So to watch her do that had to be the hardest thing because we never want to witness someone, especially when it's their, you know, your parents, and then them just be so upset to the point that was like she just felt so done. Yeah. Like she was so over it to the point that it really, you know, it she really, I wouldn't say struggle, but it it hit her hard. And I think when you see your mom go through that, it That's so hard. It's it's very hard to watch. When you look at your mom, what's the hardest thing that you've witnessed your mom go through?

Secrets We Never Told Mom

SPEAKER_04 23:28

Well, obviously, is is I was I was young to witness the leaving Iran. I feel like there's three significant one was in that fatal car crash to see my mom in that scene and thinking she was dead because the the the car's wheel was broken in her face and and what had happened to her face, and I was so young. That was one of the hardest things. It took me a long time out of that. And the other one obviously moving out of uh Iran. But but what I would really say in my adult years, what I really saw the hardest thing was these past few years as her husband that she was married to 18 years, kind of differently than your father, but has the dementia. We didn't know what dementia was. We didn't know the paranoia, the delusion that comes with dementia and what what what we went through, but what my mom went through with him to witness that was so hard. Yet I knew she was doing it with all her love, and I was just so frightened, so frightened for her life, because I sh he wasn't, you know, he wasn't that delusion paranoia was so scary. And a lot of you that are listening to you, you you knew I we were having a lot of challenge with family those three years. It was really, really difficult. But to see my mom go through that, that tore me apart so much, kind of like similarly but differently. So that was the hardest thing. And for any of you, if your mothers have experienced that, our heart goes out, our heart just really goes out to your mothers for what they've experienced. It's so, so, so challenging to witness it. Our love to your mothers. Okay, let's go to another question. Okay, Michael, what is a secret you have kept from your mom? One, it can be light. You gotta say it now.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

What is the secret that I kept from my mom?

SPEAKER_04 25:49

She doesn't know it till this says she's about to find out.

SPEAKER_00 25:56

What is a secret that I kept from my mom?

SPEAKER_02 25:59

Or something you never never told.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

I don't think I ever told her that in Mexico I would ride my motorcycle without a helmet. I believe having a motorcycle in general, I didn't tell her for the longest time. Right. And probably there's things that she said, just don't tell me, just don't tell me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:25

So that would be she would freak out.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

And for those that are listening, you know, where I lived in Mexico, the laws were very, very lenient, and where I drove her on back roads, of course, when I went on major highways, I wouldn't have to wear a helmet. I just love the feeling of driving through the jungle with the wind through my hair. But I believe that she doesn't know that you didn't have the helmet. I have a helmet, or that I almost felt like I would I died. I was gonna die in a very huge surfing experience where the waves were so big that I she doesn't need to know that one, Michael.

SPEAKER_05 27:05

Like she's gonna listen to this. Susan Junior, erase that one, erase that, don't listen to that one.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

That was a whole other experience. That's a whole other experience.

SPEAKER_05 27:13

Now she's gonna want to know. Now you're gonna have to tell us.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

When you look at your mother, yeah, what is one thing that you've kept secret from your mom?

SPEAKER_04 27:25

Well, I believe my mom till this day does not know I actually jumped out of the airplane.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 27:31

Yeah, she still doesn't know.

SPEAKER_05 27:32

Yeah, what and I don't believe she can listen to podcasts. She doesn't know how to use that on her phone.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

I'm sure she wouldn't be upset, you know.

SPEAKER_04 27:41

No, because you you don't understand. During that time, my mom, for the longest time after migrating from Iran here, she was petrified of airplane. Her biggest fear, fear, fear, fear was every airplane, everything to do with airplane. And then to actually jump off, like you're crazy.

SPEAKER_05 27:59

I brought you to America to go study, to do this, and then you go jump off. Like for her, that's like the craziest, stupidest thing, suicide. Why would you ever do that? Why would you do that to me?

SPEAKER_00 28:11

You know, I think my mom has the same belief. And when I did it for my first time, I don't think I told her.

SPEAKER_05 28:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

But I think I eventually told her months later, or maybe years later, but I think she would not agree with that.

SPEAKER_05 28:22

No, not at all. Be curious to see what you've kept from your mother. Okay, here's another one.

SPEAKER_04 28:29

Who is no, what is you what is your favorite thing about your mom? The absolute favorite thing about your mom. You melt.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

Well, it's a I mean, it's such a fully loaded question because I mean, the first thing that comes to my heart is like her just support for me is my absolute favorite. She supports me in just the she will show up for me in every which way possible to support. Now, as of like a gesture-wise or something that she does.

SPEAKER_04 29:05

No, it's just exactly what you're saying. You're the your favorite thing.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

I love how she will do anything for me to support. And I it's just so beautiful to witness however it may be that she's ready to just come to my side and say, What do you need? And so I could always, when needed, rely. But today I'll just share something small that I always get excited when I see her, and I feel she she is just like you when you do it. When I first see her, she just lights up in excitement. And this morning when she's like knocking my door and she's like peeking, it's like, good morning. It's like, oh, look at you, Michael. You're so cute here. And she like turns into this like little girl of like how excited she is to see me. And so that just that aspect of her genuineity and love is so cute because she's literally like this little girl that's just filled with love when she gets to see me, whether it's when I first see her, you know, going up to her house or when I wake up in the morning. So I absolutely love that, and of course, her unconditional support of love. She is that she's there like you know, as a mama lying. So when it comes to your mother, what is the absolute favorite thing about your mom?

SPEAKER_05 30:19

I love my mom is a bad teenager. I freaking love this about her.

SPEAKER_04 30:27

I love how she doesn't, I mean it's crazy, but I actually love she doesn't listen. She's like a rebellion, like badass, you know, and she just she's so wild and she doesn't care. I just like as as much as there are times it irritates me, I absolutely love this part about her because she's so filled with life, with life, like she's bigger than life. Her energy is so big in in just wanting to love especially men. Like she loves men. It's so it's not that she doesn't get around with men, but she just loves the energy of men. So it's so precious. That's beautiful, it's so adorable.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

I love that.

What We Would Do Differently

SPEAKER_04 31:28

So here's the next question. If you could do one thing over with your mom, what will it be?

SPEAKER_00 31:36

If I could do one thing over with that means you didn't do it right and you're given a chance, you can do it.

SPEAKER_04 31:44

What would you do? Just say what we what that would be.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

I guess it would be probably throughout my whole life, would be this is, you know, as a child growing up, or even a teenager and an adult, if there's one thing I could do over it was to express a greater level of gratitude and thanks to her and all that she has done for me so that it never looked like I was like taken for granted or it seemed any less important to her. And I would double that with communicating to her more frequently when I was a teenager and young adult because I felt like I was giving more attention to the external world than my inner world. But really, I would say, you know, to really express gratitude at an earlier age. And I did, but I felt like that gratitude and that muscle didn't really come as deeply expressive until I became later in my adult years. So I would just say just to really, really share my appreciation to her in ways that could have been deeper at a younger age.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

That's so wonderful.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

If it was one thing you could do over or one thing over with your mom, what would that be?

SPEAKER_04 33:18

So for me I mean I I can do there's several things that I can think of right away. I would say in my twenties I was angry at my mom a lot. I would have been not so judgmental. I was I was in when when our when my dad died in that car crash when I was 21, that brought up a lot. And out of that my mom had to make certain choices. And I was very angry. So a lot of the anger came what was inside of me because of migration, the war, all of this, and then US, all of this, and and you know, and how unfairly I was treated with being a being a woman and being a girl, and so I was angry a lot. If I having the understanding that I have now, being able to see it through a lens of non-judgmental, but true acceptance of you know the journey my mom took. Like I I I I couldn't even phantom what she had walked. So I I could only just judge her because I was so mad at her. On this lens, I certainly have more admiration. So I have I have changed. I've had to heal a lot of those and see actually the awe and wonder. So I would have been much kinder in my earlier 20s because that those are the those are the years that I was very depressed. That's why I went to clinic, I became a clinical therapist myself. I had to deal with that, and and I just I just I just felt my mom should have taken better care of me so I wouldn't experience all that hurt. But my mom truly did the best that she could with what she had. So that's what I would say.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

Oh, that's powerful.

SPEAKER_04 35:29

Yeah. So I'm curious as you are listening to this, what's hitting you as Michael and I being raw and real with this around our mothers.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

And feel free to push the pause button on your podcast if you have that moment of feeling like, hmm, what would this question do? Because they are really deep questions. Yeah, I just I just showed they're ones to sometimes just really marinate with because sometimes we don't ask these questions because these are wonderful, anything.

What We Wish Mom Understood

SPEAKER_04 35:57

No, no, this is dedicated to our mothers. Okay, so here's the next one. Okay, what do you wish your mom really knew about you, Michael? That you believe she still sees you.

SPEAKER_05 36:11

You know how our mothers like still see us from that, they don't really know us because they still see us in the like I'm I do the same. Like my children, I see them still like as little kids, you know.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

Well, I think my mom sees me at what I do, and she's very grateful for it. But I wish you really knew how big and far I want to go. Yeah, and sometimes when I express it, it looks like deer in the headlights for her.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

Because I know within myself there is this divine call in this passion. And my mom, God bless her heart, I felt like as she grew up, there was a lot of just following each step along the way and just you know, living in the box in ways, even though my dad took her out of the box and brought into quite a bit of spirituality. Yet I feel like, as you know me, I've broken the box and I'm ready to be the fullest expression of my God-given purpose. And I wish she really knew how far, when I say far, how much I really want to express and be what God gave me in the highest level. When I say highest level, dreams that this human hasn't even understood because I know God's gonna give something even greater what this mind can give.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

And so I wish she knew that I am I am inspired to be something that I could never imagine myself because God has a greater plan for me.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

That's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

Yeah. What about yourself? What your mom would really know about you.

SPEAKER_04 38:05

Yeah, mine is similar. I I really wish my mom would just maybe one time actually sit with me and say, honey, tell me. Tell me, tell me the details of what happened when you crossed over to Spirit Side, that day you died, what really happened? What what re what was that like? Like for her to actually sit and like really hear what I experienced and why my entire life changed, why I gave everything up to serve that, why, why, why when I was sent back, I was different. I wish, I wish she knew, and I know she knows, but she can't articulate put it together. But I wish she knew the level of love that I experienced being with mighty God presence and Yeshua, and and what I was shown, it was it was the dedication to come back and give my entire life to serve that. And until this day, she she doesn't want to hear it. I feel probably because it hurts her that I was that sick during that time. So I think it's the pain, and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So last question. Question number 10. What would you like to say to your mom today in one sentence?

SPEAKER_00 39:45

What would I like to say to my mom in one sentence?

SPEAKER_01 39:52

As she's listening to this.

SPEAKER_00 40:03

God, could have not given me a greater mother than you in the devotion, love, compassion, and care that you've genuinely given me with all my heart.

unknown 40:22

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

I could have not chosen a better mother.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

Oh, Suzanne June is gonna love this one. She'll definitely love this one.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

And if there is one thing you would like to say to your mom in one sentence today, what would you like to say?

SPEAKER_04 40:40

You know, every year for Father's Day, I would get a card for my mom. I would say, thank you for being my father and my mother all these years. Because she really, she really played that role, my goodness. And I want to thank my mom, from the core of my being mom, for for being someone who was so out of your box, out of the box in your family. And you gave us permission to me and my brother to be out of the box in your family, and to not follow the norm, not follow the rules, all of those, to be who God Almighty made us to be. Thank you so much, mom, for being the way shower for that. Just truly just that that incredible, incredible living spirit that's so alive and and to many, many, many more years with that beautiful living vitality that you carry. I love you so much, mom. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

And thank you, honey, for really placing these 10 questions because they are deep and they just came. And it'd be even great if you just wrote these questions down, maybe as a comment for those that just want to write them down and maybe even journal upon them, because I I feel just listening to each one could be an opportunity to really feel that deep appreciation for the mother, and even areas where we may have wounds or hurts and pain, to once again bring God's love through that in what we know as the truth of the divine mother that I feel is present within within mothers, you know, that that presence there and to go through these questions and to really feel them and sit with them and marinate are is such a valuable opportunity.

Loving A Mother As A Partner

SPEAKER_04 42:55

So they were not Chat GPT or Claude. No, they I just sat down, wrote them. Thank you, my love. I have a question to ask you. Sure. So you met me, and I was a mother, and I am a mother, I will always be a mother. My greatest joy in this world, the greatest blessing for me is that I'm a mother, I'm a mother.

SPEAKER_01 43:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:22

Like I'm just truly curious. How has me being a mother in this 10 years? How has that role of a mother been amazing for you and not so amazing? Unless honestly, just just yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:51

Well I always like to end with a good note. So it's good to be not so amazing.

SPEAKER_05 43:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 43:57

So I feel like I mean it's all been amazing. So it's hard to say not amazing, but maybe the not amazing would be. I mean, it's kind of funny because it is amazing. Because the not amazing is you remind me so much of my mother at times. So the not amazing part is like that overcaring can feel like over-controlling, and that over-controlling feels like you're treating me like a child sometimes, but you're not, because it's just this overwhelming amount of love.

SPEAKER_04 44:32

And so that took you a long time to understand. It took me a very because I feel Yeah, because I think that you should speak to that for a moment because it it you you for a long time you thought of it in one way until like it hits you that that's not what it is.

SPEAKER_00 44:46

And I have to attribute really to just my lack of healing through those mother wounds. Because growing up when I had a mother that was very caring, but very controlling, if I'm not finding that resolution of it, then those unhealed areas are going to come out my triggers with you. So I felt like in your overcaring, overwanting, it felt like an over-controlling that didn't allow me to feel independent. And so sometimes I feel like my independence was taken away when merely it was the ability for you to have that firm, strong nature, just like my mom, to communicate in ways that sometimes would bump me in different ways. So I wouldn't say not so amazing. If anything, it was great, it just felt not so amazing because it now to flip it around. What the amazing thing is, I feel the gift of you being a mother and a wife is like a double win because that is like you having the maturity, you having the discipline, you having the commitment, and you having the devotion to what it is to be that loving, caring is like the greatest piece that my soul is complemented with in my growth. Because I feel those pieces help me in the undeveloped areas of when I first met you, lack of accountability, lack of discipline, sometimes lack of taking responsibility, those areas that were, let's just say, undeveloped, your overdeveloped qualities, or let's just say mastery, experienced it. Now going through that at that time, it did not feel amazing because it felt like those were, it felt like almost like you were coming at a very masculine side from a feminine role when really you were coming more from that firm stronghold as a mother, and for a male, sometimes it felt overwhelming or over-dominating. And so to me, I look back at that, I'm like, wow, she's coming from the truth of being what I've seen, a mother like my mother, so caring, so compassionate, doing anything for her children. It's like a mirror. Like your mom, I mean, my mom and you are mirrors, and what the love that has been brought to children.

SPEAKER_04 47:18

Just one second, just to go back to what you just say, sorry to cut you off for a second. You were sharing that the what changed in you as you became you, as you became much more connected to yourself, much more secure in yourself, and that God present you, you began to see it from a whole different lens. Then you saw it's not controlling, it's none of that actually. It's just like I'm being who I am, and because I with the accountability responsibility, I'm showing up in that, and now you really match it because you raised that part. So now there is none of that.

SPEAKER_00 48:00

Absolutely. And to add to that, I feel like many of us, when we're in that egoic or mindset of limited beliefs, and that starts to dissolve into that heart-centered base of consciousness, then our heart truly feels more than the mind judging. And I felt like there was a lot of judgment because that the ego was so protective of those old ones that did not want to be brought forth. But all those as you showed up as I showed you more inner work that we've done so deeply that those walls come down, and I felt like it gravitated deeper into the heart, and even the wounds and hardships that we've gone through, it felt like our heart kept sinking in deeper and deeper and deeper. And then all those beliefs of what the mind may have thought quickly dissolved and just released because we saw that that love greater in the heart is above anything of those illusions that the mind may think.

SPEAKER_04 48:59

Yes. Definitely.

unknown 49:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:03

Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 49:04

That was a very deep question, and I I feel that's important for Yeah, because I'm I mean, this is dedicated to Mother, and you just forgot before I used on Mother's Day for a long time, I would get very upset at Michael because you know, I would have appointment, I would have like plans with my sons, but Michael, Michael would really just only celebrate his mom for Mother's Day. And and I remember probably like the thing that hurt me the most, Michael would say, like, it wasn't anything around Mother's Day with me. And this was this was much earlier on. And one day I questioned him, I was like, why is that? Do you understand I'm a mother? He's like, I don't see you as a mother, I see I just see you as my wife.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

I said I saw you more as a wife than a mother.

SPEAKER_04 49:50

But that that really, really hurt me. And and and I I don't know what happened, but whatever after that, things really began changing because it's like Michael was like, it was almost like as if he was separating me from being a mother, and that until he's like, No, no, no, there is no separation here. And as you began embracing that, then it was like so beautiful because then you you have my sons also to have that deeper understanding of mother and the celebration of mother. So that's it's almost like my it's almost they took it differently.

SPEAKER_00 50:25

It's almost my lack of awareness was the same thing that your children had that lack of awareness because I kept because all three of us would be like, uh-oh, it's it's Mother's Day, let's get our act together because we don't show a big for honey right now. We're all gonna be in the doghouse. So I would help them, they would help me. And they and sometimes they would say, Mom, Michael only sees you more of a wife because you're his wife, you're not his mother. It's like, no, but I am a mother and I love my children, and so they would like to defend me, I would help them, and then by the end of the day, we just feel like brought back into love. So it's and I think it's a greater awareness to what you've shown to me is when you can value someone's greatest gifts and understand how important they are, it truly is a heart-spoken language of realization. When a mother loves being a mother, it's only it's only normal and obvious, which sometimes men and myself in lack of consciousness would see that it's important to respect that and honor it, which I did not probably in the beginning, and as you as well, Brad Cardinal, that it's interesting to come full circle and be accountable for those years of lack of awareness, which I fully take in my humility and humbleness.

SPEAKER_04 51:46

Do you have any question from a mother perspective question from me that you have not asked me?

Taking Mother Love Into The World

SPEAKER_00 51:52

I guess as a mother, do you see yourself as a mother and that unconditional love you have for your children? Do you feel that love is as easy to give to others as easily it is to give to your children?

SPEAKER_04 52:19

Oh wow, what a what a question. Um you're talking about as easy. I would I would definitely say when it comes to I can only speak for myself, I can't speak to anybody else. When it comes to my children, there is a level of love that I've been blessed to experience through extreme circumstances that I never knew was possible or I was even capable of it that was brought up now. Is that that same intensity for for strangers? No, I wouldn't say so.

SPEAKER_00 53:09

What I would probably refine that is in the unconditional love you give to your children. Yeah, are you able to give that same unconditional love to others in that same capacity that you give to your children?

SPEAKER_04 53:32

I'm gonna say the same thing that I just answered. That level of intensity of unconscious, that level of love that like the extreme level of it that I'm speaking of, I have been able to experience it through my children. And I would I would say like immediate family, like certainly it's been practiced with you, certainly it's been practiced with my brother, certainly it's been practiced with my mom, certainly it's been practiced like your former spouse, like so. I I believe it's because of my children that have cracked me when it has come out. I I really would credit it. It's it's it's because of that.

SPEAKER_00 54:23

And the reason why I asked that, first of all, thank you for clarifying that because I believe, and I feel you know this, the love of a mother and a son, a mother and daughter, mother and child is such a deep level of love. Yes, and I feel Yeshua's presence on this planet when I look at this Christed heart-centered consciousness, is to live that love, be that love, and express that love. Obviously, in our families, are the prime practice of embodying that because we grow up and we have the deepest, most intense experiences. And I feel that's also a mastery of how we can take that love and then apply it toward everyone and most important to ourself, so that we're embodying what I feel is our true nature, our true design for our ability to live this beautiful ascension journey, incentive journey within us. So it's a very at the highest, most respectful, honored way of like, wow, a mother's love for children, a mother's level. That to me is one of the most unconditional love that can be felt. And I feel that's the divine love of like love without attachment, love without judgment, love without anything, because that love is the embodiment we're here to really bring forth in all aspects of I 100% agree with you, and and there is an idea of that, Michael, then there's the actual experience of it.

SPEAKER_04 56:15

And I find like when I'm speaking of the the some of the situations that I've experienced with my children where where the situation is the farthest thing from love, but on the inside, I'm being cracked open from the pain to choose love, that level of love, and so that's that's that pure Christ love that burst out of that level of pain and hurt, and you know, so that comes out, so then my human gets to witness the awe and wonderment of it, and then from there, then is the possibility when somebody else has like you know cause hurt and pain, can forgive and and not taken on. Right. So I I really, really would I would really credit that yet until one has gone through the experience and on the other side of it, it is it remains only an idea in the ethers. To bring it in the body, once you experience it in the body, and you crack open from your body on the inside, you you are birthed as a new person, and you birth truly in that Christ. And as that, like because there are times that you you like you don't even it's too rough, and to love, to choose love is wow, what a gift, what an incredible, incredible gift. So thank you for that question.

SPEAKER_00 58:14

Yeah, it's a very deep one because I feel there will never be something comparable to what that is. It was more focused on the ability and that expression of it because that is an area that I feel.

SPEAKER_04 58:30

I mean, certainly has been brought to use out of that. So much has been brought to you.

Honoring Every Kind Of Mother

SPEAKER_00 58:36

It's just it's a powerful expression because I feel in a world that we weren't really taught unconditional love or codependency as I see it, but more that divine God's love that I feel we're embodying and aligning is a is the devotion we see through our ministry, the devotion we see on this podcast, and the devotion we get to, as you say, we get to live and share with all these wonderful, amazing people. That thank you once again for joining us on this beautiful Mother's Day podcast.

SPEAKER_03 59:09

How do you feel?

SPEAKER_00 59:10

I feel lifted.

SPEAKER_03 59:12

Isn't it so beautiful? Do you do you feel those flutters on the inside, like just like this sweetness running through you?

SPEAKER_00 59:20

It was a shift of energy because before I could feel myself shifting due to other internal things that were happening. So I feel anytime that loving expression that comes through opens up the space for what I believe is our divine nature. That is our our our God Almighty love. So thank you for bringing those questions and really sharing that. And I hope that each person listening can have that experience of really feeling what those questions are to a mother, or even someone that could feel like a mother, you know. That's another area where I know in a lot of Latin American cultures the grandmother almost felt like the mother. That's right. And so it's just you're even maybe like someone that seemed like a godmother or stepmother. That's right. They can also apply that versus just the biological or adopted mother, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:15

So I'm very curious as you listen to this, how this land with you. This was not planned, we just rolled with it, and and the celebration of mothers is so important because the role of mothers and their dedication, their devotion, their love has really been suppressed for eons on our earth. We have this one day that we have made it a hallmark holiday of celebrating mothers, but it's one day out of 365 days. And to me, mothers need to be celebrated every single day, not one day out of the whole year. So that's why tomorrow, as as as you listen to this tomorrow, with my podcaster Masterminds, there are four amazing women that joined forces with me as I was inspired to dedicate a bonus episode to just mothers with these beautiful gifts that we're giving. So keep an eye out for that. That comes out on Friday, May. That's May 8th, if I'm not mistaken. That's right, Friday, May 8th. So that's just in honor of you, mother. And this is why I wanted today, as I shared with my court, let's honor mother, let this be dedicated to you. And I want to I want to close this together with my core for you, beautiful mothers, for those of you who've never been celebrated, for those of you who've never been honored, for those of you who've never really been acknowledged in your true worth, in your true value, Michael and I want to stand in this moment with you, with the presence of God Almighty, and behold you in this moment, to behold you in that presence of deepest gratitude, deepest appreciation, that your dedication and your love of the expression, being a mother has never been unnoticed through the lens of God Almighty. God Almighty sees you, God Almighty loves you, God Almighty is a witness to what you have experienced, what you have endured. And if people around you and your children did not express that, that is okay. That is okay. Whatever their capability is has been their capability. Me and Michael would love to stand here today and just tell you how much we love you, we appreciate you, we care for you, and we thank you because this beautiful earth is a much better place because you exist and you chose to love where others couldn't even receive that love. We are so grateful to you. You are treasured, you are honored, and you are celebrated, dear mother. And with all other mothers on this call, we fully embrace you and thank you so much for your late nights. Thank you so much for multitasking. Thank you so much for sacrificing yourself to take care of so much for the children. Thank you so much for extending that love. It's because of your love came on this planet. You brought love to this world, and the world is a better place because of your magnificent mother quality. So may you be celebrated today. And if somebody's not here with you in your family to celebrate you, may you go yourself to a restaurant, order the best food, get yourself that cake and celebrate yourself. Wait for nothing and no one. As this whole week I've been talking about celebration as I celebrated my birthday. You need to celebrate you so life will celebrate you.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:48

Amen. Amen.

Bonus Episode And Healing Pop-Up

SPEAKER_04 1:04:50

Amen to that. And we celebrate you, dear mothers, not just today, not just tomorrow, as you're receiving the bonus episode, not just this weekend, that is Mother's Day, every single day. And Michael has a special announcement for those of you who are in the DMV area, and those of you in our newsletter, you must you must have the newsletter to receive his special announcement one day only this Saturday.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:22

Saturday, May 9th.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:25

9th, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:27

I will be doing a special pop-up event for all the mothers that are here for a signature golden healing session, in which I will be presenting a one-hour special 333 event that I will be taking private sessions here in our beautiful location in person sessions to honor the mother, respect the mother, but most important, align her into her highest and greatest health and well being.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:54

So that will be spring recalibration here.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:58

So for all those that are listening. Here in the DC, Maryland, Virginia area, please contact me at info at ascensionalchemist.com, and I'd be more than happy to present that to you as a celebration. To celebrate you, and the greatest thing that you have is your health, your heart, and your God-given nature within. So thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:20

Thank you, mothers. Thank you, thank you, thank you. We love you so much. Have a beautiful, phenomenal, amazing weekend, and many more days to come as you journey being the magnificent mother that you are.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:36

Happy, happy, happy Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:39

Happy Mother's Day, yeah. Bye bye.