The Little Girl Who Felt Like Too Much | Caasi O'Day (Part 1)

What happens when a child grows up believing they are too much?

Too loud. Too emotional. Too needy. Too difficult.

In this deeply personal and emotionally raw conversation, psychotherapist Cassie O'Day shares the story behind the woman she became. Beneath the confident exterior, the successful career, and the decades spent helping others heal lies a little girl who spent much of her life carrying a painful question:

"Am I truly wanted?"

Cassie opens up about growing up in a family marked by trauma, emotional neglect, attachment wounds, violence, abandonment, and survival mode. She shares how those early experiences shaped her relationships, self-image, femininity, sense of safety, and eventually led her into psychotherapy.

For many women, this conversation may feel uncomfortably familiar.

The longing to be chosen.

The ache of never quite feeling seen.

The habit of becoming strong because vulnerability didn't feel safe.

The tendency to build a hard exterior while protecting a deeply sensitive heart.

Together, Knikki and Cassie explore attachment, trauma responses, emotional survival, feminine identity, somatic healing, and the hidden stories people carry beneath the surface.

This is not a conversation about blame.

It's a conversation about understanding.

About recognizing the wounds that shaped us.

And about discovering who we might become if we finally felt safe enough to let ourselves be fully seen.

Topics discussed include:

• Childhood emotional neglect
• Attachment wounds and abandonment fears
• The fight response in women
• Feeling "too much" or "a burden"
• Survival mode and protective identities
• Feminine versus masculine energy
• Self-sabotage and healing
• Somatic therapy and trauma stored in the body
• The lifelong desire to feel wanted, chosen, and loved

If you have ever felt unseen, misunderstood, emotionally abandoned, or forced to become strong long before you were ready, this episode may speak directly to a part of you that has been waiting to be heard.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Before we begin today's conversation, I want to ask you a question. Have you ever felt unseen? Have you ever wondered why certain wounds seem to follow you throughout your life, even after you've done everything you can to move forward? And have you ever stopped to consider that some of your strongest traits may have been born from survival rather than choice? Today, psychotherapist Cassie O'Day joins me for one of the most personal conversations we've had on the show. Together, we explore attachment, emotional neglect, healing, femininity, survival mode, and the lifelong human desire to feel wanted, valued, and safe. This episode is brought to you by Turning the Tide Tutoring, Acting with Pippy, Shared Humanity, A Field Agent's Journey into the Human Mind, and Your Wish is Your Command. I'm Nikki Hernandez, and this is the Gentle Year. Hey everyone, welcome back to The Gentle Year. I'm your host, Nikki Hernandez, and I'm here with psychotherapist Cassie O'Day. She is a powerhouse in this industry, and we're going to get into some of her personal experiences as a child. She's going to tell us a little bit about her life and what she went through and what led her to becoming a psychotherapist. So I'm really excited to do a deep dive on this. And we're also, of course, going to be talking about families and some of the practical tips and solutions that she is going to share with us today that will actually help families, especially those that are going through pretty traumatic experiences. So, Cassie, I'm going to pass the mic to you. Will you tell us a little bit about who you are, you know, where you're from, and a little bit about your background, if you don't mind?

SPEAKER_02 1:45

Hi, Nikki. Thanks for having me. Yes, my name is Cassie O'Day. I am first and foremost a woman, a mother, um, and by profession a psychotherapist. And so I've been in the psychotherapy world for 20 plus years. Um, I live in Las Vegas, Nevada, so there's lots of different things I encounter here in the state and in the city that keeps me very busy. And um so yeah, I do a lot of different things when it comes to my profession. I work with families, couples, and individuals. I also am a supervisor for interns and a consultant for different agencies and professionals here in town and also in across the country. I'm a continuing education provider, and I offer courses for both clients and colleagues to continue their education. And yeah, I'm just hoping to spread the word and help women and men and anybody else really kind of learn how to better navigate their lives and their histories and their trauma so that they can feel better, do better, and be there for their families in a different way than maybe their family was there for them.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Yeah, definitely. It sounds, you know, I'm just I'm just here with you in the moment. And you strike me as someone who is very street smart. Is that accurate? And if so, where did that that sense of street smartness come from?

SPEAKER_02 3:12

Well, I would say so. Um, I was raised in a family. We were raised in the Midwest. So lots of times when I tell people I was from Iowa, they kind of laugh and think, oh, you know, that must not have been hard. But my family corn, thank you, Nikki. Most people are like potatoes. I'm like, no, that's I know. Good job in geography class when you're as when you were a kid. Um, but the thing is, I was running in the cornfields, right? Like we were we were out having the parties when we were uh teenagers in the cornfields and in the country, but you know, my family was we grew up rough. We have um some history in town, in that small town, of not always getting along with others. I had come from a long line of strong women, and and um we don't always know how to keep our mouth shut, and that sometimes can get us in trouble. And so I think I was born with uh a little bit of a fighter mentality, and part of the thing that I'm trying to undo is that to learn there's a different way to navigate life without constantly having to be in a fight response. But yeah, I think uh I was I was given that at birth, whether I wanted it or not, and um took a few decades to figure out how to change that for myself so that I didn't have to pass that on to my kids. However, um they both have that energy, regardless if I want them to have it or not. So I think it's about channeling it in a way that's gonna serve them and hopefully not get them in the same type of trouble that their mom got into.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

Cassie gives us a little bit of insight into the way that she grows up, but she mentions one key term, and that is fight response. Based on my research, a fight response trauma, particularly in women, is characterized by adrenaline-fueled anger, physical defensiveness, and verbal assertiveness, and is often complicated or more complicated in the Midwest by cultural expectations to remain agreeable or quote unquote nice. When women suppress this natural defense to avoid social friction, this stored survival energy can lead to chronic anxiety and physical tension. Let's see if this definition matches with what Cassie's experience actually was. I can understand where you're coming from in that because so many parents, there's just been so many who have said that they've gone through their own ish, right? They've gone through their own stuff and they, even though they themselves are better and they're they're maybe not quote unquote cured of what they went through, and they know they still have their struggles and stuff. But I think one of the biggest fears of parents is not passing on those, those fight or flight cycles, that survival mode, all of that to their children. But I have to ask you, you started this conversation by saying, I am a woman. And that struck me because I at first I was like, wait a second, did I say he? That's what I was thinking in my head. I'm like, oh my God, I please tell me I did not like say that. But I have to ask, why did you start that way? You said you come from a long history of strong women and all of that, and you started the conversation with that. So I want to just kind of focus on um your perception of what it means to be a woman and why you began the conversation that way.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

Well, um, I don't do all the small talk, and so I'm not really great at parties because lots of times people, what do you do? You know, who do you know, especially in Las Vegas? And and I really don't care. Um, I work with the population in town that you might see on billboards or on shows or have really fat wallets, and there's not a lot of name dropping. And again, that doesn't really impress me. What impresses me is people being authentic. And so um I do have a career and I'm really great at it, and I love it. And I'm also a human being, and so when I meet people, I want to know who they are, what they've gone through, what are they like, what are they not like, what do they struggle with? I want to get to know who they are, not what they do, what they make, what size they wear. Um, and so I think that's also something that in the last few years I have started to really embrace more as well is that I am a woman. And um I again come from strong women, but we were not feminine women. We are very masculine energy women. Um, I don't know how to walk in heels. My mother doesn't know how to know how to do her hair, she did not teach me how to do makeup. Um, she taught me how to work, how to succeed, how to fight, how to stand up for myself, but I didn't really learn how to be a woman. And so that's one of the things that I've been on a journey trying to figure it out with a team of really great women that I work with. Um, so I think that's why I like to lead with that because I don't think it we are who, like what we do, we are so much more than that, and we lose a lot of that in society.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

Cassie mentioned that she grew up with women who knew how to work, which may indicate that they were in survivor mode throughout their entire lives. She also is now embracing a journey into her own womanhood and figuring out what that means to her. When you hear the phrase or declaration, I am a woman, what does that mean to you? How do you feel on the inside when you say, I am a woman? What comes up for you? How do you feel?

SPEAKER_02 8:39

Well, um, I work with a somatic coach, and today I actually had my um, I'm on a on a sacred momentum journey where I am setting intentions for myself. And when I say I'm a woman, it's it's pretty wild that I felt really confident saying that. And I'm looking at you when I said that, which usually I have a hard time with eye contact as the participant or as the client or as the person being vulnerable and saying things like that. Um, because it feels icky, it feels you know, like it feels funny in my body sometimes to hold that energy. And so one of the things I'm really trying to do for myself is to be able to have my masculine energy, which I embrace. Everybody knows that about Cassie O'Day, like that's what she is. But the feminine energy, the softer, the sweeter, the playful, the tender, the nurturing, the vulnerable side, not everybody gets to see that. And and that's who I really am underneath that masculine front that I've had to put on to the world to protect the sweet side of myself. So it felt really good, actually, Nikki. So thanks for bringing that to my attention. It it felt it landed well.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

I'm glad. I'm glad that that it landed well. That's that's really beautiful. So, do you feel like the real you, the real personality of Cassio Day is sort of trapped?

SPEAKER_02 10:05

100%. Um, yeah. Uh we we all have parts of us that are trapped. And oftentimes we're born with these really beautiful, um, you know, sweet selves, and the world just kind of piles things on us, and so we start to create protective parts that protect us. And um, I think, you know, I I left my husband a couple of years ago, and that really gave me the insight and the space to do some deep healing and to find who I really was when I knew I was safe. And that's a question I always ask people in my therapy room is who would you be if you knew you were safe? And about five years ago, as I was at a conference and I heard Richard Schwartz, who is the developer of internal family systems, say that. And it was almost as though I had been smacked in the face. And I just started crying. And I was like, who would I be if I knew I was safe? Who would I be if I didn't have to act this way or protect this or do that? And so it really took me on a pretty wild but pretty beautiful journey to figure that out. And I'm excited about what the future holds to figure out and and and honestly meet trapped parts of me that have been knocking on the door saying, hey, I'm in here, come get to know us. And they're really excited about me coming and opening the door and letting them out.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

I have a couple of questions for you. Cassie first stated that parts of her feel trapped. And my question is, what parts of you or parts of your children's personality and true self do you feel are trapped? Cassie also mentioned that when she said that she was a woman previously, it didn't resonate or align with her self-image. Question number two for you is going to come in the form of an activity. I'm gonna give you 11 simple statements that you can use to test whether something resonates with you or doesn't resonate with you. You can ask yourself, does this feel unquestionably true? Does this feel mostly true? Does this feel uncertain? Does it feel false? Or does it create resistance or discomfort from within my body? I'm going to give you these 11 statements now. Please repeat them out loud and assess how much they resonate with you. Statement number one, I am a woman. Statement number two, I am a human being. Number three, I have a body. Statement four, I am a body. Number five, I have thoughts and feelings. Number six, I am learning and growing every day. Number seven, I am capable of making my dreams come true. Number eight, I am resilient. Number nine, I am worthy of happiness. Number ten, I am confident. Number 11, I am wealthy. I I'm excited for you, to be honest with you, to see that that person come out and for you to feel comfortable on your own skin and and with who you actually are and to feel safe enough to do so. I know you're comfortable with who you are because I can sense from your energy that you actually like yourself. You like the real Cassie. I I think I can kind of sense that from you. I could be wrong, but I think you like who you are, but you're just afraid to let her out. And it's not because of what other people think. I don't think you're the type of person that like is super worried about, like, oh, how am I being perceived by people or anything like that? I think it really is a safety. It's a safety thing because society has in the world and maybe family has done some things that has has caused you to go into a survivor mode. And you've picked up this new personality. And this new personality is something that we all need. We all need to have some sort of a survivor personality because if we don't, like you could, I mean, you could easily find yourself in a situation that's not good. It's kind of like a child that has no self-awareness, no, no safe, you know, no instincts in that regard because they're so pure and they're so innocent. So we have to have some kind of a survival mechanism that kicks in, but it doesn't have to be all of us. It doesn't have to be all consuming. So for context's sake, the listeners of this show don't know anything about you, and they don't know anything about your past and what you've gone through. How comfortable are you in talking about some of those things or at least giving us a glimpse into your life growing up?

SPEAKER_02 14:54

Comfortable, there's a lot. So I could talk for an hour and tell you the story. So you just tell me what you want to know, and we'll kind of go that way.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

Absolutely. So, with you being a psychotherapist, I think I'm just gonna go into some harder questions. Usually I kind of throw a little bit softer questions at people because I don't know you know how they're gonna respond. But some of the questions that cut that's coming to mind, and you can pick whichever one you want to answer, are were you abused? Were you sexually abused? Um did you lose someone in your family, like in death? Was there drugs involved in your family life? Incest? Anything like that? Um I'm also thinking of potential um emotional abuse, emotional abuse in terms of just being put down all the time. So I don't know which one of those questions is resonating with you the most, but we could start with one of those perhaps.

SPEAKER_02 15:57

Um you know, the one that stands out the most, I mean, so it's all of those hit, um, but mostly because I ended up taking myself to a lot of those different things. The thing that I realize resonates more than anything is the neglect. And um, you know, some of the leaders in in my field will say it's not only what happened to you, it's what didn't happen to you or for you. And I was born to two, you know, young parents. My mom was 19, my dad was 20, you know, it was the 80s. They were, you know, they were, you know, free thinkers, and you know, we'll say, you know, they enjoyed partaking in in different substances. They were kids, they were young. I had a a young, or I'm sorry, an older brother, and you know, my mom came from trauma from a family that she was abused. Um, and my dad was adopted. And so I grew up from truly from the moment I was born with attachment issues, I believe, after all of my work and myself. I I have disorganized attachment, which is very much so I want to be loved, but I will also push you away. And it started from the moment I was born that I didn't want my mom to leave me, whether or not she had the capacity to love me in the way that I wanted her to love me. Um, I knew how to keep her close, and that was to um be exclusively breastfed. And so I never let her go. And so she I was never able to take a bottle. Um, she was never able to leave. And so I developed the nickname Boo when I was a kid, and I was a lot from the time I was born. And I was oftentimes told I was a lot, that I was difficult, I was a pain. I, you know, my poor mother, right? She was young herself. And I think that's where that narrative of you're a lot, you're too much, you're a burden really came from. At nine months, I started walking, I started talking, I had places to go and things to do. And, you know, uh, yeah, I I was I was off. And I I learned from a very young age that if you're gonna take care of yourself, or if anyone's gonna take care of you, you're gonna take care of yourself. And that's something that my mom kind of taught me because that was what was taught to her when she was pregnant at 14 and had her first kid at 15. She was told by her parents, you you did this to yourself, now you're gonna take care of it. And so I had that that was my no, that was my brother.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

And so that was kind of the mentality that I was raised with. And so, you know, I've done a lot of work, and I can I remember feeling my dad. I know where my dad was in my childhood. We have memories. I I remember playing with him, listening to music, playing the guitar, but I don't remember my mom a lot. And so my mom worked, that's what she did. She worked a lot. Her her legacy was to raise the family and get them out of poverty and to get them somewhere that she never got to be. And I appreciate that about her, but also one thing that I don't know if I've ever quite got from her is the love that I would love to give from her and the love she never got to receive as a child either. And so I no longer blame her for that, but I think that caused a lot of my pain. And so, looking back at my story, there was a lot of self-sabotage myself. Um, I was really angry. I was a fighter from the time I was in kindergarten. The first fight I got into was I pushed a little girl down the stairs because she played with my toy kitchen in kindergarten. You know, I wanted what I wanted, and nobody was going to get in the way of what I wanted. And in, you know, my teenage years is when I really went south. And truly what it was is I was a tomboy. I didn't feel connected to females. I didn't have that feminine energy. And so I hung out with a lot with the boys, played football, played in the cornfields, played in the sewers, you know, did all the country things. Well, at a certain age, the boys don't want to hang out with you anymore. If you're a girl and they're gonna hang out with you, they want something else from you. And so that's where I would say more so the self-induced sexual abuse came in, is that I introduced myself to sexual relationships at a young age because I wanted to be wanted. I wanted to be included, I didn't want to be abandoned, right? And so that led to drugs, that led to dicey situations with um males. And then that very quickly led to a lot of negative criticism from the very small town that I lived in. And that just then led to the violence where I would just act out, I would get in trouble, I would talk back. I I mean, at 15, I was made a ward of the state because my parents no longer wanted to be responsible for any of the legal troubles I was getting into. Um, got involved with a gang, you know, nothing like the ones in Las Vegas, but very much so, you know, a group of violent people. And at 15, I was moved across the country because um they were trying to kill me. And so people would be breaking into my houses and trying to get me at night. At school, they would jump me in the bathroom. Um, there was no way really to control the the terrorizing, you know, the terror, I don't know what the word I would say, but me being terrorized, even in the school setting, there there was no way to control it. Um so looking back, you know, there's I I hold myself responsible for the role I played in that. Um, I also recognize that if I had the love that I wish I had, the support and the guidance that I no longer blame my parents for, but I also like I needed something more than I had. Um I don't know if things would have turned out this way, but I also am not mad about it because when I was forced to go to therapy, I hated all of my therapists and I thought they were all stupid. And they didn't understand me. And I was gonna go to school and I was gonna be a therapist and I was gonna be better than all of them. And I don't know if I'm better than them, but I think that my experience and my insight and my path makes me a phenomenal therapist, and I'm able to relate with people in a way that others maybe cannot. And so, um yeah, I don't know if you have any questions about that. We can go deeper if you'd like. Of course.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Isn't it the first thing that kind of comes to mind is isn't it interesting how some of us become what we needed? And I have to ask, all of this, in your opinion, came from the feeling of not feeling wanted? Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

I know they wanted me because my brother wasn't he wasn't bland. I know my parents wanted me. I just don't know if my mom, you know, had the capacity to love me in the way that maybe she even wanted to love me. I believe she has um disorganized attachment as well, where she very much so wants love but doesn't know how to connect. I still think that's evident today. For instance, Mother's Day. I asked her if she'd like to do something and eh, I don't know. And I was like, Well, I'd like to spend time with you. It's Mother's Day. Well, we're getting together at the end of the month to go to Disneyland and it's Mother's Day. I'd like to spend time with you, right? I'm a mom. I'd like you to maybe spend some time with me and we could celebrate together. And so I know I was wanted, but the big thing that I hear is you're too much and you're a burden. So those are kind of my my stories that I've told myself. Wanted, yes, too much, yes.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

I think not trying to, I don't know what I'm trying to do, but it seems to me like there's a difference between knowing that you were wanted and feeling like you were wanted. And I think that you know it intellectually. I mean, that could come from a variety of places. That could have come from your parents maybe telling you that. It could have come from the fact that your mom did breastfeed you. It could have come from a lot of different places, but I don't get the feeling that you ever felt wanted. And it wasn't necessarily, I'm just guessing here, grasping at straws, but it doesn't feel like you felt like you were wanted necessarily because you weren't, but maybe because of the attachment style. And then as a child, you don't know because as a child, you're just growing up, you're a baby in the womb, and then you go through your first couple of years of life, and you're totally dependent on the people around you for survival, for everything. And so you learn very quickly what type of behaviors are wanted, what type of behaviors will get you what you want, and what type of um things will elicit certain reactions in the people around you. And then you start to also feel the emotions of the people around you to at a very acute, highly sensitive level. It's more, I I would, I would argue that the ability to sense the your parents' emotions is almost like a sick sense when you're a baby because you can't talk yet. So the only thing that you have to rely on are the feelings that are being projected onto you. And then that may make you feel like I'm I'm not wanted. I don't know. What do you think? Before we continue with Cassie's story, I want to introduce you to a book called Shared Humanity, A Field Agent's Journey into the Human Mind, written by Robert Gillespie, a former federal investigator turned psychotherapist. The book explores not only mental illness from a clinical perspective, but also the emotional wounds, struggles, and experiences that connect us as human beings. If Cassie's story is resonating with you, I would encourage you to pick up a copy for yourself, your book club, or your educational or professional training program. And if you're looking for deeper insight connected to professional expertise into the themes that relate to Cassie's experience, consider reading the chapter entitled The Devoted Daughter. Robert is also available to speak with organizations, lead discussions, and teach classes based on the ideas explored in the book, drawing from decades of experience working directly with individuals in the field. You can learn more about Shared Humanity, a field agent's journey into the human mind, through the link in today's show notes.

SPEAKER_02 26:44

I know.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

I was like, oh no, I've gone too far. I've pushed too far.

SPEAKER_02 26:48

No, no, not at all. Um, I I love when people say things, because not a lot of people will say things that um they're scared of me, is what I oftentimes get, which is crazy because underneath all of that is really just a sweet, um, vulnerable person that wants to feel wanted.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Oh, it's so obvious. It's so obvious. At least to me, it's so obvious. Oh my god. The hard exterior, all that. I know because I I wear that same costume, that same mask every day. So I as soon as I saw you, I'm like, oh, she's just me. So it was easy.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

Yeah, I think that lands. Um, you know, when you said like it's one thing to know that you're wanted, another one to feel wanted. And uh I don't think out of all of my training, all of my therapy, anyone has said that to me. And if they did, I didn't hear it. Yeah, that lands. I'm I'm uh I wrote it down on the paper in front of me and just kind of looking at it. And even, you know, even now I will say to my parents, they live 25 minutes away from me in Las Vegas, and I'll say, you know, can you guys come over or can you come spend time with me or with the kids? And and it they've changed in the last year because I finally had to have a conversation with them. Like, if you don't try, like I don't know what you want, like my children are confused why you don't spend more time with us. We can go to your house, but I have eight now ten-year-old boys, they're ambunctious, and you don't really have a space for them to play, and I don't want them to ruin your stuff. So I need you to come over here a little bit more. And you're right, I I don't feel wanted and I don't feel um, which is hard to say, right? Because I know they do, and I feel I'm like, oh, worried, oh, if they listen to this, right, they're gonna be their feelings are gonna be hurt. But maybe that's also a place where they could hear of I don't feel wanted, right? Like if I if you wanted me, where's the effort? Where's the phone calls? Where's the invitations? Where's the you know, I I think about my kids, I'm in their business, right? I'm hugging, I'm cuddling, I'm going to their games, I'm playing with them, I'm doing all of this stuff. And um yeah, my mom will say that when she I was little, she tried playing with me, and I would like I didn't want her to play with me. And and again, was it that sense of like very mixed energy, right? And I felt that energy from you, and it didn't feel good. So I wanted it to go away. My dad was very different, he um, you know, just different energy. He plays the guitar, he chills, we hang out, you know. Even to this day, he plays with my kids in a different way than my mom will play with my kids, even with me. Um, he will embrace me, lots of hugs, lots of, you know, and my mom does a quick kind of embrace. And so, yeah, that um I think that lands a lot.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Well, good. I think that's I'm glad. So I do have a question. Uh the the question is this energy of whatever you're feeling on the inside, whether it's unwanted, not wanted, whatever the case is, is this energy, what's the temperature of this energy? Is it hot? Is it cold? What do you what you know, where's your for actually no, let me say this. Where do you feel that pain? Is it like in your shoulders? Is it behind your eyes? Is it in your head? Is it in your heart or your chest, or is it more in your stomach, or where, you know, somatically, right? Because you're you're you're seeing that somatic doctor, where do you feel that pain?

SPEAKER_02 30:36

Uh a lot of gut. I have a lot of gut issues. Um, and so I lots of times will feel it. I have a spot on my right hand side that um no one is allowed to touch. It's almost like if someone goes to touch it, it's you're gonna get like that elbow. It's that in the middle of the night, I will rub that spot. That's the spot that I go to self-soothe. And I I absolutely feel it when you asked me, it's like this shakiness inside. I just closed my eyes and there's this shakiness that's very much so in the chest, the heart, and the upper shoulder area. And I oftentimes will lean forward um in somatic IFS that's interpreted as a part that's trying to like go toward and try to, you know, get you to want me rather than being upright or kind of allowing that's more when I lean back, it's protection. But no, it very much so is. I had um last October, my somatic coach did an exercise with me where I constantly had this ache in my heart, and it was like a pain that it was painful, and I had had it for many, many, many years, and it'd get louder and softer in its intensity. And so I call it an exorcism. I don't know what she calls it, but we cleared the energy, we released some stuff, and truly it was wicked. For like the week after that, I felt like my whole body was split in half. Like my brain felt weird, my body felt weird. And ever since then, that pain has been lifted from my heart, and a lot of stuff has kind of changed in how with my family, with friends, with the way I'm working, you know, or interacting with my kids. So there's definitely a piece that still sits in my heart, but not as bad as it used to be. But there's a lot in my gut for sure.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. It it does make sense to me because, like, even though I didn't live the same life as you do, I can definitely see, even in my own experience and in other kids' experience, the ones that have some gut issues. I mean, it might not be all cases, of course, but usually there's some level of abandonment or fear, being scared. And I feel like that really concentrates in the stomach. I don't know though. I'm not a doctor.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

Absolutely. Absolutely.

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For those of you guys interested in exploring more about what Cassie is talking about, about feeling this energy being trapped in the body, somatic does mean related to the living body. And somatic therapy is a body-centered approach that focuses on how trauma and stress manifest physically. It operates on the principle that the body holds and expresses unresolved emotions, helping individuals release physical tension and regulate their nervous system. This will conclude part one of our interview with Cassio Day. Please stay tuned for a message from Your Wish is Your Command, a book that completely changed my life.

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