Habibi's & Sports | The Playmaker Show Ep. 22

Habibis, in this episode of The Playmaker Show we debate a potential Maxx Crosby trade, rank the top NFL WRs (without Zay Flowers), question when Lamar Jackson gets the blame, discuss Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Oklahoma City Thunder’s rise, debate Jayson Tatum vs Jaylen Brown, ask if the Los Angeles Lakers will make the playoffs, react to Bam Adebayo’s 83-point game, and reveal the punishment for our UFC 326 loser. 🔥

🔥 What We Cover This Episode:
00:00 Intro
02:55 Maxx Crosby trade
07:29 Top 10 WR’s list
10:57 Daniel Jones contract news
15:17 When are we going to blame Lamar Jackson?
26:45 Does Ronaldo need a WC to be the best player?
31:32 SGA and OKC recent success
39:50 Jayson Tatum or Jaylen Brown
44:08 Are Lakers making the Playoffs?
47:05 Bam Adebayo’s 83 point game
52:45 UFC 326 punishment
57:12 DMV Drives ad
59:07 Outro

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

If you're a generational player and you know you're one of the greatest in the world, you're gonna make something shake even if it's within nine years of an organization you're in. Let's think about the biggest players we know. You know, they've always made something happen in their team, despite of how bad the team around them is.

SPEAKER_05 0:16

You guys compare Lamar versus versus Patrick Mahomes. But now it's shifted to Josh Allen versus Lamar because you know why Mahomes lapped them. They just let fucking Bam out of Bayo score 83 chicken nuggets on their head.

SPEAKER_02 0:31

How the fuck Bam out of Bayo out of all players in the NBA? Y'all let their souls.

SPEAKER_05 0:36

Playmakers, if y'all want to see us play 1v1 on video, we can do that too. We can do that for sure. And don't forget too. Hey, this is on camera. That's fine. We can do that for sure. Playmakers. Y'all let me know who y'all got. A couple of my fellow podcasters were telling me about a player named Luca Donkits. I'm not gonna, you know, beat a horse while he's down. Luca's going through a lot right now. Divorce with his wife. Um he's been liking IG model's pictures on Instagram. As you should. Probably gooting at home at nighttime.

SPEAKER_04 1:04

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SPEAKER_01 1:05

I'm rampage jacking.

SPEAKER_05 1:08

But so I'm spanking shit right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

So they gotta shout out to Mm.

SPEAKER_04 1:15

That's how it should be. Uncle look. You still gonna look? Keep it playing, though. Guatemala, USA might win. I don't know, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:22

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SPEAKER_05 1:27

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SPEAKER_04 1:29

You already know. We're in Dubai with it. If you know you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:35

Come on, now that we're gonna be gone before the shit got out anyway. That's true. That's true. That is true. No. This is a great, so great episode loaded. We have to go through a lot of trials and tribulations. Shit ain't never, it ain't always smooth, you know. But you know, you got bumps on the road somehow, somehow, but you gotta figure it out. It's all about life. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

John, gotta be grateful for what you got. Yes, sir. You know, having uh a clear a clear road ahead is kind of what you make out of it, bro. So if we making the best out of this, shit, we I'm good. You know what I'm saying? So brand new, brand new setup. Would it be a permanent though? What would you think?

SPEAKER_00 2:18

I mean, I don't know. If we if we yeah, trying to move out here, I mean. I'm not gonna I'm like in Dubai. We'll let y'all decide.

SPEAKER_05 2:25

If y'all like it, we'll stay.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

It's not like we're in dirty ass Baltimore.

SPEAKER_05 2:30

Man, shout out to Baltimore though.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Shout out to Baltimore, though.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Shout out to Baltimore. You can't you can't say that. You know who doesn't want to stay in dirty ass Baltimore?

SPEAKER_02 2:36

I know who.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Nice strategy. First of all, we didn't want that nigga. We just we said forget that nigga. It's a strategy, bro. He's injured ass.

SPEAKER_04 2:44

We try to sign him just so other teams don't get him.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

Listen, hey, he's injured ass dude. We don't want him. He's probably wash. He probably didn't do good in the in the in the in the physical. Nah, in the physical. He didn't do good and he didn't look good. And hey, we gave that problem to somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

You said he didn't do good in practice, but why does it matter if he didn't do good in practice if you know he's a beast in games?

SPEAKER_04 3:07

The GM ain't see something he didn't like. He saw something he didn't like. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 3:11

Nah, man. Let's just just Max Crosby, this these shenanigans, it's gonna cause a lot of riffraff and turbulence when Ravens try to do any further negotiations. Any other trades y'all try to work with, it's gonna y'all gonna be uh it's gonna be a red flag on y'all on your name. I hope you know. I think that's good business.

SPEAKER_04 3:30

Go ahead. Any player in the NFL if they had the right cap space, bro. They can sign any player in the NFL.

SPEAKER_05 3:35

At this point, it's not about cap space because according to reports, y'all were well aware of his injuries before y'all accepted the deal. Y'all gave those picks knowing that he was gonna be out until about June, July. Coming out from Miniscus here. He had surgery. There was no way they made that trade without y'all knowing. You just can't do that.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

No, absolutely. And and they and they were aware, but I just think that, hey, I think they the Ravens noticed what was at stake and they were making a mistake and giving all those picks, you know, and especially losing some some great players, like, you know, Isaiah Likely, and no, well, we're talking about the defense, but uh, you know, we still gave up some some some pretty good players, and I felt like, you know, we was kind of a little hurt at the time. You gave up your best tight end, your best player? I wouldn't say our best, but maybe the best last season.

SPEAKER_05 4:22

Harbaugh was playing chess, y'all were playing checkers. So he made y'all extend Mark Andrews. He left, and he took the tight end he really wanted from the roster. He did. He didn't. Not only that, y'all lost your best OER. Shout out to you, Harbaugh. Offensive lineman. Y'all best blocker. I'm not, for me, I'm not a Ravens fan. I'm not, it may sound like this is hate, but listen. It's gonna look scary for y'all. LJ 8 is going into season 10, year 10. No real silver where you want to count the MVPs, okay? Two of them. It's all good. I just want two of them. You touch the MVPs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

No. As long as we have Lamar, everything's gonna be alright. Exactly. But how long? Everything's gonna be alright. How old is Lamar? You're gonna keep relying on Lamar? Well, he's only 28.

SPEAKER_05 5:02

And you're still winning the top three QB. I just told y'all, y'all just lost your best offensive lineman and your best blocker. Derrick Henry, them hoes not gonna look as smooth.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Ravens gotta make a move. We gotta see what Ravens, you know. Obviously, this is shooting before any any Wednesdays before any deadline. So uh the new year starts tomorrow, so expect to see a lot of movement going on in the in the league. Absolutely. So we we gotta see what Ravens, you know, is bring you know, have in the in the backhands and and see what, you know, we're not just gonna slander the trust, that's all.

SPEAKER_05 5:31

Not just gonna slander the Ravens. I AP, you it you've been sleek, bro. It sounds like you're not really the best negotiator. We've been we've been in talks with a bunch of players, and we're we're we've come in second to multiple people that I feel like could have made the roster impactful. Dove just went to the Patriots. We came in second place again. Uh-huh. Who else? It's just it's just Alec Pierce. I didn't want him to I didn't want him for that much amount of money, so I can respect that. You're talking about the commanders, right? Yeah. You let likely go to the to the Giants. They said he they weren't really impressed with his tape. I don't blame you. He don't he don't block. Isaiah Likely don't block. He blocks. He don't block block. He does. He does actually don't block block. He does. He does.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

He definitely does block, bro.

SPEAKER_05 6:20

Compared to all the titans on the market, he was probably the worst blocker I've seen. He's better offensively, though. That's what simple. But like you wanna, we need a titan that's who's gonna put his body on the line as well as block. Likely will do that for you, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

He's a better blocker than likely, by the way. Yeah, but he is. That's all he does. He's really uh he's been better for us as a blocker blocking than offensively, and you know, it's it's a shame that we let likely go like that. And you know.

SPEAKER_05 6:47

Tell me what's the what's the what's the what's the thought process in letting your first round pick go and your wide receiver want to still um Zay Flowers? What's the thought process there? Who's Lamar throwing to?

SPEAKER_04 6:57

Likely's gone. But there's no guarantee that the W R1 who's coming out the the draft is gonna be like that, bro. It's always a gamble. I'm taking Zay Flowers who's top ten over No Offensive. He's a top 10 receiver in the league, yes. Zay Flowers is a top 10 receivers. Name nine better receivers than then you can't. I I can't do it.

SPEAKER_02 7:18

Let's name R. Let's say, let's name nine other than Zay nine better receivers because he's out of the top ten, or I'll start.

SPEAKER_05 7:26

Let's do it. I'll start, I'll start simple. I'm taking Terry McLaurin over Zay Flowers. I'm taking it. I agree. We can all agree with that. Damn it. I'm taking that, but okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

Okay, do the do the do it.

SPEAKER_05 7:38

Scary, eh? Terry. I'm taking AJ Brown over over Zay Flowers. I'm taking Devontae Smith over Zay Flowers.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

AJ Brown last season?

SPEAKER_05 7:46

Uh over AJ Brown is an overall player.

SPEAKER_04 7:49

I'm taking that's three in my book. That's three. I ain't gonna hold you. The Terry McLaurin joint is a little iffy, but you can go on.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

What's the third one you said?

SPEAKER_05 7:56

I said uh Devontae Smith. Okay. Okay. I'm taking um, what's his name? From the Falcons. God damn, I'm having a brain fart. Can't even think of it. I'm taking Drake London over over Zay.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

Drake London over Zay? Fuck yeah. Never mind. I mean, that's not Drake London Flyers. I'm taking Mike Evans over Zay Flowers.

SPEAKER_05 8:17

I'm taking Mike Evans over Zay Flowers. I'm taking um S6.

SPEAKER_02 8:20

No, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

Mike Evans that hasn't played a full season in three. Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Evans hasn't played a full season in three Mike Evans.

SPEAKER_02 8:31

That's that's already what come on, we already think it.

SPEAKER_05 8:36

So, okay, you want to fight over Mike Evans? I can replace him. Yeah. Nah, but Ted McLaughlin is better than Zay Power. Terry McLaurin. He may not be a top ten receiver, but he is better than Zay Flower. You said 10 receivers. He's better at what? At wide receiver one. Take that. Are you crazy? Nah, bro. You're drunk. Nah.

SPEAKER_04 8:53

I must be obviously reduced the song.

unknown 8:55

Nah.

SPEAKER_05 8:58

I was trying to save the obvious for last, but for me, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_04 9:02

I think about JSN, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase. Like those are like the obvious answers. Puka. Puka, yeah, he's up there. He's up there. I'm taking Devontae Adams over Zay Flowers, to be honest. I mean, nah. What are we talking about? Nah. Stephon Diggs. If we're talking like, but he was top 10 in receiving touchdowns this year, though. Zay Flowers. Because he's the only receiver y'all have.

SPEAKER_05 9:21

Who the fuck is going to catch that shit? He's beating so he gets open. No, yeah, if that's the only receiver that Lamar has to throw to.

SPEAKER_04 9:28

Who else is? Y'all telling me other receivers that you just named aren't aren't the first option on their team? Mike Evans is. Mike Evans is Drake London is. Every single one of them are. JJ is. Jamar Chase is the all of the stuff. Every single one, though.

SPEAKER_05 9:40

Every single one of them. The only person that I know didn't have as many um touchdowns or receiving yards as Zay Flock off the top of my head is Justin Jefferson. Because his quarterback was McCarthy. And he's terrible. McCarthy is garbage. But you even still, I'm still taking it.

SPEAKER_04 9:54

But you're your generational talent. Make it happen, bro. What do you mean? Tell me about uh uh Jamar Chase or uh Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson, yeah. Nigga, bro, make it happen, bro. What the fuck? What do you mean make it happen? Nigga, he's the number one pick first of all. He's as good as you. To be honest. Nah, I think you're better, bro. Nah, nah, yeah. No, you drive better than him, bro. No, JJ McCarthy.

SPEAKER_02 10:12

You're a job better than JJ McCarthy.

SPEAKER_04 10:14

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 10:15

Start meet right now.

SPEAKER_05 10:16

OC fool. No, no. Trippling.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

You just gotta throw a lob too, Justin, bro, and let him work. JJ McCarthy.

SPEAKER_05 10:23

I think what's it called? Our backup's better than JJ McCarthy, to be honest. Mariota. Mariota. I'll take Mariota with JJ. Shit was Malik Willis over JJ McCarthy. Oh, yeah, any day.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

I'll take uh Will Howard over JJ McCarthy.

SPEAKER_04 10:39

I'll take Jameis Winston over that nigga. Jamie Winston? Over.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

We'll see.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

If you want interception and have touchdowns, that's fine, bro. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 10:50

No, but let's talk about Daniel Jones. Have you guys seen the contract that he did hear?

SPEAKER_05 10:55

Daniel Jones just fleeced the Colts. I don't know what they're about to do. They got rid of the backup. I think they're gonna pay him. They are, they have the Colts are gonna pay him.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

Yeah. Yeah, GG's. But I think they're gonna still pay him though. I believe they are. They got rid of Pittman.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

This to the one I owned. This dude was asking 50 million a year. Who? For three years. Uh Daniel Jones. After he they offered him a hundred years. A hundred million uh for three years. He declined it and he asked for 150. Daniel Jones. Now I'm not sure. You know, they they started pretty strong, and it was unfortunate that he did get hurt. But I mean, come on now. It's Daniel Jones. I mean, he hasn't proven to us that he's you know he has done any absolutely nothing. Not like a Lamar or he's not even nowhere near to be asking that crazy.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 11:54

So yeah, it's it's it's tough, you know.

SPEAKER_02 11:58

Shit, give me one tenth of that. I'll be Michael Vick. Prime Michael Vick, bro. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 12:04

Oh my god. Speaking about football too, the draft's coming up, it's a lot of promising prospects. I know y'all not really too big on the draft because y'all always trying to say it's not a guarantee that these prospects could be like successful, but this year's draft, first of all, I think it's the they have the fastest times in history. That's that's a generational talent that talent that can that can swing the it can swing our our season, bro. Nah, bro. Granted, they stay healthy. Y'all need way more than just a running back, bro. Nigga. We went to the conference finals with this with a shittier roster than we had last season.

SPEAKER_04 12:36

You see how every time that they always rely on that one conference finals during the we could have done the same thing last year, granted if our generational quarterback said no.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

So what do y'all do?

SPEAKER_04 12:47

But I think we still have a better team. No matter who y'all sign, we all we're always gonna have the better team in the better team. Our rosters are kind of identical, to be honest with you. Y'all are fake rebuilding, though. The commanders are fake rebuilding.

SPEAKER_05 12:57

Y'all just emptied out the stadium. Y'all emptied out your locker room. It's fine. But motherfuckers think gonna show up for the ball.

SPEAKER_04 13:06

Hardboard had decent teams. He better be a genius on that team. He was shit, it was to the nigga dog shit at the Ravens. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 13:13

So what happens if Harbor makes the Giants look like amazing next season? Then I gave him props. So whose fault is it at this point? Who's I think for the Ravens?

SPEAKER_00 13:21

I mean, he knows he was on his way out, so he kind of like you said, he was playing, you know, chess and we were playing checkers. So at the same time, he knew he was on his way out, so he knew what you know what players he was gonna get, you know, and the position the Ravens was gonna be after, you know, he left. So I felt like he played it to his advantage, and I felt like we still got a better team than the New York Giants.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Yeah, we should be a good one.

SPEAKER_05 13:40

You know what I'm saying? Giants, you know, so far, a very, very successful uh free agency. I think they're gonna do amazing next season, like I predicted. I'm thinking like an eight-nine season.

SPEAKER_04 13:53

The Giants, eight, nine season?

SPEAKER_05 13:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 13:55

Scatterbowl, we got Scatterbowl, we got big neighbors, neighbors, Isaiah Likely now.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

I mean, you gotta think, you gotta think the division is not really that too stacked.

SPEAKER_05 14:08

You got the Jets, Eagles, like I told y'all before that defense kind of scattered. Yeah. Cowboys, we'll see what they do. I got Cowboys got a good core, actually.

SPEAKER_02 14:19

So look, we we we we have a lot of bad things to say about the Ravens, right? So, what is one thing you guys as Raven fans is like a positive as of right now?

SPEAKER_04 14:30

Lamar hasn't signed the extension, by the way. Oh, yeah. We still got Lamar too. We still literally we still have Lamar.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

We still have Lamar. So but what if the character said though? What if he doesn't sign that extension?

SPEAKER_00 14:39

That's fine. We still got that gives he he into uh 2020, he into this year, absolutely, and but he's not gonna go anywhere. You think Lamar's gonna do his people like that? He's not gonna do his people.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

I think he's already done what he wanted to do, you know what I'm saying? He's already rep like showed himself as a Raven.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

If he wanted to leave, he would have been out the door by now.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

But but the we can't sit here and say ravens haven't been, you know what I'm saying, some genuine contenders. They have been these past years. Maybe that's what's been pushing Lamar to stay. But let's say now, from what I'm hearing, there's more negatives than positive in this uh this offseason. So when are y'all gonna put the blame on Lamar?

SPEAKER_05 15:16

That's my big question.

SPEAKER_04 15:17

What is there to blame?

SPEAKER_05 15:18

But you mean he's the one carrying the offense? Lamar is a great regular season player when it comes to the playoffs. He tends to play a little bit below his standards. His standards.

SPEAKER_00 15:29

He always performs in the past couple seasons. This hasn't been his fault.

SPEAKER_05 15:32

11 turnovers in the playoffs in the last couple seasons. That's fine. Big time quarterbacks don't turn the ball over. Sam Darnold just won the Super Bowl. How many, how many, how many turnovers do you think he had this this postseason?

SPEAKER_00 15:42

Okay, but we weren't talking about Sam Darnold winning a Super Bowl, you know. But he did it. He was never in the conversation. Yeah, shout out to him. He did win it. Absolutely. But when we're gonna talk when are we gonna start talking about when we're gonna start giving the same energy to Josh Allen? Can we answer the question, though? We're gonna talk about Josh Allen. Josh Allen is too much. Okay, but can you answer the question? How many turnovers does Sam Donovan? He might have turnovers, but he's the Sam Darnold. The final place has never been his fault. That's the identity of the hit. The final place has never been his fault. To answer your question, zero.

SPEAKER_05 16:18

That's my that's my point. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

And that's what great quarterbacks do, in my opinion. In the postseason?

SPEAKER_00 16:22

So Sam Darnold has zero turnovers? This postseason is too.

SPEAKER_05 16:29

It's the whole postseason. Okay. That's what it takes, bro. That's what I'm trying to say. Absolutely. I get it. You want to say you want to praise Lamar, you know, he's y'all quarterback, generational quarterback, all that, but at some point the finger has to get pointed at him. You guys have to. You can't, you pointed it at John Harbaugh, he's gone. But if you pointed at Zay Flowers and he fumbled against the Chiefs.

SPEAKER_04 16:49

The thing is, you can't really point the finger at the one who's making it happen. Without Lamar Jackson, I'm not gonna hold you. I think the Ravens get more cap space. We're still about to be OC either way. But I think he's the team, bro.

SPEAKER_05 17:00

That's not the point. If you want to say he's the team and he's the he's a head, he's the captain, he's leading the team in turnovers as well. What are you going to basically?

SPEAKER_00 17:13

It's really not. Nigga, he's the first one. It's really not. I'm like a whole thing. It's really not. It's really so have you not seen our defense? It's really not our defense.

SPEAKER_05 17:21

Except for last season, yeah, the Ravens held playoff teams to what? It was 16? Do you know how many do you know how many points the the Chiefs gave up in the pla in in uh in the in the postseason? They averaged 24 points plus. That's what their defense was giving up. No. The last four or five seasons. That's what they've been that's what they've been giving up. The Ravens have had a historically great defense, and they just, like I said, the turnovers, the tornovers, the turnovers.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

The past two, three years, the defense in the Ravens have been absolutely trash. No. Especially last season. I mean, especially last season. I saw I said, except for last season. Okay, so we're talking about two or three seasons before. That season against the uh the Chiefs. I mean, I mean the past is not because we're in the present. We move we're moving on, we don't have hardback anymore. We haven't played without hardball, and we're gonna see what happens. We'll see.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

But listen, any player, and especially in any type of sport, just like in NFL, just like NBA, soccer, if you're a generational player and you know you're one of the greatest in the world, you're gonna make something shake, even if it's within nine years of an organization you're in. Let's think about the biggest players we know. You know, they've always made something happen in their team, despite of how bad the team around them is. Like who?

SPEAKER_04 18:38

Don't say Mahomes and don't say Tom Brady.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

You talking about NBA? No, I'm talking about just in general. Like my my thing is like this. Look, despite a player being in a bad organization, they always make something shake, or they always have a trophy under their name, despite how bad the team around them is. In any type of sport, we can talk about soccer, NBA, um, NFL. So I feel as though that's why we had to hold Lamar Jackson to this standard. Because we're he's this generational player, which Ravens fans don't fail to the say, right? And I mean we've seen it. Let's not sit here and lie. I mean, they they're not. It's been nine years since we can't he can't really vote on the MBS.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

They don't leave the MVP for no reason. You just don't win the MVP, not being the best player in your team and the best team player in the season. So, like, what are we talking about? No, no, this is the same thing. It's not all just Lamar.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

You gotta hold every other QB to the same standard as Lamar. Y'all wanna say Lamar's not doing this? It's because y'all don't hold him the standard against other QBs, though. What other QB that's been nine in 10 years, and what the hell are they won? The past 10 championships has all been Mahone's, Tom Brady for the past 10 years. Who else won that shit?

SPEAKER_02 19:56

I mean, you got Jalen Hurts.

SPEAKER_04 19:57

Jalen Hurts, okay, that was one.

unknown 19:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

You got Sam Darnold, that was one.

SPEAKER_04 20:02

There's not uh you got Matt uh Matthew Stafford, that was one. Nobody else has been 10 years in you. I won't hold Lamar to this. He's not doing this, he's not doing that. Nobody else wouldn't share. They don't talk about Josh Allen. Okay, but they don't know.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

I've never heard Josh Allen, I never hear Josh Allen critics like this. But folding too.

SPEAKER_05 20:21

This is the D V OA double crown, number one overall, and number one uh overall defense. This is just a stat almost like the the 50 50-30 rule or 50-20 rule. But 1985, the Chicago Bears, they won the Super Bowl. 1996, uh, the Green Bay Packers won the Super Bowl. 2002, the Buccaneers that won the Super Bowl. 2013 Seahawks won the Super Bowl. 2023 Ravens lost in the conference championship. Okay. And if you want to blame that game on who you want to blame it on, Zay Flowers? Sure. 2025 Seahawks won the Super Bowl. My point is, great quarterbacks make it happen. You want to blame Zay Flowers? Lamar had a couple turnovers in that game as well, so you got you gotta blame Lamar. My point is, you want to praise Lamar for having the MVPs being the best player in the regular season, cool. But great quarterbacks with great defenses make it happen.

SPEAKER_04 21:19

Does he not have a clutch in the last minutes of the game? But he made the play and made it happen.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

In that perspective, in your perspective, he made the play happen. Zay Flower had the ball. Unfortunately, he fumbled it. Is that Lamar's fumble fall because he he he didn't, you know, he in the plays before the prior to the game?

SPEAKER_05 21:36

I remember that game very clearly. Lamar didn't play his game that game.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

He didn't, he didn't. And we're not gonna sit here and say he did, but he made it happen.

SPEAKER_05 21:43

But the one chance that he did got when he got to the conference finals, he didn't seal the victory. That's the point. That is the right thing.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

It's not a one man team.

SPEAKER_05 21:52

It is not a one team team. It's not a one man team, but he's the MVP. He's the MVP. When the Chiefs are down, and when the Chiefs need a touchdown, who are they looking at? First of all, they're not looking at um Travis Kelsey, they're not looking at um Isaiah Pacheco, they're not looking at Xavier Worthy, looking at Mahomes to make the play and make it a few. He makes the play. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_04 22:11

But Lamar is making the play. And niggas like Mark Andrews want to have butterfingers at the one-yard line. I just want to do that.

SPEAKER_05 22:16

You can't put that on Lamar. And you want to bring that up, but Lamar had a couple interceptions that game to cause that game to even be a small thing.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Who was the best player in the World Cup versus uh France versus Argentina when Argentina won? Who's the best player? In that game. Mbappe. Did Mbappe win the World Cup? He he has won the World Cup, though. But did he win the World Cup? He has won the World Cup. I'm just talking to him. He didn't win that one. He didn't win the World Cup that game, right? He tried, he did everything he could. Why couldn't he win it? He's done a one-man show.

SPEAKER_05 22:49

It wasn't his day, man.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

It wasn't his day. He had a hat-trick.

SPEAKER_05 22:52

But my prop my point that you're missing still is that Mbappe had a World Cup before that game. Yes. So which meant he got there already and did that.

SPEAKER_00 23:00

Lamar hasn't done it yet. Exactly. What I'm trying to get to is just that it doesn't matter. It doesn't depend on the on the on the game on the on the game. It depends on the on the on the other players.

SPEAKER_05 23:11

It's a team effort. We're going to agree. Let's agree. The greats make it happen. That's my point. The greats always find a way to make it happen. Lamar is one of the greats. He just hasn't made it happen yet. That's fair. That's my point.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

No, absolutely. And we're going to, you know, he doesn't have a booth, so we're not going to say that.

SPEAKER_05 23:24

This is LJ 8 going into year 10, so we'll see if he can make it happen this year. I highly doubt it, but you guys, I'm sure you guys probably have your hopes.

SPEAKER_04 23:31

We just had Josh Allen fold on national television.

SPEAKER_05 23:36

And I don't appreciate you bringing up Josh Allen. For you to be comparing your quarterback with Josh Allen, it's just kind of shows where you got taken.

SPEAKER_04 23:43

No, no, no. Lamar. Lamar is going to be a little bit more. We gotta repeat it. We gotta repeat the episode. Every time y'all bring up Lamar, y'all bring up Josh Allen.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

Josh Allen's, I mean, who's uh Lamar Jackson's closest competitor?

SPEAKER_04 23:56

So you're saying is it Josh Allen or is it Patrick Mahomes? Who is it? Tell me which competitor? I would say more so Josh Allen. And that's the problem. So you're saying that you're comparing more Patrick Mahomes.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

It's not Patrick Mahomes.

SPEAKER_04 24:07

We have been able to beat Mahomes yet.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

And then Josh Allen can't beat Mahomes either. So they're not even. So that doesn't matter, but that means you're putting yourself on the same pedestal as Josh Allen.

SPEAKER_05 24:17

But I'm saying y'all could view Lamar above Josh Allen. But obviously you're not because you're comparing him to the show. I mean, you can't even because they both have a fun motion. You guys should compare the biggest. Okay, versus Patrick Mahomes. But now it's shifted to Josh Allen versus Lamar because Mahomes lapped him. So if you don't compare Josh Allen to Lamar, who do you compare Lamar to? That's what I'm saying. Before it was Lamar to Patrick Mahomes. Okay. Patrick Mahomes lapped him. So now they brought him down, and now they're talking about Josh Allen.

SPEAKER_00 24:45

I mean, Josh uh Patrick Mahomes hasn't been playing well this past couple seasons. He hasn't, but he has the silverware to tell y'all niggas to quite.

SPEAKER_05 24:51

How many does he have again? I don't like silverware.

SPEAKER_04 24:53

If we're talking who is the better player, Josh Allen or Lamar, I'm picking Josh, I'm picking our soul. But that's not the question, though. You see what she just said? I'm picking Lamar Jackson. Camera, zoom in the case. He just put the cross into it. You're talking about postseason.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

No, we're just saying, what we're just saying though is like we're not comparing Lamar Jackson with Patrick Mahomes, because Patrick Mahomes is in a different league. Right. Lamar Jackson's closest competitor is Josh Apple.

SPEAKER_04 25:17

But that's what I'm saying, though. When it comes to postseason, there's only so many names that pop up. It's not like everybody's dominating postseason.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

That's not saying Lamar's still not generational, but it's just saying he's not on Patrick Lamones. Patrick Mahomes' notes. Patrick Mahomes has three rings. Let me know. So of course.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

You've got to be after Patrick Mahomes as the best quarterback. Before? Right now. Right after. After? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:38

Like who has achieved within Patrick Mahomes?

SPEAKER_00 25:40

Doesn't matter about achievement. No one achieved that. He's on the back of the league Patrick Mahomes. That's what I'm saying. But you guys, you're just full of. Just answer my question. Who's the question? Who's the best quarterback in the league after Patrick Mahomes?

SPEAKER_02 25:52

Yeah, I know where I stand, man. I mean, I I view these two as Lamar Jackson. It's all depending about the season they have because they're really neck neck to neck. Lamar is just Lamar. Lamar and Josh has been neck to neck for years, bro.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Lamar has great seasons back to back to back. Just because one play, he doesn't, you know, one play doesn't determine how great of a player he is. That's all I say. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

I mean, they both have more in common than what they have in differences, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_05 26:15

All I have to say on that to end it off is Lamar Jackson is one of the greats. He's gonna go down the history as one of the best quarterbacks in history to ever play the game. He just has to show us why he belongs in the history books. The MVPs are cool, you know, all that shit looks sweet, but we need the real silverware. And let's talk about someone who has gotten the real silverware and is trying to get his silver.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

Right before you shift into that, because I can't let you I can't I can't let it slide, you know. Hey, shout out to Lamar. No, I can't let that slide. Crushano Ronaldo, he hasn't won a World Cup. Does he have to prove that he does he have to win a World Cup to prove that he's the best player in the world? First of all, I'm just asking.

SPEAKER_05 26:52

I'm just asking I'm gonna answer your question. Let me answer your question. Cristiano Ronaldo is currently playing in the Saudi League, trying to bust his ass to break a record because he knows deep down inside he is the second best player in the history of football. The best player in the history of football is Leonel Messi. Ronaldo is playing this World Cup, dying and praying to win it because he knows without that World Cup, there is no argument to his claim to the best in the world. Ever.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

There's people that can agree to disagree to your argument, but can you ask him? So Ronaldo is one of the Does he need to win the World Cup to prove that he's one of the greatest in the world? He does not. So do you think that Argentina had a better team than Portugal in order to win the World Cup? Has had in the past couple years? Sure. Okay, then that's it. Okay, but look. That's all I have to do. It is a team effort, it's not a one-man show.

SPEAKER_05 27:44

So I'm great that we mentioned this because listen, Ronaldo has countless Silver Wars champion leagues, Ballon de Oros. Come on. But he wouldn't win Real Madrid, though. He wouldn't win Real Madrid.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Cristiano Ronaldo hasn't won the World Cup. Why? Because it takes a team. It's a team effort. And Ronaldo hasn't had the order to win.

SPEAKER_05 28:09

So Lamar's compared to Ronaldo and Messi is compared to Patrick Mahomes. Thank you. Just prove my point.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Well, I mean, I would they're I don't say they're superior. I'm just saying to each his own, right? To each his own. If they if if Messi won a World Cup, that makes it better than Ronaldo. That's their tenure, right? I can find you a million, a billion people out there in the world that can probably agree to this.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

But no, look, before we you you agree with those people, check their IQ because sometimes they're IQ is so good.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Well, I mean you're gonna tell me Ronaldo, you can't agree that Ronaldo can be the best player in the world? No. No, not anymore. That's fair. Not anymore. Not anymore? What is Messi doing? What do you mean? I mean everybody has to go down the line. Yeah, bro. We don't want to go down that mode again. How many world uh Champions League does Messi have? He doesn't have the same Champions League that Ronaldo. But Messi, Messi is not a good idea. I'm just saying, right? He doesn't have the same, right?

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Okay, so okay. So it's like not having something and having something is two completely different things, right?

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Right. So Messi doesn't have the same amount that Ronaldo has in Champions League.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

He has a Champions League, though. He has four.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

But he doesn't have okay, but that's a but that just brings me back to my argument. No, but then it depends on the team.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't have a World Cup. If Cristiano Ronaldo did have a World Cup, he has something. Messi has Champions League in his trail.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

And to finish this, so we can shift to your, you know, before I cut you off, like I was asking him, and he answered my question. Argentina has a better team than Portugal. So in order to win something, you need a great team, which Ronaldo hasn't had a great team. And that's it.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

And like I said, I don't want to go back and forth with you right now, bro. But Portugal. Portugal has, if you look at the lineups right now for the World Cup 2026, Portugal has a far better squad than what this year they have pretty much. We mean this year many, many years ago.

SPEAKER_05 29:51

Portugal plays better without Ronaldo. Argentina can't survive without Messi. There's a huge difference. Let's not let's not do that.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

I mean, first of all, Di Maria carried the fucking World Cup. Yeah, to the World Cups. Other than Messi's penalties, what did Messi do in the World Cup? Seven goals and four assists. Yeah. How many of them were penalties? Seven goals and four assists in the world.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

The most GA in any type of player in any type of world. Seven goals.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

How many of them were penalties? Right fans, IQ level. How many were penalties?

SPEAKER_05 30:23

How many were penalties? Did you watch the games? How many were penalties? You don't have to answer that question. Don't stoop down to that level. No, we watched the test. Exactly. The eye test never fails. It never fails. That just shows me your stats ass nigga. It's not even about stats though.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

If we were talking about stats, Messi is far better than in goal differential than Ronaldo.

SPEAKER_05 30:44

I don't even I'm not falling for the bait, bro. I have two eyes that God gave me that work perfectly fine. I watched the game of soccer. I played the game of soccer. I know who the better player is. It's not a conversation I have to even do.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

I don't even know how we shifted from Lamar Jackson to Cristiano Ronaldo. One play wide case.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

In general, they get the facts status. Four goals out of seven were penalties. Okay. So, meaning all were penalties.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

So, okay, now look. Now let's say Messi miss all then. What y'all was gonna say about him? Oh, he can't make penalties. Well, we don't want to excuse on top of that. Alright, I guess. It's all good.

SPEAKER_05 31:16

Next, next segment. Yeah. Moving on to a player who has proven and has the silverware to talk and sit with the greats. The best player in the league. She goes Alexander. The best player in the league. Currently. Yeah. No, I am not saying that. I feel like I'm going to go. A few episodes ago. We were sitting here in dialogue, and a couple of my fellow podcasters were telling me about a player named Luca Donkits. I'm not gonna, you know, beat a horse while he's down. Luca's going through a lot right now. Obviously, the mental side of the game is not there. He's going through a a divorce with his wife. Um he's been liking IG model's pictures on Instagram. As you should. Probably gooting at home at nighttime. Lakers are, I think what, fifth, fifth in the in the Western Conference. He's not having a good year. He's not having a good year? I think that's what the Lakers need to do. Luca's a winner, bro. He's strong as shit.

SPEAKER_04 32:21

Come on. But I've The Lakers record is terrible. It is terrible, but the thing is, Luca needs to first, he needs to get, you know, he needs he needs to make friends in the coaching staff. He's having trouble with with uh it's not about friends, bro. No, he he he's not he's he doesn't have chemistry with the with the coaches.

SPEAKER_05 32:36

He's just like you know that one player on the field is always bitching to the ref, like complaining, like, oh my god, he found me like I'm not falling for it, trust me. But his team is constantly playing 5v4 basketball because he's on the other end of the court on the floor complaining, bitching to the refs, getting technical. It's just it's not it's not good basketball. But we're gonna move the competition to the MVP. Um well deserved, by the way. Well deserved. Um what can I say? Back-to-back buzzer beaters, back-to-back game winners, clutch player of the year loading. The league was put on notice yesterday, and it was yesterday was uh it was Monday. Monday, the ninth? The ninth, yes. Against the Denver Nuggets. By the way, that's the third game this season, though. The OKC I beat the Nuggets. They're not against the Nuggets. The only team that I really am worried about in this playoffs is the Nuggets. And the Spurs? I'm not worried about the Spurs. We didn't get to that. Okay. So the death of OKC is finally showing. Um J Mitchell was back. 23 points off the bench. That tandem of Mitchell, McCain, SGA is gonna be a problem. No J Dub yesterday, no Chad Homegreen, no Isa uh Isaiah Hartenstein. The death of OKC is just ridiculous. Teams are gonna have a hard time competing with that with that 12-man roster. Our third, our third string center is dropping near triple doubles on Yoke's head. Come on, what else do I have to say? But there's one thing though. What's the one thing?

SPEAKER_04 34:14

Y'all can't win all that shit without SGA, fool. He's the MVP for a reason, of course not. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. You're talking about all these third strings and second strings. Without SJA nine, SJ matters, fool. It doesn't I mean, I was.

SPEAKER_05 34:31

What you mean?

SPEAKER_00 34:33

We have a great roster. I mean, yeah, do. And no shout out to OKC. They've been, they've been they've been balling out, and you know, there's not much to say. They have been balling out.

SPEAKER_05 34:41

Listen, Sam Presley's a madman. Hey, Sixers GM, thank you for selling high on Jared McCain. We love that boy. And keep painting your nails. Jared, keep painting your nails. Paint them blue and and and and and and orange, whatever you got, bro. I fuck with that shit, bro. No, we don't support shit. As long as we win in games, keep painting your nails, bro. Don't let these niggas convince you otherwise. Jared McCain has been cooking. It was a good sign. And then we're gonna roll a clip of Kevin talking shit about Jared McCain when he got traded. I remember. I won't forget, bro.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

I won't forget. It's just more like, you know, we we we did doubt him his his consistency and you know, coming off of injury, so that's all it was. And you know, he has been playing well, but hey, there's still he's still got a lot more to prove to us that you know he does belong there, and he he does look like he belongs. So crazy enough, I've seen enough to convince me that we're going back to back.

SPEAKER_05 35:28

And let me tell y'all why. I can see that we can see that. I can't see that actually. I can see that OKC before Jay Mitchell and and and uh Jed McCain, before I seen those two on the floor at the same time, all their shooters, they were very slow. Like they had all their shooting format, like their shooting motions were slow. That was a problem because defenders who are agile and twitchy can easily close out on them. And from what I'm seeing, you can't guard SGA in 1v1 coverage. He's gonna get a double team. And with that double team, someone's gonna be open. And with the right players on the court who can hit shots, it's just a recipe for success. You think nobody in the league can guard SGA? Like nobody at all? I mean, do you think anyone can guard him 1v1? You've seen what happens. Anthony Edwards can guard him 1v1. Anthony Edwards cannot guard SGA all night 1v1 and drop 30 points. He's not gonna be able to do that. You're gonna have to get him off him at some point. Nah, I think he can guard him on this one. I disagree. Okay, we'll see. We gave him a gentleman's sweep last season. Y'all saw it. Anthony Edwards usually guards the best players on the team. That's fine. And he still dropped 30 on that heads. We'll see. In the playoff series is different. The playoff atmosphere is way different. Calls don't go your way, more physical basketball. And let me, I'm gonna point y'all direction into the Spurs matchup. I know that's what you guys want to talk about. Yeah, absolutely. So when the when the OKC Thunder played the Spurs, I kept telling y'all we weren't 100% healthy. The difference maker and the X Factor in that Spurs series will be Jalen Williams, the center, the the center that looks like Duke Dennis.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

And my reasoning listen, we'll have a picture here side by side.

SPEAKER_05 37:01

Put some respect on his name, bro. In those first couple games, I went back and I watched the film. OKC is a very mid-range dominated team, so they love the mid-range game. They they get into the paint. That's where they get a lot of the points when the three ball is not falling. Because you know, on any given night, the three, you they can be shooting bad from three. But when you have a freak athlete and an alien like Wemby sitting in the paint, the mid-range shots are very hard to come by because he's sitting there. He's sitting in the paint waiting for you to come. And with that, our our centers who Wemby would usually be guarding, Isaiah Hartenstein and Chet Homgreen, they don't shoot the ball well from the three. They can't shoot. And they shoot very slow. With Jalen Williams on the floor that brings Wemby out of the paint just far enough to get SGA to either feed through the gaps, feed in, draw on another defender, kick out, it's just gonna be a whole lot more space to work around with someone else who can bring stretch Wemby out the paint. If Wemby sits in there all game, let's be real. I'm gonna be real. That guy, this nigga is doing no-look blocks now, so it's like it's gonna be hard to beat on a seven games.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

You can't deny that they do have great defenders. You got Kelda Johnson, the Stefan Castle. Stephon Castle, the Aaron Falter you want to defend. He, you know, he does. I'm not sitting here telling you. I feel like Spurs is the only this is the most competitive team in the league right now for the OKC.

SPEAKER_05 38:28

I still think it's Denver because Denver turns it up a nice during the playoffs. I will never doubt Nikola Jokic, even though I I believe firmly that SCA is the best player in the league. Jokic is still, even the three to tie the game, or to speak in a one-point game in the last night affair. Nigga hit a uh one damn near one-legged over the back head, like he's hitting some shit that I ain't never seen nobody in this position hit. So.

SPEAKER_04 38:51

But you don't think nobody, I mean the theoretically it does sound nice, bro, but you don't think nobody in the east can like the east? Yeah, I'm just I'm just saying. Nigga, you just say the east? I I know OKC's and West, but I'm just saying, you don't think nobody in the East can bump with OKC? Hell no. Nigga.

SPEAKER_05 39:05

Jason's Tatum, okay, let's talk about that. And I and I really you can't say just Jason's Tatum, he just came back. No, no, no. I was gonna get y'all opinion. So Jason Tatum just came back, right? And obviously Jalen Brown was the number one option for the Celtics this season. He's been in MVP conversations. The Celtics are were supposed to be uh trash this season, everyone wrote them off. But the Celtics are number two seed. Shout out Jalen Brown. Shout out Jalen Brown.

SPEAKER_04 39:31

He saved their season. What you mean?

SPEAKER_05 39:33

I personally don't like Jalen Brown. Actually, that'd be fine that nigga. So yeah, I can say what I want. We've seen what happened in the matchups. But as Jason Tatum coming back, you guys know he was the one before. What do you think his role should be now that he's come back? Same thing as before. He's not a number two option. So you think Jason Tatum should immediately immediately take back his number one role? No. And I think they're both number one options. No. That's not worse, buddy.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

I mean, it's definitely gonna take some time, but I mean they know who the best player in the team is, which is Jason Tatum. So I mean they're gonna shift to him towards, you know, as he get as he start, you know, healing and getting better, but um they've been boat balling out, and obviously if Jason Tatum don't have a great night, they usually should you know either or usually you know end up having a great night, and that's just one thing I've seen from shout out Jason Tatum, he came back and he's still he plays he's playing great defense off of the Achilles.

SPEAKER_05 40:29

That's that's that's insane. Smoothing his feet. I think he guarded uh in that Cavs matchup, he guarded James Harden, um what's his name? Donovan Mitchell kept him shooting. Whenever he was guarding him, he kept him shooting at a 22% rate. Whenever uh he only had six points scored on him in that in that in that matchup against the Cavs. That's a big time show. Because realistically speaking, other than the Knicks, who else are we gonna talk about uh in the East? The Knicks are a trap.

SPEAKER_04 40:58

Pistons that way they've been cooking. Pistons? They are number one, they just lost the five. They're number one. I'm just saying they're number one.

SPEAKER_05 41:04

They they they can't beat nobody that's real.

SPEAKER_04 41:06

I mean, they got that number one spot somehow.

SPEAKER_05 41:08

They ain't they ain't just be the same niggas over and over. I mean, they didn't beat the big teams, that's my point. The teams that they're gonna have to face eventually if they make it far or make they have a deep playoff run, they couldn't compete against them. Getting blown out against the Cavs. But the thing is that they got blown out by the Miami Heat for that.

SPEAKER_04 41:22

Like you said earlier, when it's playoff atmosphere, it none of that regular season shit matters. But the Pistons don't have playoff experience. This is their first winning season.

SPEAKER_05 41:29

I mean, they're going to the playoffs, so we're gonna see the game. Yeah, we're gonna see. But I expect, I'm not gonna lie, depending on who they match up with, you could see a first round exit. I wouldn't be surprised. I can see LKC first round exit. You don't believe that. I believe that, bro. You don't believe that. I think anything is possible. You think a you think we're gonna get a first? Nigga, you know we're the first season, so we get we get we're gonna play like the Warriors. Are you fried? That's your brain. What Warriors is that? The Warriors? Oh, y'all gonna play the Warriors for sure? I mean, that's is that's it's either gonna be like the Warriors, the Rockets, some shit like that. No, Nuggets are not gonna not gonna. We're not back on the Nuggets first round.

SPEAKER_04 42:03

Let me see where the Nuggets at right now. You don't you don't you don't believe that in your heart? You don't know truly I do, bro. I think I a first round exit. I think, bro, it wouldn't be shocking to see a show. No, it's shocking to be shocking.

SPEAKER_05 42:16

I ain't gonna lie, because I think the offensive the defending champions get out in the first round, you're a hater. I think it's playoff isn't it. That's why it happened. That's why your teams don't make it far. That's what the Ravens are seeing.

SPEAKER_04 42:28

The fuck? Do we not look hungry? What a number one seed again. Do we not look hungry enough? That's what I'm saying. If an underdog team is facing a number one team, they're hungry and they want it. It's all about who wants their more that night, right? And do you think we don't want that? Are you? I'm not saying I'm just saying who wants their more. Anyways, we never know until we see.

SPEAKER_05 42:42

One last thing about OKC before we get off this topic. Another reason why I'm very confident in OKC to go back to back, we had a lot of injuries this year. We're like, we have the number number one team with the most injuries to our starting lineup or to our to our lineups in general, our rotation. And our role players are having to step it up earlier this season, which is gonna help us during the playoffs, because we all know Shai's gonna get a double team. We all know J Dub, he's coming off injury, he's not he may not be as sharp or as you know in touch as he usually is. So we're gonna need those players to come in off the bench and score points. And because we've been injured for so much of the season, these players are already playing with confidence. They've already found their roles, they're already moving fluidly. I'm seeing McCain look like he's been on the team for two years. Like, I'm very like I'm honestly I'm no glaze, I'm very impressed. I'm very impressed. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying. I tell you, Mitchell, first game back in about 20 weeks, 23 points off the bench against Denver Nuggets. Come on, bro. We can't I ain't get that bit yet. We can't we can't take that for granted.

SPEAKER_04 43:45

But I'm just saying, bro. I mean, on paper it does sound nice. I guess it's a Disney story, whatever the case is. But but when it comes down to it, you really got a hoop in the playoffs when it really matters, when it's seven games, you win one in the counts, that's when it really matters. Okay. They're playing good right now. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not saying they're not. I'm just saying playoffs, like you said, postseason. That's what matters. We'll come back to this. Are the Lakers making the playoffs? I think we're making the playoffs. No, I I think that there are other teams that are way better, for sure. Of course they're right. He's a course.

SPEAKER_05 44:13

That's not that's giant. That's not Lakers are sitting at what fifth place in the conference. Of course their team's better than they are.

SPEAKER_00 44:20

And look, yeah. Sitting at fifth place, playing the way, you know, they haven't been playing great basketball. I still think it's not a bad place. And they might not be a playoff contender, but you know, LeBron is on his way out. I feel like they can build around some way around Luca. I don't know if he's staying there, because there's rumors of him going back to Dallas. Well, I think Luca and Austin Reeves are gonna be the next tandem for the Lakers. So, you know, I feel like you know, LeBron plays a big part of it. You know, I feel like he hasn't been, you know, really focused on winning. I don't think that's what it is. I think the Lakers play better without LeBron. Yeah, I think so too. I know that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I don't feel like he hasn't been focused. You know, he's on his way out, he's you know, he's thinking about retirement. And, you know, may Luca might may not be in his best season, but he's still dropping numbers. I mean, he's dropped 26, 44, 26, 27. He, I mean, he's averaging averaging at least 28 points, 29 for 30 points.

SPEAKER_05 45:10

So like when you have a player who both players who are ball dominant who need the ball in their hands, like LeBron and Luca, and who both don't really play as great defense as they used to, it's just kind of hard.

SPEAKER_00 45:21

That's the issue. LeBron doesn't need the ball in his hand anymore. You know, but he needs someone to make the game easier like Luca. And I just feel like, you know, they got players like Kachimura, which is you know, he's not super consistent. And I mean, I feel like they have to, you know, they have a lot to build. There's a lot of people. And you don't need a center. Y'all center is pathetic.

SPEAKER_04 45:38

Yeah, no, DeAndre is jumping ass as fuck. I'm not gonna lie. DeAndre Aiden is ass. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00 45:43

I mean, he's been playing pretty well, he's been playing pretty well. You know, when he wants to, he plays pretty well, but I mean he's just not consistent, and I don't think they're DeAndre Aiden playing might be the worst center I've seen the Lakers had in a in a while.

SPEAKER_05 45:55

If you if you might as well keep Anthony Davis, bro.

SPEAKER_04 45:58

Yeah, nah, but yeah, we might have hold you. But I think if you let LeBron sit out, you let Luca and Osurith ball out, and then you get not even Andre Aiden, bro. Fuck that nigga.

SPEAKER_05 46:09

I think Jackson Hayes plays better than than Aiden. He's more hungry. He may be like more raw and like needs a little bit more help or guidance or coaching, but Yeah, I mean, but he gets I mean he gets dominated every time in the pain.

SPEAKER_00 46:21

And Aiden doesn't get any nigga. He is like I mean he's soft getting no boards.

SPEAKER_04 46:26

I've seen that DeAndre Aiden he gets his water bottles taped and has to say like monster juice on that dish, like when they were.

SPEAKER_05 46:40

Like, that's ridiculous, bro. Can you imagine? Like, bro, the like if he was a superstar player, like he'd be getting clowned right now. Yeah, bro. I mean, I think the wizards, they got a good spot. Speaking about the wizards, Jesus Christ. You about to go to the game after we leave Dubai? Hell no. They just let fucking Bam out of Bayo score 83 chicken nuggets on their head.

SPEAKER_02 47:04

How the fuck Bam out of Bayo out of all players in the NBA. I let Bam break COVID. You let that man be in the history book. No hate.

SPEAKER_04 47:16

Bro was injecting steroids in the locker room. That's the only way for that.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

That's you know how you said anything can happen? That's literally it, bro.

SPEAKER_05 47:22

Hey, shout out to the Nigerian brother, man. 83 points on any given night. That's not something easy to do. He definitely was stat padding because they were up 30 points.

SPEAKER_00 47:31

They were like, You should 30 points in. There was like two minutes left in the game and he was still in.

SPEAKER_05 47:34

Hey, Sportstra, you're nasty for that, man. You're disgusting. Nasty work. No, why? You should have pulled him out that game.

SPEAKER_00 47:40

Yo, shout out to him. I wouldn't want him to pull me either. Yo, I wanted to let me get my points.

SPEAKER_05 47:43

That man's jersey was soaked, man. All I know is Asia about to give it to him tonight, man. Because for a long time, they were saying that nobody can pass Kobe's record.

unknown 47:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:51

For a long time. All I'm gonna say is if SJ ever shot 43 free throws, it'd be they'll be calling that nigga Al Qaeda, they'll be calling that nigga Osama bin Laden. Oh, bro. The little Arab. That's all I want to say. But I mean, I'm gonna be honest.

SPEAKER_00 48:08

I mean, if they're fouled, they're fouled, but I mean the wizard's gonna stop, Bam. Let's be honest.

SPEAKER_05 48:14

No, we were talking about Alex Saur and saying he was saying a promising prospect. Hey, bro. Hey, hey, barbecue chicken. They were trying to say Alex Saar is gonna be better than Chet Homelin up in the next coming season. I don't want to hear that ever again, bro. His interior defense is it probably is like a 23 on 2K. Like he was getting barbecue fried out there all night, bro. Alright, 43 free throws is OC. There's one more player, too. I don't know. Hold on. I think he's like a uh a Sims character or something. Let me pull up this one again. I ain't never seen this man ever in my life, bro. What's his name?

SPEAKER_02 48:50

You think with a superstar old-time team and you're around it, do you think you'll be able to drop 83 points? Oh, for sure. Is that what did you say? All of us. Oh, hell no. Let's go one by one. You got LeBron, Michael Jordan, Curry, everyone around you, right? You got four of the best. Who's your four who's your four greatest basketball players? Wait, who'd you say again? Let's just say, right? You got LeBron James, Steph Curry, Michael Jordan, and let's put Shaq. And you're in the fifth player. Yeah. You think you drop 83 with that team?

SPEAKER_04 49:28

They're all playing defense, I'm dropping 100.

SPEAKER_02 49:30

And they're d and they give you the ball every every minute.

SPEAKER_04 49:32

I'm dropping 100 for sure.

SPEAKER_05 49:34

You, Trevor? There's nobody in this setup that's dropping over 20.

SPEAKER_04 49:38

See, that's right. Niggas like to speak their thoughts on other niggas now, bruh. What you gotta say to you, bruh?

SPEAKER_05 49:45

I'm being as realistic as possible. If anyone has the best chance to drop the most points here, is playing defense. Lagon is playing defense.

SPEAKER_04 49:53

Michael Jordan playing defense. So you're gonna play 1v5?

SPEAKER_00 49:59

So you're gonna play 1v5 in the office?

SPEAKER_04 50:01

No, they're playing defense. All I'm doing is guarding my nigga going one-on-one. No, but you're on the shit. I'm I'm waiting for the ball at halfway line.

SPEAKER_05 50:15

I guarantee you he's still smoking at least three layups. Why don't you?

SPEAKER_04 50:18

I'm telling you, bro. You think you're dropping at least 83 points? If you got the best four, well, guess best top five, you're nigga in the all-play defense, yes, bro.

SPEAKER_00 50:26

No. Steph Curry can't play defense. Uh, who else you mention? Uh LeBron James. LeBron James, I mean he plays defense whenever he wants to play. Michael Jordan doesn't play defense. What? No, he doesn't. The thing is not that good.

SPEAKER_02 50:41

I'm not even talking about defense. They can score how many points back in defense are we going to do? I'm talking about offense. You gotta score 82 points.

SPEAKER_04 50:47

If they don't gotta score, and I'm the main thing. They pass you the ball. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

I'm talking like LeBron takes on three.

SPEAKER_04 50:53

He says, if I can take as many shots as I want all game long, yes, bro. I'm scoring 100 points. What? Y'all think it's bro, if they give you the right here, Georgia, just score. Score.

SPEAKER_02 51:04

Now let's say, let's say, okay. LeBron drives to the, you know, to the rim. He takes on three defenders. He passes it to you. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 51:10

You think you can make 100? Bro, I'm making at least 40% of my shots, bro.

SPEAKER_02 51:13

And okay. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:14

So you break the cap.

SPEAKER_02 51:16

You breaking Bam's record?

SPEAKER_04 51:18

Shit, I have to.

SPEAKER_02 51:20

That's my question. Yeah. You got it? You got it?

SPEAKER_04 51:23

No? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

You trev?

SPEAKER_04 51:25

I don't know. You? What about you? I don't think so either. Shh. Yeah. I don't know what to tell y'all.

SPEAKER_02 51:30

Where that confidence comes from, bro.

SPEAKER_04 51:31

Shit, you gotta believe in yourself, girl.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

I think it's just your birthday moment. Maybe that's what.

SPEAKER_04 51:35

It is what it is. Shout out Marsh Babies, man. Shout out to you. He can barely even guard me talking about dropping target. Oh, don't worry about it. I beat him last time we played. Oh. I let him.

SPEAKER_05 51:43

Are you there? You know, sometimes you gotta let him go.

SPEAKER_04 51:45

Don't say you let us know.

SPEAKER_05 51:47

You can't let you can't you can't beat up Lil' Bro on the time, man.

SPEAKER_04 51:50

She was strong as shit up.

SPEAKER_05 51:52

I was shooting, I was shooting, I was shooting up for one. Playmakers, if y'all want to see us play 1v1 on video, we can do that too. We can do that for sure. And don't forget, too. Hey, this is on camera. That's fine.

SPEAKER_04 52:07

We can do that for sure. Playmakers. Y'all let me know who y'all got. 1v1. We're going to seven or ten. Whatever you want. That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

We're gonna get that down.

SPEAKER_05 52:14

Yes, there's.

SPEAKER_02 52:15

And before y'all even do that, you get you know you.

SPEAKER_05 52:17

So what does the loser have to do? You wanna call me on on camera? You're gonna get punished, brother. Leg wax. Leg wax. That's too soft. Ballhead. That's too soft.

SPEAKER_00 52:28

Y'all wanna tell them about the punishment that the playmaker Kevin, playmaker Rose gotta do? Oh yeah. Oh my god. How do we let that guy flip? You can't forget about that one. Once again. He has a punishment, exactly. Once again. We gotta get that one out the way first.

SPEAKER_05 52:40

We had UFC picks and of course the mascot of the group didn't get anything right. What did you have? Listen, one of the fights was rigged.

SPEAKER_04 52:49

It was rigged. I couldn't. Which fight?

SPEAKER_02 52:51

Which fight, Kevin? It's breaking down.

SPEAKER_04 52:53

It was Michael. No, not Michael Johnson. Was it Michael Johnson? No, speaking. Speak your mind.

SPEAKER_02 52:57

Speak your mind.

SPEAKER_00 53:03

Yeah, it worked. We listening to it. It worked, eh?

SPEAKER_02 53:10

Come on, we put subtitles.

SPEAKER_04 53:11

We put subtitles because it don't work. It's gonna be uh Dover. Dover who? Fris and who? Dober Who? I forgot the cuzz name. He's not really big time. You should have said his name, bro. You know what I'm saying? But Dover, you know what I'm saying? He threw the fight. I heard he was getting paid under the table and shit like that. Dover? Dover through the fight, bro. Michael Johnson. Michael Johnson. Michael Johnson. See, they're trying to bait. They're trying to bait. But yeah, they threw the fight, you know. I should have been three for five. Unfortunately, Max Holloway let me down.

SPEAKER_05 53:38

You was still lost, though, if you were three for five.

SPEAKER_04 53:40

Nah, because who you had? Yeah, Joe.

SPEAKER_05 53:42

The same picks as you.

SPEAKER_00 53:43

Mmm. Yeah, I would have still lost. I went four and one.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

You did not go for a one.

SPEAKER_00 53:48

I did win four and one.

SPEAKER_02 53:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 53:49

My only fight was the Robo.

SPEAKER_05 53:52

Okay. I went four and one. Did not go for a one. My only fight was Drew Dober. Well the clip. Give me Gregory Rodriguez. Second fight, give me Michael Johnson. Third fight, give me Raul Rossas. Fourth fight, give me Kyle Brio. And fifth fight, give me Charles DuBron.

SPEAKER_00 54:18

Well the clip. I wasn't in the clip, but they know my pick, so yeah, it's all on the clip, bro. Hey, that's why that's why you're here.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

Nah, I went three and two. Fucking booty chees. I had um went three and two? Yeah. Wait, who lost for you? Yeah, I went two and three to let y'all know. Oh, okay. Y'all went two and three. Nah, but who lost though for you? Who lost for me? Um, I had RDR.

SPEAKER_00 54:43

And RDR looks so bad, huh? You didn't have Chandler, you had Olivater, right?

SPEAKER_02 54:50

No, I had Oliver. Yeah, I had Oliver being Max. Oh yeah. Um, who was the set the fight before RDR arose?

SPEAKER_04 54:57

I mean you got you got Greg, you got uh Robo, Dover, Rose, RDR.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

Oh no, yeah, what 4-1? Come on now. Okay, uh my bad.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

You lost because of of of RDR? What?

SPEAKER_05 55:09

How do you how do you?

SPEAKER_02 55:10

You called it too. I you I remember last episode you say you don't see you can see a boring decision. Um born like for cow. And I mean I just I just thought RDR will close the distance better and use his elbows, but he tried. He did he did better than I thought. Never bet on that, bro.

SPEAKER_05 55:27

RDR is gonna beat, he's gonna beat the the people who can't who don't have a jab. If you don't have a good jab, you don't have a good stand-up, he can beat you because he's gonna close the distance. He's gonna eat as many strikes as he can just to close the distance and hurt you. But when if you have someone that's smart, that knows what that's what he's gonna do, he's gonna avoid that at all times. Kyle did not want to clinch with him at all. At all. He didn't want to, he only took him on the end of the round because he was gassed at the third round. But that was you should have gone five and five. That was a bad read. I'm disappointed in you, well.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

I mean, he hit him too.

SPEAKER_04 55:57

You should have gone at least better than that, bro. Why are you giving people bad picks? Hey man, all you gotta do is stay tuned for the next picks. I can tell y'all. That's all y'all gotta do it. There's always another opportunity. I'm gonna come up with a method. Whatever Kev give us picks, just feed Kev. Why do you think who goes first every time? That's fine. Guess what though? For the UFC White House card, I'm gonna go first.

SPEAKER_02 56:20

Just remember to skip that point. The losing picks first. Yeah, losing picks first. So losing pick first. Where can Kevin and Shiroze where can we find that that punishment that we're gonna do for you guys?

SPEAKER_04 56:34

We can find it on Instagram, Facebook, um, you can also find it on TikTok. TikTok. Ooh, I almost said Twitter. It's Twitter coming soon though. You wanna run it? I'm gonna run it. For sure. I'm gonna run it. I don't run it. Shout out Julian. Um and if you want to listen to it, you can also put it on Spotify and Apple Music and uh what else? That's it? That's it. That's it. That's cool. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 56:58

And what I I feel like you can also find other platforms on those social medias just like DMV Drives, okay?

SPEAKER_04 57:06

For sure. DMV Drive. You tell me you just got a car from DMV Drives.

SPEAKER_02 57:10

Man, we just sold what a 2022 2022 Mercedes? It's mine now. It is yours. I won the bid, the highest bidder. So thanks to DMV Drives, you got a Mercedes. We're gonna put it up in the socials very soon at DMV Drives on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Thanks to them, I was able to get a beautiful 2022. So I was saying we sell luxury cars too.

SPEAKER_00 57:31

People don't think we sell luxury cars. They don't think we sell the new cars. But I mean, hey, if you got the money, come see us. We'll find it for you. We got it. Hey, if you got the car you want, we'll find it.

SPEAKER_05 57:40

I don't know what's luxury if that car's not luxury.

SPEAKER_00 57:42

Absolutely. We're gonna post a picture. You know, if you want something a car like this, you got the money, let us know. We'll find it. Right price. It was a great deal, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 57:50

Bro, the best I can find in the city, yeah. Are you happy with your with your deal? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:54

When you go back to DMV drive, yeah, yeah. If you post up on your girl with that car, she's a goner.

SPEAKER_02 58:00

She's my mind. Shout out to DMV2. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:06

Lady, you're about to find out what he's driving. You know, if you want a car like his, or you know, if you want to ride in his, you know, shout out to him.

SPEAKER_05 58:16

Never know.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

Yeah, five people. So if you see if you see me one day with it and you see Playmaker care with it one day, just know. It's not the same way.

SPEAKER_00 58:28

So shout out to y'all, man. Shout out to DMB Drive. We will leave the link below if you guys are looking, you know, for your next car. Instagram, Facebook, uh and Instagram. TikTok, TikTok. TikTok, TikTok, we can't forget TikTok. Yeah, TikTok. Link below. Shout out, check out their inventory and find your new car there.

SPEAKER_02 58:45

Of course. And we might be doing a giveaway for a t-shirt. Absolutely. Yeah, we will be.

SPEAKER_00 58:51

So we'll post the shirt here and we'll we'll post the the giveaway, how you enter the giveaway soon. You know, we'll leave the all the descriptions at the bottom. And yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:01

Nice. Okay, awesome. Thank you to our sponsors. And before we end this beautiful episode, I just want to say, man, I I appreciate all of y'all for real, man. Yeah, they I feel like you too, bro. You know what I'm saying? The people watching here, I know they they sometimes appreciate us, but they don't understand, you know, what what goes on behind the scenes. So, you know, we make this happen, right? For sure. Yes, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Cheers to that. Life is a blessing. Amen, bro.

SPEAKER_04 59:27

What's what's one message y'all got? Uh I guess one message y'all got for the month of March.

SPEAKER_05 59:32

Month of March is full of blessings. I pray that month is, you know, resourceful, successful. Take pride in it, you know, do what you want to do. Chase your dreams. Don't don't be shy, don't be timid. Put yourself out there, take risks, man. We out here, we got one life to live. You gotta take risks, make sure we gotta make it happen. Amen. That's all I have to say. Couldn't agree more.

SPEAKER_02 59:53

My my message to March, man, is like I had I just had my grandparents come from Guatemala, and I look at them, man, and they don't know, you know, what is ahead of them, you know, and I feel as though that's how everyone should live their life. It's like like an old person. You don't know when you're gonna be gone or when you feel gonna stay another day, you know what I'm saying? So you gotta cherish that and cherish every single day because I feel as though when you cherish every single day, you start acting a certain way, you start acting grateful, you start acting like you can do more. And I feel it, I feel like if everyone had that mindset, the world would be in a better place. So I think the playmakers podcast, we're here to push that. I know we push a lot of sports, but we also push to push for you to chase your dreams. So make sure you do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:41

No, my message is all I gotta say is you know, keep striving for greatness, you know, keep striving for for more in life, you know, stay positive, you know, keep pushing every day to day, you know. You know, life is not easy, you know what I'm saying? But you gotta stay strong and keep keep a positive mindset. And hey, keep God in your life. Most importantly, keep God in your life, keep God first, and you know, everything's gonna work out.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:03

And hey, good luck to all ya. Sir, I'll probably say take everything day by day. You know, everything got a plan, God got a plan for you. Shout out, Georgie. You know what I'm saying? And uh every obstacle is a lesson, you know, just preaching and move forward, you know what I'm saying? For sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:19

With that being said, then ladies and gentlemen, we out from Dubai, live from Dubai, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:24

So we're gonna go enjoy our night over here. So you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:27

Yeah, I know the night life in Dubai is trace. With the Shisha, are we out now? Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:34

Got it, I got it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:35

I rampage Jackson's buttons.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:40

I'm spanking I'm spanking shit right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

That's how it should be.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:45

I'm gonna look. You still gonna look? Uh they might win. I don't know, but