The One About DCOMs

Join Becky and Amber as they take listeners on the ultimate nostalgic ride through the glittery, dramatic, and delightfully iconic world of Disney Channel Original Movies. From the unforgettable choreography of High School Musical to the spooky charm of Halloweentown and the infectious energy of Zombies, this episode dives headfirst into the Disney magic that shaped a generation. Packed with hilarious banter, deep-cut trivia, behind-the-scenes stories, and passionate fan moments, the hosts celebrate the evolution of DCOMs from cult classics to full-blown pop culture phenomena.

Along the way, Becky and Amber rank their favorite franchises, unpack the emotional themes of friendship, identity, and growing up, and spotlight the creative forces behind the movies — including legendary choreographer and director Kenny Ortega. Expect surprising fun facts about stars like Zac Efron, Dove Cameron, Vanessa Hudgens, and Olivia Rodrigo, plus stories about filming locations, soundtrack dominance, and the legacy these movies left on Hollywood and Disney fandom alike.

The episode also features a wildly entertaining game of six degrees of separation connecting Disney stars to Milo Manheim, emotional reflections on fandom culture, and dreams of attending Disneyland’s Disney Channel Night in full DCOM-inspired fashion. Whether you were singing along to Camp Rock, obsessing over Descendants choreography, or secretly wishing you could attend East High, this conversation is a heartfelt celebration of campy storytelling, unforgettable music, and the timeless comfort of Disney nostalgia.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Hello, everybody. Welcome back to your favorite new podcast. Fangirls of a certain age. And yeah, that would be me, one fangirl of a certain age. And then I got a sidekick over here.

SPEAKER_03 0:39

A sidekick? Oh, I mean, I'll take it. It's me, Amber. I'm here, as always.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

Equal side, equal parts to the same, uh, to the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

Right. We don't have like a hero and a sidekick. This is just a team of sidekicks, a duo of sidekick?

SPEAKER_00 0:55

Lion King one and a half. The sidekicks might be.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

Okay. Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. I don't want to know who's Timothan and Poomba. I think that we might uh trade off. Offensive. I mean, I'm not, I don't mean like literally or physically. That's rude. Who's more?

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Who's bigger? Who's more gassy? I would oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

I would never.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

See, that's why I like I feel like it's interchangeable. Some days I'm Timon and some days I'm Boomba, and back and forth we go. And back and forth we go.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Um, all right, everybody. This is going to be a super fun episode. I am in the driver's seat this night, this day, whatever time you're listening, um, because we are gonna talk all about decomms, Disney Channel original movies. Um, and if you are, I mean, any time in the last 40 years or so, uh, if you are familiar, um, those are the movies that appear on the Disney Channel, have launched the careers of many, many, many, many people, and are just, I don't know, cotton candy of movies, right? Just fun, fluffy, airy, I guess, in some cases.

SPEAKER_03 2:13

I've got a lot of feelings about decoms that I didn't know I had.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

And I'm told Amber has thoughts, everyone. I've got a box memo today that Amber has thoughts. So uh stay tuned. Stay tuned. Um, but as always, we are going to start with our fangirl 50. Hit it, girl.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

Alright, so my fangirl 50 this week has kind of uh came out of nowhere. Guys, I'm obsessed with bookstores right now. I can't stop. I can't stop. I ever since I've gotten on this book kick, obviously this has been an ongoing thread, so I've been trying to read more, but I did this thing about like two months ago where I just put a thing on Instagram, I asked for recommendations, I got a whole bunch of recommendations, and it's been going really well. Where I'm just like, I'm not taking like shots in the dark anymore. Like, you know, you go to a bookstore, you pick up a book, and you're like, oh, this sounds great. You take a chance on it, and you're like, that was a waste of my time. I didn't like that book. Well, doing the recommendations, most of these books I've at least enjoyed reading, even like some I like more than others, so this has really taken me on a journey. I've been going to my favorite used book bookstore, uh uh Bright Light Books in Orlando, like every other week. And I'm just bringing books back that I don't want, giving them back to the used bookstore, getting new ones out, bringing them home, keeping them on my bookshelf if I like them. And this past weekend, I went out with fangirl Dana, who's one of my very good friends, and she's a huge reader, huge, huge reader. And she was like, Well, why don't we go to Bright Light Books together? And I said, Great. And then we saw this thing where someone did a book crawl in Orlando where they went to a couple of other independent bookstores. So we were like, let's do that. So we only had like three on our list that we were gonna do, and then we found out that it was independent bookstore day. We had no idea that we had planned our bookstore crawl on independent bookstore day, and let me tell you, we fell in love with all of these bookstores. There's so many great ones in Orlando, and because it was that special day, they had like book swag and they had sales and all sorts of fun stuff, and I was like, I want to be in a bookstore at all times. I don't know what it is comforting to me. I like I just like the idea of buying a book, and I came home that day with 13 new books, and even yeah, since then I bought another book that I couldn't find. I was looking, and then today after work, I was like, you know what? I just heard about a spooky independent bookstore about 25 minutes from my house. I'm gonna go to it. And I went all by myself just because I was like, I can't get enough. And then I found a book there that I was looking for this past weekend. I love bookstores, they're cozy, they're comfy, I just love them, and I that's what I have been obsessing about. I'm like, how soon is too soon to be like, let's do another book crawl. I just I love it. Tomorrow? Like, I don't know, I'm not here to judge it. As soon as I can. And I started a new book.

unknown 5:20

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

A new series. I started Dungeon Crawler Carl, which apparently is very popular. I didn't know it was popular. I had read the back of the book before it, like a book some million, but it was a hardback, so I was never able to find a paperback. But I found a paperback on our book crawl the other day, and I started it, and it's really fun. It's like Ready Player One Meets Hunger Games. It's pretty great. I'm enjoying it so far. Those are some high stakes, friend. Very high stakes, exceptionally high stakes. I don't know if you would like this, but you know who does? Fangirl Sam. Oh, shout out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

XOXO Sam. We love you.

SPEAKER_03 6:02

Yeah, he loves it. So anyway, so that's me. That's what I'm Fangirl50ing. I'm a little bookwarm right now.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Alright, alright. So uh my fangirl 50 is it's kind of a uh tip of the hat, if you will, to other fangirls. This is what uh my fangirl 50 is, and I am uh impressed slash in solidarity from across the pond. So the Tangled movie has asked for an open casting call for people, I think was it was like from the age of six to five. It's like all ages. Like all ages, like running the gambit, um, for extras for the movie Tangled. Now, unfortunately, Amber and I live in the United States of America, um, which is a little far from Spain, so we couldn't quite get there. Now we have gotten places in less time, but that one was a little out of our out of order for us, out of pocket for us. Um, but the the videos and TikToks and pictures coming out of Spain for this open casting call was out of control. Thousands of people showed up. It looks like I know it sounds funny, but it's like in a forest that they seem to be in the world.

SPEAKER_03 7:18

Yeah, it looked like they were in the woods.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Yeah. Or like a like like a fairgrounds or something. You know what I mean? Um, and so they all showed up there, and I don't think that the uh folks doing the uh casting call knew quite what to do. So um I'm tipping the hat because you know that was a fangirl community event right there. It's true, they showed up. Yep. Thank you to our European counterparts over there who are doing the Lord's work. And that's my fangirl 50 for today. It was really kind of shocking.

SPEAKER_03 7:49

It was crazy. And it's so funny because it was announced like what, a week ago, two weeks ago, it was very last minute, where they were like, Yeah, casting call, we'll see you next week. And then they had that type of turnout. I was like, that's probably why they didn't give more of a lead time because they knew that if they had given me and Becky just a couple more days, we probably could have figured it out.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

Gotten over the resourceful, we are resourceful, if nothing else. Um, it's fine, it's fine, don't worry. Um, so whatever. Good luck, everybody out there. I hope you get in. Um, okay. So, are you ready to enter the world of decomms? Yes, yes, yes, I am. So uh a little a little BTS, as we like to say. I have been begging my girl to do a decom episode for a long time. Shouts out, fangirl Darius. I got her, I got her. Yeah, um, fangirl Darius loves a decom. He loves a decom. Uh, and in true fangirl fashion, my girl said, Okay, but I don't watch him as much as you do. And she took on the homework, and she has watched a few more than she had before. Uh, and you should see the face that she's making right now. So I she has some big feelings. I can't wait. I can't wait. Oh no. So we're gonna start with the fangirl scale. Do you want to start?

SPEAKER_03 9:10

Yeah, I'll start. Uh it should be said, I think it's pretty clear based off of past episodes. I am a huge Disney fan. Disney animated films. I am like a hundred on that. Uh Pixar, very high as well. So one would expect me to be a decom fangirl, and I am just not. Like, I I'm just gonna say at the top of the top of the episode, I have seen a handful. I actually did the count. There's over 100 decoms, and I have seen 22, and that is mostly a higher number because of the ones I have seen are franchises. Everyone has a blind spot. Yeah, that's most of the bulk of the number. So I would say, like, realistically, I'm probably like a four. There are certain ones that I have a very soft spot for, and ones that I really, really do enjoy, and I will explain my thought process on the things that I enjoy versus the things I think are borderline impossible to watch. They are bad. They're bad, like they are cringe worthy.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

Okay, so this is what I think on on that note. You are absolutely welcome to your opinion for sure. But what I think of that is the nostalgia is high with a if you didn't, I don't even want to say grow up watching them because I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03 10:43

No, I 1000% agree with you.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

I was already of an age when most of them were coming out. But if you didn't kind of go on the journey, let's say, um, I do think that you would be looking at them from like an actual entertainment value space, and yeah, maybe some of them are not from that space.

SPEAKER_03 11:03

Yeah, and I and I will definitely give it that too, is I don't think anybody is a decom fanatic because they're like, oh, they're cinematic masterpieces. I don't think anyone is saying that. I do think that a lot of it comes from nostalgia, and a lot of it comes from just like, you know, cheeseburger film, and it's just fun and and like you said, fluffy. So I am not faulting anybody who's a decom fan. But I think that even younger, I wasn't turned on because I was like, we can do better than this. But we'll talk about it. We'll go into depth because I do think I I cracked the code of what I do enjoy and what I don't. So I will it'll be interesting to get into it. So I would say a four. I would say a four.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Well, that will help me when I give you the list. Um, another little behind the scenes of it all. Uh fangirl Darius and I were trying real hard to cultivate a list of ones that she should watch. And that was really hard, y'all. And if you're a decomp fan listening right now, you would know that it's kind of hard to try to encapsulate what ones should be watched.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Um because I haven't seen a lot of like the classics. Like, I have never seen Xenon, I had never seen Camp Rock. It was kind of like, where do you draw the line? Like, there are certain ones that you have to watch, and we it was hard to figure out which ones were higher priority. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

Um, all right, so for my fangirl scale, I'm a 14. I love Mia DCOM. Don't know what a 14 is? You want to guess?

SPEAKER_03 12:32

Is that Troy Bolton's number?

SPEAKER_00 12:34

It is Troy Bolton's number. Yes! Yay! I'm very proud of you. I'm very proud of you. Thank you. Um, that's only because Ben doesn't have a number and zombies has a zero. Alright, would you like some history? I would love some history. Uh, kind of interesting, actually. Okay, so Disney Channel launched its first adventure into original television programming and movies on 418, 1983. Most people will recognize the movie Tiger Town as being one of the very first. There's a there's some debate on what's the first DCOM, um, but that is the first one that was made under the name Disney Channel Premiere Films.

SPEAKER_03 13:17

Okay, I remember that.

SPEAKER_00 13:18

It wasn't until 1997 that the name Disney Channel Original Movie or DCOMs, as they are widely known, uh, was born. So, of course, since then it has become a cultural phenomenon, creating iconic pop culture franchises, um, and has become a launching pad for some of the most recognizable names in Hollywood. Recently, in March of 2023, Disney decided to drop the word channel and moved to the name Disney Original Movies, creating movies with a more uh mature YA kind of audience um and content in mind, but reverted back to the fan favorite moniker of Dom last year.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

That makes sense. Okay. Short and sweet. I like it. I'm very excited to hear this stuff.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

Okay, you ready for some fun facts?

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Ready. I don't know why I said it like that.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

Um, all right, so Disney Channel made television history in 2007 with their uh largest ratings when 17.4 million, yes, 17.4 million people tuned into High School Musical 2. So this was when High School Musical 2 came out. Oh 17.4 million people. Um, and it also had one of the first interactive elements um for the channel as fans got to decide what other popular Disney Channel star of the time would appear in the movie. So you could like vote on that. Um vaguely remember that. Yeah, do you want to guess who they went with if you can't if you remember? She appears in the very end of the movie end song. I do know it and I don't remember. It's Miley. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

It's uh oh, I I I don't think I would have even guessed that. Interesting. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

Yeah. Um so I I think I voted, let's just put that out there. And in 2007 I would have been 30 years old, so there you go. That's fantastic. It's fine. I did try to comb the interwebs for some that you might find interesting, by the way. So Twitches uh was released in 2005, and that starred Tia and Tamara Maori. Oh, that's a mouthful, huh? Based on the popular book series about twins who find out they're witches. That house exterior is the same house used for Regina George's house in Mean Girls.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

Oh, okay. That is interesting to me because Mean Girls is one of my favorite movies. Okay, very good.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

See, I tried to cultivate this list. Um and this is for fangirl Darius. We feel good about this one. Every single scene in Cheetah Girls 2 was filmed in Spain, even the ones intended to be New York City. Oh, wow. Yeah, so even when they're in New York, they're actually in Spain. Darius and I both enjoy Cheetah Girls 2 better than Cheetah Girls 1. Alright, are you ready?

SPEAKER_03 16:10

I've only seen Cheetahs 1.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

I know, I know. This one is shocking that she's never seen, y'all. You can actually visit Halloween Town, as it is in St. Helens, Oregon, and completely embraces its uh Halloween fame uh from the movie with a spirit of Halloween Town event where fans can explore the town complete with elements from the film.

SPEAKER_03 16:35

I would truly love that, and I have not seen Halloween Town, and that is blasphemous for you. It is and to be honest, like Halloween Town was on the list of things I should watch, but there's also like 14 of them or something. Yeah, there's so many. It's true. So I was like, well, I don't know, maybe I like we're not in the right season.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Maybe Halloween you can watch.

SPEAKER_03 16:59

Maybe Halloween, I'll watch it. So yeah, but I I would love that. Is if I watched it and then went to Oregon, I would love that.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

Okay. Lastly, one area that decom fans tend to spar in um is who is the most prolific director of the decomms. Okay. Have you heard about this? Um, vaguely, not I don't know the whole lore. Okay. So Kenny Ortega is widely considered the king of the decomms thanks to the massive cultural hits of high school musical and descendants. Um, they're not only staples for the channel, but arguably put these genres on the map, right, for the channel, or at least like sent it out into the stratosphere. Um, but then there's Paul Hone, and he is known as the king of quantity. So he has made 15 movies, and counting, by the way, um, with some of the most memorable, such as Camp Rock, Cheetah Girls, and a little franchise called Zombies. So people do actually have big feelings in Spar about that. Alright, so um that's it for fun facts. As we love to do, we're gonna get into our superlatives, and um and then we have a game, and y'all, I'm just gonna pat myself on the back. I'm super proud of the game that I came up with because it took some time and effort. Uh, and so if I'm the only one that thinks that, I'm cool with it because I was really I'm proud of you.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

That's hard. It's hard to come up with these games sometimes because you gotta it is you're the one who always sells. But it's it's it's not always just me. My husband's actually very good at it. So I do have some help sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Alright, my dear, are you ready, Freddie? I'm ready. Alright. What is your favorite movie? Of the decoms, of course.

SPEAKER_03 18:50

Okay. I have two answers. Yeah, because I have one that is my favorite decom, and that's obviously zombies. Zombies is my favorite, but I think like from a I actually think this movie is good, and I actually think the writing is good and the acting is good, and the characters are good, and the story is good, and it actually like I don't consider it a decom because it's it's like higher higher quality, and I mean that in a in like a nice way, like it's just it's a different quality of decom and that's Prompact. Hell yeah. And I know that you're like so good. Like, Prompact is not a decom in my brain.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

It it's legit, and we're not just saying this. We're not just saying that. We have talked about Prompact a few times before um on the channel, lol, um, on the podcast. Okay, disclaimer, we're sort of spoiling any decomms that you haven't seen as we're talking about them, to be fair. Yeah. Um, but there's not really a spoiler to this movie. Um, but as mentioned, Prompact follows the story of Mandy and Ben as they are two best friends going to high school. Mandy really wants to get into Harvard. That's like her lifelong dream. Um, she is a self-proclaimed feminist and has all sorts of big dreams and hopes and wishes, and she gets waitlisted to go to Harvard. And so, in true decom ruse fashion, she decides to get up to um semantics to try to get into Harvard, namely trying to tutor the big man on campus, most popular guy, Graham Lansing, because his father went to Harvard and is a senator, and she's hoping, of course, that he will write a letter of recommendation for her. I'm sure that I don't have to say it's a spoiler alert, but guess what? Stay fall in love. Um, and off to the races that we go with that. So that's basically the biggest. What? Did you say guess what coax? No, I said guess what, folks. What's happening right now? I couldn't stop.

SPEAKER_02 21:00

I was like, did she say coax? Did she say guess what coax? And then just go.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

I guess we'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

If it sounds like Cax, I'm keeping this in. That's just funny. So guess what, folks? They fall in love.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

So while the A plot obviously is to follow Mandy and trying to get her into Harvard, the A and a half plot really is this friendship between Ben and Mandy and kind of how their friendship sort of evolves, and of course, how Ben's life evolves um along the way. And if you forgot, Ben is played by uh one Milo Mannheim. If you if you don't know who he is, look him up. Look him up. He's up and comer. Yeah. Um, so uh what do you love about Prom about Prompact? And then I will tell you what I love about Prompact.

SPEAKER_03 21:52

I I I I I don't think this is a surprise to anybody if anyone's listened to more than one episode of the podcast. I'm a very big fan of platonic friendships. And I feel like too often in movies and TV shows, when there's uh a male and a female that are quote best friends, then it has to become romantic and then it has to become this whole love story, which is fine if that's the story, but I like it when it is a platonic male and female best friend because I am a very big believer in like best friends can be a male, female, or otherwise. They're friends that happen to be a certain gender or not, you know, like and so I like to see that dynamic. And when I first watched this movie, first of all, it's got a lot of John Hughes in it, it's got a lot of 80s references, it's very, it's very nostalgic.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Yeah, literally and figuratively.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

And so it's almost like it's familiar feeling. So it has this nostalgic feeling while being set in modern day, um, which already makes you feel comforting and makes you feel like you belong, even though I was 40 when I watched this. I was like, okay, when is the turn gonna happen where Ben and Mandy are gonna fall in love or whatever? And then, spoiler alert, that never happens. It never happens, and it really does just focus on the fact that sometimes friendships have to change. Sometimes you're gonna go down different paths, you're gonna have different journeys. That doesn't necessarily mean that you won't be friends anymore. It just means that sometimes things have to flex and they have to grow. And I just love that dynamic because you just don't see those stories enough, but you certainly don't see them in like Disney movies or decomms for that matter. So I really, really liked that dynamic. Like they fight, like they legitimately fight. And I liked seeing that that dynamic of the two of them fighting too, because you're like, that is also part of friendships, is that you do hold each other accountable and you do hurt each other's feelings, whether you mean to or not. And so I really liked how that was portrayed. I I found it very relatable and very comforting. Like, and I actually think the romantic plot between her and Graham is totally B or C. Like, because she's the main plot. And I think her and Ben are the like, like you said, like the very next layer of plot. Um, and then her and Graham happen to be after that.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

Well, and I think that's what's cool about it is you could take it for whatever you want it to be. It could be if you're like a romantic at heart and you just want to like watch it from this sort of John Hughes-esque um filter. Again, how many times do I say this in episode again? Get your shot ready. Um, I'm not just saying this. Uh, if you are of a certain age and you love John Hughes, you need to watch this movie. And I'm not kidding. It literally and figuratively um will hit you in all of the feels of a John Hughes movie. Um, and why I say literally is um there are many, many, many John Hughes references along the way. And not just Easter eggs, like part of the plot, actually. Uh I love Prompact. We've talked about it before um because Ben has my heart. I will see where Milo's career goes, but I'm always gonna have the softest of spots for uh Ben. Um and I like you enjoy the fact that we're getting a friendship movie, um, and that it is the A-plot. But I also loved, spoiler alert, again, they both sort of find love, um, even though they both weren't looking for it. And then again, to your point, how their friendship sort of evolves and changes. And I think I hit on a level with with it too, because I feel very connected, I guess, to Ben's sort of outlook on friendship, I guess is the way I would say it. Um there's a sp a a specific scene, uh, I've mentioned it, I think, in another episode. Mandy kind of gets dissed um by Graham and has to call Ben to come and pick her up because she doesn't have a car. And Ben is out on a the first date ever in his life with a girl and Latoya Reynolds. Uh he's had a crush on for a while, like ever, right? Years. Yeah, and he Milo's portrayal of a really nerdy and anxious person um having a crush is adorable. I'm sorry, it's adorable.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

It's so good.

SPEAKER_00 25:59

Adorable. But anyway, so um he's at this dinner and he immediately gets up and leaves poor Latoya Reynolds at the table and is like, I'm sorry, I have to go. And I have a lot of thoughts on this whole scene. You know, Becky loves an anatomy of a scene, but I have a whole lot of thoughts on that scene because um I think it's kind of portrayed to be like, how dare he leave this girl just sitting there, etc. But also Mandy calls crying. Who knows what's going on with Mandy? And the fact that he literally got up from the table and ran on his birthday, by the way, I might add, um, to go get her. But in the car, she breaks down and she's like, I'm so sorry. And again, spoiler, she has been a terrible friend to Ben. And she says at the end, I'm so sorry that I ruined your date with Latoya Reynolds. And he says, It's okay, she understood. And that hit me so hard because that is so me. Because in that moment, you know, as the audience, right, that that's not true. You know that he had to run away. He couldn't even explain himself. He was upset, she was upset, like, and he wanted to make sure that Mandy felt protected and safe and okay in that moment, and not worse for being a bad friend. And so he basically lied, right? And put her feelings first. And then at a turtle events, he actually finally confronts her about that. And when he confronts her, it felt like everything I've ever wanted to say to someone that I've ever, you know, been in that kind of a scenario with, which unfortunately has happened to me often. I could probably give you the entire monologue that he says verbatim because it like it is ingrained in my soul. And then lastly, I really love at the end, again to your point, how they don't become lovers, but they leave to go to college essentially, and then and the last moment they have together, there's kind of a look. And the both the actors, you know, Milo and Peyton, they acted it so beautifully because this look they have between each other, which is very fleeting, it says everything that you would want to say about their friendship, their relationship, and as well as how both of them sort of taught each other about love before they had these other loves on their own, even though it was friendship and familial, even. Um, it was how you love somebody, how you know what I mean? And all of this was said with looks and eyes, and it was just so beautiful. And I again, I've gone on too long, you've gone on too long, but you guys, we can't say enough about Prompact. Um, and as mentioned, it was put under the Disney Channel movie moniker because that's when they started to go into their foray, and you mentioned it, it does feel elevated, it really does.

SPEAKER_03 28:32

It definitely does. I'll I'll be honest, I'll I'll be real honest right now. That entire dissertation that you just gave, you won't be able to describe any other decom like that. You won't. Like, no matter how much it might mean to you, it's just it's a very different vibe, very different standard. Um it's like a Netflix YA movie kind of for lack of.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

But it's a John Hughes, it's a John Hughes.

SPEAKER_03 28:57

Um, and it's and it's it's deeper. It I feel like Prompact actually teaches like life lessons. That whole thing with like La Toya Reynolds and him saying, Oh, you're like, I have to leave because I have to get my friend. Like, no, you can still be a good friend while also not treating another person like shit. But when you're young and you don't know, like you've never had another type of relationship, you've only had this relationship with your best friend, you you go through those growing pains, you have to figure it out. I feel like they try to put those in other decoms and they just come off kind of ham-handed. Um, and I can I'll give you some examples. Um, but anyway, I but I do think that Prom Pact is a very elevated decom. I think you told me. You were like, yeah, it's my favorite decom. I was like, Becky, that's not a Disney Channel original movie. And then I looked it up and I was like, oh my god, it is considered a Disney Channel original movie.

unknown 29:51

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

Because it's that, it's it's different.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

It is. Uh, here's a couple fun facts for you because I said I've got some on all these things we're gonna talk about. Uh Blake Draper, who plays Graham Lansing, is Australian and he booked the role entirely online from Australia.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

Good for him.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

The movie was produced by Julie Bowen for Modern Families. It was directed by Anya Adams, who we talked about uh in our Bridgerton episode because she directed the last couple episodes of Bridgerton. Um, and star Peyton Elizabeth Lee is also credited as a producer, and that is something that the Disney Channel um has done recently to allow some of their actors to make their foray into the behind the scenes and into production, um, which I think is very cool and should be commended, in my opinion. Um this was originally supposed to go straight to Disney Plus, so hence some of the adult themes and dialogue, but it was so well liked by people seeing it ahead of time um that they took it to air on the Disney Channel at the last minute, so they had to amend a few words of dialogue because generally it was intended to be on Disney Plus, and that is obviously still television, if you will. Um, and so they had to uh amend some things. Um, and then lastly, this movie made Milo the 20th actor to act in four or more decomms.

SPEAKER_03 31:10

Oh. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Very interesting. A lot of decomms uh people have acted in multiple, multiple. Alright. Yeah. I think I think we have killed Prompact to death.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

It can't come up again.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_03 31:25

Also, it will come up again.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

Okay, so are you ready for the next one?

SPEAKER_03 31:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Uh favorite franchise.

SPEAKER_03 31:34

I think you know the answer to this one. It is zombies. Um, I will also say, like honorable mention, I do enjoy the descendants franchise. And I think now's gonna be a good time to kind of explain where I think I understood my thoughts on decomms because I was like, why am I so turned off to these? I'm so like literally cringing. So Descendants and Zombies, I do enjoy, and again, not cinematic masterpieces by any stretch imagination. Um, both of those particular franchises take place in mythical, make-believe worlds. Okay. So I feel like the level of believability is already kind of put like in the forefront where it's like, this isn't happening in the real world. There's magic, there's monsters, there's all these different things. So right off the bat, you're like, you're told this this isn't as serious as the other types of settings that we've seen before. So I think that helps me a little bit to uh almost excuse yeah, almost excuses some things. Whereas if I watch something that's rooted in reality, it's a lot harder for me to accept its cringiness.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

So you mean lime soda doesn't actually make zombies? Is that what you're trying to tell me?

SPEAKER_03 32:54

No, it does. I mean, it might, I don't know. It could. So I think that that's part of what I like about zombies and descendants. Now, I do prefer zombies to descendants because I like the idea of descendants, but from a canon person and from someone who knows those characters really well, there's some things where I'm like pushing my glasses up and I'm like, uh, actually, that's not canon to the story, so that doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Yeah, you you can almost be too nerdy for descendants.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

Yeah. And then you get into like the whole Rise of Red and the um turning back the clock, and I'm I'm so confused. But I can't watch those.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

The old ones I'm okay with, the new ones I can't get into.

SPEAKER_03 33:33

I actually I do really like Rise of Red. I do. But it was hard, like, especially when they went back in time and they were like, and here's Maleficent and Hades and and Hook as kids, and you're like, wait, what what time peri what like you and suddenly you're like you gotta think about like, well, did Oridon wait, is this Merlin and Cat? What? So it's kind of hard to follow in that way. But zombies, and here's what I enjoy about zombies zombies is so stupid, it is so tongue-in-cheek, and they know it. Zombies is Dcom's take of a B movie, and they know it. They are in on the joke. So, like, I watch Zombies, and I don't think anybody that has been cast in those movies thinks that they're doing anything serious. Think about it. Even the bad guy, right, in Zombies One, Bucky. Everybody loves Bucky. He's so ridiculous and over the top, and he's so silly, and you're just like, he doesn't take himself seriously. And you're like, you're laughing. The the the coach is a joke. And like I love the coach. He's like, he's like the punchline, and he knows it. He's in on it. Literally, Zed breaks the fourth wall and like winks at the camera. They all are in on the joke, and that's why I like zombies, is because like they know that this isn't like cinema. They're just having fun. And I'm sure the cast is just having fun, but that's the style of the film. That's the style of all of them. It's camp. It's all camp and B movies, and it's monsters and it's weird, and that's why I really like zombies, is because I'm having a good time and I'm not like sitting in my seat cringing about these weird, like these storylines or how these people are responding. Like, it's so fun. I just that's I think that's what it is, is when it's rooted in reality and I'm supposed to like take these characters seriously, and they are so serious, I'm like, guys, let's be real. It's a lemonade machine.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

No boy.

SPEAKER_03 35:52

I watched it.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

It's coming up.

SPEAKER_03 35:54

I watched it. I'm not happy about it. And Fangirl Kelly's gonna be pissed.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

In case you're not uh following the thread, she's talking about lemonade mouth, which is let's call it a cult classic for uh for decomms. It's got good music. I'm gonna give it that. Does it determinate? It's a boff. Get out of here. You stop right now. You don't even know. Kelly? Kelly.

SPEAKER_03 36:25

What revolution are these five? I can't. It's a lemonade machine. It's a shirt that says like down with authority. Get over yourself. Revolution. I'm so sorry. I can't. I can't.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Alright, back to zombies really quick. I actually don't have the same answer as you, believe it or not. I have a I have a feeling. I think I know you're I do have some zombies fun facts for you, and I do want to just mention, of course. I mean, I had to grapple with this because and again, I'm not just saying this. I really truly do love the zombies movies as well. Um I they feel different, as you mentioned, um, and the musicality and the dance is feels different. The dancing is is amazing. Christopher Scott choreographed the first zombies, um, and you might know him from a little movie called Wicked. Um, I mean, he's done, he's done everything you could possibly think of. Um but um I have a few uh fun facts for you. Uh it was originally intended to be a show called Zombies and Cheerleaders and was gonna star Maya Mitchell, who is in The Artful Dodger, um, and Luke Benoard, who is sort of decom royalty. He's been in quite a few decoms. You wouldn't know who he is because you don't watch a lot of decomms, but he has. Yeah, I don't know who that is. Um guess what? Addison could have gone to Olivia Rodrigo.

SPEAKER_03 37:45

Um, because she also auditioned like you know I love McDonnelly. I'd be I don't want to replace her, but I wouldn't be mad about that. I love Olivia Rodrigo.

SPEAKER_00 37:54

I think Olivia landed where she should in high school musical, the musical, the series. But um Addison could have gone to Olivia Rodrigo um because she also auditioned before the role, as you mentioned, went to McDonnell. Um and after many chemistry reads, her and Milo were largely largely chosen for their off-screen chemistry. So while they were sitting there waiting for the auditions to go on, they would sort of gravitate towards each other and just talk, shoot the shit, you know. And the you know, casting and producers saw that and saw the chemistry. And I mean, their chemistry is undeniable. I think they have the most magnetic screen presence and chemistry out of any of the decomms I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_03 38:34

I will agree with you. I will agree.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

To this day, they just belong together. Like it just, you know what I mean? Um, that's why so many people ship them, as the people say out there. Uh, the first zombie movies debuted in 2018 to 10.3 million people. Eliza, played by Kylie Russell, who's also in the uh Jump In movie, by the way, uh, which is a decomp about Double Dutch, was pregnant during Zombies 3 filming, and that's why she's doing an internship at Z Corps, because she was pregnant. And then Milo and Meg, again, as mentioned, were some of the first stars to get producer credit and creative input, starting with Zombies 3, and they've moved into the exec producer role, um, which is the top of the line for producers for the franchise from 4 and beyond. So they are still exec producers on Zombies 5 as well.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

Which is really cool. I think that's awesome that that still gives them the opportunity to be part of the franchise. It's very, very cool.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

Um, alright, so if you haven't guessed from my t-shirt or my uh fangirl scale number, after long debate and literally had to hard think on this one, uh, I chose high school musical as my favorite franchise um for a lot of reasons. I think they're fun, I think they're bubblegum, but what I appreciate is you know, she loves a romantic moment. And for me, it felt like a shift. It was a shift in the decomms in general. We don't get descendants, we don't get zombies, we don't get camp rock, we don't get any of those without high school musical. It introduced musicals back into the lexicon. Um, and I'm a big musical fan, as you know, and that was to me immensely important and exciting that Disney was putting a musical on for children so that children could be exposed to that on the level that they, you know, could be exposed to it. Um, and something for you know theater kids to want to be in, for that matter. I think that is the main reason I love it. I have a lot of nostalgia around it, in case anybody cares. My order is 3-2-1. I just I did oh, I fell in love with Zach Efron too. Um, he wasn't, yeah. So cute. Oh Lord have mercy. Um, so yeah, I think, you know, I I think that's what I would love to say about high school musical. I I like high school musical too, because it does feel like vacation, because it is about summer vacation. I love the music, but again, the music is very musical, jazz, whatnot. And again, you got zombies and descendants somewhat too, which is gonna get you in that more hip-hop, you know what I mean? And I and I really kind of like that sort of better. I gravitate towards that a little bit more, but you just have to give high school musical its due. You can't you can't not.

SPEAKER_03 41:21

And uh high school musical, I also think it brings something kind of important to the forefront in that you don't have to be any one thing, even if like it's what people expect of you, what your family expects of you, or what the status quo expects of you. So I think that that's an important lesson to teach younger kids too. Sharpe, come on, right, she's icon, she's an icon, but like I I like that that whole idea when it when I was in high school, I was lucky I was you know in band and played music my whole high school and college career. But when I the high school I went to, being in band was cool because we had a dope marching band. Our drum major played football, and our um our flag twirlers were the popular girls. Seeing a world like high school musical, I was like, oh good, I'm glad because I know that that's not always the case where people are broken up into these like different segments and this hierarchy in in high school, and so I I liked the idea that they were like, it doesn't have to be that way. You can do whatever you want, whatever brings you joy, whatever makes you happy. Um, it's a good lesson for people to learn. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 42:27

You want some fun facts? Of course I do. Famously, Zach Ephron did not sing for the first movie. Most people do know that. But did you know the voice of Troy for the first movie, Drew Seely, actually wrote the music for over 10 Disney soundtracks, including not only high school musical, but Cheetah Girls 2, Jump In and Another Cinderella story? Oh no, I didn't know that. So the guy that sang actually wrote Get Your Head in the Game. That's a good song. Yep. Did you get your head in the game? Uh Corbin Blue, who played Chad, uh, originally auditioned for Ryan, while Ashley Tisdale, who created the iconic, as we mentioned, Sharpay, auditioned for Gabriella. Now, I have always thought, just because I know you love these folks as well, I've always thought that Sharpay reminded me. I would when she came on the screen, and especially into high school musical too, I was like, who does she remind me of? She reminds me of someone, and I cannot figure it out. What other character? It's Miss Piggy. She reminds me so much of Miss Piggy. Like she is not I know what you mean, unapologetically. Yeah. And the way she loves like all the sparkle glitz glam, and she thinks she's the star of the show. Like, believes. And it really doesn't matter if you believe or not. She also gives Bucky energy, right?

SPEAKER_03 43:44

But you see what I mean though? Like, yes, she is over the top in that way, but Sharpay's also like mean. Like, there, like, there's a lot of moments where she's like mean. Bucky's never mean. He does like mean things, but you're like, oh, Bucky. You goofball, you know, like it's just it's such a different feel. So, again, rooted in reality and rooted in this make-believe place.

SPEAKER_00 44:08

Uh, and the iconic New Year's Eve scene in the first movie that started it all, it was snowing, but in actuality, those were potato flakes. Uh that sounds good, right? Have a little mashed potatoes all over the ground in a minute. Gross. Uh you can visit iconics. Yeah, right. You can visit iconic sets from the movie, including East High, which is a real school in Utah. Um, and the Inn at Intrada in St. George, Utah, where the High School Musical 2 movie was filmed, and many people, still to this day, you can go TikTok search right now, go to act out the scenes from the cult classic Bet on It that Zach Efron improvised himself in about three hours. I've seen ones where like daughters have sent their fathers to go, you know, do I think I've seen one of the father ones and like cry laughing and like, you know what?

SPEAKER_03 44:57

Good for them. So funny.

SPEAKER_00 44:59

Bob Iger was so impressed by the early footage of the movie that he upped the marketing budget. Uh Zach and Vanessa dated for the duration of all three movies, which is pretty huge. While Ashley and Lucas famously, Lucas, I'm sorry, plays Ryan, her brother. Lucas Grabial. Ashley and Lucas Grabiel famously did not get along at all in the first film, but became friends after that. It doesn't show. I know, right? Yeah. This one is wild to me. The high school musical soundtrack was the top-selling album of 2006, beating out such classics as Future Sex Love Sounds by Justin Timberlake and B-Day by Beyoncé. And the Hannah Montana soundtrack was also in the top ten that year. So it goes to show people kids have a lot of pull, but can you imagine the high school musical soundtrack was the biggest thing?

SPEAKER_03 45:55

I was like Beyoncé, I'd be so pissed.

SPEAKER_00 45:59

Isn't that crazy though?

SPEAKER_01 46:01

That's why I'm not.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

I'd be like, we're all in this together. Really?

SPEAKER_00 46:05

And lastly, just for you, Amber. Since Halloween has been the setting for some of the DCOM's most successful movies, some execs were pushing for High School Musical 3 to be all Halloween and supernatural themed. And they got vetoed. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_03 46:23

That is a bummer. Although I agree the third one is my favorite. That one went to the theaters, everybody. And Sotten theaters.

SPEAKER_00 46:31

Same.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

I have a fun fact. Vanessa Hudgens.

SPEAKER_00 46:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 46:40

I know her very well from her voiceover work now because she is the voice of Sunny in the new My Little Pony movie that came out on Netflix. So I knew I learned her voice very well because my son loves Sonny from My Little Pony. So when I heard that voice on The Masked Singer a couple years ago, I was like, that is Vanessa Hudgens. And she wanted to You're very good at picking those out.

SPEAKER_00 47:06

You're very, very good. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 47:08

She's McDonnelly too. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

Meg was there too.

SPEAKER_03 47:13

Meg was literally like like four bars, and me and my daughter were like, that's McDonnelly. Like it was so, so clear it was her.

SPEAKER_00 47:20

Right? Uh, okay. Favorite song. Because many, many of these are musicals, right? So favorite song.

SPEAKER_03 47:27

Yeah. So I am a fangirl of a certain age, so I do whatever the hell I want. Uh, I don't have one, and I won't go down like a whole I'm sorry, I don't have one. Like as in I don't have singularity misunderstood. For real? You're like, the hell you don't. Yes, I do. Um, so I wrote uh high school music or high school musical has a lot of bangers, obviously. Uh stick to the status quo, fabulous. I don't dance, bet on it, I want it all. Scream. All just fan scream. I don't think it's enough credit, by the way. I love that that song. But so their entire franchise has a lot of bangers. Um, so I will give them credit for all of those songs. Um, I also am a very big fan of the Descendants soundtrack. The the story and the movies, there's parts that I can take or leave, but they actually have a lot of really fantastic songs. My favorite one is Chillin Like a Villain. Um, and that's a great song.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

Banger. Yep. And I will say this Descendants 2 is I like Descendants 2 better than Descendants 1. I'll agree with you. We were talking about this, you and I earlier. Number twos, I actually quite like better. Other than zombies. December Descendants 2 better, Cheetah Girls 2 better, High School Musical 2 better than High School Musical 1.

SPEAKER_03 48:50

You said Camp Rock 2.

SPEAKER_00 48:51

Camp 2 Rock 2, I prefer. Yeah. Weird, right?

SPEAKER_03 48:55

Yeah, I but Chillin' Like a Villain is my favorite Descendants song. And you were you had mentioned the choreography from zombies. Yes, I do think the choreography from zombies is good. I think Descendants is the best choreography of the decomms. I I stand by that. Their choreography is so good and so insanely well done. Cameron Boise, Rest in Peace, tears up Descendants. Watch Chillin' Like a Villain. I that whole scene of Chillin' Like a Villain with him and Boo Boo, especially, it's so impressive to watch. They their footwork is so incredible. So Chillin' Like a Villain is my favorite descendant song. But if I have to pick like my favorite overall song from any of the decoms, Becky, what am I picking?

SPEAKER_00 49:50

First of all, Chillin' Like a Villain was filmed during a typhoon.

SPEAKER_03 49:55

Oh shit. Wow. Well, they tear it up during a natural disaster. Zombies. It's zombies. Obviously. Ovs. Uh you know this one. I know you know this. Which one is it? I don't. Oh my god. I feel bad. Which one is it? It's Ain't No Doubt About It.

SPEAKER_00 50:17

Oh shit. What the hell? Yes, yeah. Come on, Becky. Yeah, it's a good one. Come on. We literally have just talked about this.

SPEAKER_03 50:24

Like the last couple of song. Oh, it's good. I think it is so catchy. It is so cute. I love the choreography, the scene. I think it's the best song of the franchise, like the whole thing. And then in Zombies 4, there are a couple moments in Zombies 4 where I was like, oh. My little heart was like, you know, bursting for them. But when they slowed down, ain't no doubt about it. Oh my god, I'm gonna start crying thinking about it. That version, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. I love that part. Because it's like because it it's a it's a farewell. They are so intentionally in that scene. Yes. And just the way that it's shot and the choreography and the lighting, and it's just uh like so. I that song, I know people like someday, and obviously, like that's iconic to the whole whatever. Um, a very, very honorable mention for me is literally anything that Zed sings. I love Zed's my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 51:25

Unexceptional Zed.

SPEAKER_03 51:26

Exceptional Zed is a bop, and that has really great choreography too.

SPEAKER_00 51:31

Um, where do we land on kerosene?

SPEAKER_03 51:33

God, no, I love kerosene. I love kerosene. I love kerosene. That's a little that's it's that's my favorite song from four. It's a little bit more. I know, and I and I can understand. I will say, when I first watched Zombies 4 and he started, I was like, ugh, uh, like I was a little like cringy, but then I was like, nah, I dig this, it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 51:54

I actually dig Meg's Meg's bridge where she comes in like so tough. I'm like, okay, Meg, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:00

Here she comes. Yeah. Yeah. Um Alright, what about you? What's your favorite song?

SPEAKER_00 52:06

Uh that I wanted to mention too that ain't no doubt about it. I don't know if people kind of follow the thread that in in the original version in Zombies 3, there's a lot of sort of speak parts that happen, like, you know, but we're only 17, or I hope, you know, did they say. And those are intentionally omitted in the slowdown version because that's what it's supposed to mean, that they now have no doubt. And that the doubt was actually placed in. Did you not know that? Yeah. Oh no, I didn't know that. Yeah, go back and listen now and you'll get it, because the doubts are actually placed in throughout the song. And then there's intentionally none of those in the last one because it's like, you know, obviously they're a little young to get married and go off in the sunset and things like that. And so we're trying to figure out how they could kind of convey that this is a happily ever after, if you will, you know, and that's how they did it. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 52:58

No, I didn't catch that. It makes sense, but yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

And I said to you too that that last scene really struck me because it felt like I I think I told you it feels like when Andy goes to college in Toy Story. It feels you watch the four of them for that matter walk down the hill, and it's the end of an era as it should be, but it's that bittersweet feeling, and yeah, and as a parent and an as an an auntie, right? To Milo. It just felt very poignant, you know. Um, all right, let me give you a couple quick descendants fun facts since that's where we were. It wasn't originally supposed to be a musical that Kenny Ortega signed on, and it was inevitable after that. It was like uh the hell it won't.

unknown 53:41

Right?

SPEAKER_00 53:42

There are over 15,000. 15,000 costumes made for Descendants 2. Wow. Villain. Um, all of the actors that played Pirates in Descendants 2 got matching tattoos. Isn't that cute? You know I love that. I know you like that. I purposely picked these fun facts. This one is also for you, and the last one I have about Descendants. Some of the sets of Oradon Prep are the same ones used for Xavier's school in X-Men 2, X-Men United. You know I have no idea what that means, but I thought you were.

SPEAKER_03 54:16

I do, and now I totally see that. Yeah. Like I'm like, I could be wrong. I would have to do a side-by-side, but immediately what comes to mind is the stairs when they first meet Doug.

SPEAKER_00 54:27

I'm sorry, I have nothing to add to that. However, I will add this Boo Boo Stewart, who plays Jay, Jafar's son, also played Warpath in X-Men Days of Future Past.

SPEAKER_03 54:39

I didn't know that. Um, and was also a werewolf in Twilight. That I did know. And he's in one of the music videos for zombies. Oh, really? There's a song that uh Winter sings. It's not in the movie. Yes. It's like a new guy in town or something like that. Um in the music video, he is the guy that she's singing about.

SPEAKER_00 55:00

I'll have to go back and watch that. Um, so I also have multiple favorite songs. How could you not? Um, in high school musical, I don't even know my favorite song. Like I There's so many good ones. There's so many. I definitely like The Boys Are Back from High School Musical. The Boys Are Back. I love that song. It's so Justin Timberlakey, you know what I mean? Um Descendants uh has bangers, as mentioned. What's my name in Descendants 2? Uh let me also just put a little bug in everyone's ear about a fine man that entered the picture in Descendants 2 called Harry Hook. With a Scottish accent and a set of blue eyes that are killer. Also was dating Dove Cameron at the time. P. S. That's how he got his uh, you know.

SPEAKER_03 55:49

Thomas Doherty is his name, by the way. And there's another fun fact about Thomas Doherty. What? He played a certain florist on Broadway. He did. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:01

He was in little shop of horrors, the same production that Milo was in.

SPEAKER_00 56:05

Oh, we could do a whole decom little shop of horrors. We can go down the line. Yeah. Like it's wild. Yeah. Corbin Blue, Jordan Fisher, you know, Milo Mannheim, all of it. Um, and and whoever's to come, right? Joshua Bassett, which is in the high school musical, the musical of the series. So we can keep going. Such a mouth. It's crazy. Yeah. Um, they know what they're doing over there at the shop. Um, all right. I I do love um Show Me from Camp Rock 2, which is a bop. It's a bop. It's a bop. It's a bop. Um so if you don't know what that is, I'll play it for you someday. Um, and of course, zombies. I love all the music in zombies. Uh Bam was one I remember distinctly feeling the shift when I saw it the first time. I love Ain't No Doubt about it. I really do. Um, but I'm going someday. I have to go someday. And the reason is a few things. Number one, it's classic. Number two, again, it really showcased immediately the chemistry that those two had and the star power. You are right about that.

SPEAKER_03 57:02

I agree with you on that.

SPEAKER_00 57:03

We talk immediately about how when Milo got on the screen, he literally lit it on fire. I don't care what you think about Milo Manheim, but if you've seen these movies, you went, okay, that kid has it. I don't know what it is, but that kid has it. But Meg also, man, the two of them together, it was it was wild. It was like that from the back.

SPEAKER_03 57:22

That scene, like that meet cute, so to speak, that of them doing someday and like them playing together, it is one of the best scenes. Like it's just really, really well done. Again, you can't deny their chemistry. There's no awkwardness about it.

SPEAKER_00 57:36

I don't know whose choice it was to continue that to be the same through line through all four movies, but that I think is why I love it so much. It's because it is the same through line through all four movies. Um, and so when I tell you that Zombies 4 version of Someday, which is about two sentences, wrecked the hell out of me. I was like, what the hell is happening? What am I watching right now? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like, that was some literal stakes shit, you know. I was like, holy hell. I'm sorry, I'm I'm departing. When you watch Milo look at her and his little lip quivers, and you can just again, you can see, yes, these two characters living through this moment, but I feel just because we've all been watching for so long, I feel Megan Milo knowing the end of all of this and feeling that, you know?

SPEAKER_03 58:26

Yeah. Again, it's because it's actual chemistry, it's not for like I feel like they actually really have deep love for each other. And again, whether it's romantic, was or otherwise, it doesn't matter. It's just very clear that they have a very special kindred closeness and it comes through on the screen. Always has.

SPEAKER_00 58:46

Okay, so I'm gonna give you one more question and then we're gonna jump into our game. Are you ready? Yep. Is it hone or is it Ortega?

SPEAKER_03 58:56

Uh for me, I think it's I think it's home. And I I was thinking about this because I was comparing descendants to zombies. I just think that descendants they take themselves a little bit more seriously, which is fine, but I think zombies has more fun, and I think it's it's just more my energy and more my vibe. So I'm going with Hone.

SPEAKER_00 59:21

Um, I also agree, and Kenny Ortega is a prolific person just in general, um, and does a lot of Broadway stuff, and that's to me what the difference is. It feels very Broadway, which I love. P.S. I love, love, love. And again, you can't deny that he basically got this all off the ground. But yeah, I think Hone too. Because also he does a lot of stuff that you haven't seen, obviously, but he's responsible for a lot of the like a straight play, let's call it, right? But the straight movies with no music and stuff in it, too. He's done quite a few of those as well. He just has a formula that works, he gets it, and he knows how to get what he needs to get out of these kids. Okay, before we play the game though, I am going to give you two minutes to count him two to give me the discourse that you would like to give me on whatever it is that you watched that you could not believe. I think we heard a little bit about Lemonade Mouth, but I'm gonna give you your due and I'm gonna allow you this this time. You have the floor.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:16

Okay, I'm gonna try to speak really quickly because I know that we've talked a lot about high school musical and zombies and descendants, and I know that that's like of a per of a particular time. I feel like we haven't touched on any of the older stuff that we haven't really gone into that. To be fair, I don't really have a lot of fun. Yeah, you don't have much to say on it, that's why. So it's part of why we haven't mentioned it. I have seen some of the older things. I've seen Brink, I've seen uh obviously because Seth Green was in Brink. Um that's fair. Yeah, obviously I saw Brink. Um Double Teamed, I saw. Oh. And I actually liked Double Teamed. Um, and Motocrossed. I loved Motocrossed. I thought that was great.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:54

Oh what a random one for you guys. I know.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:56

Aren't those strange? But those are the ones that I watched, in my opinion, at the right age and time. I don't know if I watched them now, if I'd be like, this is great. But when I was at the right age and time, I liked them. But I didn't really watch a whole lot of them growing up, which I talked about. So I had not seen Camp Rock, I had not seen Lemonade Mouth, I have not seen Xenon, I have not seen a very good lot of them. I think you like Xenon. It's super cult classic. And I think I would like Xenon too, because again, it lives in like a zombies world where I feel like Xenon is campy. I've like protozoa is kind of the vibe. Yeah. So I think I would enjoy that. Um Becky and Fangirl Darius gave me a nice little list of things to watch, but I only had like three days, and I was with the kids and I got busy, so I watched two things. I watched Camp Rock and I watched Lemonade Mouth.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:45

Fangirl Darius did tell her to watch Let It Shine, and I'm gonna put a plug in for Fangirl Darius. Darius, I'm here with you because I had forgotten that one, and it is fire.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:54

So I wish I had taken the time to watch that instead of Lemonade Mouth.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

I like it better than Lemonade Mouth for sure. I'm sorry, Kelly.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:01

I'm not gonna lie, I probably would have liked anything better than Lemonade Mouth.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:05

Let It Shine has amazing dancing. I would call it uh like baby eight mile. Like it's kind of about a kid who is like going to rap battles and things like that. There's a mistake in identity, love situation, and and and whatnot, but it goes from gospel to rap to RB. The songs are fire.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:26

I was surprised that Darius uh did not tell me that it is Mr. Eddie from Abbott Elementary. He did not tell me that. I'm a very big Abbott Elementary fan, and Darius knows that. So if he had said, well, it's Mr. Eddie from Abbott, I would have been like, oh. Um I had no idea he was in a decom. So that was news to me. So here's here's what I'm gonna say. I like the idea of Camp Rock. I like the idea of Lemonade Mouth. They're just, the stories are just not matching the stakes, and so I don't take any of this stuff seriously, and I'm laughing. I'm like, you guys are ridiculous. Uh Camp Rock was a pretty uh predictable story, typical mean girl stuff, which I don't respond well to anyway. It was fine, but I've heard Camp Rock 2 is better.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:13

There's actual stakes, there's an actual plot in Camp Rock 2, other than just going to the thing and learning who everybody is and what they're up to.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:21

So I like some of the music and I love Demi Lovato. Like, I love Demi Lovato. It's too crazy. She's a killer voice, and but I just I just didn't connect with it. And who's to say, maybe if I had watched it when it came out back in 2008, like, yes, I would have still been 23 in 2008, but maybe I would have been a little bit more forgiving back then. What is also interesting that I knew all of the music because of where I work, I hear a lot of music. I just didn't know it was from Camp Rock, so I knew a lot of the songs. I was like, oh, I know this song.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:53

Um so Camp Rock I didn't love, but I watched it all the way through and uh uh I it was fine. But I was like, I I don't understand. I I get why people like it because the Jonas brothers are all on it and it blew up and fine, whatever. They're so babies, they're such babies, they're babies, a little babies.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:12

Little like Justin Bieber hair, Nick's hair. I can't sing all curly hair. Well, in Camp Rock 2, there's a rival camp, and basically, if they want to save the camp, they have to beat that camp at the big, you know, because I was trying to figure if I wanted to watch that as my second one, and then I was like, eh, whatever, I'm gonna move on.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:36

Uh because I was like, I didn't know. It would have been better if I was listening. Listen, I'm not happy about about Lemonade Mouth. I'm not, and I literally I signed on to it because again, Kelly never steers me wrong. She never steers me wrong, and I don't blame her because she is of a certain age, and so she was of a certain age when it came out, so maybe that's why it is more uh uh special to her and had more nostalgia and she connected to connected to it at an earlier age. That's fine for her. I'm so happy. I can't watch it at 41 years old and think that this movie is good. It's terrible. It is terrible. Like, I don't like any of these characters. I thought their stories were silly, I thought they were over the top. Like, I I don't feel sorry for you. I don't think that you're making a movement. Like, sit out, like uh the the bad girl, the the the tough one, super annoying. She's sitting there by herself before she's made friends with these other people, and she won't move for the cheerleader who's like, Can I sit with people I know? Granted, she wasn't nice about it, she was rude, but still, like, why why don't you just be like, Oh yeah, sure, whatever. Like, who cares? You just gotta you just want to be rude? Okay, whatever. So she stays seated, and then the principal, like, nothing is really happening right now, except the principal's just addressing everybody in the gym, and he just says something like, I I Want my students to be strong, or I don't know what he says, but something along the lines where she's like, Oh, you want your students to be strong. Okay, and then she stands up about her stupid shirt, and I was like, sit down. This is dumb. I'm embarrassed for you, and this is all fiction, and I'm embarrassed for you. I just I there was nothing about it that I connected with, there was nothing about it that I believed, and I was just like, I can't watch this.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

Well, here's the deal now that we know your filter, we can recommend some good ones to you. I definitely prescribe Halloween Town. So when it becomes Halloween, you're gonna watch that, and then you'll decide whether you want to move into the franchise more. And the two people who are in Halloween Town are married, actually. I knew that I knew that. Um and Xenon, I think you will enjoy as well. Xenon 1 and 2 are both pretty good, actually, but uh there's a very famous song, obviously, Zoom, zoom, zoom, make your heart go boom, boom, boom, from the Xenon movies. Uh Raven is in those, by the way. Um Raven. Yeah. So Raven. That's so Raven. She sees the future, remember. I loved that So Raven, by the way. That was one of my favorites. She was one of she is so good. She is she was so funny. Her comedic timing was so good. Oh. I'm trying to, just for all my little decom friends out there, I will not take two minutes, I'll take one. Um, but some of my favorites, in case you're curious, uh, I Love Misa Brian Merriman. He's been in a few things. So I do love Luck of the Irish. I think that's a really fun, silly one. Uh I do love uh the Xenons as mentioned. There's Johnny Tsunami, that's a classic, which um I just was reading a fun fact about Johnny Tsunami that everybody thinks that the guy is Johnny Tsunami, and if we all go back and watch the movie, Johnny Tsunami is the name of the guy's grandpa. He is not Johnny Tsunami, but there there's just all sorts. The Lizzie McGuire movie was fire. The Hannah Montana movie. I believe that one is considered a decom. I don't know that the Hannah Montana movie is. You guys, I will do my diligence research and look. But yeah, those were both really, really good. Because the Hannah Montana one. I think Hannah Montana came to the movie theater, if my memory serves. Yeah, I believe it did. Yeah, I believe it did. But the Lizzie McGuire movie has um, you know, some memorable stuff in it for sure. I liked that show too, by the way. I thought that was really cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:27

There was a uh there was a very small window where I was watching them because I was going through the list and I was like, oh, I've actually seen like these three in a row, and that was Cadet Kelly, get a clue, and gotta kick it up. I watched all of those.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:41

You gotta love Cadet Kelly. Um I love Cowbells, which is Allie and AJ. Cadet Kelly is a great one. Um Princess Protection Program, I really like. Uh that's the one that's Demi Lovato.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:52

And Selena. Oh, yes, yes, yes. There's there's over a hundred. I didn't realize there was that many. There's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:59

There's a lot. Okay, do you want to play this game? Let's play this game. Alright. So, guys, I came up with this game. It did take me a while to get here, but I was pretty impressed with myself because it is a la Amber. Amber would have been able to do this in five seconds flat because she's so freaking smart. Uh, but here we go. Oh, you're so sweet. We're gonna play a six degrees of separation, if you will. I'm gonna give you the name of a Disney Channel original movie personality, and you're gonna get me from that person to Milo. Okay. So let's see if you can do it. I think you can do some of them, some of them maybe not, because of course you're you're a little blind spotted, if you will, um, within the movies, but as long as I know who they are, I can probably do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:44

Okay. Now, does it have to, does the starting point have to be the movie that that person is in? So, like if you were to say, okay, Demi Lovato, does the first one that I have to use be Camp Rock? Just the person. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:59

Yep. Okay. Yeah. In fact, some of these could be from somewhere in another Disney entity. If you can get get there, you can't. Oh, they're gonna have to be. Oh, yeah. You can get there, if you can get there. I tried to keep it all Disney Channel just because I was trying to challenge myself. Oh, there's no way I'm gonna be able to keep it all Disney Channel, I'm almost certain. Are you ready? Okay. Corbin Blue, who plays Chad in high school musical, is where you would know him most from, right? So there you go. Corbin Blue. How do we get Corbin Blue to Milo Manheim?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:29

Okay, so Corbin Blue is in jump in, but I don't know what who else is in jump in, but I do know he was in high school musical, so there's a lot of people I can choose from there. Zach Efron was with Zendaya. Zach Efron was with Vanessa Hudgens. Okay, hang on, give me a second. That's okay. Work it out. Process out loud. We want to hear your thoughts. Well, it's gonna kind of depend on where I want to start. Sometimes I work backwards too, like where do I want to pull Milo from? I mean, I could say that Corbin Blue was in Little Shop of Horrors. You could.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:03

That whole cast. That's fine and fair. And Milo was. That's a little too easy, but I will say too easy.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:10

Um, but give me a second, because if I can do it, I think I could do it. Okay, so I think I'm gonna go. Okay, I got it. I got it. I got it. Okay, go. Okay. Corbin Blue was in high school musical with Zach Ephron. Uh-huh. Uh, who was in Greatest Showman with Zendaya. Correct. Who was in Spider-Man with uh Benedict Cumberbatch. Okay. Who was uh-huh. Who was in Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness with Elizabeth Olsen, who was in WandaVision with um Catherine Hahn, who's gonna be entangled with Milo Manheim. I'm cluing!

SPEAKER_00 1:11:49

Yes! Guys, just so you know, BTS, I'm never allowed to clap. I get in trouble if I clap because it's dad's in the microphone, but I had to clap for you. I'm real proud of that.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:59

I'm real proud of that. That's good.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:00

Do you want to know?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:01

I'm sure there was an easier route, but based on the city.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:03

It definitely was, and my favorite part is that you actually said it and you didn't even know. So, Corbin, what did I do? What did you say? From high school musical, right? Uh-huh. Was in Jump In with Kylie Russell, who plays Eliza.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:19

Dang it! You know what makes me mad about that is you said that to me. You were like, oh yeah, Eliza was in Jump In.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:25

You said that to me earlier this week. Oh. Shoot, okay. Well, I'm still probably.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:29

What you did was way more impressive. Way more impressive. I hope everyone's playing along because this is this is just silly fun.

unknown 1:12:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:37

All right. Dove Cameron, who plays Milo in the Descendants franchise. How do we get her to Milo? My this one I have a little a little afraid a little bit. Like because remember, I when I did this, I tried to do this all through Disney only people.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:55

But you can do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:56

But go. I'm I I think I have it, but I'm not sure. Dove Cameron, she was in Descendants of Sophia Carson, who was in My Little Pony, also with Vanessa Hudgens, who is in High School Musical with Corbin Blue, who was in Jump In with Kylie Russell, who was in Zombies with Milo Mannheim. Oh god, I'm impressed with myself. Good for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:22

Yes, I love that. Uh so like I said, that was a better almost better than mine. So Dove Cameron to Luke Benward, who I said before, that's remember the one I said uh I talked about him earlier. He's kind of a Disney Channel royalty, he's been in quite a few. He was in Cloud Nine, which is a Disney Channel original movie with our friend Dove Cameron, and as we just learned, um, he was going to be the original Zed in the pilot for in Cheerleaders. You wouldn't have gotten that because you don't know who Luke Bedmard is, but he's cute. Alright, this one might be easy because you've kind of worked some of it out already, but Zach Efron.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:01

Okay. Okay. Let's see if I can do a different route without using the same thing. Has he done any voiceover work? Zach Efron is in lots of stuff. Oh. You're gonna hate this. Zach Efron was in Neighbors. Yes. With Seth Rogan and Rose Burns. You are so good. Who were in Platonic with Milo Manheim. Okay, you you win.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:35

I fucking love you. Yep, I said that.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:38

I love this game.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:40

Again, I want everyone to remember that I tried to go only Disney Channel way, so but there's no way I could do it. That was so good. That was so good. So mine was Zach to Zendaya and Greatest Showman, as you mentioned. Um Zendaya was also um in Doms, by the way, but she was also on a show called Shake It Up with Bella Thorne. Right. Um and Carla Jeffrey would have had a guest starring role on that show, and that is Brie in the Zombies movies. Oh, oh, that's great. I love that. Yeah. Yours is good though. That was good. That was so good. Thank you. Oh my god. Because remember, y'all, she already went down one route. She went the other way. That was amazing.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:24

Yeah, I wanted to try a different route. I didn't want to keep using the same, it's happened from the same well.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:28

Okay, this one has a bunch of webs that weaves. So who's so Lucas Grey Bale. Grey Beal, sorry. Grey Bale? Grey Beal? Oof. Who is Ryan? I always thought it was Gray Beal, but I'm not sure. In uh Ryan in the high school musical franchise.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:44

Right. Okay. So again, staying in high school musical. We can go through Zach Efron. We can go through Vanessa Hudgens. What else is Vanessa Hudgens in? Lucas Creel. Vanessa Hudgens. What was that show that she was in? She was in a show with Alan Tudik. It was a superhero show. It did not last long. Um use Ashley Tisdale.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:13

Not Matt. That's where my head went, where I was like Verb, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:16

And everyone was in Phineas and Verb. Like that's an easy one to pull too. I'm trying to pick something else that Milo is in that we haven't used yet. Something that we haven't used yet that he's in. I'm gonna use Prom Pact. I'm gonna use school spirits. Hang on. I'm gonna do it through school spirits.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:37

This is wild that you can get all of this. I can't.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:40

This is another parlor trick of mine. I don't know if you knew this, but six degrees is a it's one of my favorite things. My cheat is voice acting. That's my cheat. That is a cheat. If you can get somebody in a voice, then you have a much broader pool together.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:55

All these kids have done a ton. My little pony came up for a few of these people that I'm have on this list, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:00

Yeah. Okay, hang on. I I feel like I'm very close. And I have to do it from Lucas Grabile. That's where we're at. Okay. I was like, hold on, where am I starting? This is where I get muddled. I for I sometimes forget where I start. Are there any adults in high school musical that I'm forgetting about? That's like famous? I don't think so, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:16

Yeah, that's like famous, famous for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:18

Yeah, the biggest ones I feel like are Corbin Blue. Ashley Tisdale did a lot. It's so funny because there's like four ways to get there from this one. I just don't want to use the same people. So I'm just trying to find a different route. Because I feel like Zack Efron and Zendaya are like the best ones to use.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:36

They seem to connect us to quite a bit, don't they?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:38

Yeah, because they've been in so much. Okay, maybe I will use Zendaya and Zack because I can get them to where I want to get them. Okay, so that would be one, two, three, four, five. Okay, I could do it in five, and it's real obscure. They're very obscure.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:54

I love it. Go for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:55

Okay, here we go. Lucas Grabile was in High School Musical with Ashley Tisdale, who was in Sweet Life of Zack and Cody with Dylan and Cole Sprouse. Yes. Dylan and Cole Sprouse were recurring cameos on a little show called Friends. And there was also a cameo in this same show by one Billy Crystal, who voices Mike Wazowski in Monsters Inc. Yes. With Jennifer Telley, who is in School Spirits with Milo Mannheim.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:31

Well, you got there. That was a tough one.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:34

But it's only because I challenged myself that I wanted to do it through school spirits. Uh so Lucas Graebiale, he played Ryan in High School Musical, also had uh a guest star, not just one episode, almost recurring, on high school musical, the musical, the series. Um so there's many ways to get there from that. Yes. So you can go from there to EJ, the character of EJ, who's played by Matt Cornet, who played Alan the Alien. I love Alan Zombies 3. You can go to Joshua Bassett, um, who was on both High School Musical, the Musical, the Series, um, uh as well, and Meg Donnelly was also on High School Musical, The Musical, the Series. And so there you go, there. Joshua Bassett also guest starred on a show called Stuck in the Middle, which was way older than us, uh or way younger than us, um, that starred a little guy named Malachi Barton as the character of Beast, who plays Victor in Zombies 4. Or whose mother, let's go beep, boop, beep, whose mother sings on Dancing with the Stars.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:43

Oh. That's right, you told me about that. I forgot about that. Um, as you were talking, I think I just did it in less. Like, if I was not doing the Jennifer Tilly and the school spirits route. That was a good one, though. Listen to this shit. I'm like that. Here we go. Here we go. Right? Lucas Gribeel was in high school musical with Ashley Tisdale, who was in Sweet Life with Zach and Cody, who was in Friends, who was also in Friends, the particular actor that played Mr. Mushnick on Broadway with Milo Mannheim.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:23

We already said this. We already said this before.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:26

So good. So if you see, if you listen to the Friends episode, that was a fun fact. In the Friends episode, that guy was in, I think, two episodes of Friends as uh one of the directors of Joey's plays early on. But yes, he plays Mr. Mushnick. And also, if you watch Merrill Merrily We Roll Along, the one that's coming, I think, to Netflix soon. It's in Netflix. Uh he plays one of the characters in Merrily We Roll Along as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:50

The same guy. FYI, I turned it on and I turned it off. I couldn't. I'm telling you. Sondheim, baby. Sondheim doesn't do it for me. Alright, you ready? Yes. Sophia Wiley, who I think is drop dead gorgeous. Umiley. So she's a very big Disney Channel, prolific Disney Channel uh girl. She's most mainly known. She basically became the lead of High School Musical, The Musical of the Series once Olivia opted to sing. If you don't know who she is, I will just run through this one because that's fair. Yeah, I don't, I I've never seen that. So she played Gina on High School Musical, the Musical the Series, which by the way is cute. It's silly, but it's cute. Joshua Bassett, who has been, you know, in the at the shop, and Olivia Rodrigo of Olivia Rodrigo fame. Uh Dara Renee is in that, who you know from um. Oh, I do. Okay, I know her, her descendant. So the whole point of that is that like I think you would like it because the musical numbers are fan flip fantastic because the voices are like even leveled up even more than a lot of the other decomps. Um and they don't take themselves seriously. They know what they're doing. That the damn show is called High School Musical, the musical, the series. Like they know they know what they're up to over there. So you might like it. Check it out. So she played Gina on High School Musical, the musical, the series. Um, also went out for the role of Addison, by the way. But anyway, she was a little younger. She also played Buffy Driscoll uh on the show Andy Mack. Do you know who was the star of the show Andy Mack on the Disney Channel? I remember the show, I don't remember who was in it. The star of that show launched her career was one Peyton Elizabeth Lee. Oh. She was like, Oh, I didn't realize that was her. Nice. She has short hair. Alright, are you ready? Uh, yes. I have three more for you. Demi Lovato. And this one again is also you're gonna get a better one than me because my ending is, again, countable, but you'll see.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:53

I was gonna say she's in Camp Rock with Jonas Brothers, and the Jonas brothers are like best friends with Milo Manheim.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:58

No, it's not quite like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:00

Okay, okay. Um, alright. Let me think. Because she was in that show, Sunny with a chance, right? Uh-huh. And I don't know anyone else who was in that show.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:11

Um.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:12

There was a guy who was in that show who was in another decomp, but that doesn't have anything to do with this. Maybe it would, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:18

But what do I want to put Milo in? What else is he in that we haven't done yet? Just whatever you want. You're so funny. Um Dim Lovato. Okay, hang on. Blanking on zombies now.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:34

Torchman. Oh. So funny how seriously you're taking this. I thought you would just not know anything, but I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:40

I love it. I am very close. God, no, I am like fizzling out now. Okay, wait, wait, wait. Oh, I'm so close. Okay. Okay, okay. And then oh, there's so many people in that movie. If I could put him too. There's Kelly Clarkson. There's Pitbull. There's what's his face? What's I trying to connect it to? Oh my god. What's my little man Hyman? Like zombies and school spirits. And who else has been put in Tangled?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:10

Tangled.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:11

Thanksgiving. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:12

What's his name?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:13

McDreamy. McDreamy. Patrick Democraty. Patrick Dempsey. Patrick Dempsey. Okay. That could do it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, go. Alright, here we go. Demi Lovato was in Camp Rock with Nick Jonas. Nick Jonas was in Jumanji with Jack Black. Jack Black was in The Muppets with Amy Adams. And Amy Adams was in Enchanted with Patrick Dempsey, who is in Thanksgiving with Milo Mannheim.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:37

Yes! Sorry, that one took me a while. No, that was good. So here we go. Okay. Demi Lovato of Camp Rock Fame to Selena Gomez, obviously from Princess Protection program, who also guest starred on Hannah Montana as Michaela, a rival uh pup star. And her manager was Cameron Mannheim. What? Yeah. Oh, that's funny. And why is that funny to you? Because somebody's first big major crush, speaking of celebrity crushes, was Selena Gomez. So mom came through. Not surprised. Not surprised. Because mom's a fangirl. She knows what's up. Mm-hmm. Let's go, Cami. I love that. Put whatever you want, whatever one you want, or whatever. Okay, China Ann McLean. So Chyna Ann McLean, if you don't know her name, is Uma. Descendants. Uh-huh. Uma. It's okay if you've used a route already or half of a route.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:32

So China was in Rise of Red with Rita Aura. Rita Aura was on The Mast Singer with uh McDonnelly, who was in Zombies with Milo Mannheim.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:42

Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:42

Yay!

SPEAKER_00 1:25:43

Uh, she's also in a decom called How to Build a Better Boy. Shouts out to my son. He likes that one. With uh, and it is basically kind of a a a retelling of like weird science. They build a boyfriend, essentially. And her bestie is named Kelly Eagland. Kelly Eagland did eight episodes of the Goldbergs. I love the Goldbergs. And who plays the mom? Uh Winnie McClendon and Cubby. She also played another mom in another DCOM.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:10

Yeah, and Prompact! Yeah. That's right. That's right. See, I forgot she was in that.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:18

Alright, and this one should be pretty easy for a lot of people out there if they follow any Disney lore. Lastly, Cameron Boyce, R.I.P, who plays Carlos in the descendants movies. Can you get there? Uh, I think so. It's a pretty simple road.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:33

Yeah. Yeah. There's gotta be some overlap there somewhere. It's really simple, actually.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:39

You just may not know. So Cameron Boyce was on a show called Hey Jesse, where he played Luke Ross. His sister in the show was Emma Ross, played by a Peyton list. Ah, yes, okay, okay. I did know now place Maddie Nears on one show called School Spirits. Alright, my girl, you did very well. I'm very proud and impressed. Yes, that was good. It's a lot of fun. I hope that was fun for everybody playing along at home. Alright, so we should we do a uh fangirl blessed fangirl manifest? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:14

Oh yes, oh yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:15

Okay, do you have a fangirl blessed or manifest? Yeah, go for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:19

Um I'm mine's gonna be a manifest. Um I don't think I've had any like blessed moments. Um I've like been around some decom stars, but I didn't realize who they were. Even though I'm not a huge decom fan, I am a fan of the decomms that I am a fan of. And so my manifest is I, and Becky knows this, I really want to go to Disney Channel night at Disneyland. Like I just I want to go. I want to do the thing with the wand. I want to do the dance parties, and I want to uh have a good time. So I want to do the Disney Channel event that they have at Disneyland. So that's my manifest.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:01

Well, I have a hybrid. I have a blessed manifest. Um and Oh boy. Yep. And no, I haven't really met anybody either that I can recall. Oh, we didn't talk about it, but I have met Sabrina Carpenter, and she was in a decom adventures in babysitting, I believe. Oh yeah, that's right. So there we go. So I have met Sabrina Carpenter. She's very, very nice. She was very, very young when I met her. She was just on the Girl Meets World show. So uh so yeah, I I have met her. I have spent about half an hour with her in a room. Very, very nice. Very respectful, too, by the way. But the but the Blessed Anne Manifest is as such. I too would like to go to Disney Channel Night, and I would like to go with you because I have been to Disney Channel Night, and it is one of the most fun times I have ever had at Disneyland. And it is one of those things where if you submit, right? If you submit and you let go, it'll be the most fun that you ever had. Like I was dancing, my sister and I were doing the dances as best we could. Please let Lord, you know, because you know I can't do the choreography. Um, but I mean they were playing stuff from everything. It was bigger and better this year, uh, and we did not get to go, but so we were ba- uh-ummed. Um, so yeah, that is on the docket for sure for next year because if you're unaware, it is as that's as it sounds. It's an after hours event that Disneyland puts on, and it caters to anybody who wants to go and celebrate the Disney Channel. So they play music. There's a specific uh cavalcade um with um the zombies and high school musical smashed together. It's so freaking good. Um The Sendants uh plays uh in a in a spot. They had Mickey and Minnie in um high school musical uh uh outfits and the cheerleader and uh George Bolton's outfit. Um they have like I don't know what you want to call them, like standees sort of everywhere so that you can take pictures inside of like a Ozzy McGuire thing or a proud family thing or you know, Kim Possible, which was really fun. They have you know treats, of course. There's music playing, the wand ID stuff goes on the castle. It is so much fun. Maybe we could get Darius to come. My god, he would love that.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:15

And Kelly too. Yeah, let's go. Let's do it. That would be such a core group to do that with.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:21

Um like so much fun. I'd even do it two nights. I'd even have you guys come for a few days and we could do it two nights. And the best part that we would commit to, because we love a bit, is everybody dresses up. Everybody dresses up they're like all together as cheetah girls, they're all together as you know, Compossible and Ronstoppable, whatever it is, but um, it is super, super fun. And uh just a lot of Disney adults who appreciate, you know, decalms. Well, my dear, we've come to the end of this episode. Thank you so much for indulging me on this one because I know you're so welcome. I know that you do have a love, but it is not quite.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:01

I do, I and it was fun. I it it was nice to revisit some of my games.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:06

I redeemed your uh I redeemed it for myself with that game. You did very well. And you love it. Oh, thank you. You love a game. All right, my dear. I do love a game. As always, I love you and I love Mila Manheim.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:19

I love you, and I love Mila Manheim. And if you love our podcast, please make sure that you rate, review, and subscribe and catch us on our social media accounts at Instagram and TikTok, Fangirls of a Certain Age. Thanks everybody. We love you. Bye. Love you bye.