Episode 3: THE ROSES

The Roses Review with Special Guest Lexi

In this episode of so I saw this . . ., Tanya dives into The Roses — the twists, the chaos, the character choices, and the moments that had all of us yelling at the screen — and she’s not doing it alone. Joining her is her sister Lexi, bringing unmatched sibling energy, sharp opinions, and the kind of commentary only someone who has known Tanya forever can get away with.

Together, they break down the biggest reveals, the messiest decisions, the scenes that made them gasp, and the ones that made them pause and rewind like, “Wait… what just happened?” It’s equal parts analysis, laughter, and unfiltered sister banter.

If you love deep dives, strong takes, and a little bit of chaos, this is your episode.

Transcript

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Welcome back to So I Saw This, the podcast where we break down the stories we love with equal parts curiosity, chaos, and questionable self-control. I'm your host Tanya, and today, today is special because not only are we diving into the roses, but I am joined by someone who has known me longer than any of you, has witnessed all my character development arcs in real time, and still agreed to come to the mic. My sister Lexi is here. We're talking plot twists, character choices, the moments that made us gasp, the moments that made us yell at the screen, and the moments that made us that made us pause and say, wait, did they really just do that? So settle in, grab a snack, and let's get into the roses with my favorite co-conspirator. Hi. Hi. Alright, so let's talk about the roses. Let's talk about it. What's your first impression? I laughed a lot. Me too. I um I was trying not to compare it to the original. I don't remember the original. I don't even know if I saw it. I realized that when I was trying not to compare it to the original, that I didn't remember the original. So it was kind of easy. But one thing struck me is like their whole relationship from the beginning was very sarcastic. Very sarcastic relationship and very like based on sarcastic humor. Very dry. So yeah. Yep. I think very also very British, which was kind of dry. It worked for the movie because Americans didn't know how to take their humor. So their friends really couldn't see something was wrong. Right. Yeah. And friends. I use that term really loosely because they were not good friends. No, none of them. There was one couple I was like, why are you guys even here? Do you even like them? The architecture couple, the couple that he worked with, right? I think they were more like coworkers than yeah. They didn't seem to be like, they were weird. They didn't like no, they didn't seem to actually like them or each other. Yeah, exactly. So then, like, I think they were in this comfortable place where she was the silly, non-serious one, and then all of a sudden everything changed when the building collapsed. It didn't just collapse, the sail sailed, it imploded on itself and destroyed everything sailboat in the museum. It collapsed. People could have died, all the stuff was ruined. It wasn't a good time, and out went his career in an instant. Yeah. And then at the same exact time, which was crazy and very ironic, her career took off. Right. Because of the storm. Because of the storm, and that critic was in her restaurant when his building imploded. So then their roles are completely reversed. She's used to making all the decisions with the kids. Now he makes them all and gets them into this fitness kick. They were like super humans. They were like superhumans. Literally have superhuman clapping push-ups. Question mark? That's what I have. Well, they got into that Athletic Academy in Florida, which is, I think, comparing it to IMG Academy, which is in Florida. Yeah. I do I think I listened to a podcast about that. Oh, really? I think so. You'll have to share that podcast with me. Yeah, I have to try to remember which one it was.

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Okay.

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And then they don't know what to do with each other after that. Because they don't know how to treat each other after that. Right? Because not at all. Now she has to be the practical one. Well, and I think too, she didn't have anybody questioning how she was doing things. Right, before that. Exactly. And then she didn't give him that same courtesy. And then she also never took her career seriously. Neither did she, to be fair. But she just enjoyed it. Yeah. But then when she really started taking off and she realized, oh, this is like a really serious thing. I could do something with this. He didn't take her seriously, and that pissed her off. Yeah. So that's just like one little piece of resentment. She just put on a piece of paper and chewed and swallowed. Yeah. And then she wouldn't take him seriously after he wanted to get back into architecture. She she wouldn't take him seriously. She was like, but can you get a job? Really, can you get a job? Do you know that Benedict Cumberbatch has that, what is it called? Heterochromia? Something with his eyes. Yeah, they change color and they have different colors in them. It's not the very severe one, like one brown, one blue, but there is something. There are two different colors? There are multiple different colors. I'll have to look that up. I'll have to check that out. I did notice something strange in his eyes. This is really the first time I ever looked at him. Right. Me too. When you watch the movie, depending on the lighting, you can see drastic differences. Differences in his eyes. Huh. Interesting. Yep. Throw that away. Maybe I'll rewatch it. Now you can sleep at night. Now I can sleep at night with that tidbit of information. What else do I have in my notes? She was allergic to raspberries, which was very strange to me. The whole pen situation. But that was almost like her test for him. That's like that was like her test to know if he still loved her or not. Which is pretty toxic bizarre. Yeah. Yeah, toxic. And maybe their relationship was toxic the whole time. I feel like it was. I feel like they just had this, it went beyond just like two naturally dry sense of humor, sarcastic people into like hurtful. Yeah. But I think that's because they kept right. But they kept that's I think that's because they kept eating their feelings. Yeah. Right? They just kept getting full of resentment for different reasons. More and more mean. And they couldn't just communicate. Like that's the key to me for this whole movie. They're with their relationship. The biggest problem was communication. Yeah, they didn't talk to each other. They did not communicate at all. No. The casting was good. I did like these two characters. I think they picked the right people. And even the supporting cast, I think all pretty good picks. Like I probably could have picked other people for different roles, but I think it was good. I loved seeing Alice and Janny. Yes. I like seeing her play the mean bitch lawyer role and then switch over. I like to see her. I liked her dog. The dog. I liked when what's the the guy's name? Indy Samber. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I liked when he told the dog to sit down and shut up and the dog did. You know, when it was just like, oh, okay. Well that worked. I'm a sucker for a Rottweiler with a natural tail, too. It was cute. It was a cute dog. Um definitely have to go back and watch the original again because I feel like the original was I don't even I don't remember in the original if they actually went over like their love story. And you know, I don't know if they went over that. It's like I remember I can remember seeing either a movie poster or at like at Blockbuster, like the cover and seeing War of the Roses. Like I remember seeing it, but I don't remember the movie at all. I remember like I get it in like waves. Like I remember this disaster scene at the end, like when it all comes crashing down, but it was a very different, different feel than how this one ended. Right. It that house was gorgeous. The one he built? Yes. I loved the original house. I mean, it was okay, but that house that those views, yeah. Like, okay, I could have probably done without the Julia Child. Like, you could get a wolf or a you know, something more matter. But I get the sentiment of it. I also felt like he got that. Frame one of the greats. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I felt like he got that for her, just kind of as this grand gesture. I don't know that she really wanted it. No, and he hated it. And what what was up with that table? Like, why do you want a table from the Spanish Inquisition? Or the moss? Why was he obsessed with the moss? I think to so this is what they say about architects all the time. Architects, me being one, not of the building variety, but similar concept. We tell you how to do something, build something without really knowing how to build something, right? So we can build like design this gorgeous, beautiful palatial estate estate. And then the way I've designed it in a picture, it can't be built to withstand the exact point, the sale coming off because it didn't hold. It's engineers are blaming the builder, and the builder's blaming the architect and all of that stuff. So, I mean, it's kind of like their relationship, too. That does make sense. Yeah, right. You architect this beautiful thing, this meet cute story, how they met and everything, and try to build a whole life around it. Around the fact that he got annoyed at dinner and went into the kitchen of the restaurant and she fed him. It was like we had his neck, and I feel like that is violating a lot of health codes. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. But, right? Unrealistic expectations going into a marriage. Happens all the time, I guess. I don't know. I felt like I knew what I was getting into. What was your favorite line? I have it written down. Hold on. I'd be curious to see if it was the same one that I picked. Did I not write it down? I might not have written it down. Who said it? Who said your favorite line? Jesus yourself drunk, actually. When he was on the plane and he got hammered. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And then after another, she'll have another. And I will too. That wasn't mine. Picked my favorite line was she's really good at law. Andy Sandberg's line. She's really good at law. And then when he said real estate, real estate and divorce, it's the same thing. Very similar things. What? Divorce is all about real estate anyway. You know. He's not a hundred percent wrong. Not at all. But yeah, that was I loved that scene, which was like, I was just doing my job. Yeah. He's like digging through for the napkin. And then I'm trying to read my broken finger writing. When the kids call. Yes. That was funny. I know. We're so happy for you. What? They were so offended. They were like, you know, living in misery. We've seen it all this time. You're not hiding it from anyone. At all. And they're very smart children. Yeah. It also took me a while to realize they were twins. Yeah, I didn't realize that either until the very end. And then they said something like, oh, they're 13 now. And I was like, Both of them? Well, and they were in a weren't they sharing a room too? And it was like, is that house? When they were really little. Yeah, when they were younger, when they were like seven or eight or something like that. And I was just like trying to figure out that dynamic, and it just wasn't important, I guess, enough to me to really like focus on and try to figure out why that was all happening because there were so many other things happening. Yeah. Did the kids ever even live in the house? I don't know. I don't think so. Now that I think about it, they might have left before. I think they moved out housewarming. Yeah. Let's talk about the let's talk about the housewarming dinner. The awkward dinner is how I have it written down. Crazy. Surrounded by asters. Awkward dinner. Awkward dinner. The Negroni. All the Negronies. I love how Kate McKinnon was wearing a bolo tie. She is a nut. She couldn't be able to do that. Like, I don't know how anybody works with her. How do you get through a scene? How do you keep a straight face? Ever. She is. I don't think those were her lines. I think she made them all up. I would be interested. She's not gonna just add Lynn as much as she wanted because she's I mean, that's how she is. I wonder if there's blooper tape for that movie, because I would love to see it. I would probably cry with laughter. Absolutely. She's funny. She's a funny chick. She's very funny. The ending? I was very confused as to why that was the ending. Can we back up though? Okay. Why does he look like an idiot when he's running? I feel bad. Sorry, Benedict, but you look crazy when you're running. I feel like you don't do that really. Have you ever heard him say penguin in that documentary? No. You need to go on YouTube or Google and look up Benedict Cumberbatch saying penguin. I can't, I can't. It's very important. All right. If I could do that on the fly right now, I would. Let's see if I can find it. Alright, I'm gonna try to do it right now. Okay. Hold please. Holding. Batch saying penguin. It came up as one of the common searched things. Okay, hold on. I'm gonna share it. Can I share it legally, do you think? It's on YouTube. Yeah. Alright. Ready? Yep. What? Penguins. I told you. Why was there no why was there no editing in this? No idea. That is nuts. You know what else I noticed too? Was on the plane during that scene, he did like a crazy hand motion and it reminded me of Doctor Strange. Like you like did this thing on the plane. And I started laughing. And I was watching it with headphones on, so I can only imagine what kind of like what Norman was thinking of me. Because I was just sitting over there laughing hysterically by myself watching this movie. I mean, I do that stuff all the time anyway, so he's probably used to it by now. When I used to travel for work and have my headphones on on the plane, I could not watch shrinking. Oh gosh, no. Because I would crack up with my headphones on and wake up everybody that was trying to sleep on the plane. Wow. Penguins. Penguins. And then he says penguins, though. Like he really lost his mind. The whole time. Why didn't anybody help him? How about when he found the whale? And he said, You're in the wrong place, buddy. You think? Penguins. Yeah, he's like, stay right there. Alright. And then he got through all of that. And he's talking to her, and they're opening up and being vulnerable. And he says, and then I said, Why am I with Ivy? I know. I'm like, dude, that was not the right thing to say. The look on her face, I was like, that was that was a lot. Did you just say the same thing I said? I did.

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God.

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Not another one. It's happening. Yep.

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Can we talk about their fight scene? Which one? And the fact that he threw a lemon at her face and the sound that it made when it hit her in the face. I had tears coming down my face because it just was just like like it just hit her dead in a eye.

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Right here.

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And he said, You have a gun. I have fruit and knives. And utensils. Utensils. That's what he said. But he did throw knives at her. He did. And she shot 95 shots from that gun. I know. How many bullets could that thing hold? I have absolutely no idea. I know nothing about it. Let's talk about the gun range scene, though. That was another out-of-this world thing. Like, oh, everybody has guns. We don't like guns, but everybody has them. So I know. We've got a gun. How about the way she wrapped her leg around him when he shot and then he did it to Ivy? Yes. Awkwardly with that lanky leg that just came around. Over her. Oh gosh. Oh my God. And then the architecture couple. He said, That's not, you weren't supposed to shoot that way. He said, Yeah, it was that, and then I changed it and I won. I know. Andy Sandberg says, I changed it and I won. I loved that. That was a good line, too. I think Andy Sandberg had the best lines in this movie. He has a lot of really good one-liners in general. Yeah. He did like just he delivers them well. Yeah, he's got a good delivery. Brooklyn 99 was good. That was a good show. Is it Brooklyn 99 or is it Brooklyn 99? Brooklyn 99. Is it? It is 99. It is. It's 9-9. You're right. You're right without even knowing you were right. That's how I roll. See. Also, I want to try a Negroni. I feel like I've had one in my Bartesian. That makes sense. I feel like I've seen those advertised in the emails for the mailing list I'm on for not having the machine. They have a new one, by the way. Do they it's cordless? Is it three dollars?

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It is not three dollars.

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But it's not, I don't think it's as much as the deluxe, the four four bottle version. It's I think it it either only holds one or two bottles, but it's cordless, which I love because that means it's more portable. So what is what do you have to do? Just charge it? I guess. I don't know. I haven't really looked into it. I would think that would make sense, wouldn't it? We charge it like that for future episodes. You need to get a Bartesian and I'll have a Bartesian, and then we can have Bartesian drinks as we review TV and movies. Yeah. So like for this one, we could have had a Nagroni. I think that's a great idea. Stunning. I think we've come up with a gimmick. Have you seen that clip? What? From Stunning? All right, I'm the older system. House of the What? Was it House of the Seven Dragons? I feel like that's not what it is. I think I just merged two shows in my head. A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. Not that one. House of the Dragons. House of Dragons. House of Dragons. Yes, there is no the. It's House of Dragons, I believe. I could be wrong. I use the Google, so I use the Googler. Uh just goes in there. So the girl that plays the Queen with the dark hair that was in Bates Motel. Yes, yes. So she's doing an interview and they're talking about Negroni. That's another thing you need to look up. Oh, okay. Because it's just a very cute little interaction with them when they talk about Negroni with Persecco. I also did enjoy her in Bates Motel. She was really good in that. She was really good. I love that show. Okay, I think I've got it.

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You think you've got it? I think I've got it. You have really good accents like my husband.

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All his accents are unlike someone that's never ever spoken any language ever in life from any country that has ever existed. So not even English. I don't even know what it is. I'm like, no, nobody lives where that accent's from. Where's all the penguins that we put a um terrafon? You mean the penguins? Was that Iceland? Antarctica? I don't know. It's somewhere people don't live and we have a terraphon. Specific island that only penguins live on. Yeah. Like it's totally inhabited. Okay, you ready? Yep. Here we go. Ugliato. Stunning. Stunning. Stunning. She'll drink a choice. I had an old fashioned in a can that was really good. It was good? It was super good. Like really good. I don't remember the name of it though. Well, that's good. Sorry, I don't want to show my broken thing. And I'm gonna end up going and finding one and be like, oh, this must be the one she's talking about, and it's gonna be disgusting because I'm not sure. I know, because you want I'll figure it out. I'm just not gonna get it until you do. I'll get it. For my own safety. I'll get one tomorrow, so that means our next review has to be of something that we could use old fashions for. Floats your boat. What movie could go with an old-fashioned? I'm not sure. We really just have to pick a movie and then go. Well, no. Bridgerton doesn't follow, doesn't track. No. Can't do an old-fashioned with Bridgerton. Maybe the Gilded Age, though. Maybe. You think so? Maybe. I feel like that might have been a time of absinthe and that's not an old-fashioned Dingus. I know. I said Absinthe and bourbon. Not together, just like the I was like, that would be disgusting, actually. Have you ever had absinthe? I've had it in a drink where they like coat the glass and then dump it out and then meet the rest of the cocktail. I don't know what actually it's supposed to be in. It's supposed to make you hallucinate or something like that, but I saw Eurotrip. I don't know what that is. And then they all went on a crazy adventure in the mind. I didn't see that. It was very raunchy, and I don't suggest it for youngins. Well, that's good because I don't have any young'ins anymore. I barely do. I can watch whatever I want. I can do what I want. Um, let's get back to the movie. So I'm sorry. Point noted, we need to go back and watch the original. Maybe we could do a short or something. Okay. A little Instagram-y post or something with our thoughts comparing the two. But I really feel like it was a different movie. Like I just feel like had a different vibe. Yeah, it had a different vibe. How about the ending? I didn't like it. I thought it was a real weak way to end things. I liked the ending. I feel like they went through all of that just to decide that they still love each other. And then die from a kid. Probably died. From the Julia Child stove. Yeah. And their children are. Actually, it was kind of depressing because now their children are orphans. Their dream house went up in flames. And they're and they love each other. They're in Miami. No, they weren't. The kids are in Miami. Oh, okay. Okay. I thought you were. And I never saw any family at all. No. Although I'm trying to figure out who watched them when they went on their little adventure on the plane. Probably Kate McKinnon and Andy Sandberg. Don't think I would let them watch my kids. Me either. Gotta say. Sure, come over for dinner. However, I will not put you in any level of responsibility, even with my goldfish. He hired him as he didn't even know him well enough to know what kind of lawyer he was. So this is the nature of their friendship. How did they I feel like they were just very reckless people in life? In general. Just in general. Yeah. Reckless picking friends. Yeah. Reckless in their careers. Put into anything except for her really cool-looking baked goods. Oh, I thought you were gonna say her really cool-looking outfits. Also, those were some of those were really good. I was like, what? That's a choice. What spawned that choice today? No, some of her outfits were really good though. The one that she wore to the awkward housewarming party, I like the yellow. Yeah, the last outfit, right? Yeah, I thought that was like I liked that cut of that shirt. I like the mustard yellow. I thought it looked good on her, and I just I liked it. I would have, I would have I would have worn that. Yeah, I would have worn that. I would have rocked that one. The sabotaging. That deep fake video was hilarious. With his missing tooth. Is that is that a crock pipe? He was so offended by that. Like, how dare you? And then uh mushrooms at her rush.

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No, put your clothes back on.

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I know.

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I like it.

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And then later everything was fine. Like she's walking over all the restaurants. Like, what what happened? I like the uh the chef, the sous-chef or whatever it was, and the waiter that were at the restaurant that worked at the restaurant with her. I liked them. So the waiter. Yeah, the waiter was in that show Sex Education. Did you watch that? No. Never even heard of it. It's on Netflix. It is so funny. It's another British comedy. Oh. So is he British? Yes. I actually wrote, where's his accent? Like I wrote that down. Yeah, because that it I didn't had an I would not have ever even thought. He, I believe, is Nigerian British, but he has a very strong accent. And then the chef was in that show Glow. She's been in other things too, because I've seen her and I've never seen it. She was just in his and hers. Well, yeah, she was the deputy or the detective. Yeah. That's right. Okay, that's why she was. I remember her being in glow because she has like a unibrow. And it made me laugh. I didn't I didn't I don't know what that is either. You don't remember the Glow, the gorgeous ladies of wrestling from the 80s? No. She was a wrestler? She in the show she was. She's too young to have been doing anything in the 80s. She probably wasn't born in the 80s. There. Yeah. Ooh, sorry. No, gorgeous ladies of wrestling, otherwise known as Glow, was like the WWE, but it was all women. I feel like I remember it, but I wasn't really ever into wrestling like that. Watched all of that with Daddy. So we watched that, we watched roller derby. We watched um I remember watching roller derby. Wrestling. And then we watched Boxing. Endless hours of boxing and fishing and hunting and animals on the prairie killing each other. No, it was uh it was the one where they had the people competing with the like they weren't American Ninja Warriors, but it was like they had these like really super strong athletic people competing with other people. American Gladiators. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that too. I'm like, it wasn't Ninja Warriors. Nope, American Gladiator. I remember Gladiators. Yeah. I used to make him watch Jeopardy, and I would keep score, and he'd be like, I don't know why you're writing the score down a mop playing would crush my dreams every time. I remember you writing down the score, and I got one question right, and it was math that begins with D. Of course, they gave it some clever name, and I just kept saying decimal point until I got one of them right. And those are the only points I got. Because that was the only thing I could think of. Those were the days. Do you know that he had to tell me wrestling was fake at a very young age because my favorite wrestler was Hacksaw Jim Duggan? And he was wrestling, I believe it was Andre the Giant, and he picked him up and he had like fake, he had like a blood capsule in his mouth, so he had blood coming out of his mouth, and I was so distraught and crying because I thought my favorite wrestler was actually dying that daddy had to tell me it was fake, so I could be okay. You're so weird. And the shocks you why? Not at all. This is the girl who kept score by herself playing Jeopardy because nobody wanted to play with her. My god. Yeah, I can do the roses too. I see. Did you little biting there? Well, did you see how terrible the architect wife was at it? Architector? No. When she was trying to do the banter, she's like, this is awesome. I love this banter. I was like, that's not banter. That's mean. That's just awesome. And cruel. God. I did enjoy the movie though a lot. I liked it a lot. I would watch it again. Like if I came across it, I would watch it again. I would not turn it off. No. There were many moments that really had me laughing a lot. We have to come up with some really cool rating system. Like catchy ones. Like with like thumbs up or thumbs down, but something. Well you could something catchy. Ring finger up forever because it's a few. I cannot. I cannot. It's broken. Maybe maybe we could do it with something to do with the drinks that we will drink. How many drinks it would take to watch it? How many drinks I would need to give you to watch it again. Again. Would you watch it again? Yes, after two old fashions. After three Negronies. I think I like that. That's fun. I don't know. We'll have to ask the audience. And actually, that's not a terrible idea at all. I think that's not. And I've not ever heard of that. So let's ask the audience. We'll put it out there after this episode airs. We'll put out an Instagram poll and see what they say. I like it. I like it. I like that new rating system. We'll come up with really cool little um emojis of drinks. The drinks. Of whatever one it is. Whatever it is. Thing is, is we can't like depend on like the iPhone ones because there's not one for everything. No, there's there's only one that there's one that looks like a martini. There's one that looks like beer. A beer. There's one that looks like any highball mixed drink. Like, wait, is it a highball? No, it's not a highball. The what? Is it a rock's glass? I mean, yeah, but it has another name. We'll have to figure that out. Tumblr? Could be a tumbl. No, I think a tumbler's taller. Rock tumbler. I don't know. I think that's something you I have one and it says a drink and I know things from Game of Thrones. So I got that one right. Oh, I like that. I like it. Not like House of the Seven Dragons. Not House of the Seven Dragons. I don't think there was ever an old-fashioned served in. Yeah, it is a rock's glass. You're absolutely correct. But I felt like it was called something else. You should have let me play Jeopardy with you when I was an old. I know. I would have had all the points. I didn't really like you then though. That's fine. But I love you now. Well, that's good. It's important to me that you love me now. That's good. And a Negroni is also oh, it's called a low ball. That's what I was thinking of. It's called a lowball. I'm like tumbler. You said rock tumbler. I'm like, no, that's what you put rocks in to shine them. Like in shrinking. She's in what? Shrinking. Oh yeah, that's true. She did the rocks. Tis true. Tis true. So what are we gonna review next? What are we gonna talk about? What movie? What are we gonna do? You won't watch scary movies. I mean, I could. I imagine that our conversations could probably be pretty special. And be like, well, I closed my eyes during that part, and then when I looked through my fingers, there was like a bloody clown, and I didn't like it. I didn't like it. Did you watch it? No. So good. The thing is, is I loved that book. The clown doesn't even show up till like the fourth or fifth episode. I understand. I feel like you should just watch it. But I know that he's going to. Do you see? Yeah. He's not that scary though. He's kind of like a Freddie Krueger type of monster, like funny and terrifying at the same time. Killer Clowns from Outer Space did not bother me. Well, wasn't that a dumbass movie? It was very campy. And actually, when I went to Universal, they had like a scare zone setup. Mm-hmm. And I got to walk through and see them. Oh, that I would never do. Never in a million years will I ever do a walkthrough haunted house. I did one in Virginia Beach. We I went with a bunch of my friends in college. Never would do that ever again because I was so ready to swing on someone. Well, here's what happened to me. We went, it was for our honeymoon. We went and we decided, oh, let's do Halloween horror nights. I'm like, great. Did you put your pants? Huh?

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Did you pick your pants?

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So I check in, everything's fine. We're waiting for the party to start. And then we start. We decide. The first house we're gonna go through is the American Horror Story House. Just jump right in. I was like, oh well, this one doesn't have a long line. Let's go here. Dumb me doesn't know. I'm like, I watch the show. I like the show. I was hanging on to Norm's arm like this so tight that when I got out, I couldn't cramps in your hand. Then I'm like, okay, I think we're done with houses. He's like, yeah, we don't need to do that anymore of these. Like, neither one of us was like, let's go do them. So then we're just walking around looking at like they call them scare zones, and they're wide open. It's not dark, nothing's jumping out at you. You can see everything, but it's like set up so you can see like a whole display of whatever scene they're trying to create. We go through one. Yeah. We go through one, and it's like soldiers that are taken over by aliens and they're going through this whole act. I'm like, oh cool. There's another one that was really cool. It was like very mild. It was like kind of scary pumpkins and stuff. The killer clowns from outer space. Well, then we hit the purge. There was no way for me to get around it. So I had to go through. I'm walking and I'm like, you know what? Let me take some pictures. So I'm taking pictures and I put my camera down. And I don't remember if I was like adjusting my bag or whatever. And then I picked it up to take a picture. Out pops the purge man in his mask. Right there. I screamed. Knees to chest took off out of the entire scare zone. He couldn't keep up with me. I was like track star, like you wouldn't believe. I heard him break character and start laughing because I was running so away from him. I left Norm for dead. Like he was gonna die back there because he was just lollygagging. He was purged. He didn't even care. And actually, let me see. I have a picture of this ridiculousness. Here's the funny thing is that you said you were taking pictures with a camera. Who does that? My phone, not a camera. I was like, What'd you get married? 1940? Yep. It's the first one ever. There we go. I gotta find this. It was so ridiculous. And I'll never get rid of this picture because it makes me laugh every time I look at it. I wanna see that. I wanna see Scream, what is it, seven? Seven, I think. Yeah, I wanna see that. So let me see if you can see that. Ooh, creepy deepy. So imagine you're just, you know, oh yay, everything's so fun and scary here. And it was still light out. So it's not like I was walking through the back and walked in the dark, and I'm like, you know, taking pictures, like, oh, this is so much fun. And I turn and there he is. I was like, absolutely. See, that's that's when my appendages would start. Yes. I almost took out the pig mask guy and the American Horror Story, like swinging. And I was like, we gotta get out of here. And then Norm is like panicking because I'm panicking. He's like, How do we get out of here? I'm like, I don't know. It was just, but yeah, that was my adventure with the purge guy. What? When is the next season of American Horror Story coming out? I'm not sure. I feel like it's long overdue. Yeah. I'm really hoping. But I feel like a lot of them are coming back from the last thing I saw. I'm really hoping that I can make it through this whole season. I couldn't watch the last one. Like I watched it, I think I finished it. The one I don't I think it was called Coven. Coven? Is it Coven or Coven? Coven. A Coven of Witches. I don't know why I thought it was Coven. Hey, settle down. You're so weird. I also hate that this program. Halloween 2026. But they still haven't said they've announced all the stars, but we don't know the yeah. So when I log in, it just takes the first picture of me as like my your thumbnail or whatever. A a hundred percent amongst her. Yeah, it does. I did I observed that. I did. And the other show I like is American Horror Stories. I couldn't really get into that. I didn't like the last season of it. Did you see that grotesquery? Yeah, Grotesquery. Yeah, I like that one. I did like that. That's actually supposed to be coming back. I did not like Travis Kelsey though. I could just I thought I thought he was so hilarious. He was what he was supposed to be, but I think I was just sick of seeing him at that point. In general. I was just sick of him. I like Travis Kelsey. I like his brother better. I don't think I paid enough attention to his brother.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

It just sounds like blah blah blah. Football. Okay. Yay, sports ball. Sports ball.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

I can't do any sports right now and it's making me sad. You what? I can't do any sports right now and it's making me sad. It still hasn't been officially renewed though. Grotesquery. No, no? No. But they did it. No, I thought they did a good job with that show. Seemingly cancelled in November. Lame. Very lame. Those are the good ones. That was pretty good. So yeah, I don't know what you did you watch All's Fair yet? The lawyer one with Kim Kardashian and God no. I don't know. I heard it was actually somebody said it was pretty good. I don't know. Haven't seen it. Was it the guy in the picture that I showed you? That sounds like something he'd say. No, it was not him. Don't trust him. Gosh. I outran him though. Alright, so we do have to pick another. Yes. This is what happens when you have two sisters with ADHD trying to come up with ideas. I know, this is crazy. Uh I was trying to Google some stuff. Okay. We have to watch some trailers, see what's out there, what's on and popping, what the kids are talking about. Is that that's a thing? On and popping? That's a thing. That's a phrase. People say that. Do you remember in that show, Ben and Kate, where she goes, what's poppin'? No, but that was a good show. I forgot all about that show. I have that show. I bought it on Amazon Prime. It's the only purchase I've ever made in my life. I bought One Tree Hill on Amazon Prime because there was the season I couldn't watch it. I was like, I have to see how it ends. It was the last season or something. $19.99 for it. It was so important to me, and I still have it. And so that I can watch it. That was a good show. I love that show. What's what's poppin'? When she someone goes, Oh hey, how are you? And she goes, Hey, what's poppin'? And then her face. Why did you say that? Very funny. Man. Well, what about White Lotus? When's that coming out again? I don't know. That's a good one. I enjoyed watching Mike White on Survivor. Did you are you watching White Lo uh Survivor? No. What? I haven't watched Survivor since I don't know, high school. Is it high school? I don't remember. The last thing I remember is they gave them Oreos and it was like they gave them a billion dollars. They had Oreos and peanut butter. It was a really old season. That is a very old season. Because they were so skinny and they were just like in heaven because they got peanut butter and Oreos. We watched that show pretty religiously. I haven't watched it in years. Oh, so the next one is gonna be set. White Lotus is set in France. Oh, you started watching Riff Raff? Gosh. So bizarre. You're like, what is going on with all of this? I did see something about it being set in France. I do remember that now. Yeah. White Lotus, yeah. Yeah. That's a good show. I'm sad Jennifer Coolidge isn't there anymore. I know. But she was in Riffraff, so there's that. I know, but she's not her regular self. You mean she's not the White Lotus character, which is not her regular self, she's not a character in like 90% of what she does, though. No. Yes. The kind of like goofy. Like I think of her in Best in Show. I didn't see that. You didn't see that? I don't think so. I love Christopher Guest movies. Yeah, I don't I didn't see that. Real quick, so you know what took me a long time to figure out the Discover commercials that she's in now? Yeah. Why she was always buying like these retro things. And then it hit me. Oh yeah, nobody used to take Discover before. Only like Sears. You're so pretty. You're like the prettiest. Pretty funny. It took me forever. And now she's like, I look rat. Um, actually, I have another line from the roses that cracked me up. What what was it? When she said she had uh when uh Kate McKinnon said she had an autoimmune disease. Andy Sierra is like chronic yeast infections are not an autoimmune disease. It was funny. Just I just happen to look and I'm like, why does that say chrome? And then I'm like, nope, that says chronic. And then I was like, oh, that's right. I'm the one with the broken reader. Yeah. Is that an autoimmune disease? No, I hope not. How did you do that? So I was going to tip a ball and it landed directly on the tip of my finger. The ball tipped me. I did not. You didn't do the job. You did the wrong thing. I did the wrong thing. Do you know what every time I play volleyball the first week I jam my thumb? Yeah, like I could do a jammed thumb. And I actually think I did jam my thumb that night too. I also have a big huge bruise on my hip from diving. But here's the here's the funniest thing of all of this. That was my first game back in like three months, because I've been sick after sick after sick after ailment after ailment. And then I just top it all off. Our brother said every time he talks to me, there's something wrong with me. Right. I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:17

It was to be the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

On target.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

They talk to me.

SPEAKER_01 41:22

It's always something. If I picked up the phone. If you picked up the phone, yeah. That's alright. I'll pick up the phone. You like to. I don't. I don't either. But sometimes it's just easier to talk about my ideas than to find, especially while I'm driving. Yeah, I will talk to you. Because it's like talking to yourself. That's why. Kind of. That's kind of what it is. It's like I know what to expect. Like I know that the conversation is gonna have the flow I want it to have because we are very similar mindsets. Whereas like Ari will call me and just breathe into the phone. And it's really because she just doesn't want to be by herself shopping. And so she'll just be sitting there and I'll be like, hello? And she'll be like, Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I was looking at something and I'm like, why am I on the phone with you? Because you're my mother. Yeah. Like, all right. We go to Target together. On the phone. On the phone. Should we find something in the store? I feel like I'm living a TikTok video because my kids will call me, Mom, on this pill bottle it says I should take two or three. Should I take two or three? They have survived because we've enabled them. What's my social security number? I don't know. Here's the thing. I used to know Aries, but because a new piece of information has gone into my brain since then. You took that space. Gone. I never knew my kids' social security numbers. I always had to look on old tax returns. See, Ari's I knew. Jackson's, I don't think I ever knew. My brain was just like, there is no room for new information. Or you don't know what your name is. I know my driver's license number by phone. I do. What's up with that? Why? I don't know. Sometimes I can't remember my phone number. My own phone number. At my old job, I had a direct line and I could never remember the number, even though it was in my email. It was on, you know, multiple invoices because I was a contact for it. I had to have a sticky note so that if I left the voicemail, I could say what you could read it out loud. Because otherwise I would either give a number that didn't exist, or I would sound drunk because I'd be like, Yep. Goodness gracious. I was just, I'm not a phone person like that. I can't like think on the fly and leave a cohesive voicemail. I can't. Alright. So we still have to pick something. Oh yeah. So the BTS show the like is it like a documentary or something? Yeah. It's a documentary. BTS, is that like the K pop Demon Hunter Girls? What about them? Is that what BTS says? No. BTS is a Boy group, dude. K-pop. It's K-pop, yeah, but it's not. You're saying is it the same genre. Genre. Of music. Well, okay, so but the K-pop Demon Hunters, that song was from their movie. No, I know. Yeah. Yeah. I actually have a BTS song on one of my playlists. I like BTS. I have a I like a few of them. I don't know if it's a good idea. Could not tell you the name of it. Could not tell you anything about it. Couldn't tell you, obviously, the lyrics. None of that. But it's a catchy song. And when I told Ari, she's like, what are you listening to? And I told her, and she goes, How do you even know that? And I'm like, not 95 years old. I know. What's up with that? They're mean kids. Hey, do you watch Paradise? No. Oh, you gotta watch Paradise, man. I think we're on, I don't know what season this is, two or three, but it's good. It's really good. I feel like So conceivable. Inconceivable. I feel like Norman has watched that. I would think if you watched From, I would guess. You probably watch Paradise. You probably watch Paradise. Paradise is really, really good. Did you watch Killing Eve? No. Oh, you gotta go back and watch that too. It was really good. Stop yelling at me. I'm not yelling. I'm looking at different things that I've watched to see what's new. New and popular. Let's I'm on Netflix.

unknown 45:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:20

New and popular. I'm still avoiding Bridge or mind. It's making sure that I have whatever streaming service it is that you want to watch something on. You have Netflix though, right? Yeah. Why is Gaslit by My Husband the number two movie in the US today? Because it was a new one that came out, so probably everybody watched it. I did not. I did. And Peaky Blinders. I didn't even know that was a movie. I thought it was a show. I liked that. You did? I never watched it. Lamar Odom is dead? Did he die? I don't think so. I don't think so either. They were just talking about him on Cam's podcast, so I don't think so. But he there's a movie that says untold the death and life. Oh, I get it. The death and life, because he almost died. He almost died a couple of times. Yeah. Doing crazy stuff. You know he went to my high school, right? No. Yeah, he was there at the same time as our cousin. Which cousin? I can't say her name on public. I was gonna say public radio. This is not radio. This is NPI. No, it's not. No, it's not. That cousin. You know who I'm talking. Yeah. The pretty one. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Something very bad is going to happen. What is that? Wasn't that the one where they just kept saying sorry? Well, yeah, that's right. The whole trailer was sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so so sorry. I'm so very sorry. I am the sorriest I've ever been in my entire life. I'm so sorry. That was stupid. I'm so sorry that I'm saying I'm so sorry so much. That made me not want to watch the movie. Gotta be honest. Let's see. I still haven't started Bridgerton. I'm trying desperately to do the recaps for my little side quest episodes. Got caught in a brothel and almost died. Yes. And Norman, my husband, texted me and said. What is a brothel? Yeah, it's not a really common word. Especially for someone who doesn't use a lot of words. He keeps it very simple. Brothel's not in the vocabulary. What is blue therapy? Well, it's uh British and it's couples therapy. And they are the most toxic, horribly matched couples ever in creation. How do you know this? Because they have been home. And why are you doing anything? Oh yeah, that's right. You're broken. Now I'm broken too. So Brooklyn 99. It is Brooklyn 99. It is literally Brooklyn N-I-N-E-N-I-N-E. So it is Brooklyn 99. So your sister is so smart. You are. Nuremberg. I didn't watch that. Did you watch Hijack on Apple TV? No. I thought that's what we were watching for the longest, and it had subtitles, and I was like, that seems odd. He was watching something else, and hijacked was like the intro preview. You thought you were watching it. I thought we were watching. I'm like, where is it elbow? To be fair. To be fair, this season of Hijack does have subtitles because it takes place in Germany. Not German. This was not a German show. It was Terum? Ferum? It was on Apple TV. Never heard of it. Did you I never saw Spiral? Did you ever see Spiral? It's a Saw movie. And it has Chris Rock in it. I thought you said it's a soft movie. I'm like, like about people. It doesn't say what year it's from, though. There's a movie about blackberries. Like the fruit? I had a pink blackberry once. The phone. Yes. Not the fruit. When you said pink, I was like, that doesn't make sense. It's a hybrid fruit. And did you know that there is a Bridgerton podcast on Netflix? I did see something about that. So I got a lot of things. I noticed that they have a lot of podcasts on Netflix now. Yeah, I think they have a a whole category of them. I love podcasts. I watch a lot on YouTube too. I watch. I'm really into the Cameron. He has two different ones. He has one with Mace, and they talk about sports. And that one's really good. And then he has one with um this guy sent. I think they call him Sen, but I don't remember what his real name is or what his full name is. And that one is just like, for lack of a better word, it's just gossip around the world. Does he have one that's about a horse and carriage? I don't think higher Mamacita. What are you no? Are you singing his oh my gosh? I didn't even remember that was his song. That's crazy. Kid's Social Security number? Gone. Lyrics of that song. In your head. Still there. Terran, I think it was called. Terran? Which is the capital of Iran. Tehran. Tehran. My God. This is why I always call my daughter Lexi. Because she says stuff like this too. Tehran. From Iran. I knew it was called Iran, though. That is not getting edited out. I hope you realize that. You can keep whatever you want in here. I have nothing. I have no shame. I think it's Tehran. No, it's not. Tehran. I know I'm saying it wrong, but I'll fix that. I'll figure it out. Remember when you edit that out? No, I won't, I probably won't edit it out. Remember when something was in, like maybe it was the World Cup was in what is that country? Turkey. No, it was a really wealthy country, but small. Qatar. Qatar? That's not how you say it. I watched video after video after video to try to learn how to say it right, and I still can't say it right. I'm gonna figure out how to say this. Well done. Taran. Taran. Yeah, not Taryn. It's not the girl down the street's name. Sorry, I'm not a linguist like you. I wish I was, but I'm not. I was just talking about that. So crazy. I was just talking about that to Urban today. I wanted to be a linguist and an archaeologist, and here I am. I took anthropology in college when the five minutes. I'd say as a class once. Yeah. That's it was just a class. I enjoyed it. But I don't remember if I was in high school or college then when I took a few. Didn't finish college. Oh yeah, that's right. Loser. Not all of us got a free ride. Oh yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 51:24

Made a big difference.

SPEAKER_01 51:25

Yeah, just you know, no big deal. Still came out of it with student loans, though, so did I. Doesn't matter. I don't have any kind of degree to show for it. Degree to be still hard knocked. My sociology degree is not knocking down doors anytime soon. I'm probably doing more sociology-related things than you are. Probably. Literally. Well, I feel like there's a level of sociology that I need to apply to my architecture role. Well, all I'm doing is supporting little minds and how they develop in architecture. To big minds. Little minds to big minds. To big minds. Uh I'm still trying to find something for us. But what else can I look on? Amazon Prime. Let's see what's on Prime Video. Are we gonna do a movie, a show, a documentary, or you don't know? Yeah, I don't know. I'm I'm wondering because I'm feeling like I'm feeling like movies are better for us because shows like I'm like I have multiple seasons and stuff. Yeah, like it's kind of hard. I would think I'm having trouble with Bridgerton now. Like a limited series would be good? Yeah, a limited series would be good. A documentary would be fine, even if it has multiple episodes, because they're usually not that many. Oh, you don't watch Mormon Housewives, right? Yes, I do. Well, you do? I hate watching. Oh, yeah, that's right. We did talk about that. Have you started the new season? I have. Dude, dude. They're a hot mess. All of them. Hot mess. Hot mess. How? Like I don't even think they like each other at all. I don't think any of the husbands and wives like each other. I don't think any of the husbands really like each other. I don't think any of the wives really like each other. I don't think. I'll tell you who I don't who I dislike very much right now is Jesse's husband. That little twerk? Yes. Yeah. I mean, but was she the one that was with Marcelino? Is that his name? Marcelino. I mean, that's the guy from Vandercamp, Vanderpump. Yeah. Not the fish sticks. Not the fish sticks. I love the fish stick. Favorite place to go. It's so high-end. Oh my gosh. Yes, that one. Like, yeah. She kept going back and talking to him. Like kept communicating with him, kept working. Well, she was so busy trying to prove a point. But it just made her look like she was stupid. Yeah. It was all stupid. But it was also very interesting and made me wonder if they were that naive that she was saying, like he was saying that she cheated on him, but they never had sex. Well, that's what she's saying. Well, that's what he said too. And then he changed his story. No, no, no, no, no. He changed his story about the other one, uh, to me. Yeah. You know who I don't like on that show is uh the black girl. What's her name? Uh I feel bad for her. Like it's I kind of feel like there's something about her that I'm just like, why are you trying so hard to be like these people? Like, well, she said that's so much better. She said that's like a a thing she struggles with and has always, you know, I guess growing up out there, she just wanted to belong. Well, yeah. I mean, she's telling her friend, like, yeah, I can't have you doing my extensions because you're making me go bald. Well, and other people have complained about her extensions anyway. But definitely don't do it on her hair.

SPEAKER_00 54:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

I just like she's just trying so hard to have to be like identity.

SPEAKER_00 54:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:53

She doesn't have a sense of identity. She's not embracing anything about herself or but I feel like she's feel like she's starting to realize that about herself. And I feel like she's there's she's gonna have an awakening at some point. Something's gonna happen. Something goes on this season with her because without even like bringing into this her blackness, just her personality is so drastically naturally different than them. Yeah. I'm just like, that is like such an unhealthy like protect yourself. She's very needy though. She is they all are, yeah. They all are pick me's, they all want someone to pay attention to them at all times. Yeah. And it's just like, and you know it all comes from their upbringing. You know it. Where they were probably neglected in many different ways or abused in many different ways. And it's just, oh I like, you know, which one I'll tell you who I do really like is the one who's um she just she's one of the ones that just had a baby, really blonde. Why can't I think of her name right now? She's funny. She's the baby brain right now. Every time they interview her, she's like, I lost my train of thought. Yeah, I like her so much. She's been the most normal one out of all of them. Hmm. Most grounded. And then her friend, the one that has the skin problems sometimes. With the reddish hair? Macy? Macy. Is that Macy? She was on Dancing with the Stars too. No. That wasn't her? Macy wasn't on. No. I know which one you're talking about. Are you sure? I think you're flip-flopping the two reddish-haired ones. No, no, I'm not. Um, hold on. I'm gonna tell you. Why am I typing in Google on Google Housewife's cast? It is very hard to type. Okay, Macy is the one that I like a lot. She's the blonde one that one of the ones that had just had a baby. And then the other one that her friend that I like a lot is that's the one she has like a skin thing. Michaela Matthews. Yeah. Whitney and Jennifer Affleck were the two that were on Dancing with the Stars. I haven't said, yep, no, I'm looking at her. I know, I know what you mean. Yeah. She's got a strange vibe too. Who? Jennifer Affleck? No, Michaela. Jennifer Affleck's an idiot. She's thought she was related to Ben Affleck all this time. But she's sweet though. Like, how does she know? They they were joking around with her and she just took it for face value. She didn't know. But now she has like a deal with him. Like she's doing stuff with him now. Yeah. But nothing. Their family is nothing. Whitney does. Whitney's close with her sister and her and her family. That's right. She's like the only person. She's close with them. Yeah. And I think Jennifer is close with her mom, Jen Affleck. She's close with her mom. She was saying that the way that they communicated was through dance. Because I think her mom spoke Spanish and she didn't. Does that sound right? Well, maybe. Yeah, maybe. I mean, English wasn't her mom's first language. Yeah. And she didn't really speak Spanish. Who else? Who else? Layla's a really pretty girl. She's getting really skinny. Yeah. They all are. Yeah. The way that they and I mean, good for them, but the way that they bounce back after these babies is making it. I know. It's crazy, right? Demi is I don't know. She used to be my favorite. Demi used to be my favorite. Dig out. They all just like went off the deep end. I don't know what happened. Like it's Jesse's last name is looks Japanese. Whose last name? Jessie. It's like Ngati Kora. I wonder. That's interesting. Ngatikara. Layla's only 23. They're all actually fairly young. Yeah, but she is the baby. She's only 23. Maori. Is that how you say it? Maori. Maori.

unknown 58:48

Who?

SPEAKER_01 58:49

The Cook Islands. Okay. Yeah, I think it's Maori. I think that is how you say that. Um, Macy's 29. Jesse's 32. Jen is. They don't say how old Jen is. She's younger though. Um, Demi is 30. Taylor. I don't know how old Taylor is either. I don't know. Her being on The Bachelorette is a terrible idea. Well, it's not gonna happen. They pulled that. I feel a little bit bad for her. But also, I think she just has to leave that guy alone. He's garbage. He's not even that cute. I mean, sh she's kind of odd looking too, but still. Yeah. So that last name is her ex-husband's last name, who's from the Cook Islands. Well, that would make sense because her extension line is Jay-Z. Mm-hmm. Wait. Her last name is uh Draper. That's her new husband, though. No, her ex-husband was that other last name. Wait a minute. Her maiden name is Draper. Right. So the guy that she was married to that she just split up with or whatever on the show. His he's from the Cook Islands. I think this was previous to him. Okay. They've all had divorces and stuff. Yeah. Which is sad because they're so young. Yeah. I didn't I don't know. That was something I was like, I didn't think that was a thing, you know? But you learn things, right? Watching these shows. I don't know why I'm obsessed with Mormons. I have no idea why that is so intriguing to me. And that wraps up our deep dive into the roses. Huge thank you to my sister Lexi for joining me because honestly, who else is gonna match my energy? Call out the same nonsense I do and still love me afterwards. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure you're following So I Saw This dot dot dot wherever you listen to your podcasts. Leave a rating, drop a review, or send this to the friend who keeps insisting they haven't had time to watch yet. You can also join the conversation over on Reddit at r forward slash so I saw this, where we break down episodes, share theories, and occasionally spiral together in a very healthy and very communal way. Until next time, I'm Tanya. This was So I Saw This dot dot dot, and I'll see you in the next episode.