Visionary Woman Podcast

From Science to Dance Empire: How Embracing Risk Transformed My Life with Gal Bepole

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Unlock the transformative power of dance to elevate your confidence, business, and self-love with Gal BePole. Israel’s twerk pioneer and founder of the groundbreaking Dance Speak method. She’s not just shaking hips; she’s revolutionizing how women claim their power through movement, business, and authenticity.

Gal’s journey from a biotech student hiding her passions to building a thriving dance empire, and finally merging her love for movement with entrepreneurship, is nothing short of inspiring. In this episode, she reveals how embracing risk and unlearning limiting beliefs catapulted her from the safety of a corporate job to global success. Discover how she navigates self-doubt, leverages community, and uses hosting as a tool to scale her impact, lessons applicable to any woman daring to lead in her industry.

You’ll discover:

  • The unconventional mindset shift that turned dance into a tool for empowerment and business growth
  • The vital importance of risk-taking and how to reframe fears into growth opportunities
  • Gal’s proven methods for building community and leveraging events to amplify your message
  • How her innovative dance-meets-business model is breaking industry stereotypes and creating massive revenue - $135K in her first year
  • Practical systems, including how Hey Clients fuels her automation, freeing her to focus on her zone of genius

This episode isn’t just about dance; it’s about unleashing your boldest self and building an empire rooted in passion and authenticity. If you're ready to challenge the status quo, embrace your true power, and turn your passion into profit, this conversation is your ultimate playbook. Perfect for entrepreneurs, women in transformation, and anyone craving a fresh perspective on growth—your next big leap starts here.

Gal BePole is a trailblazing entrepreneur and movement artist transforming women’s lives worldwide through her dance and business coaching. With a unique approach that combines somatic work, entrepreneurship, and cultural reverence, she’s paving the way for a new kind of leadership, bold, liberated, and unstoppable.

Tune in now and learn how to turn your passions into unstoppable momentum. Your most liberated, powerful self is waiting.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the Visionary Woman Podcast, your front row seat to the stories, strategies, and soul behind the most impactful female-led brands. This podcast was founded by me, Anna Rogers, multi-seven-figure mentor, storytelling genius behind Lifestyle Rich, and the co-founder of Hey Clients, the platform that helps you simplify your tech by combining everything into one place. In every episode, my team will be interviewing incredible visionary women who are making waves in their industry. So you can learn the real strategies, mindset shifts, and behind-the-scenes stories that don't necessarily make it to Instagram. From navigating the messy middles to building incredible brands, these are the conversations that will inspire you to think bigger, lead bolder, and create a business that changes other people's lives.

SPEAKER_01

Gal. She is the founder of Dance Speak and Israel's twerk pioneer. So I'm super excited to get into this conversation. I can already feel the magic and the wisdom that's gonna come through. Thank you, Gal, for being here.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you so much for having me. I'm very excited.

SPEAKER_01

Yes! So, as you know, this podcast was founded by Anna, and she is always helping people, you know, bring their story and help it impact people in the world. So we're gonna start with your story. Take us back to the early days, as far as you want to go. How did you get to where you are today?

SPEAKER_03

So just a casual question to start off with. Got it. Okay. Um, I think that what I would love to start with is that I felt like I always had two sides of me. One of them is the hyper-analytical, logical, smart, straight A student, and the other one is the wild woman. Um she loved to dance. She has gotten me into some very, very exciting adventures that I've been on. Um exciting, dangerous, you know. Two sides to the same coin. Um and I grew I grew up most of my life because of this feeling a strong sense of not belonging. Because I wasn't like a geek. Um, even though I went to school, I studied biotech, and then I got my master's in microbiology and genetics. But like I wasn't I loved science, but I didn't love doing the science myself. And then in dancing, I also never fitted in because where I grew up in Israel in the 90s, my body type was considered they didn't even call it plus size, they just called it fat. And let me just tell you, I was not fat at all. And even if I was, I just felt unwelcome in the dance kind of space. And at 12 years old, I stopped dancing. And I found my way back to dancing, like everything really started happening around 1820. I found my way back to dancing through Salsa and Bachata. I quickly became, yeah, I loved it. Um, I quickly started teaching it, and then I got into my bachelor's in biotechnology, and I moved from the small place where I grew up into the big city, and finally I was free to explore. I ended up starting to work as a stripper in a strip club as part of my very late teenage rebellion. Yeah, I was 21, 22, and but I wasn't really allowed to rebel before, so I feel like it really got out then. And uh I discovered a couple of things. First, money is amazing. Having money is great, feeling powerful is great. Um, and like I gotta say this, I discovered that I wasn't hideous, like body image w issues were severe, and it was actually through sex work that I made peace with my body and really actually got to appreciate it and see it from another perspective because it was completely distorted completely.

SPEAKER_01

I know. Uh being a woman in the 90s was hard.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, it still is today, but back then we didn't even have the internet and like a better understanding of what we have today. So bachelor's degree was all about biology, biotechnology, straight A student. And on one hand, on the other hand, I was working as a stripper at night. I was hiding it from everybody who knew me, and I loved, I was living a double life. Um after that, I found myself in Miami after my my bachelor's, and I that's where I discovered twerking. Um, they didn't even call it twerking back then because it was 2012, and that's just how beautiful black and Hispanic women danced. Um the name hasn't really caught on in the mainstream yet, and that's kind of where I met it. Um, and I was just in awe. I was like, I didn't get the memo over in the Middle East that we're allowed to throw ass and like be proud of the jiggly thighs and the beautiful curves that I was that I was blessed with. And that really, again, really shifted how I saw how I viewed the body. And the scientist in me was like, How do they do that? How do they make their ass move like that? And I quickly figured it out. I quickly figured it out. I came back to Israel, this was let's say 2012, 2013, and I started teaching twerking um as I was getting my master's degree in microbiology and genetics. So again, the these two like sides of me, um, I'm gonna speed up the story, but I at some point during this master's degree, I got cancer, I was diagnosed with skin cancer, melanoma, and as I was healing from the surgery, uh, I think that was, I don't think I know that was the beginning of my spiritual awakening, where I realized I don't miss science, I don't miss making experiments in the lab. All I care about is leading women and dance in the studio. Like that's what I'm here on this earth to do. And so fast forward a few years, I finally, you know, I'm good, touch wood, I'm healthy, I graduated, I worked in cancer clinical research for a year, and then I quit and I went all in on my twerk business as a means to empower women in 2016.

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

Nobody knew what it was in Israel. I didn't understand the racial complexities of teaching a black culture dance as a white presenting woman in the Middle East at that time. Now I know better, and I approached the whole subject with a lot more uh reverence. Uh but back then all I knew was like this is a great practice. Let's liberate, let's shake our asses, and let's have fun. And I did that, and it sold like hot buns. And I in Israel. In Israel, yeah. Yeah. Wow, I I went on a I went on like numerous, I can't even remember, like eight or ten tours in Europe. I hosted the Israeli twerk championship in 2016 and 2017, 100-person event, judges and contestants from abroad. Um, and I had a clothing line specifically for twerking and pole dance that I designed and then manufactured in a small manufacturer in Tel Aviv. Um I really built a community around it. I really built an empire, and I did this for four or four years, and it was really successful. And then I reached a point where I was like, okay, now what? I'm bored. And what I didn't know back then, A, was the coaching industry. I did not know it existed. Um, so this is like 2019. And B, I didn't realize I didn't understand how to evolve my identity from a dance teacher to something more. I didn't know what that more was. I didn't know how I could go about understanding what that more is. So I did what I saw around me being modeled, and I moved to New York and I got my MBA at New York University.

SPEAKER_01

Whoa, gal. There's so many peaks and valleys to this story.

SPEAKER_02

It never ends, it never ends. Guess what? Every day is peaks and valleys every fucking day.

SPEAKER_01

It's so thank you for bringing that because I know people listening, they're like, Yeah, it is, it truly is.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. This by by no means was this a smooth journey because as I started um grad school again in New York, COVID happened. I ended up staying in Israel and doing the first year remotely through Zoom and meeting and dating who my now husband. Um he's the best. I love that for you. And I I put my my dance business on a pause um when I started business school. And then when I graduated, I looked for a job and I was like, I don't want to do, I don't want to teach dance anymore. I want to experience corporate America. They know how to build businesses. I want to learn. Bullshit, they don't. Um, I mean, they do, but not the way I want to. So after a year of looking for a job, I stumbled across somatic coaching. I hired that coach for like a week intensive. I got two job offers. One of them was in a startup, in a marketing startup, and that's the job that I took. Um, and the same story happened, you know, I was I wasn't living a double life. Um, but I was working full-time at this corporate job. And in the evenings, I was picking up my dance business and looking at it and trying to include some somatic coaching and really knowing that where I shine is business. I just don't know what's unique about how I do this, but I know it is. And so for nine months, for about a year in this corporate job, I was doing that full-time, part-time, I was experimenting with my business. And then last August, August 2024, I quit that job. Two months later, November 1st, 2024, Dance Speak was born. My method and my company. Um, our first month was a 5K month, and we are now celebrating $135,000 in sales in our first year in business. We have eight women in our certification. We have three women in a year-long high-level business mastermind, um, hosted a 30-person event um brand name, a Dance Speak event in New York without any local audience. And I've just been traveling the world teaching the method and squirting the juiciness that Dancepeak is.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, Queen. First of all, I want to be a part of Juicepeak or Dan Speak.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, Juicepeak a new offering. Are you serious? It should be a new offering, something around pussy.

SPEAKER_01

I can do that. Oh my god, because I just I just I'm feeling it. And I love thank you for sharing the story because I feel like it really is the journey of a visionary woman, like what you mentioned about taking something that really helped you love yourself more, helping other people do that in the name of liberation, and then you just take it all the way back going to corporate America, and then boom, right into business again and seeing so much success. Congratulations, Lab.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

I'm curious, what are some maybe we'll bring it down to just two beliefs that you had to completely unlearn to get to where you are now?

SPEAKER_03

First and foremost, um, I had to get really comfortable with risk. And when I say that, I'm still not comfortable with risk. Like, but I remember uh during that first month um when I launched the first ever offering, which was a huge success. Like I launched the first ever mentoring container um for a thousand dollars, which seemed like so much back then for me. Um, and I had five women just like purchase all five spots within 10 days in a pre-launch. I ended up not launching it publicly because all spots were filled. It was that month where I went to an in-person event and I decided to invest in a $25,000 mastermind. Yeah, because I was like, well, I gotta take the action of the woman I want to become. I can't just continue dreaming about it. So I did that, and then I hosted an in-person event in New York, which my body has resisted for the three years prior to that moment where I was still living in New York, but I was afraid. Yeah. So I think I think that like just I it's of course it's a belief system that to unlearn, but it's more so it's more so redefining how I view as risk and my relationship with it. Because I just spoke with my with my sister in my last visit in Israel. She is so r I thought I was risk-averse, but she is like so in a different mind mindset that it makes me understand that actually, no, investing, like moving to New York was a huge risk. Going to business school, I didn't get any scholarships on student loans, huge risk. Mastermind after mastermind, investment after investment, huge risk, and all of them are paying off. I just had to really zoom out, and instead of trying to find the ROI like two, three months after a program starts or after whatever a chapter ends, like look at the long term. I think that's that's the second thing. Like my vision started going from what do I want to achieve five months from now to where does the company, where do I see the company go being going in five years from now? And the answer is 50 circles of dance speak around the globe by 50 partners of Dance Speak.

SPEAKER_01

Oh I'm holding that vision with you, sister.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. Oh my gosh. So I love what you said too about being the woman that you know you wanted to show up as and kind of taking action on that and really claiming that identity. Is there anything you want to share around because it seems like you had to kind of like you tried a different thing, the bunch of different things. Is there anything you want to share around what it takes to step into the identity of the woman that you want to become?

SPEAKER_03

It just always comes back to taking the scary action. It always comes back to taking the scary action. And I think that the scary action in this in this context is twofold. It's pouring into yourself and and receiving support, and it's serving others. So wherever people are in their business journey, you know what? I'll speak for myself. I'll speak for myself. Wherever what I see for myself as true and the clients in the Dance Peak world, and some of us, some of them have been in my world way before it was Dance Speak. I have a few twerk students who've been with me for a decade who are now in the high-level mastermind or in the Dance Peak certification. It's really special. And it's always a two-way street. Are you resourcing yourself with support and mentorship, therapy, nutritious food? Are you taking care of your body? Are you working out? And are you in constant, continuous service to your community? Um, when I just started Dance Beak, I gave like sessions for free. I did VIP Day and Celligram for free because I also didn't know, I didn't have experience doing that exactly. I had experience teaching dance, I had experience holding space, but because it was a new skill, I practiced and I gave myself my own internship for free. And now as we up level and as we elevate, it looks different. So we have a telegram, a free telegram space where I drop trainings on what it takes to actually pioneer an industry twice. This the second time doing it. I first pioneered the twerking one in Israel. Now I'm pioneering dance meets business, like nobody else is doing business through dancing. Just this sicko right here. So so yeah, pouring into your community, um, whether that's in your free spaces, if it's earlier in your journey, free one-on-one. And what I really, really, really want to stress is the most powerful thing is hosting events. Hosting events, hosting events, hosting events, some of them free or low friction, some of them high-end and luxury. Continue host events. That is the shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Y'all hear that? Hosting events. I love this. Thank you for your wisdom. I love the passion that's coming through and the spiciness. And so I'd love to know because you mentioned that you love business. What, and I know that you're a user of Hey Clients. So, how has Hey Clients supported you and the systems and structures helping you step out of your hustle and into more of your zone of genius?

SPEAKER_03

So I'm still mastering or even just grasping the full uh program or the full scope of features.

SPEAKER_04

It's a lot.

SPEAKER_03

And it is a lot. It's a lot, and honestly, it's making me level up my identity because it's so much. It's making me understand, okay, you wanted automation, you wanted funnels, you better learn, bitch. You better, you better, you better sit your ass down and apply and like freaking grasp this because this is a powerful tool. And I want to be really clear tools are only as powerful as the energy that you pour into them. And so, again, if you're not serving clients and if you're not receiving support yourself, having having an empire of a software like hey clients is not gonna be helpful because tech is is is the it's the masculine vessel that holds the feminine creation energy. This is my spiritual side. I love that. Yeah. So and that's why also I'm not rushing myself to like learn the ins and outs of the platform. I'm really taking it one step at a time. So I think that's a piece that I would love to share, taking it one step at a time. Now, my I mean, we've mastered emails. I have um, we have a chief of staff and an assistant. So we have a marketing ritual every week where they take my content, they turn it into email form, they use hate clients to send it out. Um, I'm really mastering the payment links and like the products and offers and payment links for just like quick and dirty. Quick and dirty. I think that's something that's really powerful, is that I can do quick and dirty, and I can also do a complex funnel with multi-steps. And so I think I've done like I think I've fully re-re usualized uh utilized a funnel maybe once or twice, because that's the thing that takes time to design beautifully to my standards and also to like really learn and grasp. So now I'm working on my next mastermind, that's a funnel there for sure. But also like the fact that you have those quick and dirty links is really, really, really powerful because when I used I used teachable to host my courses before, and they have zero email, zero funnel capacity. Um, so I wanted to leave them for like two years before you two, you, you guys came into my life. So I'm very grateful for that. And for payment links and for recurring payments, I was using QuickBooks, which is an accounting software, but it was really faulty, really faulty, um, especially with recurring payments. They would just say that I canceled the recurring payments. And luckily, my clients are amazing, and they would send me on Telegram, like, hey, why did you cancel my payment? And I'd be like, I don't know, I didn't do it. So now, now I just I ditched both the platform for hosting courses and um QuickBooks for receiving payments. Now I'm only using it for accounting, and now everything goes through Hey Clients emails, funnels, payments, um, contracts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Amazing. Yeah, I love what you said about you know the feminine creation needing like that container and those systems and that structures in order for it to expand. And I love that you're still learning too. There's so much. It's gonna take time. Forever learning, ever learning. I love this gal. So I want to be respectful of your time and Thank you so much for the beautiful energy that you've shared today and all the spiciness and the passion. I love it. How can people find you? How can people be a part of Dance Speak?

SPEAKER_03

Thank you for having me. And thank you for asking. The best way is to find me on Instagram at Gal B Pole. So Gal is G A L like the Slack for Girl. And then B pol B-E-P-O-L-E. And you will find everything there. Our offers change. So the best thing is just to DM me there and ask what's going on. Also happy to share to immediately just like share our free Telegram channel as a resource for anybody who DMs me.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, amazing. Thank you for that. Well, thank you so much, gal. Definitely look her up on Instagram and look into her offers. And I hope you have a beautiful day. Thank you so much for listening.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

Bye.