What Men Don’t Say: Trust, Vulnerability & Emotional Safety | Ft. Jael “The Great”

Season 2 of the Ain’t No Manual Podcast begins with a powerful and necessary conversation.

In Episode 1, we sit down with Jael “The Great” author, actress, professor, and life coach to talk about something that doesn’t get said enough: what men actually carry emotionally.

This episode dives into trust, vulnerability, fatherhood, healing, and the importance of safe spaces for men to be seen, heard, and supported.

From the impact of a father’s voice to the truth about emotional safety in relationships, this conversation challenges perspectives and opens the door for deeper understanding between men and women.

We talk about:

• Why men need safe spaces to be vulnerable
• The impact fathers have on daughters
• Emotional validation and identity
• What women may not realize about men
• Healing without resentment
• Relationship roles and partnership dynamics
• Why “being strong” doesn’t mean being silent

If you’ve ever wondered what men don’t say out loud - this episode is for you.

🎧 Listen. Reflect. Share.

Because there’s still no manual for life, love, or fatherhood.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:07

Guys, we are back. We here, we here. We got the lights still on, so we must be doing something right. Doing all right. Paid the bill. Yeah, I paid on. I think so. Minimal. You gotta pay the minimal. Yeah. Ain't no manual podcast. I know what it is. Yeah, yeah. Trey D. Ron and K grandpa. Pop up. Chris. No, no, no. We got you.

SPEAKER_03 0:30

We got you.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

We have a historic moment right now. I wish we had a drum roll. First lady and the first lady, woman, queen to grace her presence on Ain't No Manual. And we're we're so gracious. So gracious. So gracious. Dr. Jael the Great.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Woo! I'm so honored. I'm not gonna cry. But thank y'all.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

Yeah. Don't cry because then I'm gonna cry. I didn't do that. You know what I mean? Chain reaction.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

I'm so excited. I'm so grateful. Oh, we thought we thank you for having me. Thank you all for having me.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

So, you have a lot of titles. I do. But the thing is, some people have titles and they're not really doing those, you know. You have the titles and there's proof that you're doing them.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

Right?

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:24

Author?

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

Award-winning actress? Yes, indeed. Keep going? Keep going. Professor. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Keep going.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

Hello. Did I say author already? You said author. Well, say it again. She's an author. Professor. Life coach. Yes. Actress. Actress. Producer. Yes. Director. That's right. Pooper woman. Can I just can I just get a little piece of time right now?

SPEAKER_01 1:49

Un poquito.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Yeah, un poquito. That was for you. It was. But thank you for being here. But you wear so many hats, but you wear them well.

SPEAKER_03 1:58

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

And thank you for being a part of this.

SPEAKER_03 2:01

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Now I have to say this.

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:05

Before I met you, I used to hear that term life coach. Okay. And it used to scare me, it used to freak me out.

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

I was like, I don't want nobody telling me how to live my life. Right? That's what I thought well life was.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Got you.

SPEAKER_02 2:20

But you invited me out one day and we came, I can't remember what location it was, but you said you were reclaiming, reclaiming your kingdom, right? Right. And you were telling us about what you were doing, and you told us to just come out. I was like, okay, I gotta come because it's you. But I'm thinking, life coach, I don't want nobody telling me how to live my life. Well, we got there, it was one of the most amazing events, brother. Nice. I didn't cry until I left. You held it in. I held it in. But it's really what you do for us. I don't know why you do it, so you gotta explain why you do it. But being a life coach, you really help guide us. It's it's in us, it's in you, but you gotta bring it out. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Like a basketball coach. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

There you go. There goes basketball. Everything intertwines it. We got these kind of everything, it's circumfaced.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

So you get it. Yeah, I get it. It's no different than a business coach or uh somebody, uh, what's your coach that at the gym, the trainer at the gym? You it's already in us, okay. But sometimes we need someone to give us a different perspective. Sometimes we need someone to remind us of who we are. Because we forget because like happens, right? So sometimes you need someone to just coach you and give you like like a playbook for your life. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

It's amazing. I mean, seriously, like you changed my perspective and probably so many other people. But it's like, what led you there? I know you had another path, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

You be before you were coming to be in law.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

I yes, I you could not tell me I was not going to be an attorney. Yeah. Like you, I was a little arrogant about it in undergrad, like, you know, like all the other stuff that y'all talking about, I don't care. I'm gonna be an attorney, right? I mean, I was offered record deals.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

And when the people were unprofessional, like, you know, some of the men were a little bit unprofessional. So I was like, uh, no, because I'm gonna be an attorney. I'm not gonna compromise myself. I'm gonna be an attorney. Um, so I had to think that though, for God to bring me to Atlanta because you know, Emery was my law school of choice. And then when I got here, I started needing people in it. I didn't know how big it was with entertainment and music and whatnot. And I was where I worked for 100 Black Men Um under your father's leadership. And at when I was at 100 Black Men, this guy that was working with me, they knew that I they knew that I could sing. So he said, Jael, Robert Townsend is having an audition. You should go. And I didn't have a headshot, nothing. I just was like, you know what, people don't just say that to you. So I went, it was hundreds of people in line. I auditioned and I booked it.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 5:07

So it was all God was just like showing me, you know what I mean? Like this is what you're supposed to be doing, in addition to the other things. So um, yeah, that, but I my I thought I was going to become an attorney. I really did. Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

So on this journey though, it kind of talked about it. I just want to be clear. Okay. Did you realize that there were a lot of men here that poured into you that wanted to see you succeed? Or did Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

Yeah. So do okay, because did you ask me how I started with the men?

SPEAKER_02 5:37

No.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

Oh, okay, you didn't. Okay. No, I've always we can, but I'm gonna answer that first. You know what? And I never thought about that until you just asked me that. Yes, I have always been blessed to have healthy male relationships, and they will pour in some like I'm I mean, I I did not think of that until right now. Yes, even like in the in the workspace, like with the guy saying you should go. Yes, when I think about that, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 6:08

Because you know, it's a lot of times where you get the bad rap right men talking about the women, especially in our community, the women talking about the men, back and forth. Yeah, but you don't hear enough success stories about how we come together and pour and no men, I I'm I'm so grateful and so blessed that I am adored and respected with the utmost respect by the men in my life.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

Um I mean, from my father to my brother to my nephews to my male just counterparts and peers, whether it's on set. Like I have, I I think y'all are so magnificent. And I think y'all are so amazing, and you don't sometimes y'all don't realize it. So I think when we'll get to that of why I was chosen to do reclaiming your keen, is because of the respect and reverence I have for men. And that came from having an extraordinary father. So once we talk about that, we can get on that, right?

SPEAKER_03 7:10

Yeah, we we can do it.

SPEAKER_05 7:11

We can dive into it. First, I want to say that that means a lot. Um we get beat up by the world. Yeah. And and sometimes we just looking for some kind of recognition. Oh, somebody that give us a hug. That's right. You know, I'm a I'm a uh a girl dad. So my my daughter is nine years old. My gosh. Hell you know. So I'll lead with the question beautiful. How big of an impact was your father? And if you could take us through that and what you kind of got from him.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

It's massive. Right. My father's voice is the loudest voice in my head.

SPEAKER_02 7:50

Every day.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

Every day. Let me let me tell you, I'm gonna try not to cry. Knowing that my father lives in Illinois. My father doesn't even live in Atlanta, y'all. I'm from Illinois.

unknown 8:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

But the fact that I know I can call my dad, I always feel safe. I walk around with no fear. Like almost like God, because you know, of course, God, you know, of course, that's the number one father. We know that. However, with my earthly father, because of how he has loved me and poured into me and told me that I'm amazing and that I'm beautiful and that I can be whatever God has created me to be. You can't tell me anything. Right. Right. Like, like my father already validated me. I don't need any validation from the world. So I tell dads, and we don't always understand it when we're little girls, because how will we? It's all about your mother when you're little. Even as teenage girls, even maybe college age, you don't always understand the value of your father because it's all about the mom. But as you get older and you start matriculating through the dating and all those things, then your father's voice, you're like, wait a minute, right? Right? And especially when he has been pouring into you and pouring into you. So I tell dads, don't get discouraged if your daughter, you know, it's not all about dad at a certain point because it's just seasons. For some seasons, it's it's about the mother because she's the one that combs our hair. You know what I mean? Um, and then you know, you begin to understand the value of the father. But I tell fathers all the time what you say to us, whether she seems like she's listening or not, speak life into her because you're planting that seed, and one day it's going to harvest. And she's gonna remember. Wait a minute, my father told me let me give y'all, let me give y'all an example. How how cold my daddy is. And my dad is the one that taught me about unconditional love. So I was dating this guy, y'all. And I sing, y'all know I'm an act, I sing, I write, you know, I did all the things. So this guy that I was dating, he was a musician. So I brought him home and my dad met him. And my dad, and my dad is a pastor. So my dad said, um, he said, baby, you know, he said, that's so good that you know your boyfriend is artistic, he can sing and he can write. He said, but you know, you know, there's a man that can sing and write, and that's artistic that can also take care of you. That's all, that's all I needed to hear. He didn't say, Why are you dating this? You feel me? He resolved. Yeah, he didn't say, he didn't say any, he led with love. Yeah, he didn't say, Why are you dating him? What's wrong with you? I raised you better than that. You see how he said it to me.

SPEAKER_04 10:56

He got you thinking, got you to open up your own mind. Yes, say, what is he trying to like? Like, oh my god. Right.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

I said, He's right. What am I? And I immediately left that. I was like, oh, my father said I can have it all. Like, I'm not, you know. Wow. So it's just your impact is so vital. Trust me, it makes a difference.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

But you know what you just said, him speaking like the tongue, that didn't cost him a thing. So a lot of us think we gotta go hustle and do a make all this money, and yeah, there you go, right there. You're not even having the conversations with your daughter. Yeah, yeah, you don't cost nothing. It's free. Take note. Yeah, you don't have to be rich to raise a good girl and to impact your daughter, right? And I'm prompt like the way you speak about your father is like how I hope. Yeah. Like you said, we don't get all the you know the accolades and all that. We don't that's not what we do it for. Right. But you just hope that you know, once we they grow up and get older, they like, all right, dad did teach me this. Like me, open, I open up doors, and I just want to make sure. Yeah, I tell my daughter all the time if these dudes ain't doing these little things like they're not good enough for you. Yeah, right. Uh with daughters, you like they just they're daughters. I have sons and daughters. Okay, daughters are just different. Yeah, it's just different. Like everything I do is different because they're my little girls. Yeah, and so the way you speak about him is like how I hope.

SPEAKER_05 12:22

Yes, they will, you know. Yeah, I'm gonna say you don't have to worry.

SPEAKER_01 12:25

They will because I promise, even if it doesn't seem like it, when it's time and they're supposed to get it, they will. They're going to remember what you said.

SPEAKER_02 12:34

Right, yeah. That's how I'm hoping for because my 17-year-old, I don't understand her at all. I don't get her decisions, I don't get the way she thinks. But I'm just hoping I'm setting an example and feeding into it. I remember when she first talked about us meeting. Oh boy, and I hope she doesn't get mad, but luckily he didn't last that long. But I was like thinking the whole time, how am I gonna respond or meet this guy? But I didn't want to meet him at all. It's nothing she could tell me that made me want him to come to my house or I go meet him. You should have come up and set up in the garage with back. I feel like that's what uh it was about to lead to, you know what I mean? Because you knew he wasn't, I knew he wasn't that, but she tried to play on me about oh, he had hair like me. I don't care that don't make you amazing, right? I don't have mine now, right? But yeah, that that's deep. Like, I mean, that's real deep. Yeah, and so we're going back to reclaiming your kingdom. Okay, I know your father's a big inspiration. That's oh my god, that's whole clue. Yeah, but after the first one, so with okay with the first one, did it still have you motivated to keep doing it? Because I know you probably had some guys in there with all kinds of crazy issues or didn't seem like they could figure out the path, they were just going blindly, right?

SPEAKER_01 13:50

But you know what? That's just what the space is for, yeah. You know what I mean? Just like it's for that, it's for you to come and you don't know, or you're trying to figure it out, or it's for you to come if you have figured it out because you have done the work and you can pour into the other men, so it's for everybody. But here's the thing I was prophesied by this lady that I would do ministry for men. And when she was prophesying to me, in my mind, I was like, girl, first of all, not a man, you know, I'm girl. Oh my god. I said, first of all, I work with women, okay? I do reclaim your queendom. I don't, you know, um, because it didn't make sense, right? But God says I use the foolish things of the world to confound the wide, right? So once this is how this is how I started it. I recorded an audiobook. I have it's on my website. It's called the Great Audiobook of Affirmations. Okay, so I recorded the book, I shot the commercial, did all the things, the computer crashed that that book was on. I know. So I was like, dang it. So maybe like a year after the computer crash, God said, redo your book. So I was in the studio recording the great audiobook of affirmations, finished it right after that. God said, Do one for men. And I said, Do one for men. I said, Okay, because I'm very obedient. So I immediately recorded the great audio book of affirmations, the king edition. Okay. So it's me speaking life into men. So you hear my voice, and I might say, I am an amazing father. And then you repeat it, I am an amazing father, right? I did a book launch for the men loved it. I had my father on the panel, I had other men, I had all men. I had male artists, I had a male saxophone player, I had a male psychologist interview me first, then I had the male panel. So that's how it started. And then after that event is when I did the actual event that you came to. And with Reclaiming Your Kingdom, it's it's such a safe space. And the testimonials I hear, and I hear the men talk about everything. Right. You are when I tell you anything you can think of right now, I heard it. And here's the thing what it did for me. I didn't know that y'all went through so much. Right? Because society does not show you all in a way for us to feel empathy. Society only shows us, not all of society, but only shows us like, oh, he doesn't take care of his children in some aspects. Oh, he's a cheater. Oh, he, right? That's not every man's story. So society also doesn't show that you all have feelings, that your feelings get hurt. So I've had women come to reclaim your queendom and say to me, Jael, I didn't know men have feelings. So think about it. If a woman is with you and she doesn't believe you have feelings, she's not gonna treat you like you have feelings. That's true. You see what I'm saying? So I so I educate the women on because I hear all this from men, and I'm like, girl, to be honest with you, not that it's a comparison by any means, but they may be, they may go through a little bit more than you do, sweet. You know what I mean? Yeah, so and the difference is the women will get together and talk. See, we'll talk and say, This is what happened to me when I was six. Y'all don't really do that. Nah, you hold it in. So at reclaiming your kingdom, what happened to him at six, he feels comfortable enough to talk about it amongst strangers. And he feel right because it's because it's God's work and there's an anointing in the room, right? Because it's not, I'm not doing it just to do it, I'm doing it because I'm on signment. And the men feel it. And I've heard men say to me, Jael, I've been to all kinds of men retreats. I've never felt this safe in a room full of strangers. So it's really beautiful. And yes, I've heard there's nothing I haven't heard, right? Like literally. And it doesn't do anything for me, but I know how to cray. And it just I just love y'all so much. So it's like, and then here's another thing out because I was asking God, like, why did you choose me to do this? And what I realized is I'm not jaded when it comes to men. Like, because I cannot be a blessing to you if I see you less than a king. Right? If I see you and I see my daughter's father, I'm just saying, y'all, we love him. But I'm just saying, you know, somebody that's hurt me before. Yeah, if I see you, if every time I see you, I think about him, yeah. My energy towards you is going to be that even if I'm not conscious of it. So what I realize is another reason God chose me is because I'm healed. I don't have any ill wills towards any man. Right. And I focus more on the good from men than I focus on anything I've been through with a man. Of course I've been through things with men. I've I've experienced heartbreak, but that's not even my focus.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

Right.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

Because that was just a person. All men are not like that, right? And then I haven't been perfect. Right. So sometimes we forget to look in the mirror. Yeah, he cheated, but have you cheated before? Yeah. We, you know what I mean? Like, we've all yeah, yeah. So yeah, I look at you guys with such a reverence. So I that's why I'm able to do what I do.

SPEAKER_05 19:03

I think no matter men or women, there are, this is what I'll say. There are good and bad people, right? Yeah, or people that have made bad decisions, yeah, good decisions. Um, that's not like germ the one sex, it's not germ the one sex, exactly. So you can't just like get mad at all men because you had a bad experience, it's like we can't get mad at all women. But what I will say is the tale of like what was really important to me, and I don't know if women realize this enough. Okay, when we're trying to pick a person we want to spend the rest of our life with, can we be vulnerable around you? Can we trust you with our heart and feelings? Can we cry around you without you feeling like we're soft? Yeah, because there's nothing soft about it. It's not you don't want to hold that stuff in because eventually it'll uh it come to a head, explode, and you'll end up hurting somebody, hurting yourself, or just not being able to navigate through the world as you should and be as powerful as you can be. Yeah, so to all the women out there, you we need your support, we need to be able to be vulnerable around you, and it helps us to be able to get up faster. Yeah, and not just faster, but get up better. Like fail forward. Yeah, because when you fail and somebody's kicking you while you're down, it it just keeps compounding hurts and hurts. When you fail or fall and somebody's lifting you up, yeah, then you become you just become better. So I just appreciate like your perspective on sure horns of thank you, lifting us up. Yeah. Um, and we gotta do a better job of of being a better representation of a man, though.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Well, that's why we here. This that's what we're doing this for.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

I love it.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

And I and I and I gotta put emphasis on it. Like you said, it goes both sides. Absolutely. We always hear the stories of the man not doing this, a woman not doing that, and it's the blame game, what the man's roles are. So I gotta ask you that too. Throw that in there. Yeah, we were talking about that. Do you believe in roles?

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Okay, so so let me just say this first. So I grew up with my my mom and my dad, my parents are still together. So a lot of times our beliefs come from what we have seen. Right. So my father was the type of man my mom said when they first got married, they graduated from Jackson State, they moved to Illinois, they got married, my mother got pregnant with my sister, and my dad said to her, I don't, baby, I don't want you to work. Right. So this is he's what, 22, 23 at the time? And he had that that mentality. So my so my My mom said, She said, I told your dad, I think that's beautiful. But I I I don't I want to work. And she said, We can use my money because at the time it was just my sister though, but you know, to take our, you know, to take our daughter to Disney World and to the Hamptons. And, you know, we can we can use my money for things like that, you know, because my dad wanted to take care of his family. And I remember seeing my father, I remember my father working two and three jobs until he didn't have to anymore. So, so okay, and I also remember my my father would be at all of my games because I was a total time boy. I played every sport. Like I was like I was like a little boy. I was like a little boy, y'all. So my dad, my dad showed up to all my games. My mother showed up to all my plays. I was in the orchestra. She came to those things. So I don't know how they decided that. So when you ask me about roles, um, I think they did what worked best for them. You know what I mean? Within the household. Like they they had three children eventually after my sister, then me and my brother. So I think they did they they did the their roles, it was based on who was better at what. Okay, so like my mom, she did all the finances because she was better at at the you know, at the time at the finances. So I think it I think it depends on you and how you're wired. It's so many different factors. Some men are better caretakers, they just are. Some men are better nurturers.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

You don't hear it enough, but it's true.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

It's true. Some men are so amazing with the children, and the mom just she doesn't have it.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Hey, I don't care. A better cook.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

Yes, yes. Men, I think men are better.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

Well, listen, I want my wife to go be so wealthy where I can just sit back and you know get an allowance.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Yes, there's nothing wrong. I ain't gonna be bad at that.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

No, but even even with my dad, like a lot of people know him for being a visionary, this and that. My mother was the breadwinner for so long and supported his visions until he got to where he needed to go, and then my mom could relax. See, but she still don't want to be still, you know. She still wants to move.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

She sounds like my dad.

SPEAKER_05 24:11

I can't be still thinking a lot of men connect being a man or that power or that power to taking care of, and that's okay if that's what they think. But I just think, like you said, to your point, whatever works, yeah. Yes is what you don't want either one to be super stressed either. Exactly. You don't want to have a guy working two, three, four jobs when you have a capable uh helpmate.

SPEAKER_04 24:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:39

Society, society has played such a big role. But what did our last guest say, which really still resonates with me? Oh, wow. Control the world around your kids, control the wild world around yourself, and you'll figure it out. It makes a big difference when you realize you can control so much.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Yeah, just whatever the family God gave you, you all do your family, how you feel led to do it. It doesn't matter what anybody says or thinks. Because at the end of the day, if you're making choices based on somebody else, you'll be miserable. Yeah, and they're happy, but you're miserable. That's true. Yeah, so you know.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

Well, I'm so I hate that we couldn't, because I we never got to get on even the actress part of it. It's so many things. We're gonna do another part. We gotta do a part. Okay, we gotta do a part two. We need to get to part to the meetup, we got so many layers that we can unfold. We gotta do a series and get a chance. Yeah, we need we need to do a series, really. Even my biggest thing when I saw it, I was like, I know her from the country wave idea and stuff. So we you know, so we gotta do a part two. We gotta get your back and we gotta tap back into some more things about you. Uh thank you. What do our dad? No, Ryan got some. Oh, we got it for you. We got you got some news though. We didn't tell you about this. Oh, this excites us. Okay, don't think, don't think you doing empire of stuff too. I do often, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:52

So you're just quick questions. If you want to expand upon them, you can, but it's just you know, quick questions. So break number one. Okay. Timeout or BTA. I don't know what BTA is. Oh my god, I don't thought you would have known that.

SPEAKER_04 26:07

Belts of ass. So let me say this.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

It depends on the child. Yeah, you have to know your child. You listen, because some children, they're like, well, just spank me and get it over with. Right. I have no eat it. Yeah, you're right. So you is it a girl or a boy? It's a boy. So you need to make him do push-ups and like walls.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

On the wall, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Yeah, you gotta, you know. So I think it depends. And if you do spank your child, I firmly believe you should only spank him on their butt. Okay. Like that's what it's for. Like this little, you know what I mean? Is that what that cushion is for? Yeah, that's what it's for. Don't hit them, don't, you know, don't beat them.

SPEAKER_04 26:46

Yeah, I gotcha. Okay. Yeah, we don't condone no, please.

SPEAKER_05 26:49

Children on this podcast. Summer or winter? Oh. Autumn. Nice. Underexposure or overexposure. So when it comes to kids, do you want to oh, expose them to things?

SPEAKER_04 27:06

Or you know how some parents think you shouldn't expose them? No, I was exposed to a lot. I think I should actually worked out.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 27:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:13

Hot or lemon pepper? Lemon pepper. There you go. Order out or home cooking? Home cooking. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

So you don't like Mambo sauce? Is that DC Chapel, though?

SPEAKER_03 27:24

Mambo sauce.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

Oh, okay. Never mind. Keep going.

SPEAKER_03 27:27

Carb or truck. Truck.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

Chris Brown or Usher.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Chris Brown.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Yeah, see, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

I love Chris Brown. I love Usher too, though. But if I had to pick, I went to both their concerts. Yeah, Chris Brown.

SPEAKER_05 27:41

Open invitation for Chris Brown and Usher. Yeah, uh sporting events or concerts. Oh, both. Can I pick both? You can do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_04 27:52

Yeah, I like your show. Both today. Oh. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:55

Pancakes or waffles. Ooh, both. Beef or chicken. Neither.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

Neither. Fish.

SPEAKER_03 28:04

Vegetable.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

Oh, yeah, vegetarian.

SPEAKER_03 28:07

Bootleg. There you go.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

Booyama. Bootleg. Oh, the real segment.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

Yeah, that's new.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

We do a segment. This was so fun. We'll do a segment. We got another one. We call uh you know fit check. Fit check. Fit check. Oh, yeah. Just talk about what we, you know, what we're wearing. I love it. So that Dazda still got it.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

Yeah, y'all got on cute tennis shows. Yeah, see.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

See? I was looking at the tennis shoes. I was looking at your socks.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Because I love fashion. Y'all look really cute. Fashion, too. Thank you. And I love how it's different.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

Yeah, actually.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

You got the own little vibe.

SPEAKER_02 28:40

We talk in our dressing room before we come out. I'm really a nerd. It's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

I'm a nerd. I'm I am too. Such a nerd.

SPEAKER_05 28:47

Ron, what you got going on? Uh Olive Dunks. Ummy sweater, Tommy button down. If you know, you know. If you don't read my bio. Uh Taylor May. I'm a golfer.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

He's a golfer. Oh cool. Golfer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:59

It's a nice hat. Real golfer.

SPEAKER_02 29:01

So I'm proud to say, you know, I've come on with a lot of different outfits. This is Amazon fine. Love it. I wanted to be comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Are you in a field? Do you have an affiliate link?

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Yes, of course. Okay. I will share that. Shout out to Amazon. So I can make a little monkey short. The pants and the and the hoodie. Amazon. Oh, because I love those socks. Yeah, my wife. She she picked that out. Yes, white. But these are my favorites. I always talk about the Jordan ones. I love them. Those are cute. New color scheme. Can you see the back? Oh no yellow. Love it. Okay. There we go. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 29:33

Oh, you got it. It's on you.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

Oh. So I'm not getting paid from these brands yet. Okay. Okay. But I will. So because some a manifest. I'm a manifest getting paid from Rolex. Okay. See? Role. Um, okay. My sister's a stylist. Siri Rose Boutique Vintage. Okay. These bangles were gifted by her. Okay. You know, I'm not getting paid the CBRT, but they gotta pay me. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

Guarantee. Don't care. But I just love those boots too. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 30:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:02

Me, Armani, like like usual. Uh, white top, Marty Jiggas, Jordans, happy match. You know me. Real spool, real casual, real cool.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

You need you need to start tagging them so they can start paying. If you wear that on this podcast, make sure my people working on that already.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

We're working on that already. We're gonna get on my own. That's right. You got a tip?

SPEAKER_05 30:25

Dad tip. Um, and it kind of goes into what we ties into what we've been talking about. Um be the man that you want your daughter to be with. Again, slightly characteristics, right? We we talk about opening, uh, opening doors, we talk about pulling out chairs. Um, you're her first link to how a man is supposed to treat caps. A woman. Yeah. So watch what you do around any woman, even if you have a disagreement, even if you know, we'll just watch your tone, watch your mannerisms, because she's gonna look it at you, and then once she gets older, she'll know what to look for.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:07

That was my good tip.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

Good tip. I'm sorry. I'm gonna have a problem if he's my doppelganger, my twin. Tell her I'm still not gonna be okay. You know, I just gotta get there.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

Oh, yeah, you'll get there.

SPEAKER_02 31:17

But a good tip.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

But you know what? Y'all will get there though.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

I hope I hope she gets to live a free life because I'm still believe I need to see everything she's doing. Yeah, but we'll get there. We'll appreciate you. We really appreciate you being drop gyms. We're gonna speak it into existence. We gotta do part two. We got a lot more to talk about. But thank you for coming. Another great episode, a historic episode. Ain't no man yours podcast. Thank y'all for tuning in as always. Subscribe. See you again real soon. Subscribe. All of it. Call me. Peace.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

I love it.