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Cowboys. Warriors Nights, the season's on the line, arguing all the odds and predictions. It's a sign. Smashing buttons online, got the console glowing, bright, just three mates talking, trashing, and arguing all night. It's all just bantering noise. Incoherent and disconnected now. Lost in the mayhem. Trying to make sense of it somehow. Sports and games and shouting. Yeah, that's what we are about. The Incoherent podcast. Let's hear you shout it out to the incoherent podcast. Episode 28.2. Point two 0.2 because okay. Freaking flicking the dial so that everything echoes and it sounds like shit. Mm-hmm. Trying to put frigging quality over quantity sort. Quality and quantity. I'll get to that later. Yeah, I wasn't crying'cause the nights lost. The nights were beat fine. The night have blocked convincingly, convincingly. I was listening to it at work and I turned it off, I'd had enough. Yeah, I feel sorry for the course here'cause he is a good player, but he, he let in a lot of points, not that it would've made that big of a difference. I don't think the, he would've, well he would've got dropped this weekend anyway. I don't, yeah, I think they holding that spot available though. I think he might've been able to hold onto a bench spot, but he's lost his bench spot as well, so. Well hey, at least Dom Young's consistent fight with what? Consistently being shit. Yeah, I was sitting catch ball, I was sitting in the truck and they were like, oh, Dom Young's put it down. I fucking old dick fingers. So, yeah. And what did I tell you? Round one? He's fine. I was reading before he is out to prove a point, so he did say that and he found a new leaf on life back in Newcastle. Yeah, it just stay with the tigers there. What do you think Benji does with Jock Madden? He's done enough. He's done enough to keep that six roll and Lou, I be sort of, not eased back, but bring back through either 14 and just let him sort of come on and break a game apart. Do, do you reckon Adam Dewey's gonna keep his spot? I think Dewey has done enough. Dewey could leave with that or you gotta move Dewey to 13. Yeah, he doesn't lose the starting spot. Yeah. Yeah. Dewey to 13 for sure. And Jock back in there, that's what I read earlier, is that that, that the option is for Dewey to go to to 13. I don't think you're putting him out in the outside backs. No, but Lui's not a seven so. I don't know whether could, could you move Madden, drop Madden go to seven? I don't know if he'd handle the pressure. Playing six is a bit easier on him. He can just sort of, he's a little bit more experienced time, eh, so I think he can fucking kick the ball. But yeah, no, he is been playing well. He, he deserves his spot. Yeah. He's gone up and spent time at the Broncos under Reynolds and McGuire and in that culture of a winning Premiership team and come back to the Tigers a better player for it. So, you know, I credit to him, but yeah, I, I think the Tigers are going pretty well. It's a pretty good headache for Benji to have, to be honest. Honest. So I think, I think, yeah, but that's, that's, that's what we said about the Warriors too. It's a good headache to have, having too many halves and eight and Yeah, look at that. It is the same thing. It's like, it's like I said to you before the. They need to give Tana Boyd the keys to control the team and run the team and direct the team. And Medcalf just chips in when he sees an opportunity. And they'll be, they'll be better off. No. Well, CHT deserves it. Didn't they? Didn't they? Um, can't, you can't, you can't take Chanel away from it at the moment. Didn't they lock Metcalf on big money long term though. Yeah. Plenty of other teams have lost players in on big money. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. He's coming back from injury on an injury. I don't, I don't see him shopping him around and getting rid of him. No, they around. But I think at the moment he'll play that 14 role. Yeah. And if things aren't working, then Boyd or Chanel gets hooked. Yeah. But I, I think the one that loses a role there is Yeah. Young hooker that. Sam Henry. Not Henry. He's not the one that's been coming on, is he? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Henry, I think his name's Henry. Yeah. The one that's been replacing Wade Egan. Yeah. Yeah. It even means Egan's gotta play big minutes again. Or which you can do. But see, I think, I think they're just resting him'cause he's fucking, he. I still think, I still think Avita Harris is a great defender and can offer a lot in Lock Harris as the ball playing. Nah. Yeah. Too small. Too small. No, I think, I think he could do that. I don't think you have to be big to play lock now it's too small. When you've got like Kurt Kate, well fucking Dominic, Dimitri. No, but because you've got, because you've got those bigger players up the front, you probably don't need that extra big body. You could have a little quick creative sort of player in around the R there to take pressure off the Harve. He doesn't push Aaron Clark get that 13 year rule. Well, they've just resigned Aaron Clark till 2029 as well. It, it's come out today that Aaron Clark signed on until 2029. Yeah. But Harris Avita comes in for, to give Aaron Clark a rest when, at the end of a half, or you know, the beginning of a second half when those, when those big forwards are tied around, around rocking that, you know, it creates opportunity. That means, yeah, but that means your forward rotation gets limited on the bench because you're gonna have Harris DaVita, he starts six. Yeah. Meka. Meka doesn't start. So then Harris DaVita's gotta go from six. Yeah. But when do you six 13. When do you bring Medcalf in though? I think he's only there. He's not in four. I think he's just there as. Just in case. Yeah. Yeah. If the game's not going to plan you throw him out there because he's the same and can as, and he can break a game apart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he come back probably a couple weeks early from his knee. Yeah. And he's got that in the back of his head that he's only one slight twist away from being done again. Not lot. Yeah. He isn't named this week. Is he still out? He's not. He's not named, no. Yeah. Yeah. Back to the Tigers for a minute. Was saying with Dewey, like 12 twelve's been playing lock 12 can obviously push up front, but twelve's been doing really well at lock. What about with all this crap that's been going on with Bullock?'cause usually where they smoke, there's fire about gonna Canterbury, which I don't know why Canterbury warn him because. Tracy's killing it. To be fair, if they're still having drama with Buller and Buller's trying to get out, why would you try do it? Fullback? No, he's not. He's not quick enough. He's not, he's not quick enough to be a fullback, I don't reckon. Well they had him playing in the centers. Yeah, but fullback's a different position than a center. He organizing that defensive line, I think, I dunno how we'd go with that. He hasn't done it. I think he'd be right. I think, I think you could give him an opportunity and you can get that little, you know, there's probably no armor anyway. But Buller also come out the other day and said that for anyone that's sort of writing the tigers off, look out. Yeah. Like he pledged his allegiance there this year. Like I wouldn't be surprised if, if fucking pains me to say it. The Tigers don't make a play at Got drink water. I, I don't think they will, I don't think the tigers will make her play it. Drink water. I understand why it would make sense if bull's unhappy. The bull, the dragons have offered him a$3 million contract. Yeah. Dogs have been thrown up and so are the sharks. But if pull, if pull goes the dragon there goes clin gson. No. Well, the dragons are trac drink water. The dragons are chasing drink water. Buller's been offered or he is talked with the dogs, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Well the Cowboys, the Cowboys have told drink water that he can look elsewhere. He can negotiate. And they've also, they've also told what she's Yeah. Murray to a lung. Yeah. They've told him. He's supposed been linked with the roosters. Tupo is waiting to hear what the roosters think. Whether or not he plays on, he's the same age as us. He's nearly 37. He's 36, 37. He'll keep playing. And the rooster they're losing Za anyway. Yeah, the roosters have gotta replace Mark. No, Wonka need to ask. I gotta watch extra games this week.'cause I was cruel not, Hey, I were not. I was crook. I was so cruel. If anyone, I dunno if anyone, I dunno if anyone noticed, but I was very late at putting the podcast out last week and it was because I was crook. I could not even see You weren't, you were in Newcastle. You told me I was. That was on Thursday. Yeah. What day does our podcast get released? Thursday. I had, that's right. Had to go down Newcastle. Newcastle do stuff. I didn't get down Un I didn't get home until late. I was doing stuff with the kids for the school holidays. You were home when I drove past. You don't know where my house is? Yeah, I do. Do. Would you like me to give your address over the podcast? No. No, but you don't have it. I do muscle ball anyway. I watched the Dragon Sea Eagles game and I don't think Shane Flanigan is to blame for all the dragon's problems and I don't think sacking him is gonna change anything. They need a clean out and I sort of come up with a little bit of a fucking with players that have been with players that have been told they can negotiate or off contract. I've got three players that I think could help help the dragons to improve and build a bit of stability over a couple of years to Dr. Phil. Couldn't help the dragons. Okay, the dragons done. I would like to see the dragons do what they're talking about with the tigers. They need to cut ties with their previous clubs and become their one. They, they merge clubs. They need to form that fucking identity moving forward. Yeah. I, there's more going on in the background. I agree with that. I agree with that. There's what's going on in the background. I, I watched something the other day and it, it really clicked. But Benji being at West Tigers like coming through back in fucking oh five fucks sake. He's always been West Tigers. He wasn't Alain, he wasn't West. He was just West Tigers. Yeah. So he is something. So maybe that's something that St. George need to look at. Yeah. Bringing somebody in. That was back then around the whole merge. That was just St. George, not Illa. You. Yeah. You gotta be that one club. Yeah. Mundane. No, I, I agree with that. Mundane. They need mundane. There. No mundane, mundane, played for St. George before the merger. He played for the Broncos as well. Yeah, but still. Yeah, but he's the man. Man, you're on your own. I don't feel like getting punched Fuck out of as, as, as bad, as bad as everyone hates him and all that. He was a fucking good player. Oh no, he was a, he was a really good player. It's just the, a black was better the thing, the thing is, yeah, but I don't, he created a lot of the opportunities, like he was a really good player. Like when he gave it away, it was a, like, I didn't know about his dad doing the boxing and that. I wasn't old enough to know about all that stuff. He got up and left. It's like, well, this good player's throwing everything away. He was, he was a really, really good player. It was more the fact that as I've got older and I've learned that comments that he made that he was snubbed for state of origin because he was aboriginal. When the person he got snubbed for was Laurie Daly, who's aboriginal. Like, it doesn't make sense. It's just those sort of comments that brings, brings his sort of character down. But no, he was a really good player. He wasn't. He was an unbelievable player, but it was just in that time when there was a lot of good halves around like a Laurie Daley, a Brad Fittler, Andrew John's, Matthew John's, you know, in that New South Wales sort of setup. Trent Barrett is around that time. Craig er, well, there was a lot of good halves, but my thing is I'm not the off the field stuff at the Dragons, we wouldn't know what is actually going on. We're not in the inner sanctum, but looking from the outside. In as a fan, I've thought of three people they could sign that I think could give them a little bit of a, a stability of a spot that they can develop juniors and push into that thing just like Penrith did.'cause remember Penrith went through and bought James Maloney, James, Jamie Seaward, Tom Tommy, you know, they bought heaps of players that were older players in that and brought'em in to create a culture. And it gave time for all the youth and the juniors to form and come through and then push into that first grade squad. And now they're seeing the fruits of it. It takes time to do that. But I think if they go and get Humphreys from the rabbits,'cause the rabbits dunno if they can resign him. He's a very good player. You keep Atkinson, you push Atkinson to six, you put Humphreys in as your seven and your mastering commander, you can put Flanagan two 14. He can do a job from 14. You could also got them chasing Scott drink water, who is a very creative and energetic player and will push the team around the field. He could captain that club given the opportunity and the other player that I'd be having to look at to Colin Watson. Mm-hmm. To come in and play Hooker. And he's also been told that he can negotiate with other clubs. There are three players that can create a platform that you can get other players off. Obviously they've lost Jaden Sewer, but they've got KGI coming as well. Kgi Kgi coming from the rabbit. So they've got an Australian Ford that is coming that can lead that forward pack. But I think if they go to market, they try to pick up Humphrey's Con Watson and drink water. I think that'll turn the club around. Who do you let go Atkinson or Flanigan? Neither of them. I don't think you need, I don't think you need to let go of'em. No. Yeah, you keep, you keep Atkinson for six and Flanagan goes to 14th. Then he can't play Hooker. So you gotta make sure you've got an 80 minute hooker. Damien Cooks 36 years old. He's Yeah. Con Watson. Con Watson can go to Hooker. Mm-hmm. He's a better lock. But you put Connor Watson, the hooker, they've still got little there that can come in for Connor Watson. Watson can go in and do a job, or Watson can drop back to lock. It's not, it's, it wouldn't be that impossible. Flanigan still only come on and play six or seven. Well, Flanigan not gonna use him to play lock. Shane Flanigan is not gonna go move Cole on. There's gonna have to be a, a agreement between both of them to be able to, to be able to do that. I don't, he's not gonna do that I don't think Shane's there come origin, I think gone by round. I don't think Sack and Shane's gonna help anything. Who are they gonna put in there? That's better. I, I have a belief that he, you could see Jamie so at the Dragon. Yeah. But then he froze away his coaching role with the girls. Not if he just coaching role. He's the dragon. I was watching an interview with him and the Dragons have completely snubbed him and done wrong by him and they sacked him. But he's not coaching the girls. No. Who's coaching the girls now? I dunno. I mark Adele. I have no idea. Bring the pig back. Well see. Piggy Mark. Adele does his frigging two HD stuff like, yeah, but see, piggy Piggy was involved with the girls' football too. He, I think he's involved with the juniors. I Junior was still there. That's why I thought maybe, yeah. He, he, he's very proud. Don't, I don't think I'm pretty. I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure he is still with the girls. I'll, I'll have a look, but I don't think he is.'cause I was reading a thing because even with his 2010, the grand final reunion, he never got an invite for it or anything. Like they, they'd done him. Yeah. Did they give him a barbecue for Nathan Cross? Nathan Cross is the St. George Little world of Dragons. NRLW. Head coach for the 2025 season last year. Yeah, that was last year. And then I'll put in Jamie. So coaching, so. Yeah, he is the former head coach of the St I Warrior Drag Women's thing. Yeah. And I think he left and yeah, he got James Grain talking on the by round about it. But either way, if you go down that, that route of getting rid of that whole merger, just becoming one, they won't do that. No, I understand what you're saying. I, I honestly believe that the dragons need to move to move to the IL warrior like Wollongong, one stadium, not two. The same with the West Tigers. They need to pick LY card or Campbelltown. They, they need to stay in one spot. They can't. No, but I think that, I think the Bears should do the same thing. I don't think the Bears should be coming back and playing games in North Sydney. They should be just identifying themselves as a Western Australian team and build off. Being in Western Australia, it's gonna take time. You're not gonna have, you don't need instant success if you put the right, sort of lay the right foundations for your juniors to come through and build off that you can have success from that. You don't have to keep coming back to Sydney to get players. Then you'd be also saying that you can't have the roosters come up and play at Central Coast. Yeah, well that's a, that's more a fucking location type thing of where they are. They're in Bondi. Yeah. There, there's no, there's no junior base around for the roosters and they pinch it from, that's why they pinch from south and that all the time seems like an them problem. It's, it's a them problem. I'm, I, I'm not that worried about it. I'm just like, there's big catchment areas all over the place. Like Newcastle, Newcastle's a big catchment area in itself, but they can extend to Tar Eco's Harbor'cause there's nobody to cover that sort of position. You get to like Fort Macquarie and that. And then the Titans cover that Northern New South Wales area as well as their, their catchment. So Broncos like Taree people? Yeah. Well, people end up where they end up, to be honest, like Newcastle, Greg Engli was in Newcastle and they said that they didn't want him, and Melbourne ended up with him and benefited from that. And then he ended up at Souths. Penrith got beat this week as well. I really didn't expect it. Doggies. Hey, doggies. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think, I don't think a lot of people got that one right. I don't think anyone got that one right. I, I didn't expect the bulldogs to come out and have the game that they did. To be fair, I did say that it could very well be. A Slog Fest like last year with that eight, six result. And Yeah. But way Penrith for flying and I kind of, who's the riff got this week? Um, silent, no. Um, dolphins. The s Are Dolphins coming off of by as well. Yeah. Yeah. Where's Tio O Stadium. Hey Tio O Hang on. In Darwin, the Fins are taking their, that pen have their first loss and then they gotta get on a plane and go to fucking Darwin. Yeah. Is there another upset? Do they lose two? I don't think so. I, I thought this as well because, um, the, the Panthers are missing McLean and they're also missing Liam Martin. Yeah, but they were winning start season with Martin. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But, but, um, the dolphins have just come off an absolute lacquering as well before the buy, but they've had a week to think about it, so it's actually a, well, I'm still picking Penrith. I don't think Penrith would lose two in a row. No. So I think it's more how badly they lost, to be honest. Like they were shell shocked. Oh, definitely. Um, definitely mind you. You by that Targa coming straight in for Yeah. Yeah. Cleaning. I, I, I don't think you're not losing a whole heap. No, but I think it'll be a little bit closer than what you think. I think the dolphins will be up for it, but I think Penrith win it out in the end, you know, I think going up there very humid Darwin, it's big change from the base of the mountain. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Um, be fairly, fairly cool down Sydney at the moment, like Yeah. We'll do our previews in a minute anyway, but, um, I wanted to get to the Broncos Cowboys game, other than the fact they won, what do you think the most impressive part of that game was that Jason Tamal Lolo warning the clock back. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's fair enough. He's got a knee, he got a clean out or something. He, he's been going really well. So he's, he's averaging over 200 meters a game. Yep. With 50 minutes. 50. I, that's, give him the full, I wanna see the sheriff give him the 80 and get over 300 meters. I, that's probably the first time I've sat down and watched Duffy play a game. And he controlled that game extremely well. I told you he would. Yeah. But he was not taking Tom spot. No, he had his shot first few weeks last season. He lost Clifford come in, took the reins and didn't let him go. Yeah. But what I will say outta that though is that the Broncos have moved to sign Duffy long term. They also had Pez it coming. Yeah, they've still got MIM there. Ben Hunt said he might play on next year. Ben Hunt doesn't get resigned. I don't think Reynolds plays on next year. I don't think Reynolds sees the season. You've still got Walter's there as well, and they've got P coming get moved on. Well, they've got Pez coming 14. Well, Pez hasn't really lit the world on fire at Parramatta, and Duffy just proved that he can push that team around the field. You still would have that backup like Billy Walters. If he gets resigned, him and PAKEs could come on and play. Six or seven roll. Yeah. Yeah. It still makes that peasant one a strange sign. Like the way that it, the way that it's been set up. That's the thing. Like peasant signed, then Payne Hus goes, right, I'm leaving. Yeah. A couple weeks after Peasant. Peasant goes to the Broncos next year I can see Pat Carrigan saying I'm siding with Papua New Guinea. Yeah. I think Carrigan's half got a foot out the door, I think. Oh, for sure. He said the other week that there's some, the old ma behind. Yeah, him and maj him and maj eye to eye. I think there's more, more fire there. Mm. Yeah. But, but anyway. Johnson, you wrote the Cowboys off. After round one lost to the Knights. And where's the Knight sitting? Where's the Cowboys sitting? The Knights have beaten the Cowboys this season. Not that the Cowboys haven't beaten the Knights. Calm down. Have the knight beaten the Warriors who won the game? Have the noticeable warrior is she might. No, they haven't. I put the Warriors in me. Fucking top four. And you just told me I was stupid. Yeah, well, Zach told me I was stupid. You are. I, I didn't even put once, won't finish top four. They're going pretty well. They, they run the sword through Melbourne. Who? That's another team. They're, they're really struggling. Like I've never seen soldiers drop'em down your ladder. They're, they didn't believe me. I don't think I've ever seen'em sitting in 13th in a season ever. Oh, well, yeah. Before kick off of a season. Yeah. But dragons are definitely the standout. Favorites for the wooden spoon at this side of the season. And you know, there's, oh, there's probably a couple of teams there that could have a, have a push at the grand final. At this stage, I think, I think Panthers are still cowboys. Wife still favorites. Um, anyway, move on to our preview or tips. Preview cowboys, sea eagles. Wait, I'm not ready in Townsville. Whoever you just picked 50 in the bin. Cowboys, Ubers, cows, cowboys. I think I've gone cowboys too. I'll bring up the tips again. I actually took Cowboys by 30. What also took, also took Penrith by 30 last week or two. No, I've got, I've got Cowboys by 14. Um, I don't know what I took actually. I haven't done a cowboy. I'm, I'm gonna take them by, well, I have 16. I have the Cowboys by 20, uh oh, 30 to 10. 30 to 10? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Would you have I turbo to do his hamstring in first 10 minutes? Mm-hmm. Mind you, I don't, I don't think me and Lee played all that bad last week. They, they did play the Dragons? No, they're playing a lot better since Sea Bolt's been moved on, I think. I think it's got a lot to do with trick shots and confusion. They're just playing simple footy straight up through the Fords and then the back's gotta go. Think Fords match it with cowboys. I think they, I think they can be cowboys, but I'm not, I'm not, no, no. I've gone the cows. But I think they can fucking, they can, the forward pack, Emily's forward pack can stand up. Tamal. I'm not tamal. Lolo is gonna be good. I am very interested to see how Luki goes against Atu. Yeah. That'd be a good matchup. Mm. Yeah. On the edge. Um, but I'm, yeah. Hess is playing good footy. He is. I, I rate Hess. I was off him for the last couple of years because all of his fucking drop balls. But I, I'm, I'm back on Hess train. That, that he find good footy. Yeah. And the other one is fucking, um, Chester. Oh nah, Chester's good. And I rated Chester, but McKayley. Thomas McKayley off the bench. McKay's been killing it. He bring, Cowboys have never been a massive offloading team. McKayley coming off the bench likes an offload and I think it brings Chester, it brings Deer and Perdue and drink water right into the game against some tired forwards. Up the middle, I think. What do you, that's where many, you'll lose the game. That's what I was gonna ask you. What do you reckon the Cowboys are looking at? Chester to fullback or per Jew? Per J. Go to one. I'd almost be looking at Chester. Chest. Chest. It'll, it'll probably come down to how, who fills out best. Yeah. You look at all the centers in the game at the moment, a lot of them are like, they're really filled out through the arms and the chest and whoever fills out. Added them to, I think they'll, they'll stay at center. Either one can do a job either spot. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Um, the second game on Friday, six o'clock. Raiders Storm in Canberra. I can't pick the storm. I have to pick the Raiders. Will, you can pick the storm. You just tick the storm box. Yeah. I know I can do that, but I, I don't want to, why? I think the Raiders will beat'em. I think, I think the storm are in big, big trouble. Do you really? Craig Bellamy coach side. Yes. That has happened before. You think they lose five in a row? Yep. In Canberra. Canberra always play a good game against the storm as it is. Yeah, I know, but I. I just wanted your opinion because I took the Raiders as well. Fucking hell no. Well, you know, the Raiders just come off a frigging win over the rabbit os too, so, yes, you're fucking very close. I just don't, I'm not convinced with the Raiders, the, the rabbit are a better team than the storm at the moment. And going off that, I'm, I'm back nervous. Yeah, but you know what the storm's like, like Yeah, I know. Months used. I've only got a click. I know. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not confident in it, but, you know, monster's trying, he just can't get that creativity going. But Jerome Hughes is, he's disappointing me this season. He hasn't done fuck all. He's, he didn't have the preseason that he usually would. He was injured. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't play any trials. Didn't train as much, I think. Yeah. I'm, I'm the opposite. I don't even think Munster's doing quite enough. I think Munster's trying to generate something. There's just some sort of miss. There's a miss there. Char's not playing as many minutes as what he, he was last season. I dunno if that'd help. Um, the miss is sitting back at home and he's waiting on R 360 to kick off. Wish I'd No, he's gonna be there. He just said there's a miss. I said the miss left. And that's Ppen. Hausen. Mm. He's playing touch footy le least Ppen Hausen fucking tip. The right team. He didn't leave. He didn't leave for 360. He had a scare at the end of last season that made him double think what he was doing and didn't wanna do it. Um, he's gonna get off a big money from R 360 when it finally takes off. I don't think it does take off. We haven't heard fuck all about it since. Well, he said he's, I think it's done. He said he's in talks with one of the head. Touch football coaches and all that. Yeah. So Scott Prince done that for a long time after he retired, so probably still does actually. Yeah. So, but I, I could take, I could take either the team, but I think just that the hungry grand advantage. Yeah. Gets the milk over. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Who'd you go, Hoover? Storm. Storm. He loves a roughy. I don't, I don, yeah. I don't, I don't see him losing five. No. Well, it can, it can go either way. I won't be surprised. I'll be interested to see what does happen, but Yeah. Um, dolphins, Panthers, Darwin, we pretty well covered it off pretty well. Dolphins got flogged last round out, got 50 put on'em. Panthers very poor last week. I don't see the Panthers having two performances like that in them. And were we in a row? And I think it was just a. Uh, glitch in the Matrix and they'll be back this week and probably put another 50 on the Dolphins. Um, not 50. I think the, the miss last week for PAMs was not having, uh, Mitch Kenny. Yeah, no. Was it last week? They didn't have him or the wait for, was it the week you think he was? No, I think he, I think he played last week. Did he? Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah. It was, it was the week before Mitch Kenny was out. Yep. And they still put 50 on Melbourne. Yep. Um, yeah. Yeah. Well, you just got, you both got Panthers. Yeah. Um, yeah, he's gonna go Dolphins. No, I'm on the riff, but I, yeah. The Dolphins are one of them teams we've, we've spoke about in the past. They could quite easily turn it on. Yep. Mm. And then we've got, we've got the game of the season Warriors. Titans in New Zealand. Yeah. Gold Coast after. Wait, the Gold Coast put 50 on frigging Parramatta on the weekend, so I don't really know where to put them. Yeah, whoever keep who keeps saying put Titans put 50 on the Warriors last fucking season too. That's what I mean. You keep telling me that the Warriors can't beat the Titans. So I'm fucking torn on this game. Mm. Are you picking the Titans? I'm picking the was. Yeah. All right, Zach, I back the was Alright. Fellow like top four spot. We, we gotta stick together. Yeah, no, I'm on the Warriors as well. I, I actually think it might be a decent game, but the, the Warriors were very impressive last week. The thing, the thing is the last year the Warriors, they didn't have the young boys. Yeah. This young forward pack they got at the moment. I think that, I think the Titans are still working out systems and getting used to Hana's coaching and still doing some tweaking there. I think towards the end of the year you'd be probably picking the Titans a little bit more, but um, especially with the speed of the game with some of the players that they have, so, well you think of Labban being dropped to the bench over, they could blame, but Yeah. Kate Well's come back in. Yeah, they, Kate Well's good and all. But do, do you, I sit back and I look at these injuries that all these players and they talk about player welfare. All the time. Do, do you think like some plays rush back into a start and line up? I think it depends. Yeah, it depends. It depends. It depends on how their season's going. Well, the thing is, in the season though, the whales are still playing good enough for those young Fords. Do you bring Kate well back through the bench? Well, I think, yeah, I give you that center or second row roll off a bench, I think. I think teams literally sit down and look at the draw and go, we, we should win this game, shouldn't we? This game need to win this game. And then when you get to locker panthers, you know, storm normally. But, um, when you get to those teams, it's like, well, we can afford to have a loss'cause we can still make the finals. We'll test ourselves there. And they're not as disappointed in losing to those top teams. And when they push players to come back, it's for those games that they need to win that they've marked as need to win. They don't need to win this week. Like, like bringing Medcalf back fucking five weeks early. Well that, that comes down to your medical staff as well, like how good your medical staff is. So, well fucking leaving me out until round nine's. Kate Will's had this injury a few times now. Yeah. And well he hasn't, he hasn't played at all this. Yeah, he, he up weeks off the bench, uh, around one, didn't he? He played one game. No he hasn't because I didn't Super coach. Yeah. I don't think he, and he didn't play or must have got injured in the trials. Miles, I think it was. Yeah. Yeah. Um, rabbit ose dragons. I know last week we said we didn't know when Panthers first loss was coming and that happened. We put the hoax on them. Um, when's the Dragons first wing coming this week? Not this week. I don't think it'll be this week, but I'm just saying there probably will Neo, we'll probably put the hoax on him. So do I. Gra massive loss. I think he's massive loss as well, but they're bringing Duffy in. Yeah. But Latrell staying in the Centers, I think that's a smart option. Matt Duffy's also been playing over in the Super league. He's been playing well in New South Wales Cup. But New South Wales Cup is nowhere near the speed of the NRL at the moment. Mm, no. It wouldn't be. No. So you usually got the rabbit hose. Both ears. I have taken the rabbits, yes. But I don't think, I don't think the dragons are that far away. They play. All right. And it was against Manley in patches. Yeah. Um, that was when Manley was poor though, wasn't it? Or No, that was when the weekend they played, they played on Friday night. Oh, I don't know. That was so long ago. At this point, Tiger's Broncos at Campbelltown. The Tigger. I'm on the Tigers. The um, the injury problems that, um, the Broncos worries me a little bit. Uh, no Hooker. I've had to go to a fifth choice hooker, so, and um, there's a Mos Moza, he was looking really good the other night when he come onto, he got knocked out. You got a broken nose. Yeah, I know. Proper fucked up. Roslin had a proper fucked up broken nose. He is still playing. Yeah. That could be bad. Nah, we good? We good. Um, yeah, Moza is good. I like, I like Moza too. He's too good to be, be sitting on the bench. Here's another one that somebody like the Dragons could really chase. Yeah. But you've got, you look at that Bronco system, you've got four potentially starting hookers all injured. If I, if they, if they managed to get Moser, I'd be happy with that. But I'd be still trying to get Conor Watson in that team. His versatile go. If you're the Dragons, you throw money at somebody like Billy Walters who's won a grand Final. Yeah. I under, he's, he's an out and out nine. He didn't win the Grand Final. He didn't play in it. He was there. He, he was, he helped. Yeah, he helped he put the Broncos in that position. Yep. And he was one of the players at the, started the season that was saying that though, not being in the, starting not line up at all with, with those three players that I mentioned. And even with Moser, you've still got the Bears there. They're still, they're still looking for players in their Cash star. Well, they're still looking for a, they're looking for a nine mm. Bear Bears. Were another team that floated Scott Drinkwater's name around too, but, and I think they'd be stupid not to, but, um, yeah, I'd got, yeah, I'd still like the Cowboys to reset. I, I think I say, we'll, I say we, we shard to go to nine or 14 or something like that last year. Anyway. Billy Walters, so do the Warriors move on? Wade GaN No. Bring in the fucking young bookers. No, Sam Heal is that hooker by the way? Not Henry Sam Haing. Yeah. Yeah, we got there eventually. Um, so we just have Tigers. Yes. Across the board. The only different Not convinced him. No, I'm not convinced either. But you can't really bet against the, at the moment you, you can't, but you got Reynolds coming back and I think, yeah, Reynolds' game management, Reynolds and Ezra do enough they that could do enough for the Broncos. Like you lose Pat Kerrigan, you've, they haven't got an out and out number nine, but if you've got a nine coming in that can just give Reynolds a service he needs put the ball in front of him. He can manage the game from there if he stays on the field. Yeah, but I don't, I think he'd be right. Yeah. Um, Sunday roosters nights. I can't pick the nights after last week though. I do like the fact they've kept sanding in the halves, move Fletch to fullback and, um, Fletcher Hunt's going to center. I, I don't think it's too bad. I think Lucas is gonna be a big loss. Um, he had no other choice to do it that way. No. I think the Knights will bounce back, but I don't think they'll win the game. I think, I think, um, the Roosters are too experienced in the outfit to get beat by him. Did you admit it yet? What? Admit Well, no. No. He will have no impact on the game whatsoever. He's both on the roosters. On the Roosters. Roosters Walker kicks four from five with three Tri Assist and scores. The last one. No, you go put that on on our Sports Bet account. Go put a dollar on it and then we've got to close it out. Earl's Bulldogs, I'm on the dogs Parramatta have too many injuries. They're already looking for compensation on the cap because of how many injuries they had. Um, and I don't actually blame them because half of those injuries have been through foul play during a game, and you should be able to get some sort of compensation from that. The players that cause the foul, they still get to play. So there's gotta be a, there's a bit of a disadvantage to that team that loses that player. Um, bulldog, Zach? Um, I'm on the dogs. Yeah. So outta, outta all the, all that we are all the same except for one. Yep. Me? Yep. You pick the storm over the Raiders. So one of us is gonna get a perfect round this week, or I'm just gonna fucking extend my lead on top of the fucking ladder of the Super coach. Little bit dip bit. Zach might. Well fucking, I I haven't seen you higher than me yet. Me, me and Zach might both get a fucking perfect round and we'll both like prob you, it doesn't matter. You're nowhere near me. I'm a point behind you and he's two points behind you. You get a bonus point for fucking a perfect round. You've never been in front of me on that ladder yet. Oh, whatever. Spring of Super Coach, where, where he is at at the moment. Like, I struggle. What, as in rankings, I'm struggling to find a team. I'm, I'm ranked 64th at the moment. Overall in the tipping overall? Yeah. No, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 64th overall. Yeah. But how's your actual team going? I could, shit, um, yeah, I've given up on my team. Really. I'm just worrying about the tipping I want. I want another KFC voucher. You are catching Jason then? Yes. You, you beat him by 60 points at the weekend, so Yeah. Yeah. That was'cause of, um, Trell, I put him as captain. Sorry, I didn't know. Is they both sort of streaking away from Jonesie? He's, he's done, he's done. He's given up. Yeah, I'm, I'm getting better when I'm getting better at what, uh, some things I had to make a few changes this week.'cause Yeah, I figured out's the, I found out David for feed is not playing this week either, so. Well, that's biggest surprise to me is Chan's in the team. He's starting still. He wasn't getting dropped. He wasn't getting dropped. Odd dead set. Thought he might've, he, he's just been fucking absolutely whipped at training, I'd say. So I, I, yeah. So. I say, I say he's copped it on the chin and gone. Yep. Right. I think, I think the, the biggest drama that I've got with my super coach this week is that I didn't have enough changes to get rid of Hughes and I had to bring, um, Wishard in,'cause Trindle on the BI and PSO wasn't playing. Um, where you just back the, yeah. Your super coach Cup where he is at. Did you just play it the weekend? What? I dunno. In the, in the Super Coach app where mm-hmm. He is still in the cup down the bottom says game day leagues or SC Cup. Just mate, am I still there? I don't have an SC cup just mate. Still there? I'm getting into it. I, I don't have an SC cup. Oh really? Yeah. See high enough SC Cup. Yeah, I'm in the SC cup. Yeah. Did you make it through to the next round, uh, round six, is it? No. That means you're out. No, no. Round seven. Round seven. Yeah. I'm remaining remaining teams. Yeah. Yeah. I'm remaining. There's 131,000 teams remaining. Where's your, what's your SC cut rank underneath your team name? 78,253. I'm, I'm not winning this week'cause I'll mate that I'm versing is, verse is ranked 3000 and, uh, 3,146 I'm hundred seven, 400. Shit, I'm, I'm the top. The top 50,000. I'm playing up against some of the 6, 6 20 6,000. I didn't even know that was on there. I'm still in it. Yeah, it started last year, I think it was. Yeah. Oh no, my um, my super coach at the top. Oh, it's going off last week. I'm um, 95,745. What ranked? Yeah. Yeah. No, last week I was 107. This week I'm 95, so I'm in the top 100,000. What's that for? Tipping or your team? For the team. The cup. Oh. I gotta get outta that now. So for the car, you've got a win to keep proceeding now? Yeah. Oh, I flogged our mate last, well last week'cause he only had 600, three points. I had a buyer. I had to buy as well. Oh, fuck off. I played fucking last week. I didn't even know that was a thing, but yeah. Well, I'm inside the top 50,000. I've had a couple good weeks, but Yeah, I know. Yeah, I don't see me with this one. I'll be out. They're probably, they're probably looking at my team this week for team of the week, but bragging I'm, I'm probably gonna be miss frigging Braley and Trindle this week, I think. Um, yeah. Well, Bray's gonna be a big loss. I do. I had to get, I had to get rid of Haywood. I've had him since the start of the season and he is terrible, so I brought Crosland in. Oh, really? Oh, I've got Crosland Braley. Who's ERs. I still got Harry. Oh yeah, Harry, I've got, I've got Ka Kamika still as well. I can't get rid of him at the moment, so he's wasting away on me bench. I've got too many storm players to be fair. I'm gonna have more trouble never by. Yeah. I've only got one storm player. I've got a few Sharks players. So they've had a, they've had a favorable draw so far. Haven't even got a Sharks player in mine to tell you. The roosters have probably got a favorable draw going forward. Yeah. Yeah. So I, um, yeah, I was tossing up this week and who to bring in that fullback role. Yeah. I had to get rid of full Longo just, and I'm not, not sold on him Storm aren't, um, breaking the, that many tackles to give him that open speech. So, yeah. I think he goes out and scores 150 this week.'cause I've got rid of him. I've got, um, I've got Chester at Full Bay this week. Nah, Chester's in the center for me, but I brought Tommy Turbo in. Oh, I moved, I moved some players around so that I could do that. Um, so I could put his Sarco as me flexi player. Um, yeah, that's probably just about it for the footy this week anyway. Um, the masters, we were way off except Hoover said about Rory. Um, we weren't that far off, were we? I was in the top 10. I wasn't, I think the Chabo struggled. He was, he'd got knocked out in the second round. Yeah. He didn't make the cut. No. Neither did Kim Smith. Um, but yeah, I. Scotty Sheffield was in the top 10. Yep. Mm-hmm. Jason Day was in the top 10. Yeah. Jason Day was a little bit surprised with him. I didn't think he was. He does that to me every time. He always plays well in big, in big like, um, majors. He always, he's always up there sticking around it. Always. Yeah. Have you seen his house? No. I was watching a frigging I, where I was watching something with him. His house is ridiculous. No, he's got an indoor, he's got an indoor putting green thing that he can change the frigging everything about. It's ridiculous. Do you know how much, but do you know how much Rory won for winning that? Yeah. Only two and a half million dollars. Yeah, well that's what most of the majors are. They win fuck loads of money you'd like even you come 15th and you're still winning a couple grand. Yeah. Couple, couple mill. Oh, I think, I think Fifteenth's a couple of hundred grand. I don't think it's a mill. Might be. I dunno, they get a lot of money for it, but all those live players really struggle when it comes to majors now. So, um, yeah, I still wanna, I still wanna see a live versus PGA fucking match up. That'd be cool. Happy or more too. Mm yeah. Yep. And I'm not even that big on um, fucking team golf. Um, alright. He is got anything else for sport this week? I'll have to eat my words. Me and United are better than me in city. Be fucked. Are they okay? Whatever the, um, it says a Liverpool supporter. Yeah. What's wrong with that? Borderline relegation. Did you, you know what I do? You what? I, the Spurs are gone. You know what I realized the other day? Hoover's jumped all on board with fucking Tottenham hot spurs, and they're gone. The roosters basically they get relegated. Yeah, they're gone. They're not gone this No. At all. Yeah. There's still a bit to go. There's two points. They're in the rele relegation zone. That's, and they're, um, after rid of an, anyway, I did notice the other day that he's gone all in on these, on this chicken team and he's gone into a chicken coop and it done him dirty. So it's just not your year for Nah, no. That's right Ry. Yeah. I, I did tell you a few weeks back, that city will win it. Arsenal just dropped more points. You said a couple of weeks ago that Arsenal were gonna fucking win it. Nah, nah uh, on the, on the soccer. While we're on the soccer, I'm still eating me words. You just shut up and fucking wait. Alright. Alright. The Jets have. The chance. Mm. To win the plate this week. If they beat Victory in Victory in Melbourne, yeah. They have to have a draw. Providing Auckland lose, they can get away with a draw, but if Auckland have a draw, the Jets have to win. Yeah. Um, yeah. Best way to do it's just win and they win their plate. But I still say fuck the Jets. I'm I, I can't get on board. Sydney FC got robbed. I don't think they did. Did see, did see the um, Western Sydney, Sydney Wanderers are bottom of the ladder too in both male and female. Yeah. Yeah. Which is kind of a fall from Grace.'cause didn't they win the, the um, Australia Cup Fucking Premiership. Play and Asian championship. Yeah. They've won a, a few plates and cups over the years now. Yeah, yeah. No, they were, they were one of the top teams and they've kind of fallen away, I reckon. So. Um, but on soccer though, I've been, um, I've been riding into me soccer this week. Yeah. I'm being honest. No, I, I've been, I've been riding, going down to watch the Muscle Book. Rams play isn't right into it. If you were riding into your soccer, you'd call it by its actual name football, not soccer. So I've been, I've been, I've been playing a lot of football manager, like every day I've been watching. Welcome to Rex. I'm sick. I've been watching. Welcome to Rex. No, I wasn't playing when I was fucking sick. I can tell you. Hey. No. A bit Ted less. No, I haven't. I haven't. You got WhatsApp? You gotta, I can't. I can't. Why? It's on'cause it's on Apple tv. I've got enough subscriptions. You get it for free? Yeah. Where? On the Apple? Yeah. Seven day trial. Yeah. Watch it. Apple a day. Keeps the doctor away. And you probably need to eat an apple. Yeah. That is fucking horrible. Horrible. But anyway, you keep the paper off your back. No, I've been sitting here. I've been sitting here in the office watching fucking welcome to Ham and playing football manager. So Zach dabbled in football manager a little bit last year. He hasn't played the new one. I don't mind the new one. I think the last one was a little bit better, but I don't know why. Um, started a unemployed career. No coaching licenses. No nothing. I'm coach of some semi-professional Swedish team at the moment. Um, what other game, what other sports games would you like to see? Have a manager mode. I don't get into'em that much. WW Hey, wwe E manager. Is that so you can manage the girls? I'll be more worried if you wanted to manage the boys. You, I can see you as the big shows manager. Me? Yeah. No, I'm not that, I'm not that big into WWE e to be honest, like I used to be sort of when I was a kid, but I can't get into it now. Um, I reckon, I reckon an NRL manager would go right? There used to be a rugby league manager on the computer. I used to have it, but they don't make'em anymore. You, you can do manager mode. PlayStation. You can be, you can be your coach. Yeah, I know that. But I mean like the football manager sort of set up with the statistics and you know. Nah, the depth you get, I don't think it'll work. Well. I think it does. I played one before. It does work, but I know I like going through with the strategies and the fucking shit like that. You, you like farming simulator once every fucking six months too. Yeah. Well NFL manager maybe. That'd be pretty good. Go through scouts, college players. Start off at high school. Work your way. Tennis college. NFL, tennis, tennis manager. That would be boring as fuck. Fuck that. Alright. He's been playing any games this week. I've been home for. 10 hours this week. Oh. From, from last Tuesday. Where do you take your PlayStation with you? Where the fuck am I gonna set at the PlayStation at? You fucking know as well. Maybe. Maybe. He's gonna get a laptop. Yeah. And a laptop. Laptop and a steam account. You still can't, yeah. Mm. Yeah. Last Tuesday I've been home for 10 hours. Yeah, fair enough. And I've still, and I've still got what's today? And I've still got three days before I go home again. Mm. Yeah. Alright. What's your, um, what's the bets for this week? What are your bets, Josh? Here we go. Here we go. Any your bets last week that ah, up the shit. Yeah. I, I, I, I think Penrith fucked us all. Um, I didn't tip Penrith. I got, I got one right. I think I got one right too. But it wasn't, I did, I did last week actually. Oh, really? Johnson, you want to fucking do the, the top up this week? Why? I did it last week? No, you didn't. I did. No, you didn't. I did. I did it late. Yeah. You'd done it fucking on Monday. No, I done it like Saturday or something. I told you I was crook, real socio dad. You didn't get nothing. Just says no return. Yeah. Well, west Tam got returned and the bulldogs got their ass handed to em. Mm-hmm. Um, um, yeah, what Betsy is have this way. I am gonna go. Dogs. They ask in dogs sees dogs as in NRL bro. NRL, not a FL. Why would I fucking tip the Western Bulldogs? Fuck. Damn. I'm pretty sure you did the other week. No, they won. No, I didn't do, I did. All right. Who have you got? Uber? Uh, Wakefield Trinity. Yeah. And Geelong. Kaz. Yep. And I have not, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Actually, actually, actually, I wanna change my a FL one. Well, of course you wanna change it. You always wanna change it. Brumbies in the Super league. That's super fucking, which one you changing? Wakefield, Wakefield or Geelong? No, no. Geelong. I don't want Geelong. I want to go Brumbies. Okay, Brumbies. Um, I'm gonna get on the suns. No, to beat the, and the, I'm on the swans to beat the Giants. So Swanee, we got Swans, suns, Brumbies, Wakefield, Souths and Dogs. That's our tips this week. Um, we're due for a payout. Boston Red Sox baseball back. I've been looking at baseball. Don't worry. You won't ever see me picking baseball. What are you gonna, you love baseball? Have you not picked yours or you have? I don't know what's going on. What's the Red Sox got do with anything? He's putting it in. Oh, I dunno. You do what you want. I'm lost. Please don't do that. That was so loud. It's reminding him of too many memories when he is got the but plugin. I can, oh, fuck off. I can spell it through the microphone. Oh, Peggy, who's a good little Peggy? I'm, I'm gonna say yeah, you don't get'em all. Have you just got anything else for this week? Yeah. Seen anything interesting. Colorful pegs, Islam pegs, no, uh, eggs for your nose. I, I actually want feedback this week and whoever does paper on your back, oh, fuck me. Dead. Shut up. I want feedback this week. Jump on the Facebook page or the group, go join'em. If you haven't already, like, share, subscribe. But I noticed last week I was going through all our stats on um, uh, whatever it's called, buzz Sprout, where we share our podcast too. All the episodes too, and then it distributes from there. We've got, hang on, I'll bring the stats up in the hour because it's, it's getting better. It, it's going really well. Um, so when I go into there and I go to locations and I go all, we've got 60% of listeners are from Australia. Which makes sense. But we've also got an 18% following in the United States, which is a very, like that's, it's a flat out second. And then we've got other countries, obviously we cover NRLA lot. And I was just wondering and wanted feedback from people whether or not they'd be interested, but I was sitting there thinking that they probably don't know much about rugby league or what we're talking about or anything like that. And I was thinking about starting a sort of um, oh, what's it called? Spinoff of this one called the Incoherent podcast. Origins, if I go through by myself.'cause you two don't have enough time to be doing an extra podcast a week.'cause we struggle to do this fucking one. I was gonna go through and do the research and all that and do it up and do little history lessons. But I was gonna just limitate the rugby league for our US listeners, but I've decided just to call it Origins'cause it still links back to Rugby league. But I can also cover other sports games, stuff like that. There you, those things. I just want, I just want feedback on whether or not it's something that people would be interested in, that I can work on. It'll take a while for me to do it, but um, yeah, that's what I'm looking at doing. So I'm planning on the first episode being sort of the story of how Rugby League started in Australia. I can do teams, I can do, you know, sporting franchises, leagues. Video game companies, whatever. So yeah, just give us feedback whether it's something you would wanna listen to, if I'm wasting me time or not, but I'll probably do it anyway. So, yeah, what he's reckoning. You've probably got the time to do it'cause you do fuck all else. Oh, I'll do heaps. So come when Hey, when? When I do. Um, alright. You just got anything else for this week? No, not really. Not really. Ho has started his new job. Old job Restarted. Yeah. Whatever you want to call it. He's not back at the ABA avatars. Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. I would like to, I would like to, but it doesn't pay much. Yeah, it doesn't pay. Fuck all. That's why we're not there. It's just, it's just love. You gotta be there for the love of it. I mean, if you wanna be paid in love, I'll take you on board. It's okay. Yeah, he's gonna fuck you. Alright, I'll, um, I'll talk to you. It's bye from me. So we'll talk to you next week, whoever. That's a hooroo for me. Thank you for joining Zach Hoover and I on the Inca Here podcast. If you'd like to follow us on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast from, also head over to our Facebook page and follow us there. We're also on Instagram Inca here podcast. Thank you. Bye.