GangboX Podcast Episode 9 w/ Aaron Ford

Come take a listen to our interview w/ future Governor candidate Aaron Ford.  He tells us why you should vote for him instead of the other guy.  Give it a listen and tell us what you think.  All things Union all things Construction!

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to the Gangbox Podcast special episode today. Another guest. We're killing it with the guests. We got great guests. I think we should keep the guests going. I know you think differently, but we're going to be able to do that. I mean, I like guests, but you know, sometimes I want it just to be you and me. Yeah, I get enough of you. You know? But we are uh joined today with the current attorney general of the state of Nevada.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Gangbox in the house. Aaron Ford. You got my name right too. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Aaron Ford.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

So you're obviously running for governor. Yes, sir. Uh tell us a little bit about yourself, uh, why you are seeking that office and and kind of what what motivates you to do what you do. Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_03 0:39

Before you do that, yeah, happy anniversary. Maybe give mama a shout out.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, baby, thanks for letting me come out on the holiday and come hang out with Game Box. I'm just saying, I'm just looking you right in your face, baby. Because uh this cat right here called me and he was like, I need you to show up. And you know, he don't call me, but every once in a while, when we do, I gotta show up. So that's what's up. We're here right now, uh uh enjoying this time. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

SPEAKER_03 1:03

Thank you forward for letting him come out.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Look, man, look, as tough as times are right now, we all got a lot to be grateful for. Um I'm grateful for my wife. You know, Vince, when I walked in, you talked about seeing a Facebook post I put it up, and uh this is my favorite time of the year, quite literally, uh, because 31 years ago is when I met my wife, literally the day after Thanksgiving. Uh I'll never forget on Thanksgiving Day, my cowboys, they beat the Packers. So I was happy on that day. Uh and then uh one of my homeboys was dating uh this lady, and uh he had a house party, and uh, and I and uh he had me over there, and I met my wife the day after Thanksgiving. Uh we went on on a on our first date the day after we met, so that would have been yesterday, 31 years ago. Um and I'll never forget, you know, uh just just meeting this young lady. I was, you know, I was I was enamored immediately, right? Uh and we went we went out to eat, introduced myself to to the waitress, and I said, you know, my name is Aaron. Uh put me on the list, please. And she was like uh she didn't understand my pronunciation then. So she said uh uh Aaron? Oh no, she said uh uh uh Aaron. I said no Aaron. She said uh Avery? I said no Aaron. She said, Averen? I said no, Aaron. She said, how you spell it? I said, A A R O N. She said, Oh, Aaron. And and then my date, she looked over and she said, No, his name is pronounced Aaron. And she said, let's go somewhere else. Yeah. So yeah. So from from from the first day I met her, you know, she's had my back. You know, it's been 31 years, and so happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Thank you, baby, for letting me be here. Yeah. Awesome. Uh, it is absolutely great, man.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

No, it's and it's important, Dan. Me and Daniel know this. We both got beautiful partners that have our back like that. And it's it's a hard thing to find, man. It is. It is. But yeah, so sorry.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

No, you're you're good. You know, uh, I think we should probably just start out with you letting us know why. Uh what motivates you, why you're running for that office. It's kind of a big deal. Um, and just kind of let us know what it is that makes you tick and why it is you feel it's so important that you become the next governor of the state of Nevada.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Yeah, man, look, I've been running for office now. I've been in office for 13 years. Got elected in 2012. I first ran in 2010. Um, got smashed. I lost that first election miserably. But the first reason why I ran is a reason why I ran for re when I ran again in 2012, uh, when I ran for re-election in 20 uh 16, when I ran for this office in 2018, when I ran for re-election in 22, and why I'm running for office in 26 for governor. It's been the same four reasons every single time. They go by the names of Avery, Alexander, Devin, and Deuce, my three sons and my nephew. They've always been the ones who've been my motivation to get engaged and get involved. The first time I ran, uh, it was my oldest son, Avery, uh, who uh we had just moved back to Vegas, and my son cracked a joke. It was like uh, uh, you know, you said, Dad, everything you say you do is for the family, right? It's like, yeah, that's right. Glad you recognize every decision I make is for the family. It's like, well, why do you move us from Texas to Nevada, which is ranked number 50 in education, or something like that. Yeah. And then I says, Oh man, he said, ha ha, I got you, Dad. So he was he was joking, right? But I was like, you know, that's actually a serious question. Um and so I ran for office the first time because I thought that my kids deserved to have people in office who would look out for the educational opportunities. Um when I ran the next time, it was because we were in the middle of a recession. And we needed good employment opportunities for our kids. Uh when I ran this last time, it was because I thought we needed someone uh who was gonna be leading our state that's looking out for everybody, the entirety of what I call the Nevada family. Uh and and you know, that's been my motivation. You guys are part of the Nevada family. And so uh when Daniel reaches out from um from his union, and when Vince uh hollers at me, we you know, we got to break bread a little while back, you know, you guys are important, you know, and and understanding that working families, and that's you know, like like how I came from, we need folks in the office who are looking out for them for all of us, who are going to make decisions that are based on us being able to take care of ourselves, of our families, um, uh, and to have the dignity uh of of work and being able to do those types of things. And you know, there's so many areas that are important, whether it's um employment, whether it's housing, whether it's education, whether it's health care, all of these things are important. And I think again, um having someone in office who understands that who's actually looking out for it, as opposed to the corporations, uh is the reason why I'm running, man.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

Why uh why do you think obviously uh I'm a business agent for Glaziers Local 2001, District Council 16, Painters Glaziers floor covers. Vince here represents all the building trades. Uh and and this podcast is really geared towards those uh towards our members, right? To give them information. Why why do you feel you would be a better governor for union construction workers uh than than what we currently have?

SPEAKER_00 5:32

Well, look, I can sit up here and give you platitudes. I can give you like the stump speech, uh, but I don't have to. Uh because I you can look at what I've done already to know who I am and what I'm gonna do going forward. I've been there with you the entire time. From the moment I first ran for office, right? Um I was there uh in 2015 when the other party took over and literally tried to demolish y'all, tried to get rid of everything you stood for, whether it was whether it whether it was prevailing wage, whether it was project labor agreements, whether it was even the right to collectively bargain. I was there pushing back and setting up for you. When it came time to try to get you some jobs, I was there, ensuring that you had the votes you needed in order to be able to provide for yourselves and your families. That's the kind of work that I have always done. That's the kind of work that I do right now. Um, and that's the kind of work that I will do on a going forward basis, ensuring that you have the ability to take care of yourselves and your family. Look, I've talked to folks all over the state. Just got back from a uh a tour. I was in all 17 counties, 18 stops, um, and there's one word that rose to the top, essentially essentially what everybody's looking for. And it's affordability. Everything's too expensive right now. Period point blank. Um and and in that same arena, like five things kind of crep up to the top. People just want a good job so they can buy a house in a safe neighborhood, where the schools are preparing their kids for careers or for college, where the healthcare system is affordable and responsive, um, and and where through all of that they can be treated with humanity, dignity, and respect. That's what I stand for. And that's what my my work product has already proven. And I don't think, frankly, that those requests are uh unreasonable. People who elect officials should be able to depend upon those officials to help people to manifest and facilitate those in their lives. And uh that's that's what I have done and that's what I will do.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

So you brought up 2015. Uh that was it that the session where they tried to get rid of prevailing wage for schools, right? Yes, absolutely. And can you kind of elaborate on I I wasn't around and I don't know if you were in your position then, but dabbling. What what happened and how did you how did we get to 90%? Because I remember it was gone for most of the session, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

And then something happened, and then we ended up getting at least 90% of the prevailing wage. What what happened there? How did that all go down? Um I happened.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Me and my caucus happened. Yeah, right. I was the minority leader in the you know in the Senate at that time, and to his credit, being Key Keffer was the assistant my uh majority leader at the time, working under Michael Robertson. Uh he was one of the main driving forces behind getting rid of a prevailing wage in schools. And I was expressing to him how problematic that would be and how hurtful it would be, and how wrong it would be. Um and so I sat in his office as frequently as I could um and I explained to him that particular position. And we were able to work it out to the point to where, you know, we got to 90 percent. It ain't what we wanted, to be sure. We wanted 100%, leave it alone, right? But uh understanding that something is better than nothing, uh, that incremental progress uh is something that we should also um um uh you know acknowledge. Um that's what happened. And it wasn't just on that, there were there were other things uh that that were taking place at that time during that time period. It would take me some you know um um um some long thinking to remember to remember everything that was going on. But here's what I remember. I remember you guys saying, you as in the unions, saying uh never again. That was a mantra that I remember you guys saying early on after 2015, never again. And that was a big banner you would have in the back of your union halls. And I would point to it, not say, you said never again. And and what I said in 2015 was get me the gavel. Yeah, I remember. Right now I'm gonna be. You said that in my union hall where I was a rank and file member sitting at a union meeting. I said, get me the gavel. Yeah. And then in 2016, when I went when you got me the gavel, in 2017, I went back to the legislature and we passed all of those bills to restore those things. To be sure they got vetoed because we had a Republican, um a Republican governor in Sandoval. But I put my money where my mouth is, I put the work in, um, and you know that's what that's that's my that's my past. Uh it's my present, and it will be my future as well.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

So you talked a little bit about uh the I I believe you were referencing the Raiders Stadium uh when you said you were voting for jobs. Uh obviously we've just recently had a uh uh a big uh special session um where we were trying to pass a movie studio, very similar type uh battle in the legislature. Uh what what are your thoughts on that bill? Um I know I did see you up there testifying for the um the how this housing bill where corporations so I I saw you testify there. What uh what were your thoughts on the on the movie studio bill and uh how come you didn't testify on that?

SPEAKER_00 10:11

Well, first off, most folks know where I stand on these types of things. Yeah because again, my pass is my prologue. Um you you you mentioned film. Remember, I was the one who initially introduced the very first film bill. Yep. People tried that, I shouldn't say introduced, I got it passed. People had tried over the years to introduce it uh and to get it passed, and and they were unable to do it. And as a freshman in 2013, I came in and I passed a film incentive bill um um for the purpose of diversifying our economy, right? And we got it passed. It took me every day of the session, from the moment we entered we we we opened up, I think it was February the second, until Sine died. It took me that entire session in order to come up with a compromise that I believe I'm trying to remember, guys, but I think was about $10 million. I think it was a $10 million incentive program, you know, way different than what you guys are talking about today, to be sure. But it was a start. Uh and the idea was to try to bring jobs in, right? And and we were successful in that. Um it filmed over at the win, right? People had jobs. Um uh Nick Cage came in and he filmed two of his uh films here. Um I walk around with a backpack now. Vince, if you ever see me at the airport, you will recognize his backpack. It says Sin City Saints on it. Sin City Saints. It's a fictitious basketball team uh that um uh was based in Las Vegas and it was given, it was I was able to buy it because over at the Orleans, um, Yahoo, when they were streaming like Netflix, took advantage of the films incentive bill and came out here and filmed two seasons of Sin City Saints. Right? People had jobs, right? Uh and these are the types of things that that that um I've endeavored to do that I've been successful in doing. And I give you that background to say um, you know, uh, you know, if you fast forward to um 20 uh fifth sixteen, I think it was when the stadium came and it was a tough session, right? Um reasonable minds can disagree. Let me back up and say that. Reasonable minds can disagree. Right? People disagree all the time, right? And no one is always gonna be a hundred percent on your team, and sometimes you have to agree to disagree. And in 2016, some of my good friends disagree with with the approach I was taking, which was to uh get jobs to folks through the stadium. Um but I said to them this I said, look, I had a construction worker come to me, look me dead in my face, and and I believe um this same person testified subsequently essentially said, and I'm paraphrasing, he said, Look, I'm living in my car right now, in my truck, he said, with my wife and my daughter. Um I have no job. Uh and and right now you have the ability to vote to give me some jobs, uh to give me a job to restore not only my income but my dignity. And that persuaded me. Right. That said, I understand the other side. I understand it, right? And I understand the importance of having the dialogue, and that's why I think compromise is important and trying to move the ball forward. Um and and you know, that's that persuaded me. It didn't persuade others, and I'm I don't begrudge them that. Um what I don't like is the negativity and the nastiness that that that ensues during these types of conversations because uh, you know, I I think it's counterproductive and I think it's it makes it difficult to move forward. And you know, we you know I I lost some friends during that time period. Um we ultimately reconciled and you know we we're we're good at this point. Um and so I don't envy what people just had to engage in and encounter this last go around. Um but I also don't second guess. I mean the fact is people have to make decisions that they can sleep with and they can live with. Um and I have to leave it there.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:39

No, that's that's interesting, man. And and that's we we dealt with or I dealt with that. Daniel was in vacation in Hawaii, he was living it up, so he didn't have to go up there and battle. But uh No, i i you're you're right, man. It it turns people nasty, and uh it's unfortunate, right? Like we me and Daniel disagree all the time. Like he's he's one of my best friends, but we just had a disagreement before you walked in about if Gorman should be in allowed to play in the national uh the the state championship anymore. He said no. I said yeah, 100% yes. Like you want your kid to you're mad your kid loses to Gorman, like step your game up, exactly go to fucking Gorman and like go be better, yeah, be better and get a spot on the process.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

And that's not even my argument. So he's totally taking my argument out of context.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

But anyway, no, but it like you said, it is sad to see um people forget this is Nevada and we all have to fucking work together. And so you're gonna blow up the house, you gotta remember you're not gonna have anything to go back home to. So uh there's some folks that forget that real quick. And a lot of us ain't going anywhere. We're gonna be here a lot longer than you know, certain other lobbyists and certain elected officials. And so it's unfortunate to see people act shitty like that, right? Um and and and we typically don't name drop, but like you even take like a LaRue Hatch, assembly member Laru Hatch, who just constantly trying to blow the house up and like is is is the stereotypical northern Nevada woman who is bored that just does not not fucking happy with life or whatever the fuck her problem is. But she can't say she's with working people if her voting history does not show that she's with fucking working people. She says, I support unions, I think it's bullshit, I know she's a fucking liar, and clearly I feel strongly about it, but it fucking pisses me off. And I'm not, and Daniel knows this. I don't ever ask anybody to co-sign my shit. But don't cancel me. You don't get to no, you you don't get to call yourself a friend of labor if you have no proven track record. Like, we are labor, we decide. So thank you for being there in the past. Really greatly appreciated. You and I've had conversations and things about what this uh up and coming cycle looks like and stuff, and and legitimately, I still don't know. I know you rumor mill, right? Like Vince is already endorsed Lombardo. We ain't endorsed Lombardo. Building Trace is not endorsed Lombardo, we haven't made any endorsements for governor yet. Um, Daniel wants Alexis Hill, which is crazy. No, I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

That's gonna be clipped. It's gonna end right there. Boom. And it's gonna be on the internet.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

No, I'm just messing around.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

So let me say something though, Vince. Let me say something, bro. Let me say something. Look, um, I won't co-sign what you just said. Don't, yeah, you don't have to. I I know, I know LaRue Hatch and we disagree. Yeah. Um I I just don't think these are mutually exclusive, y'all. I don't think it's mutually exclusive to say that because you don't vote for a particular bill, doesn't mean you're you're you're not working families. To your point, though, if you you do need a track record. Yeah. Um, and it goes back to your first question to me. I got a track record. Right. I do. And I've been there consistently. I've stood up for you, stood with you, been there for you. This ain't no one-off for me. Yeah. And this is why I would hope that um, you know, those who who who would buy for your endorsement, uh, you would remember that. This ain't no one-off. This this is not a Johnny come lately. I'm not new at this. I've been here with you this this entire time, and I will stand there. I put my money where my mouth is, my votes are always there. Um, you know, and and and if they're not, it's because we've had a disagreement, but it's been cordial, and we've been able to kind of move forward. So, you know, um I I I think it's important to note that. Um, and you know, you you're entitled to your own opinion about folks, and you know, I just wanted to make it out make it a point to say out loud as well. You know, I disagree with a little bit of that, but you know, well this is and this is the what how I see it.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

People say they're a friend of labor and they vote with us almost all the time, right? But when when the rubber hits the road and and I correlate it to I could have a friend who's like my best friend's always there, always been there. 90% of the time he's there.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

And then we're out and I get jumped and I'm getting my head kicked in over here. You bounce out and they leave. Yeah. Like they don't get to say the next day, well, you know, I'm always there every other time. It's just this one time. It's like, well, that's when we needed you the most. This film bill is when we needed our friends the most. And the ones who didn't vote with us, I relate to, stood there and watched us get our heads kicked in. You know what I mean? We our members need work. We don't, our members don't get SNAP benefits when they're working. They don't need government health care, they don't need any type of other government assistance. All they need is an opportunity to go to work. So when a bill comes up that gives them the opportunity to go to work, let them go to work. When you turn your back on that, to me, okay, you've laid, you've made your bed. It is time to lay in it now. Don't expect me to be like, okay, well, I'll forgive you. We'll work together on the next one. Like, we're done doing that shit. I feel like I'm done doing that shit. Either you're my friend all the time or you're not my friend at all. And I mean, LaRue hatched, she tried to kill the A Stadium. Not, she didn't just vote against it. She tried to kill it. And then this bill, she tried to kill it before it even got a hearing. She pulled some rule out of her out of the hat and tried to kill it while it was still in the cradle. Like didn't even want to hear it. So you're not a friend. Like you were, and and she can say she is, and you know, she had her little speech, but at the end of the day, we need to put people in office that when it matters the most are gonna stand with us. And I think you've done that.

SPEAKER_03 19:12

Yeah, I think you've done that. The whole point of that was me saying thank you. You have an appreciation. You got a track record. That was the whole point of me saying that was that you have a proven track record. There's some people who don't, but still claim to be a friend of labor. Uh, but you know, whatever. That that was that. Um I I will say, so you you uh in the media every once in a while for uh suing President Trump. Uh you want to touch a little bit on that? Like how do you think that's going? Where is it at? Like and if not, then I understand because sometimes it's open cases and shit.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

I'm down on top, you're right. I mean, I can tell you generally speaking, right? And there are open cases. We have sued um Donald Trump, I believe the last count was 36 times. Um my colleagues, um, other attorneys general, I think cumulatively we've sued over 50 times. Right? It just depends upon, you know, whether I I have a litmus test, and it's a simple one. The first question is, is what he's doing violating the law? And number two, is it negatively harming Nevadans? And if so, I'ma sue, right? I'm gonna meet you in court. And not only am I gonna meet you in court, I'm gonna beat you in court. Talk about a track record. That's my track record. And by the way, I don't care who's the president. I I've sued Biden for comparable reasons, right? I thought I think he's done things that have broken the law, and I've sued over it, um, and and we've we've we've seen him in court. And I should back up and say, uh, you know, I acknowledge that President Trump is the president. Um, and he has the ability and he has the right to implement his plans, his policies, his practices, his platform. He has the right to do those things. But he has to do so lawfully. And when he doesn't, that's when I show up. That's my job. I have a job as the attorney general. I have a lane. My lane is the legal lane, it is the law, and I have to stand up for it. And so, whether it was the very six hours into him being inaugurated in January, he broke the constitutional, he broke the law by saying people born in this country wouldn't be recognized as citizens of our country. And we sued over birthright citizenship, and we have won, right? Um, you know, whether it's him trying to say he's gonna block trillions of dollars of monies that are supposed to come to not just Nevada, but you know, all across the nation, but but uh billions of those dollars would have come right here to our state, he didn't have the right to do that. Congress had already appropriated it and he had to just you know to oversee the execution of it. We sued and we prevailed, right? Whether it's him trying to cut back on healthcare research monies that our universities were getting, um, you know, studying things like cancer, breast cancer, prostate cancer, sickle cell anemia, right? Um, he tried to stop that money from coming in. I sued. We prevailed on that too. We just continue to have to stand up against the lawlessness that's coming from the chief executive of our country. And I'm not ashamed of that. That's my job. And if I didn't do it, then you should have a complaint about that. Yeah. Um, to be sure, people are complaining. About me doing it because they're all you know they're on the other side of me uh on these issues. But again, my job is to defend the law, represent the rule of law, uh, and to represent the people of this state. And I'm proud to do that.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

100%. Let's say your campaign is successful. Um, how do you protect Nevada from Trump's outrage? Because I don't think he likes you. From his bit shit.

SPEAKER_03 22:23

Let's call it from Trump's bit shit. Like let's call it what it is.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

I don't think he likes you. And then, you know, you see how he retaliates against these other governors, these other states, and the National Guard, and um and so I think there's a concern, like, yeah, you've done your job, but now you get elected. Now, now what? Is he gonna retaliate against Nevada because you're in office? Or is there any fear of that? Or have you thought about that at all?

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Well, it's a great question. And let me uh let me tell you something. I ain't scared. I'm not scared of Donald Trump. I am not afraid of Donald Trump. Um I have stood up against him and I've stood up for Nevadans. And I've worked with a Democratic governor and I've worked with a Republican governor. And I can tell you, as a team of the two, only one was unafraid to stand up, and it ain't the current one. Right? Um so as governor, I would work with a attorney general, uh hopefully a Democratic attorney general, to align our efforts to ensure that we can protect our state from this nonsensical federal overreach. I'm not afraid of Donald Trump. I'm not kaying to him, I'm not kissing up to him. Um I leave that for the current governor, frankly. Uh and if you look around, you will see that's exactly what's happened. Our economy is in is in the tank. Um, unemployment now is higher now than it was when the current governor took office. Understand when I just say it. He ran on unemployment, and it's higher now than it was when he took office. And it's been one of the highest, if not the highest, over the course of the last, you know, 16, 17 months, right? So that's not just about Trump, to be sure. That's about Joe Lombardo's leadership. That's his failure, right? Uh our economy is in the shambles, as I've indicated. Housing prices are up, uh, um, consumer confidence is down, uh, tourism is down for a number of reasons, not the least of which is because of these tariffs, which by the way, I also sued over, because he broke the law and using the statute to impose nation, you know, uh worldwide tariffs, he doesn't have the right to do that. And that's why we've won in court at every level. The Supreme Court about two weeks ago actually heard the case. And even the most conservative justices on that court essentially are skeptical of the the president's ability to do it. So I say all of that to say, track record. When I'm governor, I'm gonna stand up against Donald Trump as well, because the people of this state deserve to have a chief executive who's willing to stand up for the entirety of the Nevada family, irrespective of who's in the White House.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

That's good. Uh oh God. That is good. I I will ask. And we don't we we try to keep things very much union, Nevada, construction. And so I'm I'm more at risk about to say what I'm about to say than the whole the Ruhat shit, right? Because he knows this. Like so I'm leaving. No, no, no, because he knows our members. No, because he knows our members, and so so it's always a touchy subject talking about immigration or undocumented people. They are in the construction industry. So I couldn't I could understand and respect you as a leader right now in the state. You you are you are a leader in the state, um not being afraid of somebody who thrives off of fear, right, in Donald Trump. However, there are undocumented people who are the opposite of that. So I think more so the question is like what would your message be to them if you win governor and now they're scared that the and and and I I haven't told you this before, but I was talking to Daniel about it, that people I have heard, like I as as a member of the community, um, not just construction, but the Latino community and stuff, uh people who are afraid that if you were to win, that their protections kind of go away because now the National Guards are coming in or the US military is coming in, what kind of message would you have for them?

SPEAKER_00 26:16

Right? And I mean that. Uh I am the Attorney General for the entirety of the Nevada family, and I have operated under that particular premise the entirety of my time. When I'm governor, it's gonna be the exactly the same. Um as attorney general, what I have done is already made my own foray into this particular arena. Um I begin with the premise that, frankly, everyone should be treated with humanity, dignity, and respect. Right? Um I uh I was raised in the church, um, and in the old testament, it tells me that you're supposed to protect everybody, the orphans, supposed to protect the widows, supposed to protect the travelers, i.e. immigration, right? And in the New Testament, it tells me that what you've done unto the least of these, you've done unto me, right? That to me is a requirement that I stand up for everybody, right? Including our immigrant community, documented or otherwise. And so, after Mr. Trump was elected and I started hearing trepidations from the community, and it wasn't just the immigrant community, it was from the LGBTQ plus community, it was from the black community, it was from women who were concerned about the attacks on their particular rights. I, on my own volition, no one asked me to do this, I put out know your rights documents on my own AG website, explaining to the community what their rights were in the context of what I concern what I heard their concerns were. I knew that it would have some political retribution associated with that, but make no mistake about it, I don't give a I don't care about it. Yeah, I hear you. I I don't care. I am impergant to the political repercussions of these types of things. Political pundits can say what they want to say. People elected me to serve the people of this state. I'm gonna do that. Because my temp my time is temporary, right? Not only because I have term limits, but maybe I don't want to run again. Or maybe people don't want to have me. And so I gotta do everything I can right now while I have the ability to do it. I haven't gotten to your question yet, I know, but I'm gonna get to it. I want to give you the background. Because this is exact, this is my sentiment, y'all. This is how I feel. And I've been this way when I was in the state senate. Do everything I can right now for as many people as possible, as quickly as possible, on as many things as possible, because my time is limited, right? So when I'm governor, I'm gonna do the exact same thing. Let's be clear. This current governor has already capitulated to Donald Trump. We already have our own National Guard, our human resources, going toward doing somebody else's job. Here's what I know. I know people in the state, and I just got off a uh 17 county tour. I told you that, 18 stops. Here's what I heard people say. They want me to be spending state money and state resources on state stuff, not doing somebody else's job. Immigration is a job for the federal government. That's not our job. They want me to spend our money on schools, on health care, on infrastructure, on mental health issues, on things that are making Nevada's, Nevada a better home for the people who live in our state. I'm gonna continue to stand up for that. And by the way, that's called sovereignty. I'm standing up for our state's sovereignty. I'm doing it as attorney general, and I would do it as governor, and the immigrant community can know that as governor, I'm gonna stand up against any federal overreach. Last thing I'll say. You have Democratic governors right now, Illinois, California, Oregon, other places that are contending with the nonsense from a federal administration, D.C. even. I think he's not a governor there, but you know, the mayor, dealing with the the this nonsense of um you know the National Guard being being you know put into the communities. You know what we've done as Attorney General? We've sued. You know what has happened? We're winning, right? And that's that's what it takes. It takes governors who are willing to stand up and say, no, you you don't have the right to send in the military to police my residence. Period point blank. And they use they they they get to stand with a Democratic Attorney General in California, in Oregon, in Illinois, a Democratic Attorney General uh in DC, and they are winning. And when I'm governor, we're gonna win in those kind of fights as well.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

So that's that's interesting. So a lot of our members hear those states, um, and they know you know that the National Guard is is going in, and to me, it's an o it's a federal overreach. Um, but there's the argument that we'll look at how these these democratic run cities and these democratic run states are. Um and I know you know a lot of our members, we we are a microcosm of the country, right? Uh union leadership in the building trades leans pretty left. Membership, not so much, right? Membership is is in the middle. Um and so what would you say to our members that are concerned uh about getting a Gavin Newsom 2.0 and don't California my Nevada? We don't want to be California. And if they have concerns that that's what you're gonna bring to the table, how would you address those concerns? What how would you talk to them?

SPEAKER_00 31:01

Well, you know, the last let me backtrack and say one more thing and then come back and say that an answer because I want you to understand this as well. My first priority as attorney general has always been the safety of our state. Yeah. Period point blank, right? Uh people do bad things, then we're we we're gonna we're gonna handle that, right? No one no one um has permission to violate our laws and prey upon our residents, period point blank, which is the reason why my office has put child predators in prison, which is the reason why even in prison we are still prosecuting folks who are violating laws, which is why I just I'm not gonna start naming names, but the fact is uh I put public officials um um in in in prison for for violating laws. Right. I I believe in the rule of law and I believe in protecting our folks, and that's my job as attorney general and as chief executive, it's even more of my job to ensure the entirety of our state is taken care of. Um but what I would say to folks who are worried about, you know, um you know how you just described California, California, Caden, Nevada, whatever the case is, um, my name is Aaron Ford. My name ain't Gavin Newsom. Right. My name ain't you know JB Prisker. You know, my my name isn't um, you know, these other my name is Aaron Ford. My work product speaks for itself. And I don't try to be anybody else because that role is already taken, right? Uh I am Aaron Ford. I stand up for what I believe in. I'm unafraid about it, I'm unabashed about it. I will stand up for your rights, I will protect you, uh, and but but I will also ensure that other people have the same protections and the rights that they are afforded by virtue of the fact that they're again due humanity, dignity, and respect like everybody else.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

So labor issues with like a little rapid fire here.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

Just uh, you know, what are your thoughts on obviously your record uh stands with this, but prevailing wage, you support it? Absolutely. What about project labor agreements? Absolutely. What uh what do you what are your thoughts on right to work? I'm getting rid of it. Getting rid of it. The moment you send it to me, first term, I ain't waiting. How what would that look like? The is that does that have to go to the is that a constitutional change that has to go to the people for a vote, or can that get done through the legislature?

SPEAKER_00 32:59

The statute it can be done legislatively. They can send me a they can send me a bill, and if they send it to me, I'm signing it. That's pretty awesome. It's happening.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

Sisilock said he was gonna do that. My name is Aaron Ford. I know. He said, uh, I remember, I remember I was fairly new when he was doing his campaign and I was talking about it. Like, yeah, right to work, let's get rid of that shit. And it was like, oh, don't talk about that. Shh, shh, shh. No one wants to talk about it. I was like, well, why aren't we talking about it? He's like, well, he's gonna do that the first session of his second term. That was my predecessor telling you that. Was it? Yeah, he's gonna do that the first session. And I remember thinking, man, what if he doesn't get his second term?

SPEAKER_00 33:34

Here's what I that's exactly what I just said. I have a temporary job. Yeah, right. I mean, maybe I don't get a second term. Maybe I don't want to run again. Right. Right? Who knows? All I know is I gotta get as much done as much as possible for as many people as possible, as quickly as possible. Um and if I have my if I have my druthers, I'm gonna be the most pro-labor governor the state's ever seen. Period. Point blank.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

Nice. What would your let's say you you win, what's your your main, your number one, what's the first thing you want to try to fix? What's what's like number one priority of you as a governor when elected?

SPEAKER_00 34:06

Well the affordability issue. Yeah. Right? Um and and and that that encompasses a lot. Uh you know, people ask me what are your top priorities? I mean, the there's no top priority. They're all top priorities. Yeah. Like I said, people want a good job, right? To buy a house. We have a housing crisis right now. Prices are too high. It's $550,000 for our starter home here, $600,000 up north, right? Uh talked about the jobs, unemployment rates through the roofs right now. And for the first time um in in recent history, we have more people who want jobs than there are jobs available in the in our nation, right? So, you know, I I believe people want to work. How do I know? Because I was up in Reno talking to somebody uh at a conversation and she said to me she had just been laid off. She was married with a disabled child and she was worried about how she was going to take care of her kid and maintain her mortgage and things of that sort. She said she had gone everywhere. She had been on all the job sites, uh, had called headhunters, had done everything she could to get a job, but she couldn't get a job. Now, she wants to work. The current guy in office, you know why he said, you know, he has a a theory as to why we have high unemployment. You know what that theory is? He said, because people are lazy and they they don't want to they don't want a job that's available. They want to rely upon the federal government. That this is this is I'm paraphrasing only a little bit though, but this is what he has said. This is what he thinks about the people who who have elected him into office, that they're lazy and don't want to work. Not been my experience, right? Uh and so what I'm gonna look to do is address that issue, address the housing issue, address our health care systems. You have a governor who vetoed a bill that could have lowered the cost of prescription drugs. He didn't. I mean, he he could have signed it. He vetoed it and then took $100,000 from pharmaceutical companies later on, right? These are the types of things that that he uh has has missed the opportunity to do to stand up for working families. These are things that I'm gonna do, and I've I'm gonna ask the legislature to send me within the first 30 days of my session several of those those bills, and I'm gonna sign them.

SPEAKER_03 36:02

Yeah. Interesting. So I I have uh a question, and this is one I will not name drop at this time, because I don't want to get into a weird, not even a debate. I just I we'll let other races run their races, right? But uh so your attorney general running for governor, which then will leave the attorney general seat vacant. One of the candidates said that they want to start a I don't know if what it's called, a new office within the attorney general's office or a new department, if you will, but on wage theft. Uh is that even possible?

SPEAKER_00 36:40

So uh here's what needs to happen. The the short answer is that it's possible. The long answer is that if you wanted to be an effective um uh you know department, the laws have to change. Right now, things like that go through a labor commissioner. And and this is one of the things that I think people don't haven't quite understood. I've tried to articulate this and I think I've articulated it poorly. So let me try it again. Um that was one of the issues that people told me about when I ran for AG. They wanted me to try to address it. And I had every intention on trying to address it as strongly as possible. Um you get into the office and you realize you have limitations in that office. Um one of those limitations is I can only prosecute things that are referred to me from the labor commissioner. So if you have a labor commissioner who is not willing to uh or or sends you less wage theft types issues, then I don't care how big of a department you have ready to prosecute those, you won't have any wage theft to prosecute, right? And so there are a couple things that can happen. And I'm open to doing this, by the way. One of them is to authorize what we call concurrent jurisdiction for the attorney general to be able to to look into wage theft and take the cases himself, you know, him or herself without having to wait on a labor commissioner. Uh another is to ensure that you have a labor commissioner who's going to be aggressive and actually enforce the statutes that address labor commissioner, uh that um pardon me, that address wage theft. Um uh so uh that's a longer answer to the question. Yeah, you can create it, but uh you know, if you don't get referrals, as I have not gotten in many referrals, then um people are gonna be um disappointed uh in the office and not being able to address some of those issues.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

Yeah, that's I mean that's a big deal with us, obviously. Our our organizers go out and find some of these non-union contractors blatantly robbing their workers. Uh and you know, we we had a big case, Unforgettable Coatings was a painting contractor, um, stole over a million dollars of overtime from their workers, um, over a million and a half actually. And the uh the Department of Labor got involved, uh did an investigation.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

Federal deal yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:40

Oh, yeah, found him guilty, required he paid back not only the 1.6 million, but actually double it as a penalty. Um and then he pays it, and I think he just bought a cyber truck. So, you know, like he can steal millions of dollars. That should be criminal. It should be criminal. You should be in jail.

SPEAKER_03 39:00

There's gonna be criminal. Like, we talk about it all the time. Yeah, and we we we are sickened by the fact that like there's not even like hey, if you owe back workers X, yeah, you pay it back, but then they just like I like I I this is the example I give they gave on one of the podcasts before. It's the holidays. Suicide's up, robbery's up, everything's up, right? And if I'm wrong, shut me down. But if I were to go right now, there's a lot of people laid off, unemployed. People go do things out of necessity. They'll they'll go steal food, they'll go do whatever. But if I go and I go rob a 7-Eleven because I want to buy my kids Christmas presents, Kevin McMahon pulls me over, says, hey, you know, you robbed that 7-Eleven. I'm like, no, here, sheriff, here's the money back. I don't get to go home. I I don't I I I get thrown, what are they called? I get in the fucking pokey, the silver handcuffs, and they I go downtown.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:56

And it's unfortunate that like contractors are allowed to fucking get away with this because wage theft is wage theft. And just to say, here's the money I owe you, sorry, fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Well, look, I uh we'd have to check the statutes to see what the penalties are in that regard. I mean, maybe there are criminal components that exist that aren't sufficient. Maybe there aren't criminal components that need to be um added to the statutes. But again, it takes a governor who's willing to take that kind of stuff on. You don't have that in the current governor. I can guarantee you you won't see him pressing for new uh you know new statutes that are going to, number one, authorize the attorney general to pursue independently wage theft issues, and then number two, criminalize it at a level that makes sense uh and that is an actual deterrent. Um so you know that the that's that's that's where we are. Uh and I think it's important for folks. I'm glad you mentioned this because I have heard people say um they would have loved to have seen more wage theft prosecutions coming out of my office. And and again, the limitation um is uh I have to wait till I get referrals from a labor commissioner who is cracking down on wage theft. So it's the labor commissioner's fault you're saying. Um I'm not saying it's the fault. I'm not saying it's fault. Uh um but but that is a limitation, right? We listed and got judge. Gotcha. Yeah. I mean, look, there are other examples outside of wage theft, though. Uh outside labor commissioner stuff where the AG's limitation, the AG's jurisdiction is limited, right? Um you don't see me prosecuting murders on the streets. Primary jurisdiction for that is a district attorney, right? Every once in a while I can get in there and I can take it if there's a conflict or something, or if there is some extraordinary rack uh reason for me to get in get engaged in street level uh crimes. Now, prosecutions in the prisons, that's mine, right? I mean murders in a prison, that's what I do. Um and so there there are there are lines and lanes that that we have to abide by. Um and so that's that that's an important distinction that I think makes a very big difference in these kind of conversations.

SPEAKER_03 41:54

Yeah. We uh I went uh interesting enough, I went to High Desert a couple months back. Uh Director Williams, you know Director Williams. Solid dude, man. I like that dude, man.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

He's when you see him, tell him Ford said you got the right, you're the wrong fret. Just tell him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been in his office.

SPEAKER_03 42:10

I don't, but we went out there because he was he needed help uh with some of uh in the high-max, there was a bunch of like for lack of a better term, like cages that were like kicked open and and like where they where they put like the super fucking bad guys, I don't know what the fuck they call them, but they uh they let them out and they're in the yard and they're like in these about the size of this room, actually. So not small, but it and there's like these steel mesh fences so that they can't pass stuff through. But they were like bad weld jobs, and he was like, Hey man, can you come show my guys how to weld this? And then we'll just and I was like, I as much as I want to, I can't. I said, I have to. You need to hire a union guy to come do the work, bro. Like I'm sorry, but um, as we were there and I was giving him the ideas, I said, I'll tell you how you could do it, but I'm not gonna teach your guy how to weld. Like, I'm not like I can't do that. So he he understood, he got it, and then uh, you know, as we were there, I saw some of the security guards, dude. And dude had like a fucking shank that was like fucking 18 inches, bro. And uh it like one of the security guards was like he he confiscated the the uh and it was massive, and he's like, bro, he's like, we'll find like six of these a day. And I'm like, God damn, imagine the ones you didn't find, right? Yeah, and so the it was it was crazy, and then you know, you see the dudes, and um I went well, I went once before because we have our uh MC3 program up at High Desert where we get do reentry programs.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

Yeah, great.

SPEAKER_03 43:34

Yeah, dude, and I saw one of my apprentices.

SPEAKER_00 43:36

I passed the bill that helped to facilitate that. Oh, really? That was that was my bill. Hell yeah. Just so y'all know, yeah, just so you know, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:43

Oh yeah, you got a lot of bills, man. But yeah, that's it, it was good. But seeing some one of one of the apprentices in there was fucking mind blowing, you know what I mean? But it was even uh quick what up l made that dude's fucking weak, I'm sure. You know what I mean? So good stuff though. Yeah, we I I I enjoy doing the work up at High Desert, man. They have a culinary program. Well, you know what we're trying to do, ironically, is I'm trying to get the women's prison over there. What is it off Sun Yeah uh Sunrise? Whatever. Yeah, off of L uh Lam and Florence. Florence McClear. Right. Yep. Trying to get them uh a re-entry program for women in the trades, man. I'm I'm working hard, but they don't have no money, dude. It's it's tough.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

We we do have so when I was in the Senate, we passed a uh um a pilot program that I thought had been funded subsequently. So there is something existing right there that either they can do a trade on the way out or they can do C CSN college uh credits. Um and in fact I've been invited to come out to be the graduate speaker for one of the recent graduating classes under the bill that I actually sponsored back in 2017 it was. So they have a bit they have a cosmetology. Yeah, uh but I think they also got some trades out there. I mean, they probably just need to get be expanded to your point. You know, that there's not a lot of money out there. Um but yeah, those are important things you're doing.

SPEAKER_03 44:55

Yeah, we're trying to get them to do an apprenticeship readiness program. Yeah, right. So that that way when they when they're ready to be reintroduced or whatever it's called, uh uh they that they're they're ready to go into an apprenticeship. You know, we we have we have a a place for them like a plug and play, you know. That's not just for the men at High Desert, but for the women too, man. Absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:14

So Yeah, I mean that's that's one of the biggest components of the criminal justice system, right? I mean, look, when I was in law school, you learned that there are at least four, depending on what book you got, four, maybe five reasons for uh the criminal justice system to to to punish, right, and to isolate, but also to rehabilitate and to restore to community, right? Those first two we do real good at. We're good at isolating and to punish. We're not real good at rehabilitating and certainly not good at restoring folks to the community. And especially if you focus on those last two, people want to claim that you are weak on crime or soft on crime. Um I could give a uh uh I I could care less because you gotta look at all four of these things, right? People who are coming out, you want them to be able to stay out and be able to reintegrate into society and to be um active active, meaningful agents in society, and one of them is by giving them the dignity of a job. So kudos on you guys for trying to help them get there.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

Well, yeah, I mean that's what our programs do, right? Our programs are a lifeline uh for a lot of people. Um and you know, I told this story before, but you know, as an agent, I had a guy come to my window, he just got out, tattoos all over his face, needed a job, sent them to my old employer that I had just left to be a union guy. Uh, and then a couple weeks later, his buddy who just got out, his celly, comes to my window. Hey, my friend told me about I said, you know, he's got tattoos all over his face. Boom, send him to the same employer. Uh and then a month later, that employer calls me and he's like, Hey man, and I'm like, what? He's like, These guys you're sending with tattoos on their face. And I'm like, Oh shit, here we go. What? He goes, send them all to me. They are the best guys I got. That's good. You know what I mean? Because they had a purpose, they want to make something, you know. You mean they actually want to work? They wanted to work. They're not just lazy, no, they're not looking to depend upon the government, they wanted to work. But I mean, your your point on soft on crime, I think it it does concern people because you know, my my headquarters, district council 16 is headquarters in in San Francisco. Um, and they went through a tough period where, you know, I've always said as the build as a as a uh a union guy, I care about you know union issues and workers' issues, and that's what I care about. Um well when they stopped building there, they stopped building because crime was rampant, and people could just break in and do whatever and face zero consequences, right? There was no consequences. Um the homelessness became a problem. People didn't want to go to the office anymore because they'd have to park their car on the street and roll their windows down so they wouldn't get broken. Yeah. Step over three or four homeless people to get to the office. That does affect my members, right? That is a labor issue all of a sudden, you know.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

It affects all of us. Yeah. Remember what I said. People want a good job to buy a house in a safe neighborhood. Right. Right? I hear this all across the place. And by the way, that's not unreasonable. I don't know anyone who wants to live in an unsafe neighborhood. Right. I come from an unsafe neighborhood, right? I was on Snap. You mentioned Snap. I was on Medicaid as a single parent, right? So I know what it's like to struggle, and I know it's like to not have the best neighborhood environment. But what that what what that means is we need to look for opportunities to tweak the laws, right? Here's one thing that that I think people forget. Um legislation is is never, I shouldn't say never, but very seldom is it perfect. I may have passed one bill that didn't change at all from the moment I introduced it to the moment it passed. And it was a bill that, I remember it now, it was a bill that was an ATM bill. They used to have these little placards that you had to put on top of it about how much it costs you to um take money out if you did, if you weren't a member of the bank. They said we shouldn't have to do that no more because we put it on the screen now, right? And they were like, Yeah, you're right. So we just passed that bill and it was easy. But that's the only bill that I've known through that has gone through that has not had an iterative process that has not gone through changes. The reason why I say that is because sometimes we have to go back in and tweak laws that we thought were right, that were appropriate, that were affecting issues. You should you gotta go back and tweak it. Prime example. I just strengthened the pen the the penalty for fentanyl trafficking, right? Because the legislature a few years back lowered lowered the levels. And we found out that there was lowered, it was l um it pardon me, it was raised. It was raised too high and it was causing problems. And so you gotta go back in and you gotta tweak it, right? Uh that's that's a recognition that people are fallible and that the process is fallible. And the process is fallible because it's made of people, right? And so let's go back in and fix some of these things, right? Uh because no one, as like I said, wants to live in an unsafe neighborhood. Let's figure out ways to be able to provide the services for those who need them on the outside and provide the safety for those of us who also uh are living outside.

unknown 49:31

Right.

SPEAKER_00 49:31

So you wouldn't say you're soft on crime. Oh, absolutely not. I'm smart on crime. There you go. I'm smart on crime. I'm smart.

SPEAKER_03 49:38

Good shit. Well, we got about two, yeah, ten minutes. Yeah. You want I I don't I don't have any more topics. I burned through my list on accident because you answer stuff without me even being able to. No, no.

SPEAKER_00 49:51

I'm a lawyer.

SPEAKER_03 49:52

That's that's what we're supposed to do here, man. So you make the job easier. Um, but I appreciate you coming on. I it's not condescending, it's not um said with any other intent other than love and respect, man. Everything you've done for labor, greatly appreciated. That's some real shit. I don't need to lie, I don't need to bullshit you. And uh yeah, man, I mean, good luck in the up and coming race. I'll kick it to Daniel, and then if you want to close with any message you want to give to anybody or anything, okay.

SPEAKER_02 50:17

Right there is you have the platform, but I just uh I appreciate you uh coming out. Um every time I reach out to you, you respond, you know. Uh I told a story I had a member, yeah, uh he came to me and he's like, hey man, I'm trying to get a pardon, and I didn't know anything about that. I was like, all right, cool. And he's like, he just wanted me to help him write his thing so it sounded good. And I'm like, yeah, I'll help you, you know. Now I dropped out of high school. I'm the wrong person to go to, but he thinks highly of me. So kudos to him. So I'm like, all right, yeah, let's figure this out. You know, and we're just going through the paperwork, and I'm like, how do you even get pardoned? You know? And he's like, I there's like a board, and I'm like, well, who's on the board? And so I look it up, and you're on the board. And I'm like, man, so I called you, right? He's in my office and I call you, goes to voicemail, I hang up, I'm like, all right, well, he'll call me back three minutes later. Uh, you call me back, you say, Hey, I'm in a conference, I stepped out, is everything okay? Uh, and that is the type of communication that that we need with our elected officials, right? Uh, and you gave us some pointers, you you were very clear, like, hey, I can't do this for you. You know, he's got to go through the process. This is the process, but you kind of walked us through it and and let us know. And he went through that process. Uh, and uh, I mean, it got done, you know, and he uh is internally grateful, right? He's such a good human being.

SPEAKER_00 51:27

I've met him, he's a good guy.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

Uh he is just a good human being. I love that kid to death. We're gonna have him on the podcast at some point uh because he's got an incredible story. Uh but I do appreciate uh your willingness. We had our build with us rally. I called and asked if you can come, and boom, you were there. Um and so, you know, I called to say if you want to come on the podcast, and boom, you're here, you know. So it's like uh uh you're always there, and so I do appreciate uh I appreciate you. I appreciate what you've done for Labor. I'm glad to have you on and and good luck. Uh and yeah, now I would kind of allow you to kind of give a little closing statement or remarks or whatever you want the listeners to to know as we close this thing out.

SPEAKER_00 52:00

Well, look, let me tell you both. I appreciate you. Um I I've tried to be um a friend of labor in the best way that I know how. Um and the best way I know how is to just be Aaron Forward. Be myself. Not try to be somebody I'm not not to give not to give you platitudes and tell you, here's what I'm gonna do, but to show up. To be there, to be accessible, um, and and and to help engage in meaningful opportunities for your you and your members to to live and survive and to take care of themselves and their families. That's who I am. Uh that's that's what I believe in. And I want everybody out there to know that I will continue that moving forward. Um look, I want to be your governor, but make no mistake about it. If I'm not, I'm gonna be your neighbor. Uh and we're gonna continue uh to work together to improve our state because I sincerely and truly believe that we are in the best state in the nation. And if we continue working together, we can move Nevada forward. Thanks, y'all.

SPEAKER_03 52:55

Thank you. Thank you, man. I got one last thing. Uh so Saudi Arabia got the top floor in Mandalay Bay. No, I'm just saying. We were just walking around with the That was gonna be what I asked the uh the current governor. Nah, we appreciate you taking the time, though, man. Thanks y'all. Yeah, thank you.