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Private GPT: Stop Sharing Company Data

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In this episode of Smarter Strategic Thinking, Ray Quattromini is joined by Nipa Soni, AI and HPC Enablement Lead at FSAS Technologies, to explore their fully on-premises private GPT solution designed from the ground up for organisations that cannot afford to compromise on data sovereignty, security, or regulatory compliance.

FSAS Technologies is a Fujitsu spinoff operating across the UK and European market, aligned with the EU AI Regulatory Act and its emphasis on data control, governance, and privacy. Their private GPT runs entirely on-premises your data never leaves your environment, there's no internet exposure, and there are no per-query token costs. Licensing is user-based: unlimited usage for a fixed cost.

What you'll hear in this episode:

Nipa explains why public cloud AI models however capable introduce data sovereignty risk that regulated organisations and IP-sensitive businesses simply can't accept. They walks through the architecture that prevents data leakage, the department-level segregation model that keeps finance, HR, sales, and R&D siloed from one another, and how the system integrates with existing platforms including IBM Maximo via API and MCP.

The conversation covers the end-to-end customer journey: from an initial enquiry through to the £2,500 discovery workshop which includes AI consultants, data scientists, and mathematicians working alongside the customer's own stakeholders to identify one or two specific, high-impact use cases. The workshop takes roughly half a day to a day; a detailed findings report follows within a week and a half to two weeks. From there, POC development proceeds at no additional cost until the customer is satisfied before any further commercial commitment is required.

A UK manufacturer use case is discussed in detail: they deployed private GPT to address high error rates in part dispatch, training the model on their own proprietary data and seeing a significant reduction in errors and therefore returns within approximately three months.

The episode also addresses AI ethics and governance, including FSAS's programme delivered to first-year college students exploring the societal implications of AI decision-making, and how those same ethics principles are embedded at the platform level making it well-suited to education environments and regulated industries.

This episode is relevant to: CIOs and Heads of Infrastructure evaluating on-premises AI, MSPs and resellers considering private GPT for clients, organisations in regulated sectors (legal, public sector, manufacturing, education), and any business concerned about what happens to their data when staff use public AI tools.

Smarter Strategic Thinking is produced by Fortuna Data a UK-based IT storage reseller and consultancy specialising in data sovereignty, LTO tape archiving, ransomware resilience, cloud strategy, and AI-ready infrastructure.

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Hi, I'm Ray Quattromini from Fortuna Data. Welcome to another episode of Smarter Strategic Thinking. Today we have Nipa Soni from FSas Technologies.

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Hi. Good to see you. Thank you.

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Nipa, what is your role within FSas Technologies?

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I'm responsible for AI and HPC enablement across FSas Technologies in the UK.

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working with

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also staff,

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but also more importantly being in front of customers, understanding their needs, understanding their business challenges and bringing that to life, whether that's within AI, whether that's within HPC,

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trying to understand and really feel customer pain points

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and bringing solutions to the table that's going to help them

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work better, smarter, more efficiently and help deliver their ROI.

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That's

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in a nutshell, what I do.

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how long have you been in it and where did you start?

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worked my way through the industry. I worked at several distributors. Manufacturers always worked for the large majority of my career. I worked with reseller partners and then customers, and then of recent to the last 7 or 8 years. It's more with end customers directly.

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private GPT.

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FSas built an on premise private GPT solution. Why why did they do that

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So number of different factors came into this. So one there was definite need in the market for something that was private secure. And that is in line with government regulations and rules. There was a lot of organizations out there which like a GPT solution, which are in the cloud, accessible to everybody.

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But the question is, how secure really is that your data, any organization's data, is absolutely key to what they do without the data. If you effectively don't have a business.

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why would you not want to protect that every single layer? And especially with AI

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protecting your data,

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having the control and having that security element

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with your data and with your AI solutions

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is really, really key.

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how does it differ from an on prem solution to a Claude and open AI, a deep sea? What what makes it different?

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so a number of different things. So you know, we can talk about all the tokens and versus no tokens. But outside of that

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this is a fully on prem solution.

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All the data, all the promise, all the information that's provided stays within that customer's environment,

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giving you that full control of security

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and flexibility

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not having to

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for things that you don't need.

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Customizing a solution that is tailored to your business needs.

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mentioned tokens.

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Yeah.

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every AI command that goes to a cloud, for example, you pay for a bunch of tokens. But

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are you saying that your private GPT solution, you don't need that

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I'm absolutely saying no, we do not need tokens.

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We don't go down the token. We. You have a license for a number of users and that is it. There's no tokens. All you can use it to your heart's content as much or as little as you like. And we appreciate that certain departments within an organization will use a private GPT solution a lot more than others, so giving them the opportunity to use it freely without having to be restricted with tokens and the cost implication with that

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you explain what it provides to a customer, what a typical customer would look like. And in particular, you've mentioned about privacy. How is that secured? Is it that they put it in a room and put a Faraday cage around

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security comes at the heart and the foundation of everything we do. Everything on prem data sovereignty. It's no longer just a buzzword. It is is the foundation of what customers need when they're looking at AI solutions.

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And that's what we build from scratch. So everything we do has got data sovereignty, security, governance and protection in mind. Everything we do is on prem.

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What it gives customers and what it can do is imagine you have very document heavy processes

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those can be automated with private GPT, imagine being able to talk to your own data, not having access to the outside world where hallucinations may ramp up because

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potentially

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wrong or false or incorrect information or outdated information.

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This private GPT will talk to your data that you implement into the system,

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and you're able to have a full on conversation with your data.

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automating that process, making things a lot easier, streamlining

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document heavy

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mundane tasks as well. And we all have them, you know, whatever job throw your way. And we all have mundane tasks.

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Take that element away. Let's bring some fun back into into work.

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We can actually absolutely help with that.

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it's your own

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proprietary information that you feed in.

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Correct.

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So you know you're not getting any erroneous sources of data, an injection into your code or whatever you're trying to do.

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Exactly.

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So this solution is completely customizable.

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It's not off the shelf.

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what does a typical build and delivery time look like? And who owns the IP at

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100% is customizable. So we start

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off with

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almost out of the box type solution

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where you've got the basics of a private GPT.

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from there we

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tweak tailor customize to whatever the customer needs.

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start off with a workshop. And the reason for this workshop

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is we are then able to define and figure out a specific use case for those customers. So how it works is

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there are stakeholders from within the business

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that we set up with, with representations from FSas Technologies. So whether that's a

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consultant, an AI expert, a mathematician, a scientist, scientist, whatever it might be that you need on that day.

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From there, we let customers

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effectively talk to their own data. We give them access to a private GPT model where we've already pre uploaded their own data.

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And they get to see it hands on.

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And that's when we bring it to life in this workshop. Call it an ideation. Whatever we need to. That's where we bring this to life.

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And they can say actually this would help me in so many different areas.

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then from there we talk about, okay, well, what are the specific challenges within each of these departments? It typically if you have 15 stakeholders within a room, you'll probably get about 30 to 60 different challenges that they come up with. But I need it for this.

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I need it for this. And of course, realistically, you know, you're not going to do 50 or 60 challenges. So we figure out 1 or 2, 1 or 2 that are very, very specific. And that may actually benefit several different departments. And then we go from there. And that that process typically takes a week or two. So the ideation is a day workshop.

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And then the follow up after that is about a week, which gives us the opportunity to review and come back to you with, effectively a report to say, this is what we found out, this is where we're going to go next.

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the customer owns the instance in their environment. We own the original IP but the customer does with it whatever they wish to do.

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the reason for that is

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one, we want to make sure that the customer has full control over their data, over their environment.

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Everything stays on prem, stays with them. We don't we don't access it. The reason we own the IP is because of the,

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backend side of things. And what I mean by that is the support pack of maintenance and via the support pack is how the customers get the additional features. So

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as we develop our private GPT,

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the customer that's already got what in place in situ

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will then automatically receive those additional feature updates and upgrades.

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And that's that's the reason,

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a workshop starting at 2500 pounds,

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for an issue workshop.

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What does that deliver as an app?

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And what does it what how is it a controlled environment? And what what does the customer need from a commercial engagement process? And finally, if somebody says, I want to go on this, how quickly can that service be delivered or that workshop start?

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initial workshop is 2500 pounds.

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It's usually either half a day or a day, depending on the number of stakeholders you bring to that workshop. From the customer's point of view, we will then engage, either data scientists, mathematicians, AI consultants and experts to that workshop. Typically

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within a week and a half to two weeks. The customer then receive a full on report as to our findings and our suggestions, and then potential next steps.

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That's all included in that 2500 pounds initial upfront cost.

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And then from there, if the customer wanted to go down a policy route and investigate a particular use case further,

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there's no additional cost to that, right the way up until we get to policy. And it's just after the POC. If the customer is absolutely satisfied that this POC does exactly what we've

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planned out for its Do

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meets all their

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objectives and goals,

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then we move forward with a quotation.

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I think with

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AI

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there's a lot of options out there

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doing it this way.

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One, it's commitment from both organizations,

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but also

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it's almost like proof in the pudding. So, you know,

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we have the expertise. We have the knowledge.

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Let us show you first our capabilities. And then you decide if you want to go forward.

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And it's just a small cost at the beginning.

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AI models consultation can ramp up very, very quickly. That's not what we were trying to achieve here.

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So if somebody is interested in the workshop, what is the time frame to deliver an inquiry to actually engaging with that workshop?

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So initially we'd have a conversation with the customer.

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We understand what they're trying to do and if and it's okay if they don't know because a lot of customers want I know they need a I'm not quite sure what to do with it. That's where we come in and we can help. We have initial conversation to gauge your basic ideas, your basic requirements. From there, I probably need about a fortnight to gather all our experts together, make sure we have the right people in the room with with the customer.

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So roughly about two weeks, we think, from phone call to workshop is probably about right.

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our concern is data leakage.

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how do you ensure customer data doesn't leave that environment and isn't fit into a public cloud model?

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that's a really good question. And data leakage is a concern to many organizations that I speak to.

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The architecture

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is what prevents the data leak. We have right from the very beginning.

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Everything we design

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has got

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data sovereignty in mind.

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That's the fundamental thing that we do.

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The data

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that is generated, uploaded

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into our private GPT model

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stays with the customer.

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It has no

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outside access to the internet

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and also as well,

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when we look further around,

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let's say a customer purchase a solution, they're happy with it

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when we have our updates because I changes very, very rapidly.

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let's say a customer purchased a private GPT 1.5 version

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and within three months of implementation, there is a 1.6 version.

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The customer will receive all of those features at no additional cost and no additional access from us is just done via a link they can download and then they upload it. So again, even with the new features, there are no data leakages.

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The customer has full control.

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if a customer, for example, is scanning PDFs and they're indexing PDFs and doing everything else, and then six months down the line, somebody comes along and they want to do x, y, z.

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What what's the process

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for that?

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Please let us know. Is the is the first instance. Let's have that conversation. You would be appointed

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certain members of our AI team. Anyway to your project.

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you'd already have the contact. So get in touch with us.

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Let us know what you're looking for. It may be that it's already on the existing roadmap, and we can absolutely share that with you, whether it's 12, 18 or 24 months roadmap.

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And then she can appreciate these things move very, very quickly. And I

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however, if it's not on our roadmap, if it's something that is specific to a customer that they absolutely want to have,

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again, it's not off the table. Let's have a conversation. If we if we can build and tailor something to you, we absolutely will. Look at that

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Nipa, how does your solution integrate with existing platforms specifically, is there a link with Maximo, IBM's asset management platform, or or is it a completely standalone solution, or has it got any plugins or APIs that a user can use?

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So it definitely has API options and also NCP options as well.

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So if customer wants it to plug into certain applications, we can look at that in terms of Maximo specifically. This is where the workshop comes in. This is where we would work with the customer to investigate exactly what tools they use, and then work around a solution for that and integrate that at POC level to make sure the testing is done.

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And so working smoothly and efficiently.

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Okay. We have customers that aren't technical. How does the interface and on guide administration work for non-technical users? What is their experience?

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What would they say?

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the interface that we use is super easy, I love it, I find it so simple to use,

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imagine talking to a chat bot.

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Yeah, it's exactly the same type of feel to it. It's really easy. And also with this administration portal, which liaise obviously with the technical side of the business,

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they have the opportunity to pre-load certain prompts for certain departments. So, you know, if you're in H.R. You might use certain prompts versus somebody in finance or sales or marketing. Those prompts can be pre uploaded to make life easier for specific departments.

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Or they can create their own. So it's it's very very intuitive. It's very simple to use. You can do a lot of the pre-work ahead of time if needed. And also there's training involved okay. So

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partnering with the likes of FSas Technologies,

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we do offer training to our customers. So whether that's technical training or whether that's actually the use of the private GPT itself to non-technical users, that training and support is available.

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So is it a browser window that they would get or is it or can it be built into an application.

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you see the link you logging save into your favorites. You log into your private GPT and it's just like talking to the internet

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but with your own data.

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Nipa, what does the API and development layer look like from a customer wants to integrate and develop their own applications moving forward.

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private GPT is customizable to a certain level. It has the ability to add APIs and also

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MCP.

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That said, if the customer wants to further develop

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it then almost moves into a slightly different solution. That's when we start looking at the enterprise. Well, that's when we start looking into the likes of using

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to connect or cohere, as opposed to something like Mistral.

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So it is available to do. It just depends on what the customer is trying to achieve and what that kind of

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1 to 3 year plan looks like for the customer.

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And I'm going to bring it back to that workshop again. This is why we have that workshop is to really understand the customer's goals, their business ideas, their desired outcomes.

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And the ROI is going to deliver today and also in the future, so we can start working with the customer on that journey to where private GPT may well be the answer today for certain use cases. We can also, alongside that, work with customers on further developing additional AI solutions for them

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what are the ethics and governance controls built into the platform especially relevant if we're developing this in an education or a regulated industry?

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So private GPT is built with ethics and governance from the ground up. It's as simple as that. Because it runs fully on prem.

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It remains under the control of the customer, ensuring privacy, security compliant, unregulated regulatory standards, especially in education environments and something else that we do. And this this one's quite close to me because I as I mentioned, I work in it in enablement, bringing things to life. And making things happen for customers. Ethics within education was such a strong topic.

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We had to do something with that, and we did so as an organization, we believe in giving back into the community. We believe in social values

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and that social impact that we as a business, as a technology company can have to our local and wider communities. And one of the things that I looked at was delivering the ethics of AI into education.

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So yes, we can do that from a technical standpoint. And private GPT absolutely takes those boxes, but also from a student teacher professor standpoint as well.

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I could do whatever we want it to do as human beings. The question is, should we let it?

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What are the ramifications and the impact of that? And what are the societal impacts of of saying yes to an AI doing certain things?

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So we created what we done. We created a program which is aimed at first year college students,

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we take them on a journey around the ethics of AI. What's good AI, what's bad? I should we do something? Should we not do something? For example, we looked at okay, should I be used to mock exam papers?

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Imagine the uproar.

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And there was good points and bad points to it. And in some instances it can be a very, very good tool to use.

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thing is, it always needs that human in the loop.

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but it's educating people the future of tomorrow about the ethics of AI. So not only do we embed it and build it at the core from within our platforms, we actually deliver that message in different ways to give back to that societal impact.

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how does private GPT silo of different departments high charge finance, finance, the marketing to sales, how does it actually create that segregation so those other departments can't tread on other people's toes.

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Important right. Yeah. So that's all done at the

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technical standpoint.

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So when when we set up a project that's in the customer's environment,

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can set the right parameters, the right rules for every single department. And we exclude the all. So finance can't see what is doing. Sales can't see what was doing.

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You can segregate each department. You can take it even further to segregate groups of people.

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Management,

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upper management, high management, CIOs, etc. you can segway to who get access to what information so you can. Absolutely. And that's all customizable. All of that is customizable at the customer level. So whatever they want

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and however they want to I guess top that data and who the access to that data is absolutely doable.

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Yeah. Because some of them might be in R&D,

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correct.

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Yeah.

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intellectual property, you know, all these sorts of things. And it's for me that's quite important that, you know, whilst we've got a private chat bot, we, we saw a lot of different departments.

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100%. Yeah. It's important.

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Nipa we've mentioned a lot about private GPT.

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What are the use cases for the products from a customer's point of view?

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recent use case, which was a manufacturing organization in the UK.

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They wanted to do something very, very specific. And that was they wanted to reduce the number of errors when sending out parts. So they wanted to make sure that they send in the right part

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for the right product. Now this manufacturer supplies various parts of various other third party manufacturers.

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what they were seeing was a

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high error rate

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in the number of parts being sent out for send product,

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so they wanted to reduce the

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they put their data in a private GPT model.

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They trained it, they set the parameters around it.

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And then within about three months they saw a huge reduction in the number of errors.

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So not just a number of errors therefore then resulting in the number of less returns coming back. So that was a really, really good strong use case for profitability.

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In Europe, however, waste in a lot of organizations,

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especially around public sector, around law firms in particular, where they've got a lot of document heavy processes, they are utilizing private GPT within those spaces.

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And I think a lot of the time, if you look at Europe, they are much more in line with the AI, EU Regulatory Act,

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which is all about data sovereignty. And yeah, that's that's mainly the reason that we're pushing the data. That's the reason that data sovereignty is key to us as well. You know, we are Japanese company, but the UK work is part of the European team,

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Yes.

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and we are much more aligned with European versus say,

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Yeah, like U.S acts.

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a customer wants to go on a journey and, and look at private GPT, what are the next steps?

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If you've heard something today that sparked your interest, let's have a conversation. Get in touch is have a phone call. Let's have a teams call, whatever it might be.

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Let's meet up. Let's understand your concerns. Let's and let's talk about what you're trying to achieve. And we take it from there. It's really, really simple. We're trying to keep this as simple as possible. AI's very, very complicated and can get very complex.

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Talk to us, pick up the phone, that it's that simple,

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now. It's been a pleasure. Thank you very much.

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