(Audio Only) Breakfast at Alistair’s

Richard and Mark settle into Alistair’s American Dinner in Crystal Palace for a laid-back breakfast and a round of listener questions. 

Between cutlery and the comfort of a booth, they dive into thoughtful chats, and the kind of banter that makes you feel like you’re right there with them.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Good morning, TikTokers. Welcome to this live simultaneous recording of our latest episode of a Jolly Good Natter over coffee and biscuits. I'm looking at you down the TikTok line. I'm looking at you watching on the video on YouTube. My name, as always, is Richard Story, and this fellow next to me is going to prove once again that he remembers his name. Go on, tell him what it is. Mark Cameron. Just for a second, you were on edge, weren't you? You actually thought he wasn't going to remember it. But we are here today, and this is very exciting because we are in a new venue. We are in the uh with Alistair's American Diner on the Crystal Palace Triangle at West O Street. Now we're going to be here for a little while, so if any of you TikTokers are in the area, do please pop in and come and say hello. And I'll buy you a coffee and I'll charge it to your card. Oh, thank you. Yes, so we're here, and we've just had the most fantastic cooked breakfast you could ever imagine from this quintessential American diner. I mean, you've got to see the menu to believe it. It goes on for pages and pages and pages. I mean, you you you would get through the menu. You'd need about twice as long to read it as you would for a Barbara Cartland novel, and that's saying something. Yes. Anyway, so here we are. We don't actually, we're having a break with tradition now, because you know we've had quite a few special guests lately. This time we have no special guests. Unfortunately not. No. So I'm going to have to resort to questions like Mr. Cameron, have you had a good week?

SPEAKER_02 1:19

I certainly have, yeah. I've I've just been very busy just trying to get things done around the house, to be honest. But uh yeah. Well, that was exciting, wasn't it? It really was.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

Try to get things done around the house.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

Spring spring convenient, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:35

Okay, well, why do you think I'll just have another sip of coffee?

SPEAKER_02 1:37

Yeah, that coffee is quite nice, actually.

SPEAKER_03 1:39

See, a jolly good netter over coffee and biscuits. See what we did there. Yes. Now, one of the questions I've been asked over and over again, in fact, there are quite a lot of questions that kind of keep recurring as the uh uh as the time goes on since having left the Big Brother house. But one of the ones that keeps coming up is Am I interested in any other reality shows? And in particular, people ask me whether I um would do traitors and Love Islands. I hope you think I'd manage on Love Islands.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

Oh, Love Island, you'll be brilliant on that, I reckon.

SPEAKER_03 2:09

Well, I I decided I I'd better not do it because I didn't want to intimidate all the other contestants with my superior physique. Um but uh traitors, I don't think I'd be very good at traitors because I'm rubbish at lying. Well, that's my story anyway. Um, and uh even if I did come up with a plausible lie, if I was one of the traitors, I'd forget about it 24 hours later what I'd said, and they they'd kind of be able to catch me out. Of course, you don't have to be a traitor, you could be one of the faithful.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

True, very true.

SPEAKER_03 2:37

But if you're one of the faithful, which would suit me better. But if I was, of course, you're likely to get murdered, and that's not um that's not conducive to long life, is it?

SPEAKER_02 2:44

No, well, that's definitely not, no.

SPEAKER_03 2:46

No, no, no, don't slurp. The table manners, table manners, you see. Um anyway, anyway, having said all that, there is another reality show that well, maybe you know about it already. Maybe you know about it already, but I stumbled across it the other day on Channel 4 Catch Up, and it's got me absolutely hooked. And it's called Handcuffed. Have you seen Handcuffed?

SPEAKER_02 3:08

I've never heard of that.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

No, I hadn't either. Well, if people think that Big Brother is a tough old ride, imagine this, right? Imagine that you are put together in pairs, someone who you've never met before, but who is poles apart from who you are as a person.

unknown 3:24

Right?

SPEAKER_02 3:24

I know how that feels.

SPEAKER_03 3:25

Right, you're very kind. I'm feeling that right now, actually. Anyway, and you're handcuffed together with this person, and you've got to stay like that for however long the thing goes on for. Um, and if you're the last pair to stay like that, you win the big prize at the end. But needless to say, people are getting on their nerves very each other's nerves very quickly, especially people who have different political ideas and this kind of thing. Um, and they just can't stand it, and so they they are at liberty anytime to have the cuffs unlocked, and that's the end of it for them. Question. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

Are they handcuffed each other for 24 hours a day? Yeah. So even so when they have to go to have a shower, go to the toilet.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

Wow. The only slight um uh bit of leeway is that when they go numb and they do that, they're given a slightly longer check. Anyway, anyway, while you're sort of thinking upon that, I'd better have a look at the TikTok here, see what Ronnie says I couldn't imagine anything worse. Well, no, I mean I'm not sure I'd want to do that either. Would you want to do that? No, no, no. Unless it was with me, of course, that'd be alright. Um, anyway, who oh all right, bear with me, folks. I just want to see. Um uh Ronnie says, Is this your son? No, Ronnie. This this is my uh this is my erstwhile co-presenter, Mark Cameron, who always remembers his name. And uh, if you would like to go onto YouTube and have a look at A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee and Biscuits, you will see plenty of episodes there that we've done now, including with Tate from the Big Brother House, with Fabio Fernandez, who's releasing an album of my music later this year, um, and also the um exit episode that we did after I left the Big Brother House. Yes, amongst others. So there's plenty there to featurize upon. It's called A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee and Biscuits. And if you like it, we would consider it a personal favour. We would, if you would press the like button and subscribe to the channel. That's what we need. Uh, and we will love you forever, won't we?

SPEAKER_02 5:20

You yes, we certainly will. I I do like that's at least one person from your TikTok live always asked is that your sign, which is brilliant. It's true, it's true. It's true. If Fabio was your sign last week, yes, yes, they did.

SPEAKER_03 5:33

It's true. Yeah, okay. Um, oh now Storm is saying, Did you succeed on your spring cleaning mission? I'm assuming she's directing that question that you still go in there.

SPEAKER_02 5:42

As you probably know, it can take uh quite a while because I'm putting quite a few things down to the dump as well. Right. And also to the charity shop.

SPEAKER_03 5:52

So you know, charity shops, then there's a thing. I'm glad you mentioned it because what I am old enough to remember that there was a time when if you had something to get rid of, you know, charity shops would just take stuff. They won't take it now. And and they can't send someone around to collect it, you can't leave it outside the door because that's considered flight tipping. So it's actually very difficult to give to charity these days. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 6:14

Oh, that chair, do you do you remember that uh that wheelie chair that I passed your house?

SPEAKER_03 6:20

Yes, indeed. Do you know is it still there? What he's referring to, Muis there for quite a while, wasn't it? I I recently my my my wheelie chair that served me well finally gave up the ghost, and I had to get a new one, but I didn't know how to get rid of the old one. Well, I knew that if you just put it outside with a notice on saying, please take me, then that didn't count as flight to you, you see. So I put it out there, but no one took it.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:43

But eventually it did disappear, so I don't know where it went. If you're sitting on a kind of rather dodgy swivel chair, then you've got me to thank you for that. So there you go.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

With two wheels instead of the three.

SPEAKER_03 6:54

Actually, I think it had five on a sort of you know, what do you call the tripod with five bits instead of three? I don't know. Anyway, can someone answer that in the chat? Yeah, what do you call the tripod with five wheels instead of three? What else have we got? Elsie is here, um, Samantha is here. Hello, Samantha. Um I should have brought my glasses. Oh, okay. We're going a little bit on a tangent here. Sophie says, Can I ask how you became an author? You can. Um actually, it's something I'd always wanted to do for ages before I actually got around to starting it. Um and one day I just suddenly thought, well, that book isn't going to write itself. If you want to write it, just get on and start. So I did. I haven't been to writing school or nothing like that. Just sat down and got on with it. And I'm very happy to say they've uh found uh an audience. And um, and there are now 15 books available. That's really good. That's really impressive. And uh and are there for your dictation and delight. And if you are anywhere near SE19, you can get a signed copy from the Mozart Bar. Uh, and sometimes I do book signings as well. Or they're all available on Amazon. You can get them in paperback um as downloads for your Kindle or e-reader, and also in audio versions. So there you go.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

Do you do the voice on the audio?

SPEAKER_03 8:04

No, I don't. Lots of people have said I should. But you see, the people who do the audios, they're really good. They're proper actors with properly trained voices. And uh I wouldn't mind doing it actually, but I'm aware that they kind of do it better. Yeah. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, right, so who else have we got here? Now you've got to um remember, TikTokers, that um when the messages come in, they kind of shoot up the screen very quickly, and I do miss things sometimes. Um, Sophie says you're on my to read file. Oh, pile. Yes. Fantastic. Well, that's great. Okay, well, I I'd be interested to know. Let me know how it goes, Sophie. That'd be fantastic, yes. Um, right, okay, and oh now, who else is there? Uh Elijah says, Richard, I voted for you to win in Big Brother. That's very kind of you, Elijah. Um, I can't tell you how grateful I am for all those for you who did vote for me. And I can't decide whether I'm more delighted that I won or more amazed that I won. Because I never thought it was gonna happen. You didn't either, did you?

SPEAKER_02 9:02

When you said you were answering the Big Brother House, I did well, first I couldn't believe it. And secondly, you said, Oh, I'll probably go out in the first week. Yes, but you weren't the first person because Emily went out in the first two hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:16

She didn't even have a chance to unpack that stuff. But then she did come back later, of course. Yes. And and the funny thing about that was you know that one of my stock lines, if you've been listening to these uh these uh videos and these podcasts a lot, you'll know that I'm always saying we we highlight some kind of issue or problem, and then my final word on the subject is always when I'm Prime Minister, I'll sort all this out. And I hope you know I'm just kind of you know, it's a bit tongue-in-cheek, it's not really really serious. Or is it? Um actually, I reckon at the moment I've probably got as good a chance.

SPEAKER_02 9:43

I don't say anything, but I had a response from uh someone from HR.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

All right, well, well before you tell me what the response was, then you see you kept that a secret. See, so there's me one waltzing all over the big brother house, listening to all these, you know, political conversations, saying, Well, when I'm prime minister, I'll sort all this out. Well, then halfway through, Emily comes back to the house. Having been kicked out on the first night, she then was brought back again halfway through. She walks into the bedroom and goes, I'm back about this. Well, she really does want to be prime minister, God bless her.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

That's a lot of work.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

Well, well, it is. I mean, why would anyone want to do a job like that? All you do is get criticized and told how rubbish you are.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Yes, yes, at the moment, um, our current prime minister is um getting uh earful of it at the moment.

SPEAKER_03 10:29

Well, he is rather. I suppose he's trying his best.

SPEAKER_02 10:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:31

See, see, now if I did become prime minister, I may have mentioned this before, but it's so exciting, I want to tell you again. I would become prime minister and I would hold the job for one day. Because all prime ministers are very popular on the first day they're in office. Have you noticed that?

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Very true.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

And everyone go cheers and shouts, and everything's gonna be fantastic. But then after that, it goes downhill. So I would be prime minister for one day, and then I'd leave and I'd go and start the after dinner speaking circuit, or I'd make more of these podcasts, see, and then I'd retain the popularity. How cool is that?

SPEAKER_02 11:02

And also you get paid for life after that as well.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

Well, yes, yes, in that the truth, yes. There we are. Yes, anyway, so you were saying you you'd had to reply to your um your HM what was it?

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Tell the from from HR. So you said that you applied to be prime minister. And they were just checking um your faculties, because I don't know if you remember on your previous podcasts that uh AU you wasn't after your PE sessions at school, you may have uh got hurt doing PE. Was it was it PE got hurt? Oh no, karate, was it karate? I think it was.

SPEAKER_03 11:44

Go on, carry on now.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Yeah, so anyway, long story short, let's check in that you're actually okay, you didn't get bumped uh bumps on your head too hard, and that uh you're actually okay to actually run a country. Oh, I see. I was always getting bumped on the head all the time.

SPEAKER_03 11:57

Yes, yes. That's why I've turned out this way.

unknown 12:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:02

You think there's a problem? I I I worry about you, you know. These these silences do disturb me. They do.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

How's your week then anyway? Because uh I spoke to you, I spoke to you on Sunday, and then uh since then I've not really briefed. Yeah, I've not really spoken to you ever, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:17

No, but I I it's all right, I haven't taken it personally.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

I'm glad.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

I I I I have sobbed myself to sleep, but I haven't taken it personally. Yes. And and actually I've sobbed myself to sleep several times a day, waiting for the phone to ring, waiting for you to come and knock on the door to make sure I'm all right, but you haven't come, have you?

SPEAKER_02 12:34

I did knock on your door this morning though.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

Well, that was different. We had that. You see, see what I have to work with. See what I have to work with? I worry about you, you know. Thank you. You're welcome, you're welcome. Um, anyway, so that what we got here. Oh, now Sophie says, Boyfriend and I bought oh, oh come on. Boy, boyfriend and I bought each other your book for Christmas. What the same one? Did you buy the same book? You each bought the same one and gave it to each other like that. Um, that's incredible. Uh well, thank you for doing that. Uh, what else have we got here? Um uh oh, that's a nice one. Ronnie has a joke for us all. Ronnie says, What do you call a magical dog? I don't know. A magical dog is called a laberatabrador. I can't even say a labracrocadabrador. Yeah, very good. I haven't even had a drink yet. Yes. Um, hi Janet. Um, Liam Lawton, you're here. Nice to see you too. Hello, Melanie. Oh, Melanie's saying who's your friend? I don't think I've got any. Have I got any friends?

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Just a stranger. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:36

This is Mark Cameron who co-presents the um the podcast that we do called A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee and Biscuits, which you will have heard me mention endlessly on the uh TikTok lives. Um, and here we are. Now, all you on the TikTok watching this, we're sitting here in Alistair's American Diner in Crystal Palace, but we are simultaneously over there recording it for our next podcast episode. So um, if you miss any of it on the TikTok, you can uh watch it a bit later on YouTube when it goes live in due course.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Yes, in due course.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

Yes, wait today. I mean give us a chance. We'll give him a chance, he's the one who does it. I'm rubbish with techniques.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll do the editing. So you don't really do much on the No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 14:19

The whole plan was that I don't want to do anything at all. Just home lazy, it's always been my trouble.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

Fortunately, he he's quite you know a sucker for hard work, so he doesn't mind doing all that stuff. Yes. And proof, yes. It works beautifully, it's a wonderful partnership. Yes. Um, anyway, Star says, You guys are so cute, and so am I. Glad to hear that. Uh all right, here's one um from uh someone whose name I can't see. Have you had any dates with Caroline yet? Uh no, but we did have a nice peach while we were in the house. Okay, I've been working on that one for weeks.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

Just holding the just holding it in.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

Yeah, just holding it in.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

Um I do enjoy that. At least one person still carries that Caroline joke on because why why not?

SPEAKER_03 15:05

Well, uh oh well, every time I do the TikTok, that that comes up.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

Yeah, she she she is uh keep going, people. She has become an institution, yes.

SPEAKER_03 15:12

Actually, for those of you who were on the TikTok last night, you may remember we had someone there who I I won't mention, I won't say the name, um, even though it was only a first name. But you remember she started coming out with all little insulting comments of the sort that Caroline used to say. So everyone was saying, Richard, I loved you on Big Brother, I voted for you, you are my favourite, da-da-da-da. And then in comes this new person who says, I don't think you should have won. You're old and boring and a loser, like this, you see. And so that really pushes my buttons. I said, Oh, come on, you can do better than that. I had seven weeks with Caroline. Can't you come up with anything a bit more imaginative? Uh, and it really quite an exciting little segment. Um, and if you were there last night, you know you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. But you see, everyone always wondered, they did, how I managed to cope with Caroline in the Big Brother House. And as I've said before, it really didn't bother me. I mean, my only kind of question was why did she continue to do it? But I and I and I still don't know why she did it. Um, but it reached the point where uh other housemates began to refer to it as a one-sided feud. Because she was going for me, going for me all the time, and I just wasn't reacting to it.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

And and that is the best response to a lot of things. Absolutely. People who are trying to antagonize you, the best thing to do is just simply ignore them, and then after a while, they will just simply get bored of it and they're thinking because all they're doing is just hitting their own head against a brick wall after a while.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

Because you're putting your shield up around you, aren't you? Or your wall. So yeah, yeah, you did well, you handled it.

SPEAKER_03 16:36

And and um I I came out with quite a little succinct saying last night without planning, it just sort of emerged, where I said, Um, a bully can only be a bully if someone is being bullied. And if the person being bullied just doesn't react and carries on like normal, well, the bully's standing there with nothing to do, really. So there you go. So if you're being bullied, just you know, just you know, let it wash over you because it's no big deal, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

Um do you want to tell them about because we I know you mentioned it on the previous pod, but when you were in school, you you got bullied, and then do you want to tell them the story of how they stopped bullying you? That'd be quite interesting for people to hear again that someone who haven't listed.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

Um yeah, I was. I was bullied as a um in my early school years. Uh but it was quite a little kind of primary school out in the country, and um one day I was given a guitar for my eighth birthday present. I still remember it uh to this day it being sort of pulled down off the wardrobe where it had been hidden. And um, and I was the only one in my class at school who played guitar at that stage. I was only eight, and um suddenly I became like a little minor celebrity within within the school, and the bullying stopped from that point on. I I suddenly had status. And uh, as time went on, the years rolled by, and I ended up pursuing a a career that involved walking onto platforms, walking onto stages in front of audiences of all different sizes and having to deliver. The confidence came back, um, you know, the shyness disappeared. Uh, so yeah, that's how that's how it happened.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:06

Yes, yes. Now I'm very aware that we're we're I'm missing out lots of um, oh geeky is it? Hi, geeky, hi Sammy. Um, famous pine or famous pan-fried fish. That's a good name. That can't be your real name, surely. You should consider that name. If you get born with Mark Cameron, you could be called pan-fried fish. That's a quite good enough to eat. Anyway, famous says, I was amazing in Big Brother. Thank you so much. Glad you enjoyed it. Um, and who's this? Uh I I can't read the name because it's in loopy letters, but it says, You deserve that win. I thought you were amazing. Thank you so much. That's really nice for you to say, yeah. It jolly well is. Um, oh, Jelly Bean says, I did not take to Caroline one bit. You weren't the only one, Jelly Bean. Um, and it's it's interesting that uh, if you remember, she um got she bought herself immunity quite early on for a couple of weeks, and then she managed to get what they call the save and replace card so she could save herself. So she she stayed in quite a bit longer than she probably would have, yes, just by clever gameplay.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

It was it was amusing. It because we ever was watching from home, we could all we we she played a very good game plan, a very, very good, and she thought that could last, and that's the thing. Yes, and once your luck runs out, it runs out.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

Yeah, absolutely, yes. Well, and the first chance that she could be voted out, she wasn't. Yeah, so there you have it. Yeah, but interestingly, that first time when she went into the shop and she bought herself two weeks of immunity, which is what it was, however, it wasn't really, because the first of those turned out to be do you remember the fake eviction? Do you remember the fake eviction? So we all thought it was, but it actually wasn't. So she bought herself two weeks, and in fact, she only got one week because if she had gone out, she'd have been coming back anyway. So there you go, you see all this devious stuff going on.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

Question for you, Richard. Which out of all her hats that she wore.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

Oh, the cowboy hats.

SPEAKER_02 19:54

Yeah, yes, which which was her favourite? Which was the favourite that you uh oh, I don't know that I had her favourite. I didn't really, but there's got to be something nice you've got to say about her.

SPEAKER_03 20:05

Yes, well, the one that stuck in my mind was the silver. She had a kind of a silver glittery one. Yes. Um, but I remember there was uh there was a blue one as well, and and a black one. She had quite a few different ones. She did.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

I don't know how she got all those in her suitcase.

SPEAKER_03 20:16

I don't know. And you know, all the lads who were there, myself included, we just kind of brought basically a few things, a few things with us. But the girls brought tons of stuff, loads of outfits. It was absolutely extraordinary. You had to see it to believe it. Um, anyway, there we go. Um, number two says, Are you and Caroline friends? Well, we spoke once since the uh the end of the Big Brother series, so uh, I'll let you make of that what you will. Okay. Who else have we got? Amy is here. Oh, oh, oh, phone nearly fell over. Um, hello, Aaron. Uh hello, uh, hello, oh, hello, Dems Dems, Dems is here.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Um now then put yourself in.

SPEAKER_03 20:53

Oh, sorry, there we go, there we go, there we go. Right now, one of the regular features we have on the uh podcast, a jolly good natter over coffee and biscuits available now on YouTube, um, is we have this thing that we're going to do called the taste test. And we um like to just sample some kind of edible item each time, and we give it marks out of ten and give it our observations. And we thought that since we are being so royally looked after here in Alistair's American Diner in Crystal Palace, we thought we would use for the taste test one of the cakes from their very own display. How cool is that? Right. Now at the moment, people around the place are nowhere to be seen. So we'll have to wait. But that that's uh going to be our next little um bit of fun and game, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 21:37

Yes, it will be, yes. Yes. So what so what have you got planned over the next week or so there, Richard? Oh right, that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

Uh well, um oh, I'm glad you mentioned that because um it's Mother's Day coming up this weekend, and so I'm going to visit my parents for for Mother's Day, that'd be nice. I hope you've all got some nice plans for Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

Yeah, if if you can put in the chat what you're getting for your mother on Mother's Day, that'd be nice if we can read them out.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Yeah. And just in case this interests you, um uh you may know that I'm on the Cameo website, uh, where I can make personalized video messages for for anybody who you want, really, but since it's Mother's Day, that's what we're talking about. And here's the good bit Cameo has reduced the prices they've got a sale on in the run-up to Mother's Day. So if you'd like me to make a little message for your mum, um you go over to Cameo, type in my name in the search bar and it'll come up there. And uh yeah, and you'll be hearing from me uh at a cut price. So what more could you want than that? Yes. Yes, yes. Um, right. Well, uh, Mr. Cameron, do you want to go over and uh choose something for the taste tester? And what while you do that, I can cook and continue to entertain the viewers.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

Sure. All right.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

Yes. All right, don't take too long and don't eat it on the way back. We both have to try it. I see I worry, I do, I I worry about him. I do. Um now then, Ben is here. Hi, Ben. Neville says, Who is that guy? Right, Neville, I'll tell you. That is my friend Mark Cameron, and he co-presents with me the the uh the podcast that we do, which is called A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee and Biscuits. It's available on all streaming platforms, but particularly YouTube. Um, and uh yeah, and that's who it is. And he's just going over there now to the counter to get us a little cakey to do for the taste test. What are you saying? What is it?

SPEAKER_02 23:16

So I have got myself a red velvet.

SPEAKER_03 23:20

Uh you've got it yourself. Yeah. Not not for both of us.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

Well you didn't actually tell him, we just said, Mr. Cameron, would you like to decide what you'd like?

SPEAKER_03 23:26

Well we we always we always do the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

You want the same thing?

SPEAKER_03 23:30

No, no, I mean we can share it. Just if the one is enough. Unless you're hungry.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Yeah, do you want to wanna share it?

SPEAKER_03 23:36

I mean, how big? It looks quite big.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:37

I think one is enough we can share.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we'll just have one there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

Yes, could I have a cup of tea? Uh regular tea, please.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Yeah. Uh yeah, I yeah. Same, same again. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 23:54

There you see. So, this is how it is. This is how it's gonna be with the podcast when the whole point of it was we're trying to find different locations, ask different special guests, talk about different stuff, um, and look, even wear different coloured jumpers.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

That's it.

SPEAKER_03 24:08

What more could you possibly want? Yeah, what more could you want than that? And I know you're kind of probably gonna find this difficult to believe, but despite our close proximity, I actually managed to put up with him.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

Yes, well, might start with you more like it.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Oh, you're very kind. See, look, Charlotte is on here. She thinks Charlotte is saying, I love you, Richard. That's very kind. Mark says, Will you do food challenges? Yes, Mark. We've got one coming any moment. We've got um an in-house red velvet cake that we're gonna pass judgment on. Oh. And Steve Phillips says, How do you know each other? Uh well, I just found him under a banana box in the park. No, no, no, no, we know each other because we go to the same church. There you have it. Christchurch Annley, hop in and say hello one week if you're in the area. Um, Essie says, Who's your friend Richard? Smart looking man he is.

SPEAKER_02 24:55

Oh, thank you very much.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

Essie, have you got your glasses on? Oh, smart looking man.

SPEAKER_02 25:01

Thanks, Richard. I'm worried about you, yeah. I do. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

Um, this is my friend Mark Cameron, who always remembers his name.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

I do.

SPEAKER_03 25:08

And who co-presents with me our podcast, which is called A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee and Biscuits. Go to YouTube and check it out. And if you enjoy it, and I'm sure you will, because of very exciting episodes, please do subscribe to the channel, and we will love you forever, won't we?

SPEAKER_02 25:23

We certainly will. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 25:24

I will anyway. Yes. Okay. So we are now about to embark on our second course. Oh, hi mum. Come on, can I put it in? You you you can with pleasure, yes. And there we are.

SPEAKER_02 25:37

She's just taking our breakfast away.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

He's met ours already, and now his mum is taking away all the yes. I don't know why washing up, but it's some washing up mummy. Some washing up. Well, we can help with that if you like.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

It's very she's very kind.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

Well, of course, of course, I wasn't gonna help because I I'm I'm you know holding the fork here. You would have had to have done it.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

Yes, true, true.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

See how I worry about you, you know.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Thank you. I'm glad that you are very concerned.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

Yeah, I told you you should have brought your marigolds.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

I don't I don't wash that with marigolds, you know.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

Don't you?

SPEAKER_02 26:07

No.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

Well, what do you do then? Just with your bare hands. That explains a lot. Yeah, yes. Um, right, now then uh Angela says, Hi, can you say Megan is a bad boy? Why would we want to say that Megan is a big boy?

SPEAKER_02 26:22

I'm not too sure. Why why would why would you want to do that?

SPEAKER_03 26:24

We need more information than that. We do. Um, right, okay. Um, what have we got here? Oh, thank you very much, Oz. Thank you. Um so who else? Uh I'll scroll back a little bit, make sure I haven't missed anyone. Uh I think you're okay. Essie says, Ah, hi Mark, you two are so sweet. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

Thanks, now it's interesting, isn't it, that of all the episodes of this that we've done, it's only now that people are starting to say that you're sweet. I must finally have started to rub off on you. That was that's the only explanation.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

Wow, thanks, Richard. Um well, thank you, everybody, for the nice compliments because Richard doesn't compliment me. Makes me very sad. Yeah, after this after this podcast is finished, um, I'll be going home, walking home, crying.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

Uh-oh, don't say that. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks. Yeah, then can make sure that everyone can see that.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Sorry, I'll move that away.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

No, I'll just move this one. See, there it is. Now, this is the red velvet cake that we're gonna share. I hope you're gonna share it with me, are you, you old girdle bucket? And and we will then tell you what we think. And you notice that it even matches my my top. You see, I planned it that way. I didn't really, that was a rather pathetic joke, but you know, I do try. First of all, I'm gonna have some milk in here in this tea. Do you have milk in your tea? Of course you do.

SPEAKER_02 27:40

I say, so did you get any questions?

SPEAKER_03 27:43

Uh oh, yeah. Um, okay. Oh, there's 20 new messages it says. Let's scroll down a bit. Um, Popeye says, I love you so much. That's very kind of you, thank you. Hello, Fiona. Uh uh Oh, Steve Phillips says, Richard, you didn't squeeze the teabag. That you're right. Well, I did tie a little bit, but it's difficult when all you've got is one spoon. Um, I know people tea and coffee is a kind of a very personal drink, really. Everyone has their own particular way they like it, like it puts it down. Yes. Um, but anyway, listen, Steve, if you're around in the area, pop in and and and you can squeeze the teabag for me if you like. Um, and then someone with a totally unpronounced name says, Did you just call him a guzzle bucket? Ha ha ha. I did, you know, I did. Because you are arguing. Oh. I think he always does that. I ask him questions, he doesn't answer. Anyway, cheers.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

I haven't finished my tea yet.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

I've just started mine.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:39

Right. Okay, well, when you're ready, we can do the taste test and we can see what we think of this red velvet cake. Do you know why they call it a red velvet cake?

SPEAKER_02 28:49

Is that the food colouring dye or something, right? Because it's it's just normal chocolate cake, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 28:55

Oh, is it?

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

Oh, I didn't know. I just seemed because it was red. There's a bit of a clue in the title.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

And then they put food colouring dye, that's what I assumed anyway. Right. I've squeezed the tea bag, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 29:05

Oh, see, yeah, he squee he squeezed his teabag, yes. Right, do you want to squeeze mine as well?

SPEAKER_02 29:09

No.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

Whatever turns you on, you know. Whatever lights your candle.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

No, you're alright. You if you don't want to squeeze a teabag, that is obviously your own preference. You've got to you've got to get that extra little bit of flavour out, you see.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

It's true, it's absolutely true. Okay, well, right, so the big moment has come. Is that is that camera? Is it oh, is it following you? I just want to make sure people can uh actually see who are watching the video.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

That's all right, let's have a look.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

Okay, oh it's following- oh it is, it's following you around.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

How do we know it's following me around?

SPEAKER_03 29:37

Right, okay. See, what you can't see there, TikTokers, is that the um we've got this very clever automated video camera that actually follows the movement. It follows you, you see. Um, but that means that sometimes it's not looking where you want it to. So is it all right now?

SPEAKER_02 29:51

It's all right now. It okay. It I forgot it had it on the face tracking, so I've I've taken a face track.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

But it appeared to be tracking your face rather than mine.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

Well, I'm the sweet one, remember, as mentioned in the comments.

SPEAKER_03 30:03

See, I think I'm gonna have to go for therapy after this. Right, are we gonna try this?

SPEAKER_02 30:07

Yes, well, let's put it in the camera so people can actually see it. That's why I pushed it. Right, okay. You're pushing it away. I'm I'm there we are.

SPEAKER_03 30:12

Look, here we are. This is it. Well, get around to sample this. Aren't you jealous now? Don't you wish you were here? Well, I did invite you. Yes. There we are.

SPEAKER_02 30:19

Okay. We've got half, half uh you're gonna have that big bit, are you? No, a quarter quarter each.

SPEAKER_03 30:24

A quarter each. Okay, what's gonna happen to that bit then? Your fractions are terrible. Did you do maths at school? I worry, I worry about it. I worry about it.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

Right, look, that's yours.

SPEAKER_03 30:32

Yeah. On the small bit. You've given me the small bit. Okay, I know my place. All right, I small bit's fine. I'm not offended. I'm not upset.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

Right, yes, that's it.

SPEAKER_03 30:44

Yes, yes, we're gonna do it. Right, here we go. Right. So the red velvet cake taste test. Here we go. You know what that reminds me of? Of course you know, I haven't told you yet. Shall I tell you? What else can I say? I'm not gonna say roast beef and yorkshire pudding, am I?

SPEAKER_02 31:17

Unless your taste buds are weak.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Mind you, there are some cakes that they specifically make them to look like something else, don't they? Like hamburgers or something. And when you cut into it, it's actually a jam sponge. Have you ever had a cake like that?

SPEAKER_02 31:33

No.

SPEAKER_03 31:34

I I have once, and it's it it's quite extraordinary how lifelike they are just to look at them. But then your brain friend plays tricks on you, because if you are picking up something that looks like a hamburger, but it's actually, you know, a fruitcake or something inside, it just the brain doesn't like that. Assuming that you have the brain to you know make such decisions, observations about things. Yes. Okay, so I'm going in again. I am here. We are.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

So gosh, you what do you think, by the way?

SPEAKER_03 32:03

Well well, I'm I I'm I'm still formulating.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

Ah, so that means you like it a lot. Because normally when we do a taste test after the first initial taste, you give an answer, but this I I know you're just devouring it.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

No, no, I'm I'm I do apologize, TikTokers, because all right, because I I know that as we're busy chattering and and eating, we're missing messages on here. Carla says, You're so funny, Richard. See? Carla says I'm funny, not you. But funny is better than sweet, surely. You see what happens, he insults he's worse than Caroline sometimes, yes. Oh, now look, here's someone else called or Salim is saying, Is that your son? This question comes up again and again. I mean, you can hardly tell us apart, can you? No, no, Salim. No, this is not my son. This is my friend Mark Cameron, who co-presents the podcast with me, A Jolly Good Natter over Coffee and Biscuits, of which there are now quite a number of episodes. All the early ones are um audios only, but we started doing videos like this one. Um so uh please go and check it out. YouTube, a jolly goodnatter over coffee and biscuits, and we will love you forever if you will subscribe to our channel because that means we can do all sorts of exciting things, like going from audio to video and starting doing it live and all that kind of thing, which is great. And that gives you, the listener, and our loyal TikTok followers, a more enhanced experience. And we like it too, don't we? We do, we do, we do. In fact, we like it as much, almost as much as this red velvet cake. I'm gonna have another piece. Watch this. Right, we we are approaching a moment where we have to give scores for this, aren't we?

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Yes, in the famous night book. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

Well oh now see, now this is what we like. Ray, God bless you, Ray. Ray has just said, I've just subscribed to your podcast and listened to 20 minutes of the Tate Pod. Amazing. Thank you, Ray. That's brilliant. Now, the Tate Pod is the one where we had Tate from the Big Brother House. Remember the Scottish fellow? And he was our special guest, and he got featured on our podcast when he was here visiting me a couple of weeks ago. So brilliant. Thank you so much for doing that. Um, oh now this is interesting. What we were just talking about about cakes that were that you know looked like something else. Connor says, people do that all over TikTok. They make people guess, for example, if it's a phone or a cake. Well, I can tell you for nothing, this is not a phone.

SPEAKER_02 34:37

It's yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 34:39

I mean, this is a phone, this one, I'm talking to you now. There, that's a phone. But there's no chance I'm gonna eat that. Well, unless it was very tasty. Tea's nice too. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

All right.

SPEAKER_03 34:51

So now then, just in case, just in case you decide not to give the velvet cake ten out of ten, don't forget the owners are nearby.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

So don't say two seats away, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

Don't say anything critical. We have to be, we have to be diplomatic. We do.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

No, but it's a good, it's a good cake, it's very good. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 35:16

Right, so do you want to go first? Oh now Ray says, oh Ray, Ray, you can come again. He says, Your friend is a great asset to the podcast. I assume he means you.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Oh, thank you. That is fantastic. There you go. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 35:31

Well, and and he is, I would agree with you. Madeline says, Where are you? Right now, Madeline, thank you for asking. We are in Alistair's American Diner, um, which is uh on the Crystal Palace Triangle on Westow Street. Um, and uh Oz and his mum have very kindly provided us with a fantastic cook breakfast. Alison, why don't I just remove the phone and I'll just turn it around so you can just see what an incredibly good place is. There they are, they're the owners sitting over there. You see? I mean it's a really nice place, and it's one of those places where you need a couple of days to read the menu because it's so massive. Um, and that's where we are. And um, we did extend the invitation to anyone who was nearby who wanted to pop in and say hello. So far, no one has come, not one, not one, I tell you, not one.

SPEAKER_02 36:15

Maybe it's because of the weather. Because this earlier this morning it was very cloudy and it was very, very windy. And a moment it's the same.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

Actually, I like that explanation. I was worried that people might not have come because they were frightened of you or something.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Why'd they be frightened of me though, Richard? That's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 36:31

Well, well, I always am, so I could completely understand it.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

Okay, so I'm writing the because writing scores down as I always do in the notepad. You do. That's why I'm turning away, everybody. Okay. Uh, as on the previous pod with Fabio, we Fabio gave the jelly babies. He had MS jet jelly babies for the first time, just in general, just jelly babies, which me and Richard couldn't even believe.

SPEAKER_03 36:57

Yeah, he's never tried jelly babies ever before in his life. He didn't even know what they were.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

It's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_03 37:02

And his girlfriend was there too, and she didn't know what they were either.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

I know, and she loved it. She she took two. So wait, she took it. Yeah, because you offered this is after the show, by the way. So Richard gave her one, a jelly baby. And give her one.

SPEAKER_03 37:15

I gave her one. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 37:18

This guy out. Do you see what I have to do with? Gave her one of the jobs. Anyway, this this could go back and forth for quite a while. She ate the jelly baby. She said, Can I have another one straight away? So she took the first chew. Yes. She said, Can I have another one?

SPEAKER_03 37:38

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

But why didn't you just say that in the first place? Avoid all this confusion. See, I worry about you, you know. I do. Well, look, there's still half a cake left. Look, look, there's still half a cake. It looks like a whole cake from there, but actually, I shouldn't turn it around and there we go.

SPEAKER_02 37:55

Look at that.

SPEAKER_03 37:56

Look at that. Half of it's gone. We've wolfed it down like the gannets we are.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Um so Fabio gave it a 7.9 for the jelly baby. Oh, right. You gave it a nine, I gave it a 7.23, just to be awkward.

SPEAKER_03 38:08

Oh, right, okay. So so you're setting a context for the scores we're going to give to this one. See, well, I've got to say, I think the ratio of cake to cream on the top is is good.

SPEAKER_02 38:18

It is.

SPEAKER_03 38:19

I call the sprinkly. I'll bet move it here so you can see. Can they see on there as well? Can you see on it? Yeah. See the ratio of the sponge to the cream there, and the and the nice little bit of powdery stuff on the top, the sprinkly bit, all very nice and very appetizing. So I'm gonna give this. I'm gonna give this 8.5.

SPEAKER_01 38:39

It's good.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

8.5. Yes. 8.5. Do you know why I'm not going higher than that? I ought to justify why it's not anymore. Shall I tell you why it's not anymore? Okay. Because I would like it even better if it was just a little bit more moist.

unknown 38:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

I'll do it.

unknown 38:56

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:57

But what's what's your score and what's your thought?

SPEAKER_02 39:00

Well, all the red velvet cakes I've tasted in the past, they've always been of similar texture.

SPEAKER_03 39:06

Oh, yeah, oh yes. Yeah. So are you giving it a full 10 then? No. Oh, okay. Go on, so what? I'll give it a nine. Okay, but why why not the full mark? That's the crucial thing. Shall I cut it up while you're um while you're considering?

SPEAKER_02 39:19

It's quite an easy answer.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

I had to share it with you. I worry about you, you know.

SPEAKER_03 39:28

You see what I have to put out, but you see, you see what I have to put out.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

I'm just saying, would you like to have a whole velvet cake, red velvet cake yourself or share it?

SPEAKER_03 39:37

Well, it depends how big it is, doesn't it? I've seen red cake velvet cakes like this, and I've seen little ones like this. It's in a little one. Well when you know it's a nice cake. Yes. Anyway, Ray says, How long have you been doing the podcast? Well, we started about 40 minutes ago. But I think he might I think he might mean how long have we been doing all the podcasts.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:56

So when did we start? How long ago?

SPEAKER_02 39:59

Well, originally we started before you went into Big Brother.

SPEAKER_03 40:02

Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

If you recall, yes, but we didn't release the first episode until Richard actually went into the Big Brother house itself. Right. Once we got the word editing done, because we pre-recorded about 10 episodes.

SPEAKER_03 40:16

Ah, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

So that was the reason why.

SPEAKER_03 40:19

Now, this is nice. Look, someone has said, I don't know, funny says, was the guy in red? That's me. What's the guy in red on World's Frictest Parents? No, no, I wasn't. Simple answer to that, but uh I didn't realise I'd made such an impression. Uh someone says, Where are you? It looks dark outside. Yes, it sort of does. But what you're seeing there, that's actually the underside of a canopy that spread out over the front of the shop. Yeah, there we go. Um, right, now who else have we got here? Uh oh, come back, come back, come back. It's difficult doing this without knocking the phone down. Right, there we are. So, what have we got now? Um, Steve says, Are you both fans of pie and mesh?

SPEAKER_02 40:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 40:57

Yeah, yes, there you go, there you go, Steve. Straight answer to a straight question.

SPEAKER_02 41:01

We've uh with quite a bit of gravy as well.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

Uh um, oh now, what's that one? I can't quite read it. Tout in verse to oh, put in I can't read it. Anyway, someone says, I love your auras, so chilled and relaxed. Thank you. There you go. Nice, isn't it? Naomi said, Have you ever had chicken palm? Chicken Palmesan, I assume that means. No. You must have. Like like a kind of carbonara type dish, it must have been.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

No, I've not, actually.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

Steve Phillips says, no gravy. Oh no, gravy, you've got to have gravy. Yeah. Um, well, not with the red velvet cake.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

Oh, yeah, that well, of course.

SPEAKER_03 41:38

There's no accounting for taste. Do you know one of the most surprising taste sensations I ever had, shall I tell you? Shall I? Shall I tell you? I'm gonna tell him anyway. I'll tell you as well. I was actually working in Sri Lanka of all places, and the person who was you know chaperoning me around and looking after me, we were in a restaurant one day, and he had some fresh pineapple for his dessert. Freshly cut from the tree.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 42:03

And um, and the pineapple was brought all nicely arranged on the plate. And the first thing he did was he took up the pepper, pepper grinder, went like sprinkled pepper all over it. And I went, pepper on pineapple? And he just looked at me and said, Everyone says that. Don't knock it till you've tried it. So I thought, oh well, okay, why not? I'll try it. So I tried it and it was lovely. Can you believe that? It's a bit like um the the surprise I felt the first time I heard about chili being added to chocolate.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

Because that it kind of makes you think that wouldn't be very good, but when you try it, it's all right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:37

It's the same as some people have pineapple in their pizzas as well. They do, but that that's a divisive thing, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 42:43

Some people, oh look, Farmer Cam is here. Let's see whether we can. There we are. Farmer Cam, are you joining us? Um uh oh, Cameron says pineapples don't grow from trees. Well, all right, the pineapple plant or bush or whatever it is. Cameron, honestly, you being a farmer and everything, I thought you'd know that. I always thought pineapples grew in tins. You get you get them in supermarkets, don't you?

SPEAKER_02 43:13

But don't you ever buy a fresh pineapple and cut it out?

SPEAKER_03 43:15

Well, of course I do. I don't buy stale pineapples. What do you think I do that for? Do I ever buy fresh pineapple, honestly? Um now, 1971. He's been back been before, and he always says to me, Liverpool or Man United, correct answer this time, please. Right? I know the answer to this one. The answer is Liverpool. Do you want to say it? Because I said Man United last time, and he said that's the wrong answer, so it must be the other one. Um, hi Benji, nice to see you. Um, Chloe says, Is this your friend or son? Um, well that's three times some. Well, well, lots of people yeah, the the same questions do tend to come up.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

No, no, no, they're well. Um it's a compliment, you know.

SPEAKER_03 43:53

Yeah, well, why don't you answer it this time while I cut up this bit of cake?

SPEAKER_02 43:57

I'm actually Richard's friend and company. Co-host of a jolly good natured over coffee biscuits.

SPEAKER_03 44:03

Did I tell you? Did I tell you? Right. He's been my friend for must be over two years.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

Thereabouts, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:10

And I've been his friend for almost two weeks. Shut up and have some cake.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

I've cut it up for you because I know you see what I have to deal with. I meet this guy a couple of times a week. This is what I have to deal with.

SPEAKER_03 44:25

Yeah, but I know you love it really. You're not gonna tell me now after all this time, only now that you don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 44:34

So because Caroline was bullying you, you you're you're you're now you're being a bully to me. Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_03 44:43

It probably is, but but I I know you I know you enjoy it secretly. Um right, okay. Uh Zara says, Hi Richard, I love you on Big Brother. Okay, that's very kind of you, thank you. Um oh now this is a good question. Ray says, What did your friend think when you went into the Big Brother house? Well, you've got to answer that one.

SPEAKER_02 45:02

I was actually well I had an inkling that something was gonna happen because Richard did tell me a couple of months, it was about two months prior that you got something big coming up. And I didn't know it was gonna be Big Brother, but when he did say, I've got Big Brother, but it's just it was just a preview thing, isn't it? Where they collector to see how you are as a character.

SPEAKER_03 45:27

Was it that? Well, at first I wasn't allowed to tell anybody.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

But you but no, when you know when you told me before you you actually went on TV, it was about a week before two weeks before. Yeah, yeah. So, yes, so I I I was like, Oh, that's pretty good, and I was quite proud of him because I didn't expect this guy here to actually do big brother of all people.

SPEAKER_03 45:47

Well, neither did I.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

But then when I thought about it, he's written books, he's done um he's performed in front of many people in the audience uh when he's done his music, and he's done yeah. What else have you done? You yeah well, I've I've I've I I've made my own tea. Well, not very good though, because you didn't squeeze the tea bag.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

Oh, that's true, yes. Thanks, Steve Phillips, for mentioning that. Yes, but apart from that, I haven't done too bad now.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

Yeah, I I was yeah, I was I was I was proud of him because it shows that no matter how old you are, um you can do anything. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:25

And no matter how old you are, as I said on the late in life, there's life in the old dog yet, and will be for quite some time.

SPEAKER_02 46:31

He's got a Hawkins thick now.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

I nicked it off him, I nicked it off him, I did. Um joke it, I've joked it. 1971, he of the um Man United or Liverpool question says, How did you become friends? Well, I'm not sure we have. Um oh right, now this is a nice one. Oh, Steve Phillips, okay, gents. You're making me hungry, so I'm off down the pub. Have a lovely day. Steve Phillips, now you've let something slip there. You say we're making you hungry, so you're going to a pub.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

I know.

SPEAKER_03 47:02

Now, if you say you're making me thirsty, yeah, yeah. I think you're just looking for an excuse, aren't you, Steve Phillips?

SPEAKER_01 47:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:08

Yeah. Now just make sure you're over 18 and don't have anything with alcohol in it.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 47:13

Um uh Ray says, was he tuned? I'm assuming this is you again. Was he tuned into Big Brother every night? Yeah, were you? Did you watch your friend on TV every night, or did you just, you know, stare at the ceiling or something?

SPEAKER_02 47:24

I was not. Not every night, no. I could. Now you tell me. No, not every night. I went through all that and he wasn't even watching. Fortunately, I did have other things to do because I've got two uh daughters to look after.

SPEAKER_03 47:38

Oh, the odd daughter excuse. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

So I couldn't.

SPEAKER_03 47:41

You see, I worry about him, I do constantly. I do, I do. Um, there we are. Who else have we got? Um uh oh, Isabella is saying, see now that the com the comments are starting to sort of morph across now. They began with, I love seeing you on big brother. And now Isabella is saying, Love seeing you with your friend, Richard. Oh, thank you. That's very kind of you. There we are. You see, so you must be doing something right. Thank you. There we are.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

You in this phone. Beg your pardon? I said you and this phone, you keep what what when Richard is going to the comments, he's he's touching other buttons on the screen and it's bringing up other notifications.

SPEAKER_03 48:16

Uh Vicky says, Are you always at beat?

SPEAKER_02 48:19

We can always have that beat.

SPEAKER_03 48:20

We are, except when we're not. Um uh and oh Ray says, Okay, that's fine. That means about the fact that you didn't watch all the time, but did he at least vote for you to win? Ah, I it was it was now we get to it.

SPEAKER_02 48:37

You know, I it was such a hectic time, I can't actually remember because I had to go to the final of the late in live. Yeah, there's a couple of times when because with Big Brother, if Richard gets uh but for eviction, the Big Brother cast members, well cast members, the the housemates, yeah, housemates, um, their family and friends have to go to the late in life. Sometimes we don't get called up. So we were sitting in the background, made waiting from maybe six o'clock till eleven o'clock until it's over.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

So there is a lot sitting around, isn't there? Believe it or not, there was a lot sitting around in the Big Brother house as well, which of course was never shown. Um and that wasn't our fault. That they they'd they'd make an announcement and they'd say, you know, big this is Big Brother. Will all the housemates gather at the sofas? So we'd all sit there and then we just sit there in silence for ages, waiting for something to happen.

SPEAKER_02 49:26

I think that's great.

SPEAKER_03 49:27

And then the voice would come on and say, Good morning, housemates. Today we're going to and then go, sorry, I'll do that again. Good morning, housemates. Today we're gonna do a task, you see. And and so it was all then edited. So it looked like it ran very smoothly, but it didn't always. So there you go. Um Simon is waving from Tamworth. Hi, Simon.

SPEAKER_02 49:45

Oh, right. So okay, so we're just gonna finish off now. And yeah, so everybody have a good weekend and a good week, and we'll speak to soon. So be nice to each other.

SPEAKER_03 49:55

Indeed. Please be nice to each other. Thanks for joining us. Look forward to seeing you on the next uh scintillating episode of a Jolly Good Natter over coffee and biscuits. Please subscribe to the channel. We will love you forever, and so will he. Um, in the meantime, don't cry because it's over. Smile because it's happened.