Ep. 64: Columbine Part 1: Inside the Deadliest School Shooting in America

On April 20th, 1999, what began as a normal Tuesday morning at Columbine High School became one of the deadliest school shootings in American history.

But before the first shots were fired… there were warning signs.

In Part One of this multi-part series, we explore the months leading up to the Columbine massacre including the journals, threats, homemade explosives, Basement Tapes, failed cafeteria bombs, and the terrifying moments when students first realized something was horribly wrong.

Through immersive narration, real audio, and survivor-focused storytelling, we step back into the final normal moments before Columbine changed America forever.

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Beneath the ordinary world lies a veil, and behind it the voices of the lost still whisper.

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See you at lunch. For most people, it was just another sentence. Something you say without thinking twice.

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But on April 20th, 1999, some students at Columbine High School would never make it to lunch.

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That morning, the hallways were full of voices, kids laughing, talking about problems, complaining about class, making plans for after school.

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And none of them knew they were living their last normal moments of their lives.

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Because somewhere inside the school, two students were already waiting for the right time to begin.

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1119 a.m. The first shots echo through the brain. And Columbine High School will never feel normal again. This is episode 64.

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Columbine Part 1.

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So if you have a story you've never been able to explain, please send it to us on our socials or email us at Vale of Echoes Podcast at gmail.com. For years, people have tried to understand Columbine.

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But what caused it? Who Eric Harris and Dylan Clayball really were?

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And whether there were warning signs that should have stopped it before it ever began.

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But before Columbine became a headline, before helicopters circled the school, and before the names were broadcast across television, it was just another Tuesday morning. And before the first shots were fired, there were already signs that something terrible was coming. And some of them were written down long before April 20th, 1999 ever arrived. Eric Harris had been writing online about violence for years. On a private website, he posted about vandalism, building explosives, and his hatred towards certain classmates. At one point, he wrote, All I want to do is kill and injure as many of you as I can. And someone saw it. A parent reported the website to the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office. Investigators were drafted a search warrant for the Harris home. But it was never approved. Of course not. Yeah. Um, I don't know. He he he was uh I don't know, these kids were fucking weird.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

I'm just curious to why it wasn't approved.

SPEAKER_05 5:59

Like again, the justice system, our justice system is bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

I just need to know his reasoning. Like, okay, he might have been underage, but he literally was threatening to kill everybody. He wanted to kill everybody. He's been writing about it for years.

SPEAKER_05 6:17

Yeah. It it says right here, in August 1997, Harris wrote on the blog, All I want to do is kill and injure as many of you as I can, especially a few people like Brooks Brown. Brown was a friend and classmate of his. After Brown's parents viewed the site, they contacted the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office. An investigator drafted an affidavit requesting a search warrant for the Harris household, but it was never submitted to a judge.

SPEAKER_07 6:40

So somebody dropped the ball somewhere. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

Yeah. Sounds like the family knew somebody in the building.

SPEAKER_07 6:48

And whoever dropped the ball, your mom's a hoe.

unknown 6:51

Right.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

That's what's wrong with law enforcement. It's just because it's your family. I mean, you still have to uphold the law. Like if it's your friends, it doesn't matter. You still gotta give that ticket. You still gotta serve that search warrant, and if you so be it, you have to slap the cuffs on that motherfucker, too.

SPEAKER_05 7:06

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

Like that is your job.

SPEAKER_05 7:08

And then it says in um on the blogs also, um uh yeah, Harris showed signs of anger against society. So and by the end of the year, the site contained instructions on how to make explosives, and especially specifically pipe bombs.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

Need instructions for that?

SPEAKER_05 7:26

So he created this private website on America Online, AOL.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

Oh, so he made it himself.

SPEAKER_05 7:33

Initially to host video game levels that he created for the first person shooter games Doom, Doom 2 and Quake.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

Damn.

unknown 7:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

So Doom's old as fuck.

SPEAKER_07 7:44

Yes, it is. It is. I remember playing that on my grandma's computer when I was little. Like, it was that, or there was a game on there that I would hunt dinosaurs. Oh yeah, no, not terract. This was a completely it was like Jurassic something, but it was like one of my favorite games. But it was, I would either play that, or my papa at the time had Doom on the computer, so I would play Doom. And you know, I remember my age I shouldn't have been playing that at my age. I've been evil since I was five, so but my parents were the ones who were like, Yeah, let's get you a PS2 and then get you Call of Duty.

SPEAKER_05 8:20

There you go. And granddad's auto. I thought I played that.

SPEAKER_07 8:24

Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

There's one hunting game we played where you played as the deer and you hunted down hunters, but you walked around with a rifle and that was fucking goofy.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

I would play that one.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

Then I used to play that Captain Crunch game all the time, or it's like some kind of Captain Crunch math game that we got off the serial box. We just used to like fucking ride around and just do jumps to make math problems. That's funny. People are like, why are you so good at math? Because I used to play a lot of math games. That's funny. As long as we're just doing a little bit. Yeah. I played modern warfare or Medal of Honor back on the PS1.

SPEAKER_07 9:00

That was another one big one, was Medal of Honor. I my parents got me the PS2. And the very first game I had was Call of Duty, I think it was the second one, Medal of Honor Vanguard. I remember having that one.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

I'm I played the very first one, and it was only like 1996, and I was like, I had no idea what was going on.

SPEAKER_05 9:21

I played Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Spider-Man. I played them all at mom's Scooby-Doo Cyber Chase game. Cyber Chase, yeah. That was one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

I haven't my own game system until I was 17, but we used to go to Ron's mom's when we'd visit, and I'd play Spyro and everything on there. Stacy, she had one, so we'd play on her PlayStation.

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Which means months before Columbine, someone had already seen pieces of what was coming.

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And the warning signs didn't stop there. In 1998, Harris and Dylan Clayball were arrested. After breaking into a van and stealing electronics and tools, they were placed into a juvenile diversion program, attended agar management classes, and met regularly with counselors. To the people around them, it may have looked like two teenagers getting into trouble. But privately the violence was growing.

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And inside those journals, they wrote about death, bombs, hatred, and mass murder. Eric Harris wrote about explosives constantly. Testing them, building them, and perfecting them. Yeah, I read that, um again, just weird fucking kids, but uh so they began keep both of them began keeping a personal journal since March of 1997. So about a month before. Uh no, a month I'm sorry, a few years before.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:59

Yeah, a few years before.

SPEAKER_02 11:01

That's why this one said it was months. Months? No, this is ninety-seven. They got killed in April of 99. That was March of 97. Yeah. Jesus, that's what, 26 months? 25 months?

SPEAKER_05 11:14

Yep. And both their journals.

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Damn.

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They later plotted the attack. Harris's plan for an attack included possibly escaping to a foreign country or hijacking an aircraft at Denver International Airport and crashing it into a building in New York City.

SPEAKER_02 11:30

Mind you, this is before GTA. Yeah. This this ain't GTA related, so let's not go there.

SPEAKER_07 11:36

Yeah, can't blame video games for this one. Never.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

No, they probably got the idea for the game off this, so you know what?

SPEAKER_05 11:43

These guys are just fucking nuts.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

They were. I'm glad I mean it sucks that they didn't get justice, but I'm glad they're gone.

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They also made entries in their journals on topics related to sexuality. Claybold expressed shame for his sexual interests, which included bondage and foot fetishes, stating that my humanity has a foot fetish. And bondage, extreme liking. I try to thwart it.

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Not just like normal bondage like BDSM.

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And then Harris described his desire for raping and torturing women in his bedroom. He expressed interest in cannibalism, stating that he would like to dismember a woman with whom he could have animalistic sex with and eat her flesh.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Good God. It's like fucking Albert Bundy right there.

unknown 12:29

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

Al Bundy, there we go.

SPEAKER_05 12:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

Sorry, Peggy, your husband's a murderer.

SPEAKER_05 12:36

Yeah, he's fucked up. And then it says their schoolwork displayed themes of violence. In December of 1997, Harris wrote a paper on school shootings titled Guns in School in a poem from the perspective of a bullet.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

So if he wrote about school shootings then, this was the first mass school shooting, I'm guessing, because Well, this is what's fucked up. He was already writing about it.

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Claybold wrote a story about a man killing students which worried his teacher so much that she alerted his parents. When Claybold was confronted about it, he said it was just a story. For one project, Harris wrote a paper on Nazi Germany, and Claybold wrote a paper on Charles Manson. In a psychology class, it just gets worse and worse. In psychology, Harris wrote that he dreamed of going on a shooting spree with Claybold. Harris's journals describe several experimental pop bomb detonations.

SPEAKER_07 13:34

So they're having all of these fucking signs and that's why this shoot is taken the way it is nowadays.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Yeah, that's why you got fucking detectors and security guards at your schools now in big cities and shit.

SPEAKER_07 13:47

Well, not only that, but you've got people that I mean that will make threats online and now you've got the FBI showing up at your house. Oh yeah. Like people don't understand this shit is not it's not taken lightly anymore.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

I remember we went to violence and some kid brought his BB gun, just his hand BB gun. All black, you know, they pulled us over, brought the cops in, pulled that little kid. Kid was in second grade, I think I was in fourth, fifth or sixth.

SPEAKER_07 14:14

He was like, well, his mom was a drug addict that bought from my parents, so there was just a kid um at Hillsboro that took a gun to school with him at Hillsborough.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

They 3D print them now, too. So I mean that's another another kid just got in trouble and arrested because he was selling 3D printed guns to other students. Like you guys are not gonna stop this. You're making things worse. You're making it easier for these types of people.

SPEAKER_07 14:38

I want gun control, but you're not gonna get full-on gun control. No one like that.

SPEAKER_05 14:44

Or they'll make these blue. Luigi.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

Luigi did it. That's how he killed the fucking president of the health. Luigi Manji. Yeah, he 3D printed his gun and went and shot that guy. That's why it didn't get detected when he walked through the detectors, because every single piece was plastic. I don't know how he packed all this fucking shit into the shelter or whatever. He is he wasn't, well, poor. I wouldn't say he was pretty a few classes above us, but I don't know anything about that life.

unknown 15:09

Oh, I thought it was.

SPEAKER_07 15:10

I mean I haven't really looked much up on him.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

I thought it had something to do with like his mother and stuff too. Like she was sick.

SPEAKER_07 15:16

She yeah, because um Which I mean, understandable, but bro, come on. He went after the guy because her treatments were getting denied by the insurance companies, which I don't I I personally It was starting to cost his yacht money. Personally, I don't blame him because I understand it because of being a diabetic myself, and I, you know, have witnessed how much my insulin fluctuates.

SPEAKER_05 15:38

It's like he wanted an outlet on it.

SPEAKER_07 15:40

And he did. And I mean, killing somebody, no, we shouldn't do that. No. Let the I mean, our justice system really inspired.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Well that's the issue, is that's a guy who's making a lot of money paying those people, so they're gonna turn a blind eye to all that. Yeah. Look what happened to the black dahlia. She ended up in a town full of rich fucking weirdos, and every single one of them had a connection to each other. So I don't deny it was I think it was every single one that was blamed.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 16:09

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

Who's the one that actually pulled the trigger or did the I don't know, but I think they're all part of it.

SPEAKER_05 16:16

So it also says nearly a year before the massacre, Dylan wrote a message in Eric's 1998 yearbook saying, Killing enemies, blowing up stuff, killing cops. My Wrath for January's incident will be godlike. Not to mention a revenge in the Commons. And then um, the Commons was slaying for the school cafeteria.

SPEAKER_02 16:37

Yeah, the common area.

SPEAKER_05 16:38

That's just fucking I mean, Hogwarts is like where they sleep, but I know, but it's just they were showing all these f signs.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

I that's just the unfortunate part, and nobody wanted to be their parents.

SPEAKER_05 16:49

And the parents didn't. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:51

It is now.

SPEAKER_05 16:52

I'm sorry, I don't know. I hope I oh my god, I couldn't imagine being those parents.

SPEAKER_07 16:55

The amount of parents though that don't take this stuff seriously boggles my mind. If your kid is writing this kind of shit, you need to take that into serious consideration.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

If I would have said anything like that by living with my stepmom and dad, then they would have shipped me off to some fucking boarding school, Catholic school.

SPEAKER_07 17:16

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

They wouldn't even have fucking second guessed it. I would have got my ass beat and I would have got shipped out.

SPEAKER_07 17:21

If I would have said something like that, my parents would have been like, alright, mental institution right now. It's just fucked up. You're going fucked up. Like, you're nope, we're not gonna we're not gonna tolerate this kind of crap.

SPEAKER_03 17:33

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 17:34

And Columbine was that was like the first, like leg I mean, I'm sure there was there was other paths, you know, but this is like the first like mainstream like shooting, right? America.

SPEAKER_07 17:45

I think so. America.

SPEAKER_05 17:47

Um, that was like televised and everything, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 17:50

Um actually, the first recorded school shooting in US history occurred on July 26, 1764.

SPEAKER_05 17:59

I knew there was past ones, but I this one I think is like the one that it really put it.

SPEAKER_07 18:05

Yeah. Yes. This one says during Pontiac's Rebellion when Leopee warriors killed teacher Enoch Brown and nine or ten children in Pennsylvania.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

Was that Indians?

SPEAKER_07 18:19

Um the earliest known school shooting took place near present-day Greencastle, Pennsylvania, amid Pontiac Rebellion, a Native American uprising against British colonial expansion following the French and Indian War.

SPEAKER_02 18:34

So is that more of a school shooting or is that just bystanders of war? Because I mean there's a war.

SPEAKER_07 18:39

It was in a school, it was a teacher and his it was a teacher and his students. What's off?

SPEAKER_02 18:44

His teacher and students showed up people?

SPEAKER_07 18:46

People are just always fucking. No. Somebody killed the teacher and the kids in the school. The kids?

unknown 18:54

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_06 18:55

How old were these kids?

SPEAKER_02 18:57

Um 17, 10. That might have been K through 12 kind of deal. You know, they probably have one left.

SPEAKER_07 19:02

Yeah, it doesn't say it says kind of like the old one up here. Yeah. Four Leope warriors entered the schoolhouse and attacked the teacher, Enoch Brown, and his students. Brown was killed, and reports indicate that nine or ten children were also killed. With only two or three surviving. That's awful. One of whom had been partially scalped.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

W So yeah, that's like, yeah, it was a school shooting, but it seems like it was war.

SPEAKER_07 19:30

But still, that's fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

So yeah, the Indians got in there and did their work.

SPEAKER_07 19:35

The first child perpetrated school shooting.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

I don't agree with any of it, but the whites started that bullshit.

SPEAKER_07 19:43

Oh, I know. So the first child perpetrated school shooting occurred on November 2nd, 1853. Thirteen-year-old Matthew Ward shot and killed his schoolmaster, Mr. Butler, in Louisville, Kentucky. After Butler had punished Ward's brother, Ward was acquitted despite the fatal shooting. Hmm. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 20:05

Um another it was just the teacher he killed that one.

SPEAKER_07 20:08

Another notable early incident occurred on February 23rd, 1853, at Auburn Elementary School in New Hampshire, where Charles William Woodworth fatally shot teacher Marlia Wilcox before taking his own life.

SPEAKER_05 20:21

So it was it seemed like it was more so the teachers. But those children, those poor children.

SPEAKER_07 20:31

And now it seems like nowadays it's either like now we get bullying people who are getting bullied and you know isolate themselves. And you know, I I was kind of like that in school myself. I was a very quiet person, didn't hang out with a lot of people. Yeah. Because of bullies. And I I get it.

SPEAKER_05 20:53

And Dylan Claybold wrote about loneliness, isolation, self-hatred. But over time, those writings became darker too.

SPEAKER_07 21:03

And that's part of what still unsettles people about Columbine. Because when you look back now, it feels like tragedy was already leaking out long before the shooting ever happened. And journal entries, in school assignments, and videos. Like pieces of something terrible slowly servicing. While everyone around them was still trying to live normally.

SPEAKER_05 21:30

But then again, it was not just one occurrence. It was multiple occurrences they were writing about these fucking shootings. Twenty-and still didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Two school years worth of writings. Fucking teachers, but it could have been prevented.

SPEAKER_05 21:44

This is something that could have been prevented. People didn't take it serious. That's why this shit is taken as serious as it is now. Those fuckers should have been taken somewhere. They should have been put somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

It could have been, yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 21:56

They should have put these fuckers away somewhere. Or just shot them on site. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

Well they were shot on site, but just by themselves.

SPEAKER_05 22:03

Yeah, pussies. Of course.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

At school, teachers had already seen violent themes in some of their work. Harris once wrote a paper about school shootings. Claybold wrote a story about a man killing students. Disturbing enough that a teacher contacted his parents. And nearly a year before the massacre, Claybolt signed Harris's yearbook with the words Killing enemies. Blowing up stuff. Killing cops.

SPEAKER_07 22:41

I mean the teacher at least con did something. At least they had some form of a conscience.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

Yeah, and the parents were probably like, oh, he does this all the time.

SPEAKER_05 22:52

Well you guys are just as guilty, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Yeah, who you ran? Norman Bates?

SPEAKER_05 22:56

What the fuck? Together, they weren't just fantasizing anymore. They were preparing pipe bombs, propane tanks, sawed off shotguns, a Tech 9 handgun, hundreds of rounds of ammunition. Investigators would later determine they had constructed nearly 100 explosive devices. And while students at Columbine were studying for finals, planning prom, and talking about graduation, Eric Harris and Dylan Claybold were filming themselves in a basement talking about how they wanted to be remembered.

SPEAKER_07 23:39

And knowing that now makes the normal moments feel haunting. Because while parents were saying goodbye to their kids that morning, they had no idea that some of those goodbyes would become the last words that they ever spoke to them.

SPEAKER_05 24:00

By April of 1999, the plan had already been building for more than a year. And hidden inside journals, videotapes, and homemade bombs was the outline of one of the deadliest school attacks in American history. Yeah, so um I also read here um that Okay. So that was the name of their tapes. The remaining three tapes detailed their plans and reasons for the massacre, including the ways they hid their weapons and deceived their parents. Most were filmed in the Harris family basement and are known as the basement tapes. Thirty minutes before the attack, they made a final video saying goodbye and apologizing to their friends and families. Stop apologizing, you fucking bitches. But if you listen to it, they don't even sound they sound excited.

SPEAKER_02 25:10

It's fucked up. I know this is random, but I was looking it up because curiosity got the best of me. And next April 20th is a Tuesday.

SPEAKER_05 25:20

That's weird. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 25:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

But then 28 years.

SPEAKER_05 25:31

Yeah. Yeah, that's creepy. In December 1999, before anyone besides investigators had seen these tapes, Time magazine published an article on these tapes. Victims' family members threatened to sue Jefferson County. As a result, select victim families and journalists were allowed to view them, though the tapes were then withheld from the public and in 2011 destroyed for fear of inspiring future massacres. That is not I mean, I'm sorry. It's never gonna stop. It's not gonna stop.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

Yeah, it's you did you can I know it's all in good intentions, but you can't stop violence.

SPEAKER_05 26:16

Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

You can only meet it.

SPEAKER_05 26:19

Gosh, it's just fucked up. But um in economics class, Eric's Aries, I meant to say Eric Harris. It also says in economics class, Eric made an ad for a business. He and Dylan made a video called Hitmen for Hire on December 8th, 1998, which was released in February 2004. It depicts them as part of the trench coat mafia, a clique in the school who wore black trench coats and opposed jocks. Eric and Dylan themselves were apparently not part of the trench coat mafia, but were friends with some of its members. They wore black trench coats on the day of the massacre, and the Hitman for Fire Hire video seemed a kind of dress rehearsal, showing them walking the halls of the school and shooting bullies outside with fake guns. That's weird. So it's just And then a video was also released showing them doing target practice with the weapons they later used in the massacre. Yeah, they're fucking creepy looking.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

Yeah, that smile right there is like if only you knew what was coming.

SPEAKER_05 27:29

Oh yeah, they're fucking and Dylan's fucking weird looking too. They just I don't know, they give me the creeps. Um, so before the massacre, Eric left a micro cassette labeled Nixon on the kitchen table. On it, he said, It is less than nine hours now. Placing the recording at sometime around 2 30 a.m., he went on to say, People will die because of me, and it will be a day that will be remembered forever.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

My And that was Dylan or Eric.

SPEAKER_05 28:02

I feel like out of the two Dylan was a follower. Yeah, I feel like Eric was well because Eric's.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

Yeah. That one dude was driving the whole thing. Yeah, exactly. Um somebody was leading that pack like B was in Butthead.

SPEAKER_05 28:18

Both dumb, but they're both dumb. Well, if you think about Eric, he fired 120 shots. 121 shots total.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

Because he wanted to do that.

SPEAKER_05 28:27

Dylan fired less than half of it, like 67 shots. So I and then I don't know, Eric has all the I mean, they're both fucking weird, but I feel like Eric was the He was the ringleader.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

There's my demon cat. He's a sweetheart, but he just likes to be loud. Coming through the vents again. Where are you at? Oh the door shut up.

SPEAKER_05 28:47

He has something up. He's carrying something in his mouth, probably.

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Siri's staring at the steps, so sorry Siri, not you.

SPEAKER_05 28:57

Tuesday, April 20th, 1999. The morning started quietly. Students pulled into the parking lot at Columbine High School, just like they had hundreds of times before. Some were late to class, some were sitting outside in the spring air, and some were thinking about lunch. And inside the cafeteria, students filled tables beneath large windows. As the first lunch period approached, nobody noticed anything unusual.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

But by that point, Eric and Dylan had already begun putting the final pieces of their plan into place. Earlier that morning, the two purchased propane tanks from a local gas station. Investigators later determined they had converted the tanks into bombs. And those bombs were not small. 25 gallon pound 25 pound propane tank can take out almost a block.

SPEAKER_05 30:01

Jeez.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

That thing does not play. According to investigators, they were designed to explode inside the cafeteria during the busiest lunch hour.

SPEAKER_07 30:13

Which means the shooting was never supposed to be the main attack. The bombs were.

SPEAKER_05 30:20

Around 1110 that morning, the two walked into the cafeteria carrying duffel bags. Inside those bags were 20-pound propane bombs set on timers. Students sat only feet away from them, completely unaware, talking, laughing, eating lunch. Some of them would walk past those bags without ever realizing how close they came to dying.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

The bombs were set to detonate at approximately 1117 a.m. Investigators later said that if the explosives had functioned correctly, the cafeteria could have collapsed. Potentially killing hundreds of students.

SPEAKER_07 31:06

And that's one of the most horrifying parts of Columbine. Because the version people remember wasn't even the original plan.

SPEAKER_05 31:15

Outside, Eric Harris parked in a junior parking lot. And before the attack began, he ran into someone he knew. A student named Brooks Brown. So the friend of his that his parents who originally Yeah.

unknown 31:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

That online stuff he was saying.

unknown 31:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:37

Brown later said he was surprised to see Harris at school that day. There had been an important test earlier, and Harris rarely missed class. So Brooks asked him why he skipped it, and Harris replied, It doesn't matter anymore.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

Sorry.

SPEAKER_05 31:58

I mean, Chester's like, okay, this is getting too intense. I'm gonna just add my uh palette. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

I don't know, but Brooks is one lucky motherfucker, I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_05 32:12

Oh, I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Then Harris looked at him and said, Brooks, I like you now. Get out of here. Go home.

SPEAKER_05 32:24

Ugh, I just got goosebumps.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

I'm getting better.

SPEAKER_05 32:28

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

He gave me some too, but.

SPEAKER_05 32:30

That poor guy, though.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

All I don't know, this what the f Brooks is lucky he wasn't here for me to pat him on his shoulder when I said go home, because I'm gonna get into it.

SPEAKER_07 32:40

Yeah, that's and at that time, Brooks didn't fully understand what he meant. But later, those words would follow him forever.

SPEAKER_05 32:53

Alright, I got goosebumps against.

SPEAKER_07 32:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

Cause this one, I mean, this is they're all rough, but god, for no apparent reason. Oh, you're getting bullied. Bro, I stand 5'7. I've been bullied my whole life. Get the fuck over yourselves.

SPEAKER_05 33:08

Yep. It's not even that though. These fucks, the sick fucks just hate they were obsessed with death. They just hated people.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

Alright, then do what fucking the lead singer of that one band did. Kill yourself. Don't worry about the other people. Go blow your own fucking brains out. Yeah. Or if you're obsessed with death, murder yourself.

SPEAKER_07 33:25

Do everyone some justice and go find some pedophiles. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 33:29

That. No one's against them.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

Make sure you get the evidence first, though.

SPEAKER_05 33:33

Right. Yeah, you gotta have the evidence. But we aren't condoning people to the ghost. Yeah, no. This is just um.

SPEAKER_07 33:39

But it's just like just like, you know, the the whole animal testing that they still do, like the Ridgelands farms that have just released 1,500 beagles from animal testing. Instead of testing on animals, because you know, if you're gonna make a skincare product, test it on a fucking human first.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

Yeah, because how it's gonna work on humans.

SPEAKER_05 33:58

Those poor animals. Again, I don't want to talk about it. I'm not gonna get no.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

Like, no, monkeys don't look sexy with lipstick.

SPEAKER_07 34:07

Like, I'm sorry, but this type of lab testing for rabbits are small products because you know, um, you know, people have to make themselves look good and all this kind of shit. Start testing that shit on pedophiles, on murderers, on rapists. Do it on them. Good god. Poor Leika. Have you heard of her? Yes, don't even get me started on that one. What is it? Stop it, stop it, stop it.

SPEAKER_02 34:36

Why'd you bring it up?

SPEAKER_05 34:37

Because these people are assholes. They sent this poor dog in space.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

I they did it to a monkey too. I remember.

SPEAKER_05 34:44

I mean, what the fuck? Strap a motherfucking pedophile in that goddamn thing, and then someone who's on death row and fucking shoot him up in the fucking sky. Don't what look at how happy this poor dog Okay, I gotta get off the dog now. We're done.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

We're done with the Yeah, that poor thing's like this is the most comfortable bed I've ever laid in.

SPEAKER_07 35:05

My biggest thing. My three biggest things. Don't touch the animals, don't touch children, and don't touch the elderly. Or the um the seal thing. Oh, this the sea lion, the monk sea lion. This fucking asshole in Hawaii? Hawaii.

SPEAKER_02 35:24

Yeah, I did, and I watched him didn't get his ass whooped by one of the locals.

SPEAKER_07 35:30

I actually just watched another video last night on it.

SPEAKER_05 35:34

So for our listeners who haven't heard.

SPEAKER_07 35:36

The guy is from um, the guy's name is Igor, and he's from Washington State. Um, he said that he travels to Hawaii at least once a month. He decided that he was gonna rich fucking. Yep. He decided that he was gonna throw a rock at an endangered monk seal, which is under, you know, it's protected under federal regulations through Hawaii.

SPEAKER_05 35:59

I don't know why he thought so. Um his stupid ass girlfriend was just standing there. She could have gotten her ass beat too.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Well, the person did, that's why she was standing there.

SPEAKER_07 36:09

She yeah, she kind of just looked around like, huh? The person recording him doing it had told him, What are you doing? You know, you can't do that. And his response was, I don't care, find me, I'm rich. If you're gonna act like that, I'm gonna throw a fucking boulder at your head and make sure it crushes it.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

And I know the guy that beat him up didn't get any, like, he tried to sue him.

SPEAKER_07 36:33

He got a letter of recognition from Hawaii.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

Good. Cause, dude, you know, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_07 36:38

That sea line was just again, mining its own hand. The sea line had the name because it was a community sea lion and its name was Lani, the monk seal.

SPEAKER_05 36:48

And it's like, ew, that poor thing is probably what the fuck? Are you? It had no idea.

SPEAKER_07 36:53

All it was doing was playing with a log. Stop it! That's what it was doing was playing with the log. And this guy's like, I'm gonna disrupt it and be a little bitch about it. And you know what? I'm glad the guy got the shit beaten out of him. I'm glad the guy that got robbed because he deserved it. And you know what? If it would have been me, if I would have been in that situation and caught the dude, I would have been in prison.

SPEAKER_05 37:14

Alright. We need palette cleansers. Since we all love animals, we need our listeners to start sending us pictures of their animals and then we'll start putting them up.

SPEAKER_07 37:23

Start sending us um pictures of your animals' stories. We love to see pictures of animals and tell us their names and the meaning behind their names.

SPEAKER_05 37:33

Let's do it. That'll be fun. That'll be cute. I'm excited. Yeah, send us your send us pictures of your pets now.

SPEAKER_07 37:39

Yes, send us pictures of your fur babies.

SPEAKER_05 37:42

Yep, that's gonna be a new thing we're gonna do. I've we've decided.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Talking about all the animals just reminds me of being over by the brain station. I went to drop the boys off. I was passing the train tracks. I looked over to my right and I saw a fucking woodchuck sniffing a turtle, and the turtle kind of went to snap at it, and then she I was like, what the fuck is going on out here? Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_05 38:03

That's funny. That's cute. Meanwhile, inside the school, the timers kept counting down. 1115, 1116, 1117. Nothing happened.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

The bombs failed to explode. For a moment, the school kept moving normally. Students kept eating lunch, teachers had kept teaching.

SPEAKER_07 38:38

And nobody knew how close they had just come to dying.

SPEAKER_05 38:43

But outside the school, Eric Harris and Dylan Claybold realized their plan was falling apart. And instead of leaving, they chose something else. At 11.19 a.m., the first shots were fired outside Columbine High School. For a few seconds, nobody understood what they were hearing. Outside the west entrance of Columbine High School, students turned toward the sound thinking it was fireworks. A prank. Something stupid. Because school shootings weren't something people expected back then. Not at Columbine.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

Seventeen-year-old Rachel Scott was sitting outside on the grass eating lunch with her friend Richard Costaldo. Without warning, Eric Harris opened fire. Rachel Scott was struck multiple times and killed almost instantly. Costaldo was critically wounded, but survived.

SPEAKER_07 39:56

And that's the moment everything changed. Because after the first shots, the normal Tuesday morning disappeared forever.

SPEAKER_02 40:09

I wasn't even there, had nothing to do with it. It's just heartbreaking. Like, bro.

SPEAKER_05 40:13

I know it's true.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

If you're that hungry for attention, eat your own bullet, bitch.

unknown 40:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

I will you did, but you should have done it sooner. More like 11 o'clock.

SPEAKER_05 40:22

Yeah, um, Rachel was shot four times with a high point nine ninety-five. From a distance of ten to fifteen feet. She sustained a fourth and fatal wound to her left temple. Castaldo was shot eight times in the chest, arm, and abdomen by both Eric and Dylan.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_05 40:43

He fell unconscious to the ground and was left paralyzed below the chest. He survived, but Scott immediately died from a reach. I owned one of these high points. What does it look like? Poor kid, he was he ended up getting paralyzed. I think unfortunately some of these survivors, they I think a few of them took their lives too.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

Yeah, Survivors Guild's no uh sad. Because like why? For what reason?

SPEAKER_05 41:13

Students started running. Some ducked behind cars. Some froze completely. Others still didn't understand what was happening. A group of students near the stairs actually believed the shooters were using paintball guns. Then more shots rung out. And suddenly people were collapsing.

SPEAKER_02 41:36

Daniel Roarbo was shot and killed near the staircase outside the school. Several others were wounded within seconds. Teacher and coach Dave Sanders hearing the gunfire immediately began warning students to get inside and run.

SPEAKER_07 41:56

And while the shooting was happening outside, inside the school, many students still had no idea what was coming towards them.

SPEAKER_05 42:06

In the cafeteria, students continued eating lunch beneath the bombs that had failed to explode. Some heard noises outside, but stayed where they were, and others walked toward the windows to look. Because curiosity feels normal right before fear takes over.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

As Harris continued firing outside, Dylan moved down the staircase toward injured students. At one point, an already wounded student asking for help. According to witnesses, Dylan replied, sure. I'll help you. Then shot him again.

SPEAKER_07 42:50

What a piece of shit. Oh my god, oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 42:54

What was the one I want to know? You said Cassie was based off this one, or was it the other one? Because I could have sworn that it was that guy actually asked him if they believed in God's sake.

SPEAKER_05 43:02

That's when they go into the library.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 43:04

Or doing that's in part two, but yes. I I I think That song hurts every time. Fly Lee. Well, is it called Cassie?

SPEAKER_02 43:10

Yeah, Fly Leaf's Cassie because she was one of the victims. I think she might have been friends with her or something, but I know.

SPEAKER_05 43:15

Like Yep. It's a song honoring Cassie Bernal, a 17-year-old student killed in the 1999 Columbine High School massacre. It highlights the later contested report that she was asked if she believed in God and answered yes, and was killed for her faith, framing her as a Christian martyr who stood by her convictions.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

That's why that song hurts every time I hear it, because she d they did.

SPEAKER_05 43:39

These guys are fucked up. Really? Someone asked me for help? Sure, I'll help you. You fucking did.

SPEAKER_02 43:44

Well, the fly leaf, she also didn't have to lace it, or she didn't have to put that in the song either.

SPEAKER_04 43:49

No.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

Danny pulled the trigger.

SPEAKER_04 43:52

I mean, yeah, but that's what happened. I don't know. These guys kids are february.

SPEAKER_02 43:59

Ever comes. Up to you with a gun and ask you if you believe in something, throat punch that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_07 44:05

And moments like that are what make Columbine feel so difficult to process. Because the violence wasn't distance, it was personal. Close enough to hear breathing. Close enough to hear people begging for help.

SPEAKER_05 44:24

And that's what's fucked up. So I guess they realized, oh, did they think like they brought all these the ammunition guns, but originally their plan was just to blow up the school, right? They would have killed hundreds. They would have killed hundreds.

SPEAKER_01 44:38

They went to plan B, which your mama should have taken.

SPEAKER_05 44:43

Yeah. Yeah. Outside, students were now sprinting across the grass away from the school. Some covered in blood, some dragging injured friends. And inside the hallways, teachers were beginning to realize this was not a prank. These were not fireworks.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

Art teacher Patty Nielsen walked toward the west entrance after hearing the commotion. She believed students were filming a video pulling some kind of stunt. But when the doors opened, gunfire shattered the glass.

SPEAKER_07 45:25

And within seconds, the panic moved inside the school.

SPEAKER_05 45:31

Yeah, apparently origin um she was going to uh walk outside and tell the two students to knock it off, thinking they were either filming a video or pulling a student prank, and then realized. And she I believe she survived. She got um struck by the glass, I think though.

SPEAKER_07 45:53

I had a glass in my foot this morning. Yeah, she survived. Because Luna decided to knock over one of my bottles. Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_05 46:12

Because now the hallways of Combine were no longer filled with students changing classes. They were filled with people trying to survive.

SPEAKER_07 46:21

And even now, more than two decades later, people still ask the same questions.

SPEAKER_02 46:28

With all the warning signs, the journals, the threats, the explosives. Could Columbine have been stopped before April 20th ever happened?

SPEAKER_05 46:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

100%.

SPEAKER_05 46:43

Well, with all these I mean, my personality.

SPEAKER_02 46:46

The first thing happened in what? March 1997. They made one of these first entries or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 46:52

And it wasn't just the first time.

SPEAKER_02 46:53

That's when they both started their journal.

SPEAKER_05 46:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 46:57

Twenty-five months before. Like, they planned this out.

SPEAKER_05 47:00

Like I said, I would have taken these little bastards out of school and fucking put 'em in one of those one school for all the bad kids or whatever. Like the reform school. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

No outcome of this.

SPEAKER_05 47:10

I mean, unfortunately, I don't know if that would have, but it would have prevented this from I mean, who knows, they could have fucking planned some other unfortunate event, but still.

SPEAKER_02 47:20

I mean, the fortunate part is those tanks did not go off.

SPEAKER_05 47:24

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:24

That right there would have instantly killed hundreds of people when that building collapsed because they would have been honest expected. Yeah. Yeah, all those years planning for your stuff to fail.

SPEAKER_05 47:34

Fucking idiots. And that's the question we want you thinking about as we move further into this story. By now, the fear was spreading faster than the facts. Inside Columbine, students were hearing screams in the hallways, running footsteps, glass breaking, but many still didn't fully understand what was happening. Some thought it was a senior prank. Others thought construction equipment had exploded. And some were about to come face to face with the reality of it.

SPEAKER_02 48:08

After the shooting began outside, Eric and Dylan moved toward the west entrance of the school. As they walked, they continued firing. They also threw pipe bombs into hallways and outside onto the grass. Several detonated. Others did not.

SPEAKER_07 48:30

And for the students trapped inside the building, every sound became terrifying. Because nobody knew where the shooters were or where they were going next.

SPEAKER_05 48:43

Yeah, so, um So Eric, before all of this too, um they went into the school, he turned uh he fired seven shots in the direction of five students sitting on the grassy hillside. Um Michael Johnson was hit in the face, leg, and arm, but ran and escaped. Mark Taylor was shot in the chest, arms, and leg, and fell to the ground, where he faked death, and the other three escaped uninjured. Um Dylan fired down the stairs with his shotgun, injuring Nicholas Foss with a graze wound, then walked down the steps toward the cafeteria. He came up to Lance Kirkland, who was already wounded and lying on the ground, weakly clawing for help, and that's we already went through that. But um the So this other kid that he um that was shot, Sean Graves, um, although near fatally injured, um he was he ended up being paralyzed beneath the waist. He crawled into the doorway of the cafeteria's entrance and collapsed. He rubbed his blood on his face and played dead. After shooting um Kirkland, Dylan walked toward the cafeteria door. He then stepped over the injured Sean Graves to enter the cafeteria. Sean remembers Dylan saying, Sorry, dude.

SPEAKER_02 49:52

Fuck the fuck?

SPEAKER_05 49:54

Yeah. Dylan then only briefly entered the cafeteria and did not shoot at the several people still inside. Officials speculated that Dylan went to check on the propane bombs. Eric was still on top of the stairs shooting and severely wounding and partially paralyzing 17-year-old Anne Marie Hotchhalter as she attempted to flee. Dylan came out of the cafeteria and went back up the stairs to join Eric. They each shot at students standing close to a soccer field, but did not hit anyone. They walked toward this west entrance, throwing pipe bombs in several directions, including onto the roof. Only a few of these pipe bombs detonated, and witnesses heard one of them say, This is what we always wanted to do. This is awesome.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

You mean you heard Eric say that?

unknown 50:36

What the fuck? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:38

I don't care what the Dylan was there for the ride. I don't know what he saw in Eric, but Dylan was apologizing to people while he was still killing them. Doesn't seem like somebody that But he was also planning to take his own life, so I don't know why he didn't just fucking shoot Eric. He would have been it would have been a whole different world if he'd be like, you shot and killed your best friends. Like, listen, this dude was about to take all of you out with pipe bombs, fucking propane tanks, shotguns, rifles, like he was coming to kill. I did you guys a favor.

SPEAKER_05 51:13

Inside the cafeteria, students had finally begun realizing something was terribly wrong. Some crawled beneath tables, others ran towards exits, and above them, on the second floor of the school, the library was beginning to fill the students looking for somewhere safe to hide.

SPEAKER_02 51:32

After being injured by shattered glass, teacher Patty Nielsen ran into the library with student Brian Anderson. She immediately warned students to get under the tables and stay down. Then she dialed 911.

SPEAKER_07 52:40

Trying not to cry, trying not to make a sound.

SPEAKER_05 52:47

Some called their parents, some whispered prayers, and some honestly believed if they stayed quiet enough, the shooters might pass them by.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

Meanwhile, teacher Dave Sanders continued helping students escape. Witnesses later said he was directing kids through hallways and warning classrooms to lock their doors. He kept moving students to safety while the gunfire spread deeper into the building.

SPEAKER_07 53:20

And that part of the story often gets lost. Because while fear was taking over the school, there were also teachers and students trying to save each other.

SPEAKER_05 53:32

I think he was the one too. He uh yeah, you see him um in the video. He's running down the cafeteria just like he's putting himself out there, making sure there's no students, like so he could put them to safety. By now, the sounds inside Columbine had changed. No more normal hallway noise. No more classroom chatter, only alarms, sirens outside, running footsteps, and somewhere in the building, gunfire was getting closer. Then students inside the library heard something else. The sound of footsteps coming towards their doors.

SPEAKER_07 54:15

And suddenly everyone hiding beneath those tables realized the shooters were coming inside.

SPEAKER_05 54:24

Okay. I'm glad that's the end of part one, because this is getting too much.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

It is building.

SPEAKER_05 54:32

Jesus. And that is where we're leaving part one.

SPEAKER_02 54:37

A normal Tuesday morning that turned into something that no one inside Columbine High School was prepared for.

SPEAKER_07 54:45

And in the next part of the story, the violence moves into the library.

SPEAKER_05 54:52

A room filled with students hiding beneath tables trying to stay silent. While gunfire echoed closer and closer.

SPEAKER_02 55:01

And for many of them, those next few moments would become the most terrifying moments of their lives.

SPEAKER_07 55:12

If you've been listening with us through this episode, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

And if you want to support Veil of Echoes, one of the biggest ways you can help is by leaving a rating or written review on Apple or Spotify.

SPEAKER_05 55:28

And this Friday, we step away from Columbine and into a story that should not have been possible.

SPEAKER_02 55:36

A young woman was found dead inside her home in West Virginia in 1897.

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But according to her mother, she didn't stay dead.

SPEAKER_05 55:51

The Green Briar Ghost. Until next time, keep your ears open.

SPEAKER_02 55:57

And the veil closed.