Episode 27 - "NICEMAN"

G is back this week and we covered the fall out from Meg thee Stallion and Klay Thompson's break-up. We react to the clip of Jay-Z asking older rappers to stop making young music. There's a conversation about the disconnect between artists and the media that covers them before we listen to some alleged leaks from Drake's upcoming "Iceman" album.

Transcript

SPEAKER_06 0:03

Fellow Americans, it is with the utmost pride and sincerity that I present this recording as a living testament and calculation of history in the making during our generation. Allow me to reintroduce myself.

SPEAKER_05 0:14

My name is The Universe is predicated on the duality of chaos and order. Without these opposites to define each other, it is impossible for life to exist in any dimension. Therefore, you should accept both chaos and order as equally real and necessary.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

Now I'm gonna tell you right now, I'll say this you outside, bro. There's nothing, there's no better feeling than like you watching an elimination game, and your team just handles business early in the freaking game. Like it almost never happens in baseball, but like imagine like you're watching your team in a game in a clinching series, and they just go up like 12-0 in the third. And what's crazy is that in baseball, I think even 12-0 would feel like because baseball's just baseball. Like 12-0 is wild, but in a playoff game, you'd still literally be telling yourself like a lot of game left, like a lot of like yo, still gotta lock in. You know what I mean? But in basketball, a 50-point lead at the half is like, yo, it's clipped.

SPEAKER_13 1:22

Like, yo, nah, C's, nigga. You that's wild, nigga. That's a wild take. Nigga, 12-0 nigga in a baseball game. Hey, it is over. I'm gonna tell you right now, it's over baseball.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

It's over if your team is not the Yankees.

SPEAKER_13 1:37

Yeah, that's that's the other thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

Over if your team is not the Yankees. If you didn't witness 04 as a Yankee fan, then yeah, it's over.

SPEAKER_13 1:44

If it's the Dodgers and the Yankees, nigga, then yeah, there's still a Giants. If it's the Right Sox, it's over. If it's the Mets, nigga, go home.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

It's because when like when one of the things if it's the Mets and it's the playoffs, I think you're happy you got there. With the way that shit is going this year.

SPEAKER_03 1:58

It's because when when one team got 12 runs, nigga, bro. If your team is up by 12, that's when they start putting the worst pitchers in, nigga. The niggas, you don't even know their name, you don't even know why they're on the team.

SPEAKER_02 2:09

No, but I'm saying playoff, playoff clincher and a playoff clincher, whoever's on the roster is normally. They don't put the Uber drivers on the roster in the playoffs. Normally, normally that'd be the shit.

SPEAKER_03 2:20

Yo, that'd be the shit in the regular season. You'll be feeling good, like, oh, it's seven and one, and then they go and bring in some bum you never heard of who loads the bases without recording it out, and then you're just like, bro, what the fuck is going on, bro?

SPEAKER_13 2:34

Like Schindler.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

Shit Schindler is wild, man. Schindler. Schlitler. David Ortiz called him Hitler.

SPEAKER_13 2:42

Nigga, oh, that's a new one, nigga. Crazy, bro. Damn Hitler, nigga. Fuck that. I mean, he he does he does make one hell of a holocaust of the Red Sox every time he pitches a game. Bro, to see it happen twice, nigga. You know what is not? We saw that nigga in the playoffs, bro. Couldn't get one run in. Yeah. Saw him again on the regular season, nigga. Two runs. Nigga. Two runs. You got two runs. Not enough. I hate that kid. It's not enough. But it be yo, I was I was saying it earlier. Like me and baseball, nigga, we have a love-hate relationship. I feel like all these analytics have fucked up the sport in a sense. For me.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 3:26

Like I I like that when baseball was just much more simpler. It's like, like, even talking to my dad, my dad was like, oh, el a veraje, no seal, uh, like the average. I was like, nigga, that shit don't matter no more, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Oh yeah, teams, teams don't look at batting average anymore. It's like, oh, he don't hit home runs.

SPEAKER_13 3:46

I was like, you think these niggas care if you hit a home run nowadays, nigga?

SPEAKER_02 3:49

Home runs they care. Sometimes a good team. No, home runs, home runs, they care.

SPEAKER_13 3:52

They do, but it's not like before, nigga. Like before, like teams were looking for a 30, 40 home run hitter.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Like I still, I still think they prioritize it. I just think what it is is like, okay, average for sure, average you're right. Average, they do not care about batting average anymore. Over batting average, they look at on base percentage. To them, OBP is more important. That tells, and it does, and in all honesty, it tells more of the story, right? Like, because it just tells how many times is this guy getting on base at what clip? Batting average just means how many times in a night bat do they get a hit. Like, they don't care about that.

SPEAKER_13 4:28

I blame Billy Bean. You know what's crazy is that is it Billy Bean or is it? He started it and then everybody just did made it did it better.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

No, I think it's Brad Pitt's fault. Oh, that's just I think it's Brad's Pitt. I think it's Brad Pitt's fault. Honestly, if the movie Moneyball wasn't that good, I don't think I don't think we see what we see. But I think the problem is that Moneyball was so good and Brad Pitt played Billy Bean, and every man, every GM around baseball was like, yo, I want them to make a movie and get Brad Pitt to play me.

SPEAKER_13 5:02

And I just want to say Brad Pitt or Billy Bean, whoever the hell you whatever the hell you want to call yourself. Listen, if you would have just taken the offer from the Red Sox and would have came to the Red Sox, Billy Bean, yes, nigga, you would have been a baseball legend. See, that's how the movie ends, too. It's my favorite part of the movie. Nigga, you would have been a baseball.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

But Theo, shout outs to Theo. Theo's a goat. Theo is a goat. Dombrowski is a goat.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

Y'all know they're making a they're making a sequel of Moneyball. Wait, what? Yeah, they're making a sequel. It's called Don't Know How to Spend Moneyball. Yeah. Starring Brian Cashman. I don't know if it's Brian Cashman or David Stearns. Nah, Brian Cashman. What do you not deserve$25 million?

SPEAKER_02 5:47

You feel like your mic is like physically low or no no no.

SPEAKER_13 5:50

Say I can't hear myself. Maybe it's just me. I could turn it up. No, I can I hear you pretty good. I hear myself, but compared to like now, I feel like I turned it up. Like Mac, I maxed it. Uh huh. Because remember, I I have that. Like my kids, every single time, they're like, it's like it's like every time daddy speaks, he goes, La La.

SPEAKER_03 6:18

Yo, why your kids turn you into a Moana monster? I used to joke around. I used to joke around with my daughter like that. I used to be like, Jenny, Jenny. And so one day she we was in the car and she just responded, Daddy. It was the scariest shit to me. I was like, yo, who said that?

SPEAKER_02 6:34

Why y'all niggas talk to your kids like Optimus Prime?

SPEAKER_13 6:37

Nigga, that's just my voice. Nigga, what was it? Every single like nigga, that shit is that's my cross, nigga. Everybody be like, yo, uh, Jedhard, every time he talks, you say, nigga. It's like, yo, you already sound like you got fucking throat cancer, nigga. It's like, but nigga, this has been me, nigga, since 91, nigga. From the wound, nigga. Rare cadence, nigga. I hear you.

SPEAKER_03 7:06

Oh, is that what that means?

SPEAKER_13 7:07

Uh yeah, nigga.

SPEAKER_11 7:08

I always wonder what that meant.

SPEAKER_03 7:10

I didn't even know who that was. I didn't even know. Because to me, your voice don't sound crazy.

SPEAKER_13 7:16

Like, I guess it's because to me either. And then but people freaking make it seem like because it's rash.

SPEAKER_03 7:22

If anything, it just sounds like deep.

SPEAKER_12 7:25

Like, I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_13 7:26

I'm not gonna lie to you. Because I've heard some fucking voices. Deep is nuts. Let's see if he gets it right. Let's see if he gets it right. Deep army.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

Coming to the stage. Bro, when I think of Francis Lee.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

When I think of raspy, bro, I think of that the fat nigga and you got served, bro. Emerald. Emerald, nigga. Emerald, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 7:51

You won't walk. Let alone dance again.

SPEAKER_03 7:54

I didn't tell you to talk.

SPEAKER_13 7:56

Nigga, that was like Yo, bro.

SPEAKER_03 7:57

When you see somebody giving their all and saying something, and their voice still has no bass, just straight rasp, bro.

SPEAKER_13 8:03

Nigga, that was like uh I was watching Jadakiss. Nigga, uh, oh yeah, Jadakiss's voice is rasp. You know what it is, baby. It's like it is what it is, baby.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Nah, when he when he's rapping, it's like I gotta clear my throat just imitating that nigga.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

That that was like freaking. What you got in your throat? You gotta clear your shit. Hey, yo.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

Nothing, nothing. That's that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

Nah, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 8:33

That's why I played.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

That's why I played the sound.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

That's diabolical.

SPEAKER_11 8:37

Nigga, but you're diabolical.

SPEAKER_13 8:40

Is that nigga? That that that whole shit, nigga, freaking nigga. Jada every time that nigga be with Fat Joe on the pod, nigga, all of a sudden.

SPEAKER_02 8:48

I love that podcast.

SPEAKER_13 8:49

Yo, every time these niggas, nah, Joe, Fat Joe be wild. He be saying something out. I was like, yo, that nigga be trying to tap into his inner Joe.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

But he's I think he's the best podcaster in the game. Nigga, his takes fat Joe is the yo, fat Joe. I think he's the most entertaining podcaster in the game right now, bro.

SPEAKER_13 9:08

I don't know. Cam Cam is also fucking amazing.

SPEAKER_02 9:10

Yeah, Cam is good. Shout out to Cam. I think Fat Joe's better. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_03 9:15

Yo, Fat Joe, his storytelling ability, bro. Who fucks with that? Yeah, but that's the like for me, that's the problem. Like, Cam, I believe a hundred percent, like Cam's persona, I believe a hundred percent that he is that way. And maybe that's just because I used to be a fan of Dipset. Like with Fat Joe, like he tells the most entertaining stories, but half of them, I've just be feeling like nigga, that shit did not happen the way you said it happened. Like, it just seems like he capped. Was you there? No, but it just it just sounds like he be capping. Because if you're not terror squad, then I don't I don't I don't really know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_13 9:52

For me, to Zay's point, it is just one of those things, you know, when you look at people and be like, yo, it's like you don't look like you're really about it. It's like it's not to discredit the niggas. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

Nah, these niggas be calling him Cap Joe and all that shit.

SPEAKER_13 10:06

Like, I get it, but it's like nigga because when you have some nigga like Cap or not, it's entertaining as fuck, bro. Like, I don't know. No, no, 100%. Like anytime you hear Joe.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

Man, a lot of these podcasters be lying.

SPEAKER_13 10:18

Nigga, that was like the other day. Nigga, I've been going nigga on uh like either YouTube or shit like to freaking watch their pod, like Fat Joe and Jada. Joe and Jada, yeah. Nigga, the shit is on Netflix.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

Yeah, they on they got they got the Netflix deal. I was like, God damn. Gloria and Maul too are on Netflix, nigga. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_03 10:34

I didn't know. Yeah, no, a bunch of people signed. Netflix been handing out deals. So everybody's gonna be able to do it. So by the way, guys, we love Netflix. Yeah, no, we gotta all subscribers. You gotta get with the and I'm only using my Netflix on the one TV that was intended.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

You gotta you gotta get with the volume first. I think it's it was all the volume podcasts, I think, that got picked up with the Netflix deal. Um, I think I could be wrong. I might just be talking out my ass, but I could be Cap Joe myself right now. You do be talking out your ass.

SPEAKER_13 11:02

Nah, like Breakfast Club is on there.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

Breakfast got their own deal with them too. Yeah, like it's it's no no Netflix, Netflix made a very heavy investment in the podcast game.

SPEAKER_13 11:13

Shout out to Netflix, man. Yeah, I think I think again, and I'm a big fan of Stranger Things. It's just the beginning.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

It's just the beginning, too. And I think that's why every kind of the conversation we had a little bit last week with like, you know, how many how many different podcasts start every year, and people are like, oh my god, everybody has a podcast, everybody wants to be a podcast. It's like, brother, don't knock it. Like, I I I think I think that if this is something that you can do and if it's an ability that you have that you possess, I don't know why you wouldn't try to join a podcast or start a podcast right now. When you see the amount of money and opportunities that are being opened and created for podcasters, like why wouldn't you throw your hat in the ring? Like this Netflix stuff, this is just the beginning. They are one streaming platform. You think you think Hulu's not you think Hulu's gonna take that sitting down? You think Peacock is gonna take that sitting down? You think Paramount is gonna take that sitting down, nigga? Disney, nigga, it's mad streaming shits out there. They're gonna all start picking up podcasts real soon, bro.

SPEAKER_13 12:10

Like the thing is Disney, Disney's chilling because they got Disney, ESPN, all they got ESPN. So at the end of the day, yeah, no, it's true. You niggas got first takes.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

And Hulu, Hulu's with them. No, it's true. I'm just saying, like, this is not this is not the end all. I'm telling you, of course. There's so much more to come. There's so much more to come. That's why I'm like, yo, this like if you yo, this is like don't knock people who are doing it. Like, I mean, you knock, I don't care. Y'all knock us, honestly, man.

SPEAKER_13 12:35

We're gonna keep doing our thing, but I want to shout out C's because it's like, yo, the content this nigga been putting out, bro, inspired me. And let me figure out how to clip videos, nigga, and post some funny shit and then comment, do some splue kind of shit, nigga. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

I gotta shout out Splu for that, man. He's the one that that uh that pushed me into uh into going to that route. Um but bro, honestly, it's not it's the funny thing is that it's not um it's not an unnatural thing. I mean, at the end of the day, like this is this is kind of what I do anyway. I just wasn't posting it because I was like, ah, you know, like I just got this page for like the baseball and I'ma just post the baseball. And then I was like, actually, nah, I did the you know, I did the pastors and infidels during Lent. Pastors and infidels. I did the pastors and infidels during Lent, and you know, those did well and whatever. I was like, you know what? Nah, bro, like I'm gonna just post whatever I want to post.

SPEAKER_13 13:28

Man, that's crazy. You only did that for Lent. How about Easter? Nigga, the people need to feel he hears some uh uh uh a voice of freaking celebration because the Lord is uh Nah they abandoned, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 13:40

Nah, nah, nah, man.

SPEAKER_03 13:41

I did it.

SPEAKER_13 13:45

I I said I was gonna, you know, I was I committed to it for Lent, but it's like yo, that shit wasn't easy. Ordinary time, my brother. It's not ordinary time, it's extraordinary time right now.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

It's extraordinary time. You gotta keep it pushing, nigga. Nah, brother. I I I committed to that for Lent, but I was like, you know, for I mean, that's that's a big commitment. And I was like, I can't I can't stick to it right now. But I'm not saying I'll never do more content like that.

SPEAKER_13 14:06

It's 50 days, nigga. What's 50 days?

SPEAKER_02 14:08

No, it's a week, it's every week. And no, and those videos were those videos were were tough to cut because they were between 15 and 20 minutes long, and then the editing after would take probably an I mean two, three times that. Uploading it to Instagram wasn't always the fastest. Um it was a lot of work. And then also just that's not even just coming, that's not even just talking about the research beforehand. Like to shoot those videos on Friday, I would I would prepare them starting like the Monday. Like doing the research and like looking up, okay, like let me pull this from the catechism of the Catholic Church, let me get some biblical references and shit like that. I was just I was doing a lot.

SPEAKER_13 14:46

Oh, I thought you were just spitballing, nigga. Oh nah, nah. I was about to say, nigga. Nah, nah. I ain't that good. I ain't that good. I wish. I was like, damn, maybe maybe we should all do some shit like that. Like, we should all pick something and speak about it. Just speak about it. But I was gonna just speak, nigga. I would be up there say, because the Lord, you know, fuck whatever situation you're in.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Which I don't think there's a problem with that. Because that's how we speak at the end of the day, bro. So, like, what I don't see the issue with that.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

That's what I did, nigga, in the great mission, bro. Nigga, I yo, the the second time.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Because Jesus came down to say, fuck those sins. Nah, bro.

SPEAKER_03 15:25

Yo, the second time, because I wasn't expecting to give my experience again, and then niggas ain't show up, so I had to. So I was talking and I didn't know what to say, and I was just like, The Lord doesn't care if you do drugs, the Lord doesn't care if you sell drugs. I used to steal from these stores right on this strip.

SPEAKER_02 15:43

I just thought the store owners came out and said, Oh my god, that did him.

SPEAKER_10 15:47

That did him right there. I didn't remember this. Oh my god, because I caught 911.

SPEAKER_11 15:52

Nah, they under the new man.

SPEAKER_13 15:55

Yo, you almost got clipped in front of your wife, nigga. Yo, this nigga Zay's wild. Nigga, wanted to wild boy.

SPEAKER_03 16:04

Yo, nigga, if y'all listen, if y'all heard that shit, Father Richard was doing, man. You sent you the video, right?

SPEAKER_13 16:10

I just wanted to tell people. You sent me the video, Father Richard was matter of fact, I'm gonna play it right now. I'm about to tell y'all niggas one thing.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

I'm gonna show y'all what Father Richard was on.

SPEAKER_13 16:18

All y'all young niggas talking about.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

It's like the at lib was just diabolical, dog. Mind you, and you had to see it, bro. Because he's literally like, he's there with the microphone, like as Angelo singing, he's like, ooh, that's good.

SPEAKER_13 16:49

And then he's just like, like, it's not it's not screen. Nah, nigga, we've seen that shit. That nigga calls me.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

That nigga calls me. He's like, he's like, why didn't you why you why didn't you come? I was like, oh no, we had something to he's like, yeah, yeah, I had to have to help. I had to jump in. I was like, no, you didn't, nigga. I didn't want to tell him. I didn't want to tell him that I saw the video. I was like, in my head. No. I was like, no, no, you didn't. No, you didn't. You really did it. You wanted to. No, you didn't. And God bless you, because you want, and that's the thing about this time of year, like Easter time, bro. Like, you could tell it's his favorite time, bro. Like, he just he loves this time of year.

SPEAKER_13 17:23

Yeah, he dies when Jesus dies and he resurrects nigga three weeks later. And then ordinary time comes back and he back, he be back on his bullshit. I just want to say one thing, not related to what we're speaking about, but all y'all young niggas, bro, all y'all YN's talking about, oh, Marty Supreme, that's peak movie. Marty Supreme, the Marty Supreme. I'm gonna reserve my thoughts because I haven't finished it. But from what I've seen so far, that movie straight caca. So far. I've freaking, I've this is my I have to how much how much of it do you see? Uh hour and a half. After he found out that the the chick really didn't get beat up and she just had makeup on on his face. It's like it's about an hour and maybe 40, 50 minutes. I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

Oh I'm just trying to see like how far into the movie.

SPEAKER_13 18:25

I thought you saw it. My fault. I just gave a spoiler.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

No, no, I'm good. I'm good, I'm good. Uh I'll watch it, I'll catch up. Um I guess it's on my list for sure.

SPEAKER_13 18:33

It's the thing is that there were certain niggas comparing it to like uh one battle after another, the shit with Leo. It's like, and comparing it to like Sinners, like different people have given me different opinions and compared it to those movies, and it's like And okay, and I get the comparison, but here's the I'll say this is it their fault for comparing it or Hollywood in general, because Hollywood was pitting that movie against those movies. Well, it was Hollywood. It was Hollywood, but they also But the thing was, it's like at the end of the day, freaking the Oscar won two sinners. It's like big facts, it's like sinners. Michael B. Jordan did his thing, God bless. It's like, yo, that move sinners, and I tell people it wasn't just about yes, it's about black culture, but it was just about the influence that just culture in general has on freaking uh uh I I would say America as because I don't want to generalize it also to just white people, yeah. It's like it's just the the influence because there's that one scene when I forgot that nigga's name, when that dude is singing, he's like and that nigga killing it, and it's like I don't even know the song.

SPEAKER_11 19:56

I want you to take me.

SPEAKER_13 19:58

Yeah, that nigga started by and then the fucking shit started fucking going on fire. Oh yeah, nah, nah. But the thing is they show break dancing, they show this, they show that, and then all of a sudden, and then all of a sudden, Jackie Chan comes out of no.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

It's like, bro, like what is that?

SPEAKER_13 20:12

And I was saying, I was like, yo, there's two Asian, there's an Asian couple, and that shit is not, they weren't just added because at the end of the day it was No, no, no. It's like it all has it connects, it connects. It's like there was just so much. Now, my issue with Marty Supreme is there's a lot of biopics out there. Yeah. I really don't know who this Marty Supreme is. I don't know if he's related to the whole Supreme movement. I don't know what the fuck this guy is.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Here, here's what I'll say. I think, I think, I think Marty Supreme is for ping pong fans. No, I just think the hype is manufactured is what it is. Timothy Chalamet, Timothy Chalamet is being forced as the next it guy in Hollywood. Like they're trying to make him into that next dude. So everything that he's doing, whether it be Dune or whether it be Marty Supreme or whether it be sitting courtside at the Knicks games with Kylie Jenner, whatever it is, every move that his team and you know himself are putting together is to turn him into the next big thing in Hollywood. Like he's not here to play games, he's not here to, he's not gonna do a superhero movie like Tom Holland and then just like you know, find himself a baddie and ride off into the sunset. Like you could tell just by the look on this kid's face and the drive, like he's going for Brad Pitt, Leonardo. Like he's he he wants to get to that level. Now he has a long way to go, but he's good. From what I've seen, I'll tell you, from what I've seen, I think I think he's made a good start.

SPEAKER_13 21:40

I feel I think he's made one hell of a start. I saw some shit say that they were they were comparing him to Johnny Depp. That they were saying that Johnny Depp was so versatile, he could do like anything.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

I heard I heard the Johnny Depp comparisons. Here's what I will say I think the Johnny Depp comparisons are a little bit unfair um to Timothy. I I just Don't think we've seen enough from him to be putting that on him. I I saw some people go as far as Leo. They're like, Well, you remember Leo started with what's eating Gilbert Gravener? I'm like, bro, what are we talking about? Leo DiCarpio is one of the greatest of a generation. Like, can we can we stop? Can we stop? Again, and this is the again, and I hate that like this podcast. We always become like we always like devolve into like the podcast that attacks the younger generation. But this is one thing that this it's a characteristic of this generation that really irks me is that they have this obsession with just putting whatever comes from their generation above whatever came before it. Immediately, though. Like it doesn't matter what the resume is, but they don't care. They're like, nah, it's better because we say it's better. It's like, who are you though? Like, bro, the other day they were talking about uh they was like, oh, you I don't know if you guys realize, but uh Gen Zers are saying that Air Force Ones are old nigga shoes. Who cares what they think? I don't care. I don't care. Listen, do I own a pair of Air Force Ones right now, currently? No, I don't. But when I saw that shit, it made me want to go out and buy two pairs.

SPEAKER_11 23:05

Oh, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

Wait, what you talking about, old nigga shoes? Can y'all can y'all make the shoe an old nigga price then? Because they're not selling them shits like old nigga shoes. Like, that's my thing. It's like saying something is what it is. Just because you say it is doesn't make it that. And that's what I'm saying. Like with Timothy Chalamet, it's like, look, his resume thus far speaks for itself. I think, I think in terms of up-and-coming actors of the newer generation, he's right up there with anybody. But to start doing the Johnny Depp and the DiCaprio and the that that's that's a lot. That's a lot. You're putting a lot of dip on that kid's chip, and uh, yo, let's see. Hollywood is a weird freaking place, bro. We thought Jonathan Majors was gonna be the next remember? We thought, I mean, everybody's oh Jonathan, yo, he's out of here, bro. He got kanged, that's it. He did the creed movie with Michael B. Jordan.

SPEAKER_13 23:51

That white girl. And then, yeah, stop messing with that.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Now, I mean, granted, you know, Jonathan Majors is uh is a black guy, and Timothy Chalamet is a white guy.

SPEAKER_13 23:59

But and like I uh there's one thing I gotta say to all them black kings out there. Stop messing with these white women. Oh, okay. Stop. You can't do it. You gotta stop. Black queens only.

SPEAKER_03 24:14

That might be fair. I mean, because there's literally video of Jonathan Majors. Thomas, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_10 24:21

Like, we're not gonna let you can't let he can't say that. What's wrong with it? And then you just keep going.

SPEAKER_03 24:27

That's a fact, though.

SPEAKER_10 24:28

What are you talking about? He's American, bro.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

Listen. Rebecca's black? Listen, listen. Any any any country that Bad Bunny shouted out in the Super Bowl is it'd be hilarious if Rebecca texted me after this came out and said, What's up, my nigga? It's not, it can't be straight white. It's funny. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 24:47

My whitest kid is the one that says nigga. Oh my god. She's gonna have a hard life.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

He says she's gonna have to have trouble when she's gonna be one of us. But my dad is black. You gotta tell, you gotta teach her how to sing that song. That's it. Once that people be like, hey, you can't say that, she's gonna bust. I want you to take me. They're gonna be like, you can say it, you can say it.

SPEAKER_12 25:07

You can say it. You good, you good. Rebecca got an honorary black card, bro. She got black in her.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

And that that's not a that wasn't an AO play. That was just a play of like, that's a lot of information. That's a lot, a lot of information given.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

Nigga, the funniest shit is I was gonna say that, but I'm like, nah, that is crazy for me to say. So I would never say that. And if I want you to take me, no, but to his point, bro, nigga, Jonathan Major was literally on video running full speed away from this woman.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

Somehow, like yo, it's not funny.

SPEAKER_13 25:54

Somehow the narrative was he beat the shit out of the way.

SPEAKER_06 25:58

He's literally running away from her.

SPEAKER_13 26:00

That's why I'm saying it's like, listen, I love my white woman. It's like it's like love my white. But it's like, nigga, when my wife got mad, nigga. Them white people who niggas be dangerous. They be trying to freaking hurt you. Not like emotionally, nigga. It's like physically. It's like, oh my god. And then the thing is, you gotta think about it, bro. You but nigga, imagine nigga. There was one time, bro, my wife threw a plate at me, nigga, and I was bandaged up. I remember you came to the you came to the show that that week. Nigga, my arm nigga was jacked up. Now imagine nigga if I would have thrown the plate black, uh black back.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

Yo, it would have been a dub. Check this. I wanted to, I don't know, we've been vibing for a little bit. I was like, let me let me throw something, let me throw something in here before we before we just end up having a whole because what are we 30? Or let's say 20. Oh, it's 26. I thought we was already, yeah. It felt like it was, we was going for long.

SPEAKER_13 26:59

We could have we could officially start it off.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

Yeah, we only been, I figured, no, no, because I want to I wanna before I forget about this, I was like, I want to say this shit. Um, I want to play this shit. So obviously, I saw the the news. Everybody who's listening to this probably saw the news about Meg De Stalin and Clay Thompson uh uh breaking up. Uh there was a content creator, I believe, from the UK, judging by this stupid ass accent. I'm not gonna lie to you, bro. Let me tell you, the UK accent is is one of those accents, right? This could eat it could either be the sexiest thing you hear on a person or the dumbest thing.

SPEAKER_03 27:32

Like it either makes you sound nothing sexy about the accent so yeah, no, it is go deeper, bruv.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

Go deeper, bruv. No, no. Daddy, Daddy. Bro, bro, trust me right now. You you you trying to tell me Adele, Adele don't sound sexy to you? Not as you said, we could go bum for buns. Adele don't sound like that. What about Leona Lewis? Who? I don't know who the fuck that is, nigga. Alright, I'm just gonna play the clip. Y'all pissing me off.

SPEAKER_07 28:04

Daddy before Meg the Stallion. We didn't know Stefan Diggs before Cardi B. Didn't know.

SPEAKER_10 28:10

Alright, I'm on before Meg the Can we Can I play the shit?

SPEAKER_13 28:16

Me, I only heard the part of Clay. I didn't know she started off with Stefan Diggs.

SPEAKER_04 28:21

Bro, lost me, man.

SPEAKER_13 28:23

Okay, I'm gonna play the clip.

SPEAKER_07 28:24

We didn't know Clay Thompson before Meg the Stallion. We didn't know Stefan Diggs before Cardi B. Three time NBA champion. Money, then these guys before. These girls have social and global influence. Meg the Stallion made Clay a global star, whether he wants to admit or not. These men like to use these women for come up and for social status because social currency is still a currency. If you are well known in your society and you are well respected, guys can use that for social comma because being with you makes him look good. You need to be very, very careful because guys are users just like girls. I would even say more. A guy knows when he has a woman that he can use to make himself look better. And I think sometimes the insecurity that we have in ourselves together.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Okay, I'm gonna stop her right there because she brought up the question that I have from the clip. My question is do you gentlemen think that Klay Thompson used Meg the Stallion to make himself look better?

SPEAKER_13 29:26

Like the UK legend, the GOAT said one time we could go bum for bun. Nigga, we look at money-wise, nigga, like status wise, nigga. Bro, Meg the Stallion, bro, I get it, she's famous. She's she is, yeah. She's she's known. But nigga, Klay Thompson, bro, whether you know him or not, yes, there's a lot of rooms that Meg the like if you go, I I don't want to sound racist, but nigga, it's like you go to the black people, black people know who Klay Thompson is. Anywhere in the US, and you know enough about just sports in general, not even sports, it's like you know who Klay Thompson is. It's like just like niggas know who Devin Booker is, and he's not even freaking out for like at Klay Thompson's level. It's like it's like, but niggas know it's like these niggas are superstars. These motherfuckers are multi-millionaires.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

She said about money, so I did I want I want to, you know, we're gonna be responsible. I did the research here. Uh the net worth comparison, these are estimates uh via 2026. Meg DeStallion is worth about 40 million right now, which is a lot of money. She's worth 40 million dollars. You guys want to take a guess at how much Klay Thompson is worth?

SPEAKER_12 30:48

I can't guess because I looked it up too.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

140 million dollars, he's worth he's worth a hundred M's more than this lady. Like, what is she talking about?

SPEAKER_13 31:01

Because I I get if you say, if you say, for example, like ASAP Rocky and Rihanna. Not that ASAP Rocky, that's like that's what he's trying to do. See, now that's funny, because ASAP is probably worth a couple mil and Rihanna is up a billy. Because the thing is, like, ASAP, I feel like you only know ASAP if you're tapped into the fashion world and if you know hip-hop. It's like and you gotta like no hip-hop, no hip-hop. It's like, but then after that, like you wouldn't know, like As much as I would have liked ASAP to be more mainstream, it ain't really happened like that. It's like, and I love ASAP. ASAP freaking still bumped to his music. Hell yeah. But the thing is, it's last album was really good. I enjoyed it. Like that to me makes sense. But Klay Thompson, Stephon Diggs, and Cardi B? Like, are you freaking serious?

SPEAKER_02 31:47

So we didn't know who Stefan Diggs were. No, no, no. Ma, you didn't know who Stefan Diggs was. That nigga been in my parlays. Like, what are you talking about? You didn't know who Stephon was. You know how many I've been putting that motherfucker in parlays since he was on the Vikings, baby. What are you talking about? You didn't know you didn't know him. We knew him.

SPEAKER_03 32:06

That nigga been selling my fantasy team for years.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

Yeah, you know how many times I drafted that motherfucker? He's talking about I don't know who that boy. I know who that boy is. But that's the thing.

SPEAKER_13 32:14

And I love Cardi B. You get me to talk about Cardi. I love Cardi. And that'd be the thing I be telling people. It's like sometimes niggas jump on a mic and just start capping and talking out their ass, nigga, without actually doing the research. It's like there's been a lot of times I don't hear. Like you just mentioned Sierra Sierra Leone. I don't know whoever the fuck that is. Leona Lewis.

SPEAKER_02 32:37

Oh he just called Leona Lewis Sierra Leone.

SPEAKER_13 32:40

I don't know who that is, but it's gonna play. Go ahead. I'm gonna play her song real quick. And watch me know who the fuck she is. You're gonna know the song immediately.

SPEAKER_03 32:46

But the thing is, it's like oh Kanye.

SPEAKER_13 32:51

Nah, but the thing is, it's like nigga, I'm not gonna be up here like, oh yes, he's her. It's like she's an amazing actress. Oh shit. Really?

SPEAKER_11 33:06

Keep dreaming. Keep keep dreaming.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

It's keep bleeding love. I heard dreaming. Keep bleeding love. Keep bleeding, bruv. Which doesn't help my accent, my accent thing. But yeah, I think she is she she uh she's nasty with it. And she has one of the most sexy accents in the world.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

So to give the benefit of the doubt, do we think that maybe this woman thinks like is speaking in the sense of women don't know who Klay Thompson is generally?

SPEAKER_02 33:34

She said social currency, so I don't I don't think it just but that's the thing. I think she's speaking from the perspective of women, but social currency doesn't involve only women.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

But so like where do men factor in in that, right? Because when like when I think of social currency, I think of like just like gossip and like blogs and shit like that.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

And women are typically the demographic for that, you know, like they're the bigger demographic, but they're they're not the only demographic.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

Like men, we know who Klay Thompson is because we all follow, we all follow sports, but like But okay, who drives who do you think drives social currency?

SPEAKER_02 34:08

And you're saying it, but I want to clarify. I think women. Women and gay men.

SPEAKER_11 34:13

Oh yeah, true.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Women and gay men drive social currency. Alright? What are women and gay men attracted to? Men. So how the f so how are we gonna say that these people are nothing and they don't mean anything when it's like, but the people that drive that currency are attracted to this. Yeah.

unknown 34:33

True.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

You know what I'm saying? So you're sitting there saying, oh no, we didn't know who Clay Thompson was. So you mean to tell me that that there weren't women out there attracted to Klay Thompson when he was winning chips with the Orion? There weren't women. You know how many baby moms Stephon had before he met Cardi?

SPEAKER_13 34:48

Well, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

That's what I'm saying. These are bad points, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_13 34:54

Stefan Diggs' brother, you don't even know that nigga's name, bro, because that's how big Stefan Diggs is. Trayvon, yeah, not Trayvon Diggs. He's uh he's a decent cornerback. But the thing is, it's like for the cowgirls. That's that's why I wanted to move it away from even just the fact that it was a woman saying it. It's like it's just the fact that people go on a mic and just to put content out, just say whatever the fuck they want, and it's like make it seem as if it's like word of God. It's like, bro, no, it's okay not to fucking indulge in a conversation you don't know. Or if you're gonna freaking talk about it, be like, hey, I felt like this guy used her or whatever, but use certain terminology that shows that it's more of an opinion than an actual fact. Because the way that she presented that shit was like, yo, he is a nobody.

SPEAKER_03 35:44

And that shit just goes, bro, and that shit just goes to show that she really didn't like even before like we got into the talk, first thing I did when she said when I heard that recording was look up their net worth before I even talk shit. Cause I'm like, maybe I got Meg's net worth fucked up and maybe he is using her. But I'm like, bro, this woman clearly did not do her research if she's trying to make it seem like Clay is using her to become more relevant or whatever. Because if you know who the fuck Clay Thompson is, you know who he is because of basketball. This nigga is not out here wowing, like, I don't even know if he has an Instagram. He don't be on Instagram live, like he doesn't he has one, like the most and he went live after they broke up the most that on a yacht, on a yacht, he was on a boat, he was on a boat, but still, yeah. But I'm saying, like, the most that he's ever like wanted to be seen was when he was winning those trips with Golden State where everybody was doing that, but like outside of that, you don't really see him doing shit for attention, which is kind of what she's trying to make it seem like he's doing. Like, he's messing with her so that he looks better and gets that like some type of notoriety. But Clay to me, but even before he got where it seems like the opposite of a nigga that wants no notoriety, like, and even when he was with her, when she was she would be posting him and recording all this shit, like he didn't even seem comfortable. Like the thing just with all this shit like happening, like he didn't, yeah, he didn't want to be on the community.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Like he really seems like just like a low-key nigga. Like, it didn't seem like he wanted to be on social media and shit like that with her. Like, he it didn't seem like that's the type of time he was on, and yeah, I think that's really where the point comes from. I think for her, I just think she's approaching it wrong. Like, yeah, say like, okay, we didn't see Klay Thompson all over social media before he was with Meg, and it's like, yeah, that would be correct. But also understand that you didn't see him by design, he didn't want to be on social media, he didn't want to be out there in this, you know, as a socialite or whatever. That's not he's a basketball player, he doesn't need he doesn't need to do that to make money. Meg DeStallion does, Cardi B does, Nicki Minaj does, Drake does. Like these people, this is the line of work that they're in. Social currency is, she said, let's not forget, social currency is a currency after all. Well, yes, my love, love. Of course it is. But not for every 140 million of real. That's what I'm saying. It is and it is and it isn't. It is for who it is. Like for these rappers, pop stars. Yeah, hell yeah. Taylor Swift, you go to Taylor Swift and tell Taylor Swift that social currency ain't currently she made her empire off of social currency. Ariana Grande makes it off a social. These people understand that game. But that's why athlete money is so different.

SPEAKER_13 38:25

And that was what I was gonna say, also. It's like I didn't look at the net worth. But the thing is, just with the knowledge that you have of what artists go through and how they get paid, and how athletes get paid, that's enough information for you to know. It's like Klay Thompson is making over$30 million a fucking year.

SPEAKER_02 38:44

This is like they take rappers. This is why, when rappers be losing their girls, they lose them to the athletes. It's like that's how it works. Offset was tight. Why? Because he lost her to a football player. Offset is a millionaire. He's got money, but he don't got football player money, he don't got athlete money. That's what it's about. These athletes are up.

SPEAKER_03 39:06

That's why you just gotta get better at blackjack.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

That's another reason why. That's another reason why a lot of people get upset with guys like Drake because Drake is one of the few rappers that is out there that actually can walk and you can't do that to him. There ain't no athlete walking earth that could be like, nah, like I got way more money than him. It's like if listen, the bit the athletes that are up the most are up like in the billions. Drake is right there with them. But Drake is few and far between. Nigga, most rappers do not have that money. So that's what I'm talking about. Meg DeStallion, it's not to shit on her 40 million. Yo, 40 M's is 40 freaking M's. That's that's mad money. Like, she's good. Especially, family is good, everybody's good. Well, you see, now you took it. I'm a savage. You took it to another place. How you gonna say she don't have to say, how you gonna say she don't got actual tie? Have you seen her? Have you seen her knees? I don't think she can.

SPEAKER_03 40:05

Have you seen her knees? She got the strongest knees in the game. Listen, she has a heavy history.

SPEAKER_13 40:08

Would you consider her she's in the top 10 female rappers?

SPEAKER_02 40:14

If Derek Rose had her knees, how many more MVPs does he win? Exactly.

SPEAKER_13 40:19

Three or four. Exactly. Exactly. My thing is just that.

SPEAKER_03 40:23

It's like, bro, she might even be top 10 all time. What?

SPEAKER_13 40:27

Top 10 all-time female rappers?

SPEAKER_03 40:29

Nah.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

Nah, nah, she's decent.

SPEAKER_08 40:33

She's decent, but like a lot.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

I think Lotto is better than her. Even like current rappers today, I think I like Lotto better than her. I like Glorilla's music better than her music. Glorilla's nice.

SPEAKER_03 40:42

Yeah. Fuck no, bro. Y'all think they better than Meg?

SPEAKER_02 40:46

Rap it? Ice Spice is better than Meg. Lotto. Lotto and Glow, yes. Lotto and Glow. Ice Spice is better than Meg. I'm gonna say Ice Spice. Cardi nigga is better than Lop. I think Lotto's a better rappers. Lotto, Lotto's, Lotto got some verses that Cardi's a better rapper. Meg don't got verses like that.

SPEAKER_13 41:05

Think about WAP.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

I don't know, bro. It's just an accent that's just.

SPEAKER_13 41:08

Think about WAP. Who made WAP famous? Was it her or was it Cardi?

SPEAKER_03 41:12

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_13 41:13

I crossed that video on mute. Cardi. Nah, nigga, you think about the lyrics.

SPEAKER_03 41:18

Every time it's like uh uh uh Oh no, Cardi got her wiped down like four times over.

SPEAKER_13 41:22

Yeah, Cardi went nuts and happens.

SPEAKER_03 41:25

She said a bunch of shit that I just read right now in the female rap game, it's Cardi and then everybody else.

SPEAKER_13 41:31

Mac truck writing design.

SPEAKER_03 41:32

Nicki until Nicki Minaj decides to make music again. But it's Cardi and everybody else. And I think the gap is very good.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

Nikki, Nikki's the Nikki's the one though. When Nikki puts her pen to paper and decides that she's gonna kill all these, she does. Yeah. I wanted to I want to see what y'all think about this Jay-Z clip too that I saw.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

Tell people all the time never fight against the future. Future's coming. Artists, they were trying to recreate something that was already done. But they're not connected to it like that. They're not living it and breathing it. They were fighting against gravity as opposed to telling their story. We needed that other side. We needed to hear about what happens when you've had four successful albums. What happens? What is that feeling like? How do you make the next one? How did you get in the studio? How are your kids? Like, what how do you interact with them as this hip-hop dad? But if you're trying to make young music and you're not, you know, you're not young, it's gonna be inauthentic, and people can feel that. You can smell it. So the best thing that anyone can do, like going through music, is to tell their story and and and just keep creating from that space. I love what the clips are doing right now and how it's authentic to them, and they're telling the story about their mom and dad who just passed away and how deep that is, with John Legend singing on the chorus and like, you know, everything that they've been through. Them birds don't sing.

SPEAKER_13 43:01

That's my motherfucking goat, nigga. Birds don't sing. God damn, bro.

SPEAKER_02 43:05

So you you agree you agree with these points? Yes. Okay. Well, you don't?

SPEAKER_03 43:10

That definitely don't.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

Hell no. I think I think he no, I so I don't know. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Uh all right, so why don't you why do you disagree? Because I agree, I agree, and disagree.

SPEAKER_03 43:23

So I I agree that that method works. He's not wrong. I don't yeah, that that method works for some people. I just don't like when people like Jay-Z kind of say what they did and what they did really fucking well, and they say it like that's the recipe for success for everyone else. Like if I just say, Yo, bro, I didn't go to fucking high school, nigga. I went and I went to trade school and I built the I built the whole fucking job, and now I have a company, now I have employees, and whatever. And it's just like, and I say it like that's some shit you're supposed to do. Because it worked out beautifully for me. Like he's saying that, like, oh, you know, let's like he got older in this game. The clips definitely got older in this game, and they kind of aged gracefully, and he's able to like rap, like in 444, rap about the mistakes that he's made, like you know, talk about being a dad and shit like that. But nigga, you can't it might not sound like that for a fucking little baby. Look at future, bro. Future is in his 40s. Does anybody want to hear future rap about being a dad? Nobody wants to hear future rap about being a dad. That's not what you want to hear, that's not what you listen to Future for. My shit is like, yeah, he's been very successful at it, and the clips have been very successful.

SPEAKER_02 44:42

Wait, hold on, hold on. We say that. We say that. Jay-Z made one album where he did that. But I feel like that's he did it one time with 444. And I respect nigga. I love 444. I love that album, but like we say it like he like he's dropped four albums like that.

SPEAKER_13 45:00

So wait, I'm out. Because if that's what he's trying to imply, then I misunderstood it.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

No, so I think here here's the issue, too. It's and my issue is is I'll say this. It's not so much with what he's saying, it's more so how it's being perceived, and that's not his fault.

SPEAKER_11 45:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

Because my issue really stems from the fact that people heard this clip and was like, yo, he's subbing Drake. He's subbing Drake. And I'm like, he's subbing Drake because people think say, oh, Drake is the is the is the one that people say, like, oh, Drake's an older nigga. He's in his he's just he's in his high late 30s. Yeah. Um, right, because Drake is in his late 30s. Yeah. Yeah, he's 30, 39. Yeah, so he's like, Drake is in his late 30s and he still makes like young nigga music and shit like that. My argument is like, so y'all just don't listen to Drake then? Because everything that Jay-Z said in that clip, Drake has done. Drake has every album he tells us what it was like to make the album. Every album he tells us what it's like dealing with the amount of success that he has. Every album since he has the kid, he mentions the kid. Every album he's talking about, like he has these fucking songs. And when he talks about it, what do people say? Oh, there he goes being emotional again. There he goes crying again on the songs. Oh my god, all Drake does is cry on the song. So then he stops crying on songs for a little bit. He starts making some slaps and some bops and some shits that the kids like. And now y'all saying he doesn't make that music?

SPEAKER_13 46:18

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 46:19

My thing I would only say is this, because even even with the Drake shit, like now with C C it actually makes some like to shoot Jay Bale, he actually did it. It it is more about the way it's been perceived than what he actually said. Because yeah, based on the thing.

SPEAKER_02 46:35

But what he said, Drake's name, and I think if you asked him, if you asked him, like, oh, like, but you mean like Drake? I I don't I think I think Jay would be like, nah, like Drake is introspective. Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 46:47

I was gonna say whether whether he believes whether he actually believes that or not is only he would know my biggest thing is that I feel like he's trying to speak about like getting old in hip hop as aging gracefully, yeah, as it as if like it's a one-size fit all. Like every rapper that that gets older has to do these certain things. And I feel like he felt like he had to do that because you know, when he first came out, you know, he was rapping about being a drug dealer and shit, so cracked to his mom, all that crazy shit. So I feel like at a certain extent, like to a certain point, he probably got to a point in his career where it's just like, all right, bro, like you gotta bring this like full circle. Like, how does this end up for you? You know what I'm saying? Like, talk about like you married the the biggest one of like the biggest pop stars in the world, like you're a dad now. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, his like it was beautiful when he did it. Like, 444 is crazy, but what I'm saying is amazing, bro. Like, not everyone can like live in that space the way he lives, and that let's be honest, not every rap out there, the majority of rappers don't have the talent to make a 444. Like I said, future tries to do that, bro. He would not sell, I don't even think, 50,000 albums. Don't know because he don't have the range for that. That's what I'm saying. Like, you can't speak about that, like if that's some shit like everybody should do. Even the clips and the clips made their last album was amazing, but look what it took to get to that point. They're not dropping, they're not dropping uh let God sort them out every two years, they're not dropping some shit of that quality every two years, although they've been talented for as long as we can remember, but even then it's not so easy like to just do that. Like he says that as Jay-Z, as one of the greatest, one of the greatest of all time. The clips are like one of the greatest hip-hop groups of all time. But it's like, bro, the average dude in the game right now cannot do that. Like, he's I feel like he says it too like too easy because it's what's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 48:41

Yeah, too too nonchalant, too cavalierly.

SPEAKER_03 48:43

Like, if LeBron is like, yeah, like I don't know why niggas is not getting 30, 10, and 10. Like, bro, like you're like that's what makes you you the fact that you can do that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 48:55

I have a very hard time understanding things on the first day. I had to listen to shit multiple times, but the one thing that I do remember him saying was like he mentioned the clips, and what is it, the song uh Birds Don't Single. It's like he mentioned one song. I guess to Cito's point, like people comparing it, saying it like to saying that he's taking shots at Drake, like technically, Drake has spoken about the process of getting to an album. It not technically, he has. Because also, because I feel like we can't also like focus it on 444 because uh what's it called? The clips album wasn't all about their mom and dad.

SPEAKER_02 49:38

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_13 49:38

The whole album, it was one song, one song, yeah. And it's like he I feel like he's just trying to tell like the these newer rappers, because I feel like that's the thing. A lot of these rappers aren't telling a story, they're just fucking going out there and spitting random shit, and then at the end of the day, you're not really getting like he, I guess it's almost like yo, if you want your shit to last the testament of time, it's like do something memorable almost. It's like something that because at the end of the day, if we do just talk about just whole projects where he, like, yeah, there's the 444, but you also have uh Mr. Morale and Big Steppers, you also have freaking for her eyes only. Uh, it's like all of those albums, like, and it's like those albums in time, maybe right. Like, I know uh uh Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers, that shit. A lot of people try to like say that shit was trash. But the thing is, to me, uh for uh for your eyes only, what I didn't like it on the first listen. But the more I listened to it, the more I heard it, well it's like same thing with 444. I did not like that shit and Mr. Morale, like all that shit, because that's not the kind of shit I like to listen to. But the thing is when you actually sit down and listen to what the fuck they're saying, these those are amazing albums. But the thing is, like I want to that that's why I said he mentioned uh uh the song by the clips, which was he only mentioned one song. That the fact that they told a story on that one song, and it was like I felt like that's what he's trying to portray. It's like yo, you could yeah, you could drop whatever fucking song or whatever, but also give us a song on that album that also tells a story. Because a lot of these niggas, like Nate, like the all these rappers that are out now, like look at Lil Baby. Lil Baby was popping for a hot minute. Where's Lil Baby now? Freaking uh uh Young Thug. It's like Young Thug was popping for a long ass time. They could get arrested, all that shit. Where's Young Thug now? Fetty Wap was also, it's like all these rappers, it's like they have good music, music that became mainstream, and it's like it's out there and people will enjoy. But it's like when you compare it to act that like uh rap songs that have set us, like I'm I'm looking right now at Watch the Throne, the fucking cover right there. So it's like yo, and I was I was telling, I was talking to somebody recently. It's like, bro, there's a story being told in every single one of those songs. It doesn't need to be deep, it doesn't need to be, but it's like, yo, even if yo, you could brag about the money you said it earlier, like yo, I I married, I married, I got this, I got that. You know how many times Jay-Z fucking uses was it uh uh on what's free, nigga. When Jay-Z jumped on there, nigga, it's like uh uh he was just fucking spitting talking about it's like uh uh what is it? Was it that song that he talks about how many billionaires has he made? Or was it the one with Khaled? The the song um with Wayne Khaled.

SPEAKER_02 52:27

What's what's the one who he's like he's like Dane made millions, yeah made millions. Beans will tell you if he wasn't in civilians. That's that's him and Drake. Yeah, that's pound cake.

SPEAKER_03 52:38

Yeah, no, no, no, but there's another one. Well, G is talking about some shit on off Khaled's album. I know he's talking about.

SPEAKER_13 52:42

Yeah, he goes, he goes, uh how many billionaires have I made? Three, and he's a big one.

SPEAKER_03 52:45

No, the Khaled, the Cal the Khaled one is Bron's a rock boy, so five technically, I think is the last thing.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

No, no, he's he's that's that's the one with him and Wayne. What's that? Yeah, yeah, that's the one that's that they that they performed at the table at the at that award show. I can't remember the Grammys, wasn't it? I don't know if it was the Grammys. I felt like that was like a BET thing.

SPEAKER_13 53:04

I feel like that nigga will not show up to a BET.

SPEAKER_02 53:07

But what is uh no, yeah, you're right. It probably was the Grammys. It had to be something bigger. Um that that wasn't what's free, though. No, it wasn't what's free.

SPEAKER_13 53:16

That's Meek. Uh that's that was Cornel. That's just gonna kill me.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

Yeah, that's that's killing me right now that I can't think of the name of that freaking song. Because that was Jay-Z's best verse that time. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 53:26

He took like a whole three minutes, man. Wayne went nuts on that shit. That song was long as shit.

SPEAKER_02 53:30

Rick Ross is on there too. And listen to that new Chris Breezy, bro. Yeah, that new Chris Brown and Leon Thomas. That shit goes crazy. Um shit. Can yeah, y'all gotta come up with that name because that shit's it's gonna fuck me up.

SPEAKER_13 53:45

Of course, I look it up. God did. God did. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 53:49

And then the name is that easy to remember, bro. Yeah, we can't know again. We are cooked.

SPEAKER_13 53:55

You can't remember. God did. That's that's my thought on there. I feel like he's just referring to it.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

Because that's the one he's like, Hove did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 54:03

It's like I feel like people are always gonna fucking want to run a story and run a night, but it's like just listening to him say, like, like, yeah, I know he mentioned like, oh, making four albums, and then like what was the process? Oh, but it's like, like I said, like every time I listen to one of Drake's timestamp, that nigga is telling a fuck. Like, Drake tells a story every fucking time, even if he's capping. It's like that nigga is telling a story.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

I'm telling you, look, just listen to his. I feel like listen to the Drake. Listen to Drake's outros, man. Like, there's always like you want to hear, okay, like what was the process making this album? What was the emotions? Where were you at mentally? What were you going through? Like, I feel like it always comes out. If it doesn't come out in the intro, if it doesn't come out in the course of the album, it's gonna be in that outro. He's gonna get shit off in that outro, he's gonna tell you stories about whatever, and it's like, bro, he's he's listening the intro is one of the things that we make the most about. We always tell there's always debates on like yo, what's the best intro to an album, whatever. I think one of the Drake's underrated talents is how he closes albums. I think he's very good at closing an album. Like, I mean, there's there's what D D. There's this there's I mean, he's got some and that's that's the shit like outros, bro.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

I feel like even even with Drake, like he don't he don't get that credit because like as a like as a rapper, like a lot of niggas lit, like they listen to the like this of Rolly Not a stop, while shit don't never stop. And they think that all the shit that he puts out is just like surface. So like that, yeah. Yeah, like surface level, but like one thing I always point out is like, bro, even in like the rap beefs he's been in, like the angles that he takes, like, like if you actually like listen to the lyrics, like the nigga is actually saying something that's deeper. Like, it's not just like even with Kendrick, niggas is like, ah, he's calling him short. I'm like, bro, if you listen to the fucking music, the nigga is basically saying, like, bro, you're not even a real fucking activist, and your fans think that you're this like pro-black nigga. Now, whether it's true or not, whatever, or even like with the push a tee shit. Like, he's basically saying, like, bro, you're trying to clown me for like ghostwriting, nigga. The nigga who signed you and gave you an opportunity, I wrote for him, nigga. Yeah. And then the shit, I was just listening to this shit today, the shit with fucking Kid Cuddy, nigga. Like, that shit cut so deep, nigga. Niggas was like, yo, bro, like, you stay zan and perked up, so when yeah, when reality set in, you don't gotta face it. Like, and this nigga was really going through like drug addiction. Yeah, yeah. Which is crazy, but like, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, bro, like that nigga actually like will rap and say some shit in his raps, but it's just like because he's also the guy that makes the party music, the hit records.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

Because he also made Nikki, yeah, like niggas forget that he had introspective deal.

SPEAKER_03 56:51

And what's that like Tussi slide? Like, because he makes those like fun songs, like people just don't. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

I guess they just versatility I think, yeah. No, his versatility, his versatility is a gift and a curse. It's a gift because it allows him to find success in all these different avenues, but I think it's a curse because depending on what you pay attention to, you may not and I'm not saying, and again, this is why I don't know. Like, I I don't believe that Jay-Z is was taking a shot at Drake. I just feel like the fans who are taking that and running with it as if it's some kind of shot to Drake is like, then y'all clearly don't know, like, y'all don't know Drake. Maybe you don't know Jay-Z well enough to know that Jay-Z would never make a statement like that because he knows too much about music to make a statement like that. Like, again, I think people forget, like, yo, we're talking about Jay Fucking Z. Like, bro, he knows hip hop, he knows music. Like, he's not gonna say something like that. I think it's directing the proximity.

SPEAKER_03 57:47

Like, I feel like it's just the proximity because like obviously.

SPEAKER_02 57:50

Well, I think people know the beef, and that's what it is.

SPEAKER_03 57:52

They're like, yeah, like they and then they can like you know, there's the underlying beef that has been there, whether and the JG Drake stuff or whatever, but if you've if you've been paying attention, you know that they've haven't always been friendly. But then there's also the proximity until they weren't. Yeah, like then there's a proximity of him saying this not to be after he said the shit about like Kendrick and the Super Bowl, and like, yeah, and he was talking about like, oh, there's a narrative saying, like basically saying that I'm like, you know, against Drake or something, and it's like, oh, I'm Jay-Z, and it's just like, which again, he could say, like, bro, I'm I'm just you know, big enough myself in that moment, but like if you're a fucking hardcore Drake fan or whatever, you're you're probably taking that as like, oh, you saying you too, like, you too big to you know, side against Drake or some shit. Because a lot of people don't think that he is. And now personally, I I really I believe him when he said that. Like, bro, I feel like Kendrick was having a great year. Because Kendrick was having a great year, and you know, I yeah, I wholeheartedly look like that. And not for nothing, nigga, Drake has turned down the Super Bowl a bunch of times, so it's just like it it can't, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 59:00

It's like what do you want him to do? I feel I feel like the two things can be true and not have much to do with each other. I think that there might be a slight level of animosity between Jay-Z and Drake, but I don't believe that that had anything to do with Jay-Z tapping Kendrick Lamar for the Super Bowl. I think I think that was legit what he said. Like, yo, he was having the biggest year in music. It made all the sense in the world to put him on that stage. Like, I don't care. Like, I like the whole the blowback of what oh, how is Drake gonna take that or whatever? Like, that don't got shit, that don't got nothing to do with me. I'm not in it. That's between them. Like, yo, yeah, y'all hash that shit out. But I got a job to do in booking the biggest show of the year, essentially, for artists. And he was the right, he was the right move. I don't think anybody argued with that in the moment. Like, I did see some Drake fans, like, you know, real upset about like, oh my god. But it's like, yo, who didn't see that coming? But are they fans or are they stands? It's like it's like Yeah, well, I mean, that at that point is stands, uh it's more stands than fans, because I bro, I saw, I mean, the last couple of Super Bowls, especially the last two, like, it was the most obvious. Like, I knew it was gonna be Kendrick, I knew it was gonna be Benito. Like, like I'm telling, but like knew it, knew it in my heart, in my soul. The same way I'm saying that Bruno is getting the next one, like, solo job. Like, I'm like, I just feel like it is, I don't know, like really you think so? I think Bruno's getting it solo, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:32

I feel like the album didn't hit. Maybe I gotta listen to it more.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:34

Well, yeah, yes, I was gonna say it's not um maybe numbers-wise and stuff like that, but I don't I don't know that the tour has started yet. I think once the tour starts and you start seeing the videos of the tour and the shows and everything, it'll start to pick up more. Well, see, you remember it they they always announced the Super Bowl performer like early in the season. Yeah. So we we're literally a couple months away from knowing who's it gonna be. I I really feel like it's gonna be I feel like it's gonna, I feel like it's gonna be him. Because the only to me, the only other option is an option that they're not gonna go to. Who Chris Brown?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:11

Oh I think I think they might go with Bieber.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:14

Let me see. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

They could, they could. Bieber's Bieber Bieber had uh he had a nice and beaver. He had a nice nostalgic moment at uh at Coachella, and his fan base is huge. I mean and and I feel like remember Taylor, Taylor, Taylor's still, Taylor Swift is still out there.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:32

Yeah, she's but I think she keeps she keeps turning it down though.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:36

Yeah, but she's gonna do it. Like it's gonna, it's gonna, it's one of those things like she's there.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:40

I I'm sticking with she wants to do it, like she'll do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:42

I'm sticking with Bruno right now, but um let's we'll see. I'm sticking, I'm sticking with Bruno for now at all. And let me tell you when it was like it was an idea, but when it was really, really that I was like, oh no, it has to be. When he wasn't there for Bad Bunnies, and he's on that song, and he has Spanish roots. Oh yeah, I was like, that gotta there's gotta be some kind of calculus to this. Like, cause why wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_13 1:02:08

No, the Lady Gaga came out and didn't know. Oh, that song that they ate together, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:13

And the Puerto Rican who's on the song wasn't there.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:16

I was like, brother, what are we doing? I think I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:20

I think Bro, that nigga was in the dungeon of fucking Resorts World Casino, my nigga. Going back to the Jay-Z. Yo, him and Offset are down bad. I don't know if y'all been paying attention.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

Offset it, offset is down terrible, though. But I think uh I think too, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:33

No, no, but apparently Bruno Floyd gonna fight you next.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:36

Apparently, apparently that nigga needs money. Apparently, Bruno, apparently Bruno paid this shit off.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:42

Yo, that nigga Floyd is doing a collector right now, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:46

Nah.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:47

Going back to the Jay-Z shit, the reason why I was like, yo, his next fight is gonna be in the parking lot at St. Peter and Paul with Ron, the homeless guy. Yo, how's that nigga?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:59

Nah, he be resurrecting from time to time. That nigga disappears for like four years and just comes back.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:03

Yeah, he didn't show up at all last summer or the one before, though.

SPEAKER_13 1:03:07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:09

It was a cold, it was a cold winter, too. And it was a very cold winter.

SPEAKER_13 1:03:12

But the thing that I was saying it was uh about fans and stands is because I I don't know, I feel like people, if you don't know about hip hop and you don't know who the fuck Jay-Z is and how he moves, then at the end of the day, it's real easy for you to be like, oh, he's taking shots. He's taking anything Jay-Z does is calculated. For sure. Like this man doesn't just speak out his ass, and at the end of the day, for niggas to go and start like grabbing, like back in the day, okay, maybe. Today, Jay-Z, oh nah. There's nothing like this thing, like even if he did have a beef with Drake, this nigga was over here fucking talking about oh, the hip-hop beef, like fighting against, like, bro, nothing he does. It's like this man, it's like I that's why I say, I think his whole thing is just almost like giving advice to these new up-and-coming rappers. It's like, yo, tell a story. Because it's like a lot of them, nigga, it's just about, like, for example, you look at Bobby Schmurder, like, nigga, Bobby, nigga, half of the shit he says, nigga, make no sense, and apparently he's snitching on his songs. So it's like how he got locked up. Because a lot of like a lot of these niggas are telling stories, but it's the wrong story. They tell them the nigga part of the story. These niggas is getting locked up, and that's a little part of the story. I would be the fans of all these other rappers. I'd be like, yo, Jay-Z is actually spitting fucking fat. Like, yo, we should start, these niggas should start rapping about something else instead of getting themselves indicted, nigga, in fucking bro, uh, uh, uh, Rico cases.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:43

Niggas be like, yeah, caught a body about a week ago, left a gun in my brother's house under the couch. Look at this nigga, David.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:51

Nigga said if you go to 27170 fourth floor, apartment for B, you gonna find it under the seat, the 45.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

Like, yeah, they never found B dot homie that we left in apartment 38.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:04

Shout out, shout out to to Moisette, but it's like nigga, Moisette Vickin was putting me on to this old David shit, nigga. The the singer, nigga.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:13

Oh, yeah, he told nigga when he told completely, he made a song about how he was gonna do it.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:18

Yo, bro, it's like, and I feel like that's he ain't the first one though.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:22

Why and W Melly?

SPEAKER_13 1:05:24

No, Kendrick said it, nigga.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:28

Yeah, man. I'm telling you, I tell you, boy. What was it that Kendrick said?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:31

He had the other one too, man. What's his name? Uh what's the one that's in there from RPT? Uh fuck a case. I was trying to I was trying to beat the race or whatever the hell. Um, I know you told me or whatever. Right?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:47

Isn't Dirk right now? I feel like Dirk is in jail because of some shit that he rapped about.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:52

Did he rap? I mean, but Dirk and everybody in a freaking Chicago. They done Chicago, but they they came up with that shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:59

You know, the fact that King Vaughn spent a second on the streets is so crazy to me.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:04

Because he used to rap about killing people, and the word about him was no, this man actually kills a lot of people. Yeah. No, it's I don't know how he was out long enough to release an album. Like it's wild.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:14

It's wild.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:16

So you were saying you were saying, um now he isn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:19

You were saying uh G G was saying that every everything that Jay-Z does is normally very calculated. I feel the same way. So I was wondering, like, do you what do you guys make of the fact that we have heard more from Jay-Z in the last month to month and a half than we've heard from him in years? Like, something's coming. Do you think it's just the the concerts? I don't some people are saying, oh, it's just the concerts, but I'm like, the concerts are gonna sell regardless. Yeah. The concerts, there you can't buy tickets to the concerts.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:50

Where you're wrong? Because you said it's Bruno. Guess who's going to do the Super Bowl? That would be a lap. I'm doing the Super Bowl nigga. Nigga, he's getting out of that exposure out there right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:02

Jay-Z, Jay-Z is my Jay-Z's my second choice.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:05

Nigga, that nigga's gonna grab that mic and be like, yo, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:08

Jay-Z is my second choice. But I just feel like they won't go Kendrick, Bad Bunny, Jay-Z. I feel like they'll put somebody else and then Jay-Z will be.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:19

That's why also why I feel like they're gonna they're gonna go with Biebs. Because I feel like they gotta cater to the I think they need a palette.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:24

They gotta cater to the white team. I think they need a palette cleanser. I think they need a palette cleanser after the last two years. And they're not gonna say it as much. Like Bieber is such, or or Bruno. Bieber, Bruno, like they're they're close enough to like our community that like we won't look at it as a palette cleanser, but it will be a palette cleanser.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:44

But do you think that with the political climate we're in right now, you think they really want to cater to the palette cleanser people?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:51

Yes, because the palette cleanser people still have money and they still drive ratings and they still Yeah, I'll tell you what, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:57

I just gassed up for$4.29, and I'm here to tell you Kamala probably wouldn't have been that bad.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:07

The only reason why I say that shit is diabolical, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:11

It's bad. Diabolical when I moved to Jersey, bro, gas was like$2.69. Who are you telling?$4.39 around me, bro.$439.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:21

Nah, the only reason why I say that is because that shit pushing$5 in some parts. Nigga, what?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:26

Yeah, because if it's$4.39 in Jersey, imagine, bro. Jersey's supposed to be cheap, nigga.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:30

What Trump did, nigga, with the whole turning point concert and all that shit. Do you really think niggas want to go and now cater to Africa?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:39

That wasn't Trump, though. That was uh that was Erica Kirk in that.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:41

Yeah, but he his mouth was the loudest.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:43

Yeah, no, like he supported he supported it, but like that, you know that was that was and he but nigga, he was like, yo, it's like, yeah, tune in.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:49

Don't watch that shit. Yeah, no, but he he he endorsed.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:51

That spick he didn't say all of that.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:54

Come on, come on, brother. Look at my African American over there.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:02

Nigga, think about yourself, nigga. Because nigga, think about you. If you don't watch Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl, then you ain't black. Nigga, think about yourself. Because I know all three of us think alike. If nigga, if some nigga went and attacked us for something that we did and said, like, oh, this is wrong, da-da-da-da-da. Do we go and say, okay, this year we gotta tone it down, we gotta make people happy? No. We'd be like, you know what? Guess who you getting next year, nigga? And that's it's you tone it down by putting Eminem up there. But that's how you tone it down.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:35

That's that's us, and I think that's the that's the street nigga, the hood nigga, the crash out in us. What have we been saying about Jay-Z the last couple times we've been here? Energy giving nothing but energy. Here's my thing. If it'll be a New York Super Bowl, we've been talking, we've been talking a lot about Jay-Z recently and saying that the thing about him is that he sounds a lot more like businessman Jay-Z than rapper Marcy Projects Jay-Z. And I feel like they have like an album coming in. I I that's what I'm that's what I'm more what I'm leaning towards. I think I think he could possibly be dropping something this year, which I'm excited for. I love to hear from But that's the thing, bro.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:11

If he drops an album, you think that man isn't gonna give himself the stage?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:16

But he could give himself the stage any year. Doesn't necessarily have to be this year. He could do that whenever he wants.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:20

Yeah, no, yeah, but it's uh I mean he could have done he could have put himself on it the first year. But there's there's one thing that that man loves.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:26

And he had verses he had verses ready, he had verses that were tracking and doing numbers. We just spoke about God did.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:32

He could put he could have put himself up. He, I mean, listen, I I don't listen, I don't know if it's gonna happen or whatever, but like when when's the Super Bowl coming in Miami? Because a Miami Super Bowl with a halftime performance from DJ Khaled and Friends would be nuts, even though DJ Khaled can't get Drake. But do you know, like, the freaking posse, the posse cuts that he that he has that he could bring and bring people out or whatever? Like that would be nuts. Just the amount of people that he could have there. I mean, I don't know how they could make that work. But yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:03

I think I I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:04

Cause I just feel like DJ Khaled fat ass ain't running around that stage, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:09

I feel like he don't got he just can stay. All he gotta do is stand in one spot and be like God did, like he's not gonna do much.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:17

Remember, he lost weight. He got a six pack now.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

Bro, every time he loses weight, bro, this shit comes right back. Oh, I seen that shit, the AI shit. The brother.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:25

But the thing is, it's like I don't know. Like I said, was a couple weeks ago. Jay-Z said it. He's not a business man, he's a business man. Let me handle my business. Damn. That man loves money. He loves and what's nigga, he's imagining.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:44

He gets the money no matter who performs.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:46

No, yes, but you know the money he gets if he goes up there himself? It's more money. Nigga, imagine, nigga, he's dropping an album. Nigga got three sold-out concerts. Now you got the Super Bowl. Nigga, now you fucking probably end up nominated for a Grammy, haven't won a Grammy in Man Long, take a couple Grammys home, nigga. Like, this whole I guess that man is genius, bro. It's like he's gonna go and do some shit. Or if even if he doesn't perform, he's not the main headliner, he's gonna do some shit where he appears.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:16

I don't think, it's see, that's the I I don't think he would appear. I don't think I think if we see Jay-Z on a halftime show, it's gonna be it's gonna be his halftime show.

SPEAKER_13 1:12:24

Unless it's Beyonce. Unless it's Beyonce, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:26

Yeah, his wife could get him to pop out, but I mean, that's it. Like, I mean Beyonce did it already. So I think been there, done that, okay. Like, I think I don't know. I just feel like I feel like we will get the Jay-Z halftime show. I think that's going to happen. I just don't know that this is the year. I think, like, and I know that it does seem like he's gearing up for something this year. I don't know if it's a halftime show.

SPEAKER_13 1:12:47

Or a biopic. We might be dropping a movie on his life.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:50

Could be that, a documentary. He's done documentaries before. Um, and if it's a documentary that's gonna be, you know, put to theaters and streaming and everything, then yeah, you wanna you wanna drive engagement around that. Whatever it is, it just seems that like he is engagement farming for something. And we don't see Jay-Z, we don't see him sit down and talk with all these people. Like, yo, he's been talking a lot. Jay-Z does not do fucking interviews, and we've gotten two big ones in a freaking six week span.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:20

And Jay Z has like eight kids, nigga, and we've only seen blue ivy. What the fuck is that? Like, this man don't like everything about this man is private.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:28

It's like and they live in New York, and it's like I I don't understand how this man they live in Tribeca and you Oh, that's what Mike I I believe one of his twins is apparently like uh their like special needs, like really, really bad. Yeah, I think that's like the conspiracy theory. Not that no, I think there was something out there about that, like that's why they don't bring them out or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:52

We're talking about like Rumi and Sir, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:54

Like one one of them, because one of the twins, they actually like Beyonce brings him out all the time, and then there's one that we never see. And when Nicki Minaj was beefing with them and going on her little crash out, she was saying that I think he got like autism or something. But that's been the word that like apparently like one of their twins has something like really like that's why they don't bring him out.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:14

Oh well, if that's the case, then I I would understand. Um, but it's true though, it's hard to know because he's just you and Matthew. He's generally fucking nightmare for a sensory, sensitive child going out with Beyonce and Jay-Z as your parents.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:28

But the thing is, bro, man, this nigga, bro, he's the stress level would be crazy. You just have to think about when he started dating Beyonce, nigga. There was it was all rumors. It was all yo, chill, nigga. We're trying to get that rock nation contract a minor. No, she was not under age.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:48

But the thing is, I mean, they fact rock nation. They did they did say some stuff though. I don't know. But remember, I don't know though. I don't know what to be true. I don't know.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:58

I don't know. To me, nigga, it was always like, yo, Jay-Z and Beyonce are together, but it was never confirmed by then, by them. It was never freaking something public or whatever. Smart. It's like them nigga, like their whole life was a secret. Nigga, yo, when Beyonce came out. And I'm glad that they do it that way. No, and that's what I'm saying. It's like, so it's like if now he's coming out and he's saying things, you think he's gonna waste his time trying to take a shot at Drake when not even because it's not even like fuck if they're actually beefing. And you're Jay-Z, you're a billionaire. Well, you're you're up there. It's like, do you really come out to come and and and when you know you're if he drops an album, then that's different. But it's like you know you're not gonna step in a booth and start going back and forth with Drake or any rapper, because not even a Drake thing. It's like Jay-Z is not just gonna go if a you know how many rappers have probably taken shots in Jay at Jay-Z that we probably missed in a song or whatever, and that nigga's not gonna take the time of day to fucking.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:58

I think despite like despite Jay's success, if he is trying to step back into like rapping and release an album, I think not not to say that he is saying some shit about Drake, but I think the motivation for him to do that would be just because Drake has always been like a contemporary. So one thing I think that was like really telling was an old interview where they told Jay-Z, they was just like, Oh, you know, like what do you think about like today's talent and shit? Like, what do you I think they asked him, like, what do you think about like they're like, if you're Michael Jordan, like who's like LeBron? And he said, like Drake. So I use that comparison because like LeBron and Michael Jordan, whether they like it or not, they're always gonna be like compared. So I think Jay-Z, if he's gonna like release an album again, like maybe he's not saying some shit about Drake, like negatively, but he's also not gonna fucking glaze because if he's gonna release an album, then then like let's just say if he is gonna release the album and he releases the album later this year, like nigga, he wants his album to do better than Iceman. You know what I'm saying? Like at that point, they would be competing. So I feel like, yeah, maybe, you know, not to say that he's throwing some shit at Drake, I'm just saying, like, he like that, and that's just what rappers do, like, generally, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, unless it's a rapper that they cool with publicly, they speak about other rappers in that way, like, oh, I don't know why these niggas be doing this or whatever. Cause at the end of the day, they kind of want to like subtly put other rappers down because it's like, bro, like, nigga, yeah, I want y'all to listen to my album better. Like, the same shit that Kendrick said on on control, like, nigga, I'm trying to take all your fans. I want them, I want all your fans to for it to be like they ain't never heard you. Like, I think it's just like a healthy competition there. So it's like, I don't think he'll ever just like glaze this nigga, but I can see why he would take like a subtle shot. Because they've always been, whether they like it or not, they always like pit Drake and Jay-Z up. Like people, like Jay-Z fans will always be like, nah, Drake has never been on his level, but then Drake fans will always be like, nah, but Drake has been better because he makes different kinds of music. And it's it's different. Like, in in this game, like, when we see how Drake ages, they're always gonna compare like him and Jay-Z because Drake at this point is reaching a point of longevity where I feel like Jay-Z maybe hasn't, depending how much longer Drake goes, like at the top of the game, because Jay-Z phased out at a certain point, and even before that, I think Kingdom Come maybe where people were saying like that it wasn't even a good album. I didn't really listen to it all the way. But basically, Drake hasn't reached that point where niggas are like where niggas are like retiring him, like, ah, this nigga's falling off. You know what I'm saying? So I think people just naturally pit them against each other. That's why I could like if Jay-Z just said, like, I ain't really fucking with Drake, like, nigga, I'm still better than him right now. Like, I definitely think Drake, like, Jay-Z feels like in 2026, like, nigga, I could drop a better album than what this nigga could drop. Like, I think he feels that way. I don't know.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:02

Like, as a competitor, as a rapper, yes, but I feel like to your Jordan and and and LeBron comparison, it's like when you ask Jordan about LeBron, Jordan will always just like he doesn't Jordan is indifferent to the whole conversation of who's better. And I feel like that's the same thing for Jay-Z. It's almost like, yo, my money speaks for itself, my career speaks for itself. Why the fuck would I go?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:27

And it's like start a fucking beef with a dude, beef with a so Jordan and LeBron, like you can never, you can have the debate, but you never really can have the debate because they can never play against each other. No, no, no, but I'm like in 2026, Jay-Z could drop an album and Drake could drop an album, and we could literally have the conversation of whose album was better.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:45

You know what I'm saying? Even still, though, even with that though, it's not like them playing against each other, it's not the same. Like Jay-Z would be dropping an album. Yes, like it's true, he'd be dropping a project, and Jerry and Drake would be dropping a project, but it's not prime versus prime. And and I think that's why these debates and these arguments, like it's fun, it's entertaining, and it passes time, but in all honesty, it's senseless. You you're never gonna get a consensus answer because they're not contemporaries, like Jay-Z versus Nas, yes, because they were Prime versus Prime, Drake versus Kendrick and Cole and Prime versus Prime. But when when it's Drake versus Jay-Z, when it's Jordan versus Kobe, Kobe versus LeBron, like it's not the same because the primes were not the same. And it's like it's tough to argue. Yeah, Jay-Z can drop to this year. And I just want to say those, those, yeah, Kanye is definitely Kobe. Uh, those albums will compete against each other because it's it's it's different from sports. The albums will be competing against each other on equal footing, but I just feel like it's unfair to compare like career-wise, because it's like we didn't like Prime Jay-Z was so freaking long ago.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:57

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:58

Like, it like at that point, if we got if if like that, and again, like now comparing even and people do that. They argue, they compare the primes, like, well, whose prime was better? I was having we were having this argument in the group chat, uh, I think it was this week, um, the M O Y U group chat, uh, about wrestling. And um, Christian and Pete were talking about like people's peaks and stuff, and they were like, uh, the Mount Rushmore of WWE, and they were like, Yeah, like, you know, the rock shouldn't be there because like honestly, like he just he wasn't at his peak for long enough. And I was like, huh? Like, I was like, bro, the rock? Like, I'm like, what are we talking about? I'm like, bro, this is Dwayne Johnson. What are you this dude is like I mean, like he transcended the WWE, like he is the first one that people started taking seriously as an actor in Hollywood, like he actually made the Hollywood transition work, he's opened the door for the rest of the people who are doing it today. Like, I'm like, how could he not be on the rush more? I'm like, yeah, I feel like he had and they they were like, nah, like even in his time, like Stone Cold was bigger and whatever. I was just like, I mean, okay. But here's my thing. I my I take my hat off to them. Like, I'm not I'm not the wrestling fan that Pete and Christian are.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:09

But Pete's a wrestling fan. Uh Pete's a huge wrestling fan. Oh, we gotta go to Yo, Pete. We out to SummerSlam, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:16

I mean, I I don't know, I don't know when's the last event that he went to, Christian either, but I know that he he he watches, and and in terms of like the history of it, like he's he's very, very Christian is the the Spanish dude? Kev is Kev is a Dominican dude. Uh Christian is the other the the other white guy that does the show with Kev. That's kind of our formula at MOYU. We get uh we get a white guy, we get a Dominican, and we make a show. Um but yeah, no, no, no. And it was one of those things where I was like, it's it's tough when we were doing that argument. I was like, well, it's tough to compare primes because the primes are also all at different times, right? Because then they brought it was like, nah, Cena 1000% has to be there. And it's like, while I understand the John Cena stuff or whatever, I feel like to be so gung ho about Cena and be so dismissive about the rock to me is crazy. I'm like, brother, like whatever swag and whatever you think Cena had with The Rock was a million times more. I'm like, bro, but it also it's opinion-based too. And that's most of these debates, most of these arguments, like they're opinion-based. It's what you like. Like when people argue Kendrick, Drake, whatever, it's like you're arguing opinion at the end of the day. Like somebody goes, Oh, Kendrick would Kendrick did this, it was better, it was better. Yeah, to you, but there's also guys who say to me it wasn't. And and you can't change somebody's opinion. Like what somebody likes is what they like. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 1:23:38

When people bring up the numbers, like the numbers also it's all based off what you like. Yeah, it's like or what people or what the people like.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:44

Now, if that's your debate, like, okay, who's selling more? Like, that's one thing. But even that, like, to me, that that's very, that's very how you say, like, it's because with DSP, it's a one dimensional yeah, it's it's a one-dimensional argument, really. When you talk about okay, then who's gonna have the bigger numbers? It's like, uh, you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't do all of it, like it doesn't encompass everything. But again, there's people who will have those arguments and just have that argument. To those people, I'm like, okay, that's fair. I can't argue with that. Because if you're just arguing, yo, Jay-Z's dropping this year, Drake's dropping this year, head to head, like who's gonna have the better numbers? It's like, okay, if you want to argue that, you argue it. Because there will be numbers at the end of the day, and you'll be able to prove a clear winner. No opinion, no, it's just it'll be facts, numbers versus numbers. And low-key, if you want to have a numbers debate, you kind of could because both albums would have similar anticipation. Yeah, like we haven't heard from Hove in mad fucking long in terms of in terms of an album. He's dropped amazing verses, he's had appearances, whatever, cool. But a full-length album, it's been a freaking while. This might be Drake's most anticipated album of his career.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:54

So I was like, if you want to compare it like that or whatever, I think this would be a good year to do that.

SPEAKER_13 1:24:58

And to me, this this album is also it's it's I always say when people the only person who can hype up an album, then whether he disappoints or not, like it doesn't matter because it's a career is solidified, is Kanye because of his diagnosis. Kanye's the only, but even Jay-Z, like or uh Lil Wayne, Drake, whoever the fuck, uh J. Cole, Kendrick, it's like you can't freaking go hype up an album for over a fucking year and then drop straight Kaka, which I don't think Drake is gonna do. I don't know, man. Have you heard the leaks? Nah. It's Kaka?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:43

Is that you heard the leaks? Drake leaks?

SPEAKER_03 1:25:46

Yeah. Nah, round listen to no leaks, bro. That should be a little bit more than a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:50

I'm gonna tell you right now, if if what I'm hearing is anything close to what this album is, this album is going to be one of the best albums of this motherfucker's entire career. Every leak that I heard, this nigga is rapping, rapping. Every leak. Rapping. Let's go. That's what rapping. He's doing that, and he's not doing that. But that's exactly why I don't listen to the leaks, bro.

SPEAKER_13 1:26:13

Because then the album comes out and it's something completely different.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:16

Caesar listened to like nine fucking songs that are leaks that are super fire. The album comes out and maybe play them.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:22

And I'm and if they're out there, he allows them to be out there. Yeah. This is all this is all a part of the rollout, uh, which I want to talk about. What do y'all think about this rollout so far? There's been a lot of speculation made. People are like, oh, it's not that good. And other people are like, this might be his best rollout, or whatever. I lead on the side that this is one of the better rollouts in his career.

SPEAKER_13 1:26:42

Better than J. Cole's rollout. I like Cole's rollout too. I really did. I said, No, no, no. I didn't say that. I said it's better.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:50

Better? I'll I'll agree it's better for sure. I I think, but I'm gonna say, of course it's better. It's it's I I really think it's one of Drake's better rollouts in his whole career, his whole catalog. Like the fact that what he's doing ice block thing, ice block, yeah. That that shit was and then again, people are people are coming at him for his his involvement of the streamers, but I think I think it's genius.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:13

I don't really like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:14

You don't like him involving the streamers?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:17

So I don't think it takes away from the rollout. I think it's a smart move on his part. Just personally, like, it's just annoying. So it's just for me because you don't like streamers, yeah. Like, I don't I don't watch that shit. So for instance, when he did it, like I know focus when he did the shit, nah, I actually don't watch it. But when he when he did the shit where he put the ice block out there, I was like, oh, that's dope. Like, let's like I wonder what he's gonna do with that shit. But then when they posted the video of the streamer kid, two days later, yeah, who found the shit, and then he goes to Drake's house and he's streaming this whole shit. He's like, Oh, Dre, I'm just like, bro, this shit is fucking like I am not watching this little nigga like oh iceman, man. I'm not watching this shit. Like that's To me, it's corny. I say it's smart because it's just like, bro, like that, you're literally just fucking grabbing a fucking pause. You're grabbing a demographic of listeners like by the horns. Like you're literally, like you're literally like injecting that your music into listeners who probably maybe don't even check for your album. But because they listen to certain streamers who fuck with certain streamers, so I think it's just super smart. Just me personally, like, I don't like the shit with streamers. I don't like the shit he does with AC. Like, I'm just like, bro, like, bro, you're one of the best rappers out here. Like, wait, what does he do with ACK?

SPEAKER_02 1:28:37

I I actually the part that I don't like about AC is like I don't like I don't like that he does the shit that he does with Ben Donn and fucking Aiden Ross when Ack is has been like his biggest fan and main supporter for all these years, and yet you've never done a stream with fucking AK, but you're with Aiden all the fucking time. Like I think that shit pisses me off. It's no disrespect to Aiden, like, you know, Aiden, do your fucking thing, whatever, God bless. But I'm like, I just if to me the act shit bothers me because it's like, yo, this nigga goes so fucking hard for Drake, bro. He goes so fucking hard for Drake. And it's like Drake just keeps that nigga just there, like on a loop. Like he's stringing him along, like so, like like a like almost like a girl that like he don't really fuck with, like that. He just keeps in the rotation just in case.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:22

Ack is not, at the end of the day, act is not really like loyal, nigga. I act is a fucking he's a fucking clout church.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:27

But I feel like he's been loyal to Ak is loyal, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:30

To Drake, act is put it this way Ack is still on good terms and solid with Joe Budden, who's been hating Drake for how long?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:40

Yes, and he says and he says that Joe is wrong about a lot of his Drake's takes. Yeah, but he's still solid with him.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:46

But he calls out his man. He's he's I get it, but he calls him out. No, but you could disagree and say, nah, I think Joe Button is.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:52

So he gotta he gotta stop being Joe Button's man's because he fucked with Drake?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:55

Is Aiden Joe's Joe Button's man? Aiden Ross and Joe and Joe Button have literally a beef. Like, Joe Budden did nothing really to Aiden Ross, but say, oh, I don't like how he did this. And Aiden Ross went crazy on that nigga. Why do you think he went crazy on that nigga? Because he's like, Drake is my man's, he comes and does streams with me. Is fuck that nigga. I think to a certain extent, like Ack isn't like I feel like Ack is loyal to like clout. Like he, I think I I legit think AK is a Drake.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:22

All streamers are loyal to clout. Yeah, that's the whole basic, that's their currency. Remember how we were talking before about the social currency with the rappers and the pop stars, whatever. For streamers, their social currency is clout.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:34

But I don't think so. I don't think act, I don't think Aiden would switch on Drake for clout as easy as AK has. Because AC hasn't always been the top Drake nigga. When did Axe switch on Drake? Like for me, if you if you're talking about like just somebody who's like a loyal person that deserves like a look from Drake, I don't want to see you streaming, listening to fucking a Kendrick this saying, ah, this kind of fire, he's killing that nigga.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:05

But he's just kind of object. He's being that but that's why I say he's the best because he's objective. Like, I don't I don't respect Aiden Ross telling me, like, who the Aiden Ross telling people that Kendrick songs is whack is crazy. Who the fuck is Aiden Ross to tell somebody Kendrick is whack?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:20

But you saying, like, you saying why he doesn't sit with Ack and he sits with Aiden, because let's be honest, nigga, he's gonna sit with the nigga, he knows is always gonna glaze it. And I think he's wrong for that. No, that's fine, but I just think he's wrong for that. But if you're gonna be able to do it's my same argument, it's my same sit with a big thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:33

It's my same argument, but then again, but but what you so you you think that you think that Aaron Boone is justified for going and sitting with Talking Yanks every week because he knows that they're gonna glaze him and throw him softballs down the middle versus sitting with somebody like us because we're not gonna do that? Or would the better move be sit with the people who are gonna get the better interview out of you and give people what they want?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:55

But I just feel like if you don't, so if you don't have to do it, like when you think about niggas like fucking like Aaron Boone, like Drake, they don't have to sit with anybody. So it's like what he's thinking is Exactly, but they but they do. So anytime he sits with somebody.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:08

Now Drake does. Right now, I feel like Drake don't have to succumb. Nah, nigga. Oh no, bro. You are, but Drake? Nigga, Drake Drake.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:17

Drake don't gotta sit. Oh, come on, nigga.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:19

He he needs to sit with somebody. Oh my god. I get you don't like Drake, but that is a crazy take, bro. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:26

It's not even about liking Drake because it's like But he don't, he Drake saying Drake has to sit with streamers?

SPEAKER_13 1:32:32

It's like no no no no no. I'm not saying streamers. I feel like he needs to like sitting down with Axe, sitting down with fucking, well, he ain't gonna sit down with Charlemagne. It's like sitting down with Charlemagne, Joe and Jada. He ain't gonna sit down with Joe Buddha. Joe and Jada. Joe, uh fat Joe and Jada kiss. I don't think he's down with it. I don't think he's gonna sit down with the that would be one hell of an interview.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:55

No, that would be funny. But that's my thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:58

But you think you're saying he has to do it. Yeah, but G's saying he has to do it. I'm trying to figure out, okay, like why does he have to do that?

SPEAKER_13 1:33:07

Because it's my my I feel like he has to do it because okay, has to maybe is a strong word. He doesn't have to. But I feel like one of the biggest things for Drake is. Are you saying more like he should? He should. Because the thing is, it's like, bro, I can see that. Especially if you're saying that if you're saying that he's rapping, rapping, nigga, who I'm gonna play, I'm gonna play some of them showing. It's like yo, who the fuck is gonna like, yo, you're catering to the fucking culture? It's like the culture isn't uh hip-hop, isn't screamers, hip-hop isn't Aiden Ross, hip-hop isn't, it's like, no, you have to sit down with the niggas who's gonna fuck. If you're gonna drop the fucking uh uh uh techno album, then whatever the fuck.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:50

You don't have to sit sit with sit with DJ Gordo, man.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:52

It's like sit with whoever. But it's like yo, if you're dropping hip-hop, it's like yo, sit down, like yo. I feel like that's my issue with Drake.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:00

Right, here's but but that's the thing. Hip hop as a collective threw that sent that nigga to the gulag two years ago.

SPEAKER_13 1:34:07

Yo, so sit down with whoever, whoever the fuck still supports you, which is apparently academics, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:13

To me, to me, act is the one.

SPEAKER_13 1:34:15

Nigga, so sit down with act. It's like so that the people can see you. The people can fucking- I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:19

I don't think he has a deal with Apple currently. I think his main proprietor right now is Spotify.

SPEAKER_13 1:34:26

Because he was using him when he was dropping the diss. He was sending that nigga to disses.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:30

Oh yeah, act because exactly and that and but that that's that again, that bolds that freaking that proves the point that I'm making with the Aiden shit. That it's like when it was when it was go time and you was in the heat of battle, you couldn't send them shits to fucking Aiden Ross. You had to set it, you had to go to somebody who was in the tune with him. You had to go to Act. Yeah. So it's like, okay, when you when when when AC is the avenue that most benefits you, you're texting him, you're sending him love, you're like, yo, you hitting him up, like, yo, stay on stream and all that shit. But then, like, for other shit, it's like afterwards, you get on stream and you're sitting there with Aiden Ross and doing these hour long, hours long streams and shit, or you're doing your own streams and Ben the Don pulls up. And I get it, Axe says it all the time, like, yo, I don't need like I don't know. I never asked Drake for anybody. I never, but it's like, brother, like with all the fucking work that you've done towards his career, like, bro, it at the it like I don't understand how Drake hasn't just been like, nah, bro, I gotta fucking I gotta do something for my guy Big Act, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:25

Like he's fucking held it down because all these hip hop platforms, bro, them niggas switch up and them niggas could be bored. Like them niggas, but I don't think switched up is my argument.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:34

Like, I think the same thing. Just because he sat on the stream and played the Kendrick diss and was like, nah, that shit was good, I he was being objective. So I'm saying is you you're a Drake fan.

SPEAKER_13 1:35:43

You you saying Kent none of Kendrick's disses were good? Because what what that sounds like is that that nigga's a bitch. That's what that shit sounds like. If you freaking that little butt, if you're that butt hurt over fucking the fact that a nigga just fucking gave his unbiased opinion, nigga, then you a bitch.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:57

No, all right. So I I'll say this, right? My shit is this. I use Joe Button as the as the example because nigga, Joe Budden was clearly biased in the beef. So of course he was biased. Joe Button was born to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:08

Joe Buddy was born. It's coming out now. It's coming out now that he was born.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:11

So it's like niggas like Joe Budden and niggas like fucking Ebro, it's clear when everything was going on, they was compromised. They was clearly like on Kendrick's side, they was clearly biased. So if I'm Drake and there's a nigga that isn't doing what Joe Budden or Ebro is doing, and the niggas, the nigga seems like he's on my side, he's a fan of me, but he also fucks with this nigga Joe Budding. He's been on a show with Joe Budden, like he has done Joe Budden's podcast. I'm not saying it's fuck that nigga, but I'm saying I'm keeping that nigga at arm's length because where right now him and Ack, they're in a position where it's a mutually beneficial thing. Like, he gives Ack like certain like exclusive shits, like where he he'll tell Axe some shit that he doesn't tell, he hasn't told nobody else, or he'll say some shit like act, well, act can break news about Drake and niggas know like oh this is real. So I think he does do a few things for AC. But it's true to C's point, like nigga, he's not sitting on a fucking stream, like that would do way more for Ack. But also I feel like with Aiden, it's a girl.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:14

He needs to go to Act, wherever the fuck Act records, the basement, whatever, nigga. We should have been seen Drake in that fucking basement. No, but what I'm saying is like With how many hours he spent sitting there with Henny Bottles talking about Drake?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:24

But that's what I'm saying. Like with Aiden, like I feel like in Aiden's career, Aiden has needed him. So that loyalty is different because at the end of the day, like AC doesn't really need him. Drake can do a lot for Ack, but he doesn't need him. Like Ack built his following off of reporting off of like fucking Chicago rappers and Shahrak. Yeah. Yeah, like if he if Drake, if Ack never says anything about Drake ever again, he can still have a career. Like, I think if Drake never goes on an Aiden stream ever again, I don't know what his career would be. Like if he never had that Drake had the Drake cosign.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:03

Aiden Aiden's still gonna be fine because streamers, again, streamers live off clout, and they'll just find the next big thing to clout chase off and and and freaking engage in that currency. I just with with with the Drake with the Drake with the Drake stuff, with the Drake stuff too, because I think okay, even if even if you want to use the example with Act, then I could also I could say the same thing about Maul. Maul never, you could whatever switch up you you claim act did, you can't say that about Maul. Maul stood so 10 toes down during that fucking beef that people were out here clowning the shit out of him, week in, week out. They said this nigga's delusional, he's gassing it, he's lying. He's saying that the because Kent, yo, he was out there saying that the Kendrick shit wasn't hitting like that, that Drake was this, Drake was that, whatever, like that. Drake was winning, Drake is whatever. He had Drake in the lead the whole time. He still even he still speaks to it like Drake won the big but Maul, Maul, if whatever switch up you say, act it, nigga. Maul never even remotely sniffed that. Drake never sat down with Maul. Never even did an IG live with Maul.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:11

No, but that's what I'm saying. Like, I really feel like nigga, he fucks with Aiden because he knows that Aiden needs him. So he's the loyalty that he gets from Aiden is different because I feel like from Aiden it's just like, bro, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be here if it wasn't if it wasn't for you. Whereas nigga, Maul knows nigga, Maul would be exactly where he is if it wasn't for Drake. And even then, like even with Maul, like he gives that nigga exclusive shits. Like when Maul was talking about the shit that he said about Cole, Drake never came out and said that to anybody. Maul broke that news. So I do feel like he gives them something, but also it's just like he doesn't really do any hip-hop platforms, and that goes back to like G's point where it's just like he should do it, like what whatever, like it could maybe it should be like a Rory and Maul.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:59

But none of them, none of them fucking do. None of them do. And I and I and I think he should be. Kendrick, okay, like and and the people's argument is always, oh, but they did it in the past. I don't give a fuck about the past. The past is the past. What about today? Today we have all these fucking hip hop outlets. Like, why the fuck am I why like bro? Kendrick had the biggest year of his career, and he did not, he didn't sit with nan one of these niggas, bro. He didn't sit with one of these niggas. Like, what the fuck, bro? That shit is corny as hell. Like, how the hell do you have the year that you had and you didn't sit with Joe Button? And I feel like Joe was glazing your shit for an entire year. You couldn't find one day, and and he was in New York. He was in fucking Brooklyn the whole time. Bro, that shit is crazy, man. And I feel like that's my thing. That shit is crazy to me, bro. Fuck that shit. And and it's fuck all of them for that. Fuck Cole, fuck him, fuck. Well, no, because not fuck Cole. I take Cole back because Cole sat with he sat with Cam. Cole sat with Cam.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:03

Yeah, after he got sued for not sitting with Cam.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:06

He sat with Cam though. Hey, whatever the fuck it took. You see what it takes to get one of these niggas to sit out. And I won't do a fucking interview. He sat with Cam. He sat with the desk of. What was the other one he did? Cole did Cole did a couple did a couple. He did a couple. Cole did a couple and and and respect. Respect. And who the fuck knows? Maybe Drake is gonna do it. But here's here's what I tell you right now. I don't think Drake's sitting with none of these niggas. Drake, at this point, nigga, with every with the way shit went two years ago and the way people were shaking ass for Kendrick and celebrating the demise and the downfall of Drake, it's clip for y'all. Like I think it's over.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:41

Drake is petty, petty, petty. And that's what I will say. Like Aubrey Petty Graham.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:46

Like he is not showing up to nobody's platform at this point.

SPEAKER_13 1:41:50

But I feel like that's the thing. Okay, let first of all, let's let's let's backtrack this narrative. Because I say at times, not always, I say wild shit. It's not that I don't like Drake. Drake, nigga, if you know me, you know I'm a big Wayne fan. And if you knew, and if you know me from back in the day, I've been rocking Drake from the very beginning. It's like Drake. My issue with Drake is all this mainstream dumb shit that he does. And I say the other G word that I almost slipped up. It's like that's the shit that I don't mess with. Like that, that any rapper, it's not just a Drake thing. Any rapper who caters to who caters to to the to the BS, it's like I'm very much like yo, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:35

You don't like J. Cole Grippy? Huh? No.

SPEAKER_13 1:42:37

No. No. Fuck out of here. That's just gay. Grippy. But it's like, I don't like anybody. I don't even think Misaya like that song, bro. It's like anybody who switches, who cold switches, I don't respect that. Okay. It's like, that's my thing. Drake's rap career is solidified. Ain't nobody, no one could debate that. My thing is, to me, it seems like, yo, you forgot that the people who got you where you are was the culture. It's like now you're reaching out to a new demographic. Why? Because of money. And it's like that's the shit I don't like. I get it. You have to make your bread. But you're not even relying on like, yo, it was us, nigga, it was our generation, nigga, that made you fucking famous.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:43:25

It was us, nigga. Remember, you you after that new money, but that old money nigga was the shit that made you a fucking uh a multi-millionaire, the megastar that you are today. That's my issue with Dre. And the fact that you won't go sit down with somebody from the culture, and I get it, a lot of niggas hate on you. But the fact that there are those that don't hate on you like that, nigga, that you can sit down with and have a conversation, but instead you go and sit with some fucking white kid that fucking thinks that he could go and say nigga and all this other dumb shit, it's like, nigga, are you fucking crazy? It's like that's the shit I don't respect about the man. It's not the music so much. I don't respect the man and the shit he does. Even when it came to the beef with Kendrick, and I said this shit to certain people. Yo, every time Drake dropped, I was like, yo, that shit was fire. And it's like you compare all of Drake's songs, it's like the shit was just fire after fire. I was like, you can't debate that until the last one. Until that last garbage shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:21

Which I think was good. I don't think it was garbage. I think I think it was good. I just don't, it wasn't good enough.

SPEAKER_13 1:44:25

He was all good enough.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:27

In my opinion, it wasn't good enough.

SPEAKER_13 1:44:29

Yeah, it's like, but the thing is, it's like, bro, it's that. It's like, yo, bro, sit down with somebody, nigga, who's gonna like yo, it's hip hop. It's not fucking streaming. Yo, you're at a point, nigga, that I guarantee you you go to a Drake concert, nigga. Most of the nigga, we'll be the not even the the old heads, nigga. We'll we're gonna be the grandpa sitting in that fucking bitch, nigga. A lot of these niggas fucking that'll go to that concert, nigga, will be a lot of young girls, young guys who sit down in that bitch. And and a lot of baddies.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:58

Yeah, a lot of the baddies. Well, I can't. A lot of the IG baddies, man. They be there, they be at them concerts, man. But I think like they out there. Nah, but I think like in the front rows, they got floor seats and they backstage, man.

SPEAKER_13 1:45:11

But the thing is, and then you still have some of the like us that still support like Iceman when that shit drops, like, I'm gonna listen to it. And if there's really fire, nigga, I'll be the first nigga on this pod to be like, yo, this nigga is the fucking greatest. But if it's not fire, it's not fire. If you drop another techno shit, nigga, and Iceman is just more techno and this ain't gonna be no, this ain't gonna be no techno.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:31

I'm gonna tell you that's it.

SPEAKER_13 1:45:32

It better not even though I like it. What's that shit uh uh is this Stacy? Is it Key? Nokia. Nokia nigga, when the fuck the function I love the song, the song is fucking fire, but it's baby girl, but if it's that, nigga, I'ma be tight, nigga. Baby girl, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:52

My my shit is with with the fucking hip-hop platforms is like we gotta be honest about what hip-hop platforms have become, nigga. Like, let's like call like call it what it is, bro. Like a lot of these hip hop platforms are fucking biased. They they choose a side, they're fucking taking payola from niggas. Like, when you talk about it, like there's really no benefit for a rapper to go and sit down there other than niggas like us saying, yeah, it was good to hear from him. Because nigga, we do a podcast, we listen to podcasts, we would listen to the video, break down what he's saying. Like, that means something to us. But like, an actual rapper doesn't have a fucking benefit. This nigga Drake went and sat down with Elliot Wilson years ago when he dropped the album, dropped a fire ass interview with Elliot Wilson, and then what? What's happening today? Nigga, Elliot Wilson is one of his biggest fucking haters, so there's really no benefit. Like, my shit is my that and that's what goes back to my point about the streaming is like, bro, I get it if you don't want to sit down with a podcast or do an interview, but don't not do that and then go on the fucking stream. Like, just be like the weekend. The weekend doesn't do don't don't sit down with nobody. He don't he don't do magazines, he don't do shit with nobody. When you hear from that nigga when he either is accepting an award or drops fucking music. My shit is just do that. Don't not go on a hip hop.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:11

Which apparently is coming soon, also. This this is shaping up to be a pretty good year musically because apparently the weekend, the weekend will be dropping. But look at Cole, Cole freaking nigga. And I think he's done, but he finished that trilogy. So this next one is gonna be different. Besides the the sit down with Cam.

SPEAKER_13 1:47:28

Nigga, Cole was on the he was interviewing, nigga. I don't I don't know anybody Cole has interviewed with.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:34

Nah, Nedesca, Nadeska's hip hop okay, hip-hop journalism.

SPEAKER_13 1:47:37

Besides her. Yeah. But it's like that nigga was going all over on the all these random ass podcasts. He was showing love, bro. But it was showing love, bro. But it's like that. You don't need necessarily need to be with one of the big guys. Like, yo, bro, that and that's my thing. It's like, because no.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:51

I think Drake, I think Drake, no. Like, I I do I think Drake needs to do one of the fucking big I I'm I'm honestly, I get it. You and Joe got this beef and whatever. It's like, oh, I don't want to, but it's like, bro, okay, you said you don't want to help his platform or whatever. His platform's gonna grow whether you do it or you don't. You can't stop it from growing. And he can't stop you from growing. And I think it if you were to do it with Joe, this needs to be a partnership thing.

SPEAKER_13 1:48:18

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:19

But getting into fucking bed with Bobby Alt, like, bro, I'm sick of that shit, bro. I'm I'm done with that shit. Like, bro, what the fuck? You're the the biggest artist in fucking hip hop, but you don't sit with nobody hip-hop. And the same goes for Kendrick. Fuck that nigga too. Like, you had the biggest fucking year, you won all these awards because hip-hop was up your ass so far that they were coming out your throat, and you didn't sit down with nobody.

SPEAKER_13 1:48:45

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:46

Scissor interviewed you. Get the fuck out, like, bro. This shit is whack, bro. This shit is old whack. Like, it's to me, I'm yo, I'm that shit, and I I I'm screaming, I'm getting whatever. But it's like, bro, that cause that shit means something to me as a fucking fan. Like, bro, the fact that we are probably never going to get the Joe Budden Drake interview because Joe Budden is a petty bitch and Drake is a pettier bitch, is stupid to me. It's stupid to me. Both of them don't give a fuck that they are depriving the people who made them what they are of one of the greatest things that we could ever fucking hope for as fans. And neither of them gives a fuck because they both up, they both got money, they're taking care of their family, and they just don't fucking care anymore. And it's fucked up because you wouldn't fucking be where you are if it wasn't for fans like me who fucking pay the fucking$26 a fucking month, who actually go out and purchase your fucking album instead of just streaming it. Like, where the f it's because of fans like me, not the fucking people watching Aiden Ross, not the people who follow Bobby Altoff, no disrespect to her, but who the fuck is Bobby Altov? Like why this is the shit I'm talking about. Like, bro, Drake, Joe Budden, like argue, argue, let Joe say the Shit that he was saying to your face and you fucking answer it for once. Call him out. Be like, you know that shit's bullshit, Joe. You know that shit is bullshit. You don't fucking believe that. Say it. Like, why can't we get that moment? We can't get that moment. Why? Because niggas don't give a fuck at the end of the day. Niggas don't care at the end of the day. Kendrick, niggas talk about Kendrick on this. Oh, you know Kendrick, he cares. He's real hip hop. Ebro twerking for the nigga. Charlemagne twerking for the nigga. Joe Budden twerking for the nigga. All of you niggas twerk for that nigga. He didn't sit with name one of you niggas. Gave all you niggas his ass to kiss. Sat there and got interviewed by fucking scissors. Who the fuck is Scizor to interview Kendrick Lamar? During his biggest year of his career? You couldn't sit down with none of these niggas?

SPEAKER_13 1:50:44

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:45

Like, come on, gang. Elliot Wilson, oh my god, you want to talk about twerking. Elliot Wilson had a he had a thong on. He had a Kendrick Lamar thong on. This motherfucker's like 60 years old. Didn't sit with him. Couldn't sit with him. Nah, too busy. Too busy.

SPEAKER_13 1:51:01

That's what I said. It's a whole bunch of bit bitchness, nigga, that was going around also in the industry, nigga. Because even if you think about back in the day when Kanye and 50 Cent dropped uh, what was it? Uh Valentine's Day Massacre and or the Massacre, whatever the fuck 50 Cent called that shit, and freaking graduation. It's like nigga, these things were on 106 in park. These niggas were out there. It's like these niggas bet. Like they, yo, it was like, yo, there was so much answer. But it's like, bro, the whole industry is so fucked, nigga, that this shit, like, bro, I really do hope Jay-Z drops an album. And he does it as in the petty, even though I don't think he's, I don't, I know he's not gonna do it. But in the past, like, Nas has dropped the album, Jay-Z's dropped it either the same day or a couple days after. It's like, I hope that that that when Iceman drops, Jay-Z drops some shit. Because at the end of the day, bro, that's the shit that's needed. It's like, bro, hip-hop is not even, it's about it's a bunch of fucking hurt little bitches.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:58

They gotta, at the end of the day, are just bro, it's not even that they don't need it, it's again to your point and to Zay's point, they don't need it anymore. That's the problem. They don't need it anymore. We lost, we lost the moment that we allowed, and it wasn't just us fans, it was also the labels and and the game itself. Once they allowed these people to become these megastars without doing the traditional media, we lost. That was it right there. They don't have to go, they don't have to, they don't that's the issue is that they don't know. They don't have to, they don't have to go, they don't have to go to the radio no more. Go to Love Island, they don't have to go to the radio no more, they don't have to do everything, it's the same thing.

SPEAKER_12 1:52:35

They don't need the niggas no more.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:36

It's the same thing. Like, look, vamos a sincero. Like, Romeo and Prince Royce showed up to Casalo Foque. Why? Because it's not the same in Spanish music right now. You know what I'm saying? As big as Romeo is, as big as Prince Roy is, it's like, yes, they drop an album, but they need to do a whole rollout. People need to start seeing them together, they need to do interviews. They did a bunch of freaking interviews, they did a bunch of appearances, porque they had to do it. They had to to make sure that the album did what it was supposed to do. They the money went into it, the money needed to be recouped and brought back, and then the tour also, so they did they did it, right? Did you see did you see Bad Bunny do that shit? No. Who interviewed Bad Bunny? Where's the where's the where's the where's the where's the where's the big interview for Devi Tama Photo? Where is it?

SPEAKER_13 1:53:31

It doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:32

He doesn't need it, but he doesn't need it, is the problem. He doesn't need it. And that's the thing. It's like I get it. Most of these artists are they they're they're too big, they they're they become introverts, and it's like, nah, I don't fuck with the media. The media's always twisting my words and doing this and that. I understand that, but it's like brother, what about the fucking fan? The ones who suffer is us at the end of the day. Like, nigga, I am dying, dying to hear a freaking feature interview with Benito. Like, bro, I need two hours, bro. I want to know everything. I want to know everything about that fucking album. About how like the inspiration behind it, recording it, fucking being in PR, the fucking Super Bowl. Dodo, like, I want to hear everything. He and don't get me wrong, he did, he did his little spots. He did his little spots, but that's not what I'm talking about, bro. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the fucking the feature-length interview that we used to get, bro. It doesn't happen anymore because they don't need it. They don't need it.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:33

But also, I I feel like so. I'm gonna say this and I wanna hear what what y'all think. Like this shit with yes, they don't need it, but I feel like, so before it was it was happening because they needed it, right? Niggas were going to Breakfast Club knowing that Charlemagne was a wild nigga who probably done talk shit about them at some point, but they need the looks, right? But I think now it's it's gotten to a point where it's just like just the media in general, like C says, like, they're twisting niggas' words, the same platform you go on today in six months when some shit's not about you. Yeah, when some accusation comes up, they're gonna talk mad shit about you. Like, shouldn't some of the onus be on the platform to just be like, alright, bro, like it's our fault too. Like, nigga, we gotta stop treating these fucking artists like this. And I said this with the Breakfast Club shit with fucking Dame. Like, nigga, Dame went up there, and don't get me wrong, bro. Dame Dash is a flawed nigga, but you could tell when he went up there, their mission was just like, bro, like, we're gonna discredit everything you say, and as soon as you leave here, we're gonna talk shit about you. So, what does that tell the next Dame Dash type nigga who might want to do an interview? Like, look at the way these niggas treat niggas, and even from like the even even with the with the Joe Budden shit, like even if I'm Drake and it's just like, because I feel like I always felt like the biggest the biggest thing that could happen would be Drake going on Joe Buddh and shit just because of their fucking history. But also, Joe Budden is an underrated interviewer, like he's not gonna go up there and just talk like fucking tabloids and shit. Like this nigga, he's also a music nerd. Like, and he has history with Drake, like parks also as a as a friend, yeah. Like they can't. Parks also.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:14

I would give a great ice, also. They would give a great interview. They're they're there's they're set up, they're set up uniquely in a way that I don't know another platform is. I think Elliot and B Dot did a decent job years ago when they got the Drake interview at the embassy in Toronto. I think they I think they did a decent job. Um, yeah, one of the worst ones was the what's the dude from Apple? Zane Lowe. The Zane Lowe. Oh my god, because Zane Lowe is always like these just puff piece, like he just every album. I said every time Zane Lowe sits across an artist, they made they made the greatest album of all time. Every single fucking time. I can't stand it. But Joe and them, it they're uniquely qualified, bro, to fucking do the best. That's and and and with all the fucking nonsense and everything, whatever, you know, Joe would fucking prepare for that fucking interview because he knows how big the moment is. He understands the moment better than dare I say damn near anybody at this point. He would understand the moment more.

SPEAKER_13 1:57:13

But my thing is, it's like, for example, with clips, yes, they've been out of the scene for a long time. It's like they they were quiet for quite a while, whatever. You could call you can say whatever. But all the shit they did for the rollout, I feel like was so unnecessary when everybody was already talking and saying that their album was fired. It's like you had the whole industry talking. But these niggas were still doing pop-up shows. Niggas was just showing up to a random spot doing a small little concert. Niggas was doing all it like all over the fucking city, all over the US, just doing random shit. Not because they could I and I feel like that's what people misunderstand. It's not so much that, like uh, what's it called? Like, Drake in it by himself, Drake could say, I'm dropping, I'm dropping Iceman May 15th, and that's it. He didn't have to do the block of the ice blocks, he didn't have to do none of that, he didn't have to do that stream on YouTube, he didn't have to do shit. He just and he will make numbers. But the issue is that you're also forgetting that the interview, it's not so much for your album. It's not so much so that at the end of the day, people could go buy it. It's not so much so that, oh, all those, it's like, yo, it's for your fans. Like sitting down, it's like it's so that your fans, like C's was saying earlier, yo, you get into the fucking mind of the artist and see, like, yo, having a good interview is so fucking important because you get to understand, like, yo, what they went through, what happened. Yeah, it's like fucking, for example, when we saw, what is it, that Kanye West documentary, and you see like everything that went into fucking college dropout, everything that went into graduation, everything that went into lay register, all in fucking albums, and it's like even the Yeezes, like, oh, like you saw, like with your eyes and heard freaking uh uh uh like the the the the process he had to go through dealing with the mental health, dealing with even when Joe sat down with with with what's it called with offset. It's like but now this is the issue uh a hip hop platform, a a coach uh a platform that's for the culture. The other day, motherfucker sat down with Natasha Bettingfield.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:24

Whoever Natasha Bettingfield, yeah. I was like, what the fuck is this? And it was a great interview.

SPEAKER_11 1:59:30

I got a back and yeah, yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_13 1:59:34

It's not and it's not that it's exactly and it wasn't that it was bad, but it's like no, it was a great interview. It was like, really? That's what we're at.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:43

It's like but I'll say that I'll say that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:47

I didn't mind that all. I like I like the interview actually. I like that she I like that they branch out. Here's my thing though, right? Like, I mean, isn't that kind of what they have to do in a sense? Because these people won't show up there.

SPEAKER_13 2:00:01

But that's but that's what I'm saying. It's like, yo, bro, like we're not even supporting each other. And this you're about to get me. Everybody No, and that's the thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:10

See, when you bring up support each other, everybody just gets more entrenched because Drake is like, Drake will say, They didn't support me, and Joe will say, uh, he's not supporting me. Like, everybody, everybody has has good valid points, except Kendrick. I that's why he's the one that pisses me off the most because I don't know what the fuck his point is. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck his point is. He's bohemian.

SPEAKER_13 2:00:28

That nigga just lives on his own time. That nigga just lives on his own time. Nigga drops whenever the fuck he wants. He comes out with songs whenever the fuck he wants. All that fucking mystique shit. He's more of a diva than fucking Drake.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:42

I'm sick of that mystique shit too. I'm gonna tell y'all that right now. All right, let me play you some of these fucking leaks, man.

SPEAKER_09 2:00:51

I flew a lot in January. That was my mistake. Show the too much too soon to hollow the call of the lake. Screenshot the view and posted it before I woke. I should have seen the signs with loneliness with black and vote. So everywhere they came, she switched up like the temperature. I'm reading through old text like some kind of sinister. Remind them of the man I was before I built me wall. Before I learn to catch your feelings, we're manifold. Marchin' back in Calabasas working on the album. Able to see always calm and every season.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:19

Okay, that's one. Holy shit. Yeah, no. And I don't I don't for whatever reason, like I love that. I feel like that one is not on the album, or the version of it that we hear is gonna be very different. These are leaks, okay? These are leaks, YouTube. These are leaks, Spotify. You imagine this shit is AI. Relax. If this is AI, it's amazing AI. Like, too good.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:49

That's why I can't be fucking with the leaks, bro.

SPEAKER_09 2:02:02

Wait a fumination. I just piss and pieces, broken promises, and I'm praying on my leases. I just take a minute with a few.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:18

Come on, come on, come on now. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:34

This whole plugins gonna be.

SPEAKER_09 2:02:47

I got everything I used to play for. When it gets things that's gonna play for stages, it ain't a place for that business when I tell you. I got it all but it don't mean something. And the ones who've got a sleep is this love and stream, love turn the leverage, real heads of taste. When you want to treat you like a blessing, when you dying if we get your presence, I've been trying not to let it get to me, but it's following when it's called sleep. Everybody wanna piece of me, but nobody really keeping me.

SPEAKER_08 2:03:21

I thought the money was fitted, I thought the following, but love the only thing missing, and I can't find it in written.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:32

Even if we get it, that one is not AI.

SPEAKER_08 2:03:34

That's no, that's not AI.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:36

This one is storytelling. That one is is Drake. That's Drake. This is James. You could just tell. But you could you could also tell everything.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:43

No, but bro, this is which one of them sounds like AI? Because I'm telling you, all of them, nigga, I'm listening to them, like, bro, the cadence, the everything. I'm like, this is Drake. No, I was just saying, like, remember when we heard remember when we heard push-ups? The first version of push-ups, everybody thought was AI and it was him. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:59

Because everybody was just like, yo, I can't believe he said how you mixed up with Sci-7.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:04

Nah, bro. This last one is I could tell, like, if this one is on the album, I bet you that part where he starts singing is gonna be very different. Because that it that to me was too basic for him to release it like that. Like, he's gonna change some of that. Like, I thought money would fix it. I think he'll he'll I think it'll even if it says like he'll do something, he'll layer it more. I'm like, that's too nigga, that's too simple. That's true. I do think it'll like clean it up, he'll clean it up, he'll do something, but like, but even that, yeah, like saying saying that like I thought money would fix it, I thought power would lift it. I thought like it's like nigga, he talking, like yeah, man. I'm saying so again, if this is what old Drake. If this is what we get, if this is what we get from the goal, Drake. If this for if this is what we get in on Iceman, man, if this is the the rapping, rapping, if this is finally that album where it's like, yo, I'm gonna freaking rap my ass off so that we can sell this point once and for all. Yeah, stop fucking with me on this rap shit. I don't care what battles I lost, I don't care what, bro. I am I'm a rapper, bro. I hope that I hope that this is the vibe we're getting. Cause this, this is, I'm telling you right now, these leaks is these leaks is going these leaks is going quadruple platinum in my phone, dog. Like that's why I've not stopped playing.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:22

Because you see how these shits is is all out and niggas is listening to it. Yeah. As good as it sounds, nigga, if it's on the album, this shit affects how the album is received. Because some of the niggas that go out and review the album would have listened to these shits for I don't see how long have those been out?

SPEAKER_02 2:05:41

Uh two days. So a day and a half, actually. So that means when the album comes out. No, because we're recording on Friday. So by the time you guys hear this, uh like two, two to three and a half days.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:51

So by the time the album comes out, niggas would have been sitting with those songs for already like two and a half weeks or whatever it is. So it's just like the shit don't hit the same as like, yo, bro, like those shits, like hearing it for the first time, like on May 15th, like if you're hearing that shit in its entirety, you're just gonna be like, yo, what the fuck? Like this nigga sounds like he's in his bag. But now, if you you're if you're hearing the shit on May 15th, but half of it or close to half of it is shit that has been in your phone for like two weeks and change. Not us, because you know, like I feel like we do a good job at being like objective, but like some niggas is just gonna be like, ah, you know, like, yeah, you know, though, oh, oh, that's been out or some shit. Because one of the podcasts I listen to is the JBP. And one thing they always say is like, oh yeah, no, this one was out, I heard it. And in my head, it's just like, nigga, that don't change from the fact that it's fire, nigga. Yeah, even if you heard it six months ago, it's still fire. But it's just like, nigga, if it isn't new for them, like you can't give a review on something like that.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:48

People like to feel like it's all in the moment, like, okay, this is this is his feelings right now. And if they think it's fire now, six months ago, then it was from six months ago. He maybe doesn't necessarily still feel this way today.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:58

Here's what I will say And I that's why I feel like we because I feel like the leaks is him, like he has to be a part of it. No, no, he's a part of it. No way artists of your stature is still falling victim to leaks.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:08

Ah man, listen, I get it, I get it with some of the like lower level artists. Maybe they can still get that shit off. Drake is um Drake is not still getting that shit off, in my opinion. Like, Drake, if a Drake leak comes out, Drake press the button. Like, I'm sorry. We're not we're not getting Drake vocals if Drake is not pressing the button in 2026. So, and here's what I will say is that over the over the years, I'd say the last five years for sure, five, six years, whenever we do get the Drake leaks, they're not, they're they're not most of them don't end up on the actual project, and they're not the best songs on the actual project. We oh the leaks that we get are like they end up being like the lower level shit. He doesn't leak the best shit on the project. That's why hearing these leaks got me charged the fuck up. Because I'm like, bro, if you throwing these away two weeks before the album drops, like, yeah, let me just let these niggas hear a little something. You know what I'm saying? Let's let's leak these so let niggas know a little bit. If you leak in this, that means that you have a confidence. Yo, if you leak in this, I don't I mean I'll play it.

SPEAKER_13 2:08:17

I'll play it.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:20

Nah, he was trying to get you back. I'm like, because we we say take a meek to go pissed.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:25

I mean, if you if you leak in this, just sounded crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:29

I mean, I mean, I if you I my shit shoots out. I ain't your shit leaks out? Is that what you're saying? I mean, that's what you shoot, my shoot is shoot. My shoot is shoot, man. Kevin Durant. But um, yeah, bro, that's what I'm saying. Like, if this is the shit that we're hearing two weeks prior, and he's confident to let this out, and that means that the shit that's actually on the it got, I mean, it has to be. It has to be that heat rock, and that's what everybody's saying. But granted, the ones who are saying it are people who are Uber loyal to Drake, and obviously that's that would be the case because the only people who he's letting hear any of this are people who are Uber loyal to Drake. But they're all saying that like he he's about to do his big one with this project. I mean, Maul, Maul's been going crazy. Axe's been going, they're like, yo, this, I'm telling you, this he about he's about to do his big one with this album, man. Just be ready. Axe said to he sent out a tweet today, he's like, yo, pay attention, be alert. So I got everybody thinking that within the next week or so we're gonna get uh the last single? No, the last the last episode of uh the Iceman um streams. Uh and subsequently, I maybe maybe a single. I was gonna say subsequently, I was thinking a single will probably be attached to. Is it even worth it at this point? I don't think a single is worth it at this point because it's not enough time to cook. The album is two weeks away.

SPEAKER_03 2:09:55

But what I think will happen is And I think what Did I Miss is gonna be is probably he'll probably put that on there. Yeah, no, I think what I think what did I miss?

SPEAKER_02 2:10:03

I think I think what did I miss will do the single, we'll be will cover those single purposes. I wonder if he still throws the central seat one on there because I remember that one not doing as well performance-wise, even though I like the song, but hey, it is what it is. Um, but yeah, so look out for that, man. I don't know if we get the next IP the next Iceman episode this weekend. If we do, we we were actually recorded on Friday this time. So if it if it comes out Saturday or Sunday or whatever, that's why we didn't talk about the episode because we recorded before. But um, they're saying that that's eminent, that that last episode is coming out soon. And what he might do is we might just get more of the music on the Iceman episode, but it won't be available on DSPs. So some of these leaks, that's what I'm thinking too, is that with some of these leaks, I'm like, okay, we probably about to hear like fuller versions of the leaks on the Iceman episode. And this probably isn't the album. They they maybe don't all make the album or whatever, but like, yeah, man. And it's still like national treasure, like, we we still haven't heard that song in its entirety. That's that sounds like one of the best Drake songs ever. And we haven't heard that shit in its entirety. We heard the beat in one of the earlier Iceman episodes, then we heard a leak of some of his vocals on it. We haven't heard the whole song. Like, honestly speaking, I never do this, but like when that album comes out, if there's a song in that track list that says National Treasure, I'm skipping everything and going straight to that. I if that song is on this album, I need to hear that song first. That's how good I think that song can be. But um, yeah, man, I think we did it. I need to hear how he thought money would fix it. I think you know. I think you know I'm still trying to make some money, man. I think you know how he thought money would fix it, man. Throwing money.

SPEAKER_13 2:11:43

I think freaking this album is gonna be amazing. I'm excited for it. I just hope it's not more of the same techno bullshit that he did. You don't understand the trauma that I have. Like, I from honestly. Honestly Nevermind. Nigga. That was what the album was called?

SPEAKER_11 2:12:04

Honestly Nevermind, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 2:12:07

And what's the one with all the girls, like the emojis?

SPEAKER_02 2:12:10

Certified.

SPEAKER_13 2:12:11

Certified Lover Boy. That's another one, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:13

Oh, I like CLB.

SPEAKER_13 2:12:16

I can't.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:16

CLB, oh, Champagne Poetry.

SPEAKER_13 2:12:19

The way that shit that has that album, that album fucking opens, right? There's a couple songs on it. Champagne Poetry. That shit, oh man. There's a couple songs on it.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:27

Oh, it's another one, T S U or T or Yeah, bro. He got a couple. Let me pull up a track list. But it's like Certified Love of Boy Certified Pedophile. Wah wah wah wah wah. Champagne Poetry. Poppy's Home, I don't like. The Girls Want Girls with Lil Baby, I like. In the Bible, not so much. Love All with Jay-Z, not my favorite Jay-Z and Drake song by any stretch. Yeah, that shit was lit down. Fair Trade with Travis Scott was good. Uh Way Too Sexy. That was that was kind of the one that like blew up. Whatever. I don't love that song like that, but it's cool. TSU, I fuck with. In too deep. In too deep with future, I fuck with. Pipe Down, I like. Yeah. Oh, that's my shit. I gotta play a little bit of that. I'm sorry. Oh my god, Yebba. Love it. Just love it, man. Uh Yeah, but that would do. No friends in the industry. That's my shit. Yeah, I'll fuck with that. Knife talk is uh I gotta feed the streets. Yeah, niggas like niggas like knife talk. I don't uh I don't love it, but it's not a bad song. No, I don't really like that song.

SPEAKER_03 2:13:32

Yeah, poppy's outside. And he got the double law, droppy outside. Check the weather and it's getting real oppie outside.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:40

It's good, it's a good song. It's just not one of it. 7am on Bridal Path, also cool. Like, don't love it. Race My Mind is nice. Fountains with Thames. Good song. Sick of Thames, man. Get along better. Not my favorite. You only live twice with Lil Wayne and Rick Ross. I mean, come on, you know, you know, you know what that's about. Uh fucking fans, okay. The remorse. The remorse. Oh man. We talked about that.

SPEAKER_09 2:14:06

All the nice chugs was pulling up where I need a man. I was just telling y'all about these outros.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:12

Yeah, brother. Yeah, brother. He does it. Yeah. He does it. The outro the outro on Iceman. I'm already.

SPEAKER_13 2:14:19

Oh man. I bet you National Treasure is the outro. You're reading, you're reading all those songs. You're reading the now. I was like, wait, time out. That album was okay. It wasn't bad. So what the fuck was that? Wait, for all the dogs, maybe you didn't like?

SPEAKER_03 2:14:32

I gotta go, I gotta go back and maybe it's the 21 Savage collab. Nah, nah.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:37

Her loss? Her loss goes crazy. Nah, I like that one. I fuck with that too. Let me ask you this. I never I never asked. I mean, we can finish after this one, but uh her loss versus what a time to be alive.

SPEAKER_11 2:14:48

Nah, what a time is just it's timeless.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:51

Okay. No, because I've seen I've seen some discourse about that. And more people than I expected actually pick her loss.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:58

I think Drake was bet was better on her loss than he was in What a Time to Be Alive, because I feel like he kind of had to.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:07

But future was better than Future was better than 21.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:10

I feel like future is better at what he does than 21 is at what he does. Like, and that I guess that's just my personal opinion. I don't think I can listen to a few 21 songs. I don't know if I could let sit through a 21 savage.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:23

You want to talk about something crazy, bro? I was looking for certified lover boy, and a song came up by artist real boston Richie. The name of the song is Certified Dripper.

SPEAKER_10 2:15:38

I gotta play this.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:39

Yo, before we yo.

SPEAKER_10 2:15:41

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:47

Imagine this is just that gets a high show exclusive. Real rich nigga.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:57

That's liberalism right there.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:06

I'm gonna save this nigga.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:08

Hey, hey, real boss to Richie, I'm saving this motherfucker. That shit's trying to happen. Nah, nah, nah.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:12

I went to I wanted to ask y'all before we get out of here. Like, who y'all think that's over? No, no, real quick.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:18

I'm fucking with your fucking book.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:19

Who y'all think win in the verses between French Montana and Rick Ross?

SPEAKER_02 2:16:22

Yeah, man, that shit came out of nowhere. That shit came out of nowhere. And to me, initially, I'm like, this is such a weird battle. It is.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:30

Because in my mind, not not weird, because they they cool. So I just cool, but I mean, yeah, but the time the timing is. I mean, the timing of it. Neither of them really have anything out to promote, so it's just like they're just doing it whatever. Well, I mean, they're trying to get hot right now.

SPEAKER_13 2:16:45

Look, I just think Rick Ross has a lot a larger catalog. He got a that's that's the problem.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:50

It's a I don't think I got New York bias, bro. I think French got too many hits. But for me, like he got too much shit that I'm just like, yo, that's fire. Like the fucking, like the Coke Boys tapes and fucking mac and cheese. But again, that's shit that I think is fire. I I don't know if like the rest of the world even.

SPEAKER_13 2:17:08

It's hard to take away from nothing. I like French.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:10

I I think it's just yeah, but a lot of those things, a lot of those songs gotta be. So what happens if he plays that or stay scheming? When you talk about the Coke Boy shit, like that shit is not gonna play as well nationally. Generally, uh for him to win, like you gotta like unforgettable with Sway Lee, gotta get played. Stay scheming. It's a Drake song, gotta get played. Rick Ross also played. Or Rick Ross is on there. Pop that Rick Ross is also on there. Yeah, I'm just like, what happened? But these are French Montana songs, though. Both of those? Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah, pop that. Pop that is off. Pop that is definitely a song. Pop that is off of Excuse My French. And stay scheming is is is uh Oh no, wait, no. Stay scheming is a Rick Ross song? Is it fuck no?

SPEAKER_03 2:17:59

French is like the last verse. You I you forget that he's on stay scheming. Fuck no.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:03

Is Rick Ross? Yeah, it's a Rick Ross song. Stay scheming. Yeah, stay scheming. Yo, that's crazy. I always thought of Stay Schemin' as a French as a French Montana song.

SPEAKER_13 2:18:14

But also if he plays like hustling. Like, what is like hustling was at the time.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:19

Nah, is that is that Rick, is that Rick Ross? When he's when if he goes back into that bag with uh what's the name of the niggas that produced all that shit? What? Not 808 Mafia. I'm talking about the I think I'm big Meach. Larry Hoover.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:33

Oh, that's that sounds like that. Hallelujah. Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:37

He was going nuts. Those girls Lex Luger? Nah, let me pull this shit up because it's gonna piss me off. See, this is this is why I was saying, because then the nerd in me is like, nope, you gotta fucking every day, every day, every day I'm hustling. You gotta fucking you gotta fucking name these.

SPEAKER_13 2:19:09

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_11 2:19:10

But yeah. I don't know. It's gonna be an everyday hustle. Yeah. That's my shit, nigga.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:18

I think I think low key, I think low key, it's it's gonna be it's gonna be an interesting. I think it's gonna be an interesting versus. And I'm I'm interested. I'm really interested to see what happens with this one.

SPEAKER_13 2:19:30

And if he and if he ends up freaking uh doing devil in a new dress, even though it didn't it ain't his song. Yeah, he can't he can't pull that off.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:40

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_13 2:19:41

But niggas be doing it, nigga. I know I know they'll be pulling up their features.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:45

There's no there's no rules, right? There's like it feels like there's no rules to it. But out of the two of them, I think the one who would suffer the most from features. I'm on that song too, is is French. Because there's there's some big French ones, and Rick Ross is a part of them. But Rick Ross got a lot of lot of them that here's the you wanna know the funniest thing to me about it though, is how important Drake is to both of them niggas. You know what I'm saying? So, and both of you kind of got some shady shit with Drake. So, y'all about to get up on his verses and play them Drake songs or what?

SPEAKER_13 2:20:17

Yeah, but once this shit ends, nigga, I'm gonna start listening to which songs because nigga I was just looking through this nigga, like New Flame, Rick Ross is a part of that. I'm on one, he's a part of that. Yeah, uh freaking uh Aston Martin music. Not a Drake, a lot of Drake. Lord knows?

SPEAKER_02 2:20:34

Lord knows it's it's Lord knows is a point. Lord knows is a point, but yeah, man, I don't know. BMF BMF is it that but that's him, so I mean I always forget that Styles is on there, but then I heard his fourth something something oh is in the kilograms. I'm like, oh shit, yeah. Styles. Oh, the devil's a lie?

SPEAKER_13 2:20:54

What the fuck does it be? Oh, yeah, Rick Ross.

SPEAKER_10 2:20:56

Motherfucker, because the devil is alive, nigga. French French got some shit.

SPEAKER_13 2:21:01

Nigga, I know, I know.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:03

French got some shit. He's underrated, man. This this dude. This nigga's featured on so many fucking songs, and then he also got that new shit that went deaf on the bitch. That shit go crazy. I got a chopper in the car. Somebody died.

SPEAKER_03 2:21:20

Ever since you left me.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:22

More money, more car. This is that's a slap. That motherfucker, that's a slap. My god, is that not a slap, bro? He got he hit one with that, I'm telling you. And we already said unforgettable, unforgettable goes crazy. Um, no stylist. That's his song, even though Drake is featured on it, but there's no Rick Ross on that one. And no stylus goes crazy. No stylus is fire. I'm telling you, bro, he got, yeah, man. French, French got uh, ain't worried about nothing. 2013, bro. That doesn't feel like it was 13 years ago, bro.

SPEAKER_13 2:21:55

But that shit was nigga came out 2006.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:58

13 years ago, bruh. 20 years, that's fucking nuts, bro. Nuts. Hustling, hustling, yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_13 2:22:06

This should be good. Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking of. Yeah, man, I tell you. Niggas say you be a McDonald's worker, this song comes on. You just start going crazy in that bitch. Yeah, he said, every day I'm hustling. But yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:25

I I rewatched uh I forgot which one it was the other day. The one we got the green on. It's that one. It's that one, it is that one, yeah. Oh no, no, but then I ended up switching to to Kevin Hart. Um I think it was seriously funny. I forgot.

SPEAKER_13 2:22:39

I think that's the funny shit. Nigga goes like, yo, you be working in McDonald's and you just there flipping burgers, and all of a sudden that song's like every day I'm hustling. Yo, his face nigga said, every day, every day, that shit, that shit was good.

SPEAKER_11 2:22:55

That shit was funny as fuck, bro.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:57

Yeah. Um, all right, ladies and gentlemen, this has been episode 27, if I'm not mistaken. Yep. I never I never welcome I never welcomed them to episode 27, but I will I will, you know, say bye uh from from from the most recent episode. Let me just double check that I'm saying the words. Yeah, 27. 27 is the one. So, yeah, man, this has been episode 27. We will see y'all for episode 28 um next week, man. Holler at y'all. Remember, like we always say, man, support is free. When you see the reels, like them bitches, comment them. Retweet, retweet them. I mean, repost them shits, put them in your story, would be nice. Um, engagement, baby. Engagement. Engagement is key. And I'm gonna tell you a lot of people that listen to the fan, to the to the fan. A lot of guys listen to the pod, be engaging like crazy with my other shit, but then don't engage with the clip from the pod. Like, engage with the clip from this pod, please.

SPEAKER_13 2:23:52

Appreciate it. Yo, shout out to Macho Man Randy Savage.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:56

Oh, yeah, Macho King. Macho Macho Macho King is one he engaged with everything, man. I already bought the axe, my brother. And Uncle Dom.

SPEAKER_13 2:24:04

When I go to jail, don't worry, I won't name you.

SPEAKER_00 2:24:08

I'll holla nigga.

SPEAKER_13 2:24:14

That nigga's funny. Nigga dead told me. Oh, Macho King. Oh, the name of it, right? Nigga said by this tomahawk. Yo, they got that ball that shit. I gotta