Episode 28 - "Stay on that side"

Happy Mothers Day to all the GOATs!! This week we covered the NBA Playoffs and the Knicks current dominance in the Eastern conference semis. We discussed the Versuz between Rick Ross and French Montana before reacting to Ross's comments after the event. We finish with comments on Alofoke vs Speed and the botting controversy after their joint stream this past week.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:03

Fellow Americans, it is with the utmost pride and sincerity that I present this recording as a living testimony and calculation of history in the making during our generation. Allow me to reintroduce myself.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

My name is The Universe is predicated on the duality of chaos and order. Without these opposites to define each other, it is impossible for life to exist in any dimension. Therefore, we should accept both chaos and order as equally real and necessary.

SPEAKER_12 0:37

The yawning shit, you believe that shit? I know nigga. Like I didn't believe it, but I think I'm starting to believe that shit now. That shit might really be contagious.

SPEAKER_09 0:46

Nigga, every time I yawn and I hear somebody yawning, nigga, or see some nigga, I don't even need to, I just need to see them yawning. I yawn.

SPEAKER_12 0:53

I think that's what it is. Like you don't have to hear it. I think I think if you watch a yawn mute, like on mute, you would still yawn.

SPEAKER_09 0:59

And it's I remember when I was in seventh grade, I think it was.

SPEAKER_11 1:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:04

In our science class, they were talking about it, but I didn't pay enough attention to understand why. But they said it was a thing. It's like if one person yawned and you look at them, the next one does it. But it's like it's not in everybody, but uh but a person.

SPEAKER_12 1:19

But we do we do mimic shit. I know that. I remember that from science. Now that you bring up science class, I do remember learning that like our face, like our facial uh man fucking tired. Uh our face will mimic facial expressions of other people while they're talking, and we don't realize we're doing it.

SPEAKER_09 1:39

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_12 1:40

So like it's weird. Like I and it's true, like I've watched videos of like people talking to each other, like looking at each other, and like you see, like one is talking, and if you look at the other person, like their face is like almost like contorting to kind of look like the face that and they don't know that like you don't realize that you do it, like it's just it's a natural human thing. It's like the mimicry that we do as humans is wild.

SPEAKER_09 1:59

Like it's like when you're feeding your kid and you're trying to put the spoon in their mouth. Oh hell yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:04

Like when like when Gato every time Cado breastfeeds, like I want to get on the other tip. Yo, every time I'd be like, Yeah, man, that shit look good. Get up on there, man. Shit.

SPEAKER_11 2:18

Let's get this baby out of here, get this thing started.

SPEAKER_09 2:22

Am I the only one nigga when my wife is giving birth, nigga? I just be, cause they be exposed to shit. And then you be feeling, you'd be like, yo. I'd be like, yo, quick one. She's dying or she's like with the fucking labor pains, nigga, going through contractions and all that shit.

SPEAKER_12 2:39

I've had that thought. I've had that thought. Like, like if they say, like, if it ever got to that point where like they just told you, like, yo, she's not gonna make it, like, we gotta it's like in my head, I'm like, alright, so like if I know she's not gonna make it, like, what do I say to the doctor? Like, how do I how do I tell the doctor, like, could y'all like close her up and give me five minutes? Like, to be honest with you, I don't even need five minutes no more. Like, like if you could just set it up, and the way that this table is set up with her legs like that, like it's like you don't even gotta move that, but like, could you make this happen? Cause I need that one more go. I need that.

SPEAKER_09 3:14

I'd be feeling mad, mad fucking pissed, nigga, when the doctor just be coming in and just be like, oh, nigga, everybody just come in and think of my wife, nigga.

SPEAKER_12 3:23

Yeah, yeah, nigga. That shit is it's like, oh, yeah, that's the shit they don't tell you about.

SPEAKER_09 3:27

It's nigga, I'll be.

SPEAKER_12 3:28

Did your dad tell you about this shit before you went in there? Like, why niggas don't tell you about that? I'ma tell my son. Well, yeah. I'ma make sure that's one thing I'm not gonna forget.

SPEAKER_09 3:37

Nigga, everybody just like, oh mom, you're only five centimeters dilated. You see them take the finger about the bit yo bitch. Niggas come back, nigga, five minutes later. Oh mom, you're five centimeters. I said, bitch, that shit was five minutes ago. Yo, so this is that, oh no, it could change.

SPEAKER_12 3:54

Y'all not even talking to each other. Everybody just coming in here fingering her, nobody talking. Everybody just, nobody even communicating. You didn't have to come through this. Now I'm not gonna lie. The first time I went through that shit, nigga, like, I thought I was, and look, bro, I watched all the videos, I watched mad shit. Like, I was like, yo, I'm ready, I'm prepared, I'm whatever, right? Um, and then niggas just kept coming in. And the problem was it was the it was a dude. It was a dude. And like the issue, my issue was is like he comes in, and because I'm retarded, and I'm not bleeping that out, I look, I looked at his hands because this is this is how my brain works, right? And so I look at his hands and I re and I realized I was like, This motherfucker got big hands, bro. Like, I like and like God don't know what I'm doing. Like, I'm looking at his hands and I keep going like this, and she's like, What happened? What's right? I'm like, no, no, just pay attention. I'm like, and I'm sizing him up. I'm like, nah, this nigga got some big hands. And then like, I'm not gonna lie to you. Like, I'm sorry, I'm saying, I'm like, yo, he's going in there. I'm like, I hope, I'm like, is he using one or two? Because two is a lot, like two is two. I'm not gonna lie to you. Listen, I'm not a self-conscious nigga, but I'm gonna be real. Like, I was like, if he goes in there with two, he got me beat. I can't have I can't have this nigga doing that right now in front of me. In front of me, I leave the room. I can't do that. So I'm literally looking, and then like she like after like the third time, yo, she gonna kill me for this shit. But after the third time, like she was like, she was like, I don't know. I was like, nah, nah, nah, nah. Don't don't don't ever don't ever like you know, don't ever like get shocked, like, oh, it's too big. The fingers, like, don't do that. And I'm sitting right there, like you bucket, like, don't do that, bro. She literally told me she was like, nah, I'm gonna ask for a nurse, like like a like a like a woman, because I want an Asian nurse with little hands. You know what's crazy that she said, she said, I'm gonna ask for a nurse. I was like, he is a nurse. You know, I mean she's like, No, I mean like a real nurse. Like, I mean like so time out. So because he's a nigga, he can't be a real nurse. Like, so who is he? If he's not a real nurse, I need to know who the fuck he is.

SPEAKER_09 5:49

Because he came in here and touched you three times. Nigga, in the hospital, nigga be having janitors just coming and it's like, mom, that's it's wild, bro.

SPEAKER_12 5:58

Would you imagine like a janitor just like grab a white jacket on the maternity ward and just like popping into random rooms, like, all right, mom, let's check it out.

SPEAKER_09 6:06

Nigga, at Albert Einstein, nigga, the the the maintenance dudes are in scrubs, nigga. You don't know who the fuck be coming into the room. Then the hospital we go to now in Long Island, nigga, that the the the maintenance people nigga are wearing dickies, bro. So it's like now I know.

SPEAKER_12 6:22

I mean, yeah, if the maintenance niggas is wearing dickies, then they they look like they're doing a bit. You can tell. You're like, yo, if he comes in and he looks like he just came back from Rikers, he's probably doing maintenance here.

SPEAKER_09 6:33

I be uh nigga, after I remember one day, nigga, I went out to smoke, and I'm smoking, and there's a dude next to me in Scrubs. I was like, yo, I didn't know the nurses smoked. Like, you know, the health professors like, nah, nigga, I'm a janitor. I was at timeout. I was like, you gotta wear scrubs. Like, yeah, that's a part of the uniform. Uniform. I was like, oh no. Yo, these niggas wearing the same navy blue scrubs as the nigga who just went in there. Say, hey, my name is Norse, Nurse Derek.

SPEAKER_12 7:00

Nurse Derek. Tell you, I got your nurse, I got something for you, Nurse Derek. If your fingers is too big, you ain't touching my wife. That's and that's on GP. And that's on GP. I'm not playing with you niggas no more. These niggas coming here like niggas is chump. Like, nigga, I will fight with you after the baby's born. Like, I'm not stupid. I'm gonna make sure. I'm gonna make sure my baby is born and all of that. But as soon as all that shit is good, I'm gonna find you outside, my nigga.

SPEAKER_09 7:23

Like, let's do that. And niggas, like I said before, nigga, niggas just gotta be careful. Whenever niggas uh what's it called, go to hospitals, they gotta make sure that the niggas who actually aren't first of all, I I actually I should ask this, and maybe someone could answer.

SPEAKER_12 7:41

Why is my mother sending me pictures on Instagram? Like, yo, not even I'm not talking about like a real or somebody else's post. Like, no, it's a picture and send me a took a picture and DM me on Instagram, and it's just her smiling in a bonnet. Like, yo, Evo, what's up with you, man? Happy Mother's Day, Evo, happy Mother's Day to all the moms. Facts. They're hearing this the day after, but yeah. We should start with that, man. Some happy Mother's Day wishes to the moms in our lives. You could go first, all right?

SPEAKER_11 8:14

He said, uh He said, actually, nah.

SPEAKER_12 8:18

We celebrating Father's Day twice this year.

SPEAKER_09 8:23

Happy Mother's Day to all them moms out there, especially my moms, my wife, my mother-in-law, sister-in-laws, all them women out there that are in my life. You don't forget the comadres. Yeah, the comadres, the cousins, the sisters in community, all of them, all of them.

SPEAKER_12 8:42

Not all of them.

SPEAKER_09 8:47

We gotta be nice for for it's Mother's Day. Yeah, nah. Once a year is fine.

SPEAKER_12 8:52

You you you can be nice.

SPEAKER_09 8:53

It's a nigga said, yo, niggas, you gotta love at least once.

SPEAKER_12 8:58

Once a year, yo, that shit was hilarious, bro. Like, I'm not gonna lie, and this this is one of those moments where some of y'all hear shit and y'all like, I wonder, I wish I knew what the fuck they were talking about. If you really want to know, man, do a catechesis. Yo, it's open everybody. But like, yo, I'm little little parentheses, yo, your catechist pulling up to your Eucharist just for the vibes is hilarious. Like if niggas get a message like, yo, the catechist is coming to the youth, niggas, oh shit, the catacus coming to the youth. Niggas trying to get all buttoned up and get ready or whatever. You go, come to find out your catechists literally just pulled up for the vibes. Like, literally, like nigga had niggas is like, yo, announcements, niggas do the announcements. After the last announcement, everybody looking at your catechist, like, yo, and homie get up, pick up a guitar, like, yeah, yo, we finna, yo, we done, nigga, it's over. That's it. That's it. You know, it's fun. I'm telling you, nigga came through, gave an echo and shit. Like, he was there for the vibes, bro.

SPEAKER_09 9:46

Like, literally, like that. I haven't seen nigga ever. Bro, ever.

SPEAKER_12 9:52

I'll tell you one thing. That's what happened when you gotta do Eucharis with your community 50 days straight, and then you get tired of them niggas. You be like, you know what? I gotta see some communities this weekend. I don't know what to tell you. Yo, I'm not Saturday, y'all not gonna see me, bro. I gotta go visit some people. I got shit to do.

SPEAKER_09 10:06

I can't, like, nah, nigga. That shit had me dying. That nigga dead pulled up. I was there waiting. I was like, yo, nigga, I dad wasn't gonna go, nigga. Not because I was sick and nigga, this weekend was backlash, nigga. For WWE. Backlash. Nigga, so how was I you gotta do yours? At backlash.

SPEAKER_12 10:24

At backlash. Come on, Jada. You said you got the voice. Your daughters be like, why does daddy talk like it's a batman?

SPEAKER_09 10:35

Yo, nigga, that oh shit.

SPEAKER_12 10:38

I'm giving ankle on the podcast. Don't get hey, hey, ladies, relax. I'm married.

SPEAKER_09 10:43

Nah, nigga, that shit's amazing.

SPEAKER_12 10:45

Only the only people who get excited off an ankle is Muslims.

SPEAKER_09 10:51

Yo, nigga, when I was living in the projects, nigga, I remember one time, yo, we got we leave about to leave. I don't know where we were going. Might have been the Eucharist or some shit. Nigga, and I was a kid, and I was already scared because uh we it was RPT, nigga. Shit was always wild in that building. You would just see a random nigga just run down the hallway, nigga, and some nigga chasing him with a knife or some wild shit, a bat, whatever the fuck it was. But nigga, one time I go, my father was like, all right, come on, let's go. We all walked out, all of a sudden, nigga, the elevators were in the middle of the hallway. We made a nigga halfway down, all of a sudden we just saw this woman, bro, dressed in all black, nigga, face covered, nigga. All you saw was the eyes. Looking like a ninja. Bro, nigga. And then the wind nigga just uh from the elevator, bro, just fucking blew her whole vestment, nigga. Like, nigga, that shit look so wild. Nigga, I ran nigga. I was like, ah, el Diablo.

SPEAKER_12 11:51

Nigga, I ran, nigga, I ran for my goddamn driver. The devil being a Muslim woman is crazy.

SPEAKER_09 11:59

Nigga, I ran for my life, nigga. That shit. Bro. But I respect that, nigga. I think freaking.

SPEAKER_12 12:06

You gotta respect them, nigga. You any any any any person who could get through a New York summer wearing that shit, like, yo, no disrespect. Cause look, we are religious. I understand, like, you know, we all gotta do things for our faith, those of us who are faith people. But I'm gonna tell you right now, brother, like, if God knew what he was doing when he made me, because I could never have made it as a Muslim woman. Like, I could never have made, first of all, you're not talking to me like that. Like, that's that's that's one. You're not talking to me like that. Second of all, it's stinking here. Like, like it don't got why it gotta smell like this. It don't gotta smell like this in here. My nose is sensitive. I don't like that I wear mad cologne, nigga. I like to smell good. Three, it's hot, my nigga. Like, why in the world do I got to wear this for God to love me, bro? It don't make sense.

SPEAKER_09 12:53

Like, yo, they can't even show their hand, nigga. It just being gloves on.

SPEAKER_12 12:57

Yo, God, that's real faith, my nigga, because I'm telling you right now, my faith stops at that. If you tell me that for God to love me, I gotta wear that in the summertime, I'm atheist. Like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I can't, I can't do it.

SPEAKER_09 13:09

Nah, I think, nigga. I also I respect the nigga just because nigga, niggas don't want people looking at their wives. But I think it's only the married women.

SPEAKER_12 13:18

Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think so. But here's the thing. I'm not gonna lie, some of them, even though they got all that stuff on, you can still tell what it's hitting for. Like, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie to you. Listen, I don't want to be that guy, but I'm just saying, like, I've come across one or two where I'm like, mama, I I know, I can tell you got it under there. I'm not, listen, I'm married, I'm not looking, I'm happy, I'm good, I'm I'm I got enough at home. But like all I'm saying is I I could tell what that thing is doing under that thing. And yo, respect. Like, shouts out to your husband, real nigga. Like, nigga, that shit, nigga.

SPEAKER_09 13:50

I just imagine, nigga, my wife, some nigga, there've been times, nigga, she goes, nigga, to wake me up, hey, I'm about to go to the supermarket. Nigga, you imagine, bro, you knock the fuck out. And all of a sudden, your wife is all dressed up in the all black nigga, Batman, nigga. And then she just goes, hey, nigga, you just wake up and see somebody dressed in all, nigga, you think it's a robbery, nigga. Here's my thing.

SPEAKER_12 14:12

Is that my thing is like, all right, but if the Muslims were smart, they wouldn't even dress them like that. If you don't want people to look at your wife, just tell your wife to dress like a dyke.

SPEAKER_09 14:21

No, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_12 14:22

Like, it's a fact, like, bro, if you if you really want to, if you really want to protect your wife in terms of like lust and stuff like that, just tell your tell your wife to dress like young and me. Like, that's it, bro. Like, go ahead. Nah, nah, nah, nah. She said, that's not a good example. Why not? Because she's the perfect example of what I was just saying, nigga. She wears all them clothes, but I can still tell them things is thinging. I'm telling you right now. Like, is that yeah, but it's not hiding nothing.

SPEAKER_09 14:45

I don't know, bro. Like, when I saw her, I just thought she, like, I realized what she like, yeah, you you kind of saw, like, yeah, she got.

SPEAKER_12 14:53

I told my wife to her face, I said, babe, Billie Eilish, she got the cottles. And she was like, Why you talking about? I said, She got she got she got the thing, she got the same thing.

SPEAKER_09 15:04

She got him, she got him, she do, she do. Nah, nigga. I don't know. When I saw nigga, she looked too much like a nigga sometimes, nigga. And it's like, I get it, she doesn't want to be sexualized.

SPEAKER_12 15:14

A pretty a pretty nigga.

SPEAKER_09 15:16

She got the pretty face, nigga.

SPEAKER_11 15:18

Pretty ass nigga. That's one thing. If she a nigga, nigga, but she got the fucking. I ain't gonna finish it. I'ma press the button.

SPEAKER_09 15:24

I ain't gonna finish it off because I'ma press the button. Oh starting off this shit.

SPEAKER_12 15:33

Crazy nigga. See, this is what happens. This is what happens when you get when you get the two older niggas on the pot doing the pot. Y'all niggas is in for a treat, though. Watch. I'm telling you, we got a good episode for y'all. Don't even worry about it. But um, let me I let me I also want to shout out to the moms um who we know we just celebrated Mother's Day. Uh, shout out to my mother first, obviously. Wouldn't be here without you. A lot of my personality, people don't know this, I'll say it here. A lot of my personality that I get, I said it in a reel recently, but I get it from my mom. I get it from my mom. So, like, you know, my little sister, she always says that I bully her or whatever, but I don't. I don't bully her, and if I do, it's because I got it from my mother. Um, my mother's a my mother's the realest nigga that I know. Young evil. She's the realest nigga that I know. Like, that's why she was in the hood. You know what I'm saying? Like, my mother is a real project baby, and I love her for that because that's what she transmitted along with faith, which is crazy. Like, the juxtaposition of what my mother transmitted me. Like, she transmitted me the most hood crash-out parts of me, but also like everything that has to do with the faith. Like, it all balled into one. And then a little bit of bipolar, you know what I'm saying? Like just a little razzle-dazzle, a little bit of bipolar disorder on there. It's okay, it's it's cool. I love you. And then my my wife, obviously, who does a fucking bang up job with the five kids that we have, the one in heaven. I mean, I couldn't have asked for a better partner, you know, to do this, do this life with. And I think, you know, honestly, like that's that's what marriage is, man. You pick you picking somebody to do life with, man. And I I picked, I think I picked well. She's a great mother. She gives her entire life for these for these kids, man. She wakes up early, man, every single fucking day. She cooks, she cleans, she fucking works, she does everything for these fucking kids, man. She does. And I know right now, you know, it might feel like sometimes they don't they don't know it, they don't appreciate it, they're ungrateful, but I promise you, one day they will. One day these kids are gonna realize the mother that they have because you really you really knock that shit out of the park. And I do want to send a special shout out to uh what my sister Mary, who's also a mother, so God bless, happy Mother's Day. But also I want to send a special shout out to my older sister, Nene, who also raised my brother and I. Um and I think my mother herself would say that she wouldn't have been able to do it without Naomi. That's why I always refer to Naomi as my second mother because she changed my diapers, she did homework with me, she cooked dinner for me, she showed up to my school shit, showed up to my sports shit. Nobody saw me play baseball more than Naomi, which is crazy. Like, I think that's wild. Like, I can't say my first of all, my dad never saw me play baseball. Like, my dad found out that I was good, my dad found out that I was good at baseball after I stopped playing. That's when he was like, and he came up to me, he's like, So you were pretty good.

SPEAKER_09 18:32

I was like, motherfucker! Nigga, that's like my dad, nigga, when he saw the scholarships, because like why why you have why you have why you got in the scholarship? I was like, because I'm good. He was like, Really? I was like, yes, nigga. I thought he was like, I thought you were lying.

SPEAKER_12 18:51

I'm telling you, that's one of the funniest things of my life. I was like, yo, this nigga never even seen me play one time. But um, I don't even know, to be honest, I don't know if I got it from him, man. I give I give my Dominican side all the credit, but it could have been my Puerto Rican side, who knows? But yeah, man, shout out to Naomi, and then like like G said, man, shout out to all the mothers that we know, all my comadres, you guys are amazing. You know what I'm saying? We don't choose, we don't choose bad ones, but we do choose baddies. You know what I'm saying? Y'all all mommy baddies, all right? You heard it here first. It's no disrespect to y'all husbands. I hope nobody get mad. Um, but yeah, man, I I fuck with y'all. Y'all all killed, kill this motherhood shit. Y'all make y'all, y'all, y'all make motherhood look good, man. Honestly, I think that's the one thing that I can say about like the moms that I know in the community. Well, not I'm not all of them. But you know what I'm saying? The ones, you know, the ones, yeah, y'all know who I'm talking about. Y'all, you mothers out there, y'all make that shit look good. You know what I'm saying? Y'all fucking go out there, you get Don dolled up and shit, and you run around, you chase the kids, you grab them little pow pow if you have to, but you know, you still keep it cute, sis. You know what I'm saying? I fucks with y'all, you know what I'm saying? Y'all make motherhood look good. And for all the young girls out there, you know, looking, you know, looking at your futures and wondering like what I'm gonna do, things like that, whatever, just know that you can do you can do anything, all the plans that you have, you can do all of that shit. You really can, right? And you can have what these women have, right?

SPEAKER_09 20:16

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_12 20:17

And I think, you know, in and not to get not to get grouped in the same, in the same, uh, you know, in the same breath as Harrison Butker, because I know y'all ain't like when he said it. But what I will say, right, is that a lot of the women, from what I hear, right, in my experience, I'ma say in my experience, so y'all can judge me if y'all want, but you're gonna look stupid. In my experience, a lot of these women that I know will tell you the best thing that they have achieved is this, is this life and is that motherhood, man. They they they take that shit seriously. That's why Mother's Day is as big a deal as it is, and that's why, you know, Father's Day is like, you know, Juneteenth. Nobody, you know what I'm saying? It's like like it's like, and I'm not disrespecting Juneteenth. I'm just saying it is what it is. It's like you see how they put Juneteenth right by Father's Day because they was like, let's just put these two together because nobody gives a fuck. Like, literally, that's why they did it. Um, but yeah, shouts out to all the moms. We love y'all. Respect um grandmothers, you know, y'all be holding it down. Godmothers, you know, y'all hold it down. And yeah, um, now that that's out the way.

SPEAKER_09 21:17

Wait, hold up, nigga, because you you gave a real nice shout-out to your wife. If I don't do it, nigga, my wife is about to and your wife fights. Nigga. Oh, wait, hold on. No, no, she's compromised now though.

SPEAKER_12 21:28

You might get it for the next nine months. Hey!

SPEAKER_09 21:31

Nigga Jedi, I said we back up.

SPEAKER_12 21:33

Tut the streets, we back up.

SPEAKER_09 21:34

Yo, listen, Rebecca Bex, my love, listen. I just wanna say happy Mother's Day. I probably already told you yesterday, but well, probably I won't say it, but maybe. I don't know, who knows? It depends on what I get inspired to do. But nah, like C said, it's a one of the things I've realized in this time of being married. I wouldn't be the man I am today if it wasn't for you. That and I love you. You I know a lot of times you doubt yourself. You doubt uh that you're that what you do isn't enough, and you're doing more than what other women are doing, and that I know for sure. It's like to raise freaking five kids, now you're pregnant. It's like uh expensive.

SPEAKER_12 22:27

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_09 22:29

Oh, that's not the one I wanted to.

SPEAKER_12 22:31

The nigga just said the pregnancy was a joke. I didn't want to do that. I didn't want to do that one either. I'm gonna try this one. Damn, we are not that's what I wanted to do. An applause for the pregnancy. Nigga said, hey, yo. An applause for the pregnancy.

SPEAKER_09 22:51

All right, continue, my brother. My bad. Nah, just, you know, you make it, like she said earlier, you do make it look easy. You know, I I got to experiment a little of what it takes to hold down a home, and I wouldn't want to do that shit another fucking second. It's like that shit was hard. It's a lot. And I don't know how the hell you wake up every day, how the hell you do it every day. But it's like, it's a it's those things that goes completely under the radar and no one ever fucking you might feel like you're not appreciated. The kids might make you feel like you're not appreciated. I might make you feel like you're not appreciated, everyone around, but you are. And all of us are freaking alive today, all of us are freaking happy, all of us are healthy, all of and it's because at the end of the day, you do your part so fucking well. And while I'm here, shout out also to our other co-host's wife, Rosie. Happy Mother's Day, Ash, happy Mother's Day. Love you guys, yes, sir, and keep being the amazing women y'all are.

SPEAKER_12 23:54

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. One time for the mamas. One time. Always be the girl in my life. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_10 24:05

Mama.

SPEAKER_12 24:06

I gotta call my mom. Uh-uh. Call your mom. I haven't spoken to her in three weeks. Everybody call your mother. I know you said happy mother's day yesterday, but call her back. Say, yo, baby, I love you. I need you. You know what I'm saying? Please. That's another kind of mama. I'm in the crib. I'm in the crib. I'm married now. But this I can't do it with this lady, man. Mama, I used to judge you, now I get it. Nah, I know yeah. I used to judge you, now I get it, man. You was you was right. Shouts out to you.

SPEAKER_09 24:36

We love you, mama. Shout out to all them mamas. The single ones, the married ones, the widowed ones. Facts.

SPEAKER_12 24:45

If you can't call your mother no more, pray, pray to her. Big facts. That's a fact. And I ain't mean a damn, somebody lost their mind. But it's time to talk my shit. It's time to talk my shit. It's time to talk my shit. And Spotify, YouTube, all y'all can hate, I don't give a damn right now. You know what I'm saying? I just don't care. This is not for the Yankees. We don't care about them right now. But shout out to them too. But they to the side. The match. OD to the side. We praying for y'all. I know it not.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

I'm from New York.

SPEAKER_10 25:20

This is for the garden. That's this next time if you're gonna do it. Turn your speakers the fuck up. What if the Philly and make that shit the castle, nigga? Fucking you talking about. That's for you, Philly. That's for you, Philly. 76s.

SPEAKER_12 25:44

That's for you. It's no longer for 50. We talking to all you Philly niggas. Fuck Philly.

SPEAKER_10 25:49

Harry Smacky Ho.

SPEAKER_09 25:52

I love 50.

SPEAKER_10 25:53

Joan B the Who? Paul George Who? Paul George. Your daddy. My brother retired. VJ Edgecomb.

SPEAKER_09 26:04

VJ Edge. You're the young I like VJ. I might be. I like you. You are like you get traded over here.

SPEAKER_12 26:11

That nigga's name is VJ Edgecomb. Listen, I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm done with the 76 to talk. I'm done with the talk for the East.

SPEAKER_10 26:22

It's off fucking year. New York Knicks is off fucking year. I don't wanna hear nothing. You heard? I don't want to hear nothing. Okay? We go into the finals.

SPEAKER_12 26:30

What happens then? Hey, hey, I don't care.

SPEAKER_04 26:33

Until I get real ignorant.

SPEAKER_12 26:35

I get real ignorant. Shout out to the Knicks. You hear me? 3-0 lead. 3-0 lead in the comp in the conference semis over the 76ers, man. We're gonna end this shit soon. Okay, but I had to do that. Spotify, YouTube. Y'all do what y'all do. I don't care. I don't care. I had to do it, okay? The Knicks is not playing, and neither is the pie show. You understand?

SPEAKER_09 26:56

Nigga, that shit was fucking um like to see the Knicks play like that, nigga. That shit is just fucking beautiful, nigga. It's like it they didn't let go off the guys. They didn't take their foot off the guys. I mean, they they was just fucking, yo, all right, y'all went up. It was 9-0. Then all of a sudden, nigga, like we, like y'all niggas just starting to run. It seems like y'all starting to run away with a lead, but we didn't give up. Hell no. There was no giving up. And we did it without OG. Exactly. Without OG, nigga.

SPEAKER_12 27:30

Like, if you can't beat us without OG, you can't fuck with us, gang.

SPEAKER_09 27:33

Nigga, I'm telling y'all, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 27:35

It's one of the best two-way players in the game, brother. It was the first time that and I would sit him again for game four if I was the Knicks. I would too. I would sit him again. Give him an extra game. We up three-nothing. Worst case scenario, you come back to the crib up three-one and close it out there.

SPEAKER_09 27:51

And what was damn, nigga. It's been only a couple months. Not a couple, but more than a couple months. But I forgot already that Knicks' old coach's name. I was about to say that Tony. Thibodeau. Yo, oh, Dan. Tony is. You threw it back. You threw it back. Yo, Thibodeau. From the Dimsdale Thibodome, Dimmer Dome, whatever the fuck that shit was. And fairly odd parents. You see what the fuck the team. Nigga, do you know what the fuck it is? Do you see what the Knicks could do when you actually use the bench? You didn't want to use Shamit. And that nigga right now is cooking. That nigga looks like a goddamn old all-star.

SPEAKER_12 28:31

Once again, shout out to my Muslims.

SPEAKER_09 28:33

Nigga, it's like, look at uh look at uh uh uh Jordan Clarkson coming off the bench. Look at what the fuck uh uh what's this nigga Jose Alvarado does off the bench. Yes, that's right.

SPEAKER_12 28:44

New York, yo, New York, stand the fuck up. What did you talk? Yo, son, you could get robbed at the garden now. Nigga, that man, what's the nigga's name?

SPEAKER_09 28:53

The white boy.

SPEAKER_12 28:53

Brought that killing back. Yeah, yeah. Whatever his name is, don't matter, bro.

SPEAKER_09 28:57

We cooking. Nigga, that nigga, bro.

SPEAKER_12 28:59

It's our white boy better than yours. Fuck is you talking about? I'm not playing with y'all no more, bro.

SPEAKER_09 29:04

That nigga dropped 44 in the G League, nigga. Straight up, son. Thought shit was sweet. Nigga, more than Brawny, nigga. Brawny's bummer.

SPEAKER_12 29:12

Thought shit was sweet. I ain't playing. Listen, and Detroit, we looking at y'all. We watching y'all. We know y'all think y'all coming up in here to bully nigga. Nah, y'all ain't coming here to bully niggas, man. We ain't on that time, all right? We ain't on that time, okay? Okay? Jose Alvarado's on the team now. You know what I'm saying? We got a real Puerto Rican New York nigga on the team now, okay? You heard?

SPEAKER_09 29:30

And I'm gonna say, I don't even give a fuck about Detroit. I want to play Detroit so that niggas be like, oh, y'all niggas had an easy coming uh going to the NBA final. I ain't no easy nigga.

SPEAKER_12 29:38

Yeah, 76s are good. Coming into the series, all we kept hearing about was, oh, you know, the guard play. They got two guards who are gonna give Brunson trouble because Brunson can't defend and all a lot of trouble we had. A lot of trouble.

SPEAKER_09 29:51

Then that's the thing, nigga. And if uh Zay, I mean Mikhail Bridges continues playing the way he's playing. My nigga Zay, bro, that nigga's cooking niggas.

SPEAKER_12 30:00

Yeah, nigga, Zay going crazy. Yo, shout out to Zay. That nigga sick as a dog right now for all the dogs. That nigga sicky sick. Nigga. And Momo, Momo's still on paternity.

SPEAKER_09 30:09

Um You're not getting your pay this week, so sorry, brother. Damn.

SPEAKER_12 30:13

My nigga Abel. I saw a picture of Abel. Ashley posted a picture of Abel on the gram the other day, man. I was about to say you haven't seen him yet. My nigga the weekday. My nigga the weekday, man. He's a cute kid. I gotta go out there, I gotta meet him, man. Gotta meet him. I gotta let him just, you know, let him hear my voice so he know what's up with niggas. Straight up. Yeah, because I want him to know where he got his middle name from. That's the thing. He don't know yet.

SPEAKER_09 30:34

Nigga, I still don't know the meaning of that name.

SPEAKER_12 30:39

Agapito? Yeah, nah.

SPEAKER_05 30:40

It's uh basically it's a saint.

SPEAKER_12 30:44

Nah, my nigga the weekday though. Shout out to him. Yo, yo, yo, yo, breaking news, breaking news.

SPEAKER_11 30:50

Moise finally heard the episode from three weeks ago. Yo.

SPEAKER_12 30:57

It's my$20. Yo, you finally heard the episode from three weeks ago. That's crazy. But let me tell you this. I'm gonna tell you this. Don't sleep on the pie show, baby. We are moving. We are moving. Our numbers are starting to move. Our numbers are starting to move. That's it. Our numbers are starting to move. And it's everything that we've been saying, bro. The support, all of that shit. We appreciate y'all. We had two reels last week, two reels last week. That if you put them shits together totaled over 20,000 views. 20,000 views on two clips. One of them shits got over 300 likes, over a hundred comments, almost a hundred plus shares. Like, yo, we doing shit now. Now. I want to shout out to the people that kept pushing me to do the shit that I've been doing, because that shit is working. My nigga, like lit legit, bro. The engagement and all that shit, I know. I'm like, yo, this shit is working. I I hit up Zay a bunch of times this week. I was like, bro, I can't believe this shit. I was like, it's literally just like that easy. Like it's been, and it's it's that easy, but it's not easy. But when I saw what when I saw the numbers that our shit was doing this week, I was like, alright. Gotta keep going. Gotta keep going, man. It's working. We gotta keep doing we gotta keep doing this shit, bro. Cause like, I think that that's what it is at the end of the day, is just you gotta, you gotta, you gotta fucking just be yourself, be consistent, and you will see the results. And that's what it is. I mean, honestly, like, people don't know this, but a lot of a lot of stuff I'm working on, and a lot of the newer stuff that you're seeing, you know, me post or whatever, is to drive the engagement of my account because that's the main account where you're gonna get a lot of the content that I'm doing. But one of the biggest pieces of content that I do is this at the Pi Show, and I want this to do well, I want this to succeed. So it's like I gotta put my best foot forward, right? So that's what I've been doing. And to see that shit start working the way that it has, it's like, alright, nigga, we locked in now. We just getting started, man. It was this episode 28. This is the episode number after the championship that the Yankees ain't never gonna get. Um, so straight up, man, we're gonna keep it working, we're gonna keep pushing.

SPEAKER_09 33:19

And if I'm alive, I'm gonna do everything in my power. I already spoke to freaking Ice and because there's a few niggas on the Yankees that need to be deported. But that's not here nor there right now.

SPEAKER_12 33:31

Nah, we can't do that.

SPEAKER_09 33:32

I mean, you could take you could take it. Where the fuck is Aaron Judge from? Aaron Judge is a big thing. He needs to go back.

SPEAKER_12 33:36

Aaron Judge is a black man. Aaron Judge is a black man. I'm telling you right now. He's he's a brother. Um but yeah, man, um, what was I thinking about? We're we're I don't know. Nah, we were talking about the Knicks. Yeah, man, nah, the Knicks, I think they I think they're gonna close this one out relatively soon in the next two games.

SPEAKER_09 33:54

And I think that's it. Nigga, it's closing. What is it, tomorrow? I think is the next game or Detroit.

SPEAKER_12 33:59

Detroit is I don't uh it's 2-1 right now, Detroit, Cleveland. I think Detroit's gonna win that series. What do you how do you think that one goes?

SPEAKER_09 34:07

I think Detroit, well, it depends. Because I also don't want to discount like Donovan Mitchell or James Harden. Like, because if James Harden, yeah, he went crazy today, boy. Because that's the thing. That's how they won today, James Harden. What the it's like I forgot who the fuck I was telling. It's like James Harden, bro, if you look at the way he plays, and I feel like that's the most annoying part, he just stands in one spot and doesn't move on offense. And I feel like if he were to move around and get himself open looks, nigga, that nigga would be destroying right now. But teams know. It's like, yo, Harden, once he's past that half court line, ain't much action gonna happen until he gets the ball. But it's like, yo, if he's if he gets it poppin', nigga, he starts fucking just moving around, scoring, nigga, that Cleveland is a very dangerous team. But I feel like these young niggas will close them out though. I feel like he gets too much. You think Detroit, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 35:04

I think Detroit got him too.

SPEAKER_09 35:05

I think Detroit got him.

SPEAKER_12 35:06

What about um so we got the Knicks, we got Detroit? What about in the West? The Lakers are down 3-0.

SPEAKER_09 35:13

So play the music. They're going home. It's over. LeBron retired.

SPEAKER_12 35:18

Hey, Momo, don't say I didn't tell you.

SPEAKER_09 35:20

Nigga, if they would have had Luca, don't say I didn't tell you. Luca would uh would have caused some problems.

SPEAKER_12 35:27

Luca would have been Luca would have added, because the way LeBron has been playing, plus Luca, I think that would have been a different story. But I will be honest with you, I think even against OKC, it's still too much. Let's be real. Today, they lost 131-108. Talk about, yeah, you're still talking about over a 20-point loss. So, like, yes, Luca would add help offensively, but he's still a defensive liability out there. OKC just has too much firepower, my brother.

SPEAKER_09 35:56

I feel like, I don't know. I I personally believe, like, going back to the Knicks, when I saw but seeing the way the Knicks have been playing, I think, not I think, I'm pretty sure we're gonna if we make it to the not if when we make it to the NBA Finals, it's gonna be a competitive ass game.

SPEAKER_12 36:17

Because it's like Oh no, I think I'm gonna just come out and say, I think the finals is gonna be OKC and us. And I think we are going to shock the world with how well we play OKC. Well, that's a fact. Because I think once it is set in stone that it's gonna be OKC and the Knicks, people are gonna be like 4-1 OKC or sweep or sweep or whatever. Like they're gonna disrespect the shit out of us, out of us because it's the Knicks, and that's what but I'm telling you, we are going to shock people. We are not leaving that finals without at least, and I'm saying at least two fucking wins. And and I'm telling you right now, if we get to three wins, that series is going seven. And if that shit goes seven, anything can happen.

SPEAKER_09 37:09

Oh, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_12 37:10

Anything can happen. I don't even want to let myself think about the possibility of the Knicks winning the finals because a lot of things will be bad. Okay. I would like the moment that that game goes final, I am walking outside of my house, I am jumping into my car, I am hitting the group chat with all of my niggas, and I'm telling y'all, yo, I will be at Madison Square Garden in 35 minutes. If y'all rolling, meet me there. I will let you know where I'm at, and I will be on a bender for 24 straight hours. All right? I'm down for that cause. Yeah, straight up. You understand? I've been waiting my whole life to see this shit. And it's probably. I've been waiting my whole life to see this shit. Nigga, if they win, this might be our only opportunity for you. Bro, I'm telling you right now, 24 hours, son. My wife already knows. I already had to talk with her. Listen, you're just gonna have to have to hold it down for that 24. You're not gonna hear from me, you're not gonna know what's up. You got my location until my phone dies. But just trust me, I will be back. I will be back, but I will be down there. Burning down this city, nigga. I will be down there on 34th Street hanging off a light pole like Spider-Man, brother. I don't care. You are probably gonna see me on Side Talk. I'm telling you right now. Shout out to Side Talk. It hit me up the other day. That shit was funny as hell, bro. I fuck with them niggas. Yeah, they was out in Philly too. Nigga. Real nigga, real New York shit. You know what I'm saying? Went to Yakrib with it. You know what I'm saying? We we in your house with it.

SPEAKER_09 38:26

This shit crazy as hell. And that's the other crazy part, nigga. You like you're watching the game in Philly, and the fans are New York fans. It's like yo, that's that's MSG South, brother. And niggas is talking about, like, I saw reports, oh, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_12 38:43

They was giving, they was donating tickets, they was giving tickets away.

SPEAKER_09 38:46

Nigga, I was uh y'all still ain't show up. Niggas said that they were gonna ban fans that are from New York and all this.

SPEAKER_12 38:54

When I found out they was giving tickets away, bro, I got I entered. I entered into this shit, yo. I use my I used my aunt's address. I was like, yo, nah, like I live in Philly.

SPEAKER_09 39:04

I was trying to be in there, bro. Nah, nigga, that shit, it didn't work out. It's like it's like I said, nigga, the Knicks look really like every and I know people, oh, Knicks fans probably they all I'm not probably Knicks fans have been saying that for the past couple of years.

SPEAKER_12 39:20

But this season the past couple of years, what what I've been saying is that we're working up to this.

SPEAKER_09 39:25

Yeah, this is this is a whole different kind of Knicks. This is like I'm not gonna lie, the first, what was it, two games against the Hawks, I was like, what the fuck is going on? But it was uh almost like that. They had to get that uh uh those jitters out, nigga, in order for them to fucking just go and you need that adversity early.

SPEAKER_12 39:46

I said the same thing in WBC. We did our preview on MYU at the WBC, right before that shit started. And I was like, I need DR to like lose a game in the group stage. I was like, I know they're gonna get out of the group stage, but I need them to lose a game in the group stage. I need them to face adversity before the elimination stage. It didn't happen. Yeah, and then when the adversity came, what happened? We folded. We folded. The Knicks faced the adversity in that first round. So like, yeah, like you, your backs were against the wall. They went, they they they were down what to one. Yeah, they went down to one. So, like, they faced the adversity already, and they came back, they won that, handled them. You know, Atlanta was talking crazy, and then we sent them back, like, yo, and yo, enjoy the strip clubs. Y'all don't even got money to go to Cancun, but just stay down. Y'all got Magic City, yappy. Sent them home. Now, Philly, hey, what's up? Philly cheesesteaks. Yo, enjoy them shits. You know what I'm saying? That's it. That's what y'all got. Y'all got Philly cheesesteaks and fucking Meek Mill. Like, I don't know what to tell y'all, bro, but it's it's clip for y'all. Y'all done too. And Detroit, it is what it is. Y'all got Motown, I guess. I mean, the Tigers, but you know, Scooba's on the IL, so it's not looking good for y'all. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. If y'all like hockey, shots up to that, I guess. But yeah, nigga, we doing our thing, man. They got Eminem. Who you got, who you got, yeah, but Eminem got a beard now. That nigga weird. Like, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_09 41:03

That shit is the weirdest shit in the world. Bearded Eminem is just like it looks like you know what a nigga put a fake beard, nigga, that shit look like pubes. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_12 41:12

And I think my thing with Eminem is that ever since he put on that little, that military hat, it's just like, bruh, like, you gotta Why you wearing that? Why, why, why are you wearing that? Like, I get it, but it's like you rap really good. But like, y'all gotta stop wearing them hats. Um, let me ask you, um, Minnesota and San Antonio. San Antonio's currently up to one. That's my favorite series right now. That's my favorite series out of all of them right now. That's my favorite series.

SPEAKER_09 41:36

Oh, Minnesota won today?

SPEAKER_12 41:38

No, yesterday. Uh no, no, no. Minnesota won game one. But you said it's 2-1. Who's 2-1? Spurs is up 2-1. Uh Spurs is up 2-1. Uh, Minnesota won game one and Spurs won the next two. 2-3, yeah. Now tomorrow is game four in Minnesota. So the Timberwolves kind of this is it. Like, this is a must-win. Uh, because if you don't, you are down 3-1 heading back to San Antonio.

SPEAKER_09 42:08

Yeah, because yesterday I didn't watch Yeah, yesterday I didn't watch the game.

SPEAKER_12 42:12

But they're doing some shit, man.

SPEAKER_09 42:16

So it's like, but nigga, that that that's it.

SPEAKER_12 42:18

And yo, it's Wemby, I'm telling you, man, Wemby, he's he's he's making his uh this playoff series has this this these playoffs has kind of been his little coming out party to the world. For those who didn't know, yeah, that nigga Wemby's like, yo, I'm I'm coming.

SPEAKER_09 42:32

That nigga dunked over Gobert, nigga. Made that nigga look like his little bitch.

SPEAKER_12 42:37

Nigga Wemby, man, Slender Man. Like, I can't imagine like having to play an NBA series against Slender Man.

SPEAKER_09 42:43

Like, nigga, that that that kid is fucking nice. He just needs to. I feel like he, which is the shit that pisses me off about Lebron.

SPEAKER_12 42:53

He plays he plays like a little angry too sometimes.

SPEAKER_09 42:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 42:56

Because he's too tall. Nah, but you know what I mean? Like you would be mad too if every time you got in the car, your head was just on top of shit like that. Like everywhere you go, like you gotta be like this, and you get on the court, it's like, yeah, I'm gonna take this shit out on y'all.

SPEAKER_09 43:08

I feel like my issue with Wemby is the fact that he could score. But there's a He's French. But that nigga is a lot of times that nigga ends up nigga just with like fucking 12 points. Oh, yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_12 43:20

You talking about the parlays, is what it is. Something you don't like about Wemby is that that nigga be selling the legs.

SPEAKER_09 43:26

Because he he he gets his triple doubles, that nigga could. He almost had a triple double with blocks the other day. It's like that. You know, some of them shits was goaltending. Nigga, he's put that out there now. He's uh he's good, but the and he could fucking score.

SPEAKER_12 43:38

But the thing is he moves that, and I get you got if they found a way to beat OKC, imagine they found a way to beat OKC. And we got them in the finals, or we tried to winners.

SPEAKER_09 43:49

Playing the parade, brother. You could be nigga, a whole alien, whatever the fuck they call it, bro. You ass donkey, man.

SPEAKER_12 43:58

Listen, bro. I'm not gonna tell, I'm not gonna Hold you, man. Wemby, Slendy, Wendy's four for four.

SPEAKER_09 44:04

You're gonna meet Sassy Six. Sassy Cat, nigga. Nixon six. You never played against Sassy Cat, nigga.

SPEAKER_12 44:11

It ain't even about. I'm gonna tell you right now, Cat, he can stand up. I'm gonna tell you right now, Mitch and OG gonna give him trouble. Oh, yeah. Trouble. Trouble, travel, travel. He's gonna go back to France tight, talk about stupid Americans.

SPEAKER_09 44:25

You know the only reason why, because Julius Randle plays bully ball. And it's like kinda, yeah, it's true.

unknown 44:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 44:34

I saw him go up against Julius Randle in a matchup, nigga. I think it was game two. Yeah, for sure it was game two. That nigga made Randall look insignificant, nigga. I was like, God damn. Granted, Randall's like 6'8, 6'9, but still, bro.

SPEAKER_12 44:52

Like, he was just This motherfucker's like 7'4, bro. Like, it's just it's too much. He's too tall. Like, he's that level of tall that it's like the women don't even care how much money he got. They just like, but he's tall though. Like, he's too tall. Like, what am I gonna do with that? Like, my head is on his kneecap. Like, he gotta lay down for me to say hi to him.

SPEAKER_09 45:13

Like, that's crazy. Like, nah, nigga. That, but I think I think that series, this one, this one I'm I'm being biased. And I, but I want Minnesota to win. That's me. You want Minnesota?

SPEAKER_12 45:24

So then tonight, so then tomorrow night, you need Minnesota. And by the time y'all hearing this, yeah, we already know what happened with that. But um, so you're hoping that it's 2-2 on Monday.

SPEAKER_09 45:33

Yeah. I just think that's a good thing. I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_12 45:36

I hope right now, I'm with you. Right now, I want I want Minnesota to win tomorrow's game. I want Minnesota to win tomorrow's game, and because that's my favorite series. So that like I'll that's the one that I want to go seven.

SPEAKER_09 45:48

But I feel uh I told this shit to Lucas the uh what was it the other day, and I told him, I want what I want is for the Minnesota to win. Okay, but I what I need is for the Spurs to win, because I want Anthony Edwards to win a championship, but I don't want him to do it on the same year that the Knicks might make it to the NBA Finals. Because I don't want to I like I of course I'm gonna pick my Knicks, but I don't want him to have to face that Knicks and then fucking I mean if it was ever Minnesota versus the Knicks, that's such a good series.

SPEAKER_12 46:30

Like just the storylines and everything, there's such a good series.

SPEAKER_09 46:34

Oh, that's it for sure.

SPEAKER_12 46:35

That's the drama, it's so good.

SPEAKER_09 46:37

But I think also the other thing is because they still haven't fully cleared Anthony Edwards, unless they have already, and I just didn't see it. But he him not starting and and having limited minutes, that's also something that's gonna impact this whole series.

SPEAKER_12 46:52

For sure. I mean, he's he's their he's their star player, man. You kind of need that.

SPEAKER_09 46:57

Because yesterday, even though they lost, that nigga, yo, that nigga went off, bro. That that that kid nigga was just going cra Nigga, he was just nigga, the step back, fadeaway, nigga, just ridiculous fucking shots, bro. I was just like, this kid is the fucking truth. It's like, and I want him to win a trip. I feel like he's the future of the NBA. Uh he's just, I just don't want him to win this year because the Knicks would look really fucking good. And the fact that Boston went home, nigga, all fear has left my heart. All fear. Even though Boston, like niggas like, ah, but Boston, nigga, this year they weren't the same. I don't give a fuck, nigga.

SPEAKER_12 47:40

Jason, if they would have had more time to get back to the same, they would have been the same.

SPEAKER_09 47:44

You imagine nigga having to face Jalen Brown, nigga, and Jason Tatum. Ain't nobody got time for that. Nigga, them niggas, niggas forget, bro. Niggas, them two niggas are dogs, bro. You have two fucking scores in them two niggas. And the last thing you want to do is have to face fucking 30 and 30, nigga, from two fucking players. Nah, bro.

SPEAKER_12 48:07

Ain't nobody wanna do all that. Ain't nobody wanna do all that. I mean, even though it's true, like I there were parts where I saw them playing this year, and I was like, yeah, it ain't it ain't hitting, it ain't hitting the same. It just ain't hitting the same, man. But I'm glad they going too. I'm glad they going too. I'm glad that we don't gotta deal with Indiana and that fucking devil magic them niggas be doing over there.

SPEAKER_09 48:27

Yo, that was like the other day, nigga. I saw I was watching some shit that uh Halliburton was at uh an event. It might have been, oh, WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_12 48:37

Okay, he's a big wrestling fan, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 48:39

Nigga, he's gained so much fucking weight. Like you saw it in his face.

SPEAKER_12 48:45

It was like I mean, you know how it is when they be when they be out of shape and shit.

SPEAKER_09 48:49

Yeah, bro, but he looks chunky.

SPEAKER_12 48:52

I mean, the thing about it, so it's one of those things where like you work so hard and keep such a fucking like high level of fucking a high level regimen, right? In terms of like your body, your diet, your exercise, and all that. And then when you get an injury, first of all, when when you get an injury like that, you have to stop working out for a long time. Like Jason Tatum was like, he got he got right back on it as soon as he could, but like, nigga, that shit's not easy. And then I think with the other shit that happened to him after, I just think it added a lot to it. Yeah, no, no, no. No, I see him. I saw I saw this. I saw this. Nigga, I he I I hear what you saying he's thick, right?

SPEAKER_11 49:38

No, he said he thick, thick. He said, he said, he said, he said, damn, nigga, you thick, thick as hell. What you doing caked up like that on a Tuesday, Halley?

unknown 49:46

God damn.

SPEAKER_09 49:47

Nah, that nigga is, bro. But nah, it's true, bro. That that Indiana shit nigga, year after year, that shit started to get annoyed. Devil magic. Because it's like them niggas is fake nice. I I swear to God. It's like them niggas, I get it. Tyrese Halliburton, you nice. Uh uh, what the fuck is the African nigga name? Siakum. It's like I don't respect that. You nice. I don't respect that nigga like that. But then all them other bench niggas, fucking, uh uh. Yeah, no, they they they had some they had some they had some Matherin, whatever, Marshall Mathers nigga, whatever the fuck that is.

SPEAKER_12 50:23

Benedict Mathurin.

SPEAKER_09 50:24

Yeah, nigga. It's like, what the fuck? It's like that's when I get tight.

SPEAKER_12 50:29

But that's play, that's playoff basketball for you. Like it uh role players are so important, like, and throughout the year you don't really pay much mind to them or see much, and then the playoffs come and it's like, oh shit, nah, I gotta fucking like my nigga Larry Shaman. My nigga Landry. Hey, check it out, man. The verses that we spoke about last week, right? Or two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_09 50:50

Last week.

SPEAKER_12 50:50

You were here with us last week. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. So we talked about it last week. Exactly. That happened. French Montana, Rick Ross, give you a little quick preview of how that went.

SPEAKER_08 50:57

Shit right here is how it all started from the South Bronx.

SPEAKER_12 51:00

French shouted with shot caller. You remember this shit?

SPEAKER_08 51:04

Yeah. This is when SB got locked up when I was blackballed. All right, French. Shout out Brooklyn. Shout out Brooklyn. Holiday season! Season!

SPEAKER_09 51:18

I forgot this just started off there. Mr.

SPEAKER_04 51:20

Wonderstone right here.

SPEAKER_12 51:26

Not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_08 51:33

Come on.

SPEAKER_12 52:02

And then when I heard the wing, I heard the wing coming in. I said, Ross came in, heavy. French was smart as fuck to play this shit. This yo, I didn't. French? Yo, bro, I'm not gonna lie to you. I did not think he would play this one. So glad he did. Smart. You see, they put the real shit in, and then they go back. Oh, that's for life. Look.

SPEAKER_03 52:39

Mine is Drake vocals.

SPEAKER_12 52:40

Ain't Rick Ross had to do this.

SPEAKER_08 52:46

Yeah, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_09 52:48

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_12 52:51

Nigga should have left Drake going last year. I think he should have just left the vocals. To me, it would've hit harder. But the people sing it, listen.

unknown 53:00

You know what to do.

SPEAKER_11 53:04

I just need it to do.

SPEAKER_12 53:12

And then oh yeah. You know French is gonna play this shit. This shit goes dopey. I can't wait. Summertime is right around the corner, man. I'ma hear this. I'ma have some silk on my body. I'ma have some silk on my body. I'm gonna be outside lit at 2 p.m. Cause I'm old now. I don't get lit at night no more. I get lit in the afternoon.

SPEAKER_03 53:39

And then your boy Shorty's so fine. He's so fresh.

SPEAKER_12 53:44

Another Drake record, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 53:46

I nearly lost my mind.

SPEAKER_12 53:50

And it's crazy. His verses are good.

SPEAKER_04 53:52

Right.

SPEAKER_12 53:54

His verses are good on this, but my whole I hear that beat and I'm just call me crazy shit. At least you call it. Yeah, that shit. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_09 54:00

I can't believe it. He's so fresh.

SPEAKER_12 54:02

What?

SPEAKER_09 54:04

I feel like that's the issue, nigga. A lot of these songs, except for I think the first no. I don't know. Like Shot Caller is, right? That's what that shit is called. Shot Caller, yeah, yeah. It's like that, that one is that that shit in itself, it's like French got that. But that's the one thing with the verses, nigga. Once you start using songs that you're featured featured on, or you featured other people on it, and the niggas did better than you, nigga, you shouldn't even play that shit. Because you're just riding the fucking.

SPEAKER_12 54:34

That's where ego comes in. Because you know some of them think that they did better.

SPEAKER_09 54:37

Nigga, like for you, for example.

SPEAKER_12 54:38

But my thing, here's the thing. Ver if you're gonna do that, and you bring up the point, like you use songs or people did better than you. So this might be an unpopular take, but I like Rick Ross a little bit, like slightly better, on Lord knows than I like Drake.

SPEAKER_11 54:53

Lord knows, Lord knows. I'll play it. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_12 54:57

Man, we playing shit now. I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn. I don't give it them. I just come to this country, I don't give it them, Spotify. Fuck is you talking about?

SPEAKER_11 55:12

He could have played this shit.

SPEAKER_12 55:14

Hit the nigga Rick Ross Adler sound like me when I wake up and it's a Muslim lady standing next to me about oh shit. What you doing there?

SPEAKER_09 55:28

Before I call you crazy, I know what song it is. How the fuck? Maybe I gotta listen to Rick Ross's verse again.

SPEAKER_07 55:39

I'll get to it.

SPEAKER_12 55:40

Alright, Drizzy, you do Drizzy because I feel like Drizzy O D did better. He went crazy. He went crazy. Shit is getting spooky.

SPEAKER_07 55:54

Baby scary.

SPEAKER_12 55:55

Like shit you see in the movie. Alright, Apple.

SPEAKER_04 56:00

That's the forgradest book out of place in Jamaica.

SPEAKER_12 56:05

Cause they dropped the beat out.

SPEAKER_04 56:10

Carnival cruise.

SPEAKER_12 56:12

Like Jose man, they not in my shoes. It's the red bottom boat. It's that they dropped the beat out. It just sounds more like money, luxury. Like, that's my thing. It's like, look, Drake, Drake snap, Drake snap. Don't get me wrong. And I'm a Drake fan, and I'll tell you Drake Snap. But they dropped the beat out for Ross and he starts talking that talk. I'm just like, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 56:34

The way it like transit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 56:37

That's why I'm like, if I'm him, I would have definitely played this shit at the verses that he didn't, but but it's like I mean, as far as I know, he didn't, but who knows? Let me see. What what what else they did? Oh yeah. This is this this came out too like a year ago. Same beat. He played, you know, French is going this way. And he played the Drake Vogels a little bit. Nah, Ross did his thing. He also played um Fuck With Me, you know Magami, which I like. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 57:27

And you know, Unforgettable had to get played, right? No, that song is forever ruined for me because of B B rock. Oh no, P B. R I B. The P B rock. And they still don't got that shit on Apple movie. They can't label and shit. And then they performed this together. This one they should have none of it. This is another song. Drake went so goddamn hard on this shit. And Wayne. I'm with you. You have to do it. Ross, Ross, Ross. Is he the one that says, uh, I love my big booty, bitches. My uh what was that? That's Ross. Yeah, that then I've got to be. My life of Godfather picture. Local club in my city.

SPEAKER_12 58:12

I fell in love with a stripper. Nigga said, I'm nigga talking photo boot. Nah, nah, he went, he went. He went nuts. He went nuts. Let's get these hoes on the Molly. Uh-uh. You know I can't stunt. But then you get, bitch, stop talking that shit. Suck a nigga dick for some truck fit. Nah, he went. He also did this one too. Another Drake song. Yeah, man. So you didn't see the verses, right? You got you got a little preview, whatever. Yeah. I think, but even just from that, like I think like French did a lot better than I think people thought he was gonna do.

SPEAKER_09 58:52

Nah, I I said it, nigga. I thought I was like, he can't compare to Rick Ross. But then as you're playing the songs, and then you realize like how many songs he was featured on. He chose well, too. Yeah, it's really well. That shit, nigga, sounded like a goddamn tie. Like, I gotta watch, like tomorrow, like that's gonna be my shit. Not gonna watch, I'm not gonna watch Planeta Lo Foca, and I'm gonna just watch that.

SPEAKER_12 59:14

Throw that shit on and just give that shit a listen. But um, yeah, either to me, either it's a tie, but if I had to choose a winner, call it New York bias, call it whatever you want. I go French. I like uh I like I like French's choices, I like the way he showed up. It's just one of those things where it's like, man, this dude showed up to the fight and just really fucking showed out, man. He did his thing. Um shouts out to them, but I want to play this. Oh, not not that, not that. We just played that.

SPEAKER_09 59:47

I want to play a clip. Like he got club bangers. He does. Yeah, it's like because Ross got bangers and he also got like uh club joints. But I feel like in the verses, when once you start dropping shit, nigga, that go I feel like that's what French has. More mainstream songs, songs that nigga, like it just blew the fuck up. It's like crazy.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:15

French got yeah, they I I but I say they both, they both got really big records.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:19

They do, but I feel like in the again, we're talking about because it's now with all the the digital platforms and all that shit. Okay. I feel like Ross, when he was dropping his bangers, it wasn't, it was like, it was the radios. And yeah, you heard it on the radio, which at the time was big. But the thing is, it's like French's songs, like what the during the the 20 teens of that that time around there, like 2010, 11, whatever, all through the ninth, nigga. Bro, it wasn't just the radio, nigga. It was TikTok, it was Instagram, it was uh uh fucking Vine nigga, whatever. Snapchat, you mean Snapchat, yeah, yeah. TikTok was a little bit later. But it's like, no, even on TikTok, I forgot what songs. Oh, well, they brought TikTok brought shit back, yeah. It's like uh uh I'm talking about like in the moment, yeah. Unforgettable, nigga. Yeah, there were little African kids, nigga, dancing to this shit, nigga, on TikTok, nigga. It's like shit go crazy. Nigga, but it's that. I feel like that's so which is also not fair for Rick Ross, but I feel like if you remember, like, for example, when uh what's the song?

SPEAKER_12 1:01:26

Ross got some shit though. I'll give it to him. Like, he played when he played I'm a boss, it was one of the earliest songs. Like, he's it's one of the early songs in the verses. I'm a boss came on, and I was just like, damn, bro. Like, I I forgot how hard that shit ring off, bro. Like, and shout out to Meek Mill, man. Look, Meek, Meek gets a lot of shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, Meek Mill gets a lot of fucking shit. Um, and you know, Meek has done some silly shit that kind of you know caters to that as well. But yo, putting all that shit to the side, bro, like just just seeing, like just hearing that song brought me back to like that time when Meek, his voice on a on a big club record was just special, bro.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:06

Like, bro, like I'm gonna play that shit. I don't care. I'm thinking, like, what the fuck is I'm a boss? And it's uh it's one of his first shits that had come out.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:14

Bro, that shit, when when that shit came on, I said, yeah, man, this is it's a Meek Mill song. Come on, bro. You hear this? This shit take you back back, bro. Like, bro, this is this is different, bro. This is nuts.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:30

Riding through my old hood, moving my new whip. Same on attitude, moving my new shit. Damn, I forgot about this. Yeah, because they know that the nah I gotta tell it.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:41

Guess I want you to I want you to guess when this came out. Guess how long ago this came out? 2015, 10 years ago? 2011. Really? 2011.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:58

Nigga, I feel like that shit will happen.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:00

2011, brother.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:02

God damn. Self-made. Yes. Nigga said I'm only 23. That's yeah. 2011, bro. I'm telling you. Yo, it's been that long. God damn.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:15

Telling you, bro. It's shit, this shit, this shit.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:18

That's the beautiful thing about verses. It brings you back. Nah, it's the shit I was saying, nigga. Music, nigga, back in the day, nigga, brought you to a moment in time. Like when you put uh uh Oh, it wasn't these Joseph. Wait, was it Jose Loyal? Jose Loyal, yes. No, no, but Rick Ross is on? No, he wasn't. French, French. French is oh yeah. So when you played it, I was like, oh, I remember the exact moment in time when that shit came out, and why that shit is hard, bro. Shout out to Meek Mill. When that song came out, I remember we were in my backyard, and the problem that song started in my house. Because niggas was like, these hoes ain't loyal. And somebody had just gone through a breakup, and the person was right there. Oh, Jesus.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:08

I just wanted to let that breathe so it could be awkward.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:12

Yo, listen, and it wasn't me, so now, now, Ross, um, the internet will likely make try to make something of you being like, hey, play that joint without the Drake vocals. I want y'all to sing it without little man, right? They're gonna make some of it, but you constantly play your records and you collab with Drake on, and you encourage the fans to sing. So that's not trying to make be messy, that's you. I'm trying to put on a show.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:42

Let me let me tell you some shit. Me being a boss. You gotta understand. This French Montana right here, this is my brother. Drake you listening to this homie. Listen to me. I don't wanna see you lose. I don't know what niggas about. It is called this game. It is rap shit, it is anywhere. I don't wanna see you loop real niggas just wanna see real niggas shine together. Real niggas come up together. You understand? When I was the number one nigga in the rap game, I show niggas love. My friend was on fire, he showed niggas love.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:35

When other niggas are I'll leave it there.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:42

Uh what do you think about what do you think about Ross's comments? How do you what how do you react to that? How do you take that?

SPEAKER_09 1:05:53

Just in case he m because he might sign us one day. Nah, I feel like uh this like a Bro, you can't, nigga, you threw stones, nigga. You you took shots, bro. You dead took shots. That's a fact. And now all of a sudden, nigga, you backtracking, nigga. Where the fuck were you, nigga, when that nigga needed you in his corner, nigga? It's like the whole rap fucking industry turned your back on that nigga. And now all of a sudden it's like, oh, we love you. And it's like, oh, a real nigga only wants you to succeed. No, nigga. You ain't a real nigga just for that fucking excuse, nigga. Like, get the fuck out of here. It's like, you can't go and what, nigga? All because you see that nigga, or you think that that nigga's down bad or some shit, nigga. Now you wanna come out and speak for him. Like, get the fuck out of here. Everybody turned their back on him. And I would say the same shit if ASAP come out of nowhere and decides to like fucking try to defend him.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:46

He he he won't, because they shit a little different. You know, when a woman's involved. Yeah, you ain't coming back from that.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:51

But but I I didn't like that whole shit. It's like, bro, you like I get it that at the end of the day, it's the my whole thing with Jay-Z. It's like I feel like hip-hop is changing. And I don't like the way that it's uh uh what it's starting to become. Where it's like hip-hop was, it's not that it was all about beef, but it was about it was it there was a competitiveness to it. And it's like, yes, in the end you knew that people were friends or whatever, but it's like everybody nowadays is is all about uh it's almost like everybody wants to be buddy buddy, or it's like that's why I didn't respect the whole shit that Jay-Z said. What was it when we played it the last time? It's like nigga, you're the same dude, bro, that that took shots at niggas. It's like now you want peace, now you don't want it's like, bro, like leave that shit, nigga, for the church. Like that, that that whole fucking So that's for the Neocats game. Yeah, nigga, that whole shit's like, oh, we love you.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:52

It's like we want you just to go to a conveyance for that, my brother.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:55

It's like, bro, Drake took shots at you, nigga, and you had no response. Nigga, they jumped you in Canada, nigga. Like, and now it's all love, nigga. What?

SPEAKER_12 1:08:04

Now I remember now. Ross, Ross was dropping though. Uh huh. You remember Ross was dropping songs and shit.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:08

No, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the thing is, it's like now they they Oh yeah. Now you want peace. It's like now you want because in his head, he probably like, yo, cause champagne coming back. Nigga, it's a nigga. You want a feature on Iceman? No, nigga, it's already done. Now ain't no features.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:24

I'm gonna tell you that right now. I I'm I'm guaranteeing you on Iceman, we ain't hearing but two, maybe three other people, and it ain't gonna be that I don't ain't gonna be that many, bro. I'm gonna tell you. It's gonna be the ones that that stayed solid the entire time. Like, Game was up there in Canada. I don't know if he got a verse on the album. Maybe he just got a cameo in one of the videos. But that'll be good. Drake and game. Um, you know, game stayed solid the entire time. Even when I even when I was like, you know, game, I would understand if you was riding with Compton, because this is a big moment for Compton right now, but Compton don't seem to fuck with him that exact same way. So I get I get why he stood where he did. I'm I'm with you. Honestly, I'm with you. I think, you know, it just hearing Rick Ross say, you know, Sean, Sean, all that shit now, after what we saw two years ago, it just doesn't hit the same. It just doesn't hit the same. If this came from somebody who stayed a little bit more mutual, a little more like down the middle. Like if DJ Khaled was the one saying that right now, I'd be like, okay, I get it. Like, you know, Khalis trying to get back on the good graces or whatever. Khaled didn't come out and take no shots at Drake, though. Like Rick Ross, you were, you know, you were on social media, you were drop, you dropped a diss track. Like, you know, you you came at him. Like you can't now be like, nah, brother, I'm a boss. Like, you know, I just want to see you shine. You ain't want to see him shine two years ago, my brother. Two years ago, you ain't want to see him shine. You was not with that. You was calling him white boy, you was talking about his nose, all saying he got a nose job or some shit. You was talking about he gets plastic surgery and all you was doing a lot two years ago. And look, I just feel like, yo, on the type of timing that Drake seems to be on right now, like, y'all niggas gotta stay on that side. At least for this album and this this this album run that's about to happen, y'all niggas gonna have to stay on that side. Like, I can't speak to the future. Who knows what's gonna happen in the future? Who knows if Drake has a change of heart, if niggas come together and whatever? I don't know. But I'll tell you this, I doubt it. I doubt it. We say it all the time. Drake is an emotional dude, he's a petty dude. Like, I don't see, I don't see that. So, like him coming out and saying this now, like, Drake, if you're listening, well, Drake is probably listening because he lists, he hears, and sees everything. But this ain't gonna what is this gonna do for Drake? Like, you think Drake is gonna hear this and be like, Yeah, you know, Rose, he right. He just wants to see me shine.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:45

And that's the thing, nigga. He's also fucking pussy, nigga. Like, you waited for Kendrick to have to go and engage with that nigga. And then all y'all, and I love a lot of the niggas that went at Drake.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:55

But the thing is, I still I still love Rick Ross.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:58

He got an album coming June 12th. I'ma listen. It's like, but all y'all niggas waited for Kendrick to offer all y'all niggas to start dogpiling. It's like that's why Kendrick had to tell that nigga, yo, just focus on me, nigga. Like it's me and you. Yeah, all these other niggas, bro, which I don't know why niggas didn't come at Kendrick.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:14

At the end of the day, it's like niggas ain't gonna come at Kendrick. The same way them niggas wouldn't never came at Drake if it wasn't 20v1, they ain't coming at Kendrick unless it's 20v1.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:23

Because all y'all niggas wanted y'all little time to shine.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:26

That's how fake the industry is, too. Cause like if two years from now something pop off and all of a sudden it becomes popular to hate Kendrick, a lot of these same people will be out there hating Kendrick. It's just that's the industry. That's how shit goes. That's a fact. That's how shit, that's how shit goes. None of that shit is real. A lot of those relationships is fucking fugazy. Like, you you say you say niggas is brothers, you say we this, you say we that, but then when it comes time to really ride for niggas, niggas don't be down to ride. Like, I'm sorry, bro. Like, if I'm Drake and I'm hearing this, bro, it's like, brother, you know the two years that I just had.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:56

That's okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:57

And you talking about you want to see me shine. You where the fuck was you? Where was you at? You was on A side, right? You was on that side. Stay there. Stay there. Don't talk about you want to see me shine. Now, nobody who is on that side should be able to sit down today talking about they want to see me shine. Straight up, you don't. It's bullshit. Like, respect to Joe Button. Joe Button had punch on the pod the other day, and Joe is pretty much saying the same shit. He like, nah, fuck that nigga. Like, I get it, whatever. Like, it's fuck him. But I'm gonna listen to Iceman. He can't stop me from listening to Iceman. I'm like, okay, respect.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:26

I respect that. Like, I respect that too. You gonna listen to the album? Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_12 1:12:30

Fuck you who he's still a fan in a sense. Like, in reality, he's still a fan. He don't like him. What's it that he said? He said, fuck you who, and I'm gonna still listen to him. And I'ma still listen to Iceman. Straight up. But it's like, okay, like that. But if I'm Drake, I'm like, yeah, okay, cool. Like, I want that. Purchase my album. Stream my shit. I mean, if you're Drake, one of the biggest flexes that you have to feel is that, look, as much as I know this nigga Joe Budden don't vibe with me on a personal level, he still has to go into work the following Tuesday that my album releases. On what is that? So you're talking about what, 60, 17, 18th? He still has to go into work on Tuesday the 19th and record a three-hour podcast about me and my music reacting and talking about my album. And if my album is everything I say it is, he is not going to be able to shit on it as much as he's gonna want to because he cares about his integrity, he cares about his, you know, how people, you know, hold him in this meet. And he says he doesn't sometimes, but I know he does. And the way that I know he does is by the way he carries it. Yeah, that's why I fuck with Joe at the end of the day. Look, Joe Joe does a lot of shit that pisses me off, that annoys me, the biases and everything. But at the end of the day, nigga, we all biased. We all got biases. Like, yeah. And Joe's shit with Drake, nigga, I would never tell him that he has to feel a certain way or whatever, because they got like it's personal shit, nigga. So who the fuck am I to be like, oh, he can't feel nigga? I can't tell him how to feel the way once his women involved, nigga. I can't like I'm not gonna get into that. Like, Joe could feel the way he wants to feel. The reason I'm always respecting Joe Budden is that listen, I feel like when it comes to the music shit, he keeps it a bean every fucking time. Like, if he fucks with something, he fucks with it. If he doesn't, he doesn't, he says it. Like the view shit, that rant made him go viral. I think that's the rant that took the Joe Budden podcast to the level, like to this new level, and he kept building on it to get it to where it is today. But I think that's what's so funny about like his relationship with Drake is that like they're gonna be connected forever. They're gonna be connected forever because like he's like the biggest in hip-hop media, and Drake is the biggest in hip-hop. So it's like they don't, they they're they're likely we're always on a path to end up hating each other at some point. That was gonna happen. But I respect that you know Joe says shit and is also liable to change his mind and come on the podcast and say that. Like the views rant is one of the most famous Joe Budden rants, and a couple years ago he came back and said, Yo, I was listening to Views again. That shit ain't half bad. Like nigga, yo, we laughed. We had a good, like, yo, I had an amazing laugh at that episode, but I also left with such a fucking respect for him. Cause like people could say, Yeah, oh, he made a joke about it, whatever. But yeah, yeah, I don't understand the balls that it still takes to do that, though. To come back a couple years later and be like, Yeah, I know what I said a couple years ago. Yeah, nah, you know, I was wrong. And he didn't say fully I was wrong, but he was like, Yeah, you know, that shit was actually a lot better than I remembered it. And views is good. I fuck with views, but here's my thing. Like, I was one of the people that like I I got a lot of shit like when views came out because I was trying to defend the album, and most people, it wasn't just Joe, like a lot of people killed that album, and that shit came out. They was like, what the fuck is this? I turned the six upside down, it's a nine now. That shit is whack. I was like, I thought that shit was cool, like whatever. But the freaking DMX shit, what these bitches won from a nigga on some DMX shit. Like, I like that shit, nigga. The intro, the keep the family close. That's one of my favorite Drake intros, man. I say that shit a lot, but I don't give a shit. It is what it is, nigga. All of my let's just be friends. Uh friends I don't have anymore. I love that shit.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:03

Nigga, the views is my shit. I gotta listen to that shit again because I don't remember that shit even being remotely horrible.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:10

No, no, no. I mean, it's hard. I think now it's hard, it would be hard to go to listen to it and figure out why people thought it was horrible. Cause like, again, like over the years, the projects come out and we listen to different things and new things, and then like we we hear things different. We just hear things differently. That's true. Like, you would have to go, it's just it's impossible. You'd have to go back into the moment when it came out and listen with those ears. Even though, like, again, I will say, like, I don't, I mean, I don't remember you killing the album back then.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:39

Yeah. Um I started killing it, I think, after 2018, 19. Whenever the fuck the the the techno bullshit.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:46

No, the one, yeah, the one album that like for sure you for sure hated and killed was Honestly Nevermind. And to this day, like, I don't agree with that opinion, but I respect the opinion because it's a valid point. It's like, nigga, I don't not, that that shit ain't for me. If it's not for you, it's not for you. And my thing, it's like I said, it's not even like I don't like people who pretend that shit is for them just because they like the artists.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:07

Yeah, like I don't, like I, like I said, if my beef with Drake is just the fact that this thing, like, I love when he's talking his shit. Even his RB shit. When he gets to his RB back. But it's like, I feel like the last couple albums has just been kind of like, fuck it. And I feel like that's my the I feel like the more I feel like every week I come with a new fucking take. But it's like I've really been thinking, cause niggas have been asking me, like, yo, why do you hate on Drake so much? But I feel like it's that, that, that fucking uh uh uh uh drive, that fucking uh uh hunger, it felt like it died off and he was just like, hey, I'm pretty sure I could throw out anything into the universe. He wasn't wrong. And nigga, and niggas will still eat it up. He wasn't wrong.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:53

And it's like No, you said niggas is gonna eat it up? That's crazy.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:57

Like I know I know a whole bunch of niggas, bro, that that nigga, you should play that shit seven times because they goggle that nigga dick, bro. And they support all of that nigga shit. Cause there are albums out there, nigga, that I like if it ain't like even even if not everything is good, like it's like it's fine. Like, I'll still be like, I, but this song was fire, that song was fire. Bro, I've listened to Honestly Nevermind, bro, because I'm not the type of person I'll I'll see something one time, and anytime I speak, I'll be like, yo, heard it once, not a fan, but I still gotta like sit down and digest it and see. Nigga, there was nothing to digest with honestly never mind, nigga. It just wasn't for me. Certified Lover Boy, shit, nigga. I like fucking Honesty Nevermind more than fucking CLB, nigga. That's wild. Nigga, I swear to God. Well, let me stop saying this. It's opinion, it's opinion, though. Because at the end of the day, I I I be thinking I know what I'm talking about when it comes to album, and then I'll go pull up the album and be like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_12 1:19:09

Wait, no, I like this one.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:11

Nah, CLB wasn't, it's not that it was better or any. I I can't say that off the top right now, but for sure it wasn't one that I that I fucking like. And then the the the shit that had first person shooter, that was For All the Dogs. Nigga, that was I feel like that for me that was the song. That's it. It's like after that, it was I think there was two.

SPEAKER_12 1:19:31

Yeah, I wasn't, I would be honest with you, for all the dogs, I was underwhelmed. Um, for sure. But again, this is you know one of those things where it's like, look, you you get to the top, right? And everything is working, and you're that guy, and everything you put out does numbers, and every tour gets sold out, every arena's full, every you know, every every concert just so much fucking love. Like everybody's hitting you for a feature. When you send a feeler out for the feature, it's always a yes, it's never a no. You got a fucking plane, a fucking plane, not a jet, a plane branded with you. Like you got deals with Nike, you got like you're just you're just winning and winning and winning and winning and winning and winning. And I think you get to a point where whether you want to or not, it's like you don't mean to do it. I don't think any of them mean to do it, but you do get complacent. You get complacent, and that's why losses are important, that's why rain is important. You don't appreciate the sunshine if you don't get the rain, like you don't appreciate the wins if you don't get the losses. I I say this a lot, you know, when I'm talking about the Yankees and I'm covering the Yankees, I'm like, look, man, it sucks that we're going, we're pushing almost 20 years since the last ring, but I know they're gonna get another one. And when they do, it's going to feel so fucking good because of the last 20 years. And I think that's the part that some fans miss that they're like, nah, but like this shit, and like I get it. Like, I don't, I'm not rooting for my team to lose. I would never I never root for my team to lose. But it it speaks to what I was talking about, even with the Knicks. Like, why am I so hyped for the Knicks to finally it's because bro, like, when you go through all those L's, like the win feels that much better. And that's why I am so amped for Iceman. Because I was like, yo, the only thing that I think could have gotten Drake to lock in the way that I as a fan have been looking for him to lock in. Not the way the younger generations and people because I think people were happy with the music he was releasing up the last couple years. I was one of the fans that was like, yeah, I mean, I love Drake, he's one of one of my favorite artists. I don't think he's releasing everything right now for me anymore. Like it's he's not focused on me. I think the one thing that could have got him to get back into that bag was what happened with him and Kendrick. I think he needed to lose. And I don't again, people say, oh, but he lost the Push of T and whatever. It's not the same. It's not the same. He needed to lose the way that he lost to Kendrick. And it wasn't just that he lost to Kendrick, it was realizing that this was a bigger play, that the label decided, no, you know what? Fuck you. Like, yeah, you made us billions, yeah, you whatever, but you asking for too much, you're doing too much, we're about to show you who's really in charge. Like, when you take a loss like that, that you are literally powerless, and you realize that you have literally you are literally at the mercy of your adversary, that's a different kind of loss. That's that's a pride-breaking loss. That's a backbreaker. That's something that you you now you gotta go back to the drawing board, you gotta fucking like really take a long, hard look at yourself and be like, okay, like how do I how do I fucking respond? And I think that's why I think Iceman is gonna be special. Like, I'm not I'm not saying, oh, it's gonna be a good, I know it's gonna be good, I know it's gonna be it's gonna be good. No, I've been out on a limb saying this shit, and I will say it here once again. I think Iceman is going to be one of Drake's best projects of all time because of what happened with Kendrick. And if it is, we have to also, we we can't also just ignore the fact that the Kendrick battle had a lot to do with why it ended up being that. Like if it if it does come out, and this is one of Drake's fucking best projects, a fucking masterpiece, a classic. If this is if this is finally the album that everybody's like, oh shit, like this is the classic. He finally got the classic. Because I think he has classics, but a lot of people say he doesn't have the classic. Imagine this is the one that people are like, yo, this is the classic or whatever. Well, you can't ever forget that we got the classic after Kendrick gave him the two-piece and a biscuit.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:39

Nigga, wait, nigga, wait, what? Nigga, I feel like I'm so out of tune that Drake don't got a classic.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:46

It's one of the biggest arguments. Um, as a Drake fan, I've argued this a lot. I think, I think um, I believe Take Care is a classic, and I think nothing was the same as a classic.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:56

Um those were the two that came to mind for me.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:59

I that's those are the ones that I go to. I think Take Care. Look, people, and again, people always try to discredit that, yeah. But you know, the weekend, the weekends pen was all over that album and everything. I'm like, I mean, yo, use whatever excuse you want. The album is amazing. Like, it's that's a classic album. That's a classic album. Lord knows that I just played, that's off of that album. Like, what are we talking about?

SPEAKER_09 1:24:22

Like, that album is classic.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:24

Nothing was the same. That's Drake's best intro. Tuscan Leather is Drake's best intro. And dare I say, one of the best intros in rap history. Nigga, what, three beats? I think three different beats or whatever. He gets he literally gets to the point in the intro where he starts rapping. How much time is this nigga spending on the intro? And he said that at the exact moment that I was thinking it. I'm listening to the intro for the first time, and I'm like, damn, this nigga really, and he said, How much time is this nigga spending on the intro? I was like, God damn. Like, like, yo, that's reading my mind. Legit, bro. I'm telling you, like, shouts out, like, yeah, man. So, do I agree with that point that he doesn't have a classic? No. But I would love for him to drop the undeniable classic.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:04

That even the haters gotta be like, nah, yeah, like I don't fuck with Drake like that, but that shit was a classic.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:08

Nah, nigga, this Iceman project, bro. I really hope, and I feel also that the shit is gonna be a classic. But if it ain't, if it ain't, nigga, I will be the first nigga on this pod shitting on the whole thing. And then I don't want to hear that.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:27

And I don't mean if it ain't, like, based off of how it's critically received. Yeah. Because I'm not ex- I'm gonna tell y'all this right now. I don't give a fuck with any of y'all think. It's a lot of people, it's a lot of people out there. Look, there's people who are changing their tune, like we just heard with Rick Ross. Yeah. Like, you know, we've seen with a couple media outlets saying, like, nah, but you know, I never hated Drake. Like, I'm I'm looking forward to the album. Yeah, we saw that. We we hear y'all. There's still a lot of niggas out there that can't wait for that shit to drop so that half an hour later they can tweet the shit trash. It's like, oh, this shit mid. He's still ass or whatever. Kendrick won. There's a lot of idiots out there like that. So I ain't paying attention to that. Like, I don't care. Listen, there's Kendrick fans out there that feel like it don't matter what this nigga dropped, we just gotta shit on it because that's our that's our our job now. I disagree. Um, but there's also Drake fans out there that feel like you know they gotta do the same thing to Kendrick stuff, and I still disagree. I don't think you have to do that. Um But based off of what this album sounds like, that's where that's where my opinion is gonna come from. And I feel like that that's one of the beauties of fucking. And by the way, this is the last episode that we're doing before we hear Iceman. Like, next episode will be our Iceman review episode.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:42

Oh, for sure, nigga. Yeah, I'm fucking what is it, the 15th that shit comes out? This week? Nigga, I am on that bitch. But that's the thing, bro. Use your own fucking mind, come up with your own conclusion. Nigga, before I go on fucking Twitter or anything, nigga, I go, nigga, and listen to shit or watch shit. It's like, cause at the end of the day, I need to form my own opinion. Cause I'll tell you right now, and this is just it's probably a bad example, but when Spider-Man uh Far From Home, I think this shit is called. Oh yeah, when uh the whole three Spider-Mans came out, yeah, nigga, that shit was so hype, nigga, that by the time I wanna go see it, I had no choice but to fucking hate on it. Cause it was like, nigga, this shit wasn't that big of a deal. Like niggas hyped that shit up, but it was because everybody.

SPEAKER_12 1:27:31

I'm glad I saw it before us.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:33

Yeah, like if I probably would have seen it at the moment, I would have felt that same hype. It is in the moment.

SPEAKER_12 1:27:38

But the thing is, everybody I didn't care when I saw Andrew Garfield. I'm not gonna lie to you. And he's he's he's he's dope, he's goaded, love him. Yeah, but Toby But the moment that Toby stepped through that shit looking like a youth pastor, I said, Yes. But nah. What the fuck I'm talking about? That's why he's the goat.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:55

That niggas need to Nah, the one of the most beautiful moments was when that nigga told uh When Andrew Garfield speaks to that nigga of the.

SPEAKER_12 1:28:04

When he saves when he saves when he saves his MJ. Yo, nigga, I shed a thug tear in the thicker. I ain't gonna lie to you. Damn, bro. I shed a thug tear. Whoever wrote that shit.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:14

Nigga's a goat.

SPEAKER_12 1:28:16

You a good writer, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:17

You you you did that. Um but for sure. Y'all niggas just have to listen to it. Don't lit, don't ask your friend. Formulate your own opinion. Let's say so. Yeah. Just go, cause nigga, nigga, the niggas that sit on this couch love these niggas. But as much as I love these niggas, I'm not about to get say some shit, nigga, just to make these niggas feel happy. It's like, at the end of the day, nigga, I'm gonna go give my opinion. Cause at the end of the day, nigga, they're my brothers, nigga. Don't have to deal with my ass, nigga, whether they love to or not. But the thing is, bro, it's like, yo, be honest to yourself. And it's like, if it's for you, it's for you. It's like even right now with the J. Cole album. I like it. I enjoy it. But the more I listen to it, I don't think that this is one of his best albums. It's like I think it's a good album. It's a good album. It's like, but I don't think is like comparing it to his other shit, and maybe I just have to listen to it a little bit more, but it's like I don't, as of right now, is it better than the Fallout? Yes.

SPEAKER_12 1:29:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:29:17

But like I said, I think about it's not better than 2014.

SPEAKER_12 1:29:20

Oh fuck no. It's not better than Born Center. No. Is it better than Sideline Story?

SPEAKER_09 1:29:25

No. Is it better than KOD? Now there I gotta go look at the tracks. But it's a Is it better uh it's better than For Your Eyes Only. I love For Your Eyes Only. That has a lot of sentimental fucking. Alright, let me ask you this.

SPEAKER_12 1:29:46

Switching uh switching gears from music, going into our Dominican people's um Planeta Alofoque. You been you been fucking with that? Yeah, I have. I have. Um well before I get into what I actually want to get into, like how you been how you been enjoying this iteration of Alofoque?

SPEAKER_09 1:30:05

I feel like it's fucking I feel like it's messy. I feel like this time around, it's not the same as like La Casa Uno and La Casa Dodo. I feel like he's trying to do two. It feels rushed, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:30:18

I feel like, no, I I I do all right, no, no, no. What do I want to say? I feel like like I don't feel like he's trying to do too much, but I do at the same time. Like I feel like that's why I said it's rushed. I feel like if he would have just taken the year and like came back at like who knows, top of 2027, I think a lot of this shit would have been planned much better.

SPEAKER_09 1:30:40

Yeah, because it's like you saw that he started off with one cast, and even though a lot of them are still there, but he started off with one cast, then like the streaming will fall off and shit was going left. But these niggas did like fucking 10 days, and then all of a sudden the nigga just knocked down the stream and then just restarted with uh by adding more people, whatever. Yeah, and it's like like I don't know, it was just it just seems like I don't know. I I just feel like it's fucking messy. The other day that nigga threw a whole fucking tantrum and fucking eliminated half the house. It's like it's just and then he would say it's like, oh, it's the Santiago Mateo. It's like, oh, it's this cast. It's like, and I can't blame the cast, I can't blame production, I blame myself. This is my fault. And then he was like, and now I'm about to go eliminate uh three people out of the four that are uh from Casa Uno and Casa Dow. That nigga pulls up, I don't know what happens because he meets with the four niggas and he doesn't have the mics on. Then all of a sudden they stay. It's almost like this nigga's just uh hormonal, nigga, and fucking just goes, I don't know. He might be bipolar, man. Yeah, but it's nigga, that shit is annoying. Then he brought people the same niggas he eliminated, he brought them all back. It's like, god damn, bro. It's like that's what I say. I feel like there's so much going on, and it's like it's not fucking good. And then I also don't like the fact that what was it? Like La Fruta and Jimenez and Michael and them niggas, bro. Jokes are jokes, and one of the things that happened in La Casa 1 and La Casa Dor was the fact that yo, niggas were getting their jokes off, whether you were gay, straight, man, woman, didn't matter.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:28

This time around, it seems like there's a lot of like victimization, if that's even a word. It's like uh like the old lady La Viuda. It's like, oh, you uh like oh uh you guys are attacking an older lady, you guys have no respect, you guys hate older people. The gay guy, it's like, oh, you guys are homophobic and all this other shit. And then this nigga has to come during the prime time and say, hey, do you feel like you're being attacked because of your sexual orientation? Bro, it's it's a lot of fucking shit, and it seems like he's trying to clean up as he goes along, and yeah, that's the reason why. And it's like my biggest issue is that he he made it seem like there was gonna be like these missions that were gonna be so goddamn so different, yeah. That but it's like nigga, these niggas are mostly inside the houses, just like the first cases, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:33:23

Yeah, I think I think a lot of that could have been avoided had he waited. And again, again, going back to the Drake point, it's tough when you're when you're winning. And Casado was a huge win. Yeah, it was a huge win. It was a it was a triumph. I mean, he literally cemented himself in the history of Dominican content creators as one of the greatest of all time, if not the greatest of all time, with what he did with Casado Foque Do. Like the casting was perfect, but you gotta remember, like, when you when you when you drop a classic, whether it be a movie, an album, a piece of content, you have to also remember, like, while you have this belief in yourself that like yo, I did that, I fucking did it. I think there's also part of you as a creator that has to also understand that there's there's also blessings, there's luck that is involved. For you to drop a classic, bro, like a lot of shit has to go so right that as good as you are, you couldn't have done that. You know what I mean? As good as he was, when he casted La Fruta, he had no idea. Yeah, he had no idea. And if he says that today, he could say that, of course. Hindsight's 2020. But I'm saying, let's call a spade a spade, bro. There's no way that he could have known that that motherfucker was gonna become a global sensation like that. Yeah, there's just no way. He didn't cast him to do that. There's just no way. Dumintin's like, so it's like when those things happen, sometimes you gotta count your blessings and you gotta rest on that a little bit. And I think what happened was he got greedy. He saw, like, yo, this shit did good. I gotta strike while the iron is hot. I still got the eyes on me. People are saying they want another one, they want another one. And it's like, yeah, that's true. Fans will tell you that shit, but fans will leave you wrong so many fucking times. And I think this is one of the instances where the fans led you wrong. Because the fans told you, yo, we want it, drop that shit, drop that shit. And it's like, local, yeah, they didn't want this though. This is not what we wanted. Like, and again, that's why you it would have been better to just be like, yo, continue with the shit you were saying. No va a haber, Casatre. No va a haber. We're not doing it, like, it's not gonna happen, or whatever, and then just drop at the 2027, come back with a fucking palo. I see. Like, I think you could have waited, or maybe later in this year, but I just think this feels it just feels rushed. The mistakes, the the things that I'm seeing, even the casting, the casting felt the casting didn't feel didn't feel good. Like I just felt like after what you did with Casalo Foque though, I think the next time that you came back with content, you could have you could have beat niggas over the head with the cast. Like you could have gone nuts. Because so many people were now looking at this platform as an opportunity. And I get it, you know, some niggas is still gonna try to come and and fucking ego you and Hollywood you and shit, but I think there would have been a lot of people that would have been like, yo, like fuck it, I'll do this or whatever. Like, I'm just I feel like you know, if he would have waited, he would have been able to do that.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:17

But because the thing is, even if you think about Casa Uno, it was mostly like let's try this, and it was a success. Yes. Because there was a lot of people there that were popular, maybe just in DR, but at the end of the day were known enough to fucking, and it was like it worked out. But then Casa dos, it seemed like he targeted influencers, niggas who were online, and it's like all of these niggas had a following. Even though I didn't know most, I knew Michael J. Lexi only because they had popped up a couple times because they do like funny videos, they prank each other, they do a lot of dumb shit. But they had already over, like a couple million followers. Yeah, they were bigger. Uh, Pollito had millions of followers. Uh like uh I forget who, like uh Perez says a fucking artist, so she had five shout out to superable, like all these and La Fruta, because of his son, he also had a big following. And it's like this time, nigga, you put DJ Sammy, nigga. Niggas like, oh, DJ Sammy, one of the hardest nigga. Last time I heard of DJ Sammy was like when niggas said, it's like, yeah, that's one song was on the city. Nigga, Messias over there, nigga looking like Homer Simpson, nigga, in his body. Nigga looked like Peter Griffin, nigga. Shit was wild, bro. Then he had that fucking nigga who I'm pretty sure had fucking his pecs done, nigga. That nigga's fucking pecs. Nigga's mad brawl like with weird ass pecs. It's like, I don't know, I don't know what the fuck is wrong with that.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:50

Classic surgery gotta chill, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:37:51

Got a fucking Korean chick, nigga, that only she knows who the fuck she is.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:57

Well, I think they know her where she's from, but that's so I brought it up mainly because I wanted to talk about the speed stuff. Did you see you said you saw that? So uh they collabed. Uh Speed is currently, I think he's still there, right? Or did it finish? What Jamaica? No, he's in Jamaica. No, he was good. Now he's in Jamaica. Speed is currently doing, yeah, but he's he's still doing like this uh this where he's doing the world tour, he's going to all these different countries. And nigga went to Paraguay. When he popped up, when he popped up in DR, obviously, him streaming this live world event for streaming and Falk is streaming his live world event for streaming, it was kind of an obvious marriage that, like, okay, like, you know, we should cross paths, you know, join up, you know, have your stream, see what I'm doing, my stream, see what you're doing, and you know, make this a real big cultural moment. They did that, and you know, while while they linked, um speed stream jumped up uh well over a million to one, two, one, three, one, six, apparently went as high as one nine at one point, which are streaming records for speed. And they celebrated in real time, you know, during the stream. But then later on, uh, when uh Speed was alone, he said that he spoke with uh reps at YouTube, and he's like, Yeah, apparently it was botted, and the most that I ever had at the at you know, their concurrent was about 300k and stuff like that. And since then, shit has kind of been going left. Like, you got a war that has kind of broken out, not necessarily between the two entities, between Alofoque and Speed. It's it's a it's mainly like fans of Speed and fans of Alofoque kind of going back and forth, and then a bunch of other content creators like trying to make sense of what's going on.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:51

Um and also attacking Alofoque because of his numbers, his numbers are beginning wild.

SPEAKER_12 1:39:56

Well no, so a lot uh that's what I'm saying. So so basically, what the premise is is that when Speed came out and said that, oh, like I spoke to her about YouTube and they said that it was bothered, whatever, a lot of people immediately just jumped and said, Oh, Alofoque botted the streams.

SPEAKER_09 1:40:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:40:10

Like Alo Foque went and botted the streams so that he could have that moment or whatever, and then obviously Alofoque saw that and was like, like, what the fuck are y'all talking about? Like this shit is crazy. Like, look at the numbers that I've done. Like, I don't have to bot shit. And here's the thing I get people saying, like, yo, like the number it did, it did look suspicious and all this shit, whatever. It's like, look, Alofoque does crazy numbers. Like that shit is cemented. You just look, Casel Alofoque though, is there on YouTube. You can see the numbers that he did there. And the way that YouTube works is like, look, while something is live, you'll see these views like you know, fluctuating up and down or whatever. The moment that session goes final, you'll see the view count. And if there was any botting, YouTube goes and removes those views expeditiously. So it's like, this is not something where it's like we're not gonna know, like, you know, what's gonna happen, like if it happened or it didn't happen. Like, we will get a resolution. I think the interesting thing here is that YouTube did hasn't said that officially. Now, that's here's my thing. Like, I'm not saying speed is lying because speed, I don't think speed is a liar. Like, I I I look, he's a he's a great kid. He I I think what he does, his streams are very entertaining, and he's very kind. Like, I like the way he he relates to people. He's a good kid. And I know that you know he speaks, he speaks with the people at the top because of the numbers that he does and who he is. So I'm not doubting that some that he spoke to somebody who said that to him. My doubt is coming from the fact that, okay, why hasn't YouTube made an official statement? Because they have the power to end this whole shit by saying either, yo, this happened or this didn't happen.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:51

I think that I think there's I think it's a real thing of like trying to destroy Alo Focca because that nigga is very vocal and he kind of he he goes a little bit too crazy. But the thing is, because a little bit of that, a little bit of that Drake shit. Yeah, yeah, his ego. I think his ego is worse than his name.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:14

There's a lot, there's a lot of people that want to see Alo Folker fail.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:16

Because that nigga, bro, that nigga just be talking, come on, my whatever. It's like just yo disrespecting niggas, bro. I've not even Drake disrespects niggas like that nigga does. But my thing is, it's like from my understanding, and this goes back to the point of the British lady talking about that Clay wasn't uh Clay was chasing, what was it, uh social currency? Social currency. It's like do your fucking research. Nigga, if there was any it especially for somebody who's streaming 24 hours a day, seven days a week, non-stop, do you think that if there were bots involved in any of this shit, you think they'll leave his stream to fucking be playing like that, nigga? And that nigga what? Like, because he's getting paid. So it's like both are it's like, do you think that they'll just fucking go and allow bots to get that? Like, let's say it's only a hundred thousand people uh actually watching, but then the other day that nigga hit 2.2 million people. You don't think that shit already raises like red flags and niggas start investigating? Like his shit would have been shut down right away if if fucking they're like there are bots involved and he's uh running up numbers and doing all this shit.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:32

It's and you yeah, YouTube doesn't pay uh botted streams. Like once they see that there's bots, they remove the views, they're only gonna pay you for the views that you actually got. So, I mean, the the the payoff is not as big as some people think it is, and that's why if you notice now, there's a lot of YouTube content creators who in the past were doing a lot of you know gaming content, like so. This is big in the gaming industry, right? In terms of streaming. And a lot of gamers who did streaming content were botting, and YouTube's anti-botting policies and stuff like that have kind of just cut the the floor just removed the floor from under a lot of them, and a lot of them have switched to doing different content now because they don't they don't actually make the views that they were getting when they were botting it. Yeah, so like you've seen like the crackdown actually like do away with streamers who were living off of that. Alofoque is still here because he does not live off of that. Now, if that happened, again, there's also there's a world where that did happen where the stream did get botted. But I'm saying to for people to immediately jump to the conclusion that Santiago was the one behind that, that's the part that that doesn't sit well with me. Nah, and that and that's the part that bothers me. It's like, well, so we got why like why do we I get it? It's true what you're saying. Like, you know, he's he's disrespectful, he got a he got a big ego. I get that, I understand. But it's like, yo, we still we still tearing this dude down and we don't have proof of nothing.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:55

I feel like the the other part of this is like maybe someone And is that accolade?

SPEAKER_12 1:45:01

Let me ask you this. Do you think that accolade is worth it? Because that's what people are saying. He did it because he wanted Speed's streaming record to have come when he was with Alo Foque So that he could like he could brag about that. Like, so he could have that accolade on his thing, like, oh, this dude's highest this dude's highest stream was because he joined up with me. I don't You think that's worth the botting and that, whatever. Nah, nah, nah. And there's no way that Alo Foque would do that and think, oh, they're not gonna find out. Nigga, he works with YouTube, he knows how YouTube is about the shit. He knows they will YouTube is paying the most attention to those big ass streams. Nah, it's there, the YouTube employees go into work every day. When streams like this are going on, they go into work every day and they are focused on these shits. These this is the the work of the day.

SPEAKER_09 1:45:46

Nigga, just if you look at just the the super chats that are coming in, nigga, because every super chat, depending on how much money you send, those are points. So if you send$500, that's 500 points. Yo, there are niggas, bro, on the fucking chart, nigga. I'll pull it up real quick. That right now, bro, these niggas fucking uh uh what's it called points, bro? One nigga got 95,000 points, 93,000. Nigga, you're talking about almost 200 fucking thousand dollars, nigga. That's 80, then another got 87, 85, and 61. Then 45, nigga. But if you had all that shit, nigga, that is just money.

SPEAKER_12 1:46:28

Half a million dollars. Nigga, money just half a million generated just off super chat. Nigga, all fucking. And that's not two weeks. That's not talking about, that's not talking about the pay, the pays for the the views and all that shit or whatever. That's that's money. You're talking, you talk, we're talking big money shit here. I'm just look, I don't like that. I don't like that Santiago's getting thrown under the bus like that. Like people are just immediately saying, oh, he did that shit, he whatever, because this is who he is, and whatever. I'm like, yo, man, I don't know that to be who he is. I don't.

SPEAKER_09 1:47:00

Now, there was another Look who actually answered is there's a video.

SPEAKER_12 1:47:06

He's the biggest streamer in the world.

SPEAKER_09 1:47:12

The biggest streamer in the world.

SPEAKER_12 1:47:13

Well, Axe said that send that to me. I'll play it right now. That's good. Let's see what Ack had to say. Ac knows this shit. Where's this? IG?

SPEAKER_09 1:47:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:47:22

Yeah, send that shit to me. Why? What did I do now? Oh, my mother commented. Oh, she commented on my video about when I was talking about the marriage shit. Uh okay. OG, where we at?

SPEAKER_07 1:47:38

Here we go. Oh, he posted it. Yeah, he's been shitting on Speed's numbers. So they have Speed numbers here? He's tight now. From Jamaica. He's tight now, so he's shitting on. Yes, this guy's just shitting. These are shitting on people. Yeah, alright. Alright, so speeding them got some work to do. The the the number one streamer in the world is in Dominican Republic. It's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:21

Shouts out to Big Act, man. Um but that's the thing. It's like I don't like, cause there's two things here. I feel like I don't think Alo Foca would uh send like uh pay for bots to fucking get his fucking stream numbers up. He doesn't need to. It's like he doesn't need to. But then also, I also don't think speed speed wouldn't do it either.

SPEAKER_12 1:48:43

Speed doesn't speed wouldn't do it. But again, speaking to your point that you made, you you you legit just said, like, niggas don't fuck with Santiago. Oh yeah. Niggas want to see him take an L. If you're one of his ops, that's an that's an amazing chess move. Like, nigga, I'm about that shit.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:58

Because even because you know niggas is gonna say what they've been saying now. Because the back and forth that's going on, like you said, it's not speed and Alofoque, it's fans, it's one, but there's one dude.

SPEAKER_12 1:49:08

Now Santiago's been like letting off a little bit of shit because he feels like Speed kind of threw him under the bus. And I kind of agree with him. But again, this goes back to the same shit like with Kai. Like, if Momo was here, I'm pretty sure. I don't want to speak for him, but my opinion is that Momo would probably be like, no, Speed didn't throw him under the bus. He just said, I spoke to the person from YouTube, and that's what they told me, or whatever. My response is the same shit like with the Kai Sanasha at the awards. You have to know how shit is gonna be perceived. Yeah. When you are who you are.

SPEAKER_09 1:49:41

Because that's the thing. It's like you, like, if I would have been Speed, I would have been like, hey, okay, so you guys at YouTube release an official fucking put a like you said, an official statement.

SPEAKER_12 1:49:54

I wouldn't say it, I wouldn't set it on my stream until YouTube made the official statement. So that's After they made, and that's the thing, is that a lot of time niggas don't want to be, they don't want to look like, oh, nah, like I didn't know, or whatever. No, because YouTube could have made the statement and you you could have gone on your stream and said, listen, nigga, I'm speed. Obviously, I spoke with YouTube before. I didn't say it because I was waiting for their official comment. Now that that's out, I'll speak to it.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:17

Because it's like right now, it's like I also understand I love focus, because it's like, bro, you took that nigga, bro. He arrived to DR, and from the very beginning, you're the one taking him everywhere. You're bringing him everywhere. You're fucking like everything he's doing, everything he's seeing, all the fun that he had. Like, bro, he even took him to the house. He's he he fucking took him in a helicopter. Bro, he did all of this shit out of his own goddamn pocket. And for him, who's a grown-ass man, it's like, yo, this ungrateful little fucking kid comes here. I show him, give him the DR experience.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:52

And you and now you got niggas out there thinking I bought it just stream.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:56

Yo, and it's like, and I know that for that's what I'm saying. Like, I feel like Speed doesn't, Speed didn't realize that, like, how important this was for Alo Foque. Because I don't think he knows, yeah. Yeah, because in the end, he's been accused of this for fucking for years. Because in the end, even when he does his regular shows, uh the the the the little cabina that he does where everybody gets together and he pods. Yeah, it's like nigga, when he goes live and he does nigga, that should be getting a million views. Yeah, and it's like, but it's like I told someone uh I was talking to somebody, like, yo, but how the fuck? It's like people really are. It's like, bro, if there's one thing Spanish people have, is that they lot they love good TV. Hell yeah. Why you think Telemundo TV, nigga?

SPEAKER_12 1:51:41

No, no, not just TV, content. Spanish people is one of the best fucking markets for content, bro. We love we're we're content consumers. We love it.

SPEAKER_09 1:51:49

Nigga, it's we grew up on that shit nigga. What was Salvador Gigante? Nothing, nigga. Just a bunch of fucking bullshit, nigga. Content, nigga. Content. There was so much going on in that bitch, nigga. You be sensory overload, nigga.

SPEAKER_12 1:52:01

Like that ass. That might be why I'm returning.

SPEAKER_09 1:52:06

Yo, nigga, Salado Gigante was the most wild shit, nigga. It was what was it? Some niggas said what nigga said was like all of a sudden it's like yo, there's uh it's a little there's little kids playing with a jump rope, and then there's a bitch in bikini, and then a nigga dressed in a black KKK suit. Straight up, nigga. You don't know what the fuck is going on. Oh, but nah, bro. That shit, I don't know. I just feel like they're always gonna find a reason to attack that nigga. I feel like the fact that he's making numbers, even the fucking music, bro. That nigga dropped up bachata, bro. Uh what was it with one of the artists that's in there? Nigga, that shit sounds so goddamn fire. Fucking uh nigga drop like even like I was telling Rebecca this shit.

SPEAKER_11 1:52:47

Let me play that shit up.

SPEAKER_09 1:52:48

The all the fucking uh songs that he drops, like on the first list, you know, eh? But yo, you play it so much, bro, all in the house because it's his music and it's YouTube and they're all they're gonna flag you down if it's not your shit. Yo, he should. I might, yeah, YouTube might do that to me right now if I want to do that. Nah, you good, don't do it. We've already pushed the limit already. Yeah, I went nuts today. But it's like, yo, all of that shit, bro. It's like that that shit to me, nigga, is so fucking fire. Cause it's like also, nigga, you listening, nigga, and all you hear is pla neta, pla pla, and then there's that. Start off with that. And all of a sudden it's like, uh, tu not lap, paete sacapunta. That nigga, uh uh uh, what is it? The bachata comes out. Then Michael J1 and all these niggas drop fucking Pocatera, nigga, a fucking a trap song, nigga. That shit so hot, bro. It's like all of that shit, one after the other. Like, that nigga is successful. That nigga has a mind for this shit. And it's like, what do you think about what do you think about what Lapis said?

SPEAKER_12 1:53:49

Did you see that? Nah. Lapis put out a video. You know what? Let me could I find him? I don't think I'm gonna be able to find it. No, I need to find it because I think it's better. I think it's better if it's if it's about Alo Foca. His clip. Yeah. I'm gonna just go to his I'm gonna just go to his page. I don't think it's I don't think it's on his page though. Or was it a story? It might have been a story. No, I don't think it was that.

SPEAKER_09 1:54:19

Him defending Alo Foca?

SPEAKER_12 1:54:21

No, no, no, no, he can't, he he subbed them. Here it is, right here, I got it.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:25

Una lambonería. De que vienen unos tigres, de que de Estados Unidos, o de otro país, ya ustedes están de que a los tigres de ustedes, digo poniéndolo por el piso. De que a la gente de ustedes, ya ustedes digan que el de afuera, dice que es más bacano que el de aquí. Normal. Porque ustedes son así, ustedes tienen un complejo de guacanagarí que no se le quita, ustedes digan que el de afuera, de que ustedes son de que son el de afuera, de que a todas, de que yo, porque tú estás loco, eso es, eso es. Entonces, vamos a ti, tú conoces a gente. Esa gente te conoce a ti. ¿Te entiendes? Los tuyos somos nosotros. ¿Cómo tú no vas a minimizar de que nosotros poniendo de que otro de que viene de fuera? Nivel de qué. Vamos el único nivel que hay tan salud. A mí no me digan el nivel de que de que fulano tengo otro nivel con un maldito barrigón.

SPEAKER_12 1:55:26

So when I hear it, Calle Hong was like, oh, it's like whatever, tiradera, Santiago, whatever. But when I hear that now, it's funny, when I first heard it, I heard it after reading the captions. I was like, oh, like he's saying that, like basically, like Santiago was like hyped to go and join up with speed instead of like just doing something with other Dominican niggas. But now that I hear it again, I feel more like he's just talking about like the Dominicans who have been defending Speed with this whole bot shit. Yeah. And saying, like, oh nah, like fuck Santiago, like he he definitely did that shit or whatever, instead of defending Santiago because he's their people.

SPEAKER_09 1:56:04

Nah, and I because that's the thing, bro. I I feel like, but we're isn't that shit just human nature? It's like, and I think you and I had this conversation when we we spoke about like doing uh when um do like we doing, nigga. I ain't do shit. You and Pete doing uh NYYU and like you guys interviewing all these famous uh uh like baseball players and people that are like in the industry, yeah. It's like it's hard for people to freaking know that you're about to sit down with someone who's like super fucking popular, super fucking rich, and not want to fucking also in a sense brag about it. Like I don't know Pete like that. I don't know, but the thing is, it's like one of the things that we do, uh I feel like as people in general, and I include myself, even though I haven't had the opportunity really to oh no, I've met a few celebrities and I haven't acted that way because this is not on my top tier. But the point is that there are people, bro, like for example, when speed, before Speed got there, all Alo Foca kept talking about, oh, I'm about to, uh the biggest streamer in the world is coming to DR and he wants to be with Alo Falke. He wants to be with me. And it was like, that's all that nigga kept talking about. It's like, and who's the one that's gonna take him around? Alo Folke. It's like but it's like, oh, Mama Moon Beach. Oh, toy too there. They're like, that's that's that was his thing. Then he got, he's got, he links up with him, he shows him around. Yo, the next day after all that shit came out, that the bots and all.

SPEAKER_12 1:57:42

And that, see, now when you say that, see, I didn't I didn't know all that. Nigga. See, now now when you say all that, then it makes it look like Lappies is throwing shots at Santiago because he's like, you getting all out of pocket, talking about he's the biggest streamer in the world, whatever. And we just heard Ak say, like, actually, nigga, you're the biggest streamer in the world.

SPEAKER_09 1:58:01

Like, nah, and it's it's that, nigga. Yo, nigga, that bro, that nigga's been hyping that shit up, bro, for fucking a week. Nigga, it was last week when he was like, oh, streamer my grande del mundo. Alofoque. Santiago Matia. Okay, the nigga hyping that shit up. Nigga, that's Rebecca. Nigga, when we when I found out, no, when that stream happened, nigga, I was like, yo, this shit is crazy. And Rebecca was like, oh my god, like this, this shit is legit crazy. And then you go, you're watching them all, then you see big poppy nigga with fucking speed, uh uh Santiago, and then all of a sudden you see Phantom. Yo, nigga record a song together. Uh uh J1 and fucking Speed record a song together. Bro, shit was a moment in time.

SPEAKER_12 1:58:54

I was so glad Phantom was there. Oh, I was so and that's what that's why I said what I said. I put out a reel and I was like, you know, that's one thing I will say about Santiago, though. Like, he does try he does try to rep for us a lot.

SPEAKER_09 1:59:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:59:07

Like he made sure Phantom was a part of that moment.

SPEAKER_09 1:59:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:59:10

Like I get it, like, yo, speed is coming, whatever, but he's like, damn, like, El Dominicanito que tap I know that he's here too, nigga, because he belongs. Like, he he was supposed to fucking be there. You know what I mean? So I'm glad he was there. Like, he he needed to be a part of that moment. I don't, and I get it, he wasn't the main point, but like that moment's not to me personally watching, that moment's not the same if I don't see Phantom somewhere involved.

SPEAKER_09 1:59:35

Like, no, and that and that was the thing. It was like it was a moment in time, and it was something that not not just not for fuck Santiago for a second. It's just you said you want to fuck Santiago? No, no, that's just for a second. Fuck Santiago for a second. Nah, the thing is, it's like the mo that that because uh that day when he finally arrived to DR, I was showing my mother-in-law, I was like, yo, like this kid where he went to Paraguay, he went to Argentina, he went to Brazil, he went here, he went there. And nigga, I was looking at the street, and it's like to see the presence that he had in Paraguay, in Brazil, in all of this shit, and then seeing how when he arrived to DR, how the people went fucking crazy. How the people were like, yo, yeah, come at the uh pica pollo, try this. And it's like, oh, it's like nigga, the sick was in Jamaica, and they took that nigga to a KFC. It's like, nigga, why the fuck would you take the like if this is you you want him to try like over there in Paraguay? I remember they gave him one of the the shit that they call uh uh I don't even know. I'm gonna go and try. This is Mad Lake, so I can't remember. Man, you but the Paraguayan.

SPEAKER_11 2:00:54

You gotta rep for the Paraguayan, you gotta rep for them, man.

SPEAKER_09 2:00:58

But the thing is, it's like yo, but in DR, nigga, that shit went crazy. Like that. No, no, it was about it, nigga, it was a moment of time.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:06

It was a big time, it's a big time. And it was like a big thing for the whole country, man.

SPEAKER_09 2:01:09

People with hype for all of that shit, nigga, just to go away. Because he also went to Puerto Rico, and Puerto Rico was also fucking pretty big. Yeah, it's like, but the thing was DR just looked like a fucking wild ass thing. And he even had set up for that night, uh uh, because he he everybody knows that. Oh nah nah nah. So since J1 is in the house, he was like, oh, this is J1, he's the one that sings this song. It's like, and tonight we're doing he's doing a concert, so it's like we have the stage already. It's like, bro, he planned everything, and it's like at the end of the day, for all that shit to happen, and then it was almost like it was all for nothing, bro. I would be fucking tight making it.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:46

Make a comment like that, and shit goes to the I think. Look, though the the I think there's an interesting conversation to be had with what Lapi said, and I think like that there is something there. He's like that, you know, us, you know, Dominican, but it's not just Dominican, I think it's people of color too. Like, so like for whatever reason, a lot of times we are so quick to celebrate the people from like other cultures and whatever, and it's not just it's not just with like speed or whatever. It happens a lot of times with like white people, like where just because like they're white and they're American, like we assume it has to be better. And I say we because I'm a Dominican, like I don't do this, but like you'll see a lot of people do that, and it's like like the point that Lapis is making is like bro, like we we do dope shit, we have dope artists, we have dope content creators, we have dope all of that. Like, bro, we don't gotta minimize ourselves, and he said, like, you know, putting putting our people like minimizing our people to fucking big up other people. It's like you don't gotta do that. And it brought me it brought me to a place where it's like, yo, it it's true, like that shit happens in our fucking communities, where it's like people just will be quicker to be like, oh, I'ma fuck with this dude, like I'm gonna fuck with Kai, I'm gonna fuck with speed, I'm gonna fuck with that. And it's like, but like, what about your boy who like all right, your boy might be streaming games or whatever? Obviously he's not as big as speed or Kai or Phantom or whatever, but like if that's that nigga is from the same hood as you, or like I don't know, like yeah, I went to school together, like, why not fuck with his shit? But niggas would be like, nah, nah, nah, nigga, I'm fucking with speed, I'm fucking with uh Phantom, I'm fucking with Kai, I'm fucking with whatever. And it's like that's big, like that's really big in our culture. And it's like, why? Like, why? I and I I made it real about today. I was like, I just think, I just think like that's just how niggas is. It's like niggas is just more like programmed to like, well, I'm gonna fuck with this, like this is the shit that's popping, or whatever. It's like, yeah, like I know you, but it's like, you know, it's like you're not on that level yet. But then I'm like, say, say that nigga that you didn't fuck with does get on that level, then it's like, oh shit, I know that nigga. But it's like nigga, you could have been there from the basement, you could have been there from day one, like, yo, now I'm here, I'm supporting. And it's like niggas, niggas don't, niggas don't do that. And I think that's kind of another. I also I still think he is talking about the fans too. Like, I know he's I think he's talking about Santiago. I didn't know that part that you said. Yeah, that that makes it look like, okay, he's definitely talking about Santiago, but I I could also see it about the fans too, like niggas getting all hype and getting out like all out of character because this black dude from the states came and it's like, bro, like Santiago is here, he's always here, like he's he's with us.

SPEAKER_09 2:04:31

And I think it's to that point that you made. It's the the fact that because that was that's what I was trying to say. But then nigga, I started doing a word salad. But the thing is, it's not I like word salad. I like salad, man. But the thing is, is that like you said, he probably saw speed and was like, this is what's popping now. This kid fucking makes tons of money off of fucking streaming. Because even me, nigga, when I heard that thing that the the the the highest stream count that he had was like 800 or 900 fucking thousand people at once or some shit like that in Indonesia, or it might have been.

SPEAKER_12 2:05:11

No, it was it was one, yeah, it was one, it was 1.2, I think.

SPEAKER_09 2:05:14

Oh 1.2, yeah. It was it was over a mil. Oh so I was like, I I like I was in shock. I was like, really? Yeah. And I was like, every like this nigga kept talking about one of the biggest streamers, biggest streamers. And even when Mois was here and he was like, oh, Mafia Thon, when it was going on. Oh yeah, I was like, I don't uh that's the other thing. Was this a hundred, he got to a million subscribers?

SPEAKER_12 2:05:39

Uh not yeah, not not um, I don't think I don't think it's concurrent views.

SPEAKER_09 2:05:42

Uh yeah. So it's like like when I hear shit like that, it's like bro, this nigga Alo Foca, bro, at fucking 7 a.m. nigga has a million people watching this shit. Yeah. It's like to me, nigga, that shit, that shit is fucking. I'm one of those people, but that shit is fucking insane. And it's like and it's like to for it, but in his mind, Alo Foca over coffee is nothing.

SPEAKER_12 2:06:05

Yeah, it's like I can't have that kind of chaos over coffee. I got enough chaos in my crib at that time.

SPEAKER_09 2:06:10

It's like in his mind, he's probably like, you know, uh uh, this kid is from the states. He's oh, he's been doing this for a couple years. It's like I've seen the success, I see him in commercials, I see him, and it's like I feel like when he sees that, it's not so much that he's uh just a streamer. Speed is fucking everywhere. He's all he's he's in sports, he's in fucking wrestling. Like nigga was in WrestleMania this year. It's like all of that shit, and you like damn, he really is big. And I just looked it up because they were also talking about money when uh what is it? Uh oh shit, Strickland big uh he beat him? Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:06:48

Oh, that's huge.

SPEAKER_09 2:06:49

What? Oh wow, it was split decision, but that's crazy. I didn't think that was wild. I didn't think I would live to see a day that one of them niggas lost. Them Muslim niggas, bro. Yeah, man. But the thing is, it's like when I uh when I looked it up right now, it's like Alufoca's net worth is about$50 million. Speed's net worth is about good 30 to 40 million according to Google. Whether it's right or wrong, it's an estimate.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:19

But it's the it's the difference because Santiago could be the biggest streamer in the world, but he's from DR. Yeah, and it's like so and and and he's the and again, biggest streamer in the world, but mainly Spanish speaking. Like, no, not mainly, Spanish speaking.

SPEAKER_09 2:07:33

And it's only and all of this shit is centered only in DR. Where Speed, he's in the biggest market in the world, which is the fucking United States of America. He's also traveling all over the world doing all of this shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:46

And it's uh he's doing again. Speed does it in English, uh, yeah. Like Speed's going to all these Spanish countries, he's going to Asian countries, he's going wherever, but this is English. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like that the English language is is important. Like, and I think that's that that might be one of the one of the obstacles too. Like, I think with with with like our people is stuff like it's like the hang up on stuff like that is like, nah, like, ten que sea en español, yo no sé eso, it's like yeah, but like you gotta, you, you might have to like look, if, if imagine, imagine Alofoque like did a Spanglish version of this shit. Like, imagine if the next casa he came and grabbed a bunch of American influencers. The American influencers don't have the followings that the the people that he's had on the previous casas have. But what the American followers, what the American influencers lack in followings, they have in reach. And that sounds crazy. People can say, well, lower follower count, lower reach. No. Because of the English, if you put that ability to speak English and Spanish on Alo Focus platform, that shit is gonna be a nuke for the streaming world.

SPEAKER_09 2:09:04

No, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_12 2:09:05

That's at least that's that's what I think. Nah, it's a fact. You'll get a lot of people complaining about you at the vaina, you don't intend to know nah, it's true, it's true. There'll be a lot of that. But imagine he figured out a way to subtitle that shit in real time. Oh, and AI is AI is getting close. The moment that he could they could figure some shit out where it's like this the shit is subtitling in real time. And good and good, accurate subtitles, and he can bring people over that, you know, bring, I'm telling you, bring some of the influencers from over here. Bring my nigga Splu out there. Like, I mean, I think if the bag is right, he he probably do it. Like, oh, that's a fact. Bring like real bring a part. I'm telling you, but all these dudes, bring them out there, see what's up. Like, you you might could do something crazy.

SPEAKER_09 2:09:45

Nigga, especially like right now, nigga. Splu could go to that house now, nigga. There's still fucking a month and a half left before this shit finishes. Santiago, manda splue, buca splow, splow, nigga. 1000% he could. 100%. 1,000%.

SPEAKER_12 2:10:04

But yeah, I don't know. I just I liked I liked the point that Lapis made, and that's why I spoke about it today. Because I was like, look, man, as somebody who also makes content, like, he spoke to my soul, man. It's like it's hard. Like, but I was telling I was talking with Lucas the other day. I was sorry, it was something completely unrelated. But I used the same verse because this this is one of my favorite verses in the entire Bible. Because the shit just is so fucking true. And it's when they talk like and it's not even there, it's not Jesus talking. It's them talking about Jesus. They're like, you know, Jesus wasn't able to perform any miracles there because of their lack of faith. And where was there? His hometown. His his own people. The people who saw him grow up, the people who knew his parents, who knew Joseph, who knew Mary, who saw when he was a kid, who probably were there when like he ran away, and Mary and then were going crazy, like, yo, we lost Jesus, we don't know what's up. Like the people who saw all that, witnessed all that, saw him grow up, whatever, saw him turn 30, start his public ministry, and was like, This nigga? Nah, bro, I know this nigga. His pops is a carpenter from Nazareth, man. Them niggas is broke boys. Like, like what I mean. Like they like those people, and it's like those were the ones that didn't believe. But he went all around, everywhere else, and everywhere else got mad love, got mad people to believe, mad people converted, mad people whatever. But his own hometown, he went there and they was like, nah, like nigga, we know you. Like, you some big preacher now? Like, nah, are you the son of God? Nigga, you the son of Joseph. Like you wugging. What are you talking about? And like that shit always hits home. Cause like it's like whatever you do in life, like whatever, it's like if you're trying to do something different, like you you're gonna, you're going to deal with that. And it's like hearing Say that it's like to me, it's the same thing. It's like if you're a content creator, if you're doing something like what we do here with the Pi Show, um, what I do on my Instagram or whatever, it's like it's an understanding that like you kind of have to have, and it sucks. It sucks. Like, there's days where you sit there and you're like, yo, why why don't like these people fuck with my shit? And I remember talking to, well, uh, I'm not gonna say, I'm gonna say his name, like I don't know if he said it publicly or whatever, but like I was talking to somebody who does content creation, big in the content creation game, and has blown up, and the nigga said something to me that was like, it's not a church nigga, this is not a church nigga, but immediately I referred it back to that Bible verse. I was like, oh shit, like because the nigga was like, yo, the crazy thing is like, yo, when I first started, like niggas had me fucked up because like I would be posting, I would be doing shit, and my shit would get like, you know, like two likes, three likes, no comments, nothing, or whatever. And like that was it. And I would be like, damn, like, but I see my niggas and they're like reposting so-and-so shit or liking so-and-so shit, or putting so-and-so shit in their story, and like they'll talk to me and I'll talk to them and they'll be like, yo, oh, I see what you're doing, whatever, it's cool. But like, they not fucking with my shit. And I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, like, damn, nigga, like, I'm not funny, like, I'm not good, I'm not this, I'm not that. And it's like, but I kept doing it. I just kept going, I stuck with it, I stuck with it. And then I started to blow up, and it just boom, boom, boom. Next thing you know, it's like this, I get this, I get that, I get this, I get that. And then now I'm here where I am today. I didn't get here because of the people that I was looking at to like support me. I got here because of strangers. Yeah, and that shit was like, whoa, my nigga, like that shit was a mind fuck for me because I'm like, damn, bro, like I've been doing content since 2018, and like the baseball stuff since 2018, whatever, but like this is the first year, 2026 is the first year where I can truly say, like, I am literally doing all of the content, all the content that I've ever wanted to do, I'm doing it now. Everything. Like, I'm not, there's nothing that I'm like, nah, I'm not gonna talk about this. I'm not gonna talk about that. Like, look, I want to talk about basketball, I talk about it on the pie show. I want to talk about baseball, I do that on NYYU. I want to do comedy and make funny videos, I put them shits on IG. I want to talk about family shit or whatever, I put them shits on IG. I want to talk about my faith, I do a series on fucking Instagram. Everything that I wanna fucking do, everything that's a facet of who Cito is, all together, all the pieces that make me me, I'm not not doing it anymore. I'm not hiding it or like, oh, I'm not gonna do that, because whatever. Like, no, I'm doing all of it. I'm doing all of it. And it's like, whoever's gonna fuck with it is gonna fuck with it. And whoever's not gonna fuck with it, well, they're not gonna fuck with it. But at the end of the day, it's like, look, if the shit starts to blow up, it's probably gonna be because it's and that's what I'm saying. When I look back this week and I saw the way that some of those, some of those clips did, the well, especially two of them from the pie show, I was like, fuck, nigga, like talking about over 20k views, nigga. I can't name 20k people that I know. I can't name 10k people that I know. If I sat here and started to name the people that I know that listen to the show, I don't get I don't get to over a hundred. So 20k. So you talk about what? Over 19 random people that I've never shaken their hand and said, yo, what's up or whatever. I don't know these niggas from Adam. And they decided, nah, fuck with this shit. Like, follow, repost, story. Let me send this to my man's and let's talk about it in our group chat. What? Yeah, nigga, like that's how that shit works. That's how that shit works. Like, we here, we doing our thing or whatever. Like, we all got people that we know, we all got people that we fuck with, we got people that we close with, or whatever, they know that we do the podcast, and it's like, you know, I don't again, I'm not trying to shade anybody. If anybody hears this or whatever, but again, they're not gonna hear it because the ones I'm talking about don't listen. They don't listen to this. But it's like, look, if if if you know, if you know, if the shoe fits, you gotta wear it. Only hit dogs holler. You know, the people that are the closest to us that could be like making sure that they like and repost and share the story and watch every episode and give feedback or whatever, a lot of them aren't doing it.

SPEAKER_09 2:16:18

And the thing is, and and that's something just to add, because other people, other people are because you and Zay were talking about it that time, uh, what was it, two weeks ago? Because I I was sick and I wasn't here. And that's how it was two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_12 2:16:30

And also, you got Zay sick.

SPEAKER_09 2:16:33

You see how that works, right?

SPEAKER_12 2:16:34

Two weeks ago, J Dot's sick. Last week, J Dot's back. This week, Zay is sick.

SPEAKER_09 2:16:38

Yeah, and I'm gonna die.

SPEAKER_12 2:16:38

So next week, I'm gonna die.

SPEAKER_09 2:16:40

Yeah, nigga. But I I was thinking about this shit, and it it especially to that point that you made. But when you and Zay were talking about that, about it, that's something that kept clicking in my mind. It takes a very strong person to see someone succeed and not really give a fuck in the sense that you don't feel envy. It takes a lot of people.

SPEAKER_12 2:17:03

Oh, like support, like support through, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 2:17:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it takes a real strong person. But the thing is, like right now, and and this is like I if the shoe fits, I don't give a there's a lot of you motherfuckers that that are so-called friends that at the end of the day don't support this because and some and some of you have told me to my face, it's like, uh, it's like, but I don't know, it's a waste of time, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And it's like that that's your opinion. Which you're entitled to. Yeah, but the thing is that that's the one thing I will say. When this thing fucking blows up, because I know it will, not because it's like, I just I I because I don't do shit unless I think the shit is gonna work out. And I'm pretty sure the four other niggas here feel the same fucking way. Not four, three other niggas. It's a it's two, but but the thing is, it's a I wouldn't do some shit. Is and even if it doesn't work out, we'll I I'm just like with AF, we'll change shit up and we'll fucking have to revamp it. But this shit, one way or another, will work out. But a lot of you fucking stand from afar and just say, oh, look at them wasting their time. Oh yeah, look at them fucking water.

SPEAKER_12 2:18:20

They think they're gonna do this, they think they're gonna be podcasters, they think they're gonna- I got somebody the other day, that shit, that shit had me dying.

SPEAKER_09 2:18:27

And it's like the one thing I will tell you, it's like the same way you just wanna talk shit and hate from afar, and I uh and and keep doing it. But whenever shit starts popping off, don't start asking, oh, yo, I heard that you guys are doing this event, or I heard that you guys are doing this. Let me get on the no, bro.

SPEAKER_12 2:18:52

No, I'm gonna tell you how right now the answer is no.

SPEAKER_09 2:18:55

Because it's like I I like Big No. It fucking sucks to know, nigga, that your shit is going, you're trying to fucking make something out of yourself, and it's like at the end of the day, like your people, niggas who you think you're close with, they don't that'll be that yeah, that that'll support you through thick and thin nigga are the same niggas, bro, that don't even fucking look at your shit. Every time I look at the shit, nigga, uh, of like the views and whatever the fuck, and seeing that only 2% of my actual followers fucking actually watch whatever the fuck I post, and that the rest of the fucking views come from some random stream. Non-followers, yo, nigga, that shit to me, nigga, is is crazy. Nigga, that shit makes me want to unfollow every fucking getting close.

SPEAKER_12 2:19:45

I tell you right now, man. And I I'll say it, I'll say it because I I I'll tell him because I love him and we go back and we grow to but nigga. Sam said the other day, he's like, nigga, I see Cetho more than I see my wife on Instagram. He was talking about it. Nigga, every time I open Instagram, I see Cetho, like the nigga posting, whatever. I'm like, so you seeing all my shit and you not liking my shit, my nigga? Like, nah, we need to rectify that, my nigga, because you one of my niggas. What the fuck you mean you see me more than you see your wife, and you not liking my shit, bro? Really? Like, that's crazy. What does a like cost you? What does a double tap cost, niggas? This is my question. What does that cost you? Just to be like, oh, look at my nigga, double tap, and keep scrolling. I don't give a fuck. Don't even listen to the fucking video. You don't want to listen to the video, don't fucking listen to the fucking video. Don't kind like, bro, what does a like a repost cost you? Like, and to that same token, I'm I'm a shout out fucking me sile. Nigga, me side repost fucking everything. Me Silent is one of the first people to see the shit, and one of the first people to repost the shit almost every fucking time, bro. Almost every fucking time. That's why I try to do the same shit when I see his shit. Nigga, drop a like, nigga, throw a comment on that shit. Put that shit on my story, nigga. I don't give a fuck. Oh, nigga, some video, like, yo, you need a trainer. I'm putting that shit on my story, like, yo, best trainer in the world, whatever. Why? Because that's my nigga, bro. At the end of the day, like, what the fuck does it cost me to just be like, yo, my nigga's a trainer, like, yo, fuck with my boy, like he's doing this. Like, what does it cost? Y'all to repost the podcast and be like, yo, if y'all into podcasts, check out my nigga's podcast. It don't cost y'all nothing. But again, and I this next part, this ain't Sam. This is just, this is general. Like, again, it goes back to the point that you're saying. Like, you got a lot of people that just from afar sit there and be like, oh nah, like these niggas think they're gonna be like, uh, what's it called? The 520, whatever, 520 or whatever. Yeah. They think they're gonna be 520, they think they're gonna be 85 south, or they think they're gonna be the dick. Everybody wants to sit back from a distance and say what people think they're gonna do. You don't think you you don't know what niggas think they're gonna do. I was saying the other day, somebody came, somebody said something to me the other day, like, oh shit. They sent me one of my videos. They was like, this nigga think he's funny now. I was like, I think I'm funny. So what I did, because I'm an asshole, I screenshotted the engagement and I responded. I was like, I don't think I'm funny, they think I'm funny. Because that video had 10,000 views, and that video has over 200 likes, and that video has over 30 something comments, and that video was up for not even a day at that point. And I don't even have a thousand followers yet on my account, but I will very soon. And then after I get that thousand, I'll get to 5,000 and I'll keep doing it because I'm not gonna fucking stop. That's the one thing that I realized in this fucking year, and I'm kicking myself and I'm angry that it took me to fucking get to 2026 to fucking turn 35 to get to this point that I am today. Because I feel like if I would have got to this fucking point five years ago, ain't no telling where I would be right now. But I'm gonna tell you this where I'm gonna be five years from now, just wait on it. Because now it's fucking pedal to the metal, balls to the wall, nigga. I'm in this shit. I'm doing all the fucking content that I like. And believe it or fucking not, I was telling Zay, I was like, nigga, if you would have told me this shit, I said it on the podcast, I think. If you would have told me this shit a couple years ago, like, oh, on social media, like the best content that people are gonna like from you is probably the last thing that you're even thinking or whatever. And it's like it's crazy because like, bro, I never would just do videos just like social commentary, making fun of shit, roasting shit or whatever, doing comedy shit. But it's like, nigga, I love fucking comedy. Nigga, I fucking grew up on that shit, nigga. I fucking love that shit. Like, it's it's it's akin to rap to me. Like, I hold rap and hip-hop and comedy right there. Like, that's how much I fucking love it. I'm talking about like the stand-up shit. But now when you bring up fucking Instagram and TikTok and Twitter and all that shit, I love those fucking creators that do the funny videos with a nigga. I that's the shit that be on my top. That's the shit that I love the most or whatever. But I if you would have told me a couple years ago, like, oh, you know, if you start doing those videos, those will be the videos that perform the best for you, I would have been like, no, it won't. Like, why would why would that be it? Like, I'm working so hard on this baseball shit. Yeah, like I'm putting in so much fucking work on this baseball shit. I'm fucking editing the videos, I'm fucking studying the stats, I'm watching the fucking games, I'm doing the fucking research and busting my ass on this fucking baseball shit. And that's not the shit that works. That honestly speaking, for me, for me, the videos that I post, the ones that have done the best, the ones that have started pushing my account and then subsequently pushing everything else I post, i.e., the pie show, thank you very much, has been the comedy shit. Ever since I started doing that, everything else started getting a boost. The only thing that hasn't seen the same boost is the baseball shit. I still get the same exact shit on everything I post, baseball related.

SPEAKER_09 2:24:29

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_12 2:24:30

That's but that's the game. Yeah, that's how it is. That's the algorithm. That's the algorithm, and that's that's just the world, that's the ether telling me to my face, like, bro, this is what people want to see from you, believe it or not. I know what I know what you thought, and I know what your ideas were, but like if you're serious about this content shit, this is the path. This is what people like from you.

SPEAKER_11 2:24:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:24:53

And you can't argue, you can't argue with the you can't argue with the like. You you can't bro, like, look, I'm telling you, like right now, I'm gonna tell you right now, it's not even I could I could want I could want it all I could all the I'm telling you, as much as I wish that Look, okay, look, look, this is the perfect shit right here. As much as I this is my preview for for the the Texas Rangers and the Yankees. That shit has 397 views, right? Right next to it is the Met Gala review that I think is is either the same day or the day before. That one's pushing almost 5,000 now. You can't what do you how so who so what I'm gonna argue with? What I'm gonna argue with what I'm gonna argue with when I got numbers, it's right, and they they just so happen to be right next to each other on the page. What I'm gonna argue with. And then the one before that, the one before that is our Drake clip or whatever from the day before that, and that one's over 8,000, 8,324. So what I'm gonna argue with? Yeah, as much as I want to, nigga, and I have put in the fucking work and the time and the effort and every fucking thing. Nigga, I'm telling you right now, you could call it bias, you could say, oh, that's C through, he thinks he knows everything, he's probably whatever. I don't give a fuck. Think what you want. I don't care. When it comes to this fucking baseball shit, my nigga, it ain't a lot of niggas out there that know more about that shit than me. Nigga, I live and breathe that shit for a very long fucking time. I'm not putting out bad baseball content. I promise you, I'm not. But that's not what people want to see from me. It just isn't. It just isn't, right? In terms of my personal page. Now, when I am on NYY Underground and I'm doing designated spitters or I'm doing all rides or whatever, those numbers obviously speak for themselves there. Those numbers speak for themselves there. Shout out to Pete. Pete has said it many times. Like, listen, man, we do what we do, right? Because nigga, we see what we see. And this, this, this works. So let's keep doing that. And I will. But I'm talking about here on this, like when I'm seeing that, I'm like, bro, like that shit was a fucking rude awakening, but a good awakening for real. Just to see that and be like, okay, cool. Because it's like, even when I was just doing the pie show stuff and the baseball clips, in my head, I was like, well, you know, because um I do all this baseball stuff and I'm affiliate, and I, you know, I freaking affiliated over here, and we got a big following there, and I and I do the baseball stuff there. I'm like, that stuff will eventually help the pie show clips to start to fucking catch and do well. Nope.

unknown 2:27:21

Nope.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:22

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. You know what helped the pie show? You know what, you know what helped the pie show to have over 20k views with two clips this week?

SPEAKER_09 2:27:32

The Matt Gallery.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:33

Me talking about Doja Cat looking like an organic condom. That's the shit that people like. That's the shit that people like, oh my god, it's just so funny. You know how many text messages I got? I got text messages from people I haven't talked to in years.

SPEAKER_09 2:27:46

Because that's it.

SPEAKER_12 2:27:46

It was like, yo, nigga, what yo, that doja cat shit that shit had me on. I was like, bro, I'm just that's nigga. And it's that if you know me, that's something that I would have said just talking. Like, we would go outside after the shit is over and be like, yo, you seen that Meg Gala shit? And I would deadass have just said to you, this is a doja cat. It's been like an organic condom. Like, why is she dressed like that? Like, that's this is how I am. Like, this is who I am. Nigga, that's that's that's the shit that's working, and that's the shit that's working and translating to this. So if you think I'm about to stop that, nigga, no, I'm about to kick that bitch into overdrive. Nigga, we about to see some more posts. I got some more jokes for you niggas. Don't worry, it's coming. And you a lot of you niggas is jokes, so you make it easy.

SPEAKER_09 2:28:28

So with that, bro, that that's all I'll fucking say, nigga. It's a I I'm really sick and tired. And it's like some of you probably are gonna hear this and say, but it's a I really am sick and tired. And it's a I say this with as much respect as possible.

SPEAKER_12 2:28:46

So you suck my you imagine.

SPEAKER_09 2:28:49

If you don't got nothing good to say, it's like and you don't want to support, yo, stay in your lane. But also, whenever you start seeing niggas succeed, start seeing niggas, and it's like I know one of you recently was like, oh, but you you don't support uh NYYU. I was like, one, as much as I hate the Yankees, if these niggas was just starting, oh, you damn sure bet I would be supported. It's like why? Because at the end of the day, it's like, yo, let's get them where they need to be.

SPEAKER_12 2:29:20

I'll take a like though. A like is a like, I'll take a like.

SPEAKER_09 2:29:22

I do, I'd be like, I do be liking, uh uh, especially like on on YouTube. No, the YouTube.

SPEAKER_12 2:29:28

No, you yeah, you guys got pulled up to the YouTube.

SPEAKER_09 2:29:30

But but the thing is, it's like anybody who's like up and start, like this thing's here. It's like, yo, this nigga does so much fucking shit out there. And it's like, I've never gone up to this thing. It's like, yo, bro, next time you you you're with Dylan Batanz is hit me up, yo, hit me up, invite me. It's like, every time, yo, bro, that shit is crazy, bro. I can't believe, yo, keep doing you. That's it. That's it. Nigga, it's like not because tampoco you no soil. I and I just don't give a fuck about how much money or who the fuck you are. And there's only very few people. On top of that least list, you ever meet Alicia Keys, my brother? Call me. I will be there and probably get arrested.

SPEAKER_12 2:30:09

But the thing is, it's like if Swiss Beast don't get to you first, man. I hear his hands.

SPEAKER_09 2:30:14

But my Tomahawk. He's a rough rider, bro. Nigga, that Tamahawk came in, nigga. He was a rough rider. He still got the vest, dude. Shout out to what's his name? Uh Macho Man.

SPEAKER_12 2:30:22

Macho Man. Macho King.

SPEAKER_09 2:30:24

Macho King, nigga.

SPEAKER_12 2:30:26

Macho King is a he's a he's a legend. He's a G.

SPEAKER_09 2:30:29

I'm fucking. See, and Macho is one of those.

SPEAKER_12 2:30:31

Mach is one of those. Mach supports everything. Everything's like.

SPEAKER_09 2:30:37

God damn.

SPEAKER_12 2:30:38

But yeah, man. I think look, two hours 30, man, we did it. I'll tell you that. We did it. Two hours 30, only two of your four hosts, and we still dropped a freaking gem. This episode's gonna be amazing. I can't wait to listen to it back. I think this episode is gonna be amazing. Um got anything else for them when we wrap it up.

SPEAKER_09 2:30:55

Fuck you, fake supporters, nigga. That's what I gotta say. Stop lying, nigga. You got another BVL. That's why you ain't here, bitch.

SPEAKER_11 2:31:03

BBLZ!

SPEAKER_09 2:31:05

Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers. Happy Mother's Day. The name of this episode is Stay On That Side.

SPEAKER_05 2:31:13

Bitch.

SPEAKER_12 2:31:16

The name of this episode is Stay On That Side. And I'm turning Sam into Rick Ross. That's the no, I know never do that. I love you, Sam. Shout out to you. Happy, happy Mother's Day to Hills.

SPEAKER_09 2:31:29

Um I got a chopper in the cup, dude.

SPEAKER_12 2:31:32

Love y'all.

SPEAKER_11 2:31:33

See y'all next week. Hopefully, baby.

SPEAKER_12 2:31:35

Pasho we out episode 28. We'll holla.

unknown 2:31:40

I gotta like a bugger party.