Flutie vs Stegall

Doug Flutie tells the BRUTAL truth about NFL physicals... FVS 24

Ozoon Season 2 Episode 24

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Flutie vs Stegall returns! The boys are back to talk everything offseason, from the draft to the Maxx Crosby situation and more!

SPEAKER_04

The Jets just front office people, ownership, coaches, it something in the water. In the dirt, I don't know. It doesn't matter who they they sign or bring in. The line that I've used for 10 years is that's where quarterbacks go to die.

SPEAKER_00

There's nothing they can do. You signed Geno Smith. Nothing against Geno Smith, but I would have signed Kirk Cousins. I know that sounds crazy, Rash. I would have signed Kirk Cousins over Geno Smith of what we've seen out of him.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's almost April, which means naturally we are talking football because the offseason never ends with football. It is Flutie versus Steagle spring edition. We are powered by Ozun. It is great to have the band back together. We have we have not chatted since the Super Bowl, fellas.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, no, we we haven't since Seattle won the Super Bowl, like I said.

SPEAKER_03

How about JSN signing the extension this week and getting getting the bag? And somebody asked him, you know, what more now? And he said, Well, the only thing better than winning one Super Bowl is winning two Super Bowls. Yes.

SPEAKER_04

JSN knows what's up. That's the attitude you gotta have. So many guys, uh, once you win, they okay, they want to bankroll, they want to move on, they're like, hey, I'm I've arrived. You cannot feel like you've arrived. And Tom Brady said it, you know, it's like, what's your favorite one? The next one.

SPEAKER_01

The next one. Exactly. Yeah, he has the right attitude. He definitely has the right attitude. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So it's interesting, guys, because you know, the league year started at the beginning of the month, and usually free agency has some big moves here and there, and it just didn't happen this year. Obviously, the salary cap continued to fluctuate, it's a big part of this. But the Max Crosby thing is right. And I wanted to get your takes on this because everybody knew what Max Crosby, what his health situation, what his knee situation was going into it, including Baltimore. And then to agree to terms on the trade, bring Crosby in, and then Max goes on his podcast and says I show up, and the GM and coach aren't even really talking to me while I'm in their building. That's when I felt something was on.

SPEAKER_02

Can Doug, have you have you ever been in a situation quite like that? Have you heard of a situation quite like that before?

SPEAKER_04

Not exactly like that. You can, you know, physicals, they can flunk you any way they want on a physical, but they were still dealing in the background. Similar situation that I ever had. At the very end of my career, I tried to get to New England, and I am sitting in Tom Coughlin's office with the Giants, with John Huffnagel, my old offensive coordinator from Calgary Days. We're talking football. I'm gonna sign with New York, and I'm wheeling a deal on my phone in my hip pocket, talking to England. Like, guys, I gotta make this happen now. Or I mean New York, the Bob. So I kind of I kind of had that going on on my end. Like there, I had taken their physical, and I think after the fact, when I decided I said I said the cook's call, I said I need another day, I gotta go back and check with New England. And uh, I think they're out on it was they said they flunked me on my physical with with New England because they need a safe face.

SPEAKER_03

Is that why? They needed to say fancy.

SPEAKER_00

I haven't, but I'm this is my theory on what happened because they could have passed him on the physical, they knew what they were getting, they knew he had you know knee surgery, they knew he was on crutches, what a few weeks before that, so they couldn't pass him on the physical. But in theory, I think this is what happened. They saw Hendrickson, no one was signing him in that early tampering period. It was like, well, hold on, we can get him for a lot cheaper than what we're paying Crosby. So let's go out and flunk him and sign Trey Henderson. Another other thing, that another thing that happened was they lost two of their young guns. They lost the best center in the league. They lost Isaiah Likely, one of the up-and-coming tight ends. So they were like, we need our draft picks. We we can't give away two first-round draft picks when we just lost two of our young guns. Both of these guys 25 soon to be 26. So they were like, Well, hold, hold on. Is Max Crosby Crosby that much better than Trey Hendrickson? I don't think so. He has a motor that's a lot better, but as far as getting after the quarterback, Trey is right there with him. So they said, okay, let's fail him on his physical, get our two first-round draft picks back and get Trey in here. And that's exactly what they did. So they could have passed him on that physical. They knew he had knee problems. So my thinking was that that's the theory. That's that's what I'm thinking what happened.

SPEAKER_04

And that that is exactly what happened. They were buying time, all of a sudden they realized they had a discount, similar player, and they went for it, put them on hold, and said, you know, funk the physical. I had a physical, my biggest contract I ever had was my last contract in San Diego as a starter, big money. And just I went for the physical the day before we signed the contract in the morning. And after the physical, they said, you know, that knee's a little loose. They just kind of said it. I didn't sleep a wink all night long. I'm like, this is the biggest contract. I'm at the end of my career. I really need this contract. I want this contract. Couldn't sleep, got in the morning. We went down, signed the contract. Then after I signed them, go, what was the deal with my knee in the oh no, you're fine. They were fine. They didn't make they didn't make me feel comfortable the day before, but it was fine.

SPEAKER_00

And what about Max Crosby having to go back to a team who didn't want him? Oh, yeah. I mean, I know they they they they're the ones who negotiated this big contract, but they didn't want him. They were trying to get rid of him. Now you got to go back to that team and try to go out there and play some football. So it's an awkward situation, but it is what it is, I guess.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, on that, I I think everyone, you know, they at first when you walk back in the offices within the first few days, there's some uncomfortable feelings, but that's gone. You know, second week of training camp, they're they're doing what they're doing, and he's back in the swing. And uh that that's water under the bridge.

SPEAKER_03

Dude, do you the amazing part though is a year from now, they may be in the same situation.

SPEAKER_00

They may be Crosby again, trying to still try to trade him. Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_03

And by then, presumably he won't be coming off of surgery, he won't be on crutches. Here's what I wonder about all this. You come to terms on a trade, and now if you're an agent, if you're a player, can you trust Baltimore moving forward? Because it's not done till it's done. But if they're willing to rescind things, are you willing to go and come to terms with a team that's willing to kind of pull the chute on you, you know, at the last minute and kind of leave you blindsided. Is that is that a thing or is that not a thing?

SPEAKER_04

I think it becomes a thing. I think it's in the back of your mind, and maybe you want something in writing first, or you know, that's uh you know, that's because that's the way a lot of people negotiate anyway. They'll negotiate and once you agree to terms, then they start negotiating again. Um, so every offer should be written, everything should be written. So I don't know how you work around that, but there'll definitely be a fear.

SPEAKER_00

I would fear the the thing about it, any and every team can do this. So if you're gonna fear Baltimore, you better fear fear every other team. It's part of the game, it's a business. Teams are gonna do what's best for their team, regardless of who you are, regardless of what you've done in the past. If they feel that uh a different situation can help out their team more so than you, that's what they're gonna do. So it's a business, and as a raz said, it's not done until it's done. It's unfortunate that it happens that way, but that's the nature of the game, and it's all about what's best for the team, not the individual that they're somewhat could be hurting. They don't care about that pretty much.

SPEAKER_03

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SPEAKER_04

Just follow Milt Stiegel in the playoffs and you're good.

SPEAKER_03

And you're good. Mill also talked about the Raven Center, Tyler Linderbaum going to the Raiders. Got three years, 81 million bucks. We all know that Vegas is drafting a quarterback first overall. Everybody believes it's gonna be Doug's fellow Heisman winner, Mendoza. Dan Orlovsky's out there lobbying for Ty Simpson. We know a quarterback's going there. Doug, the importance of having an established center for a rookie quarterback is what?

SPEAKER_04

Huge. Absolutely huge. You can make all your mic calls, pass game wife. Now, a guy like um Mendoza, I mean, he he's he's a bright kid. He's gonna learn everything right away and be up on it. Pass game is second nature to quarterbacks. Run game, uh, I struggled with run game mic checks and things of that nature. And to have a guy up front that's solidifying the calls for your offensive line, number one, and for the quarterback number two, um, especially pass game orient, but run game for me was always a hassle. I had when I came to New England at the end of my career, Dan Copen was there at center. And I had never done all the mic checks with run game. Thank God Dan was there. You know, I was I was like a rookie again, and I had a guy that was Dan Copen up front call making calls for me, helping me out. And then no, no, Dougie, over here. I had Thurman Thomas when I first came back to the NFL, I had Thurman Thomas in the backfield standing next to me, and I'm making my mic falls on, you know, I'm seeing a blitz ready. 54 is ready. Dougie, Dougie, no, check, go 52, okay. Whatever you say, and we'll come over here. So, yes, that stuff matters in the connection of those two guys um having an experienced center. There's no doubt that's big.

SPEAKER_00

This is big. This is really big. Uh he entered uh the NFL in 2022. 2023, what happened? Lamar Jackson wins the MVP. He has to be the main reason for that. Uh, he's the highest paid interior offensive lineman in NFL history. And this is not just a great roster move, this is a great culture move. This team is trying to change the culture. They signed a bunch of guys on their defense, they signed one receiver, but this is the biggest signing for them. This man controls his offense, especially as Doug mentioned. When you got a rookie quarterback coming in, you got somebody who's seen everything, who can help you out, who can slow down the game somewhat for you. This is big for this Raider team. And don't be surprised. And remember who told you this, these Raiders may make the playoffs. I'm gonna call that. These raiders, they they made some, they went out and spent a bunch of money on defense. They got the best center in the game. They're gonna get a quarterback who's gonna come in right away, who can contribute. So don't, I'm not saying they're gonna make any noise, but don't be surprised if they make the playoffs. I'm calling. Doug, you know what the problem is? He's right all the time.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I don't question him. I just made two more bets. Um, yeah. It's tough. And I don't care how talented you are and how mentally sharp you are, it takes a little bit for to catch up with the speed of the game because mentally you're thinking so much as a rookie quarterback that center is a definitely comforting dealing for you. Um, I go back to looking at rookie years, so guys like Eden Bateman and struggle his uh horrible numbers, you know. Uh John Lway, everybody. So there's a learning curve. Now they spend more time in the offseason now than we ever did back in the day. Right. So they have time to catch up and be up to speed day one. So he has a chance, and this is giving him a chance.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'll give Flutie some credit because I think it was around like week nine, week 10. He came on the show and he said, Guys, I I've watched a couple of Bronco games now, and this Bo Knicks has got something. You know, he he's got something, and obviously the ankle and wasn't able to play in the AFC championship game. And here come the Broncos oh so close. You have a quarterback on a rookie deal, and what do they go do? They go trade for Steel and Waddle. Yes, I mean that that is that is a franchise-changing move, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04

Without some candy changing, don't get it. Go ahead, go ahead, Mill. Oh, go ahead, go ahead, Doug. Go ahead, Doug. You got it. I'm like, here's some candy candy. Here's we got some more bells and whistles for you. Go have some fun. Um, yeah, big move. And like you said, I I hadn't seen a lot of bow early in the year. And Denver kept winning, and they won the ugly, they won close games, but the way he plays down the wire, he was winning games, he was good, and then the more I watched him throw the ball, I was getting impressed. So it's um they should have, I mean, if he stays healthy, they're they're in the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, Doug, we don't know that. Doug, we don't know that.

SPEAKER_04

If he had stayed healthy, oh come on. The way they played the Denver, the Denver, New England, oh, of course, that was the snow game, though. So um, it was an ugly, ugly game, but you know, he was right there. He was ready to be there. And uh, you know, I don't know how beats milk CLC thoughts, but he's he's gonna have a shot to do something. Um, but this is exciting for him, for that team offensively. They're they're showing the trust they have in their quarterback and their offense, uh, and not that not that it's you know making the defensive moves.

SPEAKER_00

Jalen Waddle is one of those guys who gets separation. You know, most guys in the NFL, they're playmakers, you know, they can make plays because they're big and strong. Jalen Waddle, he gets that separation. Uh, he can get make those big plays down the field. So these Denver Broncos just added Jalen Waddle, and they have to be the favorites to get to the Super Bowl. They have to be because as Doug mentioned, I'm not gonna say they would have won, but they had a pretty good chance if he wouldn't have got hurt. But right now, they're gonna have to be.

SPEAKER_04

All they needed was one more score, one score. Oh, and they scored on off, they scored on D side. New England scored on D. I want to say that Denver's offense scored for New England. So in that game, that was the ugly, ugly, low-scoring game.

SPEAKER_03

So here on one side is this is Denver, and they're you know, an embarrassment of riches now on offense. And I guess now that I think about it, they're they're the favorites to win the AFC, aren't they? I think so. Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not betting a gas stone.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Yeah, now on the flip side, you're Malik Willis, and you have waited your entire career for a chance to be a starting quarterback, and you endured the garbage in Tennessee, and you were a good soldier in Green Bay, and you did what was asked of you, and anytime Jordan Love went down, you performed, and then Jordan Love gets gets the job back. Yep, we understand it. First round pick gets the bag. Your GM and head coach leave Green Bay, they go to Miami, they say, Malik, come over here. Three years, 67 mil, 45 guaranteed, come be your guy. The ink isn't even dry on the contract, and you ship the water.

SPEAKER_04

Man, that's that's the way it works, man. That's the way it works. You once once you've gotten you're this guy's on his way out, this guy's on done. I signed my rookie contract with New Jersey Generals USFL. Yes, they had Brian Psych, the best quarterback in the USFL. The day, the next day, gone, traded. It's like I was like, ah, I gotta play. Um, but also when you're looking at Miami now, 99 million dead money. That's it. There it is. 99 million. There it is. Leek's going into a situation where he's probably not gonna have weapons, he's gonna have to make something happen on his own. It could get ugly. Um, but it's an opportunity. I, you know, there, yep. It's an opportunity, and you as a quarterback, when I got my chance in Buffalo, and we were not not a lot of high expectations. I think we were 0-3 to start there, 1-3 or 0-3 to start the season, and I got a chance to play. You just want that chance, and that's all he's asking for. Give me a chance, give me the ball, let me try to. He's shown well, his numbers have been good, he's always played played well when he's gotten in. So he's he and then this is a band-aid year. This is a year where they're trying to just be competitive, put something on the field that could compete, and they're not, you know, they're not they're not in that playoff, they're not Denver.

SPEAKER_00

Doug, you just took all everything I was gonna say. Everything I was gonna say. Make it sound good. You know, everybody. There was one thing I was gonna say about this $99 million cap hit because of Tua. Tua would be sticking around. He'd be running around in a dolphin mascot outfit or something. He I would have used him in some way, I wouldn't have just let him go scot-free. And now he has a chance to be the starter with the Atlanta Falcons. He may be better than what they have there. He may be better than uh uh Michael Penix. Michael Penix. He may be better, and now you're paying him all this money, he's not there, so it it's unfortunate. But the Doug's it's it's a band-aid situation. But Malik Willis is getting his opportunity. If he can show well, he'll be their guy. If not, relatively speaking, they don't have that much invested in him. They'll go out and free agency or go draft somebody else. So it's a tough situation for them.

SPEAKER_04

What's that contract again? They don't have much invested. It's like 45 million guys. Oh my god. I know.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, over three years. It's relatively speaking, it's not that much.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, once you make your first season in CFL football. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, I was making about five dollars an hour, maybe. My my my first year with the Bengals, I was making, I made like uh my my base salary is like was 85,000. I got like 35,000 signing bonus. I thought I was bald until I saw one of boomers sizing checks. And back then, relatively it wasn't that much, but he was he was making like $300,000 a week. I'm like, I'm not making any.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I I played in the CFL with with CFL rookies would make $29,000. $29,000. And I mean, I remember my brother being uh free agent signing with San Diego in '88 and $87,000. Yeah, that that ballpark was talking about.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you talk about the checks. Your buddy Belichick, Doug, tells the story about how like the chief controller, like the finance people of the New York Giants were having a major issue because the books just weren't balanced and they were off by millions of dollars, and they had to dig into it to figure out what the heck was going on, and they finally show up to Belichick's office and say, We need to go talk to Lawrence. So they go into the locker room, and LT's got millions of dollars of uncashed checks. In his locker, in his locker, yes.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my goodness. Wow.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man. Um, I will say this about the dead cap money. Okay, and look, the the Dolphins roster is a grease fire, we know that. But let's remember there's a team that just had at the time record-setting dead cap money of 85 million bucks over two years, 53 million in 2024, 32 million in 2025, Russell Wilson's dead cap with Denver. Different situation. Yeah, go draft Bo Nicks, and some things can go in your favor. Um, we'll see. Uh we'll see how things transpire there.

SPEAKER_04

Anything can happen, teams can come together. You saw that with New England this year, so you don't count anyone out, but we it's our job to take a look and say, look at it, black and white. This is what should happen.

SPEAKER_03

Right. We are we mentioned it, we're less than a month before the draft. Um, Doug, when you were coming out of Boston College off the Heisman, all the accolades, all the notoriety, and NFL teams had all the opinions on you. What do you remember about your pre-draft process, if even such a thing existed?

SPEAKER_04

My situation was so damn unique and different that it doesn't count. Um, I was so lucky that the U.S. to all was around. There was a new league that was lobbying for players. They had signed Urshell Walper, they had signed Steve Young, they signed Jim Kelly. All right, all these big name guys were playing. Uh, Reggie White. Um, so I had a second option. So my draft status, Buffalo was talking about taking me high. They they were flirting anywhere from one first round to third. Round possible that became Bruce Smith. So they did the right thing. Um, Atlanta was talking about, you know, that that low second to fourth round. Other than that, I didn't have a lot of interest. Like I didn't know what was going on. I refused to go to the combines because I didn't want to get measured and weighed and throw in front of these people. Like you put a guy 6'4 next to me and we both throw an out route. The 6'4 guy looks better, right? You put it, it's like I got four years of film, watch the film, you decide, right? That was my attitude about it. So it was such a variable that I signed with the USFO and I signed for big money with Trump and all that stuff. Well, on draft day, I didn't even know it was draft day. We had a pre-pracing. We were in the middle of our season and we're going. And uh, I think at 36 hours later, I saw on TV that I got drafted in a late round by the Rams, like the 11th round. We had 15 rounds back then, though. So I just, you know, they had picked up my rights, hoping that the leg would fold up and then they'd have my rights. And eventually the next year, they did have my rights, but then they signed Jim Everett and traded my rights over to Chicago. I signed Varis. So my situation was totally ridiculous. I didn't even pay attention to the draft that day, and I was out for at the same.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, my situation was it was 12 rounds when I came out. And going into my senior, I was projected to be a fourth through eighth rounder, but our offense snuck it up. So some teams reached out to me, yeah, we'll draft you if you're still late, you know, 11th, 12th round. Of course, no one drafted me. And I became a I became a free agent, but it was the best situation for me because I had like nine teams reaching out to me, and myself and my agent, we got to pick what was the best situation for me. And obviously, we picked the best situation. My hometown Cincinnati Bengals, they had some hoes. Uh, one of the starting receivers, uh Eddie Brown, I don't know if you remember him, Doug. Eddie Brown who went to Miami. He got hurt, opened up a slot for me, and I ended up playing three years there. So back then, getting drafted late in those late rounds actually wasn't the best thing for you. You had a better opportunity when you were a free agent and you got to pick and choose where you wanted to go.

SPEAKER_04

So when you talk about that, very well said, that is very true. Very true.

SPEAKER_03

When you talk about situation, we hear that all the time, Milt. That can mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. From your standpoint, is it looking at the wide receiver depth chart, taking a look at what kind of the best, the most opportunities may be the best, hey, I think I can beat that guy out. What do you mean by the best situation overall as you kind of look at it per team?

SPEAKER_00

Well, the the first thing you have to look at and see when and how many receivers they drafted uh before you, you know, be in the draft. And the only receiver they drafted that year was a guy named Carl Pickens. They drafted, he was the first pick and a second round. And then I looked at the receivers they had on the roster, and I was like, okay, they only have like three solid receivers on the roster. Their other guys were like scrappy guys who were, you know, on the bubble trying to make the team. So I was like, they kept five receivers. I was like, I got a pretty good chance. I knew they had three receivers they're gonna keep, and Carl Pickens. So my thinking was, okay, if I'm not on the roster, I can at least make the practice roster. Well, open up some eyes in that first preseason game, and I end up making the roster, and they end up cutting some guys who had been there two or three years. So you got to look at all that. You have to look at what type of offense they run, uh, what type of quarterback they have. But the main thing you have to look at is what receivers they drafted and when did they draft. And they drafted two or three receivers in the first four rounds. That's not the team to go to because more than likely they're gonna keep those guys. They're young guys, they draft them early. So that's not the team to go to. Like I said, they only drafted one receiver, and that was the best spot for them.

SPEAKER_04

Some guys go ahead, Doug. And some teams only kept four receivers back then. Yep, yep. Some teams. Oh, they keep five. All right, I got a chance there. And some teams will release that fifth guy, and some weeks he's active and some weeks he's not, and then go with four guys.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Like, imagine telling somebody that today, where there's five receivers on the field regularly. Exactly. It's just amazing when you think about all of that. Um, and look we needed we needed fullbacks back then. We actually had a couple of fullbacks, right? Go ahead. I was just gonna say, I mean, some guys expect to go on the first day, they expect to go in the first round. They get they get all suited up for it. Geno Smith had to wait the second day, and who says you can't go back home?

SPEAKER_01

Oh my goodness, Geno Smith to the New York football jets. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Hey, you know, this is great for Doug because I week two.

SPEAKER_04

I get the keynote.

SPEAKER_03

I keep the key picking against the Jets. I don't know if he's he's a Bills guy, a Patriots guy. Actually, I've come to understand he's just an anti-Jets guy.

SPEAKER_04

I have to I agree with my Bills helmet. I if Bills helmet was out of frame. I get a lot of I get a lot of feedback from the Bills fans, but they don't see the helmet floating around, they see this Patriot stuff going on. But it's right here. Anyway, yes. Um, I'm a Bills guy first. I enjoyed watching the Patriots this year. The Jets just don't disappoint. They just continue to be consistent and do what they do, and it just is amazing. I I you know, and I God bless you, front office, people, ownership, coaches, it and something to do, and something in the water, in the dirt, I don't know. It doesn't matter who they they sign or bring in. I the the line that I've used for 10 years is that's where quarterbacks go to die. Yeah, I don't understand it. It's a tough place to play for sure, like from a fitness standpoint and everything else, and and maybe guys that end up there past their prime. I don't know, but uh I wish Gino the best, and I hope I hope he can do something there. But the odds are against him.

SPEAKER_00

There was a movie, and it was made some years ago with Eddie Murphy and uh Martin and Martin Lawrence, and the name of the movie was Life, and there was a character in the movie named Can't Get Right. That's what the Jets are. They just they can't get right. There's nothing they can do. You signed Geno Smith, nothing against Geno Smith, but I would have signed Kirk Cousins. I know that sounds crazy, Rash. I would have signed Kirk Cousins over Geno Smith of what we've seen out of him. Seriously. The the Jets, I don't know what they're thinking about. I don't know if they're gonna draft Ty Simpson with their second pick in the first round, but the Jets can't get right. That that that owner, that gym, they just can't get right. I don't know how they think this is gonna fix that team. I just don't see it. Uh hopefully I'm wrong. Like I said, I don't want to see Geno Smith fail, but I I don't see this situation work. I don't see it. I'll jump through 10 tables if this works.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, geez. I gotta tell you, there is no quarterback in the league better built for the New York Jets today than Kirk Cousins. I just I just tell you that.

SPEAKER_04

Where's Ryan Fitzpatrick? Bring him back. He was the only one that went there and competed his tail off and won a few bargames.

SPEAKER_03

Offseason Flutie versus Steagle. We're powered by Ozun. Real quick, guys, we gotta go. Let the Super Bowl's only 10 months away. I want a prediction because Steagle's never wrong. So, what's the matchup? What's the winner? Oh my gosh. Start with you.

SPEAKER_04

I'll go, I'll I'll go where we were talking about. I think Denver's gonna be really good. I I I gotta I would pick Denver on the AFC side, and I just picking out of a hat, and at the end of our broadcast, or I said uh San Francisco. Well now they pick up Mike Evans. So maybe maybe they'll use another difference maker for them offensively, and that usually opens up your tight ends and backs even more to have a tall, lengthy stud on the at X. So I'm gonna go with San Francisco, I'm gonna go with Denver.

SPEAKER_00

Well, as I said, after they won the Super Bowl, they're gonna be right back there again. So the Seattle Seahawks, they'll be back in it. And from the AFC, it's finally gonna happen. It's gonna happen for Josh Allen. This is the year he won't be crying at the end of the year. He'll be crying maybe because they'll lose the Super Bowl, but at least he won't be crying because he didn't make it to the Super Bowl. But Josh Allen, this is your year, baby. This is your year.

SPEAKER_03

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