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John Livia is joined by special guest, the talented, Adult Entertainer and Chef, Melony Melons as she discusses her career and much more.
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All right. Serious Outcast special featured guest today, Melanie Mellons. What's up, Melanie?
SPEAKER_03What's up? Hey, hi guys. Hi. Thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER_00Oh, no problem. How are you doing?
SPEAKER_03I'm doing great, actually. I just drove back from California, in case you couldn't tell.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you're in um you're in Vegas, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm in Vegas right now.
SPEAKER_00How long of a drive is that?
SPEAKER_03Um, I it's only a couple hours, really, maybe.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's good.
SPEAKER_03Three hours, yeah. Maybe four hours to LA on a bad day.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it uh was it business related or pleasure?
SPEAKER_03Um, I was actually in Los Angeles because I hosted the XRCO awards or co-hosted.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_03Co-hosted on Sunday and had a huge uh Airbnb up in the hills and had a big dinner party with a bunch of people on Friday night um and kind of celebrated the whole weekend out there in Southern California.
SPEAKER_00Very nice. That's right. I did see that on whose Instagram? Uh Brittany Andrews, because I have interviewed her and I follow her on Instagram. Also a great, great interview, by the way. Yeah, I did. That's right. I saw the two of you out there. That's right. That's right. Well, I'm glad you guys had a good time and uh enjoyed the uh Memorial Day weekend. It was pouring raining in New York and New Jersey all week. Was it really?
SPEAKER_03Oh, I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was a total, total waste. All the barbecues were canceled, forget it.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, so why do you celebrate Memorial Day though? Are you a veteran?
SPEAKER_00I am not a veteran, I'm just uh patriotic. My father was a veteran. Uh um before that, uh my grandparents were from Italy, so it only goes back down to my father, but my father was a veteran. Um, you know, just uh just you know, just patriotic, but uh basically that's really it.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, you just want the barbecues, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, I just want that again.
SPEAKER_03I just want the the ribs, that's really I just want to be able to wear shorts and I have like a dog in my hand.
SPEAKER_00It's pretty much all yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03No, I I get it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, even my dogs are getting cabin fever. I have one bulldog and one cone corso, and even they were like, because I you know it's pouring out, and god forbid god forbid they even go outside to pee when it's raining out.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they're like, Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, I'm not doing that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so um yeah, so Melanie, I would like to, you've never been on the show before, so I'd like to start from the beginning. So, where did you grow up?
SPEAKER_03I grew up in Southern California. I'm a Cali girl.
SPEAKER_00Where uh where exactly?
SPEAKER_03Where exactly? Yeah, I grew up in the foothill area. I grew up in um like Laverne, that area, if you know it. It's um near Bougie Glendora, the better school district.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So in high school, what kind of person were you? Were you basically uh very popular, or were you with the out the outcast crowd, or were you with a cheerleader?
SPEAKER_03You know, I have I have always kind of blended in with all the groups and been friends with all the groups. So I was friends with the cheerleaders, you know, I slept with half the football team, I was in drama, I hung out in the smoking section with those people. So I kind of got along with like everybody, kind of the way I do now.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, that's good. That's good. Yeah, so did you finish high school?
SPEAKER_03Um, I did finish high school, sort of, yeah. Yeah, I did, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Barely, by like the skinny teeth like the rest of us.
SPEAKER_03No, no, actually I had straight A's, but um Really? Yeah, yeah. I was it was a whole family thing, and I wasn't at home. Like it was a whole like legal thing. So it was a whole thing where I couldn't actually get my diploma because I wasn't living with my guardian. So I had to go and like take an extra GED after just to get the diploma. It was it was the 80s.
SPEAKER_00Well, you know, what do you Yeah, it sounds like it was a little sketchy. Yeah, it happened.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, a little bit, yeah. But it was great because I took the GED, it takes like five hours, five and a half hours, something. I think I finished it in like two hours and 15 minutes. I was like, Yeah, please have my diploma now. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00It's a it's amazing. It's uh you know, five years, two and a half hours to get your GED before years for a high school diploma, right? It's unbelievable.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I know, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So you finish high school and then what do you do? Where do you go from there?
SPEAKER_03Um, I finished high school. What did I do? I mean, I tried my hand at like acting, um, and uh what else? I tried selling cars for a while. That sucks. Um, then I uh what happened? Oh, I was in uh uh Phoenix and uh was completely broke and had like a $1,300 electric bill because it was summertime and thought I need to get a job and went and applied as a hostess at this nude bar, thinking I'm just gonna be the hostess and see people because that's yeah, that's that sounds that sounds right. That'll be fine. And then I showed up the first day and they're like, Yeah, we don't actually need a hostess. That was a total lie. But we like you, so why don't you get on stage? And I was like, What? Yeah, and that's where it kind of like all started. I made like 400 bucks my first day, not knowing what I was doing, and thought, I I can I can turn this into something.
SPEAKER_00Right, yeah, yeah. Well that that that's that's normally the the um most of the girls either that I interview, they either say they got started on um doing that in a club or uh OnlyFans.
SPEAKER_03Those are that was a long, a long time ago. I had a really long career as a as a as a uh new dancer like in Southern California. Okay, so and then I became a Michelin star chef. Um what is that? A Michelin star chef? What is that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Michelin is a tire. I have no idea.
SPEAKER_03You live in New York, right? Yeah, you know Michelin restaurants?
SPEAKER_00Well, I know Michelin to tire. I don't know the restaurant.
SPEAKER_03Are you are you teasing me, right?
SPEAKER_00No, I swear to god, I don't, honestly. I swear to God, really? Oh yeah. Um I'm not a fan, I'm not a fancy guy. I you know it's okay.
SPEAKER_03Um, you've heard of like Gordon Ramsay, Emerald Lagossi. Yeah, okay. So they're like Michelin star chefs, they have Michelin star restaurants, right?
SPEAKER_00Oh, so what Michelin?
SPEAKER_03So there's a five-star system, and then there's a Michelin system, which is above that. Okay, which is another three-star system. It's super hard to get a one-star. It's even harder to get a two-star, and it's a world beyond that to get three stars. Um, yeah. So after I was a stripper for like 17, 18 years, um, I was having these little dinner parties at my house, and someone said, You should be a chef. And I went to the culinary school and I'm like, Oh, you'll make 250 a year. And I was like, Okay. Um, and so yeah, and then I became a Michelin star trained chef in Los Angeles.
SPEAKER_00So that must be you must be very talented when it comes to cooking, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_03Um, I don't suck. Yeah, I'm not I'm actually I'm I'm pretty good. I can hold my own. I've um I've been at places like um sorry, I'm just I'm drawing a blanket. I've worked at Patina and Melise. Um Melise is in Santa Monica, it's a two-star Michelin, and then Patina is in Los Angeles at the Walt Disney concert hall, and then that they patina handled the Emmy Awards.
SPEAKER_00So do you have like a specialty? Like, do you is there something that you like to cook specific?
SPEAKER_03Expensive?
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, something specific. Yeah, like expensive. Anything expensive?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, I like molecular gastronomy. It takes a super long time to usually make like all the components of a single dish. Um, but when it's all together, it really blows people's minds. Um, I like to make anything that people are gonna really enjoy and relate to and you know, make them have them leave a memory with them over the food, that kind of food.
SPEAKER_00Do you still do that? Do you still have dinner parties and cook and have people over?
SPEAKER_03I just had a dinner party on Friday.
SPEAKER_00Very nice, very nice.
SPEAKER_03I did, and uh it was lovely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It had been a while since I had, you know, cooked like that. So there was a few moments where I was like, um, uh, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00And then it kind of all you go back to like the old notepads that you took notes in. You're like, shit, what no, no, no.
SPEAKER_03Nowadays you just look at your phone and you're like, wait, that's like uh four eggs and a half a cup, half a cup. Okay. You just have to make sure sometimes I'm baking or something, but the rest is kind of that's really interesting.
SPEAKER_00You don't really hear that from people in in uh the adult entertainment industry, like, oh, I'm a fucking chef, like, and a really good one, too, by the way.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I've cooked for I've cooked for both former and sitting presidents, I've cooked for all the celebrities in Leslie most of the award shows. Yeah, I've cooked for the Oscars, the Emmys. I'm one of the last three chefs to touch the proteins, which is like you know, the biggest deal.
SPEAKER_00Now tell tell me about that. Tell me about the uh what presidents did you cook for? And how did you get into that situation where you were cooking for them?
SPEAKER_03Um, I had a chef at school that um used to work at the West Wing, and so I was able to kind of cook for Obama, but um I cooked for Michelle as well, and and Obama in the World Special Olympics in Los Angeles in 2015. Wow, that's I had a fight of gourmet food truck, home run sliders. Hey, and um there was a contest to see like which food truck was gonna be good enough to serve them. Okay. I won.
SPEAKER_00That's amazing. That's amazing. What did so when you actually got to cook for them, what did you what did you cook?
SPEAKER_03Uh I made just I was on a food truck, so it's not like I'm doing like a restaurant in there. It's way too hot. But I did make roasted salmon with Romesco potatoes, a mint pee puree. I think I probably had like some fried herb or something on on top, yeah, and a little sticky toffee pudding because the steam table lends itself well to that.
SPEAKER_00Did the winner of the of the best food truck get to um uh for them? That is amazing. The same day, or was it a no, no?
SPEAKER_03It was it was it was all planned out like weeks and weeks ahead. It was a huge, it was the World Special Olympics. There was like you know, 100 trucks vying for spots to serve people and to sell sell their food.
SPEAKER_00That's fantastic. That's amazing. Now I have to ask you, how did you springboard from being such a successful chef to doing adult entertainment?
SPEAKER_03Well, like the pandemic.
SPEAKER_00Oh, of course.
SPEAKER_03Remember now, it was this thing that happened a couple years ago. It's kind of the event. I don't know. Maybe you heard about it.
SPEAKER_00Of course, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so the pandemic happened, and um I was in Park City at a um exclusive restaurant out there, and the pandemic happened, everything shut down. So I did what every chef was doing. I started making Instagram videos like, and today we're making bread, and today we're making this because we didn't have anything else to do, right?
SPEAKER_00Right, right.
SPEAKER_03Um, and I always wore like little low-cut tops and stuff like this.
SPEAKER_00And that helps, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, um, yeah. And somebody made a comment said, You should start in OnlyFans and call it OnlyPans. And so I thought, hmm, okay. And so I kind of ran with it. And uh my first name was so embarrassing. Don't you promise not to laugh, I tell you.
SPEAKER_00I if I haven't laughed at Melanie Melons.
SPEAKER_03Um, so my very first name was OnlyPans 99 because one through 98 was fucking taken. But that somehow didn't dawn on me that you know, maybe it wasn't a good name. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's okay. I don't um uh you know, like people that uh subscribe to OnlyFans don't give a shit what your name is.
SPEAKER_03No, I mean they really don't. It's not like it's a searchable platform anyway, so what do you care?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's yeah, they don't care. Like it's like basically you have big boobs and that's what I'm interested in, then big boobs it is. That's really it. You know, that's it's that that's where where it goes. Um what's funny is that I've noticed that when it comes to my interviews with uh the girls in the adult entertainment, the actual dialogue doesn't really matter because I found out that most guys just come on and click mute anyway.
SPEAKER_03What? Okay, should I sit up higher then?
SPEAKER_00Am I yeah, yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03Let me let me should just like zoom in.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Yeah, that's it. It's exactly right.
SPEAKER_03Wait, wait, let me make sure I'm straight in the yeah, so yeah, that's that better. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00So do you remember when we were when we were young, we had Telemundo, the Spanish channel?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's with all the Spanish um chicks, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So, you know, uh we we used to call it poor man's porn, right?
SPEAKER_03Oh, did you? Yeah, so or I called it telemundo, which is yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So it's um so we would either the high school kids or the uh the high school kids or the father or the husbands that got yelled at for watching actual porn in their own house would just go on telemundo, shut the um uh, you know, you know, mute the volume and then just have away with himself, right? Okay, I've come to realize that that's actually what happens with YouTube uh when I interview somebody like yourself. Um because yeah, it's the same concept now. They just hit click.
SPEAKER_03So you would not be like, interview myself. Is that what you're saying?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. 100%.
SPEAKER_03I could just have the podcast like this the whole time. Yeah, right. Well, um so today, yeah, nobody would care what my Facebook like.
SPEAKER_00Nobody would give a shit. Nobody would care. Um, if you know, I think the uh the adult entertainers, Ava Adams. I don't know if she's still but she has a whole thing where she does clothing and she just gets dressed up in different clothing, bathing suits, and and she has like I don't know, 300,000 subscribers. Do you think any of them give a shit what she well, you know, it's just because she's got the body and she's trying on different clothes, and that's that's really it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, today she looks like a librarian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, today she's looking a little sassy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I can only imagine. That's it, that's all it is. It's so funny. It's so it really is so funny.
SPEAKER_02I love that.
SPEAKER_00So um you saw your OnlyFans, which a lot a lot of girls did in during COVID. Uh, and that was like the boom of OnlyFans, right?
SPEAKER_03It's kind of yeah, I was a little late. I didn't start until 22.
SPEAKER_00So okay, it was still a very high though.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00OnlyFans kind of crashed, I would say, in the last year and a half. I think there's like over a million girls on OnlyFans now.
SPEAKER_03Is there now? Wow, yeah, it's before there was like 20,000. Yeah, it's completely 200,000 creators, right? Yeah, so I had done the math and I figured I only had to beat out 20,000 people to be in the top one percent.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, just around. You know, it's um it's completely flooded now. But during well, the time that you were in was was basically its peak. So, how long were you on OnlyFans and how did you actually go from OnlyFans to doing adult entertainment?
SPEAKER_03Well, I started my OnlyFans when I was in uh Salt Lake City, Utah. And um, you know, no shade on any actual creators in Salt Lake City, but the people that I was talking to were not them, they were very bad. Um, like really bad. Like you think, oh my god, they have all these kids. You think they know what they're doing? No, no, they don't. No, they're terrible.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So bad. And so I found myself always driving to Vegas to try to find someone to make content with. Um, and I thought, you know, I should just move out here, it'd be so much easier. Um, and went to an avian party in like my first couple weeks in town and met a porn star and we started dating. And um, he got me my first, he he pushed me to call reach out to score and get my first like pro scene. And that's okay, that's kind of how that happened. Then I got an agent and they thought, blonde, big boobs, let's run around town.
SPEAKER_00Oh, absolutely. Because I mean, you know, what's great, I mean, it's in my in my opinion, what's great about social media now is when when when I was young, it was very difficult to get into the different fetishes. Like you would go, like when I was a kid, I grew up in Brooklyn. So when I was a kid, we used to go to this place called Triple X Warehouse. Okay, and they wouldn't let you in you if you were unless you were if you were under 18. So we used to have to sneak in or whatever.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00And then most of the time they didn't give a shit as long as you bought something. Um, and that's really how you got your adult entertainment, right? Now it's um, and then back then it was like if the girls were over 25, their careers were over, right? It was ridiculous. Now it's the social media and you know, um it's uh the internet has basically given birth to you could continue this and you could actually embrace it for and make a career out of it for years to come because there's so many different angles to take and so many different genres to go into within the adult entertainment that it's like literally uh I don't know about the actual girls or guys, but the producers, the productions have made it's like boom since the internet has has cam has come, especially in the last I would say the last six, seven years, it exploded.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You know, all they all have subscription models, and so that's you know, that's the model that you want to try and go for because it just builds upon itself.
SPEAKER_00Right, right, right, right. Now, do you still do the OnlyFans?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I still have an OnlyFans. I have a free page and I have a VIP page.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03Um I don't really have a lot of time to spend on them. And um, can I be real with you? Of course. Like, or should I not burst anyone's bubble?
SPEAKER_00Go right ahead. Okay. No, you could be real.
SPEAKER_03Okay, look, my fans on OnlyFans, my VIP page is $9.99. Okay, that kind of gets you in the door and gets you deals on anything else that I'm selling. I usually give you like a 20-25% discount on any any content that I sell, and and my VIP page gets it first, along with usually daily pictures, and they have access to message me. However, there are so many fans on only people on only guys on only fans right now that think that that $9.99 entitles them to my time and and free texting for like the entire month, or you know, just hi. Well, I don't really know, you know, what to do. Hi. Yeah, you know, they they the fans on OnlyFans, I'm being really honest, and and and I speak for me, so I don't really speak for everyone in the industry.
SPEAKER_00I understand.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but um, they're really needy, they're they're really um uh they want to be affordable, you know, um economical, they want to, you know, and they don't they want they want you to do this crazy stuff and they're like a hundred bucks. Yeah, what no? I have to my makeup that I'm gonna put on is gonna cost more than that.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, well, you know, you can't you know you know, you you can't unfortunately when you do start an OnlyFans or any kind of fetish site or anything like that, that you're gonna attract the creeps, you're gonna attract the cheap people, you're gonna attract the creeps, you're gonna attract all they're on the free page, all the yeah, all these different people, and unfortunately, you can't, you know, you can't really dissect it or or control it. It's unfortunate, but it's it's true. I've interviewed girls that don't do any of that. Like I've interviewed because I I I have a second channel, I don't know if you know.
SPEAKER_03Well, tell me what they do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I have a second channel. I don't know if you know this, but I it my second channel is all about bodybuilding.
SPEAKER_03Really? I love that.
SPEAKER_00Nothing but bodybuilding, it's all bodybuilding, very niche. And so I've had female bodybuilders come on that don't do adult entertainment, and they still get hit up on Instagram and Facebook on TikTok to do these things, and they have to block and turn them down and say no. And they've they've gotten offers uh to do crazy things. All right, I'll tell you this one story, and I won't mention her name because she wouldn't like it if I mentioned. She was a professional bodybuilder, she's retired now. I interviewed her on my channel. Great human being. Never did she was married, never did a stitch of adult entertainment, but one person um wanted her to actually get a kitten. Okay, I wanna I'm gonna clean it up for for YouTube. Get a kitten, okay? Be naked with high heels on, and step on that. Yeah. And then she and she was and they offered her five thousand and and she blocked them, deleted them, and the whole the whole thing. And she never she never did anything like that. So now, so now you know, you're you know, I can only imagine what somebody like you go goes through. You know what I mean? I could only imagine.
SPEAKER_03I mean I don't know. I don't a lot of it you can tell in the first like couple words what it's gonna be. And if it's super long, I'm not reading all that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right, right.
SPEAKER_03I'm sorry, I'm not gonna let you monopolize my time or manipulate me into reading something and stealing my time from my life to read something that you know is your rambling. I'm so sorry. I sound like I'm sure I sound like a real you know jerk, but I I really don't know what that much. There's so many other platforms out there though. Like my jam, can I say what my GM is?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, as long as it's you clean it up for YouTube, go right ahead.
SPEAKER_03It's it's it's sex Sex Panther, Text Panther, okay.
SPEAKER_00It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_03Minks and Y NX, yeah. Okay, because that's where fans can get a real one-on-one experience with people like me, and you know that it's us, call us. Yeah, you can call us and we answer the phone right then.
SPEAKER_00I can only imagine how much these people spend.
SPEAKER_03I mean, God bless them though. You know, some guys, some people some guys want to talk, some guys want fetish, some guys, you know, just want to you know, see see your butthole.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, right. Yeah, no, I I get it, I get it. I'm gonna say this though. I bet you have, and correct me if I'm wrong, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I bet you have a better experience with people in person.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because I've I've noted I had this conversation with Ava.
SPEAKER_03I wasn't sure if I could even mention that. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00No, I have I I had this conversation with Ava Devine. Okay, yeah. Every year that you have the uh the the exotica that comes to New York, it's in Jersey because you can get a bigger space for the cheaper and you you know it, but it's in Jersey.
SPEAKER_03They allow they allow adults, they allow adults, yeah, right. And they have but you it's a huge it's huge, it's huge, it's the biggest one, the largest one square footage, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I I go there, I didn't go last year, but I go there, I've gone there you know, three or four years in a row to get content to get, you know, to talk to people like yourself to call it and I've noticed that the interaction between the people and the entertainers, the the the models, much more civil, much more calm. It's it's it's much and and and here's the thing, I've I broke it down to uh I gotta I gotta remember this. I broke it down to there are there are specific types of fans. So the first type of fan is um the guy and the girl that comes from uh the guy and the girl that comes from they're married and they just want to spruce up their their sex life. Yeah, yeah. You know, they they might watch they might watch you know corn together or they they they want to buy you know toys or whatever. That's one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00The other the other group is uh is um you know, you might have the radicals for to for a better term, you know. Um I wouldn't call them trans. It's really me in a wig kind of deal with screwed up makeup. But they are feel free to go and be themselves and so on and so forth, right? And then you have uh the two other types, uh the which is my favorite type. The guy, the young guys that just like came from the bar and they're like, let's go to the Exonica, and they're all drunk.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they have no idea.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and they grab a girl like you and they take a picture and they hold her up in the air and stuff like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, and and and um, and I've noticed the younger models enjoy that more. Where the girls that are like uh that are there for serious and business, they're they're not really into that too much. And uh yeah, I wonder why. It's like don't don't don't pick me up over your head. We're fine. You can just take a picture.
SPEAKER_03I'm like, do you have any liability if I fall?
SPEAKER_00And the other one is the super fan, the guy that knows everything about you, and he's there to meet you because he is a super fan.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they bring you pictures from your very first worst day on the step. And then look at the biggest one too, it'll be that one where you yeah, please sign us. You're so beautiful, and you're like, bless you, you know.
SPEAKER_00I've no, I've noticed the interaction is very courteous, it's very calm, it's very polite. And even myself, like I'll stand in line. Like, I met that's how I met Brendy Britney Andrews. That's how I met Gigi Dior.
SPEAKER_02Gigi's great, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I also met Ginger Lynn. Okay, and I did interviews all of them, and I would just stand in line and they were being very polite. And I I would have to be patient because they're giving a lot of time to these people that pay money to meet them. So, and then I, you know, and I speak to them, they've been speaking to them even myself. I tell them I have a podcast, I went into very polite, very kind. And so the interaction seems there was one girl that I'm gonna, I'm not gonna mention her name, but let's just I'll just I'll just say this. It has to do with a with a current president. She didn't have much, she didn't have such a nice attitude, I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00It might have been a bad day, might have been just a bad day.
SPEAKER_03Might have been raining that day.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it might have been just a bad day, but she didn't really have much of a nice attitude when I when I talked to her, but it is what it is.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I'm sorry about that.
SPEAKER_00But you know, one of the things. Right, right, right, right. You've been there for you've been there for four hours. Yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER_03You know, no, or just like the last, you know, two dozen people that came up want to ask you about somebody else. I don't know where anybody is. I could barely find my booth, or they want to ask something dumb, like uh, like I don't know, just usually things, I don't know, just dumb things. Like, yeah, do you make your own costumes? Do I know?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, that's what Amazon is for, asshole.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, I don't.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's unbelievable. It really is. So I want to talk about my favorite feature. Obviously, they call you yeah, yeah, your beautiful white teeth. Um, which they are really they are really they are really nicely nice teeth, actually. I'm not yeah, absolutely. Um, so they call you you took the name Melanie Melons for a particular reason, obviously. Um, so you obviously do a do a lot of uh large breast content.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And how uh how uh big are they uh obviously in bra size?
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SPEAKER_03Yen as a Nancy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's I that's a round of applause.
SPEAKER_03Thank you, thank you, thank you.
SPEAKER_00Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. Uh how many surgeries have you had to get to that? What were you?
SPEAKER_03Um they're mostly natural. I know a lot of people are like, well, I thought they're all natural. Well, they are at this point. I mean, I got them done like 23 years ago. I think they've probably melted back into my body by now. I was already like a um uh a triple D, maybe a small E when I got pregnant with my oldest daughter. And then afterwards, you know, I worked at strip clubs and like they're they're just not the same, they're just they're not like your 18-year-old titties.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I got it, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and so um I just wanted them kind of filled back up, and you know, they still have a supernatural hang, they feel real. I've made I've gotten so many lap dances from young boys in strip clubs where they're like, those aren't real. I'm like, grab them. If you can fill a bag, then I'll give you 20 bucks. And they can never get to fill the bag. And I'm like, then you owe me a dance. Let's get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's cute. Um, yeah, I mean, I've watched your content. I'm not gonna be, I know who you are, and and that is and what's funny is that every time I do go to like the exotica, um, I don't know any of the girls that don't have big boobs because that's the only type type I watch.
SPEAKER_03Right, yeah, yeah. Like you're on a you're on a you're on an ad site and you're all big boobs, super big boobs, uber boobs, right? You're not there's nothing else being filtered in there for you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, absolutely. And it's funny because there's a long line for somebody, and I go, I don't know who that person is, and I'm looking at the sign, and then I try to Google, is she important? Is she interested? Then, you know, because she if she is, then I'll approach her to come on the show. Unfortunately, you know, I gotta do my research, but I always and here's another thing if you have a great ass, it does my podcast no good because you can't see them from this angle, right?
SPEAKER_03Unless they're gonna, you know, turn the other way. Yeah, YouTube might have a problem with that. Yeah, we'd be talking out their ass then.
SPEAKER_00So I did interview Miss Danny, though. That was okay.
SPEAKER_03I love Miss Danny, yeah. That's she's so hot.
SPEAKER_00That was what, three uh, three years ago? Something like that. I think it was three years ago. Yeah, I did interview Miss Danny. I've gotten great interviews and great interactions from women in the in the industry. I really have. Yeah, I mean, I had a great interview with Sarah J. I mean, it was just it was really, really, very not not what you would think, put it that way. You know, you would think that they are full of themselves, you would think that they are uh crazy, they would think they are, you know, um just unreliable.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00But there, but honestly, in my experience, when I interview you girls, it's it's been really smooth sailing, really.
SPEAKER_03We're all super down to earth, we're super normal, we have regular families and regular lives and do regular things, you know, not for me anymore, but you know, other other stars that they go to carpool, they do, you know, all the um all the normal, you know, mom things or or you know, girl things or going to baseball games, or it's just normal, we're just regular people, right? We're just good at certain things that yeah, like everyone likes to watch.
SPEAKER_00That's all right, right, right, right, right. So now you don't have to mention names. I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions about the industry. I don't want you to mention names, I don't want you to get in trouble. But have have you had to work with somebody for a particular reason, and then after you worked with that person, I'm talking about a guy, um you were like, No, I am never working with this person again. Um for whatever for whatever reason.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, never on a never on a pro set, though. Never on a pro set, only for content for collabs. That's the only time.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, that makes it easier because we don't have to worry about naming names then.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, everyone, every male performer on a on a pro set has always been amazing, super professional, very kind, very considerate, um, very professional, like yeah, you know, very good at their jobs.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's good. Okay. So when now when you were making your own content, uh not on a pro set, what actually happened where you were like, I am never working with this person again?
SPEAKER_03Um, let's see. The first time was the first time was just like some guy that had gotten in the industry because his girlfriend or wife was in the industry and they were swingers, right? And so he thought he could do what like, I don't know, the hot wife husbands do or something. I don't know, but he couldn't. He couldn't. And he showed up like he showed he showed up like, hey, can you help me out? Can can you and he acted like it was my job to get him and I'm like, yeah, I'm not your wife, I'm not your girlfriend, I'm not even getting paid, right? So you do your job and I'll do mine. I and I said, I just like to save my best energy for unfilm, you know.
SPEAKER_00You know, and what's what's funny is that you would think that there's no reason not to be ready today between Viagra, Cialis, the Trimix injection. I mean, I mean, there's there's there's all I mean, I mean, literally, and I'm not making this uh this up, literally, in retirement homes, yeah are they're having sex because yeah of modern technology.
SPEAKER_03High blood pressure, heart problems, they're still making it work.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know I you know, there's literally like if I had to do something like that, you bet your ass I would fucking have a chemical compound that would make it work, right? I would not want to embarrass myself, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, but those are I mean, that's a different type of creator though, too.
SPEAKER_00So it was basically he was just unprofessional. Was there any any time where like maybe the guy his hygiene was bad?
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's somebody, and we all know who it is.
SPEAKER_00Like, we all I won't say a word. You don't have to mention the person's name, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But like there was one point where I'm like uh the first time I collaborated with him, I was still really new, and so I just shut my mouth, like you know, oh thank you so much for showing up, you know. But then the second time I was like, Yeah, no, you need to go not smell because I don't. How did I not just yeah, I don't understand how you show up in your armpits and your balls smell, and you think someone that's not in love with you is gonna be like, Yeah, no, I no, I don't know, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I I make it a I just it blows me away when men have terrible hygiene. I may well, first of all, I I get because I work in the New York City sewer system full time.
SPEAKER_03Thank you for your service.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we get paid time to shower at the plant, yeah, and and leave. And I must take three showers a day because by the time I I take a shower there, then um I usually take a shower when I get home from the gym. So at least two to three showers a day. And then put cologne and and uh and yeah and and uh deodorant. And I mean, I don't I just don't I don't I don't get it. I mean I didn't even get my nose and my ears whacked, so I don't have hair, you know.
SPEAKER_03And you can buy you can buy a kit from Amazon that shows up at your house, you know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, right. Like I get it done. It just it just it just baffles me.
SPEAKER_03I mean, yeah, yeah. I had I had another scene with a guy that I think is honestly um autistic, maybe, maybe more so than the rest of us. I don't know, but it was it was so bad that it took three hours to get 10 minutes worth of content, and I think I still need therapy from that, honestly. It was so promatizing.
SPEAKER_00And now the flip side. Yeah, have you ever seen or worked with uh or or saw a girl that was you know, maybe showed up high or sh what or was smelt horrible, or maybe it was that time of the month and she didn't clean herself up or nothing like that, really? No, never, never all right, all right.
SPEAKER_03Never and I make sure I'm not like that. I mean, I hope nobody else. Yeah, no, I mean we do all the girly things right before, so you would think so, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, like, I'm not I'm not shooting with you know homeless girls in the industry, so they tend to show up. Girls tend to show up perfect. It's sometimes the guys you have to worry about because I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So this that one person that everybody knows who he is, did he clean up his act not for uh no pun intended?
SPEAKER_03Um, I don't I don't really know. I haven't really seen him in a while.
SPEAKER_00So you would think so if everybody knows that sooner or later he would get the hint.
SPEAKER_03Like, dude, like they're at work there's a lot of really polite girls in this industry.
SPEAKER_00Like at work, there's this one guy that never showers, uh-huh, and he smells and his locker smells, and I got elected to tell him.
SPEAKER_03Did you really? How was that? Did you like that? Was that fun?
SPEAKER_00I just told him. I was like, dude, can I talk to you outside? He's like, Yeah, what's up, John? Outside, I was like, Yeah, well, because we had to go into the parking lot. I was like, bro, everybody's complaining. You gotta clean, and we and we're able to do our laundry there too. Our work clothes, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because there's no excuse then.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, I was like, dude, everybody's complaining. You don't want to be the stinky guy, just at least clean your clothes so your locker doesn't smell, you know. You know, and um, you know, it is what it is.
SPEAKER_03I mean, that's that's gonna be really bad if you like you work in the sewer and the guy smelled worse than that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's bad. It's it's a problem. It's bad, yeah. So I am kind of pride myself on smelling nice and whatever, it doesn't matter. Um where is and and clean uh please clean it up for YouTube. Where is the line for you? Where is the line where you go, I won't go past that? I don't care how much you pay me, I don't care how much you pay me, I'm not doing that.
SPEAKER_03Um SKAT or impact play.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay, all right. I think we could figure that out.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, I'm not I don't need to go get you know beat up and thrown around. No, I have you seen these? Please be delicate, thank you.
SPEAKER_00So and what which what blows me away is there are men that are really interested in that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there are, but they're not my fans because I don't I don't do that, so they're never gonna get that from me. Yeah, my fans are um mommy, stepmommy, auntie, you know, the the neighbor, the yeah, yeah, the receptionist, the the doc, you know, all those normal fantasy shit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, the blonde with the big tits fantasy shit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like that's standard, I think, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. It's it's I really thought that I was disgusting until I started interviewing uh adult entertainers, and then I go, and then and then they tell me what other people are into, and I go, Jesus Christ, man. Yeah, if you if you want to have a good laugh, go watch the last uh Ava Devine interview I did.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, I bet it's hilarious.
SPEAKER_00And and and um there was a part where I dry heaved.
SPEAKER_03What?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, because she was telling me, I don't want to do it with with you because I learned my lesson. I get demonetized if I get too deep and disgusting, right?
SPEAKER_03Okay, all right. We don't want that, we want you to monetize.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so what happened was, but it was a great interview. I had asked her what the most disgusting thing was that she's done, and she goes, Oh, so I said, I'll I'll say it. You say yes or no. So I really went what I thought was deep. Like, I really went what I thought was over the top, and she's like, Oh yeah, and I was like, I swear to God, it was a legitimate drive, too. Oh and then she called what did she call me, a pussy or something like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, oh yeah, she probably went, Yeah, she's like a pussy.
SPEAKER_00But uh, yeah, there are certain fetishes that these guys, and and what's funny is that I've noticed a lot of them, a lot of these guys are from the Middle East with a lot of big money, yeah. You know, and they pay crazy for these girls to do crazy things, and they they I mean they can hit me up, we could talk about it. Yeah, listen, for the amount of money I might do with Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_03I mean, you probably would. They offer you enough, you're gonna you're gonna demi more that situation 100%.
SPEAKER_00Okay, yeah, it's uh it's unbelievable. But yeah, for and it's and what I had I had interviewed this one girl, and I she had told me that she had no problem bull busting, right? Yeah, I said, Well, what's the line for you? And she said the line was farting. She didn't want she couldn't fart on somebody or somebody yeah, and I was like, I think I have no problem with that. I was like, I was like, so kicking a guy in the balls for money is fine, but you farting and she what was funny, it wasn't even like farting on the guy, it was somebody sent her a football and said, please fart on this and send it back to me. And she wouldn't do it.
SPEAKER_03How would they know? I don't how would they know? I would just be like, Okay, send it back.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay, yeah, unless there's like unless they show a video of her fart. I mean, but still, you just and I was like, and I was like, You dub in the sound, like I told exactly, that's what I said. It's like you can't dub in the isn't that like a little font machine?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, every every edit app has got sounds, yeah, all doorbell, piano, bar.
SPEAKER_00It's just funny. Some of everybody has you know different lines, and you know, it's just it's just it's just hilarious. So now what is Melanie Melons doing for 2026? What kind of special um work or content are you doing for 2026?
SPEAKER_03I know we're deep in 2026 already, but yeah, I I have stuff that I still haven't released that you know was I actually have a big project that I uh made Poison Ivy's Revenge with like all cosplay, all body paint, original outfits from the 1997 Batman and Robin, like the whole thing.
SPEAKER_01Really, that's very cool.
SPEAKER_03So that's that's coming out just I don't know when somebody come in and help me with it. Yeah, I need the press release, it's all a timing thing. Um and uh I have that. And I'm trying to think, what else? Um I am I just pres I was just a host, a co-host for the XRCO awards. That's great. Um what else? I am going to I'm going to the Night Moves um award show in October in Tampa. So I'll be down there, hosting down there. And um I just finished my first book, if anybody cares about that.
SPEAKER_00Really? What book what's the name of the book?
SPEAKER_03Uh no one is coming.
SPEAKER_00Is uh is it out yet?
SPEAKER_03No, no, it's it's still in manuscript form. Um my uh Erica Icon, my PR, wants me to try and get a ghostwriter to go on it with me to help boost the popularity of it. And she said I'll probably have to make it a little bit longer.
SPEAKER_00So when it comes on, you have to come back so we could promote the book.
SPEAKER_03I would love that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I have uh just a couple more questions and I'm gonna let you go. I'm not gonna take up a lot of time. Uh and again, a little a lot of them are industry questions that I think people are just interested in, really.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00Years ago, when it when I interviewed Ginger Lynn, she would have these huge, she told me she would have these huge contracts with major uh production companies and whatnot. And from what I understand, that's not the case anymore. When you do uh content for a Brozzers or uh uh or a military, do they pay you for the content or do they is there some kind of contract? How does that usually work?
SPEAKER_03Browsers, I believe, has contract stars, people that are on contract with them, so they're exclusive to browsers, which means they can't go shoot for Evil Angel or Team Skeet or um reality kings, they have to shoot. Well, they can probably shoot for reality kings because reality kings and browsers kind of same owner, yeah. Same sort of, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03Um, but they're on contract for that, and they're they are guaranteed so many scenes in a year, so they're guaranteed a certain amount of money for income, and that would probably vary based on who they are. Um, but of other performers, we are paid on a per scene basis. Um we're paid our rate, and our rates um go up the longer that we're in and the more things that we do.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00Now, what do you prefer? Do you prefer being on a contract or would you prefer doing a content?
SPEAKER_03I mean, I would love to be a contract star. Are you kidding me? Can you because on the back end, I'm gonna make so much money.
SPEAKER_00How does that know? So explain, how does that work?
SPEAKER_03When it what would so I'm maybe maybe I look at mainstream scenes a little bit differently than other girls. I think some girls look at mainstream scenes as their main source of income, or it's a popularity thing, or I don't know. But I look as mainstream scenes as free advertising. I'm getting paid to show up somewhere, and y'all are gonna advertise me and market me and push me to millions and millions of new potential um fans. So I just see it as like I would show up and do scenes for free because it's just it's just free marketing.
SPEAKER_00It makes sense, it makes all the sense in the world.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because the more scenes I do, the more OnlyFans, fans, you know, subscribers I have, the more followers I have, the more bookings I have, the more money I made.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, it makes all the sense in the world. Absolutely. And I think that's the difference with somebody who embraces uh uh that world and somebody who does. We've seen a lot of young girls that don't embrace it. They're like, oh, you know, they you could they kind of retire and they decide they're gonna cry somewhere on camera and say they've made a big mistake. And oh yeah, and but um uh but then you have people that embrace it like you, Ava, Sarah Jay. And it seems like monetarily you guys benefit the most because you've embraced it and you know how to advertise and maneuver in that world at this point. Yeah, so is that that's accurate? Yeah, so I I fully understand where you're coming from. You're basically free advertising. I mean, everybody goes immediately. The ad unless you are a porn nut, you know, the average person goes to uh Naughty America, bang bros, brazes, those are the bigger ones, right? They usually just kind of get off there and then move along. Yeah, uh, unless you are like, you know, somebody deep, deep, deep into it, a huge fan that knows all these other sites. Like those other sites you were telling me, I don't even I don't know, no way, no idea.
SPEAKER_03Oh, there's so many.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I can imagine. I just go to the you know, the originals and then that's about it, you know. But um, no, absolutely, that makes all the sense to the world. And of course, that's gonna help your book sales.
SPEAKER_03Right, yeah. And that I mean that that's that's my bread and butter is booking. So good, good. If you're paying me $9.99 on OnlyFans, you're probably not gonna compete with the guy that just you know paid a hundred times that yeah, right, right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, if you don't mind me asking, um, what uh and you don't have to answer this, it's just pla plain curiosity. What do you get for a booking and what does a booking entail?
SPEAKER_03Um my bookings are $800 an hour, $1,100 for 90 minutes, uh $1,500 for two hours, it kind of goes up from there, $5,000 for overnight. Um it depends. It's usually GFE, which is kissing and um yeah, kissing, just girlfriend stuff. I don't say everything. You can have to hit me up for some of the details. And then PSC is also an option, but that's an upcharge. Filming is an Upcharge roleplay is an upcharge. Um, yeah, I'm yeah, I'm pretty much the best deal on the internet. That's worth it. No, I am, I am, I am. Some I I think one young guy just gave me like a seven for looks, and I was like, did you even meet me?
SPEAKER_00I don't know, but I'm glad I'm actually uh glad you're you're doing well and you and you're and you're making money because um uh like I said, you know, if you're going to do it, and I've always said this if you're gonna do it, you you have to embrace it. Otherwise, if you can't embrace it and adjust mentally to that world, it's gonna just be a burden on you because the content doesn't go away. I don't care how much it does, it's always there for you.
SPEAKER_03I hope that my heirs, when I die, continue to try to sell my content. Yeah, make that money, make that bag.
SPEAKER_00You'll be the Elvis Presley of uh of uh of adult entertainment.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, I think we all have that plan. We're all gonna sell our library as an exit strategy and get a big check and let other companies make money off of it.
SPEAKER_00So so now last question, and then I'm gonna let you go. And I have to tell you, it has been nothing but it's been uh it's been an honor. It's been really, really fun interviewing you. What does Melanie Mellons do when she wants to just chill out and relax? And what do you actually do? Are there other uh do you like to binge watch TV shows or do you read books? Do you cook for you know, like you said, because you're big into uh culinary?
SPEAKER_03Um, if I'm having gonna have people around that I want to cook, but just for myself, I don't really want to, I'm not gonna do all that. That's a lot.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03Um when I want to relax, I don't know, I'll binge watch shows or um, I don't know, you know, I'm gonna sound super sappy, but honestly, my favorite uh thing to do for downtime is just to like lay on the couch with my boyfriend and have sex for like all day. That's that's that's my that's my well that sounds great.
SPEAKER_00I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I mean, like he could go like you know 10, 12 times a day, so I'm all about it. He's still trying to figure out how to get me to tap out.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, you know, yeah, good luck.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, I mean, like, you know, 25 times in two days, and I'm like, let's go again.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03He's like, Are you kidding? And I'm like, okay, I'll give you a few minutes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks. Now, um, what kind of shows do you uh like enjoy to binge watch? Are there is there anything are you like a huge fan of a particular like are you a Game of Thrones person? Are you a breaking bad person or or is there something else?
SPEAKER_03I mean, I like all of those. I think I watch a little bit of of everything. I watch uh The Boys, I watch Vice Principles, I watch, you know, I'm trying to think. Um, what else am I watching? Like right now, Bosch. I mean, I watch crime dramas, I watch, I can watch everything, just depends what the moon is. I watch Bridgerton. Ooh, yeah. Uh, how's Bosch? Um, it's it's good. It's kind of set in LA and Hollywood, right? So it always makes me feel like I'm home, you know. They've they have scenes like at the Viper Room and Bordner's, which I was the XRCO awards was just at. Like I just looped right back to that. Pretty good.
SPEAKER_00No, there's a there's a lot of the guys at work and people I talk to tell me, you gotta watch the show, you gotta watch it. And the truth of the matter is I don't have a lot of time.
SPEAKER_03You know, it's a great, it's it's a great show. I mean, like, yeah, yeah. I'll have to I'll have to try and I feel like it's pretty accurate because I know a lot of people in like um DOJ and military and you know um law enforcement and stuff, and they're all they all love it. They said it's like it feels gritty the way like there's real jobs do and stuff. So give it a watch.
SPEAKER_00All right, good. I'll have to I'll have to give it a shot because you know I'm a Game of Thrones guy, so uh Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Have you read the books?
SPEAKER_00I have not read the books, no.
SPEAKER_03I have listened to it so much better.
SPEAKER_00I know I've listened to the uh um what do you call it? Audio books audiobooks, yeah. And I've watched plenty of YouTube channels on it. Um and you know, now uh season three of uh uh was Dances with Dragons, I forgot the name of the series, um, is coming out. Um so that's that's actually pretty cool. But uh I'll be honest with you, by the time I live, you know, I basically have two full-time jobs. I do this and then and then I gotta get my ass to the gym so I look sexy, you know? Yeah, gotta look sexy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_03You do a pretty good job of it there, sir.
SPEAKER_00Oh, thank you very much. Thank you. Will you be at Exotica in New Jersey this year?
SPEAKER_03Absolutely. I wouldn't be.
SPEAKER_00All right, good.
SPEAKER_03Then I'll be I'm actually gonna be in New York, New Jersey. Uh one second, I have to look at my schedule. I'm gonna be there. Where is it? Uh oh, um July 20th through like July 27th. I'm gonna be in Greenwich and New York and New Jersey.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay, very cool.
SPEAKER_03Okay, way before exotica.
SPEAKER_00All right, very cool. We'll keep in touch.
SPEAKER_03Maybe we can uh Yeah, yeah, maybe you could have me over. I'll cook you something, you know?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Teach you a few things.
SPEAKER_00All right. Well, Melanie, it's been a it's been a pleasure, a real pleasure. Much love and respect to you. I hope hope uh nothing but good things for you, and I uh would love for you to come back on when the book comes out.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely, absolutely. I'll see you in a couple months.
SPEAKER_00All right, absolutely. Have a good night.
SPEAKER_03Thank you, baby. Bye bye.
SPEAKER_00Bye bye.