Exclusive interview: Halle Hayes, Adult Entertainer!

John Livia is joined by a special guest, Halle Hayes, Adult Entertainer for an all-new exclusive interview.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

All right, serious outcast. We have Hallie Hayes. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Hi. I'm good, John, Holly.

SPEAKER_00 0:08

And I actually just found out that you are a gym head just like me. Yeah, you look great. You look in shape. You look fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

What uh gym do you go to out there? You're in California, right?

SPEAKER_01 0:21

Yes, NorCal. Um, I just go to a 24-hour fitness.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Yeah, I used to go to a 24-hour fitness. Now I go to there's a gold and I go to an LA fitness. But I'm actually glad that you brought up uh the gym because I have this supplement company. These are the these are the supplements I use. It's called Nutrafit. So this is the pre-workout crowbar. So they have a they have a couple of pre-workouts. I'll keep this short. This is Crucifix. This is their really, really, really strong pre-workout. So do you know who Lee Priest is?

SPEAKER_01 0:56

No.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

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SPEAKER_01 2:02

I'm gonna be sure.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Yeah, I'll use the protein. Actually, you know what? After this, I'll I'll let me just make a note. After this, I'll get some uh supplements from for you and I'll send it over to you.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Supplements for Haley. Okay, all right. So, Haley, um you have been in the adult entertainment industry, and you also the first time I noticed you was at cosplay. I don't know if you still do cosplay, but you were doing cosplay for a long time. Yeah, and I remember the outfits that you had on. You had on these amazing, like uh superhero outfits, and um, I don't know if you remember the conversation because I had contacted you for the interview for the cosplay, and I don't know if you remember the conversation. You were telling me that majority of the costumes you get you buy, but some of them that you actually you actually designed yourself.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Um and then I realized then I saw you and I went, oh, you also do adult entertainment. And I was like, you would be perfect to come on for an interview. Um, so uh let's talk about the cosplay first. Are you still doing that?

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Okay, yeah, totally. Um I'm actually working on a new I haven't started it yet, but I'm getting all the pieces together. But I'm gonna do um Renera Targaryen from House of the Dragon.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

Oh, that's a good one. I'm a huge fan of the uh of the um like I go down the rabbit hole like nobody's business. So did you see not I I know I'm gonna I'm gonna stop myself from going down this rabbit hole with you. I did not know you were uh a Game of Thrones nut like me. That's okay, but did you see not the last episode, but the one before that, where uh Daenerys' son dies in the war, yes, and they bring her back, and her her real name is Emma Darcy.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

That was probably one of the greatest acting scenes I've ever seen in my life. When she sees her son dead, and I was like, I was like, this girl could act her ass off. And then when she had to um chop the head off of her friend's father, the former head head hand, it was at the end of the episode. She like couldn't do it, and and her husband's like telling her he she has to, and he she tries, and he like misses, she misses that one shot and hits him in the back. Yeah, but her acting ability was amazing. I'm like, this girl's gotta win an Emmy or something. It was absolutely amazing.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

No, she's like so by the way, do you want me to turn this off just whatever you want?

SPEAKER_00 4:49

It's not bothering me.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Okay, cool, cool. But um, like after he died, and she was like, Like, why are you dead? Basically, like I like started crying. I was like, damn, this is just very it's just peak, all of the Game of Thrones stuff.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

You know what I you know what I actually love about the Game of Thrones? Um, and this is gonna sound strange, but I need some reality in my fantasy, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Totally.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

So the human element and instincts that we could all relate to, like her, she's not a warrior. Her husband and and uncle, he's a warrior. So killing to him is nothing. To her, it is like uh uh it's it's very difficult for her, and the way she portrayed it was amazing. And anybody, you know, um, and then when she becomes queen in the last episode and she's dealing with the stress of being queen and she's trying to juggle, that was just I mean, that that's totally relatable. Even if you get promoted at work and you have to deal with the new responsibilities, you can relate to that, right? That's what I love about that show. The the fact that there is reality in my fantasy, and it was just a me amazing. Um which did you watch uh Knight of the Seven Kingdoms?

SPEAKER_01 6:09

Yes, I did.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

I know. Tell me, tell me. I absolutely I watched it twice, and it was only six episodes, half hour each. I watched it twice.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Yeah, yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

It was amazing. Uh okay, I can't get over. We gotta talk about you. We gotta talk about you.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

Go into it.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

All right, so so what um how you did how are you designing this costume and where are you wearing it to?

SPEAKER_01 6:34

So I'm gonna just do like the book Rainier version, which is more like threads and like um it's kind of like more luxurious, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

Like in the show, I think she's more sleek, but yes, yeah, and she's she's also a little heavy set in the book.

SPEAKER_01 6:55

Yes, yes. So she's like curvy and chubby.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

That's right. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

I'm excited to just yeah, so I just have to get the um the gown fabric and then just sew it. I'll probably 3D print the parts and I'll probably wear it um like online for now, but next year I think I might take it to like anime anime expo in LA or something, just to just have fun with it.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

But yeah, that that would be great. When you when you put it together, you have to send me pictures because Game of Thrones fanatic.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Who's your favorite in uh Knight of the Seven Kingdoms?

SPEAKER_00 7:33

Oh, clearly the Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, it's um uh besides the main character, besides Duncan, besides Duncan, it would have to be egg.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

Egg, egg, yeah, the little boy. The my favorite, one of my favorite scenes is when they're doing Tug of War and they're playing Tug of War, and he's in the front and he's pulling so hard that his feet come off the floor. That's good. And then uh the Baratheon with the horns, he's a good character, too.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Yeah, um, the guy that oh, spoilers, but the one that uh at the end of the battle when he took his yeah, he was great. I thought about that.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

Oh, you you know, you're talking about I'm talking about the uh the Baratheon, the guy with the horns. That's he doesn't die. You're talking about the Targaryen who dies, he gets hit in the back of the head by his brother.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:26

That was insane. Insane, like yeah, but the Baratheon was the guy that he goes into his tent for dinner and he goes, What are you doing in my tent? And like he goes, uh supper. And he's like, That's actually a good answer.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

Is he the guy at the beginning?

SPEAKER_00 8:45

Kind of he wears he wears the crown and he has the horns coming out of oh, the the the is he like the king or something? He's the he's the he's the lord of the Baratheon house.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Got it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:57

So I believe in Game of Thrones, um uh Ned's friend, the king in the first season, um, uh the Baratheon, the big fat guy. Uh yeah, okay. That I believe that's his great-grandfather because it goes back that that far.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Wow, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, it's uh please.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

We can go, we can talk about this forever. Matter of fact, we might actually have to have a phone conversation, but all right. So, okay, so you do the cosplay, and that's uh fantastic. Uh, I think I think it's so cool with the outfits and whatnot. I'd never been to one, too. I really should go to one.

SPEAKER_01 9:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

So how did you find yourself doing adult content?

SPEAKER_01 9:41

Um, I started that about six, seven, maybe like eight years ago. And when I was 18 or 19, and I just started stripping, and then uh out of nowhere, like I just kind of got invited to like that's every every girl I interview, that's their story.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

The exact same story. I started working at a club, I was dancing, I was stripping, and then I had a friend who did it, or a guy invited me to do it, and they it's the same story, same thing.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

That's it, and it was just like love at first. I I just love this job.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

Did you really?

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Yeah, it's like I get to be creative, kind of in in all the different ways, and I feel like it's like opening up so it's not just like about glamour, like you can kind of be creative in the content you share, and companies are even doing that.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

I just you've embraced it basically. You've embraced it. I've noticed the women that embrace it are the ones that are successful at it. The women that don't embrace it, the women that do it because either they need money or they get caught up in the on the life, um, they kind of break down. Yeah. And they either they either leave and find um Christianity or they uh get really bad into alcohol and drugs. But I've noticed that the ones that completely embrace it and they go, look, this is what I am, this is what I do for a living, and I'm gonna do it to the best of my ability, those are the ones that have become successful, like the Ava Devines, the Sarah Jays, uh, the Brittany uh O'Neill's, the Brittany Andrews, all those girls that have been doing it for so long. Um, they and they become very successful at it. Sadly, though, a lot of girls, you know, uh don't want to don't want that to be their identity, and they go down this drug rabbit hole, or they quit and then they they find God, which is I guess if that's what helps you and that's what heals you, then fine, you know, to each his own. Yeah, I feel like you can do both, but so now um are you still doing adult content?

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

Um are you doing it for yourself or are you doing it for the larger internet production companies?

SPEAKER_01 11:56

I'm doing it for myself right now. Okay, yeah, so like only fans content, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

Okay, so you have an old you have an OF. Do you have any other? Oh, what is your Instagram? Do you have an Instagram?

SPEAKER_01 12:09

Yes, I just recently made a new one. It's called They Love Holly. So it's like T H E Y E Y L U V V V V Yeah, and then Holly, H A L L E.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

They love okay. I am because I can't put the links to the adult content in the description in YouTube, but I could put uh but I could put your Instagram, which I'm sure has the links to it when people go to the Instagram. So I could do that. So I'm gonna make sure that that Instagram is in the description, and that is uh they love Hallie, so that's with two Vs. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

All right. Where did you grow up?

SPEAKER_01 12:51

I grew up in San Jose.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

Okay. Um and what kind of what kind of student were you when you were in school? Were you uh studious or were you a rebel, or did you drop out, or did you find um did you find adult content after you graduated? How did all that work out?

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Yeah, um, I was a rebel, like I was not super good with school. I was I was like getting teachers saying like she would be great if she applied herself a lot, and I was just like, I will not apply myself. This is not my thing.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

Like okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Um, my last few years I ended up doing good because I needed to like get my grades higher to graduate.

SPEAKER_00 13:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

But after that, like, like I said, I just got into stripping. I had a couple friends that were um like fast as you would call it. And like, yeah, and it just kind of went from there, I don't know, learned.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

So you actually started uh working in the clubs as as early as 18.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Yeah, yeah. It was pretty much I want to say like a summer after graduation.

SPEAKER_00 14:06

Um how fast did you go from dancing at the clubs to actually doing full um full-on adult entertainment?

SPEAKER_01 14:18

Like a year, I think.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Okay, was it a difficult transition or you just fell right into it? Just accepted it right away.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

It was I accepted it because like I got fired from the club I was at for being late, and I was just super pissed. And I was like, I'm gonna go do something else. And this like fell in my lap, so I just did it to like the best of my abilities.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

Well, at least I know I'm not the only one then. If you're late, I'm just teasing you. I'm just teasing you. I'm used to it. I've had this channel for six years. I'm used to it, don't worry, I'm only teasing you. Um, so now were you made sure you were on time for for the uh for the uh you know the major production companies that uh oh you made sure you're on time for that, yeah. And I can only imagine like a guy like sitting there, like you know, just like all ready, and like here comes Hallie an hour late, and it's like would you you really want me to keep this thing hard for an hour? Hallie, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So um, your background, yes, ethnic background. What ethnic, what ethnicity are you?

SPEAKER_01 15:33

I'm black, I'm just full 100%.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Um, I'm light skinned.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

So people think maybe a mix, but no, just okay. And did you have uh when you were growing up, did you have both parents in with you or um well I got like a stepdad, like it was me and my mom till like eighth grade, and then after that it's like mom dads.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Okay, yeah. So uh single mom, then eighth grade, which is how old are you about 14?

SPEAKER_01 16:05

And yeah, so I was already kind of like grown up, but right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

Did you do still have a good relationship with uh your mom and your stepdad?

SPEAKER_01 16:13

Yeah, it was like kind of weird, like going from nothing to like just having this like dad, but like over time I grew into it, and yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

Yeah, okay, and they fully accept you for what you're what you do for a living, and uh it's never a problem.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

Yeah, I think like even if like even my mom doesn't really know what I do, like seriously, like I don't think she knows like the intricacies, but she just knows that like I looked good and like she's happy about that, and she's happy I'm like making money and like being safe.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

Okay, good, good, good, good, good. Uh yeah, believe me, some things are better left unsaid. That's all. You know, have you ever gotten like oh, that's a good question. Have you ever gotten like your stepdad, like one of his friends, like say, uh, you know who I saw on uh your my laptop last night? Has that ever happened?

SPEAKER_01 17:15

Not my stepdad, but I do have like aunts and uncles who like will literally just straight up be like, my friend follows you and like they want to beat you. I'm just like, dang, like yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but not there specifically.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

I've always noticed like um you maybe you notice this at the gym. I'm I'm I'm a lot older than you, and I don't really I find it like when a guy is over the age of let's say 45 and he's still like like when you're 20, if when you're a 25-year-old man and you're or a 21-year-old man and you're chasing women, I mean you're kind of that's what you're kind of expected to do, right? You go out, want to meet girls. But when I've noticed that when you are 45, 50, 55, and you're still doing that as a man, it it to me, it really is pathetic. It's like, why don't you why don't you? You it's it's over. Yeah, and I like I've been in the gym where these older guys are talking to these young girls, and they like they get right up right up in their face, like they get really close, you know. And I've sit because I'm a big people watcher, yeah. You know, and all I'm thinking to myself, if that was my niece, I would beat the shit out of you right now. Yeah, right, right, like like because I have like I have one, two, three, five nieces.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

Aw, okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

And I was in my head, I'm going, if if if I ever was at some place where somebody got that close to my niece, I don't know if I I I really would. I would beat you into the ground. I'd be like, You get because it's it's close and it's touchy-feely. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 19:00

I know what you mean. Like, I've seen it at like parties for like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Girls of I I haven't seen it at the gym.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

All the let me be let me let me speak frank, and I will speak very frank. It's a particular, it's a particular culture that does it. Oh and it's not black and it's not white. It's Spanish.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Really?

SPEAKER_00 19:23

Okay, like by me, it by me in New Jersey and in New York, there's a lot of uh Dominican.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

And they are very flirtatious, very touchy-feely, and it's like it's almost like and it's always with uh a girl that's 10, 20, 25 years younger, and it's like, dude, you gotta fucking stop. Like it's it's bad. There's this one guy, I swear to god, I don't know why I'm talking about this.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

No, it's it's like what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

There's this one guy that goes to the gym. When I go to the gym, for the most part, I I mean, I like talking, obviously. I have a podcast. I like shooting the shit with people before and after, or sometimes I'm working out with a friend, but most of the time by myself. Uh, you know, I I for the most part I'm in the zone and you know, I'm training or whatever. And there's this one guy that goes there, this Spanish guy. And he looks like he's ready to tear the weights apart. He's got the he's got the you know, the uh the compression pants with the shorts over it, you know, the Jordans on, he's got a tank top, he's got the ears, you know, the big, the big buds, like the the big uh what used to be the um beats, you know, close type of ear things. I I have those little, you know, the earbuds. Yeah, the little earbuds. And all this guy does is talk to girls. That's all he does is go around and talk. I've never seen him do a push-up, I've never seen him do a pull-up, I've never all he does is talk to the girls.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

What a like slimy guy.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

Yeah, and it's like, and I'm like, and and the thing is it's one, it's not one of those private gyms. Like private gyms, you really can't get away with that if the owner is like right there, you know. Yeah, but the the it's it's LA Fitness, so it's like it's a very uh it's a corporate gym. So you have a bunch of kids running it, and it's like you know, and and I've seen like I've seen you know, and and some of the girls, you know, give right in, and then some of the girls, you know, kind of take a step back, and then he steps forward, and it's like, all right, dude, take the hint, you know.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Anyway, but just every day, like that's dedication to yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

It's it's it's honestly, it's honestly pathetic, but I don't know, maybe it's me. I mean, I love a beautiful woman as much as anybody else, yeah, but I I am certainly not going to make somebody uncomfortable, you know. I'm certainly not like even if there's like uh when I'm doing cardio and there's like you know a line of treadmills, I always try to pick the treadmill nobody is on in between, so I don't on either side.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

Sometimes I don't have a choice. I you know, there's it's too packed or whatever, but okay. Let's go, let's uh go on. So um You are obviously you've done plenty of uh uh big bust stuff. You you're you're that's what you're famous for, right? Your your butt and your boobs. Um your boobs are uh are implants, I'm assuming, right? And but I'm going to also assume that your butt is natural.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

No, I actually really yeah, no, it's I'm completely not natural, like head to toe, uh like my nose is done too, like really, because your butt looks it uh looks really how do you do that?

SPEAKER_00 22:36

How do you make it look how is it that natural? Like I've seen girls that do the injections and you could literally see the it pin in behind it pin. I've seen girls with the uh implant and you could clearly see it. Clearly see, yeah. So how did you do it?

SPEAKER_01 22:50

I don't know. Like I've had a couple BBLs, and I think Oh, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:56

Well, I've had I have butt implants too now. Oh but like I don't know like what it is about my body, but it just reabsorbs the fat so quickly. So, like after I get it done, like I feel like three of them, it'll come out super big and then it just shrinks, and I like go again and it's like big and it shrinks, and I'm like, So I don't know if my body just doesn't like holding on to the fat or what, but yeah, so it's a combination of both.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

You have an implant and you've had BBL. Yes, yeah, both now, but you're very you're very thin. Where does the weight come from from the BBL? How does it's not like you have you know body fat, you know?

SPEAKER_01 23:37

Maybe that's like low-key the problem I'm running into. Cause like I feel a lot um bigger than I am. I feel like just because I'm tall, like I feel like I'm like a little fatter, but realistically, when they get in there, they're like, girl, we don't have any.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Oh well, if anybody, if anybody uh watches you on, you know, watches your content, you can clearly see like there is your waist is very small, you don't have any body fat. So that's why that's why I'm actually like, how does how does that have because my my wife went about I don't know, five or six years ago? And the first the first thing the doctor told her is she has to put 20 pounds on. That was the first thing the doctor said, and of course she wasn't gonna do that because you know, God, you know, that's 20 pounds is a lot. And she's five foot four, she's not she's not tall like you, you know.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Yeah, and then like you have to like keep it. And I'm like, how does that gonna work?

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Yeah. So to explain to me, I never un knew how an an implant in the butt worked. Like, how do they actually perform the operation? Where do they go in from?

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Um, they go in from like this is like your butt, this is like your butt crack, and they do two incisions and they put the implants there, and then yeah, they're just they just sit there.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

So okay, so it's in I see this. So they tuck it in. Now, do you how what I had what about the healing process? Do you can you sit down?

SPEAKER_01 25:07

Can you lay on it well for mine actually they did um because I did a restless and a the butt implance at the same time. So like I had to lay on my back. So they would just put like two pillows under my back and then two under my thigh. So it was like my butt was kind of hovering on the bed, but usually you lay on your stomach for like probably six to eight weeks.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

So that's what it's six to eight weeks that you can't sit on your your rear end? That's gotta be a pain in the ass, no pun intended.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

Literally.

SPEAKER_00 25:40

Because you I would think like toward the end when it's healing and you don't really feel the pain so much, and you know it's out of habit, you go to sit down, like, oh shit, can't sit down. So, like, do they give you a special thing to sit on?

SPEAKER_01 25:54

So you have like a little pillow. Um, it's like a BBL pillow. I wish I had it here so I could show you, but I literally on the 14 hour because I went to Turkey to do it, like Istanbul Turkey.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

A lot of people are doing that. A guy's a lot of a lot of guys are going for their hair implants. Yeah, and I think um I interviewed Brittany Andrews, and she got I think she went to Turkey to do a whole facelift up, to be honest with you. So go ahead. So go ahead, you went to Turkey.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

Oh no, Turkey's good. Um, um what did I do? Oh my god, I forgot. Um oh on the plane ride back, it was like 14 hours or whatever. So they gave me a a pillow. So like you put it under your thighs and like your butt just hangs off basically. So you have yeah, like so. Here's your butt.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

Okay. So I'm gonna ask you to do me a favor. Um, when you decide one day that you want to exit uh the industry, don't change your body, just be a you know, sexy, curvy woman that decided to change because I've noticed a lot of girls once they change, they they leave the industry, they decide that well, I don't want the big boobs anymore, I don't want the big butt anymore, and they just get rid of them. And it's kind of all disappointing. You're like, wait a minute, I've always fantasized about you with large breasts, and now now they're gone. Yeah. Now I I get I get mad, I fucking slam things. I'm like, I'm like kidding.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

No, I think you should stay you. I feel like that's like to me, it feels like a little like like inauthentic or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

Like yeah, it's like, well, did you do so? You did that strictly for work, or do you not want that to be your identity? So you want to get this out, or I've noticed that a lot of women just want to follow the trend, and they go, you know, oh, oh, extra, extra large breast implants aren't the trend anymore, so let me get rid of them. I've seen a lot of girls that have natural, beautiful natural breasts, and then they get them reduced. And it's like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 28:03

I've seen that too.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

I'm kind of like, what are you doing? It's like that's what brought you to the dance. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 28:10

You know, that's so true.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

Yeah, it it's it it baffles me. It's like that's what made you famous. That's what that's what and then they just don't and um it's it's uh you know it remember when I said I need some reality in my fantasy in Game of Thrones? Yes, I need reality in my fantasy when it comes to adult entertainment.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

So when I know a girl has changed her body, I can't look at her anymore because I know that's not what she looks like anymore.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

Yeah, it's it no, it's it's a very like small, subtle thing, but it it matters, like it does count, I find. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

Okay, all right. So what are you working on now? Are you strictly doing um uh content on your own or it's a combination of both?

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Um, it's just content on my own. Right now I'm just like trying to like do collabs that kind of align with like what I kind of want my content to look like.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

Yeah, um so you have an OF platform. What other platforms do you uh create content on?

SPEAKER_01 29:20

For now, I only do OF. Uh I used to do mini-vids, I used to do I think it was just mini-vids really. Um but I wanted to just center on OF. I do have like a like a dominatrix OF too, but like I think my main one is just like OF.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

Right, okay, okay. If that's working and that's pays the bills. And now did you have OF before you did adult entertainment or you had adult, you did the adult entertainment and then did OF? Because I've noticed that a lot of girls what they do is they'll do the adult entertainment um and then they'll get the OF because it gives them like uh people recognize them and then they kind of people will go and look for them on OF. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

Um I didn't know you did or you did it the reverse. You went on uh OF first and then adult entertainment.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Um no, it was definitely like adult first and then OF came. I think that's like where all my fans came from, too. Like, I don't think anyone would have known me on OF OF if I just like started out in um Yeah, well uh uh OF is very flooded now.

SPEAKER_00 30:31

I think there's over a million content creators that are women. And yeah, it's not like it was during COVID, during 2000, it is very, very flooded. So you you know, in order for a girl to be successful on OF, you have to do you have to stick out. And you you kind of if you do the um full-fledged adult entertainment and it's on you know one of the larger like braid browsers or whatever the other ones are bang bros and you're on the oil. Yeah, we yeah, if you're on one of those, then I've noticed that really helps with your personal content. Where's like the waitress that decides I'm gonna do OF, it doesn't work out too much. And they also also I've noticed that they don't want to put the time in to do the content, which oh yeah, well, they'll do two videos and they'll be like, uh, it didn't work out. It's like you did two fucking videos, and the same thing happens in my world, like in the YouTube world. Like it's it's like it's like they'll do they'll do two or three videos and the and they'll stop. And I'm like, I've been doing this for six years straight with no stop. It's like, what do you think? It's just gonna happen overnight. You gotta put the work in.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

I don't understand that. Like baffles me, baffles, you know.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

It it's like you gotta put the time and work in. This whole bullshit well only takes one video. That's a crock of shit. It really is because I have videos that have over a half a million views on my YouTube channel, and it didn't that didn't help any at all. At all.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

Really? Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

My my biggest my my most viewed video is Ginger Lynn, who is an old school retired uh uh adult entertainer. She was doing adult entertainment from the late 70s into the early 90s. I met her at an exotica in New York. She agreed to come on, she was very nice, and she talked about uh working with Ron Jeremy and John Holmes. I don't know if you know who they are, but they were famous.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Ron Jeremy, definitely. John Holmes, though.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

John Holmes was a adult entertainer, male adult entertainer in the late 70s into the early 80s, and he actually died of AIDS. He died of uh back then, AIDS was rampant, and he was obvious he was also doing um gay, gay, uh gay for pay.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

Um and back then, you know, if you had full-blown AIDS, there was no cure. And this we we talked about it, and uh we actually talked about because she worked with him during the time he had AIDS and she didn't know. And this, you know, and she talked about how she ran to the doctor, got blood tested, and she was very nervous. And that's my that's my most viewed video. It's like over a half a million views.

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Yeah, that's super interesting, though.

SPEAKER_00 33:24

I kind of see how, yeah. Yeah, but that was nobody ever says, hey, you're the guy. No, it doesn't work that way. No, no, no, no, no, not at all. Not at all.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

No, maybe what I mean who knows, you know.

SPEAKER_00 33:35

You know, so it does. It takes a lot of it's like anything else. You just gotta keep crack, keep cracking it, keep cracking out, keep cracking out, you know, and um that's how it works. So same thing with your world, same thing with my world. You just gotta keep making making content. Yeah, and I keep reinventing yourself, you know.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

Well, that's what like makes it good to like. I feel like over the years I've gotten like better and like also you build your fandom, like the people that support you, they like I think they appreciate the longevity as opposed to just like I don't know, like shock value videos or like I don't know what YouTube kind of videos do well, but like I'm sure they appreciate like the long journey, you know, as opposed to the I yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:25

What you're saying is the um uh the shooting star, the shooting star never lasts, right? The or the over the overnight success doesn't last on YouTube. Yeah, the the over the overnight success, especially the young guys. Um uh it usually it usually comes up very high and then crashes. Um it's usually the people that you know have a slow growth because the slow growth builds true fans.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

For real. That's that's so true.

SPEAKER_00 34:55

Like yeah, and I'm sure it's the same in your world. It is, yeah. I'm sure it's the same in your world.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

It really is.

SPEAKER_00 35:03

Have you ever gone to an expo, an adult expo, like the Exotica or anything like that?

SPEAKER_01 35:08

Oh, yeah, I used to go to this all the time.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Okay, they have one uh in New York, it's held in New Jersey, it's maybe 25 minutes from me. And I didn't go last year, but I would you I would go and I would try to. That's how I met um uh Brent Andrews, and that's how I got the interviews with some of these girls, and I've met a bunch of them, um Gianna Dior and so on and so forth. And I've noticed, and I'm gonna break it down. You tell me if I'm accurate. Okay. There are certain type of there is a certain type of population that go to these expos all the time. Okay. So I'm gonna break it down. You tell me if I'm accurate, okay? Okay, all right. The first one is the couple that wants to spice things up. They go there, they look at the toys, and they may take pictures because they watch, maybe they watch adult entertainment together, and which is you know, it's fine, you know. They you know, um, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 36:05

There's definitely those people, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Yeah, okay, so that's one of them. Uh the other one, um is kind of like the I don't know what the other word kind of like the freaks that want to be accepted, and they feel if they go to these places they'll be accepted.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

So it's like um the dudes. So like it's like it's like the uh I don't even consider them trans. It's like a guy with a wig and a crooked lipstick and a purse, and they're like, they're ready to go. I'm ready. Like it's just like me. It would be the me with a leg and the like like Buffalo Bill from from uh Silence of the Lambs.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

I've never seen that movie. No, it's too scary looking.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

Okay, you have to watch it, it's phenomenal. So this so it's basically I don't even consider them a trans person, like they put no effort into it. It's literally yeah, it's literally a guy that looks like me with a crooked wig, fucked up lipstick, and you know, they feel I guess they feel that they're gonna be accepted. So that's yeah, that's the second type that I've noticed. Have you noticed that as well?

SPEAKER_01 37:14

I have not seen that guy. Really? I'll keep a lookout next time. No, I see.

SPEAKER_00 37:19

Next time you see, next time you see, yeah, and then the third type I I refer to as the super fan. And this is the guy that knows everything about Hallie Hayes. He knows all he knows all your movies, he knows what scenes, he knows who you worked with, he knows where you're from. They're like super duper fans, and they just go there and they always look the same. They may have glasses, the comb over, like they're very, you know, kind of like nerdy looking, you know. Yeah, all right. It's it's never the guy that you know you'd look at and go, yo, he's cute. No, it's it's always the kind of the dorky, dorky guy. And they're the super. They are they are they are the super duper fans. They will buy anything you're selling, they are just they know you know everything about you. And then there's my favorite. And those are the guys that could be anywhere from two to five of them, maybe more, that are at the bar drinking, and they're like, yo, let's go to the fucking porn expo. And they're like, Yeah, and they come in and they're trashed. And usually the young girls that are just starting out, like they'll take pictures with them, they'll hold them over their head, you know. The good the girl will be on her back while he's crawling on all fours while his friend is videoing it, like, and they're they're just laughing and having a blast.

SPEAKER_01 38:43

Yeah, no, those guys are fun.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

I feel like Yeah, they they have no clue who you are, they're just like they're gonna have a blast. I don't even know what this is, but every time I go, those four fans are always they're always there. And then I'm the odd one out. I'm the guy that's like, hey, listen, I'm a podcaster, I like to interview you. Like working, like you know, it's funny. It's like you know, Sarah J would uh would look at me like who's this? Like, I'm the weirdo there. Like, I'm the weirdo, like I don't fit into a category. I'm the I'm the weird guy.

SPEAKER_01 39:21

I actually met her at one of those expos too in Miami. It's funny you bring it up, but yeah, no, like out of everybody here, I'm the most normal person.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

Yeah, she was the uh she was one of the first girls that ever came on my channel. I'm uh forever grateful. You know, it was uh during it was right after COVID, and I just messaged her on Instagram actually. And um then I went to the expo where she was there, and you know, she remembered me. I I talked to her a little bit, but yeah, I would always forever grateful for the people that came on my show from the beginning, somebody like that. Um, this is this a few others, but then it's my have my other bodybuilding channel, those those. Because you know, I at that time, like okay, like when I messaged you, I just sent you the interview of Ava Devine, and you're like, Oh, this guy's legit. He interviewed Ava Divine. Now, back then I had nothing. I was just like, hey, come on. And you know, she was like, Yeah, you know, and so was like creep, so think I'm creepy, just like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was always forever grateful, grateful for for that, you know, for for her um for her just saying yeah to come on. And it was a great interview. It was a fantastic interview.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

Okay. So now what type of now you're you're a young lady, you're beautiful, you do adult entertainment, you have this incredible body, you obviously are have a great sense of humor, great personality. What type of guys do you what type of guys do you like to date in your private life? And if you tell me a guy who just got out of jail with a DUI and a neck tattoo, I'm ending this.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

You're not wrong. Like I hate that about myself too. I don't know. The jailbird, oh, I shouldn't say that, but I feel like they they are more attractive to me than I am to them. So it just ends up being like that.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

Yeah, but you could say no, that's the idea, right? The men have to approach you. True. Women women market themselves, women are the are the salesmen, and then we're you know, I mean, men are the salesmen, women market themselves, yeah. Um but um and what's funny is that you don't even girl, like I've noticed that those like they're not even in jail for cool things, yeah. They're in jail for like stupid shit, like a DUI or or or or violating their parole, like they're fuck complete fuck ups. It's like you never see a girl um like yourself that says, Oh, yeah, my my boyfriend just got out of jail for embezzlement, um, but uh of course tax fraud or it's part of organized crime and you know it was extortion. No, it's always some fucking asshole that got caught or like a like a like a like a breaking his parole with the ankle bracelet with a with a half a joint in his car.

SPEAKER_01 42:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a mess.

SPEAKER_00 42:28

It's always one of those. It kills me. It fucking kills me.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

Yeah. I um I don't know if that's my type though. I think that's just what life has kind of been throwing me in like, okay, but I think like I you I usually like dating nerds. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

Well then what? All right, if you all right, let's test this then. Are you dating anybody now?

SPEAKER_01 42:52

No.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

Okay. The last guy you dated, what did he do for a living?

SPEAKER_01 43:00

He did construction.

SPEAKER_00 43:02

Okay, was he in jail?

SPEAKER_01 43:04

No, he was not in jail.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Has he ever been in jail?

SPEAKER_01 43:10

Maybe like when he was younger.

SPEAKER_00 43:12

Okay, so that's not a nerd.

SPEAKER_01 43:16

Okay, the guy before that was a nerd.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

Okay, explain. Was he a nerd? Was he an accountant? Was he good with numbers?

SPEAKER_01 43:24

No, he just worked like at like a dispensary or something.

SPEAKER_00 43:28

Um that's not a nerd. That's not a nerd.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

That's an he okay. He was like a a hippie nerd, like a Santa Cruz nerd. I should say.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

Uh so he he oh, he's one of those yuppie hippies. So that okay, I I see what you're saying. Maybe this definition maybe the definition of nerd is different. Like I think of nerd, I think a guy with like a uh a pen, a pen um holder in his pocket, in you know, locked in a room doing long division for the rest of his life.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

You're right.

SPEAKER_00 44:01

You know, you know, really good with numbers, like, you know, defrauding like, you know, some kind of capital gains code for financial firms. That's what I think of as a nerd, you know?

SPEAKER_01 44:12

That's like a that's like a Wall Street guy.

SPEAKER_00 44:17

Or like a I've heard I don't know how to I've heard there is one particular guy you like a lot. Not one particular guy, one type of guy.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

Yeah. I've heard you like Italian guys from Jersey that are very muscular and have YouTube channels. That's that's just what I've heard. And and and and and are bold with with terrible New York accents.

SPEAKER_01 44:43

Can I ask? Because your accent almost like was giving me like Boston. No, so you're not Boston. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:51

Brooklyn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:53

But it maybe it's the Italian.

SPEAKER_00 44:55

It's similar, but it's like it's similar, but no, it's like like okay, so like for example, this is what I mean by similar. Like so somebody from Boston would say park the car.

SPEAKER_01 45:06

What?

SPEAKER_00 45:07

Like like a okay, so in in in legitimate English, it is park the car. Yeah. Somebody from Boston would say park the car. Somebody from Brooklyn would say park the car.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

It's like a brownness. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

Got it.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's what it. Or okay, or or somebody from somebody from Boston would say Boston. But somebody, somebody from New York would say Boston. Um there's where you play, it's where you place it. So like you would say, you would say, like say the word chocolate.

SPEAKER_01 45:52

Chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

Uh you say chocolate, right? I say, I say chocolate.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

Chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 45:58

So there's like exactly, exactly. It's like it's like from the front of your face. You gotta kind of talk the front of your face.

SPEAKER_01 46:04

It's almost like French.

SPEAKER_00 46:05

Like, so it's like I gotta do the laundry, you know. Laundry, yeah. You know, I'm getting my you know, yeah, that's that's how it is.

SPEAKER_01 46:14

It like comes from the soul.

SPEAKER_00 46:16

It's like it's like it's like everything is from like the front of your yeah, of your baseball, baseball, you know. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:27

Like uh the guys at work are like Johnny have you interviewed any more porno stars? Yeah, yeah. Funny you should say that, actually. That's how it works.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

Yep, okay.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

Okay, let's talk about one more topic, and then I will let you go because you've been going on for almost an hour already, and I don't want to take up too much of your time. You have been a pleasure, to be honest with you. You've been an absolute pleasure.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

It's been awesome.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

Okay. Um, how many? You are very popular for your uh boobs. Tell us tell us about your uh uh augmentation, how many augmentations you've had, so on and so forth, how big CCs, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

Yeah. Um, the first time I got them big, I went to 1700cc.

SPEAKER_00 47:14

And that's both or yeah, each each boob. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

And now I'm at 16. Okay. Um I had like a breastlet in between, just fixing some little cosmetic flaws things. I I just kind of wanted them more even, but um, yeah, I had 1700.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

Okay. So now men don't know CCs unless you talk about unless you're talking about motorcycles. Yeah. So um what cup size?

SPEAKER_01 47:46

Honestly, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 47:48

Like I well, you're clearly bigger than a double D, right?

SPEAKER_01 47:52

Yeah, yeah. Because a double D will like not even cover the bottom, like it just like will go there.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

So what if you if you do have to buy a bra, what bra size would you would you buy?

SPEAKER_01 48:04

Okay, if I was like buying like a bra that would actually like fit me. Yeah, like an age, maybe an age cup.

SPEAKER_00 48:15

Okay. The next question is where do you find bras and clothes that fit? Because normally when a girl has a regular girl has a breast epic, she they usually overweight, so their cloth, their clothes are like very flowy, you know what I mean? Where do you where somebody like you who's athletic, but you have you know, you have incredible boobs, but you're very athletic and lean, where do you get your clothing from?

SPEAKER_01 48:38

Uh everywhere, like anywhere. I yeah, yeah, because I wear kind of like all stretchy spandexy stuff. So like yeah, it literally you can get like a shirt like that at the mall or like online or is there a particular type of store that you go to or or no? Any it's um there's like a store. There's a store uh in the mall near here that's just like cutesy and just like little like almost like euphoria looking outfits that I just surprising.

SPEAKER_00 49:11

You don't have a problem, but um and what about like uh bikinis or bras? Because I would assume that you know they would they don't go that big, you know. I think Victoria's Secrets only goes up to double D or triple D or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

Um I like okay, I do like Victoria's Secret because like I always shop there before I got my boots big. So like, but I think now I actually do have to like change because like I said, like if I get the bras, like even if they're really big, like which is not that big in Victoria's Secret size, but like it kind of cuts my boobs off, and like I used to be okay with it, but now like I kind of want something that fits better. So I might honestly have to like brash off a little bit and see who has like a good bra.

SPEAKER_00 49:58

But I usually just did Victoria's Secret, so I'm gonna I've had plenty of girls on um uh like like I don't know if you know who she is, Jana Woods. Um she's a big a big bus model. You probably know if you see her. Um she has a particular website that she has to go to to buy her bras, but she's like I think she's like a pea cup or something like that. Like it's insane. Yeah, no, it's it's insane. It's just it's it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 50:27

I'll um I'll um message her and then I'll get the website and I'll send it to you.

SPEAKER_01 50:32

Please. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 50:33

Yeah, absolutely. Uh absolutely okay. One last question, and then I'm gonna let you go. And you you have to come back because you honestly, you are a pleasure, like an absolute pleasure. Thank you. Oh, you're very welcome. You too. Who is your favorite character in let's go each one? Game of Thrones. Who's your favorite character in Game of Thrones? Oh, that's a big one because that was eight seasons.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

Dang, um Danny.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

Yeah, I either either Danny or uh Cersei.

SPEAKER_00 51:09

Okay, okay, okay, yeah. I'm a big villain guy. Yeah, I'm a big villain guy, so I liked Ramsey Bolton.

SPEAKER_01 51:18

Oh my at least you didn't say Stannis.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

Oh no, Stannis sucked. Like Stannis is yeah, no, Stannis was like yeah, but uh Ramsey Bolton, he played the shit out of that role. Oh yeah, he's a good actor. Phenomenal. I mean Joffrey was a good villain too. But Ramsey was just a psycho. It was unbelievable. I'm a big, I'm a big villain guy. I like I I always like the villains, and that that's kind of like why I don't like um uh House of Dragons as much as I like the other two series, because there's really no clear-cut villain.

SPEAKER_01 51:57

Well, the in the book, they in the book they say Reneer is supposed to be kind of like a villain, like and she's not like yeah, she's not like level-headed at all. Like in the show, she's very yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:09

Well, you know, George R R R Martin left that show.

SPEAKER_01 52:13

Yeah, after season two, he left.

SPEAKER_00 52:15

He walked out, he's like, you know, you guys and you guys are ruining it. Yeah, you guys are ruining it. He stayed on for Game of Thrones and he stayed on for Night of the Seven Kingdoms, but um, but this one he just left, he ruined it because and he and you know, because what people don't understand is like the better the antagonist, the better the villain, the more you cheer for the the hero, totally, yeah. You know, so like when Ramsey, when Ramsey played the shit out of that role, and then Jon Snow finally got to him, right? That was so good. His little brother, and he said, Tell his little brother you have to run. And he's shooting the arrow, and he's shooting the arrow, and you know, the arrow finally kills his little brother, and then you know, he's being crushed, and then finally, because that's what people don't get. It's like the the better the villain, or you get a cheer for the hero.

SPEAKER_01 53:12

It's just the way it goes, and it's like that reality thing you said, because like that is real life, like there are there are people you fucking hate and you wish death on every day.

SPEAKER_00 53:25

I wish death on at least three people driving to work every day. Yeah, I'm not kidding. And that's why in um Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, when Dunk finally kicks the shit out of the Targaryen, he that guy played a really good villain, right? He's not a Ramsey Bolton or Joffrey, but uh, when he finally got on top of him, did you ever see? And then I'll stop. I promise I will stop after this. Okay, somebody clipped, I will send it to you. Somebody clipped the battle where uh Dunk is fighting the Targaryen in the duel, in the in the uh the the the duel of the seven, right? Yeah, the last the last episode. Well, the next last episode, right?

SPEAKER_01 54:12

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 54:13

And they put the rocky music to it. Did you see that? Did you hear that? No, they put and it that the particular rocky music was from the first Rocky when he goes to distance with Apollo Creed, and they put it to the video. I'm going to send it to you, and it came out amazing. Like if you want a video to go to the gym after that, okay. Oh, yeah, you play that video. That's that's gonna make you go to the gym. It's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 54:39

Okay, I wonder if I would think it if I would like it or if I would just be laughing because of the Rocky music.

SPEAKER_00 54:44

No, it can't no, you would think it's ridiculous, but yeah, you gotta understand that like this, you know, there was I don't know, six Rocky's, so you gotta know which Rocky it's it's it's it fits. Let's just say it fits, okay. Okay, yeah, it's phenomenal. All right, and um, and don't don't don't get mad at me if I start like just sending you fucking Game of Thrones shit.

SPEAKER_01 55:04

Oh my gosh, I was expecting reading the books. It's that serious now.

SPEAKER_00 55:11

I know. Well, you could you could there's so many YouTube videos of where you don't even have to read the books. Well, first of all, you can get the audiobook if you want. Um, but there's so many YouTube videos of people breaking it down and breaking it down detail by detail by detail. It's it's unbelievable. But I'm the first one I'm gonna send you is at Rocky. As soon as I get off of here, and then I'll I'll message Gianna for that website for you.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

Perfect.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

Oh, Harley. Okay, I'm gonna put your Instagram in the description. It is uh They Love Haley with two Vs on Instagram, and then all your links will be on Instagram where people can come and find you. Um please stay well. Um, thank you. Let's uh stay in touch. Please come back. I am definitely gonna want to have you back. You're an absolute pleasure to interview. Um, and you are uh really, you're just a lovely human being. So don't change.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 56:03

You're very welcome. All right, I'll send you that stuff as soon as we get off. I'll talk to you soon.

SPEAKER_01 56:06

Sounds good. Bye.

SPEAKER_00 56:08

All right, bye.