Disembodied Voices, The “Lady in White,” and A UFO in the Rain

AOTP EP:1 While on a trip to visit relatives in Pennsylvania, a young girl and her brother suddenly hear the disembodied sounds of children crying in the night. Years later, that same girl is frozen in fear, when the infamous "lady in white" appears to her, in the middle of the night. 
Across the country, a man is startled to see a large, triangle-shaped object, floating above his house in the middle of a rainstorm; and even more startled, when it appears again, almost one year later.

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SPEAKER_03 0:42

Welcome to the show. We have a couple of guests tonight who will be sharing their accounts of the paranormal. First up, we have Julia, who has two accounts to share. The first from when she was a young girl that involves disembodied voices. And then another some years later, when she was in her late teens, that involved the infamous Lady in White. What makes this sighting unique is where this apparition appeared to her and what it was doing when it did. Then later we'll be hearing from David, whose account is of the UFO realm, of a craft that is gonna sound very familiar to those who follow or are even mildly interested in the UFO phenomenon. What stands out about this sighting is how close to the ground this craft was and the conditions it was flying in. But before we get to them, welcome to the first episode of Accounts of the Paranormal. My name is Gino, and next to music as far back as I can remember, I have always been fascinated with UFOs and all things paranormal encrypted. And it was a sighting I had decades ago over the midnight skies of Yuma, Arizona, that took me from a believer in UFOs to a knower, undoubtedly. Ever since then, my interest in the paranormal has deepened. My desire to hear the accounts of others has grown even more. When I meet people, if I get comfortable enough with them at some point, I will ask, have you ever seen a ghost? UFO, tell me all about it, which has led me to this podcast. Or I want to provide a platform for others who have had similar or even more unbelievable experiences, come on and share what they have seen. Without fear of embarrassment or ridicule, you are in good company. When I was putting this show together and thinking about who I would have on as my very first guests, I didn't have to think too long before I thought about tonight's, who I know all too well to say the least, and have known about their accounts for many years, and I'm sure you're going to enjoy hearing them. And if you have seen something otherworldly, a ghost, UFO, or cryptid even, and you'd like to be on the show, please email show at accounts of the paranormal.com and tell me what you've seen. Or maybe you haven't, but know someone who has. Please pass on the show info to them. Links will be in the show notes. And if you're a fan of what you hear tonight, please visit our socials and like, share, subscribe, Facebook and Insta at Accounts of the Paranormal. X at AOT Parapodcast. Because X just doesn't give enough character spaces for names for some reason. So that's X at AOT Parapodcast. And you can get full episodes on our website, accounts of the Paranormal.com, and YouTube channel at Accounts of the Paranormal, where we'll have some cool visuals to go along with the audio. With all that, let's get this show started. Welcome to the show, Julia.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

Hi.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

Thanks for being on. We appreciate you joining us.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Yeah, I'm very excited to um be on your show and give my account.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

Thank you so much. You have two to share with us tonight. Um, why don't we go back to the earlier one when you were younger, the disembodied voices one, if you won't mind just telling us around about when this happened, where, and just kind of walk us into it.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

So I was about nine or ten years old, and um my family and I were going to go visit our grandparents in the town of Shermoken in Pennsylvania. And we went to our grandparents' house, and um it was one night in the middle of the night, my brother and I house was dark, and uh we start to hear well, I heard like what sounded like screaming, children screaming, and it sounded like it was right on the other side of the window of the bedroom we were in. And um there was screaming, and then a woman's voice that was trying to comfort these children and like hushing them, trying to calm them down. She was saying, Shh, it's all right, everything's all right. She said that about two times, and my brother and I just looked at each other, and just by looking at each other, it was like we were asking each other, Did you just hear that? And then we just we turn and look over to the source of these voices, and they're still happening, and we both walk over to the window. And as soon as we look out the window, there was like a curtain, okay? As soon as we looked past that curtain, the voices just vanished. They were gone. And um the woman too just there wasn't and then in the other side and in the back of this house, I need to um point out that it was just acres of just, you know, grass and maybe bushes. It was just there was no house. There was just it's like a rural part of um, you know, Pennsylvania. So there we went from hearing what sounded like people right outside our window to it was just it was just dark, it was just, you know, nothing out there but grass. And so we just we looked at each other and we walked around the house to see, you know, if there was any anyone was awake or everyone was asleep, whole house was dark, and um we just couldn't explain what and then we both heard it. We both heard the exact same thing when we retold each other what we heard, but it was on like the exact same thing. So it was just we were never able to understand, you know, what that was, but I will never forget that. It was just crazy.

SPEAKER_03 6:31

That is crazy. Once it stopped, did the voices come back at all? Or once you guys looked out the window, that was it?

SPEAKER_00 6:39

That was it. It was it was just uh gone, it was just quiet, complete silence.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

And were you guys I don't I don't remember uh if you said did this awaken you or were you guys awake and then you heard it?

SPEAKER_00 6:54

To be honest, I can't really remember. I can't remember whether we were awake or if we were sleeping, but I just know that once it started, we were both up, getting up, seeing where the source was of these voices. And um, as you can understand, after that happened, we just couldn't sleep anymore after that night.

SPEAKER_03 7:16

I know I can imagine it, especially being kids. And you said this so this house was on a large piece of land by itself. Is that what you were describing?

SPEAKER_00 7:24

Yeah, there was on either side, there was like a house, but it was like not like the houses like you know, in a city.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

Not like a regular neighborhood. They're spread out basically.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

It's not like that. It's like you you can see it at a distance, but behind the house, there's nothing for like miles. I mean, it was just acres and acres. You can't see like a house behind you.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

It's just like how close did the voices sound? Did they sound like they were just on the other side of the window? Or could you tell about how far they were?

SPEAKER_00 7:56

Like it sounded like the people were up against the window. Like they were trying to escape something. They were you can definitely feel the fear in their voices. And the fact that my brother and I both like instinctively get up, go to the window, look to the other side. I felt like I would see like people on the other side of that window. That's how close it was. And so, and he did the exact same thing. So that just shows you that he he felt that they were just as close as well. And but once we looked outside, the sound vanished, and just logically, when you hear something that close, you would expect it to be that right nearby, because if it was far, far away, it you wouldn't have heard it to that extent. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 8:52

Of course, that makes sense. Did you tell anyone like the next morning? Did you tell any of the parents what happened?

SPEAKER_00 8:58

So we did. Um, both of us did. We told our grandparents, we told our parents. Um, our parents were more supportive, like they believed that there was something that we experienced. Our grandparents, not so much. Um, they, you know, we were kids. So I do know that aside from my family, I didn't really tell people because I just didn't think it was something that um they would believe. I would only bring it up if I was in a conversation where I felt, you know, okay, we're talking about this like same topic. Someone probab someone that I'm talking to experienced something similar, then I would bring it up.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

I totally understand that. I know you were a kid, but did you know or do you know the history of that house? Was it very old?

SPEAKER_00 9:49

I do know for a fact that it was an old house just by the look of it. And I even remember the smell. It had like kind of like that old smell that houses have. But as far as history, no, I really don't.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

Not sure what might have been on that piece of land or anything else. That's understandable. You're very young. I don't expect you asking a bunch of questions like that after the fact. That's a crazy experience, um, for sure. What do you think it was? What do you think you heard?

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Um I know just by the voices that um it had to have been something that had happened with children. Um that part of it makes me sad because, you know, it just hearing the fear and the children's voices and just like they were just really trying to find a safe place. And um, but the woman's voice, I don't know if it was it made me wonder maybe it was a teacher because it was just so many children's voices. And I thought maybe it was like maybe this was like an old school like schoolhouse at one time, you know? Maybe this was like a school and and you know, a teacher trying to um comfort these children for whatever uh chaos was happening. And maybe this was just like um residual um energy of something that happened many years ago.

SPEAKER_03 11:15

You said it was a a number of kids. How do you could you make out about how many? Like was it two or three, or was it eight or nine?

SPEAKER_00 11:22

It was um that's why I compared it to like a class, because it just it was like It was multiple kids. It was multiple kids, maybe five, maybe even as many as ten. It was just a lot of screaming. Um it just sounded very chaotic. Um, and I even still r remember the anxiety that I felt, you know, just hearing all of that. And then it just stopped from so much noise to like just complete silence.

SPEAKER_03 11:51

That is a crazy account for sure. One you would definitely never forget.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Um, I will never forget that.

SPEAKER_03 11:57

Yeah, and it's interesting that your brother heard it with you. That that makes it even more uh interesting for sure.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

Yeah, and more believable, I think, that we both heard the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

Let's move forward in time to a later account that you had.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

I was in my late teens when this happened. It was um a little bit after um high school, maybe, or I was probably still in high school, but I was in Temecula, California, my um family home. I was in my bedroom and I was either laying down or sitting up, but um it was in the middle of the night, late at night. Again, everyone was asleep, and um I saw like a white aberration appear at the foot of my bed. I just remember it was just like it was just it was a female, almost like Victorian like type clothing. She was very well dressed, she was pretty. I remember that she was pretty and she was looking right at me and she was talking, but it was muted. I could see her mouth is moving, she's had wanting to converse with me, have a conversation with me. Um, and she just had a very calm, um, peaceful demeanor about her, but she looked like she was trying to like tell me something. And um but I was also scared because I've never seen anything like that before. And not understanding what I was seeing, I was like, I just remember as soon as she appeared, I I couldn't move. I was like, I I was like froze. I I was sharing a bedroom with my sister and um she was asleep in the bed and the other side of the room. Um, but even though I wanted to turn to get my sister's attention, I couldn't turn, I couldn't move anything of my body. So I'm like forced like to just look at this aberration, like talking. And um it's and then she disappears. And as soon as she disappears, I was able to move. And I I I I stood up, I shot right out of my room, I ran, I ran downstairs, I went to the couch and sat there, and I was just like, I think I even cried a little. Um, and I just was just trying to process what I just saw. And um I couldn't sleep in that room for maybe a week. I was like scared to go back up there. I didn't tell anyone in my house what happened because I just didn't think that they would like believe me. Um, and then after about a week or so, I was I felt I made the decision that I just I wanted to go back and sleep in my room again. And after thinking about it, I actually wanted to see that aberration. Because whenever someone says they've seen like a ghost or an aberration, you always think, oh, it's something that's like scary or menacing or even evil like looking, but there was she was all the contrary. She was just she was like light and she was like um nothing dark, nothing evil about her. She was just like I said, peaceful and just this calm, like, you know, feeling to her, and like she was trying to tell me something. And I felt like if she was trying to communicate something to me, I want her to communicate that to me. I actually was hoping I would see that operation again and hoping that maybe this time I could hear, you know, and just try to fight the fear, you know, if it was to happen again, the fear that I felt the first time. But she never she never appeared in my room anymore after that. She just never came back. And um, so then when I did start talking about it, you know, I talk about to like my co closest friends and um and some of my friends would say maybe because I do know that Temecula is an old town. I do know that it's an old town, and um, so I know that it's possible that where this happened, something could might have occurred in that uh vicinity. And my friends were saying something probably happened there in that uh piece of land that, you know, where your house was on, and she was probably trying to communicate something to you. And I said I thought the same thing, and I even hoped that, you know, it would come back and communicate that to me. But unfortunately, that never it never happened. But again, it's something that I will never forget. And I, in a way, feel lucky because not a lot of people experience something like that. And she was um almost like someone trying to almost seek help in a way where I thought, well, I feel kind of honored that, you know, she came and you know, out of everyone in my house, she reached out and tried to talk to me, you know. And it's almost like a feeling of honor in in a way that a soul that lived at one time is trying to communicate to the living and that that person was me, you know?

SPEAKER_03 17:27

I agree completely. I I feel that you were very lucky. I've never seen anything like that, and I I would feel the same way. I think that's really awesome how she, for whatever reason, chose you. I have a few questions. So the house. So is it a newer home or was it a home built in like the early 1900s or I would say it's a newer home, but the land, I mean, there could have been, you know, maybe a cabin or something like that there.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

It's so it's not so much the home. I look at it like something about the land. Something must have happened on that land, and um, and that that energy was from whatever happened way back because, like I said, the way she was dressed, it was like the Victorian period.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

Yeah, it's the classic uh Lady in White. So let's back up to that when this first appeared. Do you recall if you were awake, did this awaken you? Did you wake up, sense something, and then it appeared to you?

SPEAKER_00 18:27

I wanna say that because I don't I don't remember me being like awoken up, like rudely awaken. I don't remember that. So I almost feel like I was already I was like waking up, I was awake for a while. Sometimes I'm just staring at like, you know, this the wall where like my window is. I feel like I was in one of those moments where I'm just like already like awake and just kind of just you know, just kind of like, you know, zoning out and um and then I see it, you know, just appear. It's not like it woke me up. I feel like I was already awake.

SPEAKER_03 19:09

And you said she appeared at the foot of your bed. Was she standing at the foot of your bed? Was she sitting on the bed? Where exactly was she? How close was she to you?

SPEAKER_00 19:18

She was like basically she was sitting and it was at the foot of my bed. So like basically the edge, the edge of the bed. And it's not it's it it's like she just appeared from nowhere. It was just uh one second she's not there, and then boom, she's like right there.

SPEAKER_03 19:36

And for how long? How long did she appear?

SPEAKER_00 19:38

Um, it felt like a long time, but I'm pretty sure it was just like a few seconds, maybe five to ten seconds. But it just felt like, especially when I was just like frozen and I couldn't move, that just felt like an eternity.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

Did you get a feeling from her of what she was trying to convey to you? Said she was her mouth was moving, she was like she was obviously trying to speak, she was looking right at you, she was trying to speak to you. Did you get a feeling which did she seem distressed? Was she did you get a feeling of what she was trying to say?

SPEAKER_00 20:10

She had it's just so interesting to like think about how like I could even see her facial features. She had like a look of like concern on her face, like a look of concern. And so again, there was just nothing scary, nothing dark, nothing evil about her. It was just like, you know, like if you're having a conversation with someone and they're sitting right across from you and they're just talking to you, but it was like a conversation, like a serious conversation with like of concern. And that's what I was feeling from her. And that's why after thinking about it, you know, after it happened, after remembering that, that's why I felt like I wouldn't mind if she came back because it just left me curious. Um, so yeah, it it was like something that was just she was just I don't know, concern worried, concerned about, um, but not anger, not you know, no not nothing evil. It was just nothing dark.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

Yeah, that sounds like an awesome experience, actually.

SPEAKER_00 21:19

Yeah, it actually was. Um, because and you know, I'm happy it wasn't something that was um scary or, you know, evil or anything like that. It was just um if you're if if you're gonna have an experience with an entity like that, like I would say like that's the best kind to have.

SPEAKER_03 21:38

For sure. Did anyone in the house ever express seeing or hearing anything?

SPEAKER_00 21:43

No. And for some reason in that house, anything that's ever happened, it's you know, not that there was a lot of things happening, but um, it was just it seemed to always be me, you know? And um, so yeah, no, no. Nobody nobody else in and there's like five members of my family. And nobody nobody um saw her or anything of the like.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

Were you aware of of anyone ever passing away in that home? Do you know? Or did you know at the time?

SPEAKER_00 22:17

No. But now I'm interested in, you know, finding out if someone did, because then that might explain, you know, why she, you know, was trying to reach out to me.

SPEAKER_03 22:28

You said it always seemed to happen to you. Was there anything else that happened in that home to you?

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Yes. Um, shortly after my grandmother passed away, um, I was in, I stayed in my grandmother's room, the room that she used to like sleep in. And um one night when I was asleep there, I heard a voice calling me. And um the voice was calling my name. And but so clear that when I I got up, I was for sure, I was asleep. And I just remember like getting out of my bed, like going to where I I heard the voice calling my name, and it was calling my name, Julia, Julia, but with like with an urgency, like to get up right now. And so I stood up, I was stumbling out of the room, it was dark, and um I look around and everything is like dark, all the lights are off, everyone's asleep, and nobody was there. No one was there. And I was just shocked because I was like, somebody called me, someone got me out of bed and fast, and nobody's around. But again, nothing like that happened to anyone else in the house. Very interesting.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

It is, and and it's you you hear that sometimes from people. There'll be homes and it'll seem activity seems to be happening to one individual within the household and nobody else. So that's kind of a that's a very interesting uh phenomenon that it happened to you.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Yes, very interesting. I was the chosen one.

SPEAKER_03 24:04

Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah, you know, and if she uh ever comes back to you, be sure to uh come back on the show and tell us what you saw or what you heard.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

I definitely will. I will. Um and again, I'm still even after, you know, this has happened, you know, years ago, I still hope that, you know, like she comes back and I can um figure out why she came in the first place. And um it's just something that you, you know, you don't forget and even leaves you thinking, like, oh, you know, will that person will that um will that operation ever come back? Were they ever try and reach out to me again? And um how would it be different this time? And I have thought about it before. Um so and I feel like it's some unless someone has experienced something similar, um, it's hard it's not easy to talk about that with someone unless they've experienced it as well. Um because I've seen the difference of like speaking to someone who've experienced something similar, carry that conversation longer with that person as a versus someone who hasn't, and they're just like, oh, that's that's crazy, you know?

SPEAKER_03 25:20

I totally understand.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

But um, yeah, I I would never I wouldn't say it was a bad experience. Um, it was unique and um it did scare me because it I've never experienced something like that before. But I think it's a cool experience at the same time.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

100%. Thank you so much. We appreciate you coming on and sharing these accounts. We even got a little bonus one uh after the sighting in that house. That's really cool.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Yes, thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_03 25:50

Oh, you're so welcome. Thank you for being here. And again, if you have any other experiences, be sure to come on and share them with us.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

I absolutely will.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

Thank you, Julia.

SPEAKER_00 25:59

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

Next up, we have David. He'll be sharing his account of a UFO sighting he had over the skies of Corona, California. David, welcome to the show. Hello. Thanks for coming on. We're happy to have you here and sharing your account. And if you don't mind, let's get right into it.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Uh yeah, it uh it happened uh I had I guess you could say I had a close encounter. Uh it was around uh December 28th, 2014. And um I was watching television in my house. I live in a kind of a hilly community, and um that particular night it was uh the weather was pretty cloudy, the clouds were really low, and it was drizzling outside. It was not a very stable weather night. I was up late that night, it was around 4 30 in the morning. I was kind of I guess you could say I was staying up late to practice for New Year's because I knew I was gonna be up late on New Year's a couple days later, so I was pulling a late nighter, and I noticed as I was watching television this really bright light uh to my left. As I was watching television, it was the front door of the house, and there's a window above the front door, and it was a little bit brighter than normal, and it was unusual kind of a light. It wasn't a normal light, and it was very, very bright, and um it was uh hovering above a house on the hill above the house I live in, uh, because the homes are view homes, and the light was very, very low, it was just just above the house. So it kind of uh threw me off because I I've never seen it uh you know anything like that. Uh if it was a helicopter or something like that, they wouldn't come down that low. And I just it made me it made me stand up out of the chair. And when I did, to to go to the front door to take a better look at it, the whatever it was, the object started moving like it was like I don't know, maybe it's I don't know if that it's seen me and get up, or I wasn't sure. But um I decided when it started moving for whatever reason to go to the backyard of my house. Uh, I guess with a thought that it would just it was gonna head that way. I don't know why I did that. I just the thought had come to me to to go that way. It was the opposite direction of where the object was, but I went ahead and did that, and a few seconds later, um this enormous triangular-shaped object flew over uh the part of that part of it was over the house at my house, and then part of it was on the neighbor's house. And the uh it was it was a triangular-shaped, all black. It was enormous. It I've been in construction for over 30 years, and it looked like it was about uh anywhere from two to three hundred feet long, and it had three lights underneath it. It three white lights was very, very I could very clearly see that because it was so low. I got a really good look at it because of the low altitude it was. It was below the clouds, and the clouds were really low that night. And there was also this reddish, weird, eerie, glowing red light in the center of it. Uh hard to explain the the kind of red it was. It was a very unusual-looking red uh light in the center of that of the triangle. But it was a massive triangle, and uh it was flying uh very low, like I said, and and it made no sound whatsoever. And it was when it flew over the house, it it actually I got to see it traveling very slowly towards another house. And uh that's when I really got a good look at it because it it uh it was more in view. I had a more of a fuller view of it. And the house underneath it looked like a little uh toy house. It didn't it didn't even look like a house, it looked like a little model or something, and there was this massive triangular shape that looked like a building almost. Um, it was so big that it literally looked like a like if it were set on the ground, it would it would have you you would just pass it off as a black triangular-shaped building instead of a some kind of flying object, but it was a triangle. And I've I observed the craft moving very slowly, and it was heading down towards a valley. Uh and I and I watched it for a good few minutes because the visibility wasn't that great that night. It was very low visibility because of the weather, and it wasn't weather to fly in, it was actually pretty, pretty harsh weather. And I I watched as long as I could, and then I saw it just disappear into the the uh dark, murky clouds in the distance. And needless to say, I I uh I was shocked that night because I'd never seen anything like that. And I'd heard about triangles before and I'd seen them on television, but I never imagined that I'd ever see one. I actually uh at that point I I just went into the house in disbelief and I thought, well, I there's my first close encounter, and thinking that I would, you know, probably never see anything like that again. Well that that ended up not being the case because a year later, one year later to the month, on the December 14th of 2015, I had a close encounter with the same object again. Uh this time it was it was around the same time of night, uh, that particular night on December 14th of 2015. I was inside the house again watching television. It was the holiday season, and I I noticed from inside the house this bright light, because the house I live in has a lot of windows. And I could see again this same kind of white, very bright white light. But this time it was coming from the backyard and it was across the valley, a good distance away from the house, but I could clearly see the light, uh, just like I did a year before. So I I went out into the backyard and I stood there staring at the light, kind of knowing what it was, because I'd recognized the light. It was the same kind of light. Um, on this particular night in 2015, the object was very again very low to the ground. It was just just above the houses. I mean, it must have been just a few feet above the houses that it was sitting over. And um the light was very bright, and as I observed it, the light, I guess the they must have whatever was inside of it, the the the occupants inside of it, must have seen me because that white light ended up turning into this white beam of light that actually directly shined right on me. And I was a good distance away. So it was I was actually very impressed that uh that they could actually see me from that distance because I was standing in the backyard of a house. There's a lot of trees in the backyard of my house, and I was actually very surprised that that I was actually seen, and the light I've never seen anything like it, but it was like a uh almost like a flashlight beam, but it was very uh almost laser-like the way it shined on me and it lit up the back of the house pretty pretty well. And um, I was actually quite surprised that uh that they saw that whatever was inside of that craft saw me. Anyways, it I don't know, I just stared right at it, and I didn't I didn't move or anything. I just kept staring at it. The vehicle at that point, the light shut off, and it started to the vehicle started to veer off to the left a little bit, and it started to move my direction, but not exactly towards my house. It was to the home's uh uh uh to more to the right of where I was standing, and like it was making like it was leaving, and it was moving in a hurry. I must have, I don't know, I must have scared something inside of that thing, whatever was off, whatever was piloting it, because it started moving pretty quick. And that particular night in on uh December 14th of 2015, it was really clear that night. It there was unlimited visibility, it was totally clear. I could see the stars very clearly. And I went up to the side of my house and I watched it go over the houses. Again, it was enormous, it was the same configuration, it was uh uh all black. Um, it had the three white lights, one white light on each corner of the bottom of the vehicle, and then again, there was this strange red amberish color type glowing object in the center of it. It could have possibly been the propulsion system, I'm not sure, but it was a very it was much larger than the white lights, but it was uh clearly it was doing something. Um the craft when it when it was flying over the houses, it I couldn't it seemed like their the street lights, the light was glinting off the side of the of the vehicle. It was totally flat on the sides. It almost looked like the the sides of the craft was transparency is like glass because of the way the light shined off it. That's what it almost looked to me. Um it was again around the same size, anywhere from two to three hundred feet long, and it was uh the height of it, I would say, if it sat on the ground, it looked to be about anywhere from three to four stories tall, maybe 40 feet high. So it was a pretty good sized object, and it was moving really quickly this time, because again, I I must have scared something inside of it, and it was just moving. And I walked up the side of my house, I was watching it the entire time, and this craft started to go upwards like it was going up towards like it was going towards the space, and it went up it it went up at a 45-degree angle at very high speed. It was extremely high speed. And again, I could see it very clearly because the night had unlimited visibility. I could clearly see the three Y lights under it and the red uh glowing light in the center, the large red ambrush light. When it went up at 40, it went up at like 45 degrees going into space, going towards space. But the unusual thing about this was that it didn't nose up when it went upwards. It actually went up at 45 degrees while maintaining a flat level plane. It it did not nose up, it stayed flat at 45 degrees, going up at an extremely high rate of speed. That was the thing that kind of shocked me. I've never seen, I've never seen any craft move like that. Um, it had it had a high degree of maneuverability. It appeared to have a high degree of technology, and it looked like it could go into outer space. It did, and it that's exactly where it was headed. And I was able to observe it going up all the way until it just disappeared literally into space. Uh, because again, that night in uh 2015, it was unlimited visibility, and I could clearly see it go all the way up at 45 degrees, flat at a flat level plane, and uh and that was it. And that was that was the last time I ever saw it.

SPEAKER_03 37:39

So then it just went up and then as far as it could go until you couldn't see it anymore, basically, at that high rate of speed.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Yes, it it it went at that high speed and it just went off into space at that 45 degree angle. That was the last time I ever saw it again. I never I haven't had any more visitations. Um I I don't know if the vehicle that particular craft has come back again, because of course I I'm not outside every day uh at that time. I can't, I have to work for a living, but uh I happened to be out you know at the right time, right moment, and I was able to uh observe it twice, one year apart, not exactly to the day, but close. And it was something I'll never forget.

SPEAKER_03 38:25

So I guess there's no way to know that it was the same exact craft from the year prior, but it looked exactly like the one you had saw the year before. So you you believe it was do you believe it was the same one?

SPEAKER_01 38:39

I I I to me it it looked exactly the same. Now uh I guess to say that it wasn't the same one would suggest that there'd be more than one of them out there, and I wouldn't be surprised, or there certainly could be. Um but it but it was um it was the same exact everything, the same shape, the same size, uh that had the same white light in front of it. So to me, it it just seemed to be like it was the same one. I I I don't know if that was exactly the same one, but I just assumed it was because it looked exactly the same. You know, that's the only way I can put it.

SPEAKER_03 39:16

And why do you think it was there? What do you think it was doing?

SPEAKER_01 39:19

You know, that that's that's something I I could never I could never possibly answer because I don't even know what was piloting a thing. I I you know I the only thing I can say is that it um it certainly was intelligently controlled. Um the way it maneuvered, it it it uh again it it had a high degree of technology, it was very large. Uh it it clearly had some type of anti-gravity propulsion because there was no noise whatsoever. The shape of the vehicle uh didn't it didn't use its shape for any type of lift or anything. There was no visible uh control surfaces or you know, for lift, there was no visible engines or anything. It was completely uh uh clean on the outside, flat on the sides, and outside of the the the lights underneath it, that's all there was. So whatever was piloting it, it was obviously, you know, I don't know, I don't know what it could have been, but what what its reasoning was for being there in the neighborhood uh twice two times like that, and and who knows, it may have come by many times that I didn't even see it. Who knows? Uh I I really don't know. I thought about that a lot of times, but I I really don't have an answer for that. You know, I I I just don't know.

SPEAKER_03 40:42

Did it come around around the same time, one year apart? Like what time at what time at night or early morning was this?

SPEAKER_01 40:50

It it was around the same time. It was around 4:30-ish around there, between 4 15 a.m. and 4 30 a.m. Uh it was just uh different days. Uh the in 2014 it was the very latter half of December of that year. It was the 28th of December. And a year later, and on 2015, it was on the uh the 14th, I believe it was, December 14th of 2015. So it was some days off. But it's not to say, again, like I was saying, that it may not have frequented more often and and more nightly than I'd seen, because I I just happened to see it, you know, uh those particular two particular times. Not to say that the craft wasn't there more often. I just saw it those two particular times when you're apart.

SPEAKER_03 41:43

So this thing was enormous by how you're describing it. Now, did you ever hear whether the news or just talking to people locally, did you ever hear anyone mention seeing this craft? Did it did it make I mean, I just find it hard to believe that you might have been the only one to see it as large as this thing was. Granted, it was at a you know early, strange time when most people are sleeping, but did you ever hear of uh any reports of this type of craft being in that area?

SPEAKER_01 42:14

The time was actually, I mean, if you wanted to um I guess if you wanted to to be stealthy uh and and observe uh an area like it was hovering over and you didn't want to be seen, I mean, that would probably be the best time to be around.

SPEAKER_03 42:31

Oh, sure. It's a it's definitely a great time, but it's I mean, still in in Southern California, even at that time, you know, people are out and about. There's cars up and down the freeway. Did you ever hear any reports of this craft being seen?

SPEAKER_01 42:43

I no, I didn't at the time. I mean, it it it it appeared that it was pretty isolated and it was just limited to me. I because I never heard anything in the news or I didn't see any reports at that time of anybody uh witnessing the same thing. I I it looks like I might have been the the one person that just happened to be at the right place at the right time and I was able to observe it. But uh I have heard of people that have seen triangles, but I've never that particular, those two particular nights, I never heard of anything on the news at that time to indicate that anyone had seen that that object like I did.

SPEAKER_03 43:17

Yeah, no, the the object is definitely one that many people have reported seeing. I mean, the way you describe it. That one that's a phenomenon for sure. And then the UFO world, it's a definitely a popular craft that people see. It's just crazy how um uh it's something that size.

SPEAKER_01 43:33

Yeah, I've seen a lot of reports of people that have seen him in years past. Uh the triangles are not an rare, they've been seen all over the world. Um the thing about the thing about it is is that uh I got a really close look at it. I mean, I I wasn't far at all. I think probably the the the closest I was to that vehicle because it was flying so low, it couldn't have been more than a hundred feet away from me, uh, visually. Uh Which is a very close observation. I mean, I I got a very close look at it. It it was uh it was flying so low, it it really shocked me. It was it it was just above the houses.

SPEAKER_03 44:12

Yeah, that's what was very interesting when when I first heard you tell this uh to me uh a long time ago. That that's what really blew my mind is how close this thing was to the ground. You just you don't don't hear that, especially this particular craft, as large as it is.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Exactly, because it the size is what blew me away. That that blew me away more the that's the funny thing about it. The size of it actually shocked me more than uh the fact that it was floating in midair, okay, with no sound. That actually shocked me more than anything else was its size. You know, I'm in construction, I've been in it for over 30 years, so I'm a pretty darn good judge of of of you know length and distance and what have you. But I could also I I'm also a pretty good judge of weight, you know. I mean, I could look at it and go, yeah, that's gotta weigh so many tons. That thing has had to weigh millions of pounds, in my opinion. I mean, because you I know uh like a modern A380 airline or an Airbus A380, they weigh about a million pounds uh on the runway for ready for takeoff, fueled and ready to go. So this object that I saw had to have weighed several million pounds just by its size. So whatever was powering this thing, it was beyond advanced. I mean, it was a high degree of technology to uh allow something that size to levitate off the ground with no noise. Uh the maneuverability that it had was seemed to be unlimited. It could maneuver in any direction on its axis, any any way it wanted. Just the way it the last time I saw the object take off up into space, the fact that it was able to go up without nosing up and and was able to maintain a flat level plane while going up at a 45 degree, I've never seen anything move like that. So this vehicle was truly a marvel of engineering, whatever made it, it was it was impressive. And and its size is something that shocked me again more than anything I've ever seen. I've never seen anything that large in the sky, you know, uh, other than uh, you know, uh the sun in in the distance, you know, and the those are understandably large, but this was a this was a a machine, you know, something that was made by somebody. And uh it was extremely massive. I just can't say I can't stress enough the size of the object.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

Yeah, that's just uh an incredible size and uh incredible technology that uh would make something move like that and just float like that. It's it's it's absolutely unreal. What do you what do you think you saw? What do you think they were?

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Well, I I've I've s I've actually because of the sightings that I had, I actually looked into uh triangular sightings and I learned a lot about about uh about them and about what people think they are. And and there's a lot of um a lot of people that think that they're made by believe it or not, the American government. And um I don't know that I think that that's probably a good possibility um but I don't know. The only my only thought is is that the way the craft moved, it looked like it could have been piloted by people. Um it moved in a very linear way, like uh like somebody that would operate a helicopter. It moved in a controlled way. It moved in a I I don't know if I if that's this makes sense, but it moved in a human way. Um I've seen I've seen footage of of UFOs that were considered extraterrestrial and they they don't move around the way that object did. They they move around more erratically. Um this object moved more steady. It almost seemed like it was under human control. I don't know if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

That's interesting for sure. It's a theory, anyways. I think a lot of people would go straight to the you know otherworldly UFO thing, but uh that is very interesting to hear someone say that it could be of you know worldly of this earth.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

Yeah, I just I it's just a hunch after uh you know watching a lot of uh you know videos and testimony about them, and then uh I guess you could say people that have you know decided to come out and and you know, hiding their appearance, of course, and their voice saying that they belonged to to us, and I just feel like it could. The way it moved, um, I just I don't know, call it a hunch.

SPEAKER_03 48:51

Yeah, that's that's uh no, it's a crazy uh I guess anything is possible. I I I certainly don't know what they are, and that's uh as good as guess uh as any uh uh I suppose. Very interesting. And again, that the fact that you saw them or it a year apart, uh that makes it really interesting on why almost the same place, the same area, uh one year apart the way that you saw it. That's uh just uh an interesting encounter, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_01 49:18

Yeah, it it's the strangest encounter that I've ever had in my life, and um I hope I hope that maybe someday again I'll get to see it again. I don't know. You know, if I do, I'll I'll I'll definitely be reaching out to you if I do.

SPEAKER_03 49:31

Yeah, if you do, uh definitely we'll have you back on the show, and then you can tell us uh what you saw that time around. Thanks for coming on. We appreciate you being here. Come back again.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

I certainly will. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you, David. Bye bye.

SPEAKER_03 49:53

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