HAUNTED Creator: Tony Allen

AOTP EP:7 Independent micro TV/movie network owner and producer, Tony Allen, is here to discuss his network's beginnings and latest project, Haunted, where he and two other rookie ghost hunters search for proof of the afterlife. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:43

Welcome to the show. Independent Micro TV Movie Network owner and producer Tony Allen is here to discuss the history and motivation behind his network and his latest project, Haunted, where he and two other rookie ghost hunters search for proof of the afterlife. Tony, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_02 1:09

Hi there, thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_01 1:11

Thank you for being here. I'm happy to have you here. You are the man from the uh indie micro TV slash movie network at cheap AF Videos. And you have a project you're working on with episodes that just came out. The first one was August, August 31st, the second uh September 30th. Haunted. And uh I want to talk about that. I've watched both episodes and I am a fan. It's super cool. I love what you're doing. Uh tell me about that. But before you get into that, uh tell me how this started for you. What brought you to Haunted?

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Well, it's a pretty crazy story. It's kind of long. I'll try to see how short I can keep it. But thank you very much again for having me on here. Your platform is super cool. Love what you're doing. So very happy to be here.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02 1:55

You're absolutely welcome. Every I I'm a musician. I've been working on that pretty much my whole life. I started uh I released my first album in 2018. And then in 2020, I was approached by uh an ex-coworker that I used to know who struck up an odd partnership with Puppet the Psycho Dwarf. I'm not sure if anyone or yourself is familiar with him. He was uh one a dwarf that everyone knows, you know his face, you just don't know the name. He was in Jackass 3D, he was the original uh half pint brawlers if you mention if you remember the midget wrestling back in the days. He was in a bunch of stuff. Uh he did uh the stunt work for uh the guy who played in the Leprechaun. He was one of the guys who fell down the well, he was an American Horror Story, a bunch of stuff. He did a whole bunch of TV shows and movies, and so he started uh this comedy show on a up-and-coming network, and I was asked to do the theme music for it. So this was in um July of 2020, and so I loved what he was doing so much. He was just had he was he because he started doing stand-up comedy, and so he was bringing on a bunch of independent, no-name comedians and trying to help them, you know, using his name to bring them up and to take them around and go on tours and and try to do a comedy show. Everything was shut down, so it was called the Lockdown Living Room Comedy Show, and it was a whole thing where it was like an hour or of comedy of a bunch of different comedians, and they would just do broadcasts from like their home in front of their cell phone. And I loved the idea. I love stand-up comedy growing up, and so I was very excited to have the opportunity. I did the theme music, and then I loved what the guy was doing so much that I asked if I could audition to be on the show, and he allowed me to do my own uh comedy set auditions. So I wrote a 10-minute set, I performed it, he loved it and had me on the show. And so for a few episodes, we were going strong, going great, and dwarves, as you know, I'm this is just they have a health condition, as everyone knows. You know, it's I don't, I'm not gonna say it's a disability by any means, but it is a health condition, and so they have health problems, and unfortunately, the man died of a heart attack it before his 52nd birthday, shortly after I joined the show, and so everything was kind of up in the air. Uh uh he was very supportive of me, so I could not let the show die. So I continued on the show. I did not like the owner of the network. I saw trouble coming, meaning that, and I also at the same time, I understand that this guy's a celebrity and he dies. Who's gonna care once the celebrity guy, the celebrity and the spokesperson and the in the face of the show dies? I totally understand that. So I saw the cancellation coming on top of we just did we were disagreeing on big things, and I just our personalities just didn't match or didn't mesh. So I saw it all coming and said, let's take the show and make our own network, and that was in um the fall, September of 2022. So we launched Cheap AF Videos in September of 2022 with the lockdown living room comedy show that I kept going, and we've been doing it ever since. And then along the way, we have struck up partnerships with other independent creators who have brought us shows to our attention that we have liked and we've, you know, hey, cool project, yeah, I'll host it, let's do it. And so it's a place where independent creators can post their stuff with the hopes of getting paid. And that's kind of how Haunted happened. We're always looking for new content, we're always looking for new projects. And we just we just released and we just learned over the weekend an award-winning documentary in June uh called Clerk, The Story of Lewis Spindley Day, and he is a local celebrity out of Alton, Illinois, which is right next to where we are. We are out of Wood River, and Alton is literally five minutes away. And if anyone knows, Alton is considered, if not the most, but one of the most haunted places in the entire world, let alone the country. It is super well known, super famous. And so we just kind of saw an opportunity there. We were doing very well with the with the local uh documentary about the local hero, because he really is a community hero that we did. And so I saw an opportunity and said, hey, why not? You know, paranormal is a huge, huge market. Um, while I have been a researcher for 15 years, I researched into the occult, so I already have all my answers. I believe in that stuff 100%. It's all there. I'm not looking for proof for myself, just like Susie and Zach, who is on the show, because I have shared all my research with them. And so we've all kind of had our eyes opened, and so we're not really looking for ourselves, but we're looking for in case anyone is interested, and we just figure what could it hurt to at least explore the opportunity because we really are in one of the biggest paranormal hotspots that there could be, and that's how haunted has uh how it was born.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

You mentioned your your history or your previous work with a comedy show, and then you did the stand-up, and it's funny you mentioned that because I think in one of our I don't know if it was uh email or a text how I mentioned I appreciated your your sense of humor. So now it totally makes sense that that that's something you had uh done previously.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

I really appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

What have you guys experienced personally yourself? Have you have you had any kind of paranormal experiences in the past that kind of helped drive you towards your research world?

SPEAKER_02 8:19

Uh absolutely. Well, my research came from whenever I started. It was it wasn't because of this. It was it was uh because of the direction I saw the world heading in. And so I created a YouTube channel and have been basically documenting um uh this is not a religious thing in any way, shape, or form. It's just I have been what I've considered, I documenting, I am documenting the end times. That's what I've that's how I feel. Uh, I made several prophecies. I I this is why I'm not I'm I hope this isn't too weird, but it's I wrote songs and I made video after video after video screaming about 2020 and what I saw coming. And so all of this was different why I've been researching the occult for the past 15 years. But before that, 25 years ago, I did do a paranormal investigation, and I which wouldn't, again, you know, I'm not telling anybody what to do or how to live their life, but I did it using a Ouija or anybody who's particular about the pronunciation Ouija board, which those things are absolutely they are real, they they can bring in things that you don't want to bring in or don't want to have attached to you. And I did one of those in a friend's house in Carlinville, which is where the first episode of Haunted takes place, and I absolutely proved to myself 100% and I think the people my friends that were there, that there absolutely is another side because I made contact with a supposedly a boy who died of polio that lived in that house and in my friend's house. The reason why we were doing a paranormal investigation in my friend's house is because they had all sorts of experiences. They had two little girls, one was like two, and one was like six or seven, and they, you know, nothing scary, nothing threatening. You know, we hear footsteps, we've heard kids giggling, I've talked to them. Two younger girls, two sweet of girls. I love those girls growing up. Nobody was making up anything, none of that stuff was, you know, was fabricated. And there were enough stories between the adults in the house, the two friends of mine that were the full-grown adults, and the two young daughters that lived there, that after several stories of, you know, being over there for a year, it's like, okay, let's take a look, because I've always had an interest. And so I went over there with an old Ouija board that my mom, this was 25 years ago, so she was in her late 40s and she had that thing when she was a teenager. So we're talking about an OG original Ouija board. And I took that thing over there and we took some pictures and we absolutely did the Ouija Ouija board. My friend, it was me and a friend. It was uh it was the the wife of my friend who lived there. And so, and I can tell you this right now again, not to encourage anybody, but that's the best way to get those things to work is you have a female and a male, you have the masculine and the feminine energy because you put those two together and you're gonna connect like like you're supposed to. But within, I don't know, 20 minutes, I had all the proof I needed. So I never really went back to you know, investigation or inve and not I wasn't scared, it didn't, and I'm not trying to sound tougher and then get it didn't scare me. I just I found the answers. You know, we I grew up with that Ouija board in my house, and well, my because it was my mom, so we it we use it a bunch of times, never had any kind of experience like that. I mean lots of times, probably 10, 15 times. So I always was curious and I always thought it worked. We could just never get it to work, and then took it to my friend's house and bam, got all the proof I needed, and then just kind of left it there ever since.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

That is something that I've just always stayed away from, never really had an interest in even touching one of those Ouija boards, um, just because of what you mentioned, it can you know what it can possibly open up or bring in. I just have zero interest in that myself. Yeah. Crazy that you kind of grew up in a home that where one was used so much and um had didn't have any experiences or anything negative come from that.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

My dad was such a close-minded skeptic that I really think his energy and perception was really able to just keep everything at bay. And so everything mainly just kind of happened to me, and so you know, he could explain everything away. He even went on one of the Alton haunted Alton tours and wasn't moved by anything, wasn't even, you know, even remotely open-minded. Everything had an explanation, all of that stuff. So I don't know if that had anything to do with it, but I think so. But I and here's the thing, we have found out in doing this paranormal show and kind of looking into Ed Lorraine Warren that that was one of the first things that they did seem to want to ask to anybody who came to them looking for assistance, that they asked, have you guys been messing with a you know with a Ouija board in your house? And so there's something to it, you know, they wouldn't be asking that question right out the gates, or or at least early on, from what I understand, if there wasn't anything to it.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

And what do you say to the skeptics who who claim that those Ouija boards aren't real and it's it's all in your mind? And you know, I I I've actually seen that where they do some uh test groups with people who are using it and then it works, and then they do another test group, people they they blindfold them, and then the little planchet is all over the place, and they're like, Oh, see, that's like we said, just this is fake, it doesn't work. What do you say to that?

SPEAKER_02 14:02

That the spiritual world will show itself when it wants to. So if you are really interested, see, like that's the thing is that there are people like my dad, right? Completely closed-minded, but the thing is, is their mind is made up, so you could have had a spiritual entity show itself in front of him to where everybody saw it, and he's still gonna say no. It's just the way that they're closed off, and the spiritual world will show itself when it wants to, and if and to who it wants to, as Susie just said. And so if you want to know the truth, if you really are 100% interested and you want to know if there's another side, you just keep asking, you keep looking, you keep searching, and it will be shown to you. My dad never cared, he already had his mind made up before any kind of anything was shown in front of him. So that's my response to that.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Well, if uh your dad was responsible for keeping things away or keeping things out, I'm gonna look at that as a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

No argument here, absolutely. The thing is, is this it's just that it's a dark there what enough light there, I don't think, to really attract much to us other than I mean, it was I don't know, that's a tough, that's a really tough situation to really kind of analyze and get into. But yeah, I mean, hey, I'll I and I also know just in my searchings and and research that me and and anyone around me is definitely very high, highly protected by the other side as well. And I know all this stuff sounds wacky to anybody who doesn't believe these things, but yeah, so I I really think too that with a a closed-off heart that also keeps a lot of things away because of if you've got this overbearing, there's nothing there, you know, force, I think it can also have, like you said, it could have a beneficial effect.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

Sure, a hundred percent. And uh you had mentioned Susie, she's there. Um, just for anyone listening, that is uh uh Mr. Tony's uh wife, uh Susie. She's also uh on uh the show Haunted with Tony, so she's there alongside him today. And uh speaking of haunted, let's talk about uh your first couple episodes that have come out, uh if you don't mind, just kind of go over the first episode, where you guys went, what you were looking for, and then into episode two.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Honestly, Carlinville, the first episode was was almost, I don't want to say a mistake, but it wasn't meant to really be because as I said, we saw Alton as the big um the big opportunity, and we just we tried some spots and we weren't able to really make it work. Uh, one of them in particular is known as the Mineral Springs Hotel. It's a very paranormal hotspot, but it was recently within like the last couple years, uh came under new management, and so the the overnight paranormal investigations were no longer allowed. Um there's another one that we tried, the McPike Mansion, which is very super huge popular, very well known. There's they've even uh Ghost Adventures or Ghost Hunters, one of those cable uh paranormal shows even went out there. Uh we tried to do that, and we still will probably try that, uh, but we weren't able to get that lined out like or lined up like we wanted to. So some of our prime spots kind of fell through, and then I don't really I guess it was probably my mom that just kind of brought it up, and that's how the Carlinville stuff came up because I found out later that see, I grew up in Carlinville, 22 years of my life were spent there, and because this paranormal stuff, as I said, is a huge market, there's a huge interest for it. Whenever we started talking about doing the show, a lot of our friends and family started getting involved and talking about things and all stuff kind of came out, and all of a sudden, the next thing I know, my hometown of Carlinville seems to be a big hot spot as Alton. And um, we find this. My sister had this book that's called Haunted Carlinville that has all of this insane history that we found, so we got a copy of this book ourselves, and it just all this stuff was so insane. It was like, why don't we just go there? And not only that, the cannonball jail that you have seen in the episode that we went through, it's all self-guided. Now, it'd be nice if we could have done an overnight, but we're finding that to be difficult to find the overnight stuff to be allowed to do that. So also, you know, I haven't done an investigation in 25 years, 25 years. I told you the story that, you know, I got my uh experience in my proof, and so I put it away. And so I hadn't really I hadn't messed with any of that stuff other than just researching. I'm not out looking at, you know, I'm not using any kind of EMF detectors, I'm not looking for any of that stuff that way. You know, Susie's never done any of that stuff, Zach's never done any of that stuff. So we all had we all like the proximity, we all see the opportunity, so we figure, well, why don't we just we'll go try Carlinville, we'll go test out our equipment. And then, you know, my dad just died in in our house, my mom's old house, or my well, she's moving now, but my mom's house where you know we all lived, uh, he died in the bathroom 13 months prior. So, and she was okay with us doing an investigation, so we figure why not just go try and test out an equipment and an overnight investigation where we know we won't have any pushback from anybody. And the cannonball jail was freely accessible until about five o'clock in the afternoon, and so we figure why not? And also, um, if you don't see that's why I was saying about this stuff in Carlinville, this stuff that you see covered in that episode of our show, you are not going to find on the internet. If you do not know these people's names or the victims or the perpetrators, you are not going to find this stuff. This stuff is very well buried. You will not find videos on YouTube covering any of this stuff at all. So we saw an opportunity. I was completely fascinated and completely shocked to find out that I hadn't heard of half the stories that had taken place. And so we just were very excited, and then after that, that led to the Alton Cemetery because that was also a publicly accessible place that didn't have any real restrictions other than you can't go past five o'clock at night. And so um also Alton, again, hugely haunted in that cemetery, all sorts of haunted stories surrounding that. And so that's where after Carlinville, we went there, and now we may go back to Carlinville potentially, but that's where that all came from and how we ended up in Carlinville, and then in Alton.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Yeah, in episode two, without giving too much away, Susie took some photos, correct? Um, she was taking the the photos and she caught some pretty interesting stuff. Have you uh looked any further into that? Or what are your thoughts about what you guys uh captured on those photos?

SPEAKER_02 21:14

Well, we you know, um honestly, Zach is probably the one who's the most skeptical. Um he he's not saying no, but he's also not like I'm not sure if I really see what you guys see, you know, as you do editing, and I am the one just like you, uh I'm editing, filming the stuffs and doing all that stuff as well. So I have spent a lot of time looking at those pictures in the editing process, and I absolutely think that there is something there. You know, maybe the one, if you remember, we won't, like you said, we won't give too much away. But the one next to the one with excuse me, at the mausoleum with the little anomaly. On the actual mausoleum may just be the environment. And maybe the the mists or that we saw may just be the environment. But the one that we say looks like an eyeball looking at you, I don't that our friend with the photography expertise says, I'm not sure if I see the eyeball, but whatever that that is, there is definitely some kind of anomaly there. It's not normal. The friend with the expertise, the photography decades of photography expertise. Like it's not refraction, it's not anything, it's not a camera malfunction, she's even said. So I absolutely think the more I I look at that one, there's definitely something there.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Yeah, it's definitely strange, that's for sure. Were there multiple photos taken uh at that that same moment where you have like say maybe four or five photos in the same of the same object, and then there's nothing, and then the one photo that does have that captured, is that what Susie uh does at that moment?

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Absolutely. Yeah, she takes we um we are out there for probably no more than 45 minutes, I think both times is probably pretty accurate and even probably a shorter time in the cemetery. And we're talking, I think the final count on both of them was near 200 pictures. So she is out there snapping away multiple times all in a row, and that's what kind of made one, and I don't mind saying this, I don't feel like it's giving away too much because you still want to see it. You know, that's why I do think the one with the mist or the smoke is kind of interesting because you've got those pictures right next, we like several, and I put two of them right next to each other, and it's still there, it's still in the exact same spot, and so that makes it a little bit more interesting to me. But you betcha, she has taken multiple pictures at the same time, and and it's not showing up, but just in the handful that you see.

SPEAKER_01 23:56

Yeah, I agree with the one with the mist. That is really interesting. How yeah, I love how you represented that to kind of back up your claim and what you found.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

And that's the thing, is that you know, we we we believe ourselves, and I just want to add to that none of that was visible to the naked eye. So it's not like I was like, oh, look at this, I'm gonna catch a picture of this. I didn't see any of that until we reviewed all of the pictures at the end. So there was nothing that I specifically said I want to take a picture of. It just caught.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Yeah, 100%. I I understand that.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

Yeah, and we're not reaching, you know, like I said, I'm not looking to convince anybody or even myself. And so there's there's a lot of stuff out there that that you know, it's like, nah, we just that's what the funny thing is, and I think that the two episodes really complement themselves really well because you're talking about you go to Carlinville and you take around the same amount of pictures, 200. And I mean that's what kind of blew our mind is that we went through 200 pictures and there wasn't even one questionable thing there, you know. So we go to Alton and you take these and you we find what we find. And I'm looking to be as level-headed as it can be, and so I just think it's real interesting that out of really 400 pictures, probably in two locations, we got what we got. And I just think that kind of lends a little bit more to it.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

It totally does, absolutely. And and again, they're very interesting. And uh I think when people go and watch the episode, uh they're gonna definitely find it interesting as well. What can we look forward to to like episode three and beyond? Is there anywhere particular you guys have um booked or planning on going or want to go to to investigate?

SPEAKER_02 25:37

Sure. Uh, and by the way, I just thank you. We all appreciate all three of us just thank you very much for watching and your feedback, and we really appreciate just thanks for this opportunity and just thanks for the time for this and for watching the episodes.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

You're very welcome. Thank you. And I appreciate you being here.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Happy to be here. Uh honestly, I've really been at this for about five years with real no-break in between. And but really since March, I mean, we've released an episode because we're still doing the lockdown show. So we released an episode of lockdown. We started doing that documentary in March. We've put together these two episodes, so we've been doing a lot the last seven months. So I think we're gonna kind of take a break and maybe not do an episode for a little while. We're not really sure because it really that's it's been difficult with the schedules, getting the schedules to work, and because people really do want to see the overnight stuff, and we get that, and that's a tough thing, A, to find places to do that, and B to make it work. So we're we're probably gonna take a little break between now and the next episode. But yes, to answer your question, what's really funny is that our intention is to go back to the Loomis house, which was in the first episode uh of Haunted, the Carlinville episode. And why that's funny is that they used to give tours in Carlinville, they used to have a haunted tour, and I guess after COVID, I think COVID knocked it out, and so there hasn't been any tours as far as my mom, my mom still lives there. My mom's lived there her whole life, and you know, she's got her finger on the pulse of that town. And as far as she knows, and anybody else knows, there haven't been any tours in that place in five years. Well, we filmed that episode. I'm standing in front of that Loomis house, and wouldn't you know it, right after we released that episode, we find out that they are now that that Loomis house has been bought by new people under new management, and now they have opened it up. So I am very interested in going there and seeing if we can't line up some kind of paranormal investigation because once again, that is something there has been nobody that's done that. There isn't been anything that's been done there in years and years, at the very least, because I mean, as far as I know, they were just tours, they were not investigations, so no one has investigated that Loomis house in years and years and years. So I am pretty excited to hopefully try to line that up, and then um the next thing would probably be the McPyke Mansion again to try to go ahead and set that up because Susie and I did that a few years ago, and it really is a pretty interesting experience. So Zach wants to experience it as well, and that will probably be the next one because that one you can book an overnight thing and do, so there's that as well. And we also have uh a friend who has they claim a haunted house in Springfield, Illinois, so we may get to that one. So to answer your question, would be the Loomis House in Carlinville, which hasn't been done in years, the McPyke Mansion in Alton, which is a very hot spot and popular, a paranormal hot spot, and then a personal residence in Springfield, Illinois.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

That is so cool. Uh you're talking about doing like you know overnight investigations, and I get all excited. I wish I lived closer to Illinois so I could kind of go and carry your bags for you or something. Yeah, just to just to be a part of that. That would be so cool.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

We would love the help because we could use every hand that we can get. Because I mean it's just the three of us and it's tough. So we would love any help we could get.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

Oh, I totally get it. And I totally understand the busy thing. You know, I'm like you, I'm a one-man show here. I know I I do this whole podcast, the pre the you know, the booking, the guests, and the the editing, the post. You know, my wife, you know, and I got three boys. Oh my. We have a two-year-old and we have a seven month old. I have a full-time job, I have a commute every day. I totally get busy. So um I understand if it takes a while for you guys to get to your next episode. But yeah, in the meantime, I will be waiting anxiously for that and I look forward to it. If there's anything else you want to mention or or or talk about, if you want to tell people where they can find you, your show, and what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

CheapAf videos.com. Just come find us there. And if anyone has any ideas, you know, just let us know. And we we love to we have an open mind. Yeah, and we're we're we're open to working with anybody who's got a good creative drive. And hey, and thank you. Like that good for you too, Gino. Like, that's awesome that you know you've got that busy, crazy life, because I can't imagine how you juggle with all the kids and stuff. But hey, good for you, man, for for doing this and making the time to be creative because this is really cool. So that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

Yeah, thanks again. I appreciate you coming on and and talking about the show. And you know, in the future, when you guys uh do get some uh the next episode down or something, if you want to, you know, come talk about what you found, or if you're a few episodes in and you want to come on back on the show and talk about it, you know how to reach me.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Yeah, I absolutely we'd love to. And can I make one last little note real fast that I did not um I didn't mention on the first Carlinville episode? I never really found or felt like I found the right spot for it. Of course. This is so like I told you, you know, I didn't know half this like these stories in Carlinville and all this crazy stuff that happened. So a lot of the details were no, I didn't know anything about them. And I'm a huge horror nerd. I don't know if you are, but I'm sure you as well as everybody is familiar with the Halloween movie franchise, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

Okay. So this is a really fun detail that I learned in learning all this these hauntings and ghost stories in Carlinville. So Carlinville, you know, in Illinois, like the movie Halloween in Illinois, you know, Haddonfield, same small town, Illinois. And then in the movie, of course, you have Michael Myers, the bad guy, who is being chased by Loomis, you know, Dr. Loomis, his therapist. And if you read in these details, this is I find it to be extremely funny that this Loomis house was built by this guy named Thaddeus Loomis, who is this big fancy judge that had all this money that ordered this courthouse to be built, and then this hotel that's haunted. But we're in Illinois, it's ordered to be built by a guy named Loomis, and the dude who actually built it and put it together was named E. E. Myers. So you have Myers building this stuff ordered by this Loomis guy all in this small town of Illinois. That's just a very fun, interesting little trivia thing. I did not realize, and I just I wanted, I I even said it in the episode, but for whatever reason, I just felt like I don't know why either. I was like, I just don't know if it fits, but I just every time I think about that, I just think that's amazing. We got Myers and Loomis in a small town, Illinois.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

That is crazy. And you you started talking about Halloween and where it was, you know, Illinois. And I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, no, it was filmed here in Pasadena, real close to me. That's where it takes place.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

It's funny when they do that stuff because then they they show like I think it was a nightmare in Elm Street. It's supposed to be in uh in uh Indiana, I think Springwood, Indiana, or what it's somewhere in the Midwest. I'm pretty sure it's Indiana, and then you know what is it? Heather Langencamp and Johnny Depp are walking on some bridge and there's a big palm bunch of palm trees right behind them, you know.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

Yeah, I think I think even in Halloween, you can if you look in the the background of the some of the shots, you're gonna see the palm trees as well. It's like it's pretty funny. Yeah, totally Pasadena. I think in one of the documentaries, they they talked about how they they shipped in some like leaves from Illinois or something and scattered them on the grass or of the of the homes just to make it look like it was from there.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

I think you're right. I think I've heard that.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Yeah, yeah, because the leaves, those leaves are are not, I think they're foreign to you know Southern California. So literally just kind of spread them out. It's it's pretty funny. But yeah, no, total classic. I love those movies.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

This has been great, Gino. Thanks a lot for having us.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

I appreciate that, Tony. Thank you so much. And again, thank you, uh Susie as well, guys, for for being here today and and talking about your show and keep in touch.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

Absolutely. Thank you again for having us on here. Thank you very much. It was been a lot of fun, and we had a great time. And I would like to mention the band Con Canon. They are an amazing local band out of Moberly, Missouri. It's a trio of teenagers, 15, 16, and 19, and they play awesome original hard rock. I mean, they are some of the most talented young musicians you'll come across. They even just played the legendary Whiskey Agogo venue out in Los Angeles. And if no one's familiar with that venue that listens here, uh that is a venue that anyone from Jimi Hendrix to Soundgarden has played. And I hear that Con Cannon absolutely crushed it. So I'm a big fan of their music, been listening for a while. I looked them up on social media and I reached out to see if they would be cool with us featuring their music on the show. They were happy to accommodate, so we are very appreciative for them to lend us their music, and you can catch them on the first two episodes of Haunted, and you can catch their new album streaming anywhere you stream music. It's called Asthenia, and look them up on social media, they're everywhere. Concan.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

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