Disembodied Voices and the Creature Outside My Window

AOTP EP:12 Tonight, I speak with Paul, who comes to us from Florida, and is the sibling of episode 1 guest, that together, experienced hearing disembodied voices. But tonight, Paul touches on that first encounter, describing a creature peeking in through a window that only he witnessed, moments after their experience.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:42

Welcome to the show. Tonight I speak with Paul, who comes to us from Florida and is the sibling of episode one guest that together experienced hearing disembodied voices. But tonight, Paul touches on that first encounter, describing a creature peeking in through a window that only he witnessed moments after their experience. Paul, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_02 1:10

Hi, I'm glad to be on your show, Gino.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

Thanks so much for being here. This is a really cool episode as you are my year-end guest. So thanks for being here at this time of the year.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

It's good to know.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Yeah, most people right now are busy with the holidays and shopping and Christmas and everything. So I'm glad to have you join me for this special year-end episode. And that's also cool because you are actually the sibling from guest one for the disembodied voices Lady in White episode. And what's really cool about that is there was a little more to that and it involved you in something that you saw correctly after that initial uh sighting or sounds, I should say. And it's very interesting too, and it ties well into that. So I'm excited to have you here to talk about that and what you experienced at the tail end of that experience. So if you don't mind, take us back. Uh tell the story about what you experienced.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

I would be glad to, and I really appreciate you being able to hear my part. And of course, um this happened, I believe, was either 1990, 1991. Don't quote me on that, but I do recall that it was a summer visit uh to our grandparents' house, and which I know my sister mentioned Schmoke in Pennsylvania, but it's actually was in Herndon, but not far from where that was located. Uh so we're in Herndon, Pennsylvania. It's a very small town. Um it was really small. I would say it's I kid you not, it's basically in the middle of nowhere. Um perfect scene for a horror movie. A bit, you know, not I mean, it has its nice views, but at the same time, it is, like I said, quite we would say it's it's really in the middle of nowhere. The houses are there are really separated from one another. And so we did visit our grandparents during that time, and they they lived in a small house. Uh, I would say it was built maybe in the 1940s, 1950s, a one-story home, very small. I would say it almost appeared like a mobile home, very small place. And so, yeah, we did stay there. The area itself, like I mentioned earlier, middle nowhere, houses are there, but really far apart from each other. And the weird thing is that the funny thing, well, like I'd like to mention is that the our neighbors in the area or their neighbors didn't really have many kids, if any. It's mostly maybe elderly people. You know, I didn't really see many children at all, maybe just one or two. Um, but that's the reason why I mentioned that to you about the children part of the of this. Um, so what happened is as my sister mentioned to you and to the listeners of what she heard. Uh, so it was one evening while we were staying out there in Herndon, Pennsylvania. Here's the thing, I didn't mention this, that being at the small house is really small. We didn't have enough rooms to be able to, you know, provide lodging for all of our family members. I was with my sister, my little sister, my mother, and of course my grandma and my grandfather. So basically, this means that I had to share the same room with my sister Julia um that evening. So we both were, I guess we were both not able to sleep very well. We had a little bit of a bout of insomnia. We were basically our eyes were open. And I believe she mentioned, I remember she did mention about that um around maybe one or two o'clock in the morning. Um, don't quote me on a time frame. It was such a long time ago. I do remember hearing noises. We heard noises outside the window. Um, and we were able to hear from the sound of it like children crying, children that seemed upset over something. Um, you could feel that uh something was going on. And as I mentioned earlier, there's not many homes in the area where we were staying, and they're mostly really separated, but we're yet we were able to hear the sounds of children. Okay, like, you know, like crying, being upset. And then I remember not long after hearing the children cry or um, I wouldn't say much of screaming, but a little bit of well, maybe a tiny bit of screaming. Again, it was a long time ago, Gino. But we did hear children. We heard what it seemed to be an older lady trying to console the children. She was telling them to relax, it's gonna be okay. Her and I, my sister and I heard that, and we were like looking at each other, like, what is going on? You know, um, we knew immediately something was not right. Um, we both decided, you know what? My sister needed to go, I guess, to she needed to get some water. She hadn't need to head to the kitchen. I needed to go to the restroom. So uh we both decided, let's leave the room and just go to our, you know, where we need to go and then come back to bed and try to go to sleep if we could. So then I remember um when you leave the room, there's a hallway. We saw a small hallway. She had to make a left turn to get to the kitchen. I was able just to go across the hallway to see that where the bathroom door is. But I remember as I was walking across the hallway to get to the restroom, I heard like a noise or a sound that was coming from the window on my left side there to the den. There was uh the den there that had like a window, I believe. I heard a noise there. And something told me to go try to investigate or see what noise that was or where it's coming from. So I um decided to not go to the restroom. I decided to go make a left in the hallway and head to the room, to the den to see what maybe where the noise was coming from. And I remember as I headed to the den area, I looked at the window and um it looks like I was able to see what caused the commotion with these kids. I remember looking out the window, not out the window, I'm sorry, it was from a distance where I was. I saw the window from afar. I it appeared to be a humanoid figure looking through the window. That definitely scared me. It gave me a jolt. But I remember, Gino, as I looked at the window and I looked at that at this figure, um, I remember looking at it, and there was something not quite right about this figure that I saw out the window. And looking, it was looking, it appeared to me like it was looking right through the window and it was trying to investigate or something. And as I looked at it, I kid you or not, Gino, it looked there was something very like I didn't feel like I was staring at a human being. Let's put it this way, I felt that it was um a non-human, a non-human figure. It appeared to be, I would say, almost reptilian in nature. Okay. Um I remember looking at it, it gave me such a fright that I remembered I fell back. I fell back, and I had this intense fear. Um one thing I did not mention, our grandparents, I remember, especially my grandfather, he's not the friendliest guy in the world. He he was um a bit of um of a stern, a really stern character. I don't know if you remember the show or the movie Beauty and the Beast, where the beast has his character. I'm sure he's good hearted, but he has a very uh tough character that intimidates anyone. Well, let's put it this way: my grandfather, I was a bit fearful of him, but let me tell you this when I looked out the window and I saw that figure, that humanoid figure, it gave me such a fright that, as I mentioned earlier, I fell, I got straight up, I got up from the floor, I screamed, and I ran the opposite direction to get to the room where my grandparents were staying in. I was so afraid that I I know my sister saw me screaming, screaming my head off. She followed me into the room where my grandparents were. I jumped onto the bed next to my grandfather, I gave him a hug. And mind you, I was uh had to have been maybe nine, ten years old, you know. I I hugged this guy and he looked at me like, what's going on? You know, he he he got upset and I explained to him what I saw. Um he didn't, you know, he couldn't believe me what I said. My sister was there telling him that I heard things going on, I heard voices, I heard things outside the window that um that were not quite normal. My sister and I were trying to explain to him, uh and of course the rest of the family about this happening. Then that was like, that was basically it. However, the strange part is the following morning when we woke up, I remember feeling that with the type of noises we heard outside the window, okay, the kids, you know, screaming, which I said it was enough where it was not intense screaming, but it was enough where anyone around the vicinity would have heard something. Um, and especially with what I saw outside the window, I would think that there had to have been other people who have noticed it. I do recall that in the following morning, um, my grandfather, you know, he mentioned it to the nearby neighbors. They haven't heard anything about any noises that happened or any recollection of anyone walking around, um, which is a bit strange to me and to my sister. Um, and the reason why I mentioned about children earlier is because immediately anyone's gonna hear this and think maybe it was a prank. Maybe somebody was they were pranking you guys. Well, I would say I don't would believe that would have been the situation, being that again, it's a small area. The neighbors that we noticed were uh in an area in a vicinity where mostly elders, maybe just one kid who I was able to basically meet, but he's a very quiet kid. Um, and so I don't see any reason why anyone would put would make such a prank to any one of us. So to this very day, Geno, um we're left here not knowing what exactly have happened that day in time. But I do know, I do know this. If there's something about this uh that did not seem right, I'm 46 years old, and I kid you not, and so to this very day I know what I saw.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Uh first going back to uh Julia's account from episode one, she did definitely mention it to me, but she didn't she didn't want to touch on this because this was kind of your experience. This is what you saw. She did not see this creature, so she didn't even want to touch it and go there, and I totally respect that and appreciate that. And if it is better, to go right to the source. So I'm glad you reached out to tell your part of it, but that's why she didn't even mention this. Sure. But going back to you had mentioned when you saw this creature, you then knew why you heard what you heard. So you believe that this was associated with the sounds, the voices?

SPEAKER_02 12:20

Most definitely, because uh when we heard the sounds from outside the window, um, the lady, the children, we knew there was something wrong. There was something going on that was not quite right. Like if the children were escaping something or they saw something. And it just happened to be right after, you know, that happened. I think that was maybe uh oh, I guess maybe 10 to 15 minutes after the the sounds that we decided to go to to leave the room for her water break for my restroom break. That this is when I walked into the room and I saw the I saw that creature, I saw the humanoid figure, the cryptid, as you will.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

Yeah, very interesting. And I d don't believe it was a prank, that's for sure. Just the time that it happened, I think so. You would have had to had children as well as as an adult in on this. Um no, definitely, in my mind, there's just no way. And just the nature of what this the sounds what the cry or the you know the what the children were doing, the female trying to calm them. The whole nature of it, it just doesn't go it doesn't scream prank to me, I should say. But how well did you see this reptilian or this lizard man as you described it? Um what was the clarity? How well did you see it and what did you see? Just describe whatever you could see.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

I can not only describe it, uh it might be a bit vague, but I can not only be able to do that, but I can also tell you my after a reaction, I can recall now what I thought that scares me to this very day. Um, well, it was like being that it was the whole house was it was like one or two in the morning. So um the the inside of the house was um all the lights were off. But you know how when you um even in the dark, your eyes are able to adjust enough where you can still see the detail of the room and be able to see the outside the window. So be the reason why I mentioned that because when I was looking out the window, I'm looking at it through the lens of being that it was completely dark, but it was enough where when I looked outside, there were some lights that were out outside the window, a couple of lights out there. Don't remember where the light where the light source was, but it was from afar. So I was able to see him, and I knew it was a he. Um the best way to describe it was that the creature or the humanoid, um, it appeared to be where the this um this humanoid was. I saw his skin. Um, it looked like there was something with his skin that did not look like we would consider human. Um I wouldn't want to describe it, I don't want to describe it as a complete look of a lizard man, but definitely it was enough where it was humanoid, but it had skin that was appeared to be of the type of roughness of the bee, like scales. And I remember um looking at barely uh he had like a little bit of uh of hair, like humanoid, like human hair, but I do remember his his way, the way he was looking through the window, the way he moved his arms, it did not appear, it didn't feel human the way he moved. Um, it's really hard to describe what I mean, Gino. It really is, but it it's it's like I did feel that when I saw this creature, you know, there's something even as a child that you'll know if it was a regular man pretending to be uh not what he is. You can kind of simply tell. But with this particular creature, it really didn't make me feel that I was staring at something that is not of the normal of the normal realm. Um but yeah, um definitely humanoid, but it did have a reptilian texture to his skin. Definitely reptilian.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

My first thought, you know, when I hear about a child seeing something like this, you know, I first did they really see what what they claim they they saw, or were they asleep? But I know for certain you were awake, you had run out of the room, you were heading down the hall. So you saw something. There's no doubt about that. So then the next part for me is okay, could this part of it have been someone playing a prank? Could this have been somebody in a costume? What what are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_02 16:48

That's what I thought now as an adult, like thinking, you know, could it have been that? But I would say if it was simply a person in a costume or anything that matter, I would look now and think, you know what, I think it just simply was that, and that's what did happen. But based on what I can remember, what I saw and how he moved, and just it's it's something it's hard to describe unless it happened to you. You know, it's something that I can say to this very day, I don't think he was human.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

Yeah, you said that a couple of times, the way he moved. Touch on that. How was he moving? What was he doing that made you think it was uh non-human?

SPEAKER_02 17:30

Where it was like he made this type of movement. Like the way he moved his arms, the way he looked through the window. It was almost as if like he was not a hundred percent familiar what he was looking at. Um, like it's something about how if a person will look through a window or look through a building, it's like you know what it is, what you're looking into. So you just kind of get to the point of just looking inside and know what you need to look for. But this particular being, it looked to me like like he was not only trying to see what he can see inside, but he was just trying to figure out what he was looking at. Like, you know, it it's it's like what kind of structure is this? What what am I exactly looking at? What is this uh what is this um panel in front of me? Like it looked almost like it was scared and curious at the same time. And the way he moved was not the way we normally would move uh knowing what we look at. But what's but what what I'm really scared to know what and to this very day is what would he have done if he spotted me to this very day. I I wonder that all the time, Gino.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Did you see his eyes clearly? Did you see his facial features? What could you make out? Because you said, you know, lizard man, reptilian, how human did it look or did it not look?

SPEAKER_02 18:53

I will have to be really honest with you, Gino. Um, with the fear I was going through, um, my reaction and shock, I cannot really recall anymore much of his face. Um, but I can definitely recall that he had um he definitely had hair um on top of his head, but the hair looked really unkempt. Um it was you know, I do remember seeing hair, but you know, it didn't it still didn't, it was not enough to convince me it was a person. Um but I do recall the skin in itself um looked reptilian. Um it didn't look at all like normal skin. Um if I have to say anything about the eyes, like I don't know, I couldn't really say anymore uh even of that, if I can recall any more about the eyes anymore, but I do recall the skin, the way he moved his arms, uh and just the way he was just like the way I would just see it is he was looking at something he wasn't too sure what he was looking at.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

I understand. And it was a long time ago and it was dark, so I know I appreciate you're just describing what you did see. Could you tell about how tall it was from your vantage point? Or from the window?

SPEAKER_02 20:10

Could you gauge the height or I would have to say uh coming from okay, my point of view, my age uh at the time, uh I would not be surprised, Gino, if uh he was probably in the area of I would say I would say taller than average. I would say probably maybe I would say six foot five.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

Oh wow, that was a big boy.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

Yeah. Yeah. He was really tall, as I can recall, in the way he was looking through the window, like the way he was trying to f you know see what was he he could find, or he did seem like a really tall person.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

And then he he did not see you. You're sure of that the way he was looking? I'm sure of it.

SPEAKER_02 20:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

About how long was the sighting, how long did you see it for? And did it take off? Did it vanish? How did it end?

SPEAKER_02 21:02

What I can recall was that, well, when you're in a situation like where you have the flight or fight response or the um you you see something that you did not or didn't uh ever think you would ever see or encounter, it felt that everything was in slow motion. I remember that, like a slow motion feel to it. But if I had to say reality how long it was, I would say it couldn't have been longer than it couldn't have been longer than a minute. But it did feel like, like I said, it was such a shocking s thing to see that I I noticed it, I fell back, I got up and screamed. I would say about a minute, I would think, would be how long I spotted the creature. I just ran away, I went the opposite direction, ran to my grandparents' room, so I do not know what he did afterwards. Whether maybe my scream scared him or but he wasn't there anymore as soon as I went to the room and I I hugged my grandparent. My my grandpa, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

What do you think it was?

SPEAKER_02 22:06

Well, I wasn't sure at all like what I was looking at, but um coincidentally, I remember when I did return back home, back to Miami. We went back to Miami, and I remember uh watching the news and there were actual um stories about encounters with they call the lizard man, but this took place in I remember South Carolina. So there was a story in the news about a humanoid figure with reptilian skin that kind of was matching the description with what I saw. Um being in South Carolina, I heard about it, and then I remember thinking maybe it was the lizard man. It could have been the lizard man. So I mentioned to my mom and dad, of course, they were upset. They were saying you're you're you're out of your mind, you're you're gone crazy. Of course, my sister didn't think I was crazy because, well, she didn't see the humanoid figure. So I, you know, I did that's why I just called it the lizard man. Um, the Herndon, Pennsylvania Lizard Man is what I called it. So when I mentioned the story to my friends or any other family members to this very day. Um but yeah, that's that's that's what I think it it it was. Possibly was my own um encounter with the lizard man, but happened to be in Herndon, Pennsylvania, and that's South Carolina.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

And the voices, what do you think you were hearing? I know I asked Julia that and she gave her take. What do you think that was?

SPEAKER_02 23:33

I personally, that's the thing. Um with what I saw and what I heard, I would say that there were definitely children and a mother. But then again, what made me scratch my head afterwards, you know, my sister was just as confused is that the next following day, no one knew anything of what happened, no one heard anything or had any suspicions that anything went on. It was almost as if it was only my sister and I who encountered it or heard it. Well, meaning I'm the one who encountered the being. She only heard the noises that were unknown. So, in a way, it's almost like we happen to be participants in a situation that was both paranormal and with cryptozoology together. Um so I couldn't tell you anymore whether what we heard that night were actual people or something else, including with what I saw.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

So let's talk about the something else. If if it wasn't people, if it wasn't a prank, where do you think those voices came from?

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Well, in this unique circumstance, um, my sister, the way she remembers it, she took it at more of a paranormal stance to it, like thinking that maybe she probably heard ghosts or something that were not wasn't really there. Um I took what what I saw more of seeing it cryptid, but like at the same time, I couldn't really answer your question since I know I saw something physically. My sister heard something only by sound. As I mentioned earlier, no one knew anything about it. I haven't heard neighbors talking about it, they haven't heard anything, and I really feel to this very day my sister and I both agree that the noises these children made should be enough, loud enough for anyone in the area could have heard something. They would have heard something and maybe said to me, You know what? I did hear children, I did hear someone trying to consolidate to the kids. No one knew anything about it, heard anything about it. So I couldn't tell you uh maybe something paranormal, Gino. Something definitely paranormal.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Do you think this the creature maybe was responsible for making those noises? Maybe do you think it that's possible? Like directly, maybe to draw attention, or I'm just I'm trying to tie the two together. They're very unique individually. So I'm really trying to associate this cryptid with the disembodied voices. And it's just it's such an interesting thing how these two very unique experiences happened simultaneously.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

I do feel that uh with what I saw had to have been tied in with what we heard earlier. It had to be. It had to be. Um, only because of um what we heard seemed to be children that they saw something, they were disturbed by something, and then the mom was just trying to console them to calm them down and say it's gonna be okay. Everything is gonna be okay. I remember that to those very days when she told them, but um the weird thing is that the distance of of each house, um I would not know why we would hear those type of sounds and voices right outside our window, as opposed to hearing them from afar instead. Uh then seeing that that's another thing I couldn't really tell you to this very day. I do know they had to be tied together, but the only thing I'm misquestioning is whether what happened was anything physical to it or the whole thing was paranormal. All I know is that it is impossible that another person, being like my sibling, experienced it with me. And I experienced that with her too. Two people. Not just one.

SPEAKER_00 27:28

Her take from episode one with the voices was that it was some type of residual, you know, haunting voices from perhaps another time. She described it as maybe children maybe in a schoolhouse and something was going on, and this woman was trying to calm them, something outside. I mean, you know, you can speculate that that was her take on it. When you had told about this figure outside of the window, do you recall? I mean, I know you were a kid, but do you recall if anyone went outside like looking for footprints or anything? Did did any of that happen, or they just did not buy what you guys were selling and didn't even bother?

SPEAKER_02 28:08

My sister and I actually did we walked outside trying to find out if we did see any footprints. Um, I remember I did walk out and I tried walking around and went exactly to the window of where all that happened. And no, I didn't see any footprints. I was hoping to. I actually was hoping to see something um in its physical form so I can point it out to anyone, but no, I didn't see any footprints, nor did anyone hear anything. It's almost as if it never happened. And um, of course, my grandfather being um who he is, you know, he um yeah, he obviously like, you know, poked fun at me and my sister about it and um gave us a little bit of a hard time over it. But all I can say is that his character, I've always been intimidated by him. I'm not saying I didn't love my grandpa, I do I do care for him, I did, you know, he I know I respect him as my grandfather, but he did have a character where as a the age I was in, it was really hard for me to feel fully confident being next to him or, you know, being able to be able to feel comfortable. But for me to scream, to be so scared and run up to and hug the guy, and you know, obviously I saw something. And my sister, you know, of course, naturally she followed me to the room and, you know, because she was scared, she saw my reaction. It's something that, you know, we both remember always and we talk about it from time to time. Um it has never I never seen anything strange after that, at least not in my with me, but um I know these things happen to a lot of different people, whether it's UFO or it's um paranormal like this, or anything with cryptozoology. Um but I know in this particular case it's a little unique having both of them tied together. At least I think it's tied together. Like you said, maybe it's maybe the whole thing was paranormal, but it is something that we both agree did happen and we're not making up the story.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Absolutely. I always ask if you'd seen anything else or had any other experiences, and it looks like this is uh this was the one for you, at least so far in your life that you have experienced. But very cool. Have you ever seen maybe images uh from other witnesses, maybe drawings or anything where you were like, Oh yeah, that looks like what I saw. Have you ever seen an image or maybe another, you know, maybe on TV you saw some kind of show or something where someone claims they had seen one and they described it or they drew it. Have you ever seen anything that looks like what you saw?

SPEAKER_02 30:40

Interestingly, uh, that's a very good question. Gino, um, naturally after that happened to me, um, I took upon in having an interest in that area um to look up anything with cryptozoology or you know, anything paranormal. And I did come across about well, this happened, believe it or not, when I went to a library and I wanted to know more about uh these types of humanoids, um, this type of in this area of the paranormal. Um and I looked up things about the lizard man. So I looked up pictures, I saw pictures of the lizard men based on accounts of what people have saw and what they've seen. And um I did see some some pictures of what you know they claimed to be the lizard man, and I would say that what what what I saw uh was a bit close to it, but I felt that um that this one more in particular, it looked more like there was something reptilian and at the same time human, but not quite human, if that makes any sense to you. Um you would know for sure if it was just a man wearing makeup. Like you would know, right? Even as a kid, you'll kind of know. I saw a man, oh, I saw a man wearing an outfit or something strange. Well what what I saw it just naturally I just felt that it was not human. I can say humanoid, humanoid, but not human.

SPEAKER_00 32:08

Oh gotcha, yeah. No, that that totally makes sense. And uh I've heard it uh described that way as uh as well before. So I know what you're saying. Yeah, very human-like.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

That's the that's the key word like. That's the key word.

SPEAKER_00 32:22

Uh Paul, uh, thank you for coming on.

SPEAKER_02 32:25

Oh thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

And uh sharing uh your tail end part of that story from uh episode one and describing what you saw as well. But thank you for being here. I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Thank you for again for having me, Gino, and congrats to your show, and thank you for finally uh able to finally be able to be on it. And um I did mention to my sister what I'm what I did uh to be on your show, and she says hi to you, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

Thanks, I appreciate that. And happy new year, because by the time this airs, we will be staring down the barrel of New Year's Eve. So uh have a happy new year, okay?

SPEAKER_02 33:00

Same to you, my friend. Thank you so much for having me on.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

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