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Crisis Talks: Room 101 Throwback

Katy and Katie

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We’ve made it to 50 episodes (how did that happen?!), and obviously… we needed an excuse to celebrate. So what better way than a Room 101 special 😏

This week, we’re throwing it right back to where it all began — revisiting our very first ever Room 101 episode. Did you catch it the first time round, or is this your first dive into our ultimate pet peeves?

Expect strong opinions, a few questionable takes, and the big question…
does Katie still hate umbrellas?! ☔️

This week's Crisis Talks is a throwback to our first ever 101!

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SPEAKER_01

Hi. Hello. We're back to hi. I know I didn't. I I deliberately did a hello. Hello. Hello? Hello. Happy well, it's Sunday afternoon. I know it's nice to see not Friday night. Nice to see your face. You've been nearly in your deathbed, haven't you?

SPEAKER_02

I have been on my deathbed this week, yeah. Your turn this time. It's not been good. It in fact it has that's the illest I've been for quite a while, that's fair.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I was like. That's exactly what I said. The illest I've felt through all the COVIDs that I've had. Definitely the worst one.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not sure about that. I wasn't sick of my original COVIDs.

SPEAKER_01

I know, but it's new COVID, isn't it? It's it's a new zone, isn't it? New COVID. Yeah. It's trying to take us down. It's gonna just keep changing until it finally finds the right solution to kill us all.

SPEAKER_02

It probably should kill off a few people, to be honest. It just needs to be selective. I'll help it. What? Help it choose. Help it choose.

SPEAKER_01

You have to be a bit careful saying things like that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you're probably right. That's like not going back to the 1930s.

SPEAKER_01

You've had a rubbish week, haven't you, really?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I've had a shit week. Um tell me what's been good. Actually, no, yeah, let's go for good. Yeah, there has been some good stuff. So today I booked my flight to Australia to see Olivia.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, that's so excited.

SPEAKER_02

I know, I can't wait. Can't wait. But it's a bit bittersweet because James is coming with us and we're leaving him there.

SPEAKER_01

Are you definitely?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he's not coming back with us. Oh my god. Yeah, he's gonna stay, so he's getting a visa. Oh my god, that's so amazing. It is amazing, but it's not for me, is it?

SPEAKER_01

No, I know it's not for you. I know. I'm happy for him though, and sad for you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and and and sat do you know what's weird? Yesterday I was looking at the flight, so I was just sat just being annoyingly like moody and ill and miserable. And I thought, right, I can't, I'm like you, you've got to just be busy, aren't you, even if you're ill. So, right, I need to maximize my illness time. So I'm lying here. Well, I'm lying here, I've got no energy to do anything, but I'm gonna maximise this. So I thought, right, flight research. Flight research, what a pain in the ass, flight research is a round and round, isn't it? It's ridiculous. And I was writing down all these things, and I've got my little planning book that I've I have got that, my little nerdy planning book. But I was like, right, if we stay a night in London or we can stay a night in in Ho Chi Minh, or we can do this, and we can and then you kind of save it, you sit down and you think, well, I'm saving about 70 quid. Why I get like that? It's just stupid. Yeah. Um, but anyway, so we booked it. So we're going on the book.

SPEAKER_01

Did you turn all your cookies off when you were looking? Because you know that it it bumps the price up every time you go back to a flight. I did, yeah. No, I do know that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um and I ended up booking the completely different flight to what I was looking at anyway.

SPEAKER_01

So where are you flying from?

SPEAKER_02

From London. So we're going from Heathrow to Ho Chi Minh via Delhi.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, that's a new one. I don't think I've ever heard of that route before.

SPEAKER_02

Now my only problem with this is obviously we're doing it on a budget. So I booked Air India and then I looked at the reviews which said you better be bet basically better off walking there than flying with Air India.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, how's their safety record?

SPEAKER_02

Oh well that that's fine. Oh, what do you mean? They haven't crashed, have they? I think lately. Oh, oh, oh god, did they crash? I've done so.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, I'm sure you'll be fine. I mean, it's yeah, you'll be absolutely fine. Oh, we won't talk about that. We'll move on from crashes.

SPEAKER_02

And I've got an hour and a half like connecting as well. Oh, in Delhi. Yeah, so that's gonna be uh interesting, us all legging it through the airport. Oh god, I'd be so right.

SPEAKER_01

I can't see it being oh no, it will be a big airport, won't it, Delhi? Yeah, you'll be fine. It won't be like Heathrow where you have to get on a train between the the terminals or anything, will it?

SPEAKER_02

No, and go and get a ticket. Yeah, no, it won't be like that. I think it's in the same terminal. I think it's fine. Um anyway, so we're going to Ho Chamin for three nights and then we're flying from Ho Chamin to Brisbane.

SPEAKER_03

Oh nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So it's an eight and a half hour flight from Ho Chamin to Brisbane. Guess how much it was? £150. No, it wasn't. Yeah. I reckon it's like an easy jet flight though.

SPEAKER_01

Fucking hell.

SPEAKER_02

You'll have to strap in for that one, won't you?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You'll be doing the flying yourself.

SPEAKER_01

It'll be a flight yourself trip. Row three, it's your go. Or you'll be peddling, keeping keeping the propellers going.

SPEAKER_02

I'll be alright because I've got my head set.

SPEAKER_01

Are you taking that with you?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I could take this, get on the plane. It's like she knows what she's doing.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, well, that's lovely though, isn't it? That's something really nice to look forward to. Yeah, yeah, I can't wait.

SPEAKER_02

But it is a bit bittersweet because I believe in James. But yeah, I can't wait. So we're gonna go, so we're gonna go to Brisbane, spend a bit of time like figuring out what Olivia does on a day-to-day and where she lives and everything, and then we're gonna road trip down to see Andy. Oh, cool. In Terragal, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's lovely. A proper family trip, like a family adventure.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it will be. Where are you gonna stay?

SPEAKER_01

What are you gonna stay in? Like a hotel or are you gonna hostel? No, don't I don't know. Not thought about that.

SPEAKER_02

I have to swear ever, not bothered.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Go old school. Stay in one of the hostels we stay in.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I don't mind, I will. Not one of those 15 bed bunk ones though.

SPEAKER_01

No, not where you get touched up when you're in your sleeping bag. No.

SPEAKER_02

Someone hanging their pants off the end of me sleeping bag. No, thanks. No. We're not doing that. No. I can at least go to a private room, surely. Yeah, I think you can manage that.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's really nice then.

SPEAKER_02

That's cool. I got a new coat. A new coat. Nice. I ordered off vintage. Vinted. God, I love vintage. Oh, isn't it the best? Vinted. Oh, so good. So Emma, my friend Emma's got a coat. Hi, Emma, if you're listening. Don't know if she will be. Um, so yeah, so we went out, she's got this raincoat, and I've seen it a couple of times. I was like, where did you get this coat from? Anyway, so it's a hunter coat. Oh no. Like the welly, like the welly people. Like it like it already. So great in a downpour. So I got one.

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_02

And it was like half price, but it literally looks brand new.

SPEAKER_01

You see, this is why I love Vinted. I got some new balance trainers this week from Vinted also. And I've been wanting new balance trainers for ages. And then um I just saw these come up and they were like 30 quid. And I think they've been worn maybe once or twice. I can totally live with that. They look virtually brand new.

SPEAKER_02

So that cheered me up when I was on my deathbed.

SPEAKER_01

Ah, oh well that's good.

SPEAKER_02

So you've had some nice things. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Is that it though? Is that is that the only nice things?

SPEAKER_02

That well, that was it, yeah. Yeah. And then so today felt better. Right, come on. We'll get out for some fresh air because we've not really been out for much fresh air, obviously. And what happens? Fell over.

SPEAKER_01

Oh K.

SPEAKER_02

Fell over flat on my face as well, went proper flying.

SPEAKER_01

Is it muddy as well? Did you get mud all over?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, covered in covered in mud. Oh no. Head to foot. Continued the walk. And like a property. I know, that's what I feel like. And I was like a toddler. I I like stomped my feet and just went, what is wrong with me? Like I don't like a lot of people. Well, to be fair, you're probably weak, aren't you?

SPEAKER_01

I bet you're still not eating properly and stuff. I've not seen no.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I I ate properly yesterday for the first time since like Monday.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man. Yeah, you see, that's why I was like, but you know, on the on the plus side, you've I bet you've lost a few kilos. I have lost a few kilos. Very true. About four. Excellent.

SPEAKER_00

See, that's what I did.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. They'll be back on tomorrow. I know. Well, that's it. They do go back on immediately, don't they? But that's the point. That's why losing weight is ridiculous. Is it?

SPEAKER_02

I just feel like I was right on the I was doing really well with my training and everything, and I was really on the ball with it. And now it's all gone out the window. Although I must admit, what I usually do when I feel like that is really beat myself up and feel guilty for not going to the gym, not doing any exercise, you know, the usual. Like, oh god, I'm gonna look terrible. And actually I didn't do that at all. That's good. So that was good, yeah, because I just thought, do you know what? It's fine, have a week off, have some rest. Go back to it next week.

SPEAKER_01

Well, Pete, my Holly, my Holly, my PT Holly, trying to get my words right, always says to me, if it means that you have a rest by being ill, I'm happy for you to be ill, because otherwise you won't rest. No, so it's like an enforced rest, and it's you realise after you've had it that actually it's probably quite a good thing to rest, isn't it? Do you think that's your body telling you though sometimes?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, probably. I think that sometimes of me. Keep going, keep going, keep going, and then I just go boom.

SPEAKER_01

It's hard to get back into it though. I started back doing like a bit of gym stuff this week because I only work out at home, I don't go to a gym because I hate the gym, um, apart from Polly, and um I was so sore this week. Like the the worst DOMs, the worst DMs I've had for a long time, but it's definitely because I've just done nothing for I had a good two weeks off with everything else with half time and stuff, so but I felt better for getting back into it.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Just gotta take it slow. No, you just gotta take it slow, it's fine, it's fine. So I had um I had my good thing this week. I had possibly the best massage I have ever had in my entire life. Ever. Oh. That's a big statement, isn't it? Yeah. That is a big statement. So it was my birthday present. So um when Neil told me he'd put me a massage, but it wasn't till October. I was like, October, he said I couldn't get in before that the um whatever it was last Saturday date.

SPEAKER_02

Now, can I interject here?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sure you don't like massages. I don't think. I thought you didn't like them. No, I do love massages. Why why did I think I'd can't imagine you like him being touched.

SPEAKER_01

Like I don't love being touched, I'll be honest. No, yeah, I don't like it. But I do like a massage. Oh, there you go. Well I've learned I've learned something new about you today. I think it's Nicola that doesn't like being touched. Oh no, she likes a massage. No, she does like a massage, it's uh yeah. I don't know. Anyway, yeah. So um it was a good massage because it was an hour and a half, which is amazing, isn't it? That's a proper treat. It was only 50 quid. Well, it is if it's good, but it's not if it's bad. Well, that's true, yeah. But she literally did it. So she was um, I think in her on her bio, like she's worked in Dubai and and all the big five, six star hotels in Dubai and stuff. So she did like a proper started like started by cleaning your feet, you know, like they do it properly, and you feel like you're getting a proper treat. And then it was the right the reason why it was so good, it was the right combination of like a sports massage with enough pressure, but also feeling like you were just being treated a bit nicely as well. So honestly, literally massaged every inch of my body in an hour and a half, and it was amazing. I feel like I needed I feel like I needed it after being ill. Do you know it was like a proper helped me get over that feeling crapness, and um yeah, I loved it. It was amazing. The best, honestly. And and so she said to me, She went, You have a lot of stress. I went, Yeah, I know. You don't tell me out here, I know. Um, she said, You should be really having a massage. I'm trying to do an accent. She has she has an accent.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I don't know why you're doing that.

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't either. She said, she said I need to have a massage once a month. I was like, Yes, I also know that. But I couldn't get I tried to book back in with her and I couldn't get back in like just before Christmas is the next availability. That's how good she is. Did you did you book in then another one? I've absolutely not, no, no, no, it was too hard. I need to, I need to, I will do it. It was really good. So that was my nice thing this week. And then do you know what I've really liked? And I'm looking out the window now, looking at it all. I really like autumn colours. That's really cheery. I do as well. I do. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02

But I'm gonna be miserable again.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, here we go. Oh my god, you're gonna keep me down today, aren't you?

SPEAKER_02

Well, so before we um before we go into the episode today, the episode is actually gonna be called room 101, and we're gonna put all the things that really piss us off and irritate us into room 101.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna struggle to fit time in.

SPEAKER_02

Well, we've gonna go on for four hours today easily. Why do the clocks go back? I hate it every year. Hate it. I sit honestly, the Sunday when you know when this when they go back, I sit there and I just run about three o'clock just thinking, oh no. And I've got like almost like my fists clenched thinking, oh no, it's going dark. Oh no, oh no. Oh, I can't bear it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I no, I do get. I mean, the plus side at this time of year is you gain an hour, don't you? So that's that's a good thing. No, but I mean, as you know, I my sleep's horrific anyway. And honestly, it's ridiculous. An hour completely destroyed my sleep habits this week. So I have not slept having just probably just about regained a bit of balance back to not sleeping again this week. And I do think it was the hour change. It's the hour. My mum used to blame it on everything. Oh well, for like a November, December, well, it'll be the hour that I feel a bit rough, it's the hour. Because they do it, it's to do with school kids, isn't it? I saw uh an article about it this week.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I have no idea, so I'm glad you're telling me because I don't understand it.

SPEAKER_01

So apparently in the I think in the 60s, they tried to reverse it. So they turned off the hour change for about five years and then they turned it back on again in the 70s because it wasn't working. Because it's something to do with kids walking to school in the dark, I think. Right. But it seems to me like whatever whatever they do with, they're gonna have to walk to or from school in the dark because the way that the hours the day shorten. Yeah, that doesn't make that no and these days anyway, they're all at clubs, so they don't even unfinish school. It's definitely something to do with farms. Everything's to do with farmers, isn't it? Like the summer holidays is to do with the farms.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, surely that's bollocks, huh? Yeah. They don't need to do it anymore. It feels like the 1800s or something, that as a rule. But I don't know whether this is what someone someone write in and tell me why.

SPEAKER_01

Someone give me a good argument for it. Why do we have the hour change? There must be a there must be a good reason, otherwise, why would we do it? Or are we just doing it because everyone's no one's brave enough to change it?

SPEAKER_02

Exactly, that's what I think it is. Well, it's always been done this way, and I hate that. But isn't that just the British way? Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_01

I think my dog's gonna bark any minute, so I'm just preparing you for that, just in case we'll put it, we'll put the dog in room 101 as well. Just in case we need to cut this section out. So um my next my room 101 thing this at this time of year is half-term and teenagers.

SPEAKER_02

Shut up and take a breath. Yeah. I don't think you can put your actual teenagers in room 101. No, maybe you could put their choice, their questionable choices and behaviour.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the teenage behaviour I'd like to put in. I think half-term or any school holidays are a challenge, aren't they? Whether they're little and then you have to find somewhere for them to go. And but then when they get bigger, it almost becomes a little bit harder because they don't want to go to clubs and they don't want to go and do things. Yeah. Then what do you do with them? Because you can't just leave them like floundering in their beds on an iPad. Or on an iPad. I mean, I know I've got the two extremes of Lottie, who will literally lie in front of the tele with her iPad, so she'll be double screening and she will do that all day, every day in her pajamas for the entire half term, if we give her that opportunity to. And then I've got Freya who literally will go to a party every night. Every single night.

SPEAKER_02

I know which one I choose.

unknown

I know.

SPEAKER_01

But I'm like, oh my god. Where did she get that from? It's really weird. What do you do with kids at half term? What do you do when they get older? What did you do with yours? I can't remember. No.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. When they were 15, 16. They just used they were just with their friends up most of the time, I think. I did use to when James always had his friends around here, which drive drives you insane as well. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We've had a lot of sleepovers this week, which has been again for me, it's like I just want to be on my own in my house with nobody else that I don't know here. Yeah. But I find that quite difficult.

SPEAKER_02

I we we went through a phase of like the front, they just let themselves in there's walk in. Oh and oh yeah, yeah. And pop their head round, right? Uh yeah, uh yes, hello. And you are get yourself a drink.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But I don't know. That but then that didn't last very long, really. So I kind of now I'm sitting here on my own.

SPEAKER_01

I'd rather they were here. I think I'd rather they were here, like with their friends, than anywhere else. Um, yeah. I think it's just the attitude. I mean, we we're at the age now, particularly with Freya, where she's because she goes to a school that's quite far away, all her friends are quite far away. So anything she does requires a lift. Yeah, that's annoying. And it but it's the the attitude bit for me is the assumption that we'll do it. There's no will you take me. It's I'm going somewhere. And and that really irritates me because then there's no thanks either. And it's like, well, why? Why like I'm sure no, I was probably the same, wasn't I? I was gonna say, I'm sure I must have said at least thank you, like appreciated some of it, but I probably didn't. No, you probably didn't when I was a teenager.

SPEAKER_02

No, you do become very selfish when you're a teenager.

SPEAKER_01

But they come out of that, don't they?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they do, they do. I mean uh yeah. Persuade me, Katie.

SPEAKER_01

Persuade me.

SPEAKER_02

I think between the ages of I mean, think about yourself. Like between the ages of like 14, well no, don't think about 14. I think we were hell on earth then.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Between 14 and like 21, 22, did you really, really, truly think about your parents' feelings? Hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think so. Oh, but only when I really hurt them. Exactly. You didn't, that means you didn't. Yeah, I mean, I was a horrific teenager. I've often joked that my mum still has never forgiven me for being a teenager. My mum hasn't. No.

SPEAKER_02

How you can still drop it into conversation when I'm nearly 50.

SPEAKER_01

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_02

I get a lot of that.

unknown

The guilt.

SPEAKER_02

She almost chuckles if I start complaining about mine.

SPEAKER_01

I know. Well, this is it. You can't then, can you? You can't you can't complain because you'll get no sympathy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So teenagers are going in room 101. So teenage behavior. Sorry, not the actual.

SPEAKER_01

Teenage behaviour.

SPEAKER_02

You should never see them again.

SPEAKER_01

No. Teenage behaviour is in my room 101, definitely.

SPEAKER_02

So, right, should we go into the episode?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I feel like we have already.

SPEAKER_02

We already have. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We've kind of we didn't even introduce it either. I know. Well, that's okay. So I think I think we can we can people know where we are by now. Obviously, how we're not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02

No. We're such professionals. I think we should record an actual welcome thing. Yeah. Maybe just put that at the beginning so we forget which one we tend to do. So we'll do that. Um right, so to get us into room 101. Let's go into it.

SPEAKER_01

Because obviously, like I said, I could go on for four hours. Come on, give me one then. Give me your first one that's going in. I've got teenage behaviour in, so I need one. Umbrellas. Why?

SPEAKER_02

Can I put umbrellas? Right, here we go. I knew you'd say that. Why? I love you. You like an umbrella, don't you? Yeah. Oh my god, they're the worst items ever. Right, loads of reasons. Just get a HUD on your coat, pull it over your head. People walk past you and pote you in the eye. Um, if it's windy, which it always is when it rains, it just goes inside out, and then the actual at the anger, the men are pulling. Rage that comes with an umbrella going inside out is off the chart. That umbrella is ending up in the middle of the road and getting trampled on. So just don't bother.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So let some let some pick your points. So just put your hood up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You see, my problem just get a good coat. Get a hunter coat off your coat. A hunter coat from a finted. I'm gonna do that. My problem with that is when you when I have my coat up, I can't hear anything. And I feel like I'm a bit people next to me talking to me, or like well, just don't talk to my I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Um what else? Uh not gonna put it in room 101, are you with umbrellas?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know, because I do like I've got lots of umbrellas and I do like my umbrellas, and it yeah, I mean I haven't had one turn inside out for a long time. Oh, you obviously I just have shit umbrellas. I think you need to buy better umbrellas. I think that's your problem.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but I don't like big ones, those big golf boots. No, no, you don't they don't have to be big. Oh my god, they're the worst as well. Because then how do you carry it and walk like no?

SPEAKER_01

I do agree that in a city centre, umbrellas should be banned. That's that's difficult. But when you're just walking up the street, like walking the dog, I have to walk the dog every day. And if it's pissing it down and I no, because then I can't see the dog, and we can't like how big's your hood.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not about just a hood, not a like a snoop, whatever they're called. What are they called?

SPEAKER_01

Like a little red riding hood hood, like a traitors thing. Oh, we need to talk about traitors, we've not got time for traitors. All right, I'll let you put umbrellas in city centres in room 101, but that's it. Right, okay. That's fair enough. That's fair enough. I'll I'll let you have that one. So, um, what was the other one that I had on here? Oh, I know what I had. Ignorant opinions.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, oh god, we could do a whole podcast on that. Go on.

SPEAKER_01

I know, but I just feel like there's a lot of people in the world, and particularly with social media now, and we're probably absolutely guilty of it with our podcast, where people make these sweeping statements and claims, or um like the Trump, the Trump effect is massive, isn't it? His kind of ability to make a sweeping statement, and it's based on zero fact that really irritates me, really irritates me.

SPEAKER_02

What like China invented COVID?

SPEAKER_01

China, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

China, China. That was one of the best videos I've ever seen, though. So hats off to Trump for that. The thing with Trump, he's got good comedy value, isn't he? I know he's I know he's the president of the United States, but uh he shouldn't be good comedy value, but he is.

SPEAKER_01

No, he he definitely is good comedy value, but he is the king of the ignorant opinion for me. It's just like um so you don't have a big problem with flags where you are, do you? People put flags up everywhere?

SPEAKER_02

Not real not where I am, but there are there are flags kicking about in Bristol. I think they get ripped down immediately.

SPEAKER_01

The flags are everywhere, as you can imagine, up north, and it it just and the people who get into these Facebook Facebook arguments are the worst actually. Yeah, they're the ignorant opinions. They can go in. They can go in. Facebook arguments with ignorant opinions attached to them, where people make these sweeping judgment statements on Facebook, and I'm just like, you don't know anything, you're making this statement, and it's so polarizing, and it just frustrates me because it just creates animosity in and amongst the community, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, I'm quite with some of the people on Facebook, it does make you worry about the state of the country, it's like just general intelligence.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it really does, it really does.

SPEAKER_02

It's shocking what people write on there, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01

I know, I know, I know, and it I I mean, and and then when people take them on, I have to say I'm on all our local Facebook group pages, but more for the comedy value of the arguments that you see people having because it's just brilliant, the the conversations that people have, and there's a couple of terrorists in there who literally go in to wind the situation up, and you can see people like falling for these wind-up merchants, and it's it is brilliant sport, but it's god almighty, people must have better things to do with their lives, surely. Surely, do you think it's just boredom though? Yeah, I don't know. I think some people think they're being funny, I think some people genuinely believe what they're saying, and oh I don't know, but yeah, ignorant opinions, it's going in room 101 for me. That big time that could definitely go in room 101. That's absolutely fine.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, it's in there, it's in there. You don't have to deal with anyone's ignorant opinions ever again. Excellent, okay. Nobody's allowed to disagree with you ever as well.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you see, my daughter said to me last night in a straight state of almost pre-teenageness, because she's not a teenager yet, the youngest one. Um, Mum, you don't have to be right all the time. Oh it's like, I think you'll find I do.

SPEAKER_00

I actually am.

SPEAKER_01

And I am generally always right. Oh dear. I think she might be the one. She might be the one that takes me on eventually.

SPEAKER_02

I think you might be right there, yeah. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We've got that one coming in a few years.

SPEAKER_01

I know, something to look forward to. Right, give me another one of yours then.

SPEAKER_02

Oh god, I let's have a look. I've got but I've got the list so long.

SPEAKER_03

I know.

SPEAKER_02

It just it grows by the minute. Um which one? Oh, I've got one, which could go with the umbrella actually, eating when walking. Yeah, I saw this one on your list. I uh what's your problem with that? Right, this is another thing. Um the different thing, right? So obviously I'm a diabetic. If it's for medicinal purposes, you have to eat, don't you? It's people like walking down the street shoveling in like a sausage roll or a pie. And I'm like, Does it matter what they're eating? Yeah. Uh no, no, don't even like people eating like bananas or apples. I just think you should just sit down on a ball.

SPEAKER_01

I like to eat an apple.

SPEAKER_02

How how much of a rush are you in?

SPEAKER_01

Always in a rush.

SPEAKER_02

That you have to eat an apple on the run. Yeah, why not?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I wouldn't eat like a full roast dinner while I was walking.

SPEAKER_02

I just think like you not no, just have enjoy your food. Sit down and eat it. It'll take you like eating an apple, how long does it take you? Like you if you really went for it, you could eat an apple in 30 seconds, I reckon.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, right, we're gonna test that in another episode.

SPEAKER_02

Just think rushing around eating, it's just not the one, and then this was sealed by um in our Big Tesco's at the bottom of the road, they've opened a Greg's inside Big Tesco's. So now inside, inside exactly, Ry Rollin see. Um now, so then people go into Greg's, buy a sausage roll, and then walk round Tesco's doing their shop eating a sausage roll. Now don't tell me that, don't tell me that's alright, it's not.

SPEAKER_01

Is it well it's not, but also I do remember the time when we used to go shopping in Australia and we would buy like a bag of roast potatoes off the hot counter and eat those while we were shopping in Woolworths. Oh we did.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, I'm gonna have to stand corrected, aren't I? We didn't, we did. We had a bag of roast potatoes shoved in the little and chicken skin. Do you remember? Chicken, yeah. Oh yeah, we did, yeah. Oh. I'll take it back. I'll take it back. Everyone carry on eating. I'm working.

SPEAKER_01

You've just given an ignorant opinion.

SPEAKER_02

I have. And I do and do you know what? The funniest thing about it is I do eat and walk myself because I'm diabetic, so I'm shoveling sweets in my mouth.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, well that one's not what it is. That one's not what it is that annoys me. I think people annoy you. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I liked the one that you had on here, which was irritating phrases. Oh, loads. Loads.

SPEAKER_02

Why do you not like a piece of fruit? Oh see, a piece of fruit. Oh god, I can't even say it. A piece of fruit. What it's like nails on a blackboard. What is it though? What I don't know. A piece of fruit. Do you want an apple? What do you know what it was, right? Do you know what the actual phrase annoys me? It was like when um it like people parent, oh god, what they called, like people who think they know what they're talking about when it comes to kids. Oh yeah. Like super nanny types.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, and they'd say, Oh well, don't give your it's like your kid wants a like a wam bar on the way home from school. Well, what you need to do is offer them a piece of fruit. And I just used to think, fuck off. Why? Why have you said it like that? Would you like a banana? Do you want a banana? Yeah, I'll have one of them. Do you want an apple? I have one of them. You know, offer a piece of fruit.

SPEAKER_01

A piece of fruit. You wouldn't say like a piece of sandwich, would you? Or a piece of crisps, or no. So I get it, I do get it. What is it? Is it because I'm northern? And I don't know. I think it's quite a southern phrase. I do think it's a southern phrase. My guy. Yeah, it probably is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

A piece of fruit.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I can't even say it.

SPEAKER_01

There are a lot of work-based phrases that really get me. And um things like uh, I mean, there's some really old school ones, aren't there? But one that really gets me is let's circle that back to that point another time, or let's just park that one for now and we'll move on to something else. It's those little like, I don't know, it's corporate phrases. Yeah, there's loads of them though, isn't there? There's there's tons of them.

SPEAKER_02

I just heard new ones every week. Well and everything's super these days as well. Super helpful, super excited, super everything super. I'm finding that lately. Um yeah, what did I hear the other day? Oh, someone's really weird. You're putting all of your you're putting their rocks in your backpack or something. Oh, carrying it.

SPEAKER_01

That's like the old monkey on your back thing though, isn't it? I guess.

SPEAKER_02

I think my favourite work one is not my monkeys, not my circus.

SPEAKER_01

Not my monkeys, not my circus. Yeah. Oh my god, that is amazing. I am using that one tomorrow at work. 100%.

SPEAKER_02

That was always my favourite. Listen to all this just stuff going on thinking this has got nothing to do with it. It's not my circus.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, right. Okay, that that's going on my list. I'm gonna use that tomorrow. We can put irritating phrases in 101, but with a caveat that there'll always be new ones, we're gonna have to keep opening it up to put them in.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we've just talked about ones that we didn't even have on our list.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_02

So there you go. Hits different. That's my worst one ever. Hits different. Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's like a proper media lovey type thing, isn't it? Like a bit oh, that hit different.

SPEAKER_02

What? What does it mean? I don't even know what it means. No, I don't. Hit different. No. It's like somebody's almost going like that when they say it. Hits different.

SPEAKER_01

For the purposes of people who can't see Katie, she's doing some sort of weird sideways shrug.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It's like a shrug. Yeah. Oh no, hits different. It's different. What does it mean? I feel like I need to know what it means. Hits different. Made me feel um hit me hard. Hit me hard. Is that what it means?

SPEAKER_01

I suppose it's hit yeah, hit you hard, but from a different direction. I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

It's bollocks anyway.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's bollocks. There's always bollocks. I'm gonna right, I'm gonna go in with the last one before we finish. Um and um it was on your list, but I'm totally commandeering it. People speaking on the loudspeaker of the phone. Oh my god. Oh my god. There's two things here. So the kids do it all the time. When when Freya answers the phone to me, she answers it on the loudspeaker. And I'm like, why? Why why? Why does everyone else need to hear me?

SPEAKER_02

I don't want to hear your voice, I don't want to hear their voice.

SPEAKER_01

No, I've rung you, pick your phone up and just speak to me. Like, why do I have to be on loudspeaker? And then I end up if she's at school or something, or with her friends, I end up then having a whole conversation with her friends as well. Like they're all joining another conversation. Like, I didn't ring to speak to you, lot, I wanted to speak to my daughter. Yeah, she does that all the time. And then I've got a guy at work who goes always has his conversations on loudspeaker on the phone, and he's not particularly young, he's not old, he's like mid-30s. Um, but he has all his conversations on his mobile phone on loudspeaker. And if he can't well, everyone, everyone about everything. What if someone said something like embarrassing? I don't know. And if he can't get into a meeting room to do it, he goes and stands at the bottom of the office. We've got like um like a lounge area, you know, like a um you can go and sit quietly and do stuff. And he goes and stands down there on the call, but you can still literally hear every single word of it. And I'm like, why? Why is it? Do you not drop a hint?

SPEAKER_02

Do you not say, Is is the speaker on your phone broken? Can you not?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I don't know. I think I might just actually tell him it's really irritating because we can I can tell him things like that. It's just like, why I don't understand it. Why would you do that? Why do you need everyone else to hear the other side of your conversation? I don't get it.

SPEAKER_02

What if they like came out with something like really private and Yeah, exactly?

SPEAKER_01

I'd be mortified. And he does answer the phone to me on loudspeaker as well, but I always say take me off loudspeaker. I do it to frame it. Take me off loudspeaker. I'll don't sing in. Or I won't talk. Yeah. What is it like? Why do people do it? What is it?

SPEAKER_02

I don't why would you want other people hearing your conversation? I don't really know, is it? I've no idea. No. Nope. There's plenty of conversations. Well, most of my conversations I won't want other people apart from being on a podcast, so maybe we're we're just as uh We're the ultimate loudspeakers, aren't we? Yeah, we are. People choose to listen to it though, they can just press stop. They can. Um yeah people who do it on um public transport trains, like FaceTime, like their mum or something on on a train.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, why?

SPEAKER_02

And their kids and they're I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Neil won't even answer the phone to me when he's on the train because he doesn't even like having a private phone call on the train.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I agree with him though. Yeah. Like just just message me. I'm the same. Right, we're moving 101.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think we've set the world to rights?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think it's I think we've just scratched the surface. I think there's another 10 episodes, isn't there? Well, we've we've got some more to talk about, and we've got for so if people have managed to make it to the end of this this episode of our um main episode of the podcast, we've got crisis talks coming up on Wednesday, and we've got some contributions from a listener. Um, and I've got a really big one, but it we definitely won't have time to cover. Do you feel I feel like that's enough of a do you think that's enough of a like what's it? What's it? What's it called? Introduction. No, what's the word? I mean cliffhanger, that's the word. Cliffhanger. The menopause brain kicks in then.

SPEAKER_03

Oh what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01

This didn't make your own word up like I do. I nearly said cliff edge. Oh, cliff edge, that would have been good. I knew it had a cliff in it, but I can't think what it was. No. Cliff. I think we've left enough of a cliff edge. So shall we say goodbye? Say goodbye.

SPEAKER_02

Say goodbye. Say goodbye to our listeners, come back again. I know, don't leave us. Please keep going. We're not that miserable. Well, I have been today, I admittedly.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But sometimes you need a good moan. Sometimes you need a good moan, and it's like cathar cathartic. Oh my god, I nearly said the wrong word again. Cathartic, and then and then you feel better, don't you? So we're doing people's moaning for them. We'll get it out of their systems and then they'll all be happy and cheery for the rest of the week.

SPEAKER_02

And for the record, even though I have like complained about really strange things today, everyone will have something that gets on their nerves that other people will go, What are you talking about? That's fine. Which is all the room 101 things.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so if you have anything to add to our list, just email us at hello midlife at iCloud.com um and we'll read them out next time. Join in, join the moaning, join the moan brigade.

SPEAKER_02

Join the moan. Oh, but that's how we need to start a movement. Yeah. There's probably loads of them out there already on Instagram. Yeah, it's drives me that that's someone's already started that. Cool.

SPEAKER_01

All right, well, have a good week. I'll see you Wednesday. See you Wednesday.

SPEAKER_03

Bye.