Crisis Talks: Tiny Joys, Big Difference

This week on Crisis Talks, we’re talking about the small things that pull us back to ourselves when life feels overwhelming.

From wildflower meadows and gardening to kind strangers, comforting TV shows, and quiet moments alone, this episode explores the everyday things that bring calm, joy, and perspective.

This isn’t about forced positivity or pretending life is perfect. It’s about noticing the tiny moments that soften hard days — and why those moments matter more than we realise.

If life has felt noisy, heavy, or relentless lately, this episode is your permission to slow down and reconnect with what makes you feel good.

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SPEAKER_01 0:49

Hello. Hello. Hello again. Back again for Crisis Talks. It's Wednesday. Wednesday. We're not going to be miserable today. Well, we flip reversed it, haven't we? We moaned in the main episode, and so Crisis Talks is all about positivity. The power of positivity. Being cheerful. We're channeling some Pat positive actions, positive thoughts, positive interaction. Yeah. How is Pat? Pat's good. Although I haven't seen her for a little while. We probably need a catch up. We'll catch up soon. Get her back on. Yeah. Now we're free from GCSEs. She's had Lois has done hers as well, so she'll be feeling the relief of GCSE like we are.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

But Livia's going to uh Leeds, by the way. Yeah, we should try still going.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

She's not got a ticket yet, but if she wants to, yeah.

unknown 1:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

That might be good. Who's she going with? Just a friend down there. Right. So she could be the um responsible adult, so I don't have to go.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Yes, she could. She's she's got to be more responsible than Freya. I was gonna say she's got to be more responsible than you then.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

Yeah, that as well. I almost forgot that's what you were gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

She's got to be more responsible than you. Oh, thanks.

SPEAKER_01 2:07

After last week's diary episode, I think I think all our kids are more responsible than we are. Yeah, well, we know that anyway, don't we? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:14

Oh dear. Way more sensible. Um, right, so we're gonna talk about things that cheer us up.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

Are we gonna do that? Yeah, things things that should we do things that cheer us up, and then we'll go back to the end of 101 and um thing we were talking about choosing things to watch and stuff. So we can go through some nice recommendations at the end, can't we? Good. Um, so shall I start? Because I had a good list for this. I'd start I'd started this list, didn't I? Because I was I think I must have just been feeling really cheerful. I think Sally went out. A bad list for room 101, but a good list for positivity.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

So I had my first one was, and this is very like um middle-aged of me, but I'm assuming Bristol do the same. But at the sides of roads everywhere now in Lancashire, they do wildflower meadows. In fact, they do them everywhere, to be fair, yeah. Um, across the northwest. But particularly near our house, there's a strip that they do every year, and I just absolutely bloody love it. I'm slightly obsessive about it because I love looking what flowers have come up, and there's such a variety of stuff, and it just absolutely, for some reason, lifts my heart when I see it. Yeah, I love it. It's just beautiful, and it's it's only a little strip, and it's like next to the road, and it's a you know, it's not a big piece of land, but it just really cheers me up when I see it. So that was my first one. No, it's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

It's always got cornflowers in it, as which are my favourite flowers. Are they? I'm growing some cornflowers in the greenhouse. Ah, I love 'em.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

I like cornflowers.

SPEAKER_02 3:48

Yeah. Yeah. Which we're quite late actually for cornflowers, but yeah. Anyway. Well, yeah, we have had August.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

August, yeah, I suppose, is you can carry on flowering, don't they? I've tried to do wet wildflow. So I went through a little phase and I thought, right, I'm gonna my grass is getting on my nerves. So I thought I'm gonna have my whole front garden as like a wildflower meadow. Yeah, nice. Um because it's a neat it's just a bit of grass, isn't it? Because we've got our driver then and I thought, oh, and it never it just didn't work.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

So did you put yellow rattle in? No. Right. So what you need to do is get yellow rattle first, and then if you plant that and you you have to order the seeds online, they're really hard to get hold of. They're only available at certain times of the year. But it's a bit like um, I can't think what the word is because the perimenopause brains kicked in. But it basically um make a word up. I was gonna say it it it stops the grass from growing, but it's like um what's the word? When one creature lives on another creature, like it it's like um oh my god, like yes, like it's a bit parasite. Yeah, it's a bit parasitic for grass. So it actually stops the grass from growing and makes it easier for the wildflower seeds to take to the ground and to right. Oh, I did not know this. Yes, so yellow rattle, everyone else who's listening who did not know this. Putting them just into the ground, that's why it didn't work. Yeah, it won't work like that. We did manage to do that eventually. We didn't use we I couldn't get any yellow rattle and and I did manage to get a little bit of a wildflower meadow going, but ours was too wet, so it didn't work very well. But yeah, that's how to do it. Right, thanks for that. I'm welcome anytime here for gardening advice. That's what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

That is what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

You need to go you might not get it at this time of year, you might have to wait till the spring now. Right, okay. Well you probably do it, yeah, you will do now.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

Right, I'm gonna do it.

unknown 5:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

Because I love flood flowers as well, and just but I love like the mixture, like you say. Yeah. It's like red, yellow, blue, like it's lovely.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

Oh, big poppies, you've got the big red poppies at the moment. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

Yeah. Smell of them. And the smell's nice, and yeah. Anyway, that was my yeah. Sweet peas, the smell of sweet peas. Sweet peas are the best smell ever. Aren't they? We yeah. I've got some dwarf sweet peas this year and some normal sweet peas, and the dwarf ones smell incredible. It's like normal sweet peas times ten. Yeah, the smell. It's amazing. Definitely recommend that. And it just hits you like when you walk in. Yeah, it's amazing. We saw on our walk today in Derbyshow Derby Shar. Derby. You've taken on and making up your own words. I like it. We saw um some sweet peas, and they were incredible, like all but all very um uniform in colour and everything. So my my MD John is really into his gardening, and we were looking at these sweet peas, and he said, That's a perennial sweet pea, that. And I went, I did not know perennial sweet peas existed.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

That is perennial sweet peas. Yeah. Have yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

Oh gosh, right. So I need perennial sweet pea in my new house. That will be number one that I buy.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

Front garden, perennial sweet pea, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

Right, okay. I'm gonna get them. It's huge, beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

Yeah, it's lovely. There you go. Go on, you're next. Right. Um, what have I got for happiness? Cheerful strangers saying hello. Oh. It's great, isn't it?

unknown 7:22

I know.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

So I had a few. I've had a few of it this week where someone's just like been wandering along and they've just looked over, smiled and gone, hi morning. You know, like a really cheerful, happy person.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

And I was like, oh, why can't if everyone was like that, yeah, the world would be a much better place. Yeah. Like genuinely would be. Yeah, I agree completely. A lot of people do just look at the floor, don't they? Or just look at or or will look straight at you and still don't say anything. I do try and smile at people, but it like the people who really go for it with the smiles and the mournings and the hellos.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Yeah, I try to, I so it depends what mood I'm in, but I do always try to say hello. And I'll never forget when I came back from London um and came back up north to live, and I used to go out for a run with my brother like every every couple of nights or so. And as we were out running, he would say hello to everybody we went past.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

And it used to vaguely irritate me and I'd be like, Why are you doing that? Because I was very London at that point. Um but then I started to really like it, so I've made it like I've made it a thing for me now that I try and I do try and say hello to people as I go past them and like speak to them. Because I just think it's nice, isn't it? If it brightens someone's day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

And it what and even and if it even if it doesn't brighten their day and they think you're an idiot. Then it's a matter, does it? It's their problem. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

But I like it. We used to play a game with the kids when they were a bit younger where we'd try and make them wave at random people on the street as you drove past them. That's quite good fun.

unknown 8:51

Hello.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

Because they go, they don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

You've always got to wave at little kids. I know, yeah. Always.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Definitely. When you see them on bridges and stuff and you're going under the bridge, you have to wave.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you need to be more like a small child at times, don't you? Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

Childlike behaviour. Definitely recommend that. Yeah, let's get that in. Okay, um I'll do you another one then. So I've my next one is my girls getting on. So it it's been like um it's been a long time where I felt like they've not got on and they've not really had a great relationship. And it I've listened, they're not perfect at all yet. But there's just been a few occasions recently where I've caught them chatting, but chatting really naturally and like just about random things and school and stuff like that. Um and it's just lovely. It it I can't well, you know, you'll know with your own kids. It absolutely warms my heart, it makes me feel amazing when I see them getting on and chatting and laughing together when they laugh together. That is my favourite thing. It's just the most amazing thing. But it did slightly backfire on me in that um me and Freya were having discussions about something to do with the boyfriend and and going out and stuff like this. And um boyfriend name, Harley. And um and Lottie had been so Lottie needed to get something from the shop. So Freya said, Oh I'll walk up with you. And I was like, Oh, that's nice. Like they they went for this walk together and chatted on the way and came back and Lottie came back and she said, Mum, I think you're being too tough on Freya. I think I might have mentioned this in the episode. Oh yeah, yeah. I think you're being too tough on Freya. I think you just need to let her go, and you know, she's 16 and she's learning how to live. And I was like, little fuckers, they've got on, and now they're ganging up on me. Manipulating me together. Yes. So it went from being a joy to being slightly irritating, but I'll still take it because it's nice.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

Oh no, it's not is do you think that's because Freya's um Lottie's like maturing more now because she's at secondary school.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah. I think the competitive elements dissipated a little bit because Lottie's not such a little girl now and isn't like I don't know what it is, whether it's competitive for attention or or whatever, but I yeah, I just think they've relaxed both of them a little bit to each other, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

That's nice, isn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Yeah, my kids get on quite well. But I'll never forget the story you told me when you'd been driving somewhere. I think maybe you were coming up here and they'd been falling out in the back of the car. And I can't remember which way around it was, whether it was Olivia shouting at James or James shouting at Olivia, because one of them kept looking out the other one's window.

SPEAKER_00 11:45

Oh yeah, oh yeah, they did. Stop looking out of my window. It made me laugh. It's always made me laugh that. You've got your own window.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

Oh yeah. If they argue, they argue. They're probably still the same now, aren't they? They don't seem to argue that much. It's quite nice, really, because like James being away, they'd still like messaging each other a lot and stuff. Oh, that's good. Yeah, it's quite nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

Yeah, I mean it makes you feel hopeful, doesn't it? Like I always I've always said, because they've mine have not got on quite extremely over the years, and I've always said some when I'm dead and gone, you two have only got each other.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

Unless Neil's still knocking around. But ultimately, you've only got each other. And I I think that's such an important thing, isn't it? With siblings. Like, whether you get on or not, you've got you've got to be together. You've got to be with each other. There's a bond there.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

We'll be there. Definitely. Um so what else have I got on here? Positive stuff. Oh this is a funny one. It's not funny. Um taking ages having a shower. Oh. I had a shower, I can't remember what day it was, it was this week sometime, and I thought I'm gonna take ages. I took ages having a shower. And then I got out and like did took took ages like drying my hair, doing the whole moisturizing thing, and then put like really fresh, comfortable clothes on afterwards. I was like, oh my god, I feel absolutely amazing just from doing that. That is but because I'm always I I rush all the time. I'm always rushing. If I have a shower, I mean like it's the morning I'm going like going to work or whatever, and then you like jump in the shower when you get back from the gym, or you know, there's never like a I'm just having a shower as like a luxury thing. Yeah, yeah, that's true, actually. It's functional shower, isn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

And I but it didn't make me feel so much better. Well, we're going back to the self-care Sunday theme, aren't we? Where that this is what Brandy used to do. She'd have a shower for like four hours.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

Oh, well, yeah, maybe four hours might be a bit much. And I'd get my water bill and have some sort of meltdown. I know, well, it is. Yeah. Be like, Dave, you and your nice showers, we need to be reduced to two minute water.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

But you fell nice. I uh yeah, no, I like that. I like I mean, I still like a bath really. I do like having a bath and I think no, I know you don't like baths, do you? But I do like a bath and I like like just putting your moisturizer on when you get out and I always just have to sit on the bed for a minute and just oh yeah, I love it. Love it.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

Just taking a bit of time just makes you realise how much you do everything's a rush, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

I suppose just having time to do anything is a little bit of a luxury, isn't it? It is. I think it is in this day and age, yeah, definitely. Yeah. And then like yeah, even like doing the garden, slowing down, doing something.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Yeah. Yeah, I got home, I was a bit stressed yesterday. I had a stressful day at work. Not stressful, it was just busy and life's busy, isn't it? And I got home and Neil was cooking tea. So I had like a bit of sort of 40 minutes where I had no plans to do anything, because I thought I was going to be making tea. So I went and did a bit in the garden, like stuff that I would normally try and do really quickly and get out of the way, you know, deadheading roses and and I just wandered round and just did things, and yeah, that was that was nice. Really nice.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Yeah, it is. A bit of peace and calm comes over here, isn't it? Yeah, definitely. But and it's not just what you're actually doing, it's the amount it's the fact that you have got a bit of time to do it and you can take time. Yeah, there's no rush element to it. Yeah, agreed, yeah. What the shower was like there was no rush element. Yeah. So if I'm doing this to be nice, to something nice.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

That's a nice one, yeah. I like that one. So is your last one funny voice notes? Is that the one?

SPEAKER_02 15:51

Yeah, funny voice notes. This is just something that um my friend just leaves me really funny voice. I used to hate voice notes. Do you remember that? I hate them. Don't leave me a voice note because it really annoys me. I'll be in work, I won't be able to listen to it, it'll wind me up. Don't leave now, full circle, and I like them now. Oh, I see. You know, we just like listen to her voice and she's whittering, and I think, oh, this is actually really funny. It brings a smile to your face. Yeah. I was like, These are good.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Yeah, I do like a voice note. I tend to there's only a few people have voice note, you're one of them. Yeah. Um, although I don't do it as much because I don't think you like them, but I'll start doing a bit more now. No, start doing them now because I'm all on board. Um, and uh Simona voice note and then um uh Alyssa at work. We voice note each other a lot and it's quite funny. Like she left me a voice note today that was nearly four minutes. Yeah, that was like my friend five minutes yesterday. But I loved it. So I was I was on this walk with work, Alyssa hadn't come, and she'd left me this voice note. I hadn't time to listen to it. So I start, I thought while we were walking, I thought, oh, if anyone, I'm just gonna just listen to this quickly. And at two minutes in, I was like, I'm gonna have to pause it. I'll listen to it later. It's too long.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Yeah, yeah. But it was lovely, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

I do love them.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

I do, yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Cruising Marie. Cruising Marie, nice and Marie, she leads some long voice notes. I like it, yeah. I just they just make me chuckle. I just yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Hey, Cruising Marie Cruising Marie would be proud of me. I managed to get my cabin upgraded on our cruise in a few weeks.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

Oh, did you?

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Yeah, just proud of myself. There was like they they do this bidding thing on Royal Caribbean, so you can they give you all the options of an upgrade and then they give you a window between I don't know, £50 and £2,000. Yeah. And you can put a bid in top grade your cabin. So I just put in the lowest possible bid on two or three different options and I got one of them. Good. So what are you up to now then? What what's well we're still in a normal state room, but we've got a proper balcony now. So that feels a bit better with at least me and Neil can go and sit outside while the girls are getting ready and stuff. So we won't feel quite as on top of each other. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:01

Good. Oh, exciting. Are you excited? I am excited now, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just want to get there and where do you go?

SPEAKER_02 18:08

It's not long, is it?

SPEAKER_01 18:10

Not long, 4th of July we go. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

I know. Oh, it's exciting. It is exciting. We can't do a podcast on the craze.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

No, we can't. Well, we'll come back to that. We'll have to have a little think about what we do. We did say we might have a summer break, didn't we? Yeah, we're gonna have to, aren't we? We might have to do that, yeah. But we'll we'll think about that next week. That's next week's problem. Can't do it yet. No. So shall we end with some recommendations? Recommendations on room 101. My problem was that it's just too difficult to choose stuff these days. There's too much choice, too many things, and it stresses me out when I want to watch something. So I then end up watching something I've already watched because I can't choose anything. So we said that we'd do some recommendations. So do you want to go first? What have you got? Books or shows? Uh right, sure. Have you watched Clarkson's Farm? I haven't.

SPEAKER_02 18:58

I don't love Jeremy Clarkson, so it's it shouldn't be my first choice, but just watch it, honestly. Okay. It's worth watching. Even if you don't like him, it's worth a watch. Okay. Alright, I'll put that on the list. Yeah. You'll like it, honestly, you will. Just Clarkson, he's alright. He's he's a different person in this. Is he? Okay. Yeah. Just give him a give him a chance.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

I'll give I'll give Jeze a chance then. Give him a chance. Just give him a chance. Um, and have you watched Two Weeks in August?

SPEAKER_01 19:30

No, I've not. And I I it's one of those that I saw and I thought I must watch that, and then I never watched it. So I need to watch it. Watch that. Midlife women need to watch it, I would say. Oh, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

I think.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

Yeah. Um so on that theme then, my brother recommended, and I haven't watched it yet. I started it and then I started it at the wrong time and I couldn't I just couldn't finish it. And my I haven't got my glasses on, so I can't read it. There you go. It's called How to Get to Heaven from Belfast. Have you watched it?

SPEAKER_02 19:57

Oh, right, no, no. Don't uh hang on a minute. I'm starting to think that I might have seen that. It starts with one of their friends dying and they're going to the funeral.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

Maybe not. Something else with Belfast in the title. Oh that's that's meant to be very funny. So that's on my list to watch, but I haven't watched it yet. Right, I'll put it on my list. It's on my list. Very good. I've got um I'm just looking at Netflix now. So Legend, but obviously we do I don't even think we talked about Legends. Did we talk about Legends on the show? I can't remember. That was good though. Yeah, I enjoyed that. That was really good to watch. Yeah. Um so I think American listeners can listen to this, watch this as well. Yeah, it's good. So I think um we maybe talked about this when we've done this before, but uh Shits Creek is one of my most favourite shows ever.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

I have never seen it. I know, never seen it. And my friend said the same because she can't believe I'd never seen Shits Creek. I've not seen any of it. Oh my god, you have to watch it. I've watched it four or five times. No, never seen it. Oh, I definitely it's probably it it's probably the reason I haven't watched it is probably because of Dave not wanting to watch it. Oh, it doesn't always agree with what I'll want to watch.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

But it do you know they're like half-hour episodes, so it's one that you can watch on your own, I reckon. Like Yeah, so yeah, yeah. I mean, I've watched it loads and I've I'm almost ready to watch it again. I reckon it's been probably a few months since I last watched it. I just love it. I love it so much. It's such a nice show. It's a bit like Ted Lasso, which I've talked about before. Oh yeah, right, okay. That sort of office, gentle, not always laugh out loud, although there are some laugh out loud minutes in it. Yeah. But it just it's just nice to watch.

SPEAKER_02 21:39

Nice.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Have you watched Firefly Lane?

SPEAKER_02 21:42

No, didn't fancy it because I don't know why really. Is that good? Well, I un I only watched it because of the author of the book, Kristen Hunner, who wrote The Nightingale.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

He wrote that. Um, and so I kind of knew the story, which m may spoil it slightly, but um it was actually better than I thought.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

It's a bit cheesy at times. Yeah, we see we've watched a lot of Gilmore girls in this house. Both my girls have loved Gilmore girls, and when I saw it at the heights, I thought it was giving me Gilmore girls vibes, and I just thought I can't I can't do it.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

Yeah, it is quite good. It's quite good.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

Okay. All right. I'll put that on the list. Keep that one in your back pocket. Okay. All right. Um, I've definitely talked about this one before um when we've done recommendations, but I'm saying it again because I loved it so much. Um, and that is shrinking, which is on Apple TV. Oh yeah. I have got Apple TV. Absolutely loved it. It just the best thing. It's so good. Again, it's Ted Lasso vibes. It's the same thing. It's it's that Brett Goldstein. So same writers, but yeah, 100% couldn't recommend it anymore. And slow horses on Apple TV. That is so real. I've not got Apple TV.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

It's really good. Um Spring Watch. Springwatch. Gardner's World.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

I love Gardener's World. I watch Garden, honestly, Gardner's World just makes me feel better about Garden World.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

Oh, so calm.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Yeah, I feel so calm.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

It's finished now, but yeah, we'll know that.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Alright, let's do some books and then we need to go. Um, so recently, two books that I've just finished actually, which were both really good. Um, one's called Wild Dark Shore. Have you read that? No. I can see that. You know that you'll be able to listen to this again, don't you? Just so. Um and that's so that's really good. It's a bit it's not one that you'll read and feel great afterwards, but it's a nice book. It's a good book. It is a good book. Right. As in what do you mean, able to be depressed? No, not depressed. I just read it. I liked it. It's it was interesting and it's based loosely on a couple of real life places. So it's it's basically an island between New Zealand and Antarctica, and a family live on the island as caretakers of a seed bank on the island, so it's where they the UN keep their seed bank, so it's safe. But because of climate change, they're getting more and more storms and they're having to empty the seed bank and leave the island. And it's so it's a it's about them and why they're on the island, and you're like it's about a dad and three teenagers, and then this woman washes up on the island and it's a bit of a mystery, and then the mystery is solved, and it's just really interesting. Right, that sounds good. Yeah, it's good. Um, and then the one I've just finished is the names. Have you read that? No, but I've heard of the names. Really good. Right. It's a bit of a like not a mind fuck, but it's a bit sliding doorsy, like right, okay. Yeah, it's really good. Definitely recommend it. Right, okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

So I've got um All the Colours of the Dark. Oh, I've not read that. Oh, that's good. Hmm. It's really good. I won't even I'm not even gonna say what it's about. Because it's quite straight it's quite strange, but it is really good. Okay. Um City of Girls. Oh, not read that. I've read that, that's a really good book. Um that is about um like set in the 1920s and about like Showgirl. It's really good. Yeah. Yeah. Um what else? All the light we cannot see. I've no of it, I've not read it though. That's a really good book. That's again, it's quite it's not a it's it's not a comedy, but uh so it's like a set in war times from the perspective of a German soldier and a French girl, and it flits between the German soldier and this French girl and her dad, and it's all the all the stories are all intertwined. I like books like that. Oh yeah, it's really good. You'd love it, you would definitely love it. But yeah, I can't I lent it to somebody, I can't remember who I lent that one to, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

And I'm now reading a Vietnamese book called The Mountains Sing, and that's really good as well. Okay. Yeah. What's that about then? Um, so this is just about a family in the Vietnam War. Oh wow, okay. And from their, like, from their perspective as a Vietnamese family. Yeah. So interesting, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

Yeah. Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Oh, some good recommendations. I feel like we've all we've gifted this to our listeners now. Some good shows and some good books. There you go.

unknown 26:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

Positivity. Well, we can end our crisis talks on a nice high then and undo all the moaning that we've done and move on to something else. I don't think we moaned too well. I thought we were cheerful. Yeah. Cheerful tonight.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

Yeah. Um what was it gonna what we're gonna talk about next week? Well someone give us someone give us an idea.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

Yeah, we yeah, well, we we probably could do with a few fresh ideas, couldn't we? I think next week might have to be our last week in reality. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll let next week will be our last week. We'll probably have a summer break. Um, we might do a couple of special episodes mid-summerish. Yeah. Um, and then come back in the autumn ready for celebrating your 50th, my 50th. And all the fun that comes with that. We might have already sorted it out by then. Yeah, we will. Definitely. Well, I'll have moved house, so that'll be exciting. I'll have climbed a mountain. You'll have climbed Ben Nevis. Yeah. So we'll have lots to talk about. But as things stand, we need some ideas. So if anyone wants to give us some good ideas for next week, our email address is hello midlife at iCloud.com or obviously all the social medias except TikTok where we've been shadow banned, you can contact us by direct message. Bowls to TikTok. I don't like them. No, we don't want them anymore. No, they suck. No dear. Right, all right then.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

All right, Dylan. Uh we'll love you and leave you.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Yeah, have a lovely weekend. We've not even talked about what we're doing this weekend, but we can come back to that next week when we've done. We're going out with Emma tomorrow. Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

Emma, who's a regular listener. Hi, Emma. Oh, hi Emma. See you tomorrow. Don't get too drunk.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

No, no, no. Never. No. Cool. All right, lovely. Right, all right then. See you next week. Bye bye bye. Bye, bye, bye, bye.