Deciding Iowa
Deciding Iowa is a podcast tackling the tough political and people-focused issues shaping our state. Through honest conversations and deep dives into policy, Shawn Ellerbroek and Emily Boevers break down complex topics with expert voices and clear insights. Each episode explores what’s at stake and where Iowa goes from here.
Deciding Iowa
Season 2 - Episode 26: Skynet
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We’re not saying it’s Skynet…
…but we are saying AI making calls on local budgets should raise some eyebrows. 🤖
Episode 26 breaks down:
➡️ A $1M+/year AI tool to analyze local spending
➡️ The risk of decisions being reduced to numbers
➡️ And what happens when context gets left out
Also:
👏 A real bipartisan win on child care assistance
So yes—progress and questions… in the same episode.
🎥 Watch “Skynet”
👉 Decide for yourself.
Because not everything that counts… can be counted.
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Hello, Bramer County and all of Iowa. Welcome back to Deciding Iowa. I'm Dr. Shauna LeBrick. I'm a cancer scientist, biochem prof, and House District 57 candidate.
SPEAKER_01And I'm Dr. Emily Bavers. I'm a physician, mama of three, and a health advocate. So we want to first give a shout-out to the legislature for making permanent Iowa's child care assistance program.
SPEAKER_00You know, this program will make Iowa child care workers eligible for the state's child care assistance program, regardless of their income, helping folks who take care of our children make sense.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. It's always good whenever a bipartisan bill that addresses a real need makes it to the governor's desk.
SPEAKER_00Well, on that front, uh you know, the House Republicans are considering spending $1.4 million upfront and close to a million dollars a year after that for three years to employ a publicly accessible AI tool that can analyze spending activity of Iowa counties and over half of the public school districts.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. First and foremost, is the Iowa House even qualified to give fiduciary advice?
SPEAKER_00I don't think so at this point.
SPEAKER_01The idea that this AI tool would give not just an overview of the spending activity, but also try to prioritize independent community uh decisions, which is to say highlight areas where in its mind inefficiencies exist. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, these might include redundant services, or those services flagged for costing relatively too much money.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. On the surface, I get it. We should use every tool available to us to help streamline budgets and wisely use resources. But this approach sounds potentially dangerous in its application since it would likely underestimate the impact of qualitative information.
SPEAKER_00It would.
SPEAKER_01There's usually more to a decision than just numbers, and I worry how this tool could be used to control rather than guide local spending. Finally, spending greater than a million dollars annually in the environment of a deficit seems like throwing more bad checks at the problem.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know, in this matrix and how the AI would evaluate, it's not in the room with the decision makers. I get the desire and the need to identify inefficiencies, I really do. But if the state wants to add more scrutiny to local spending, how about they start by letting our state auditor do their job and track how hundreds of millions of dollars of public money is being spent every year through the voucher program?
SPEAKER_01Great question, Sean. I wonder what their answer to that would be.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Be well, I won't.