Love Actually? More Like HR Actually

🎄 This week on Moose on the Loose, we finally do what needed to be done: re-watch Love Actually as fully formed adults… and absolutely tear it to shreds.

What once felt romantic now feels like a case study in romantic entitlement, emotional affairs, questionable workplace behaviour, and men who think Christmas is a universal get-out-of-jail-free card. From cue cards and clandestine necklaces to CDs bought last minute and grand gestures that should probably come with legal paperwork, we ask the big questions:

Who is the real villain?
Is it ever okay to confess love to your best mate’s wife?
And why does everyone blame women for “ruining Christmas” when men behave badly?

We play Moose, Marry, Avoid, test our sanity with Two Mooses and a Lie, debate whether these moments belong on a Hallmark card or a restraining order, and unpack a very real AITA that proves this movie isn’t just fiction — it’s lived experience.

Festive chaos, dubious life choices, British accents doing a lot of heavy lifting, and the ultimate takeaway:
Never accept a CD when someone else got a necklace.

Merry Christmas, you loose mooses 🎄

Transcript

00:26.58
Jasmin
Jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle. i was going

00:30.55
Cherie
Oh, someone's here Someone's ringing the doorbell.

00:32.60
Jasmin
I was.

00:33.73
Cherie
Someone's

00:34.12
Jasmin
No, it's Santa jingle. It's a sleigh bell. Someone is at the door if that's, yeah, if someone is, if that's someone's Rudolph, then someone, yes, is at the door.

00:38.21
Cherie
ringing the sleigh bell.

00:43.46
Jasmin
and This edition, very late, let's not talk about that. And i just I wanted to put some jingliness over the top, but I, again, with the laziness. So that's what you all got.

00:56.16
Jasmin
You're welcome

00:57.81
Cherie
was a pretty good jingle.

00:59.36
Jasmin
welcome. Yeah, oh, thank

01:00.01
Cherie
There's no complaints here.

01:01.90
Jasmin
Sign on quotes. Love actually is all around, but so are violations and men...

01:10.16
Cherie
Oh, what? Sorry.

01:12.00
Jasmin
HR violations?

01:13.11
Cherie
Oh, okay.

01:14.33
Jasmin
And men who think Christmas absolves them of consequences?

01:14.39
Cherie
That's not what I thought you said.

01:18.46
Cherie
Of course.

01:20.09
Jasmin
And so if you didn't get it, can have a look at love, actually. The... what most popular Christmas movie ever. I'm not looking that up. I think that's probably right though.

01:30.74
Cherie
I would say that has got to be pretty close to being right, surely.

01:35.31
Jasmin
And I feel like, I don't know what's wrong with us. We just watched it going, it's so romantic. And like, we were a lot older to be like, it's so fucking creepy. Like, why?

01:47.59
Cherie
There's a lot that's actually really wrong.

01:51.29
Jasmin
It's just put feminism back 100 years and we're all there just going, I love it. I love it so much. and think we yearn for the kitchen sink, hey.

02:02.04
Cherie
No, I missed everything you just said. that oh big time.

02:05.89
Jasmin
Oh, boo, was saying I think we women yearn for the kitchen sink, but it's set feminism back so much.

02:11.18
Cherie
Put a chain around my ankle. Don't let me out of the house.

02:13.34
Jasmin
Yeah, i know, right? Yeah.

02:16.66
Jasmin
This is very close to what we're already in trouble for with mum, which is suggesting that domestic violence is okay if the guy's rich and pays for a good lifestyle. I'm in big trouble for that one.

02:26.39
Cherie
We did get a lecture. I maintain that that was that was all you.

02:31.57
Jasmin
I said it was a joke. It's clearly not okay. That's the joke. I just kept saying that's the joke and she didn't seem to understand the joke. Okay, well, Moussa, Moussa, Love actually could have so many villains.

02:46.74
Jasmin
Good lord. But we've got to do a little recap, which is tricky because so so many different plots are

02:56.15
Cherie
There's so much going on.

02:57.88
Jasmin
Many, many various plots. I'm just going to hit on a couple of main ones. ah So there's all these different people and they're all having concurrently Christmas love stories that kind of at times touch on each other.

03:11.61
Jasmin
ah One of them is a guy who shows up at his best mate's house and hits on his wife. And says, it's because it's Christmas and I've always loved you. So I decided going to tell you because it's Christmas.

03:22.99
Jasmin
But we can't be together because it's my best mate and he's your husband. But I just wanted you know how I feel. I'm deeply in love with you.

03:28.68
Cherie
That's like so selfish.

03:30.62
Jasmin
So rude.

03:31.42
Cherie
What is she supposed to do with that information except blow up his friendship with his best friend?

03:31.56
Jasmin
What's she supposed to do with it?

03:37.21
Jasmin
And she needed to tell her husband immediately. Immediately. Immediately.

03:40.96
Cherie
Absolutely!

03:42.36
Jasmin
Yeah, that marriage is not going to last. Then we've got the older guy who gives his wife a CD and buys his personal assistant a beautiful necklace after flirting with her in the office.

03:44.44
Cherie
no.

03:53.91
Jasmin
And flirting consists so also of her doing like a scene from um what's that movie with Sharon Stone where she opens her legs up while she's crossing it?

04:03.89
Jasmin
Yeah,

04:05.30
Cherie
Oh, the interrogation one.

04:07.58
Jasmin
yeah you know what I'm talking about though.

04:08.12
Cherie
that i know the scene, but I know it from other things.

04:09.91
Jasmin
God damn it

04:11.68
Cherie
I don't think I've ever actually seen original film.

04:13.66
Jasmin
Okay, everybody knows what we're talking about. She does that, right?

04:15.73
Cherie
Yeah, you

04:16.62
Jasmin
She shows him her breakfast at one point. It's her boss. It's very rude. Then you've got the Prime Minister who falls in love with his one of his assistants and she's a normal, very normal to slim looking woman who throughout the movie is told repeatedly that she's overweight and he finds that endearing, that she's chubby, right?

04:38.81
Cherie
Yeah, but it was fine because it was 20 years ago.

04:38.87
Jasmin
And then we've got

04:44.03
Jasmin
And what else? Then there's like a guy whose wife died and his kid is in love with another kid, but that kid's six years old.

04:49.73
Cherie
It's his stepson too, isn't it?

04:51.77
Jasmin
Yeah, which actually I thought was really nice.

04:52.64
Cherie
Yeah. You're sweet.

04:54.02
Jasmin
They had a really good relationship. What other ones? Oh, the guy that moves overseas, goes to his chalet in France or Spain or wherever it is and falls in love with his cleaner who doesn't speak English, so he learns learns Portuguese so that they can talk to each other.

05:13.62
Jasmin
And after having had zero conversations, marries her.

05:20.21
Jasmin
Correct?

05:21.29
Cherie
So romantic!

05:22.87
Jasmin
Yeah, yeah. I hope they do a little values checklist before they actually tie the knot. Oh, then you' got the guy that wants to have heaps of sex but he's like, one wants to have sex with me because I'm just a disgusting, decrepit Brit.

05:35.10
Jasmin
And if I go to America, everyone will love my accent and I'll get pussy for days.

05:39.06
Cherie
And he was right.

05:39.19
Jasmin
And that is what happens. Yeah, yeah.

05:40.96
Cherie
Yeah. And I think that is what would happen in real life as well. I think that one was probably the most accurate storyline, strangely.

05:48.02
Jasmin
Yeah, look, that one was fine except that he seems like a creeper and then those girls don't realise that everyone in Britain thinks he's just a creeper, you know?

05:54.94
Cherie
Yeah.

05:56.34
Jasmin
Yeah, okay. I'm sure we'll come up with other plots as we go along. But we could play our first game.

06:13.37
Jasmin
Miss Mary Void. Okay, Alan Rickman's character, the guy who cheats on his wife, the Prime Minister who is Hugh Grant and in in his heyday, by the way, and Colin Firth who flies to America.

06:22.45
Cherie
Oh, okay.

06:28.79
Jasmin
no no, no, not Colin Firth who flies to America.

06:31.83
Cherie
I was like, no, you've got that wrong.

06:32.16
Jasmin
Colin, Colin who flies to America for women, for vaginas.

06:39.62
Cherie
Uh, well, yeah, avoid him, Moose Allen Rickman, marry, um,

06:43.16
Jasmin
Really? Oh, my God. Because, hang on, is this a Harry Potter thing?

06:50.78
Cherie
no, why would I want to let Snape touch me?

06:54.01
Jasmin
um He's a good guy, isn't he?

06:54.42
Cherie
you No, he's a double agent, but he's still awful to children.

06:55.54
Jasmin
I haven't actually seen the Harry Potters, but

07:00.73
Jasmin
he has to be to throw them off the scent so that they don't realise that he's actually working.

07:01.14
Cherie
i I will never ever get behind Snape as being okay as a person.

07:08.54
Jasmin
Really? I don't know.

07:08.76
Cherie
yeah there He has his fan club and I am not a part of it.

07:09.04
Jasmin
I haven't seen it.

07:12.77
Jasmin
Okay, I just touched on a strong feeling.

07:13.83
Cherie
I can never agree. He abuses those children. He is horrendous. He's just a bad person.

07:20.09
Jasmin
Well, it's actually his character. So what is it about his character that you want to moose?

07:24.66
Cherie
I don't want to moose him, but I don't have many very good choices. I want to moose and marry Hugh Grant.

07:31.70
Jasmin
Okay, so who do you marry?

07:33.40
Cherie
Hugh Grant.

07:34.10
Jasmin
Yeah, hands down, he's got all the money and everything.

07:35.42
Cherie
Absolutely.

07:36.79
Jasmin
And what do you do with Colin? Avoid him.

07:39.99
Cherie
Yeah, he's weird.

07:40.89
Jasmin
then you just moose him if you go...

07:41.43
Cherie
He's a weirdo.

07:43.10
Jasmin
What? Okay.

07:44.63
Cherie
You don't mean Colin Firth, do you?

07:44.76
Jasmin
These are, outl look, I feel, no, I don't.

07:46.84
Cherie
You mean like the the guy that goes to America and he's a bit of a creep?

07:49.72
Jasmin
I mean the guy that goes to America. I feel like there should be no wrong answers and there should be a safe space for you to say whoever you think without me going, what, what, blah, blah, blah.

07:59.08
Cherie
Oh, it's never really a safe space with you. You're just a psychologist. psychologist

08:04.70
Jasmin
Yeah, yeah. Which one is Harry in the movie? Is it Alan Rickman?

08:12.60
Cherie
Oh, I don't know their names. I know their storylines.

08:16.60
Jasmin
Because this says, this is a chat GPT run sheet, it says round two, Mark with the cue cards, Jamie who learns Portuguese and then Harry's secretary and then it says innocent but involved.

08:30.17
Jasmin
Innocent, my. What?

08:32.15
Cherie
I'm just so confused because there's Colin Firth, whose real name is Colin, and that's not his character's name, but then in Mamma Mia he plays Harry.

08:46.71
Jasmin
Chat TV is never confused. You don't have to worry. It means in this movie, surely that is the slut face that tries to lead him away from his family.

08:53.56
Cherie
Well, you you would have to imagine.

08:57.08
Cherie
Yeah.

08:57.24
Jasmin
Is she innocent just because she's not married to Emma Thompson?

09:02.99
Cherie
Um, that's a tricky one. She knows that he is married to Emma Thompson. She knows that there will be some kind of fallout from that.

09:14.74
Cherie
Maybe it's kind of not necessarily her problem, but it's a bit messy of her.

09:26.36
Cherie
I mean, it is an office thing as well.

09:26.84
Jasmin
okay, I don't,

09:28.52
Cherie
Like, is it morally okay to do your boss?

09:34.74
Jasmin
a power dynamic that's completely inappropriate. Can we talk about how we saw Laura Linney's boobies?

09:37.40
Cherie
Yeah. it

09:41.21
Cherie
Oh, yeah.

09:44.55
Cherie
That's a thing that happens.

09:44.92
Jasmin
Off topic. Yeah, we saw her boobies and then she was like trying to get with that guy who she definitely should have got with. And then she didn't because of her brother.

09:54.88
Jasmin
He's like, would it make him better if you didn't answer the phone?

09:57.11
Cherie
That was such a shame.

09:58.39
Jasmin
or if you

09:58.52
Cherie
he was not patient enough with her.

10:03.48
Cherie
She was caring for him her brother and he had really, you know, um complex needs.

10:03.85
Jasmin
Oh, I think he saw a red flag of what his life would be like.

10:10.90
Cherie
And the guy got really frustrated with her over it, like very quickly.

10:19.08
Jasmin
Oh, well, he's just trying to get laid, isn't he? Like, poor guy.

10:22.95
Cherie
Yeah, but wouldn't you be, like, super, super patient and then you'd be, like, okay, this isn't working for me, like, after...

10:30.14
Jasmin
Okay, forget we just had massive technical difficulties. We're here and we have and another game.

10:43.77
Jasmin
the technical difficulties. I just didn't want to play the whole thing for me. Okay. Was this okay? Is this something you'd find on a Hallmark card or is this something that should result in a restraining order?

10:58.22
Jasmin
So, turning up unannounced to confess love. We know that's wrong. We talked about this. Learning a language for someone you barely know. that restraining order?

11:08.46
Cherie
Oh, Hallmark's gone.

11:10.84
Jasmin
I mean, they both did it.

11:12.85
Cherie
Yeah. And they it's not like they had no like relationship.

11:14.36
Jasmin
Maybe they did for each other.

11:17.27
Cherie
They had sort of had interactions and then there was a vibe there.

11:19.02
Jasmin
He'd seen her in her undies in the lake. Yeah.

11:22.65
Cherie
Yeah.

11:22.62
Jasmin
What about buying your co-worker a better gift than your spouse?

11:27.68
Cherie
Oh, yeah. No.

11:30.39
Jasmin
Restraining order? Yeah,

11:31.77
Cherie
Absolutely restraining order. That was... He will never be forgiven.

11:36.60
Jasmin
it doesn't belong on a Hallmark card, sure. Yeah, know, yeah, yeah.

11:40.37
Cherie
bought my secretary a beautiful necklace. Merry Christmas. Yeah,

11:44.89
Jasmin
Was it okay just because it was the 90s, early 2000s? Emotional cheating minimised. No, of course not.

11:55.13
Cherie
yeah because they did kind of get back together, didn't they?

11:55.78
Jasmin
Okay.

11:58.74
Jasmin
Men being rewarded.

11:59.06
Cherie
Or we're not really sure if they did or they didn't.

12:02.01
Jasmin
Yeah. Men being rewarded for persistence. Okay.

12:07.06
Cherie
but

12:09.82
Cherie
Yeah, nah.

12:11.93
Jasmin
casual fat shaming. I'd say there's a pretty sizable ass there, sir. Yes, huge thighs. Jesus Christ. She should have refused to do that line.

12:22.97
Jasmin
And actually, those lead me into our Am I the Arsehole.

12:23.54
Cherie
absolutely.

12:25.89
Jasmin
You ready? to hear it?

12:27.64
Cherie
I'm ready.

12:30.21
Jasmin
Okay. Am I the Arsehole for refusing to go to Christmas lunch after my husband bought his co-worker an expensive gift and gave me cheap one?

12:42.49
Cherie
Yeah, make it everybody else's problem so he has to explain it. I agree.

12:48.63
Jasmin
Oh, so she's the asshole.

12:48.73
Cherie
Not the asshole. No, not the asshole.

12:52.57
Jasmin
Oh, no, you're like, yeah, do that unhealthy thing I just said. Okay.

12:55.55
Cherie
What? What is on him so he has to explain why you're not at Christmas lunch?

13:03.05
Jasmin
Oh, my God. On Christmas, the real gift turned out to be a cheap CD he clear clearly bought last minute. I don't think he even thought to get her a present. And then he realised, oh,

13:11.03
Cherie
Who even uses CDs anymore?

13:14.77
Jasmin
mean, this might be an old one. um He says she made him feel embarrassed. She made him embarrassed, not he's embarrassed of himself. She made him embarrassed by refusing to go to lunch and made things awkward.

13:23.64
Cherie
ah yeah yeah, of course.

13:26.88
Jasmin
Okay, Reddit overwhelmingly voted that this is literally the Alan Rickman storyline and it is not romantic.

13:36.89
Jasmin
romantic Yeah, but is it? Who's the asshole? Okay.

13:39.96
Cherie
I was going to say this is the perfect one for this week.

13:44.72
Jasmin
Yeah, but it's the same thing. Like the woman ruins Christmas by doing the wrong thing. um Do you reckon that Emma Thompson should have had more of a reaction instead of like being like, no, push it down and don't let your children see, don't let anyone in the world know what's happened here?

14:04.76
Jasmin
This is your problem. You've got to protect the image of the family.

14:08.38
Cherie
Yeah, I mean, to a degree, obviously keeping the kids a little bit sheltered from it, I can understand. But absolutely, she should have like had it out with him instead of having a bit of a quiet cry and moving on.

14:20.02
Jasmin
Moved him out of the house for a bit.

14:24.95
Jasmin
Yeah, okay. Oh, I'm going have a quiet cry thinking about the whole thing. I will never recover. God damn, Alan Rickman, who's now dead.

14:34.39
Cherie
Yeah, he'll never be forgetting.

14:34.62
Jasmin
Sorry,

14:35.95
Cherie
Even, like, in... He's passed away. Like, no disrespect to the dead, but I'm still really mad at him.

14:43.45
Jasmin
Yeah, if he was alive, I'd spit in his face.

14:45.75
Cherie
Yeah, absolutely.

14:51.93
Jasmin
Two Truths and a Lie. No, Two Mooses and a Lie. Okay, number one.

14:54.78
Cherie
No, you blew her cover!

14:57.50
Jasmin
Oh my God, everyone's going to know it's actually Two Truths and a Lie just with one word changed. Okay.

15:05.30
Cherie
That's no more podcast.

15:07.16
Jasmin
Hugh Grant improvised parts of the dancing scene. The cue card confession was meant to be more romantic than controversial.

15:18.90
Jasmin
Alan Rickman chose the CD specifically to seem low effort.

15:25.43
Cherie
ah that one has to be a lie. i don't think he chose the CD specifically.

15:29.64
Jasmin
I don't know where it's getting this information from, but it says the lie is the cue card scene. um

15:36.35
Cherie
Oh, it was supposed to be controversial, was it?

15:39.54
Jasmin
The cue card scene being intentionally uncontroversial. What the fuck does that mean? does it mean? Is it? What?

15:50.38
Cherie
It's just spitting out words now.

15:52.44
Jasmin
It is, I think it's saying it's not not controversial. Oh, my God, another one. The movie was filmed partly without a completed script.

16:03.61
Jasmin
Emma Thompson found the necklace scene emotionally difficult to film. The necklace was reused from another rom-com.

16:14.49
Cherie
What was the first one again?

16:15.67
Jasmin
The movie was filmed partly without a completed script.

16:19.99
Cherie
Oh, it sounds like it could be true, but I don't think it is.

16:25.37
Jasmin
The lie is the necklace was not a reuse.

16:28.61
Cherie
Ah, dang it. I was like, don't they have like big warehouses full of props and things and they just like pull?

16:29.34
Jasmin
I wonder if it was. Yeah. Yeah, they do. I'm not trusting this.

16:35.77
Cherie
Surely.

16:36.44
Jasmin
The movie was filmed partly without a completed script. How does it know that? Okay, three, hard set. The airport scenes were filmed with real travellers. Some actors didn't know how their storylines would end.

16:50.10
Jasmin
The film was originally rated r

16:53.08
Cherie
I think that one's the lie. It wasn't

16:54.41
Jasmin
Fucking obviously, and that's what it's set to heart. I'm telling I'm losing all faith in chat GPT. I may stop using it completely. Oh, I can't stay mad of you i couldn't i'mum it at it.

17:06.69
Cherie
You're so funny. but We don't think for ourselves any anymore. We don't need to.

17:11.54
Jasmin
No, this is like their plan.

17:14.61
Cherie
Oh, yeah.

17:14.70
Jasmin
They've got us completely reliant, and I'm...

17:17.02
Cherie
But I'm sort of wondering, like, if they got the idea from Wall-E or if Wall-E was just incredibly, like, spot on what was going to happen.

17:27.98
Jasmin
Oh, well, I'm pretty sure Disney owns the whole world. So, yeah, surely that's just, yeah, they know exactly know what they're doing.

17:31.21
Cherie
Yeah.

17:36.94
Jasmin
And I'm playing right into their hands. And happily, I'm skipping. If they had their hands out, I'd be skipping towards them. Skip, skip, skip.

17:43.90
Cherie
Well, those fat people just got to sit there and watch telly all day.

17:49.13
Jasmin
Oh, my God. We had this a whole conversation the other day about, like, housing commission people. Like, people. Maybe I

18:02.84
Cherie
You've never stopped yourself short of telling the joke before. It must have been very bad.

18:09.86
Jasmin
It's just I don't think that they would probably say that they would prefer to be able to work, but I feel like they might be the geniuses that have figured it out. They don't work.

18:20.85
Jasmin
They could go to the beach any time. They seem to have enough money to live in a house and eat food. I work all fucking day every day. And I'm...

18:29.59
Cherie
I used to walk to work past this couple who at 8am they were just sitting on their balcony blasting music, having a drink and they looked like no, they just looked so happy they were content

18:40.76
Jasmin
It doesn't sound okay.

18:45.66
Jasmin
They always seem happy. That might be because they're always drunk. And I'm generalising. I don't mean all ah all of those people. aha Look what you've done. Now we've got to dump this whole episode. We can't have this.

18:55.99
Cherie
but

18:56.30
Jasmin
This this says...

18:57.58
Cherie
We're dumping the podcast anyway.

18:57.78
Jasmin
um the

18:59.39
Cherie
You've uncovered us before. with

19:01.50
Jasmin
yeah Yeah, this has gone far enough, hasn't This says that the episode vibe should be festive chaos, dubious life choices, British accents doing a lot of heavy lifting.

19:14.84
Jasmin
Everyone is either in love, cheating, emotionally stunted or Keira Knightley.

19:21.48
Cherie
She's in love, isn't she?

19:25.18
Jasmin
And then it says, um quick Christmas check-in. Are you thriving or crying into a tub of quality streets?

19:32.82
Cherie
Oh, no one gave me any quality streets this year I'm crying into an empty tub.

19:35.29
Jasmin
No, I know. think people are leaning away from chocolate. But anyway, we don't. This is totally a side thing.

19:40.76
Cherie
I lean towards chocolate.

19:45.21
Cherie
Just so everyone knows. Chocolate will always be well received.

19:47.20
Jasmin
I just want to make sure wanna to make sure that we haven't missed any of the plots. What about, no, yeah, no, he was the husband of the, what about the Mr Bean thing?

20:00.15
Cherie
Oh yeah, Rowan Atkinson.

20:00.28
Jasmin
What the was that guy doing?

20:01.99
Cherie
Yeah. he's He's... Well, Mum said that he was like the good guy, like the guardian angel or whatever. I don't know. Was he making it worse for Ellen Rickman or better?

20:12.43
Jasmin
Oh.

20:16.90
Jasmin
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think he was stopping from buying the present. We didn't talk about the rock star who got to number one and got his dick out.

20:23.95
Cherie
of course. Yeah.

20:27.45
Jasmin
And we didn't talk about Billy Bob Thornton, the US president, who goes, check out the pipes on her.

20:27.74
Cherie
And rightfully so.

20:34.10
Cherie
ah

20:36.53
Jasmin
This movie's

20:36.62
Cherie
There was a time when that would have been considered a ridiculous thing for a president to say. Mr. President!

20:42.36
Jasmin
ah I was going to say there would be a time when that would be like a genuine compliment and like if someone said that to me, I'd be like, oh, thank you. Not get your fucking eyes off me.

20:53.66
Jasmin
yeah

20:58.39
Jasmin
Well, I will admit i have not watched this movie for the last three Christmases and I used to drink some Baileys, wrap presents and watch Love Actually and I think the change is A, I don't respect the movie anymore.

21:12.15
Jasmin
And B, Matt now wraps all the Christmas presents and so I have no need of something to do whilst the wrapping is occurring.

21:17.35
Cherie
Oh yeah, I didn't wrap the Christmas presents this year either and I didn't watch Love actually.

21:23.22
Jasmin
it's It's losing its cult following.

21:24.85
Cherie
a weird Christmas.

21:26.30
Jasmin
This is a ripe place for us to film a Christmas movie and have it fill this void.

21:31.90
Cherie
yeah Everyone respected each other.

21:33.57
Jasmin
Tell you she.

21:35.70
Cherie
Merry Christmas.

21:35.83
Jasmin
you should say yeah you would respect each other that you and You should say, Jasmine, please never say a ripe moment ever again.

21:44.15
Cherie
Unless there's a banana involved. Then no. Or an was a good one.

21:50.46
Jasmin
got, this is my sign-off quote, remember, love actually might be all around, but so are red flags. Question the grand gesture, respect yourself and never accept a CD when someone else got a necklace.

22:06.84
Cherie
You just have to check with them first. Oh, you got me a CD. What did you get? Everybody else.

22:10.90
Jasmin
Yeah, yeah, yeah. don't know if this is good or bad. I need but to rank it somewhere.

22:15.38
Cherie
is There's something better in there for me.

22:18.58
Jasmin
Well, there's only one thing left to do and that's to figure out out of this whole movie, who was the villain?

22:25.56
Cherie
Look, it's supposed to be Alan Rickman, I think, but I'm going for cue card guy.

22:31.70
Cherie
Bad friend award. Everyone in marriages, like they, know, they have their moments and maybe Alan Rickman did the wrong thing and he is kind of a villain.

22:42.42
Cherie
That cue card guy. That was messy of him.

22:47.06
Jasmin
I tell you what, ChatGPT says that our Alan Rickman is the honorary villain in chief.

22:52.88
Cherie
Mm-hmm.

22:53.82
Jasmin
But the real villain is a concept of romantic entitlement. um Grand gestures excuse emotional harm. The idea that men's feelings matter more than women's boundaries and the assumption that Christmas equals automatic forgiveness. Is this what that movie was trying to get across? I don't think so. i reckon if they were going, look how good we are. We're so romantic.

23:15.49
Cherie
Oh, for sure. For sure.

23:17.88
Jasmin
Then you've got runner-up villains. Mark with the cue cards. He's the top second one.

23:21.98
Cherie
Knew it.

23:22.77
Jasmin
Weaponised vulnerability and zero accountability. Was she vulnerable? She didn't seem vulnerable.

23:27.67
Cherie
She seemed quite receptive, actually. She's

23:29.53
Jasmin
Yeah, she was smiling at him. and She didn't tell her husband after she realised that all he was doing was filming her up close, which is creepy.

23:33.51
Cherie
very young, though.

23:39.25
Jasmin
Then we've got Colin, the um the guy that went to America. Fetishisation disguised as confidence. I don't think there's anything wrong with fetishising. is That's fine.

23:50.46
Cherie
If there's someone with a British accent, they should expect to be fetishised by me specifically.

23:56.88
Jasmin
Yeah, I was going to say, he's doing the fetishizing. The Necklace, pure narrative evil.

24:04.61
Jasmin
like that necklace has really got to chat GPT. And then Christmas, emotionally manipulative time portal where bad behavior is excused. i need I need one of those. I suddenly like Christmas more.

24:16.69
Cherie
agree.

24:17.27
Jasmin
Yeah, right.

24:18.14
Cherie
The rest of the year is boring.

24:18.58
Jasmin
Okay. Well, I think. ah probably We're probably good for for Christmas and we'll next time have a crack at a New Year's one.

24:30.64
Cherie
Yeah, sounds good.

24:32.01
Jasmin
Cool. Okay, thanks.

24:33.43
Cherie
Merry Christmas.

24:34.51
Jasmin
Merry Christmas, Mooses.

24:36.64
Cherie
Bye.

24:37.65
Jasmin
Bye.

24:43.05
Jasmin
God damn it.