ASTRO CHAT: Ep 1

ASTRO CHAT: Ep 1 💜

Welcome back to Astro Chat — where we sit down, tune into the energy, and talk through what’s really going on in the stars (and in our lives) 🌙✨

In this episode, we’re diving into some of the major upcoming transits that are shaping a whole new era — including Uranus moving into Gemini, Neptune and Saturn in Aries, Jupiter entering Leo, and Pluto in Aquarius.

These aren’t just small shifts — these are timeline-changing energies, and we’re breaking them down in a way that feels real, intuitive, and easy to understand.

We talk about:

✨ What these transits actually mean (without the overwhelm)

✨ How they might show up emotionally, mentally, and collectively

✨ The energy we’re personally feeling right now

✨ What excites us, what intimidates us, and what feels like a reset

Plus, as always, we sprinkle in our usual astro tangents, observations, and moments that feel a little too real 😂

This episode is your reminder that you’re not imagining the shift —

you’re living through it.

And you don’t have to understand everything to move with it.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Hello.

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Hello. Welcome, guys. Jason.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Hello. Welcome to another episode of Titan True, the astrology podcast hailing from the Lunar Lounge.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

We're two Cancer Risings. This podcast is our safe space, our soul voice, and our way of staying grounded in this cosmic world. We're gonna have a little astro chat today. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

So today we're kind of chilling a little bit. We're gonna be a little less structured. We're just gonna kind of chat. Um, yeah. One thing that's been important for us is just like being our authentic selves. And like today, we're just feeling a little bit more chatty, a little less structured, and we just kind of want to hang out and vibe. We're just vibing today.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

Yeah. I'm excited to talk about some of these things that we we're gonna get into though. Um, yeah, and going forward in our podcast, where there's gonna be episodes like this where we're just leisurely talking about certain subjects, interesting transit. So that's what this episode is gonna be about. Um, yeah, so I think, yeah, there's gonna be major transits and collective shifts this year beyond.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Yeah. So you can think of this episode as an astrological forecast. We check the weather sometimes before we like start our days. Think of this as like what is going to be happening in the cosmos um coming up, or maybe some of the things that have recently just happened. Yes. Um, we're gonna zoom out, we're looking at the bigger cycles shaping not just our personal lives, but the collective.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

And keep in mind too, right? That transits transits aren't predictions necessarily, because there's no transit that's gonna tell you like this specifically is gonna happen exactly on this day, on this time, right? They're more so of like energies, would you say, right? Like invitations. What is maybe like a theme that you can learn as we enter this like transit or like go through this transit, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:21

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

Absolutely, absolutely, and I think I kind of like to look at it also, it's like a map as well. Like it kind of will tell you the direction, but it doesn't tell you exactly what's going on on the path, you know. Yeah, there's a will and a lot more going on, you know.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Yeah. So you can take a moment to to pause and ground yourself, think about like where are you in your life right now? It's part of a larger rhythm. Where we are in our lives right now are part, it's part of a larger rhythm. There's things, there's collective energies and shifts that really like color or set the tone for like what's happening in our personal lives.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Yeah. And also, obviously, um, I think collectively as well, you know, you know, and it's like it's a hard time in a lot of different ways. With you know, the powers that be, people in power. And it's like I always like to, I have to remind myself, like, if I'm struggling with something, it's like, wait, there's actually a lot going on that's out of my control collectively. So some of some of these outer planets, when they're moving and they're transiting in and out of spaces, it's like a collective shift as well. We're all in this together, you know, for better or for worse, right? There's some people we're here with that are dangerous. Um, anyway, just don't judge yourself if there's transits that are coming up and it's like, trust me, it's collective, and a lot of people are feeling the same way you are in their own way. So just don't judge yourselves. Um, so should we get into how to listen to transits? Did we yeah?

SPEAKER_01 4:20

How do we listen to transits? How would you break that down?

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Um, so like I kind of mentioned, outer planets are collective shifts. So, like Pluto, Uranus, and Neptune, because they're so slow, they're generational. So, like most millennials are have Pluto and Scorpio, you know, and a lot of you know, uh a lot of us are born with Neptune in uh Capricorn. So it's like a collective kind of transit. Inner planets are your personal experiences, so they're faster. So that's the sun, that's the moon, that's Mars, Venus, Mercury. Um what am I missing, Sin? Uh Saturn.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

Sunday. Oh, Jupiter. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto are the three correct. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:20

Yes. So um transits transits activate your natal chart differently. So basically, how to anchor this down. So don't ask what will happen. Ask what is this inviting me to become? That's fascinating. That's really fascinating. So I kind of want to maybe get into is there like a transit right now? Would you say maybe in the past year, Sin, or maybe that are about to start, that might be calling you to do something different or new, or having you show up differently? Um, it could be like Jupiter and Cancer, or like Pluto and Aquarius, or all the planets that were in Aries last month, or you know, Saturn going your Saturn return and Pisces, or just in general. Do you feel like you're being called to like show up differently in any way?

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Many areas. Yeah, I think like right now, what's been interesting is like a like my shift in friendships which we both have experienced recently. Some like interesting things coming up, right? Yeah, yeah. What do you think what do you think like transit or transits have kind of influenced that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

Word moment, I just can't wait to talk about this. So I think it's Uranus, right? Gemini, yeah, like leave me. No, so right now, like we talk all the time, guys. So let me tell you. So the pet recently she's had a lot of like shifts with like friends and you know, whatever, but yeah, Uranus is at the 29th degree of tort. So that means it's at its like biggest, most grand, like it's to going out with a hoorah. It's like so all these different things as far as relationships are coming up right now because it's like literally moving into Gemini, and so uh that's what I think. Um, and then also uh Venus has been in Taurus as well. So Venus is relationships too. So I feel like having Venus and Uranus together, it's like shifting stuff, you know, yeah, especially because Venus is also about like balance and like justice, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Like, and it's kind of like if it's not if something is not balanced, especially with that Uranus energy, it's like, oh it's out, out of here, bye. Like you can't stay.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

Oh, that's a good way to think about it. It's almost like Uranus is kind of supporting Venus in an actionable way, yeah. Like it's kind of like for better or for worse, like we're really for better, yeah. That's the great destructor.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:16

Oh wow, that's huge. I would say the same on my end. I think there's just been like kind of like drama with like old friends or like just friends, like their drama, and then I'm having to put out a fire or something recently, and it's like, what and what's going on? Old friends like reaching out, it's like yeah, other people's stuff right now, kind of in the atmosphere, yeah. Yeah, so I think we're that's having me show up differently because in the past I think I would be more wrapped up in their mix, but now I'm like, no, actually. So that's not gonna happen. Uh yeah. So not happening, you know. So um, I guess we can get into Uranus and Gemini.

unknown 9:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

Yeah. Let's start with that transit. So Uranus and Gemini from April 25th. So yesterday, Uranus entered Gemini. Oh, yes. Yeah, that was literally yesterday. Yay! Uranus, oh, that means we're free. We forgot. We're free, we're free from the shower.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

All the fixed signs. So if you have Aquarius, Taurus, Scorpio, Leo, Uranus isn't like heavily um affecting you right now.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Yeah. So we get a little breathing room, which is lovely. Yes, and Uranus will be in Gemini um from now until August 3rd, 2032. That's yeah, that's a long, that's a long ass time. How many it's 2026? I'm like, what year is it? Okay, that's that's like six, seven.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Yeah, yeah. Six, seven years.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Oh my god. So this seven year, yeah, the seven year cycle that started yesterday is gonna um shake up uh remember Uranus.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

Well, sometimes I get a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

I'm trying to remember like personal planets versus outer planets. Because Saturn is an outer planet, no?

SPEAKER_00 10:55

It's inner. It's inner.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

It's inner.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

It's like the slowest inner planet.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

Okay, it's kind of like in that, okay, gotcha. Um well here's anyways, here's how we what we have to look forward to in for this transit. It's gonna maybe shake up some communication, transportation, and education. Um, but it also promotes artificial intelligence advancements, tech industry disruptions, and a shift toward intellectual, fast-paced networking. So we can think of this theme as the evolution or the revolution of the mind. What are your thoughts about that?

SPEAKER_00 11:40

I love that. I love, I'm very excited for this because uh like and and like everyone, like again, like go on astroseek.com, put in your birth time info so that way you can see where Uranus is gonna be on your chart. So for Cancer Rising specifically, it'll be in our 12th house. And that's that's oh, you know this house very well, sin. But the 12th house is very much of the subconscious. To me, Uranus is gonna help us become more strong mentally and like more decisive, I guess, in a way, or just stronger. Yeah, what do you think? Like, I feel like it's gonna be a good thing, like it's gonna wipe out shit, maybe help us be more mindful.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Yeah, yeah. It made me, it actually made me think about what we're stepping into and like what we're stepping out of. Because I think that might be interesting to look at too. So Uranus has been in Taurus, right? That started in 2018, and that seven-year transit in Taurus brought radical and unexpected change to foundations, money, and personal values. So it forced disruptions of stability to create new and more sustainable ways of living. Wow. So that's interesting because I feel I can feel that. I can definitely feel that.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Like I got chills right now.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Yeah. But what's great is like hopefully, if we've like done what we needed to do during that time, we are like feeling more comfortable and sustainable in our new ways and from the things that we've learned from Uranus being in Taurus. So I just, yeah, I wanted to segue really quickly to just talk about where we've been versus where we're going. Um I'm excited to leave that where it's at. I don't need my, especially as a Taurus, I don't need my stability, my material comfort, my finances being all shaken up and like disrupted from Uranus. So I'm glad that we're moving away from Uranus.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

And and networks. So I think because our it's in our 11th house, so it's friendships, networks, yeah, uh, luck, because the 11th house is luck as well. Um yeah, so disrupted like all of that, which is fascinating because you know me, and like since 2018, all of these like really bizarre things out of my hands. So it's just an aha moment, literally right now. Yeah, it's like, oh, this is like really affected or changed my life.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

Uranus in Taurus.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

So I'm excited to see what it has to do with J and Gemini. Come on, yeah. I like it.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

I like, I think I'll like it better in Gemini.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

So the sh oh, so spiritual layer. Uranus and Gemini asked, what thoughts are truly yours? Hmm, maybe help us be more. It'll maybe it'll influence decisiveness, right? To to kind of know, or maybe like collective versus personal. Like, are you thinking you're doing something? Yeah, because you think you should, or because you're being told, or society's saying that, or is it is it truly your truth?

SPEAKER_01 15:22

Yeah, right, and all exactly, because I think there's so much happening in society right now. There's information cut like coming at us from all directions, crazy stuff. Like we talked about all the people that are dying right now, yeah. So that is dying, being killed. Yeah, because those are two different, right? Like, crazy shit is happening right now.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

Like one of them discover a woman discover like access to like renewable energy or like uh just like energy that won't need to be paid, like bought anymore, like it uh like it, like a like an like it makes its own energy source or something. Do you do you know what I'm talking about? I don't know about I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

I've been seeing a lot of the like UFO okay related stuff, like maybe yeah, but either way, lots lots there on. So I think like we'll have to be really rooted in our truth and what we know to be true because there's gonna be a lot of I don't want to say distractions, but like shit is not gonna stop. Like if anything, it's gonna just ramp up all of the stuff happening. So we have to really figure out like our values. If we if we don't, if we're not clear on that already, I think now is the time to really, you know, get rooted in that while shit is kind of chaotic.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

That's huge. I think Uranus can help with that, you know, because Uranus being co-ruler of like Aquarius, it's very like that gives like it'll probably like if you resist that, it's gonna Uranus will influence situations to make it so you have no choice, yeah. To be your authentic self or to think authentically and to live authentically. Um, so the shadow of Uranus and Gemini, anxiety, mental overwhelm, fragmented attention, disconnection from the body. I'm like, well, I live that way in general. So thanks. Just kidding. Gift, mental liberation, innovation, new ways of connecting globally. That's exciting. New ways of connecting globally. Um, you you know, I use AI for certain things. I'm excited to see what you know what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that is Uranus. Um gosh, should we get into Neptune in Aries?

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 18:07

That's a new a new shift as well. Yeah, interesting. The theme is spiritual awakening through identity.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Hmm. Neptune is spiritual, it's very spiritual to me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

So when will what when is that transit?

SPEAKER_02 18:28

Neptune and Aries.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

I think it literally just went in there. Let me get the exact date, guys, because we have so many transits going on. Oh I have it here too. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

Yeah, on the our little outline. Yeah, Neptune and Aries. Yeah, January 26th, 2026 through May 21st, 2038.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

We all have the refreshment, yeah. Oh shoot.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Oh, I do need to refresh our little outline, guys. There we are. Um wow, that's a long time.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

That is a long time.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

So the core energy is dissolving and redefining the self, spiritual, individuality, new forms of leadership and identity. This is interesting. This is a very interesting combination, Neptune and Aries.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

It is very that's what I was thinking. Like it's kind of giving two opposite ends literally of the spectrum. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

I feel like Neptune is so not action-oriented, and Aries is the most action-oriented, so it's like combining the two is like very like Neptune is so watery to me.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

Yeah, so watery, watery, dreamlike, and just like yeah, not very fast at all. Like you're almost like floating, and Aries is like drive, yeah, charging. So that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

So it's almost like Neptune and Aries might actually be able to get things done. Like whatever, whatever Neptune is trying to do, perhaps it can find like the energy and action it needs to actually follow through on a different spiritual perspective or like a better creating a better world, you know?

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Yeah, exactly. It says a long-term promising a long-term shift towards spiritual, artistic, and dreamy action. So I think this is I think this will be great for us given who we are as spiritual women. Like, yeah, this is gonna be great.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

I also wonder how I wonder if this is gonna influence like music and art. Like, I'm curious how like collectively, we'll just have to keep an eye on it. Like, there's obviously so there's different trends, right? I'm just curious. I feel like there's gonna be a shift. Like maybe things will be a little more hippy-dippy again or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

Yeah, one of the things it mentions is the rise of personal spiritual paths and having less rigid systems, which I think like that's great. I think this is gonna be real, especially right now, we these rigid and patriarchal systems that like currently run our society. It's like stepping away from that, having some of those dissolved. I'm like, is this the matriarchy?

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Like, is this I'm like, and keep people keep talking about it. Matriarchy. Matriarchy, matriarchy. Yeah. You know, men are. Like I've seen some spiritual men online saying, you know, I could be, honestly. Um, so the shadow of Neptune and Aries, uh, confusion about identity, following false leaders, escapism disguised as empowerment. Um, with and with um awareness, guys, the shadow is just, you know, it could be there, but don't worry about it. You know, be aware. Yeah, be aware. Um, that's interesting though. Um, following false leaders. That's like our government, basically. False response. I was just thinking that maybe it's like this transit can bring into light that these are false leaders here, you know, our career.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

I mean, I think that's what's happening now with the files, with all of the stuff coming out about like the elite, you know, these few families that are really in power behind the running the show, right? We don't that's the whole rabbit hole, but like, yeah, correct.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

That's a whole rabbit hole. Uh won't we won't get into today, guys. But that is 100% true. And the gift is net inspired action, courage guided by intuition, spiritual rebirth of identity with Neptune and Aries. I really like courage guided by intuition. That's really good because it intuition is so beautiful, but sometimes you need courage, especially now. Yeah, especially now, we need to be courageous. Um, we need to be courageous, and then spiritual rebirth of identity, that's really big too. Um and if you're a cancer rising, it'll be in your 10th house, house of career. So the next God, since till 2032, we're gonna have, was that what it was? Or 20?

SPEAKER_01 24:05

Yeah, it's uh 2032, yep.

SPEAKER_00 24:08

2032, 14-year cycle.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Um no, sorry, next in Aries, right?

SPEAKER_00 24:14

2038. I'm getting confused.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Next in Aries, 2038, 12-year cycle.

SPEAKER_00 24:21

2038, y'all. So it's gonna be in our Cancer Rising's house of career. So for us, this perhaps I think will like make us more courageous spiritually, and it combines spirituality with career to some extent.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

I'm excited. I'm really excited for this, yeah. Me too. Um right. Well, our next chanted that we're gonna talk a little bit about is Saturn in Aries. And Saturn is already in Aries, it started in uh February 13th, 2026, and it will be there um until April 12th, 2028. So think of this as the discipline of the self. So Saturn should bring some structure and responsibility to the trail-blazing sign of Aries, prompting us to build firmer personal foundations. Yes, lots of Aries energy.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

Lots of Aries energy, guys. Yeah, lots of Aries energy. Um I'm excited for this. I'm excited for Saturn and Aries because it's in again, Cancer Rising is in our 10th house. I feel like Saturn takes away, but it also rewards. So I feel like we're gonna be reaping some rewards, I think, as far as like status, being in the public eye, or you know, uh career, public-facing life. I think it's gonna be really uh really good. Um, but also we're gonna the accountability for your actions is gonna be huge. Um, yeah, and also I think whatever is gonna be happening these next two years, it's really gonna show who like our our most authentic self and who we are as far as our identity. Like we're really sealing it in. Like, you know how artists, like recording artists, change their vibes, but then at a certain point, like I feel like Rihanna became Rihanna at a certain point in her career. She hasn't changed that. Like every art, like I feel like in like the same with all of us, I feel like Saturn Aries is gonna really help us help us refine and know our identity, like who we are, and Saturn is like gonna ask of us to really show up as that and make a decision, yeah. Right now, these next years. So after this transit, I think it's gonna be really solidified, if that makes sense, as far as identity. Um and how do we make how does our identity how is the identity established? It's by our actions and our thoughts, uh-huh. And where we put our time in. So I feel like Saturn is very gonna be uh every little thing matters right now because it's gonna form an identity that's gonna be you for a long time.

unknown 27:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Our habits, our intentions, what we're how we're choosing to like our day, how are we living our day-to-day lives? Like, we have power over those things, and some of that obviously has to do with like privilege, right? Like, yep, you know, it's really interesting because like the free will thing, like, that's a whole rabbit hole as well. I'm trying to like stay focused, but um let's get into it, girl. We can't. Yeah, I mean, so for me, I think about it a little bit as like we you and I specifically, right? We um we're able to in some ways like choose what we want to do with our lives, with our future. Like, I think we've been really blessed with um some like gifts and talents, and like we have that confidence to be like, this is what I'm gonna do. This is who I want to be, this is how I'm going to live. Um, and so in some ways, I think like the families that we were raised with, right? Like who our brothers are, like that has helped develop some of those things. And not everyone has that opportunity, but also that makes me think of like in a from a spiritual perspective, we're all here to do different things, to learn different things. And I think that has to do with, you know, we've talked a little bit about like signing up for what we've signed up for somewhere, somehow, like being like, This is what I'm gonna experience in this human life, you know, which is so hard sometimes to sit with.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

Yeah, you know, because it's like no, I I like just as a little no, like I no one's better than another person. But it's like there's people in the Middle East right now, just like me and you, young women, that are kind of like, you know, is there gonna be a missile flying into my neighborhood tomorrow? Can I even go to work? Can I go to the store? Like, it's like just so crazy to think about how we do come in to to learn certain things. And it's like just that comparison, it's like grateful, but it's like it's hard knowing that yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

And if you're someone who believes in multiple lives and and incarnations, like who knows what are the other lives that we've lived that we've you know what I mean? Like perhaps we've had a a life that was like really, really hard. I'm sure, you know, I I don't think it's either of our first rodeos. We've talked about that. I don't mind, you know, I'm I think a lot of especially if someone may be religious in a more rigid way, then like maybe you disagree, maybe this isn't your perspective or your point of view, but um I especially because I believe that like energy doesn't die, it's like renewed, it's recycled. So yeah, I just say that to say um it's hard to not compare lives, but like also I don't think any of anything should take away from our current experience and the fact that like we very likely have experienced very hard 100% human right, like lives.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

All of us, yeah, every every everyone has, and it's like I don't know, I think that's one of the I'm so grateful that like just my spiritual or our spiritual path led to like a more open kind of perspective from how we like grew up. Because I think me like just understanding it this way, it helps you just be there for others more.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

You know, I'm not just judgy. Obviously, there's certain things I will 100% go hard on and be very judgmental. There's a few things, you know, when it comes to like children and like women, like but it's like just even being in LA, I live in Los Angeles and it's like I see certain things and people, and it's like, but wait a second, hold on. You know, what I could have been in their shoes at a certain point, yeah, you know, so it's very like it's what's the word, empathy am I reaching for?

SPEAKER_01 32:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

Yeah. I'm just glad that there are and it's and it's as healers, right? It's not a closed, rigid box. It's like, wait a second, I can ground this out. I can actually see you, your heart through all this shit.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

You know?

SPEAKER_00 32:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

Well, and we're all and if we're all one, right? Then that like deepens it even more. Like, yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like looking into like a different version of yourself when you see another person, right? Like struggling with, like, we all have struggles. We all they they look differently, but like it's kind of hard to not have empathy for other people when you frame it that way. We're like, I try to keep in mind, like, we're all here to learn some shit. I don't know what you signed up for. I don't, you know, I'm still trying to figure out what I signed up for. I know some of it, but like who knows what else, you know, that I don't figure out, you know, what other like major themes. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

And some people, I don't want to speak for other one everyone, but from my growth, like growing up, not my family specifically, but it's like if one is following like a strict, like religious kind of cause and effect idea where it's like, well, you sinned or you live a life of sin. So that's why you're this, or you live like this, or this happened, and it's like, meh. I don't think it's that simple. Just just don't don't sin. Follow these 10 rules, right? Coming from a sinner.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

It's like coming from a sinner who has sinned just as much, maybe even more. More. Right. We've got, I mean, we've we went to church together for those listening, okay. We're not gonna, I'm not gonna say what church and where, but baby, just know that some of our leaders of the church, okay, that we were supposedly supposed to be looking up to and following after like crazy guy guys, like literally on the stage making fun of gay men while keeping a predator as a music instructor. Talk about it, talk about it. And I mean, like, really, though, this all circles back to and this is this might piss a couple of people off. Maybe we're gonna lose some a couple supporters, which is fine, because that's not what this was ever about in the first place. But organized religion, most more organized religions are rooted in patriarchy in one way or or another. So, of course, a male leader of the church is going to protect another male over young girls, children, children, right? If we're gonna really like yeah, a child. So unfortunately, and I'm not saying that this is every church, I'm not saying that's all Christianity, however, there is a patriarchal structure in many religions, in in many like churches, and like it's yeah, it's it's unfortunate, but it's it's unfortunate, it's unfortunate.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

So and it ties into like if we because like we established Sun and I established like a more open spiritual perspective, yeah, thinking about and seeing a person judge someone for their sexuality, literally on a stage making fun of their sexuality. We understand that's just how they came to live their experience. Regardless, it's all flu like who cares? Who's somewhere? Like at the root of it, why it just doesn't make sense. And so they think it's wrong because in a book, it has a couple lines that says whatever, that's not empathy. How can you heal? How can you help people? How will people feel safe coming to you if that's how you see the world? So basically, what we're tying, I'm tying this in, guys, saying like I think Saturn and Aries, Neptune and Aries is helping solidify the spiritual identity that you've already kind of established. And I think that um the fake leaders aspect of Neptune and Aries, it's gonna bring into light things that Sin and I have experienced already. And um also if you're in a space where you do go to like a church, that's fine. We're not judging that. That's your experience. We're just saying that the truth is it is in a box, and they're you know, having a perspective where we came here all to do different things, and there's no right or wrong way, and so I we it's just a fact, like it like having a more expansive mindset, you do have more empathy because it's not so much cause and effect, black and white thinking, yeah, you know, so that's just basically what that's about.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Um that self-mastery is so huge, too. Because I just wanted to add that, like unfortunately, like the job has been done so well when it comes to in like instilling fear in us as a society and collectively, right? This concept of heaven and hell, if you sin, you're gonna like as children, right? We're like this stuff is like pounded into us, a lot of us, right? And so if you don't ever have like the opportunity to kind of think outside of that, then a lot of people are still living in fear, whether it's conscious or not, right? So it's I don't know, I say that to say I kind of lost my chain of thought there, but the confidence and the leadership rooted in integrity, the self-mastery is gonna be huge here because it's gonna have to be stronger than the fear that has been instilled in us. The like, oh what but I'm gonna go to hell, but like I can't think this way because like the Bible says this and like my religion, like your ability to think for yourself and to operate from your own intuition. I got chills, period, yes, is gonna have to be stronger than all of that, or you're going to stay where you're at. There is gonna be no expansion.

SPEAKER_00 39:36

There is gonna be no expansion, and I wanna say, and I don't mean this lightly, this is like being in war. Oh, yeah. This is like Star Wars. This is like why do you think churches get tax write-offs and society here influences going and supports because these thinking, this thinking helps people stay in line to a capitalistic patriarch system? You know what I mean? So it's like if we keep them in line and they know they're sinners, this is just like a horrible, like not like sin nerds, like that's not like uh not the movie, but like the actual term, it doesn't feel good.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

I'm a sinner. Yeah, so it just all feeds into this control.

SPEAKER_00 40:37

So it's what you're saying is on point. It is it's more and the language, right?

SPEAKER_01 40:44

You even just said like the sinners, with there's so much of our language, and language is our spells. That's we're speaking things, right?

SPEAKER_00 40:54

We're spelling, like it's literally it's spelling, literally spelling speaking is spelling, spells and action, and even like I've seen a lot of people start to really break down our language from a spiritual lens.

SPEAKER_01 41:11

And you know, I kind of get the jokes of like the like Hotep, like grand rising, like blah blah blah. But honestly, when you really break it all down and you really are intentional with your words, it does make you want to stop saying good morning. Like, wait, can you tell me about good morning? What's that? I was literally like speaking to an unhoused woman who's very spiritual, and she was like, she mentioned, and I've heard this before, not just like from her, but mourning, right? Like when we mourn, that's a negative thing. We're sad. That's we're mourning. There's nothing good about mourning, the act of mourning, something, some won, the loss. Like, so that is one of the reasons why people choose to say, like, grand rising. I, you know, I'm not a grand rising type of bitch right now. Maybe I will be, but for me, I'm kind of like happy Friday, happy's day. Like, you know, I I say that happy Sunday, yes, because there is nothing good about mourning. Morning. Morning. M-O-U-R-S the same now. It is the same, it's the same though, because what is a mourning?

SPEAKER_00 42:25

It's really it's like we weeping, it's like a sadness of loss.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 42:33

Which is crazy because like morning, the morning time, it's a fresh start, it's a new day.

SPEAKER_01 42:39

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Miss Aurora, the goddess of daylight. She's bringing in the day. Like, come on, fresh start. Grand rising, right? You know, it's so that's so funny. I have always associated because like, shout out to my old friend Steven. You know, Steven in Virginia. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. For years, he'd be like, Grand Rising. And then Raven says, I'm like, what? You know, and I'm like always a certain kind of person would say it. I'm like, is this some hote top stuff? I think if it's gotten that. It's like not just that. It's like spiritual.

SPEAKER_01 43:17

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

But I was like, so I didn't understand it for a long time.

SPEAKER_01 43:21

It's like one of those things that's like, if you know, you know, though. If you know you know.

SPEAKER_00 43:28

So spelling, guys, saying sinners, I am a sinner, or like I I am weak. I can't do it with do anything without this, I don't know, acting a certain way because a book told me to. Um you know what it's like, someone might look at like my life and be like, oh, you're in this situation or this isn't working out because you know, you're not following these rules that are in this book.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

The the same rules, by the way. That was a big thing.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

That's whole black people, they're freaking, you know, we came into this earth wrong.

unknown 44:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:07

You know, right?

SPEAKER_01 44:08

There's so many things. Well, I was referring to like the Ten Commandments, which were, I mean, some call, some say stolen, some say borrowed, some say influenced. Either way, they're not original thoughts. The 22 Laws of Ma'at, if you'd like to look into, that's where it was taken out of the world. That's where it started. I'll give off my high worse.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

Well, because Moses was from Egypt, too. So it's like came from, right?

SPEAKER_02 44:51

Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

I need to do some. I need to look into that. That's fascinating to me. Yeah, it's all I well, you know me. I love ancient Egypt. I love yeah, all of that. And I mean, it's the last thing I'll say on this subject is I think that it's it's it saddens my heart when I hear especially like black people condemn other black people for not being religious, um, because it when you really break it down and think about it logically, does that mean that before this religion was forced upon us, that like all of our ancestors were just going to hell? Yeah, go at world, they're all just going to hell in a handbasket. They're all just they were all just sinners, they were all just demonic. No. Our ancestors were living one with the earth, okay? Many of our ancestors were honoring the earth and the sun and the cycles and the animals. And the animals living in community, not this really cold individual, like individualistic society that we live in now where we're not one with our neighbors and breaking bread together. Like, and and and I will say that there are some really beautiful things about religion, about organized like some of these, right? There's 100% really beautiful. But I will I just want to add that it's sad. A lot of our ancestors had it right, and they were, you know, they were doing things that like a lot of people would deem as demonic or like of the devil because it's different from like what has been forced on the upon us and now called the right, you know, the right thing. And like this is how like Jesus like like it's like yeah, what about everything before that? Right. What about everything BC? Like it was just all like it's just it's it's really crazy when you think about it logically.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

Logically and think logically, right? And number one, we're not knocking Jesus, Christ's consciousness, that is a thing. Yeah, we're not doing that.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

100% 100%.

SPEAKER_00 47:22

But if we think about it logically even further, growing up Christian, right? Um surrounded by you know the community in that way, if you believe in Jesus Christ, they say he, you know, that's the whole thing, that's their jams, Jesus Christ, right? You know they don't actually fuck with his words, though. Because you guys aren't even, you're so not like not you guys, but some people aren't accepting of others. Jesus was not that way, bro. He was such a hippy-dippy, defiant guy. Like, are you really following him? Yeah, because right, because that would be flipping out over a bottle yard table. Yeah, thank you. So wait a second. So Jesus Christ wasn't judging indigenous practices before him. You know what I mean? Jesus Christ wasn't uh an advocate of, you know, this system of like, you know, capitalism and like it wasn't capitalism back then, but he was an advocate for the poor, the blind, the sick, the animals. Apparently. Sex workers, sex workers, and apparently he was vegan or vegetarian in the Kashik Records. It said, yes. I don't obviously, but in the Kashuk Record, interesting. There's a mind by Benzel. Mind is he is like dreadhead guy. He's going through using chat to help go through the Kashik records and ask certain questions. Mind of Benzel. He asked a question about Jesus' diet, and he was like plant-based. My point is, guys.

SPEAKER_01 49:10

I actually believe that.

SPEAKER_00 49:12

My my point is though, logically, it's not like we need to make make it about like actually what his words were and live like him. Because half the stuff that like capitalism and like patriarchy is enforcing through Jesus, Christ is fucking it all up. And honestly, they've done a disservice to actually what I believe he is. I have felt, like, I have felt whatever it is, Christ. Like, I have felt like, oh, like, because I grew up without a dad. So it's like like Archangel Michael, like, like that like masculine, like, oh, I can call on that. I feel safe right now. There's like there's other deities of that are women, it's different. But it's like I felt that it's positive. You know what I'm saying? It's not this judgmental, you're not Jesus. Basically, what I'm saying, guys, Jesus never judged indigenous practices and like thinks it thinks it's demonic, and basically, but people are took that and are judging, you know, other, you know, people that, you know, in the community, other black people are and what strike struck me the most this year is like the one you sent me of this Buddhist group walking through the the South, and then like some black churches like screaming bloody murder at these like Tibetan monks who are literally doing a walk for peace. Mind you, Buddha was around before Siddhartha was here before Christ, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 50:46

So what's really wild to me though, because again, logically, are do we really think that this one specific place on earth with this one specific man? Again, I'm not I think Jesus was amazing, was look Christ consciousness. Is like we all should actually be Christ-like, right? That's what we should be aiming for. But what I'm saying is, do we really think that this one person in this one area of the earth was like is like the one person to ever come to the like these teachings and like a lot of these other spiritual um beings and other you know spiritual practices or religions like there's other spirits were teaching this yeah, like similar things. So it's just it's very in a lot of ways elitist. It's very like my religion is right, all of your other religions are wrong. If you are not in this religion, you are going to hell, you're gonna suffer for eternity. It's just elitist.

SPEAKER_00 52:04

It's elitist, it's it's it's just wrong on so many levels. It's it's it has uh perhaps even has to do with class, you know. When I went to Fiji. Yeah, absolutely. When I went to Fiji, you know, Fijian people, they're indigenous, like actual Fijian people, they're black, they're like black Filipino people, like they're you know, and I remember driving to like this random place, like way out in the it's like I saw a Jehovah's Witness Temple. Like, it just reminded me like missionaries came to these indigenous people to spread the word of Christ because these people think that they are they need to save these indigenous people from themselves when they've been efficient, they've been efficient, they've been efficient, happy, all got everything they need. And I remember one of my tour guides was like trying to push like Jehovah's Witness Christian stuff on on us, like totally we didn't need that. But he started talking about some, but it's like they really kind of ingrained you know, and we have the aboriginals in Australia, you know, then obviously everything that happened in Africa. We got the indigenous people in South America, the Aztecs, like all these things, because they felt like they needed to spread the word because they thought, oh, they're gonna go to hell, or right.

SPEAKER_01 53:31

And if we're really side note to that, if we're really want to go into missions and missionaries and the atrocities that aren't talked about that happened during some of these missions on these people, the violence, the like that's really Jesus-like, really Jesus-like of you.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

Gotta say, these missionaries, you know. Oh, especially in, oh my god, the Native Americans, I mean, everywhere, but what happened in like uh Canada, what they did to Native American people way up there too. I mean, probably here as well, but I mean it's heartbreaking. It's crazy. And to think, and to think, like, you know, the Native Americans, you know, hey, come on, like, yeah, let's talk, let's chop it up. And next thing you know, their kids are gone. You know, parents mom's gone. Like, it's like or you know, just totally took over. Needless to say, guys, CeC, we better, you know, is the is the F.

SPEAKER_01 54:40

What do you say? Oh, no, uh, we're gonna ruffle some feathers for sure. This is if any of our episodes are gonna be the first final right now. No, uh, I think we're gonna worst case, we'll ruffle some feathers. I think we have some people, maybe even some friends who don't agree, right, with our spiritual views, and that's okay. That's okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

Um, but that's we're cool like that. We don't have to agree. I still love you. Exactly. I don't care. I think you're gonna live a great life. It goes somewhere great in the afterlife. Exactly. You don't have to follow it. I, you know, it's some people like, oh, Catholic.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

And that's the difference. That's one of the main differences between, I feel like, spirituality versus like organized religion. Because who am I to tell anyone where they're going?

SPEAKER_00 55:35

And here's the thing just side note, guys. Sin and I grew up Christian. We're not just talking from an outside perspective. We were in that shit. In that bitch multiple times a week. So trust me, we're not just talking shit.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, and and and like I and like I said, we both think there are beautiful things about many religions. Like, there are things that I appreciate, you know what I mean? But also, you know, there are some scriptures, even as a child, that I would be like, hello, I got some questions. What do you mean women should say silent in the church? What do you mean slaves obey your masters? What I have something's off. I can you clarify what this means and why it's just yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:30

Especially as a black American.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

Especially the history here, especially we're not talking about Africa.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

I'm not talking about pe slaves that went to to to l to to the UK. I'm talking about America slave trade. As a black American to still be so in alignment with something we didn't even come here with that they used to keep us down. However, no, because be you know, what is it, black joy, and we took something and made it our own with black congregations and hope. There are things good that did we made it, we tried our best to have hope and do what we had to do. But really, it's like if we still rockin' tight with this, it's like, come on, why was it put on us, right? Speak so that way we could follow orders.

SPEAKER_01 57:27

It's like the logic. We cannot lose our sense of being able to think for ourselves and really piece apart, like, what's the history of this? Why? And that's something that like I remember growing up in the church was not encouraged to ask why. It's like just this is just the way it is. You just because I said so. Because, but it's like we're human beings with our own minds and our brains, like, and anything that's a good thing, I would assume that you should be okay with having hard conversations and answering hard questions.

SPEAKER_00 58:06

Correct. And I think this is honestly, this is so in alignment with Uranus going into Gemini yesterday, and we were gonna have a Taurus episode today, but it like everything happens the way it needs to because this conversation is very much so Uranus in Gemini. Yeah, it is for yourself, the decisiveness, and this is a like um uh generational transit. This is gonna be a collective thing. So this is exciting me right now. I'm charged up. Yeah, I'm ready to take on these next many years with Gemini and Uranus and Gemini.

SPEAKER_01 58:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 58:46

Especially being woman who we are, like, you know, I'm still like I'm a creative, I'm figuring out my life and sit, but sin is a therapist and taking a test to be, you know, a psychology, right? Psychologist or life, the licensed marriage and family therapist. Um, basically, but in our careers though, regardless of what I end up doing or the many things I do, and we're very spiritual women. So walking through the world, we it's so empowering to know this information and to harness it. Yeah, just walking here and being in the public in this way is so powerful. And I'm very happy I can do it with you. Yeah, all of these years. I mean, we went to the Christian church together, together, together, and and you she called me up. She called me up one day. It was like junior year. She's like, girl, yeah, I didn't make it to church that day, but you were like, you won't believe what that pastor was saying on that stage. Disgusted. It was around junior, senior year. I was like, I'm looking around this church, I'm like, these people suck. Like, all they do is gossip.

SPEAKER_01 59:57

The gossip and the judge, the judgment, and the it's just like wow, wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:08

It's it's wild.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:10

It's wild. I I also think that um I know it's it's been an hour, and I think that like this could absolutely be a part two of Astro chat because it's so rich, there's so much conversation here, and I love that with the chats we're able to go off script and kind of just roll with what comes up and stuff. Like, yeah, absolutely, guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:37

Absolutely, and so we'll we will have a part two where we can we'll talk about Jupiter go um Jupiter, how it's made in Cancer, and then it going into Leo, and then we're gonna get into the lunar nodes, um, and um and kind of go into more so how transits work and how you can apply that to your kind of astro weather, your astro uh day-to-day. Um, and yeah, and I think then we're gonna also this month record, so there'll be two episodes Astro Chat part two, and also Taurus. Um very exciting stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:16

Yes, we're looking forward to that. Definitely stay tuned for that one.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:21

Yes. Um, so yeah, May, May, April, May, big month. Very excited for May. Um, very excited for our tourist episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:32

And we we kind of talked a little bit already um about our friendship vows, right? Oh, yes. But like it's just yeah, being able to do this together, but also having the history that we do. We've walked together through different parts of our lives. We're young women together. We're still, you know what I mean? We're like figuring out womanhood together, right? Like, and also it's just so nice to be able to like little, you know, side note. I was like feeling rushed this morning. It's been stressful with all my studying. Like, I was not feeling it. I was like, I don't want to do tourist episode this way, and I was like, girl, I just need to be honest with you. This is where I'm at, this is how I'm feeling, and like and also really shout out to our friendship and the be the ability to be able to be honest, and I'm throwing fucking shade, okay? Because true friendship, true friendship is when you're honest. Be honest and say shit even when it's fucking hard, even when it's uncomfortable. But because you love and care about someone, you're gonna do it anyway. Real no coward shit. We should be real over here.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:58

We help each other grow. We gotta help each other grow. We gotta be real, guys. There's so many things not being real with us. The government, people in power, we need to be real with each other. Okay. She's shaking her head because there's a lot of there's a friend transit, someone really fucked up. And to them, they did it. But that's giving me that's giving, you know, crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:30

Whatever needed to happen happen, and and it is what it is, and it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:38

I'm not gonna lie, when I did send that text to you, I was like, she's not gonna like that. Which one? Which I was like, I hope we can record today.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:53

I was like, yeah, we go record today.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:01

I was like, she's probably not gonna let that send it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:15

You're right, and and we can be our true authentic selves, and it's and we might irritate each other every now and then, even that really doesn't happen often, but it's like okay, cool, and then we we laugh and we move on, and and that's what friendship is about.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:34

Yeah, guys. This this podcast also is about sisterhood.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:38

So okay, Astro Chat.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:44

You didn't say your friendship.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:45

Oh, but oh, okay. So my mine was that text. Um anyway, just kidding. No, I'm so thrilled that like I can talk to we can talk to each other about all these topics. Maybe we'll, you know, get arrested together by the CIA.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:07

Um hopefully we'll be at least we could bunk together, maybe. I'll make it nice and cute and cozy.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:13

Nice and cute and cozy. But it's like, I bet you, girl, we are burnt at the stake together. I you know what?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:22

I that feels that feels right to me. We're probably holding hands looking at each other like bitch, at least we're burning together. We're gonna down together. See you.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:35

And I would not want to burn down on anyone but you. These women think for themselves off with their heads and I I'm just so proud that you're, you know, Saturn is an Aries, you know. I'm proud of you and you're studying right now. You're gonna help so many people. With, you know, now that you're taking this test. And I'm just really happy I get to witness this. And thank you for being gracious with me and standing by me while I'm, you know, recalibrating my building myself back up after this Pluto transit and Saturn for me is big. So it's like, I just wouldn't run to with anyone else. So I'm so grateful for all these years. You're you are you and maybe Matthew Millary, but you, the only friends from way back when that have made it um through the Uranus and uh Taurus.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:37

So wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:40

Are we expecting my medal in the mail, darling?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:43

The trophy of some sort.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:46

Only gold will do, only gold will do. So yeah, guys, and also want to say we do not dislike religion. We're just talking from our perspective. Yeah, if you are religious, that's amazing. I'm there's good things you can take from all of that. Um maybe you can kind of also be influenced by our perspective a little bit as well. Um, but yeah, and we'll do chat, we'll do part two very soon.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:11

Yes. Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:14

Bye, guys.