Episode 33 The Other Guys and Smokey and the Bandit

Dave & Christopher review 2 more fun movies:  "The Other Guys,"  a 2010 buddy cop comedy starring Will Ferrell, Michael Keaton, Eva Mendes and Mark Wahlberg and directed by Adam McKay and the 1977 action comedy, "Smokey and the Bandit" starring Burt Reynolds, Sally Field, Jerry Reed and Jackie Gleason and directed by Hal Needham

"If You Were Here" © writers: Tom Bailey, Alannah Currie, and Joe Leeway performed by J.Christopher Thomas

"Ride Captain Ride "© writers: Mike Pinera, Frank "Skip" Konte  performed by Blues Image

Transcript

The Other Guys

SPEAKER_01 0:19

You provide unique perspectives of some level movies that everybody's seen as some of the but sure. If you're looking for a good movie or two to ensure that you've come to the right place, let's get started. On back to the show of uh what wait I did pick a the next movie I did pick was The Other Guys, which I think we just said it a minute ago. Will Farrell was on top of his game. It's a hilarious buddy cop movie with Will Farrell and um Mark Wahlberg.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

This movie would be perfect if it wasn't for Wahlberg. I swear. I mean, I'm not even being funny about that. I just I don't know the man personally. I'm just saying from what I've seen of his roles, it's that he's just a spaceholder. It's like you could put anybody there and it would be fine. And I'm thinking like Chris Tucker or somebody with some dynamism or something in that role, anybody other than him would have been much better. That's just my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

I think he played it better than he usually did. He didn't play his usual macho self, he kind of played himself as more of a insecure because there's an incident in the movie. I'm not trying to jump ahead. So he still tried to come across as this hard-edged cop, but he's not because of that incident. No one lets him live it down.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Yeah. Um you can say it's he shot Derek Jeter on accident. Right. And now he has a reputation of being this hothead gung-ho cop over the top. But I'm just saying he's not when he does these jokes, it's not uh, somebody else could just like a comedian or a good better actor or something. Oh, that's like the scene with him shooting Jeter, it's like I think that's something he would do in real life. I mean, it's not even it's not even funny. It's like it's kind of like, yeah, that's funny. This is the same, I'm I'm serious. This is the same guy who said, was it 9-11? If I would have been there, uh that one plane wouldn't have gone down, and then he had to back it up and apologize. Right. Because he's basically saying all these other dudes were heroes were like they're bummed because I wasn't there. You all five foot five of you, you would have taken care of them. Great. It's like, you know, I just see him on screen, it's like, oh, but I but that said, this movie, and I'm gonna cut you off. No, no, this movie's great hilarious movie. Uh who's the director of this? That's Adam McKay. Adam McKay, that's right, okay. Um, yeah, it's just amazing, amazingly funny movie. Just I'm just saying for him, it's like I think Adam McKay, it's so good, it even I think it even overlooks that part. It it gets past that. And and the rocks in it too.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

And so Samuel L. Jackson.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

And he's another one. He has a little bit more personality than Wahlberg. Maybe a Ray, like who has more range, you think, as far as acting? Like if I if so if they both had to do a serious role, who do you think? I still go probably, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:03

I think would pick Wahlberg because I mean he did there's minus this, there's two other roles I think he was great in. That's Boogie Knights.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

And I'll that's more Paul Thomas Anderson, but that's debatable. No, no, no, I'm sorry. I don't mean to debate you or debate him. I'm just saying I think that's Paul Thomas Anderson. She's like, I think this is Adam McKay making him look good, not him. When I see him with a lesser director, like say Shymelon or whatever, oh yeah, it's like, oh god.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

And the second one I would have picked is the departed, but again, that's to Marty.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

Scorsese, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:35

And again, he was a secondary character, he wasn't a main character.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Although he wanted to be, you heard about that, right? Oh, sure. He wanted to do a sequel. This is what I'm talking about. This wasn't an asshole.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

There have been talks of doing sequels because the it's based on a I think Korean movie of the trilogy.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

Yeah. But it but not for him. Not where he's the star. Yeah. It's Mark Wahlberg. That I agree with, but him saying I I'm gonna do this. I have an idea where I I'm the star, and I was like, it's Mark Wahlberg.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

He's got an ego, you know that. But anyway, digress. Yeah. I get your point. I'm not I don't think he's by any stretch of imagination a great actor. He's got really I can't even say talent.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

He's got a limited range. Let's be fair, let's say limited range.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

And I and also, sorry, I'll let you, I'm gonna let you finish. No, you're good. Whenever I see him, I also think of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch. Like, why like I don't want to let him like if I knew him, I lived next door to him, I'd never let him live that down. Like, why does he get to live that down? That thing, whatever that was that he was doing, was so terrible.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get two. Swink. Swink. Swink. Boom, boom, swing.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

And everyone just like looks the other way like that didn't happen. No, it happened. He was on the charts for a while. I know. And doing all that stupid shit.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Just a good vibration.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

With his with his underwear out or some shit. Yeah. Oh, anyway, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I was traumatized by him. I'm sorry. This is good comedy to me. Yeah. Hey, I'm gonna go get it. There's certain actors, and he's he gets on you. Yeah, one or a handful, literally, maybe less than five actors, but he's a proverbial up there.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Fingernails on the chalkboard for you.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

Some people don't like Tom Cruise, and I'm like, what? He seems fine to me. I know. I hear, you know. But some people are like, oh, I hate that guy. So it's like personal taste. Right.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Yeah. The other guys is a 2010 American Buddy Cop action comedy film directed by Adam McKay, who co-wrote it with Chris Henshey. It stars Will Farrell, Mark Wahlberg with oh my god, Eva Mendez. Michael Keaton was great. Yes. Excuse me. Steve Coogan, Ray Stevenson, Dwayne Johnson, and Samuel L. Jackson in supporting roles.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

Steve Coogan's also underrated. Oh yeah. He was he's always nifted out of the park when he does a role.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

This was the fourth of five f collaborations between Farrell and McKay, following Anchorman, the legend of Ron Burgundy, Taladega, Talladega Knights, the ballad of Ricky Bobby, and Step Brothers. And then they followed it up with Anchorman 2, which I think is great. Yeah. The other guys is the only one not to be co-written by Farrell. It is also the first of three collaborations between Farrell and Wahlberg. Yeah. Daddy's Home and Daddy's Home 2, which were nothing compared to this. But again, that plays more on what you're saying about Wahlberg. I think. And that didn't have a great director like McKay. Right. More in the plot. After mistakenly shooting Derek Jeter at the World Series, hot-tempered New York detective Terry Hoytz is partnered with mild-mannered forensic accountant uh Alan Gamble. Terry Hoytz is Mark Wahlberg and Alan Gamble is Will Farrell. Yeah. Both are ridiculed by their peers who idolize detectives Chris Danson and PK Highsmith, considered New York City's best cops, despite their major collateral damage they caused catching petty criminals.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

Can we just talk about that opening scene? Oh, yeah. Maybe 10 minutes-ish, something like that, maybe five, five, seven. But uh it's a parody of all the super, super high action cop films. Cop film from the 70s, 80s, 90s, whatever. All of it. Yeah. Um I love the sports car that Samuel.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

That's so heartbreaking to me now that you mentioned that. Because those oh, there's two of them. Yeah, he he damaged the one and then he got a new one. He flew one into a building. Well, that and also a bus first, then the building. Um, it was Chevelle. Those cars are I love those amazing car, yeah. The Chevelles are, yeah. You put a dent in my hood.

SPEAKER_00 8:06

They're shooting like all these automatic weapons at him. I know. Then he had the black one after that. Yeah. Yeah. Um then he said that's the second time this week, or something like that. Right. Okay. So he just has all these sports cars, like, where are the cops getting this money from? Right. Those aren't cheap. Yeah. But yeah, that's you did like$12 million worth of damage for like a quarter pound a week. Well, we'll just let the good citizens of New York decide that they're like, yeah. Right. Um over the top, right?

SPEAKER_01 8:33

It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

Yeah, they're just a cult of personality.

unknown 8:35

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

They were But I that's that opening scene is hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 8:39

Those two together. And I mean, just that like you said, and that's what sets you up, right? And then as we get past that, the opening, then because there's who's the the narrator? It's ice T.

SPEAKER_00 8:49

That's also a nice touch. Right. You know, the funny thing is that it's kind of a parody of rocks movies.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

In a way, because like he has a thing where he can't be beat in a fight or whatever, the Fast and Furious, where he's cars to jump through space and all this other stuff.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

Well, that changed with the smashing machine. No, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Anyway. Not really. I I um so I kind of give him credit. I I don't know if he thinks he's poking fun at himself. I'm I'm gonna say he knows it and he's going along with the joke. I'm gonna give him that credit. No, you what's that phase? You're gonna like that no no- You don't think he knows that's being ironic toward him?

SPEAKER_01 9:24

I'm gonna feel like he's like you said, he's a step above Wahlberg to me.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

Like for Yeah, he's not good.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

I mean, I don't hate Dwayne Johnson, but I mean there's only a few movies on I could probably say less than a handful that I enjoy.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

And I'm not trying to be like again, it goes back to what we said. I don't I don't care for his movies or Zac.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

People who like him, hey, sure. I salute you, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

Yeah, but he's just not mock up with team.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

I just want to believe that in this cold open scene that he is aware of the joke. And if that's if that's the case, I don't know him, I don't know the man, so let's just I'm just gonna assume. And if he is, I give him credit for that. If he's not aware, then god, he's terrible.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Well, I'm gonna go because what the face I made, and you guys obviously can't see it, it's just I want to believe yes and no, because part of me thinks that having all those yes people, I think he He thinks that's the shit.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

What was it? Black Adam, right? Yeah, he had all the power in the world, and then like there was one where he's a helicopter pilot and it was like some kind of storm is. Yeah, I mean, all these things, all these super huge stunts and action. It's like, don't you see the parallel between it? That's why I saw that's why I'm saying I'm giving him credit because no one would be that stupid that could miss the parallels. Uh but maybe you're you're you don't know.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

I can't say I'm right, but I mean You don't know the man, so you know right.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

We were maybe he thinks it's a serious show. Well why wasn't my role bigger, man?

SPEAKER_01 10:47

I mean, that's why I kind of pointed out like the smashing machine, right? Right. I mean, that's an attempt to for your Oscar glory. We'll won't get back into that. But anyway.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Great opening. I'll just leave it at that.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

Right.

SPEAKER_00 10:58

We digress five to seven minutes, ten minutes, whatever of this movie. Amazing.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

I mean, and it goes to like Samuel Jackson. I know he gets it. And he played it well over the top. Yeah, he's way purposefully.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

Yeah. Because he knows what he said, you have the right to remain silent. He's shooting two guns. But I want to hear you scream. I mean, he's totally in on the joke. Right. All the sex we have to have with women that we don't want. And Will Fur goes, You shut your mouth. That's right. That's right. Um, he's totally in on the joke.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

That's what I mean. And I'm not again trying to knock on Dwayne. But you can knock on him. He's got a lot of he can take it.

SPEAKER_00 11:34

He's got, yeah, he's got broad shoulders and a lot of money.

SPEAKER_01 11:37

A lot of money, yeah. So anyway, but yeah, that opening sequence is hilarious. And like I said, the nice touch of the cherry on top is iced tea.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Yeah, narrating, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Yeah, it's perfect. And then he's narrating and he shows and he goes, then there's the other guys when they see anything, and that's what they're pointing out that Will Farrell and Mark Wahlberg and the rest of you.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

You see them in the crowd like applauding for dancing and highsmith, is that his name?

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Yeah. Because they want to be those guys.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

Well, Farrell doesn't. He just account accountant. He's got the little picture and he's the little camera, and then Wahlberg slaps it out of his hand. No, everyone else, all the other cops are. They idolize them, right? It's Farrell's like, he's very happy where he is at his desk.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

Yeah, because we see that band trip between him and Wahlberg. Don't you want to go, no, nope, I'm great right now. And that's there's some people who are like that. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that. But but that's the beginning, and then later on, as we see Will Farrell's character, um Alan, stumbles upon what, uh, Steve Coogan, who's all over the news. He's uh some kind of uh investor, hedge fund investor, something like that, yeah. And he's uh been it's kind of like a because they make uh they allude to it at the end of the movie about the Ponzi scheme, and that's what he's been doing, basically. And you don't and Will Farrell catches him for some kind of scaffolding. Right. Where he's charging, yeah, and he hasn't gotten scaffolding these buildings, and he's like, that's uh so he's got all these money laundering schemes basically.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

I didn't fully understand that part of it. I wasn't it was so much comedy I wasn't trying to really turn my brain on or anything.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

And I know they try to spell it out the end, that's what they show.

SPEAKER_00 13:14

Yeah, he's basically lost a bunch of money for the hedge funders, apparently. Right. So he's trying to um take it out of other ways you know, surreptitiously without people noticing. Like the I guess the no. Oh well, there's a robbery, I I won't get ahead, but there's a thing where he tries to set it up so that Well, you're kind of not though, because that robbery is what gets into Oh, it gets Dancing and Highsmith.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

Right. And then we figure out later on, because he but anyway, yeah, we are getting ahead now, but that all ties in.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

But Wahlberg blows it off because, oh, you just, you know, it's nothing. And he and he always goes, what is it, drugs?

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Or he goes, Why do you always Yeah, Colombian drug lords, like they're gonna just be out walking around in the street. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

Um but they have uh they in the beginning don't really like each other, but there's something people slap Will Ferrell down, and Wahlberg sticks up and goes, That's what we do, we're partners, you know. I mean, I don't have to like you, but you know, there's a code we have to do.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

Yeah. Well, Wal Wahlberg is a gung-ho cop, and I get the impression from his character that he is he learned all of his what he knows about being a police officer from TV.

SPEAKER_10 14:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

He's he he's quick to pull his gun out, he talks really loud and tough, he wants to get out there in the action. Most of most cops that I've ever heard of are like, I never fired my gun in 40 years or whatever it was, and that's just the way it is, it's boring. But he's like, I gotta get out there and do stuff. And they're all kind of like that in a way, in a comedic way. They're all like, they all want to get in on the action, quote unquote.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Well, because they're idols, right?

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Dancing and high school, they're idols, yeah. They're they're all they're rock stars.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Well, we sleep with when we don't really want to, and you know, we're with Kim Kardashian or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 14:51

Right. Do you have any comments about you being a Kim Kardashian? No. But yes. But yes.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

But it yeah, that's that and that's what we yeah, again, we roll into after that. They go, uh Gamble and Hoyt's go to investigate Steve Cookin's character uh because of the scaffolding. They actually have a meeting with him, and then right after they get their car gets hit, uh Gamble.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

Will Farrell's character tries to arrest him. He rests.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Oh, true, he does arrest him, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

And he's like, you're under arrest and for the scaffolding violation or something really lame, and then Wahlberg's upset. Like, what are you doing? Like, this is not that's not a real crime. Right, he's but that's what I mean about being a cop. That is a crime. Arrest him. But he's So Farrell's right.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

Well, he's not even I won't say aloof because that's being too nice. He's just stupid. He doesn't know.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

Yeah, he's stupid, yeah. That's it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 15:41

But that's where we we meet Ray Stevenson, who's Roger Weasley, he's head of security and all that. And yeah, they act and this is where we discover get Alan's car, and he's like, What is this? Oh, it's a Prius, you know. And yeah, it's even the music they debate on you know, uh Terry puts in some like thrash metal.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Oh yeah, I think that's later.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Anyway, I'm jumping ahead.

SPEAKER_00 16:04

Yeah, yeah. And then he's got Little River Band. LRB.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

Oh, I got L R B. Yeah, so I'm jumping all over. It's but it's adds to the humor because we're out of Nova, who listens to Little River Band? Yeah, that guy's gonna be. Not gonna lie, I do. And I can't, yeah, it's great music. But anyway, this starts the whole thing as reminiscing, that's right. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Uh yeah, so they arrest um Coogan's character, which is David uh Urshwan. And then something like the people that run the hedge fund are like have sent these people to like get him back because they're trying to like get the get their money back or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

Right, because they know he's running.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

Right. But they're they're doing dirty shit too, so they can't let it be known that they're right. So they send Ray Stevenson. Wasn't he like the Punisher in one of those? Yes, he was a person.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

He was also in Ashoka with uh the Star Wars show. He'd recently passed away about a year or so. Oh geez.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

Yeah. Um so they anyway, they send him to go retrieve Well, they crash into Alan's car.

unknown 17:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:03

And they're all like, what happened? I love how disrespectful they are when they get him out of the car. Oh, they just like pull Will Farrell the car to reach in and grab his gun or whatever. Well, so it's okay, Mike. Just like, you know, you know. And it's like Farrell's like, what is going on?

SPEAKER_01 17:18

I think we skipped ahead too by then because the desk pop, yeah, yeah. He gets his gun taken away by Captain uh what's what's his name?

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Captain Gene.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

Captain Gene Mock. It's just Michael Keaton. I'm not a hey Gene, don't call me Gene.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

Captain Gene. This Captain. It's just Captain, it's not hard. That's a yeah, we're skipping ahead. Uh uh Damon Wayne's kid and is it Rob Riggle? Is that his name? Oh yeah. They're they play two more cops who are definitely in line to take over Danzen and Hysmith, who died by the way, we skipped that part.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

In the first opening, cooled opening or whatever. So now all the the cops are like vying to take their place. That's the premise of the movie, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

We're we're just having fun here and we've we get ahead of ourselves, so sorry, kids.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Yeah, that's not a big deal.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

But uh yeah, Ray Stevenson, they crash. But in that, even in the crash, there's a very attractive one of the other heads, women, right?

SPEAKER_00 18:09

Brazilian woman, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

And she's like, hey, she's like, and Mark Wahlberg's like, what the?

SPEAKER_00 18:13

She's dealing with Wahlberg on the other side of the car. She looks over at Will Farrell on the other side.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

And she's like, hey, ah, a little poppy or whatever. And you see Pharaoh, I mean, uh Wahlberg, like, what the fuck? What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 18:25

I mean, what am I? Some chop liver? You know? That's right. And she disarms him real fast. Right. Uh, and they take their shoes or whatever. I know. And they walk through. And they steal their car. They just move them out of the way. Excuse me, pushes them out of the way, gets in the car, gets in this Prius, and drives off.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Why'd they take our shoes? They walk half, what, I don't know, forever to get away. Yeah, miles and miles.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Yeah. Hey, where's your shoes? Why are you never mind that? I think he calls them Bilbo Baggins or something. That's right. I think it's Rob Wriggles.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

It's hilarious. And I gotta say, like, there's a lot of comedians in this.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

And it's Rob Wrigle and oh, I forgot the other guy. Again, I'm skipping ahead, but this is uh later on when they find the Prius, that cop, I forget his name. He's talking about all the stuff they did, all the oh, there's a raccoon gave birth in the backseat. Rob Hubble. Yeah, Hubel, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:16

Hubel, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 19:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

He uh he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, soup kitchen. They call it a soup kitchen. What? The hobos, you know, they had sex and the boy.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

And of course, Adam McKay comes from SNL and Will Farrells. There's a lot of comedians in this, and it's very funny.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

But that little thing by Rob Hubel.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

Yeah, Hubel, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Hubel. He that little thing where he throws in what's an F shack or something like that. God, it's comedy gold. Yeah. I I hadn't watched it in forever. And re revisiting, oh my god, it's just it's comedy gold. Yeah. It is hilarious. I mean, 2010, this movie was made. Yeah. So let's go real quick. Yeah. Sidetrack for a moment. Could this movie be made today? I don't see how it couldn't. There's not really anything in it that's to me.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

I don't think that's I always cringe when I hear that question just because it's so loaded. But I'm not I'm not saying it's you, but I'm just saying for people that would think that way.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

And I'm trying to get that out there because I don't think there I'm not trying to that away. Yeah, because I don't think there is anything. I think it still couldn't.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

Yeah, no, I totally totally. Yeah. I think so. I mean it's over the top. It's ridiculous. There's nothing politically incorrect about it unless you're really reaching.

SPEAKER_01 20:25

Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

I can't even I can't even think of anything that's really like no.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Yeah, I just think it's hilarious. It's just over the top, which is fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

Yeah. Great cast. I mean, it's just the jokes are funny. They're not punching down the the jokes. There's like a a running joke that Captain Gene, of course, that name is funny, but he also has a side job at Bedbathing Beyond, which is hilarious just by itself.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

What do you even explain? Is he goes, well, you know, I got my kid, he's going to he's gay and he wants to be a DJ or some shit. Right. But he's going to the arts. I have to pay for that. I have to pay for that, yeah. So I need to work two jobs.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

So he's like a supervisor at Bedbathing, and he's all gung-ho about that too. I know.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Are you here about the bath mats? It's totally funny. And he goes, there's a serial rape. Oh, I'm sorry, wrong job.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Yeah, yeah. Oh, but don't you know don't ignore it. Yeah. Don't walk in pairs. That's hilarious. Yeah, that that and that's that's timeless. There's nothing offensive about that. So that's kind of that's kind of humor it is, basically.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

But as uh Gamble and Hoytz become partners, uh Alan invites Terry to his house and we meet the lovely Sheila, which is Eva Mendez, who's his wife and smoking. Wahlberg's like looking like incredulously like No, who are you? Who are really who are? That's my that's the old Walmart Shane.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

You know No, really, who are you? He just keeps he can't believe that Wilfero could pull a woman like that.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

I mean, she's beautifully dressed, but Wilfro's like, are you really gonna wear it?

SPEAKER_00 21:52

Yeah. I mean, you look like a hobo. He just tells it to her face, yeah. And she just takes it, oh you. Oh my god. It's so absurd. That's the cu that's that's the comedy about it.

SPEAKER_05 22:03

So this guy could be connected to drug cartels. Black market organ sales. Human trafficking, all of it. How do you get that from anything I just said? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_04 22:16

Hi. You must be Terry. I'm sorry I've been hiding, honey, but this dinner was tricky.

SPEAKER_06 22:23

Who are you?

SPEAKER_04 22:24

I'm Dr. Feeling, his wife.

SPEAKER_06 22:26

Seriously, who is that?

SPEAKER_04 22:28

His old lady.

SPEAKER_06 22:29

Sweetie. It's a workstation. Can you come in here? Dress like a hobo. It's distracted.

SPEAKER_04 22:35

I know you're working. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_06 22:37

Come on. Seriously. Come on, look. Who is that?

SPEAKER_04 22:45

Get over here.

SPEAKER_07 22:48

Look, they're not all first-round picks, okay? Come on, are you gonna tell me who that is?

SPEAKER_01 22:53

You really are shocked because he's Episcopalian and not a Catholic, but that and you know, later on when their Hoyt or Terry and Alan are discussing their lives and how Sheila and Alan got together, he goes, Well, you know, I used to help people out at college. Oh, yeah. This girl came up to me and we started dating.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Just on her dates. Like her dates, quote unquote, air quotes.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

And then so Terry goes, Well, you were a pimp. No, no, no, no. I was just helping these people out. No. And then as it progresses, he's got a grill. And then he calls himself, he has a what, an aka? I'm Gata.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

I'm Gator. Gata. Gator don't play no shit. It's just absurd. It's just like absurd comedy.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Oh yeah, it's like I said, it's over the top, but it's oh my god, hilarious.

SPEAKER_08 23:45

You don't get it. There is a darkness inside of me. It wants to get out, it wants to walk around. It wants some walking around money. And it wants to buy some shoes. And it wants to, it wants to walk up with the people and say, hey, Gator, don't play no shit. You feel me? Gator, never been about that. Never, never been about playing no shit.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

But I love, I don't know if it's that scene or like when uh he and his wife, he and Eva Mendez are are saying goodnight for the night when they're letting um him go. And she says something like, you know, I he gets home and I take my breast out or whatever, and they're so perky. She's like describing them.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

They're not big, but they're perky.

SPEAKER_00 24:19

Yeah, and Walfara's like, yeah, whatever. And Wahlberg's like, what the I mean, she's your wife is scalding hot, bro. What are you talking about? She's a beautiful wife. Bye, Sheila. Bye Sheila. He just keeps saying bye.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

I was like, all right, Terry. Okay, yeah, yeah. Bye, bye, Sheila.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

So funny. Oh, and she's she's a nurse or some shit. Like the impossible, yeah. Impossibly perfect wife or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

She's Dr. Sheila Ramos Gamble.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

A doctor and former Nick's dancer. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that that happens.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Well, they was going to medical school and I was a dancer on the side. Right? To pay for her medical school. Smoking hot, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Oh my god. It's there's some other parts I was thinking in the beginning. I just can't think now, but that we skipped over.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

I mean, I think it's one of those things where, like I said before, with with the the difficulty with these movies is that we're sitting here talking about the things that are funny because we both watch it. You if you're listening to this, you have to watch it yourself. Right. We're not trying to do that. And then you'll give me other jokes. Otherwise, it's just gonna sound stupid to you. But but on the other hand, it's like it is a comedy, so that the like the plot's pretty light. It's kind of it's there's a plot, but it's kind of like it's you know, it's the Ponzi is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

It's the Ponzi scheme. Like I said, even I think if we were to revisit and just focus on that, we might catch certain things, but or we might not.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

It might not be fleshed out as because it's a comedy.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

I'm not I was just there for the the laughs.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

The laughs, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

And it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

But uh the classic line, you gotta have to see the movie to appreciate it. But like when Farrell finally figures out later on at the end what's going on, now he's gonna like pursue the case. Right.

SPEAKER_08 25:57

This is and he goes, Gator needs his gap, punk ass bitch. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

And then we see Michael Caesar. He's just like, oh, okay. Opens a drawer. He's on the phone. This is so casual. Oh, yeah, okay, you can talk to me that way. Who's this whose baby is that?

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Get his bitch if you're wearing jimmies. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh man. Oh man. I that little subcharacter was brilliant.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

Yeah, it's ridiculous. That's what I'm saying. There's there's a plot, but I mean, these things on the side are just on they're unexplainable. You can't explain them.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

There's no reason to comedy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

You just like you just watch it and you go, this is insane. And it's uh there's the thing about Wahlberg, how he secretly knows how to ballet dance and do all this really quote unquote gay stuff, although he's doing it sarcastically. It's like, again, that's do you not get do you not get the joke against you, bro? Like that's that's my they're making fun of you. Right. He's like, no, no, I I learned how to play the harp or whatever. Oh yeah. To mess with this other dude who's a nerd.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

I did watch the unrated version, so there's a little clip here and there they added, and I can see where. And to piggyback off what you're just saying right now, I'll give Wahlberg credit, even he didn't realize he's uh the butt of the jokes, right? Right. To to go into this movie, right? Because this is their first collaboration, Wahlberg and Farrell. Farrell. And Wahlberg was still kind of, but he had kind of tapered down. Will Farrell was the comedy king. Right. You know, why wouldn't I? I mean, if you're whoever your manager is goes, hey, you need to get into that on this, right, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:36

You need to yeah, get your profile up.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Because this guy's the the leader of the pack.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

And if you don't jump on this, somebody else will. And just to give it reference, well, I mean, didn't make a lot of money, but it was budgeted between 85 and 100 million dollars. Okay. And I could see why. I mean, you have Samuel L, you have Dwayne, a bunch of A-list. Well, yeah, you gotta pay some people. Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Even the production of it, you could tell was huge.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

So, but it I mean it grossed to 170. So technically, to the studios, no, it didn't make a lot of money. In fact, they'd probably say it lost. I mean, that's but still 170 million dollars on a comedy. Yeah. It's decent. But my point of that is that Mark Wahlberg, again, why wouldn't you collaborate with somebody who's yeah, obviously gonna be make you a lot of money. And Will Farrell probably made his 20 million. Wahlberg probably probably not as much, but still, I'd say 15. Still, I mean, right there's 25. Wait, no, that's 35 million, 40 million, and Sam gets five.

SPEAKER_00 28:34

And maybe he's trying to diversify his resume, get into some comedy.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

Right. Because he was pretty much just as serious.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

He did Ted, right? Was that before or after this? 2012. Oh, yeah, it was after this then. After this, okay. So yeah, so maybe this is the thing. Right. Get you into some comedies.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

And it showed, hey, he can be funny. Wink wink.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

Yeah, not really, but yes.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

I do like Ted. I mean, I think that's more what's his name? McFarlane. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there are funny parts, but I think you're playing off McFarlane, who was, yeah, again, similar to this. Yeah. You know, but like I said, I give credit to Wahlbrook for doing this. It did open up other doors. Yes. It did re-establish him as his A-list. I don't think he's A-list, but whatever.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

You know what I was thinking was like, um I've been thinking this whole time about who could replace who could replace Wahlberg. That would have been better. That would have been better in this movie. We just did a movie, we just did Mystery Men. We did Ben Siller played Mr. Furious. That's a one-to-one comparison. The guy that like talks a big game but that can't really do anything, he's kind of ineffectual. Right. Just sli slide him in right that you know, that Wahlberg role. And then you got someone who's experienced and you still get the name, recognition, whatever. You know, uh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

Well, there's a thing in the beginning I know I was going was getting at earlier was when they're talking in Wahlberg's in Farrell's face at the beginning, and goes, you know, oh, I'm I'm a lion, and I would tack in your tune. He goes, Oh, really? And I won't spell it out, but you need to watch that banter between it's it is funny because it doesn't go the way he thought it was.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

And I feel like that I saw something I think that was improvised. Yeah. Or at least Farrell's response to it was because there's a scene I think where they show them doing that scene, and Wahlberg starts cracking up because he just never heard what is coming out of his mouth.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

Because it's factual. Yeah, that's the thing that threw him off. Like holy crap.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

Need a tuna, 800 pound tuna out in the ocean. Lions don't like to swim. Me and 20 of my friends, you know, it's like he's making the shit up. It's comedy.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

I mean, that's to me. I mean, there's times people at random moments we have moments of clarity where we just spill stuff, spew stuff out. But to be that guy constantly, right? Yeah. Because I've seen the outtakes from Anchorman and all that, and you're like, God, these guys are all of them, yeah, just spitting it out. I mean, right. I know that's practice because they do a lot of their improv, there's schools for that. But you can't, there's certain things you just can't teach.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

Right. I was gonna say that's just it's innate. Yeah, that's just intelligence. That's just trying stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

But again, I think to your point earlier about Adam McKay and Will Farrell and making someone like Wahlberg, who I don't really see him as an A-lister, maybe a B, you know, but he's been catapulted for whatever reason. Yeah, he made the studio's money, so now he's you know, well, that's what I was saying earlier.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

It's the Marky Mark thing, if we're being honest. I know I'm not I'm not joking.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

I believe you. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 31:29

It's still funny. It's just a matter of that's what put him on the radar, and then someone said, Oh, he's in commercials, let me put him in this little role. I think he was like that stalker boyfriend or some shit, like a long time ago. And it's like, oh, he can do that, and it's just like just in Timberlake, no different.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

Wahwork doesn't ruin the I still find it funny. I mean, he I think again they took him down a notch from just being the heavy macho and you know, playing like a Dwayne Johnson rock.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

They tried to make a parody of that, which I'm not sure he understood.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

Right. Yes, and then it played well between him and Farrell.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

Yeah. So that said, this movie's amazing. Oh, yeah. There's so many great improvisational talents.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

I'm gonna repeat myself comedy gold. Yes, it is genius.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

Like you said, from the top down from Samuel L. Jackson's cameo, he's amazing. He's hilarious. And The Rock is even good in this. Right. Um, and then on down, like it's just chock full of comedians that are great at improv improving.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

So, yeah, it's a thumbs up for me.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

Yes, same.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

Two thumbs up, then I don't care when you watch it, you're gonna have a I I'm not trying to preface things saying, but I do think you will have a great time watching this film.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

Yeah, I think it is and you can't help but to have a good time.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Oh, it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 32:40

Yeah. Hey, sorry to interrupt, but if you're enjoying the reviews, please take a second to like, rate, and subscribe to our podcast. We'd really appreciate it. And now back to the reviews. Okay, so uh my movie for this week was Smokey and the Bandit, part one. Uh Smoky and the Bandit was from 1977. I was how old then? I'm not gonna say. Okay. Uh yeah, I was really young. Let's put it that way. 1977 action comedy starring Burt Reynolds, Sally Field, Jerry Reed, and Jackie Gleason. Uh, this would have been, I looked this up earlier, been kind of the not the heyday of Burt Reynolds, as I think I was talking about this last week. Because they did Sharky's Machine and a few other things after this. That's when he really was like movie star, like A-list, the man, or whatever. But this is the beginning of it, definitely, if not the you know, early middle or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Um, so he was the movie. Um, as a matter of fact, there's a thing here that I saw that he's directed by Hal Needham, who was a stunt man in the 60s and 70s.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

I don't know, are you where with I've heard of Hal Needham, but I know this was his directorial debut.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Yes. So he had done so much stunt work, he had he was the stunt double for Bert Reynolds in a lot of his movies, right? And some other guy. And then he wrote this screenplay and said, Hey Bert, you want to do this? And I guess people were like, stunt man writing, you know, that's not a thing. But then Bert Reynolds was so cool with him.

SPEAKER_10 34:14

Right.

SPEAKER_00 34:15

He's like, Yeah, I can Bert Reynolds could green light something by his star power alone. So that's what happened. And next thing you know, it's this huge um franchise in a way um that they didn't foresee coming.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

Can I interject real fast? Yeah. So I'm gonna get ahead of ourselves. We the budget for this was 4.3 million and 77, that's huge. It grossed 127 million dollars. So that's your point that Burt Reynolds had that star for that he could help Greenlight, someone who had had no experience.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Said, I'll do it, and then okay.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Yeah, that's all you needed to know. Oh, Burt Reynolds attached, yes, let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 34:55

And that's that's the proof in the pudding right there.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

This guy took 4.3, and we're talking like I'm not even trying to extrapolate the number, but it's huge.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

Yeah. I mean Well, uh what it would make 120 something, it would be like half a billion in today's dollars. Right. That's amazing million, yeah. That's a uh yeah, that's a lot of money for a movie that's so thin on the plot. I mean, it's it's basically just a stuntman's opus, and and not sure.

SPEAKER_01 35:27

This was also the year that Star Wars came out, so this was the second highest grossing film behind Star Wars. Isn't that amazing?

SPEAKER_00 35:32

And it also was nominated for an Oscar, which Star Wars beats them out for editing.

SPEAKER_01 35:37

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 35:38

Uh anyway, so yeah, directed by Hal Needham. This is his directorial debut. Um Burt Reynolds uh played the title character Bandit, and his real name was Bo Darville.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

Right.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Something like that. It is correct. I will say that this takes place, I believe it starts in Atlanta or Georgia, at least.

SPEAKER_10 35:59

Right.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

And um, it's supposed to be all southern people, although it's you know, it doesn't, you know, people move wherever they want to move. But I did I my point is I just think it's kind of funny that Burt Reynolds is from, I want to say Michigan or something like that in real life. Okay. And he's trying this he's barely trying the accent every now and then he throws it in. It's like little inflection here and there, right? Just be just be from Michigan. Right. People from Michigan go to Atlanta. Yeah. Don't be don't don't try to throw that in. You know. Yeah. Because then Jerry Reed's got a hardcore accent, so it's kind of like by comparison, not so.

SPEAKER_01 36:30

I want to say him and Sally were dating at this time. Him and Sally Field.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

And that's interesting because Sally Field in this, she plays the stereotypical, I guess, New York liberal type, and she's talking about Steven Sonnheim and all this stuff, right? This guy wouldn't, if he's true Southern, quote unquote. Right. He wouldn't know any of the shit.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Vert Reynolds tries to downplay like who?

SPEAKER_00 36:50

Right. He plays You know Kyle Petty and what?

SPEAKER_01 36:54

Right. Well, no one that's we're jumping ahead, but there's a scene where she just keeps gabbing. She's trying to take this wedding dress off.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

And he puts they use C B radios, that's when they were huge back then. I remember that. And he puts the CV up next to the show.

SPEAKER_00 37:07

Did you have one? No, I didn't have one.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

I know somebody, I knew somebody that had one. Yeah. You know, we all knew somebody. I knew truck drivers and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Yeah, someone in the neighborhood always had one, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

I mean, I it sounded cool. I wish, you know.

SPEAKER_00 37:19

Yeah. You never knew who you're gonna talk to. That's the thrill of it. Right. People that are young and don't know what we're talking about. That was a thrill. You could, hey, I'm so-and-so, whatever. Anybody out there, click and no one would answer. Right. You know. But I think one time I get the cops on the phone or whatever. Wow, on the C. Yeah. They're like, You kids do, you know, they're trying to scare us or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 37:40

You damn kids.

SPEAKER_00 37:41

Yeah, we're coming to arrest you or some shit. It's like, oh shit, we'd throw it down. Anyway, I'm sorry, I cut you off.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

No, no, no. That was it, really. Just that they were dating, and yeah, you're right. She was a typical.

SPEAKER_00 37:50

You were saying there's a scene where she was taking her wedding dress off and just holding the C up to the receiver. Jerry Reed can hear it behind him in the truck.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

Right, and just like, what have you got in the car?

SPEAKER_00 37:59

Yeah, right. I wasn't sure about the whole love story thing, but it's not, it's it's a quibble.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

I mean Again, I want to say that might have been where Hal Needham didn't have that. And maybe because Bert.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

This is my woman, I'm dating her, throw her in. Throw her in.

SPEAKER_01 38:14

Well, okay, we'll make a little love, whatever. I mean, really, I think the concept I could see Needham was like, hey, the the thing of uh the story, the the plot is that the bandit is notorious throughout the movie, and he's uh propositioned this thing of getting this hundreds of cases of Texas Arcana, which is Texas, back to Georgia within a 28-hour period. Yes. It's 900 hour miles there, and it's 900 miles so 1800 miles round trip.

SPEAKER_00 38:46

And do you know why? It's considered bootlegging, and do you know why that is?

SPEAKER_01 38:50

No.

SPEAKER_00 38:50

Because coors at that time was not pasteurized. Oh. So it had to be like straight from the bottling plant to the refrigerator and you'd buy it. Bootlegging is it's considered bootlegging to move coors east of the Mississippi because it was unpasteurized, it had to be refrigerated or whatever. I looked this up because I don't care about coors or anything or any of that. But I guess it was like a status symbol in the East Coast to have coors at your parties and stuff. Oh. Kind of like how we would have Cuban cigars. Is that still legal? No.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

No, that's not illegal anymore.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

But it used to be when we were growing up, it's like Cuban cigar. Wow, that's fancy. You must know people that can smuggle it or where that's what this is. So that's the the backbone of the premise of the movie. That whole thing about him and Sally Field, like you said, he'd probably that's probably his real life woman, probably says, Yeah, just throw her, throw her in.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

Well, if you want me.

SPEAKER_00 39:38

Yeah, you gotta throw her in too. I don't know what her career was like at that point.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

She was on her way up. I mean, she had done she was what, the flying down on TV, and she hadn't started, she hadn't won her Oscars yet, but she was on the up swing because of she's a good actress.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

She was only 30 or something, I guess, or early 30s.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

She said she was 28 in the movie. Yeah. That might have been true.

SPEAKER_00 39:57

Yeah. In 77, so um, so anyway, so we meet um Jerry Reed's character, and uh that guy is one hell of a musician. I mean, I'm talking, I'm talking about I mean, our frame of reference might be Van Halen or something like that for guitar or whatever, for we're that age group. Right. But this guy was like, he could smoke he, you know, Van Halen would have to bring him the newspaper or whatever in the morning. He was that good in the guitar. Wow. And he wrote all the songs. I think they they won some awards or whatever for this movie. Anyway, um, rambling. He plays Cletus Snow, who's like a truck driver, and I guess him and Bandit are have done runs before, not this big apparently.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

Right. This is huge. I mean$80,000 is what's on the line.

SPEAKER_00 40:38

Yeah,$80,000 for a truck, right? No. At first, I guess that originally was supposed to be they were gonna win a truck or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

He was gonna buy a new truck, he said.

SPEAKER_00 40:46

Right, yeah. And then I think it was just cash or whatever. But anyway, um, they have they meet at this um like a trucker's rodeo, right, where we see we meet the Enus brothers, or father and son, right? Yeah, yeah. Or is it are they brothers or it's probably father and son, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 41:03

There's big Enus and Little Enus.

SPEAKER_00 41:05

I want to say Pat McCormick was big, and then Paul Wins, who also was a musician, yeah, played little Enus. Wrote songs for the Carpenters and the Lowboat theme.

SPEAKER_01 41:14

And he had a couple hits himself, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

But yeah, uh how tall is that dude? I mean, he's I want to say like 5'4. Yeah, he must be really short. Yeah. Anyway, so they meet the Enos there, and they basically take up this challenge of uh transporting 400 cases of cores uh from Texarkana to uh Atlanta, right? Which would be uh bootlegging, which means that they get caught, they go to jail. Probably nominal fine or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

Real quick, there's a little thing where they show a truck getting caught and the guy's like, do they open up and there's cores, right? Hey boy, that's bootlegging and we see a little prelude to that.

SPEAKER_00 41:52

I didn't understand that when I was a kid watching this movie. I was like, Right.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

Now makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

It's illegal to have beer, I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

But now that you spelled it out, wow, that's cool though. I mean, it's a little tidbit of information and history, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:04

You know, so that's cool. Yeah, and the whole status symbol thing is too, is like you know, people would brag about, oh, I have we have courage at our party. It's like, whoa, wow, you must you know you must have money, you must know people. Wow, that's crazy. And now it's like of course get it like the corner store or whatever. Uh so basically, um they have the trucker radio trucker rodeo, they accept the challenge. Bandit goes to uh meet um Jerry Reed's character, and then you know they agree to go doing the run do the run or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 42:36

Cletus doesn't want it, he says, Oh, I'm done, done, and he goes, Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

And he's half asleep, and he goes, There's two more sequels after this.

SPEAKER_01 42:43

80,000. And he's like, What? What?

SPEAKER_00 42:45

Hey, yeah, 80,000. And he says something like that, some weird Chinese accent. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

3000.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

Yeah. So anyway, they agree to do it. Um they come across, I think, Sally Fields' character first. She's getting out of a car where she's taking her wedding dress off.

SPEAKER_01 43:03

She says just married on it.

SPEAKER_00 43:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

And this is the subplot, not to get to cut you off and jump ahead. Where we find out who she was supposed to marry, and that's why we get right.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

She's supposed to be married to Junior, who is Sheriff Buford T. Justice's son. But she's getting out of a car and says just married, but it's just her in the car?

SPEAKER_01 43:21

They were she was on her way to the wedding.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

Oh, okay. And she's later on, Justice says we saw her leaving the church, and he makes that joke about her ass is wiggling, or she ran down the aisle, whatever, and he's all getting all happy, and he's oh, he forgets, oh, that's my son's woman, or whatever. Anyway, it's a mess. I think that that I think that plot was thrown on after at that kind of further proves my point.

SPEAKER_10 43:44

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

That I think this was tacked on after.

SPEAKER_10 43:47

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

Uh, anyway, so yeah, so she's on the run from um her husband who she left at the altar.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

Her potential, would have been potential in law.

SPEAKER_00 43:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

Well, she alludes to why she left and why she was getting married.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Did she?

SPEAKER_01 44:00

What'd she say? It was just brief. Like, do you ever just meet somebody you think, and then you're like, no, I don't want to I can't do this.

SPEAKER_00 44:06

No.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Something I'm I'm not paraphrased, I'm just kind of uh like they didn't have anything in common.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

I mean, if you get to the point where you're marrying somebody, you you'd think you would have figured that out by that point.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

But yeah, it's real quick and she's she just explains why and then he but I I don't think she told Bo that that was who she was marrying. It's never really discussed.

SPEAKER_00 44:27

No, that is a good point. Um seems like you read the Wikipedia thing. You probably saw the thing with Gene Siskel. I'm just going by what the movie just could be. In Wikipedia it says that Gene Siskel he gave it two out of four because he says it's a plot hole that Bandit never knows why the the Texas cop is chasing him, and they never reveal it.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

Yeah, they didn't.

SPEAKER_00 44:46

To to Bandit, at least.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 44:49

She's right there. She could have just told him, Oh, yeah, I was married to Junior, that guy that's gonna marry James, and then it clears things up, but we never you just think, well, Jackie Leeson's character is just crazy. He's just like he and that's kind of funny. That's uh that's what I always thought. But then you go, oh, that that's his son, and he's trying to defend his son's honor or whatever, even though he's using his official position, which is not right. But yeah, Jane Siskel kind of um knocked a few points off for that because she didn't in and to to piggyback off that, I didn't find that at all.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

I mean, I get it, we both agree that was just a subplot thrown in to get me, my girlfriend, do what you gotta do. And it didn't deter from the movie. It's still, I mean, like I told you, I hadn't seen it, it's probably they were doing a r fathom events, and I saw it because I had for the longest time had never seen it.

SPEAKER_00 45:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

And I was like, wow, why did I not see this movie? Because it's for what it is, it's still a hilarious movie. It's a good time at the movies.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

And I'm not gonna go over the the plot in depth. I mean, it's basically uh we meet Beau4T Justice, who has these three kids uh pulled off to the side of the road, and it's old school southern law enforcement that kind of you know they do stuff that's a little outside the law, but you look the other way or whatever. He's got that kind of thing going on. But basically, he just from there he latches on to Bandit and they chase each other, and right it's a litany of stunts, so it makes sense now that I know that's a stunt man that directed the movie. Right. There, I mean, now they're doing awards for stunts, just now, right?

SPEAKER_01 46:20

Yeah, they just added that, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 46:22

Now, if this was back then, they'd have to win something. Oh god. That you know, all the jumps they did, and I mean there's all the high speed. That's no there's no CG.

SPEAKER_01 46:32

Driving even.

SPEAKER_00 46:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

I mean, because that that's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

Yeah. And I s I read that uh Jerry Reed and Spurt Reynolds did a lot of their own, not everything, but right, a lot of their own driving.

SPEAKER_01 46:43

And so you're Jerry Reed's driving a 18-wheeler. Yeah. And uh I mean, granted, it looks faster, but still to drive it that credibly and that confidently.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

Yeah, that's a challenge. You're you're earning your money for that. Oh, yeah. Um, so yeah, that's basically it. They go back and forth. Uh Beaver Chief Justice is trying to catch the band, and he stays one step ahead of them. The only thing I will say is that it's basically just he chases him, he gets bandit gets away from some kind of way, and then he catches up to him again, and he gets away. I will say there's a scene where um they're gonna drop off, they call her a frog, her name is Carrie.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

That's her nickname.

SPEAKER_00 47:18

They're gonna drop her off at this diner or whatever, and then get her on a bus stop, bus station. And um Bandit goes in, he's sitting there waiting for her or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 47:28

He wants two burgers, right?

SPEAKER_00 47:30

Right, and then Justice comes in right after him, and he doesn't know what bandit looks like, and he's right next to him at the at the bar, like ordering, and he orders a Diablo sandwich and a Dr. Pepper. And Bandit's fucking with him, like, oh, you know, let me pay for that or whatever, you know. Right. You know, he's getting he's getting like sauce out of his shirt, he's like wiping it off, and he's a doctor pepper. He just slaps his hand away. Thanks, boy, or whatever. Just slaps it away.

SPEAKER_09 47:54

I'm gonna show you, man. Let me have a dabblow sandwich, doctor. Make it fast. I'm gonna die. You must be in a hell of a hurry, huh, Sheriff? Get your ass off that boy. Oh, yeah, that's let me let me help you out here. Get that off there. That's away from an office. Who you chasing? Somebody chasing you? Nobody chasing me, boy. All away from that kind of thing. Really? Bank robber? Bank robber. Bank driving a baby kid alongside of what this dude is doing. Almost killed one of law, officer. Driving through people's backyard, knocking down mailboxes, got a broad in the car, took across the state line, got the man out. You think he's got a permission, and that's didn't I? I got behind you. What a oh, let me peaceful. Let me pick. No, no, you're an officer, though. I'd I'd be honest. Much obliged. I gotta take this quick. All right, right back, Vera.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

Just need it. I that that scene to me is funny.

SPEAKER_01 49:35

He doesn't yell at the hey, you want something, boy?

SPEAKER_00 49:38

To his son.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

Jackie Gleason, a lot of his one-liners and his Oh my god, it's comedy gold.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

Yeah. A lot of his stuff was improvised. Again, talking about improvisation.

SPEAKER_01 49:47

Right. And me, but I mean, you're talking about Jackie Gleason, who at one time, a lot of people won't know the name, was a comedy genius back in his day. Yeah. I mean, he did the uh what was the show? The Honeymooners. The Honeymooners. Only one season, but you know, he's a very much a hilarious guy who, you know, for lived off that, did it. I mean, I think he did one serious role where he was in the hustler he played. Uh but I'm I'm kind of giving a point of reference of what he was. Yeah. But uh yeah, he was just a really funny guy, and this I think helped because he kind of meandered through this time, and this kind of helped get him back in the game.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

Yeah, because honeymooners would have been that was 30s, late 30s, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 50:32

So and like I said, one season. But he was still able to parlay that into other ventures.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

And he is maybe the best part of this movie. I mean, if you boil it down to like Burt Reynolds as the bandit, I mean it's literally right there in the title, Smokey and the Bandit. He's smokey. I mean, it's those two against each other, amazing. Just their their banter back and forth, and Jackie Gleason with his his southern improvisation, you know. Put the evidence in it.

SPEAKER_09 51:07

There's no way, no way that you could come from my loins. Soon as I get home, the first thing I'm gonna do is punch your mama in the mouth.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

When I get home, I'm gonna punch your mama right in the mouth. He calls the guy at TikTok and all this other stuff. It's like, it's just like stuff like that. It's just hilarious. But I know that this one did so well, as we said, second highest growing to the movie of '77, behind only Star Wars, which is, you know, I mean, for whatever it's worth, Star Wars is seen as a classic, classic franchise, and Smoky the Man, it's kind of like, oh, that was a nice movie, even though in reality they were right there together.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

I think it's on par with it because it's over the years, it's become really a classic. And not a cult, but just a classic. I mean, it's one of those, and I was thinking as I watched it, it has that 70s vibe, and it's just a fun movie, even for that time.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

The movie itself is a great, entertaining movie.

SPEAKER_01 52:06

I just think, yeah, it's it's held its worth to me. It's still, I mean, re-watch re-watching it again was just so hilarious. It's just a good time.

SPEAKER_00 52:15

It really takes you back. I mean, if you're not of that age group, then sure this will be a new experience for you. But for me, it just takes me back. I mean, especially the idea that as he's making his way through all these these, you know, cities and stuff in the south on his way to Atlanta, like everybody has a C B. Oh, yeah. There was that time back then, it was 73 to like early 80s, maybe. Yeah, everyone had a C B back then. Um, you know, the whole the Transam. I'm a God. Oh my god. Well Pontiac, and if you had the if you had a when we were growing up in that time here, if you had a Pontiac Grant, you know, at that with the with the Firebird, especially on the hood, you were rich. Yeah. You you just like how much money do you have?

SPEAKER_01 52:57

Well, these the sales for that car took off, obviously, after that movie, because they were everywhere. I remember, and I'm I'm aging myself, but I don't care. I know how old I was in 77, but yeah, I mean it's that was what angel fight pants and all that. All anyway, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:13

It's I remember you would see those cars all of a sudden they started proliferating in like you know, the years after that. And like I said, you had to have the the firebird or whatever because some of them were just black or whatever, they would have the Pontiac, but it wouldn't have that, you know. It's just like with Starskin Hatch when they had that Torino or whatever, the red grant, right?

SPEAKER_01 53:30

You just made me think as you were sitting here, the scene where he the Enos's are you know uh propositioning bandit to get this, right? And he goes, Well, I'm gonna need you have to pay him for the beer, and you know, little Enus has his fat wad and he has all the hundreds of well, I'm gonna need this. Yeah, well, I'm gonna need some a car, yeah, a fast car.

SPEAKER_00 53:48

Faster than that, right? He keeps pulling out bills.

SPEAKER_01 53:51

Oh my god, it's hilarious. I mean, that's a lot of money, even for back then, but that's how rich they were, that's what they were showing. Yeah, depicting, like, hey, money's no object, whatever you need. Yeah, but to think about it. I mean, how much a car back then, how much that car cost compared to what it is today?

SPEAKER_00 54:08

Oh, right, right. I mean, classic car. Right. I don't know if they're literally classic cars, but I I think they should be.

SPEAKER_01 54:15

Yeah. I mean, like I said, it it gave Pontiac a new life with those cars. They took off.

SPEAKER_00 54:20

Yeah, because like you you would imagine that if someone said, Oh, I have the original, well, one of the original cars from Smokey and Man, you'd think that'd be worth some money.

SPEAKER_01 54:27

Oh, I'm sure it is.

SPEAKER_00 54:28

I don't know if that even exists or because they had to have something they could crash.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:32

But you would think they'd have like one or two just to drive around.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

I'm sure they did, right.

SPEAKER_00 54:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:37

But I there's a also real quick, there's a scene where Smokey's evading a bandit. Or he's the bandit. He says Smokey, I'm sorry. Splinterism. Where he's evading and he looks and it's dark at night, and he stops and he's creeping up and he looks at the camera and smiles. It's that little wink wink, you know?

SPEAKER_00 54:54

Yeah, I'm Bert Reynolds, I'm a star. Right. You love it.

unknown 54:57

Right.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:58

Oh, was he wrong? No. No. And I guess it's a fantastic movie for what it is.

SPEAKER_00 55:02

Oh, speaking of that, that the that first scene where you first meet him, he's got his hat down. Oh, yeah. He pulls it up, it's Burt Reynolds. That that's right. That's the money shot right there. Roll the credits. You could tell the way they filmed that, it's like he was a superstar.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

Yeah. So And that's our point about without him, you don't have this movie.

SPEAKER_00 55:18

Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 55:19

And I mean, you were talking about Mark Wahlbury. I don't really think even at that time, I mean, could Clennis would have pulled off? Because that's when he was at I don't I don't see it. No, I don't think so. Right. I mean, there's a certain actors are set to play certain roles, and this he was born to play.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

Yeah, and he kind of played similar roles in the movies after this too. So you can kind of tell he had like a a niche or whatever. Sure, you know.

SPEAKER_01 55:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 55:42

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:43

I mean, I would I'm I'm just thinking that said that, could it be made today? With I mean I don't think I I mean I would hope not, because I think it should just stay what it is.

SPEAKER_00 55:53

Well it's funny you mentioned that because in 2020, Danny McBride thought about making um a series. Oh god. And with what's his name? Um I want to say is it Seth McFarland? Oh yeah. And that you know, it's 2026, it hasn't happened, so I'm assuming that's probably not gonna happen, which is probably good because I like I like just having that snapshot of 1977 in America and just the way it is. I don't I don't want to updated maybe it would be okay if they made it a period series, but I don't think they do that. It's probably gonna cost too much money. But if they update it, like they try to do it good times, boo.

SPEAKER_01 56:33

Right, and that's what I think would happen. So I'm agreeing with what you're saying that Yeah, is leave it the way it is. Right. Yeah, some things just need to be left alone. Not everything has to be a legacy sequel or whatever, just yeah. That's a moment in time. Right. A little encapsulated, just okay, we can go.

SPEAKER_00 56:48

Go back and watch that, but don't try to make a new thing of the same IP just so you can introduce it to another generation. Let them see the all the original one. Right. There's nothing wrong with it. Explain the context. That's right. It's history, if nothing else. Thank you. I like the fact that you know, um, you I don't know if it comes across in the movie, but it was a what's the word? I was gonna say it's a freer time, but it was more of a um I don't know, things weren't so serious, I guess. Right.

SPEAKER_01 57:13

I know you read my mind. I was just saying that that snapshot, like you were saying earlier, not to cut you off.

SPEAKER_00 57:18

Yeah. We're just trying to get beer. Right. And what's the point of beer? Just to have a party. Right.

SPEAKER_01 57:22

There's nothing, that's it. But I mean, it took me back to when I was a kid. Those were innocent times, right? A little bit more innocent. Maybe, yeah, we weren't as worldly back then or whatever, but still that snapshot, it just has a special place for you and me. Because we're growing up at that time.

SPEAKER_00 57:36

Right. We we weren't adults, CB radio and the fast cars, you're a little young kid.

SPEAKER_01 57:41

I mean, it's like well, going back to what? Up in smoke, the eight-track tapes and all that, right? I mean, we laugh, but it it's part of our history. We grew up with all that, right? And now I know we discussed this on podcasts, but physical media is making a comeback.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:54

And we can see why.

SPEAKER_00 57:55

Yeah, and even if you don't see your life necessarily on that screen, it still takes you back to what your life was. Right. You know, in 77 or 78 or whatever. Right. I lived. I think it's still fun.

SPEAKER_01 58:05

Yeah, I lived in the Bay Area, probably.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

You didn't have no job. Well, I was only we were in Fremont at the time.

SPEAKER_10 58:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

But yeah, it was just fun. I mean, I I what I read real quick when we were talking is it played on the drive-in at first and then it exploded from there. Yeah. So but that goes back to the drive-in, you know, those are obscure, but they're a fun time as well. Yeah. But again, it encapsulates a time that I think for anyone who hasn't seen it, you're not revisiting, but visit it for the first time.

SPEAKER_00 58:40

Check it out. Yeah, I think uh I'm trying to think of if I'm seeing this movie for the first time. I think it's still a good entertaining movie. It's not, you know, again, it's not the the uh it's not the sharpest plot or whatever, or you know, most you know, well thought out or whatever that I think it's just a good fun time. I mean, I guess I I made a note that people will watch Fast and Furious, and that to me seems fucking idiotic. But I don't mind that necessarily if you but if you if that person watched this and was like, oh, I don't get it. It's like how do you what how do you not see the the correlation between that to where you are?

SPEAKER_10 59:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 59:17

You know, how do you not see where it started from? These at least those were people, there's no CGI, that was a real stunt driver doing that shit.

SPEAKER_10 59:25

Right.

SPEAKER_00 59:25

You know, you see there's one scene where Buford T Justice drives his sheriff's car underneath that sim light and cuts the top off. There's a person in there. I mean, you know, and the scene where Smoky uh well bandits driving down the freeway and she jumps out in front of the car as a person, it's probably not Sally Field, but still Yeah, someone who's like, I'm like, oh my god, you can't do that now. That would be CG or something. But yeah, that's back in the day, that's what they did, because they, you know, they cared about their art. They wanted to make something that they believed in and they pulled out the stops or whatever, you know. Right. But yeah. So yeah, oh, I was gonna say real quick, is closing up. Uh yeah, you already got the budget. Uh Rod Tomatoes, 71%, that's actually pretty good. Yeah. Um, and I put that Gene Siskel gave it two out of four. Um, that's not too bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:14

I mean, it's a minor equivalent. I his point for anybody who thinks that that's uh a blown blows the movie, I'll disagree. I like I said, I I saw that it's never fully explained.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:25

You know, he just thinks I think the bandit thinks that, oh, it's just a smokey who's Well he got to ask at one point, why is this guy why are you on my head? I think he asked Justice, like, why are you chilling me?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:36

And it never spelled out, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:38

But he just might think this guy is Well, Justice like tries to, you know, the man act you took kidnap that woman. He's like tacking up all you fake, trumped up charges. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:46

But it like I said, it didn't ruin it for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:49

And if that's what really bothered Gene, well, you're you're in the wrong way.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:53

You're looking too hard for the plot if you that's the case. Right. It's not one of those movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:57

So again, and we discussed about Siskel and Ebert. I mean, they think they're above, and whatever. I just think sometimes, and I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, sometimes you just gotta watch a movie just for a movie. Don't get so caught up, you know, that you don't have fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:14

Well, don't compare it to other movies. Like don't compare it to like, you know, Citizen Kane or something. Oh, yeah. You need to have a comedy file. Oh, yeah. Where you have all the comedies lined up and you go, okay, for comedies, how does this rank? And then you'll stop doing all the other shit about, you know, right. This plot thing didn't make sense or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:29

It's like we said it before, not to cut you off. There is no absolute, especially in comedy. Sure. Just go with it.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:36

Yeah. Well, that's it. That's all I have. We're already gone late here.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:39

So Yeah, that's all I have. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:41

Uh two thumbs up for this. Oh yeah. Yes. Okay, great. Great time. All right. So that's all I have. I don't know what we're gonna do in next week, but we'll figure it out, kids. We'll do something. All right. All right, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

That's a wrap for today's movie reviews. Thanks for listening. And remember, if you like what we've heard, make sure you like, subscribe, and rate our show. And then let's go get some ice cream.