Health is Enjoying the Little Things

Both hosts bring a topic of discussion for the day...and neither of them are dark and heavy!!!  Surprise!

What is health and how do we achieve it?  And then we discussed what makes life fun for us.  Just a chill Friday discussion.

Enjoy!

- T & J

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Heavy.

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Are you sure? Positive.

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Well, heavy in the context of it'll probably keep us away from politics.

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Quaitey? Quaity?

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Is this picking me up or is my mic too high? I'm good?

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I think your mic's just a little too far away. Bring it in. Bring it in, homie.

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Now I'm here. Is that better? Okay. Now it's shooting me better.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

According to this is cool. This is audio engineering visually instead of with, you know, your ears. We're watching the waveform. We're trusting the waveform. What? I mean, if the waveform's there, it's getting the data.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

There's two middle-aged guys trusting the uh technology.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Ranch, you better record, you son of a bitch!

SPEAKER_02 0:57

Well, welcome everybody back to No Plan No Problem. This is George and Trent here again on another podcast. Uh, thank you again for joining. We always uh love to appreciate our audience. And for those of you who have been following us, maybe from the beginning or maybe from a little while ago, uh, we thank you for keeping up and hopefully you're sharing this with everybody.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

That's the best intro this show's ever had. You're it now. You get to do it every time.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

You're just passing the buck, is what you're trying to do. Dun dun dun. Nice try then. But I don't I don't take well to compliment, so it's not gonna work. Um anyway, uh today I thought that we could um talk about something that I think can spiral into many different things as it usually does. Um but I wanted to talk about nutrition and fitness.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

Nutrition and fitness. Yeah. Oh dear.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

Um The reason is is because you know, lately I have started a journey uh in terms of just working out, and I know that you've already talked in previous podcasts about being on your journey in terms of you know changing diet a little bit, trying to get rid of that visceral fat.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

It is going poorly.

unknown 2:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Well, and here's the thing, right? You can listen, it's like one of those things, right? You go to ten different doctors, they tell you ten different things over the same concept. You go to ten different fitness coaches, they'll probably tell you almost ten different things. And I've been listening to a lot of different things out there in terms of what to do, what you need, all this. I've even researched, I even asked AI, right? In terms of like Wow, you went all in. Yeah. Well, I asked it to compile things, information for me. I'm not just like straight up. But anyway, it's it's interesting because it's, you know, even without AI, right? It's all it's all over my social media. And of course, funny enough, right? Now that I'm working out and I talk about it, I get all these Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

The instant that you start delving into it, it's the it's like the algorithm grabs you and it's like, you sir, are about to meet some interesting people.

SPEAKER_02 2:53

It's annoying though. And they're all the same, you know. It's just like uh it's mostly like the the Fitbot app type things of like get your workouts on your own, and I'm like, whatever. I just want to do my own thing, you know? Um because for me, my journey is I want to um get to the point where you know I I use this phrase, I I don't want to look strong, I want to be strong. Okay. Yeah. And that's good. The thing is, my back, right? My back is all messy. Very tricky. Um you you've you've had your your chair as well.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

The back is the linchpin to everything working.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

Yeah, and the core, right? And I've always struggled with that, and I'm finally done with it because I'm done washing my car and then having to pay the price for the next week of barely being able to move around.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

Right? Uh I'm done with having a hard day at work and then coming home and I can't play with my kid because my back hurts, right? So I really just got to the point where I'm done, and it's been the motivation's been a mix of things. Um one is obviously my own pain, but I've always had pain for years, right? And that never was enough to motivate me. Um number one is I'm I'm I'm surrounded by younger people, you know? Is that what I'm saying? Like your job? Yeah, and and stuff like that. And so, you know, I'm just like, oh yeah, these young people, man, they're all like they're kicking my ass, you know.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Your your age is starting to show a little bit. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_02 4:15

I don't care for this. The other thing is that people around me my age or older, right, they're also starting to start to get things going.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

They're at the doctors, they're you're you're either falling apart or putting yourself back together at 50. Like that's how it works.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

I'm I'm trying to put myself back together.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Uh yeah. I before we get going too far, how important do you think that initial motivation is to the whole overall project?

SPEAKER_02 4:43

I've been thinking a lot about that as well. I d I don't think that motivation is the key. Um and if it is, I think it's a more of a subconscious thing. I I don't think I can pinpoint a thing where I'm saying, this is my motivator, I'm gonna put this up on the wall, and then I'm gonna blow I don't usually function that way, right? Um typically, like with my job, for instance, right, why I'm so good at it is because I discipline myself in it, I triage my work, but I try to look at the components of like what is needed and what has impact. Um, it also causes frustration like crazy because other people don't usually think that way.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

It's hard to be the only person on the staff that's working smarter, not harder. You just you feel like everyone is counterproductive. Yeah, I feel you.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

Yeah, and and again, there's there's probably a little arrogance with that too, right? Because not everybody is, you know. Yeah, yeah, well. Have the all be all. Well, but you know, m my main thing is what's the impact, right? Um and what are we trying to accomplish? And yeah, other I think other jobs, why I don't work other jobs, is you know, the the impact is are you making money? Right?

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Right.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

Uh whereas my job that's not at all the case.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

Yeah, it's more layered.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

You know? So for me, I it's easy to be motivated on a daily on my job, but for something like my fitness and my nutrition um and by nutrition I mean like my dieting really, right? Um and then you can clump in your mental health into that as well. You can't escape it, they're all interlinked.

SPEAKER_00 6:20

Damn straight.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Um so yeah, I mean part of part of my journey is also working on my mental health, right? So when I go work out and I can get progress going, I can feel good physically, and then that makes me feel good mentally because I accomplished that goal. So the mental health doesn't come from the physical health necessarily, it comes from accomplishing the goal. Right? At the same time, as I'm learning, right, it's like, oh well, you have to drink more water, and you have to eat more vegetables, and you have to get your vitamins. So naturally you're more incentivized to do that, right? So like they it's kind of perpetual and it's kind of interlinked, right? Is as if you want to get stronger, if you want to get you good through a good workout, you also need to do these other things, which also means your recovery time, which also means your sleep needs to get better. Yeah. So all of these things are intertwined.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

Health is health is everything that you do.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Yeah, it's really it's holistic, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:17

And it's one of the great failures of modern society is not understanding what health really is. Yeah. That it is a complete picture, it is the holistic view of a human. But yeah, yeah, the irony, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:34

From up I I work at a public health organization, my I'm a health educator, it's all about public health, it's all about getting people to understand that. And so my journey is also embedded with like I maybe I need to go on this journey myself to really understand what it's like to go through it before I start telling people, here's what you gotta do. That's that's cool. Yeah. So, I mean, I guess to answer your question, yeah, there's there's all these motivators that are within that, but it's not just one thing, it's a multitude of things. But ultimately, the the only motivator that I can really pinpoint down is just like I don't want life to keep creeping up on me. I know I'm not gonna control everything. Interesting, right? Right, for sure. There's just things like you know, I've I've had seizures, can't control that. That's just random, right? And I'm working on trying to kind of balance that out in terms of what I want that to look like in my health, right? Uh, if I want to stay on medication or not, and things of that nature. Um, same thing with my back, right? At this point, that's not something that's gonna go away and change, right? It's it's a chronic condition that's always going to be there. Now it's about managing it. Um, my gut issues, right? Uh, again, trying to figure that out, trying to deal and battle with my health insurance and all this stuff. It's it's it's been a pain, it's been a struggle. Um, trying to get all these tests done and things like that to try to pinpoint it and narrow it down.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

Right. Sometimes I went through the whole thing, and you know what I came out the other end learning? No idea.

SPEAKER_02 9:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Your timing on this uh this particular subject is pretty amazing. Yesterday I had my annual wellness visit with my primary care physician, the one and only Dr. James Brown. Uh I picked him for his name, and it turns out he's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

He actually believes in cognitive behavioral therapy, and that the secret to holistic health is to change your habits into good habits. And mental health is definitely a part of that. He's he did his own podcast called Good Medicine Explained. Uh very briefly, he did it during the pandemic when he couldn't his office hours were all wack-a-doo, whatever. But uh, I listened to a few episodes of that and I was like, man, this guy really gets like health the way I see health. He he's very frustrated with the healthcare insurance versus provider mechanism, you know. But this is a this is a wise dude. And he he and I sat down and talked about my health yesterday. Um I need to lose weight. I need to lose both my visceral fat, which is the real problem that I have, but also a little subcutaneous fat, too. Look, I'm a tubby fellow. I'm kind of winny the poo.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

What's interesting is like, sure, right? You can you can get more for let's just be realistic about it. But like I look at you, I don't think like, oh, transoberweight or trans obese or anything like that. I don't even see that or think about that.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

It's because I wear wonderful black t-shirts that that spelt me down.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

Look, like obviously you want to get to a point where it's healthy and it helps prevent problems, but in comparison, I guess, relative to the majority or the average person.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

And I'm recovering from a from a back strain or a back issue. It's actually the continuation of a of a long-term. I I had an industrial accident 20 years ago, uh, and I basically have lost one of the discs in my back. It's just it's no longer functional. And every once in a while I pinch the nerve and it it wrecks me. Right.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

And losing weight would help with that.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

So losing weight, the the secret is is if I lose weight, I lower my center of gravity and which takes pressure off that specific part of your spine, which allows your posture to be better. And it's one of those things that as he's discussing it with me, he's like, you need to remember to that when you do your workouts, and I have special workouts that I do that are designed to not put additional pressure on my spine itself, but to to strengthen the muscles surrounding it in different ways. Like there's one that's a cockroach. I lay on my back with my arms and legs up, and I'm basically you move in in concert, and all of that is putting stress on your core, your stomach, your abs, also your glutes and your lower back. But because you're laying on it flat on your back, there's no additional pressure on your spine. I also do these things where I lean against the wall and I twist my upper torso or my my torso, and as long as you keep your hips centered, you get this tremendous stretch and extension that's really good for your upper back. So I'm doing all of these, and he says, You gotta remember to do them all. You can't be like, well, I'll do this one that I am really good at and just shine on the rest of them. You know, I gotta do my squats, I gotta do my cockroaches, I gotta do my wall pushes and or push-ups, wall pushups and things like that. You gotta do them all. And it was a great little visit about just losing weight the right way. Yeah, and for me, it's targeted, it has to be targeted. I can't just start running.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

Because that will that will melt my subcutaneous fat, but it will basically increase my visceral fat, which is my body's way of protecting itself.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

Visceral fat is directly tied to stress, and that's again, my mental health is a part of this. I'm way too stressed out for a guy who doesn't work. Yeah. I mean, well, raising kids is a job. Right. And they can be very stressful. Mine are good kids, so it's really not that bad. As long as I stay out of their room, I'm okay. The instant I walk in there, I can feel my blood pressure hit the ceiling, and I'm like, I gotta get out of this place. Not only that, but I'm I probably shouldn't say this, but they're starting to smell a little funky because they're becoming little adults. Right. And I'm like, I don't like that at all.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

Now I open the window and then I leave the room. Anyway, I'm working on a holistic health journey too.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

But my version, I like, I read articles all the time. I've got my uh my health app on my phone, the hinge help health app that is part of my wife's insurance, yeah, uh their health benefits, healthcare benefits thing. It's a free, it's free to us. Um so all of these, all of these things that we have access to, all this information we have access to. And you're right. Some of it tells you to do this, but not that. And then the next thing you watch or or read tells you the opposite, and you're like, well, now I gotta find somebody to break the tie. Yeah, you know, so I'm constantly trying to stay up to date on the right nutrition, and I think the right exercise.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

That's become the issue. Like lots of things, right? A lot of this has become commercialized, commodified, uh obsessive, right? There's people out there who are just like obsessed with the fitness world now, and everyone's into it now, right? And then when I say everyone, right, it's a generalization. But there's so many more than before, right? And it's all about um for me, I think a lot of people do it because it's uh it's something to do. It's something that they can control, right? It's something that they can focus on. Um, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. There are those people that where it's vanity, right? Uh they want to look good.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

People who work out in front of mirrors, you know. And so I'm checking my style, bro.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

And there and there's there's a there's enough of those where the the advertisements and the and the mainstream still dictates itself towards that because what is what you end up hearing a lot of is how do I get in fit fast.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

Right.

SPEAKER_02 15:16

And so a lot of the information we're hearing that's probably contradictory is contradictory because it's all about how do you get there quickly. Right. Right. And I think that's been the problem. Um, so I've been on this journey since the beginning of February, right?

SPEAKER_00 15:31

So you two months in?

SPEAKER_02 15:33

Yeah, two months in. Almost three. Um, yeah, actually two and a half months, you know. But I remember in February, it was like I took it slow. Uh-huh. I wasn't pressuring myself. If I missed a day, it wasn't a big deal. I even missed a week because I had family who was visiting. Um, I said I'm not worried about upping my weights or upping my reps or whether I feel it or anything like that. I'm just getting my body moving and I'm getting my body used to it. And I'm finding a routine and I'm finding which exercise I like and which is exercises I don't like, and blah, blah, blah. Where I feel it, when I don't feel it, things of that nature. And I'm asking questions, right? I asked my doctor questions, I asked my chiropractor the other day, like, hey, can you show can you watch my deadlift to make sure I'm doing it right? Because I don't think I am, right? And sure enough, I wasn't. And I determined the other day, like, yeah, I'm not ready for these yet, and I'm okay with that. Right? And so till this day, like I've been upping some things that I've shown tremendous progress in, other things I've let go of, and other things I haven't moved at all, and I'm completely okay with all of it. And that's to me that's been the key is like patience.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

And so don't rush yourself or get frustrated.

SPEAKER_02 16:37

I've thrown in wisdom this time around. Oh, right? It's one of my favorite words. Yeah, so wisdom, wisdom I think is key in to have success. And I think this is the thing that we often miss. You were talking about a staple in society where it's just become this thing where it's such a problem for a lot of people. And a lot of it is the wisdom to have patience and the wisdom to know that all the advice isn't meant for you. Right. It's it's meant for so many different things.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

It could all be right. But it but there are determining factors that you have to dial in.

SPEAKER_02 17:13

Yeah. They don't take into that, you know, the things you hear aren't going to take into care of your your stress levels, right. Uh what you do for a living, uh, who your household is, past injuries, uh, your particular mental health issues you might be dealing with, right? So I have depression, right? So like to even start to articulate what a depressed mind feels like while they're working out. Yeah.

unknown 17:37

Right.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

It's not pleasant.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

It's it's it's it's it's weird, right? And and here's the thing, like I used to have to listen to like pump me up music. Like a lot of people do. Like I had the tiger started out, or to rock. Survivor, baby. Or eventually get into some like 80s rock, ACDC, just to get me going, right? And I I realized that that was kind of creating like a facade of like I'm pumped, I'm pumped, I'm pumped, I'm pumped, and then the music's off, and then boom, I'm done, and then I don't feel good anymore.

unknown 18:13

Right?

SPEAKER_01 18:13

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

But now that I've been going slow, right, and been taking my time, like I'm like, I don't have time for an hour and a half or two hours of music, right? Um, so I listen to a podcast, or I watch a show, or I watch a bunch of different YouTube videos, and I mix it up, right? And now I've been working out to a lot of different things, and now like it's it's just a different journey.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Right. It's just some additional stimuli in a different way. I think it's good to keep your brain engaged. I think podcasts are this is the wave of the future. Long format podcasts like this. This is this is entertainment for the future. Because if you think about it, this is pretty cheap to create.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

I mean, I can do it, and uh it and my wife doesn't even yell at me. It's really not expensive. So it's I think it's cool that people are creating these kinds of things, and I also think that it's neat that we have the opportunity to reach out into a broader world and find creators that otherwise would never have had a voice, which is pretty dope when you think about it. Thank you once again for all of our listeners.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

Pros and cons though, because then you have creators that you probably could have done without ever listening to.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Yeah, but if you think about the amount of time we waste, yeah, it it's really not that big a deal. That's true. But I I think uh I think that we all have to have our own journey when it comes to our personal health.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

And some people's journey may may be I'm just not dealing with it. I came from a family of I'm just not dealing with it. The the rest I'm the only one that that actively does anything and ever has. Like my mom, my my aunt, the the matriarchs of the family were sedentary people.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Um my sister just doesn't she doesn't do stuff. Uh whereas I'm like obsessed with longevity.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

Uh like there's a new show on CNN by Kara Swisher, who's a former Washington Post uh editor, uh and writer. She's she covered tech for ages and ages, but it's it's on CNN. It's called uh Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever. And the the whole shtick is she's learning about longevity practices from different societies, from different technical technological standpoints, and it is the obsession of the tech overlords to live forever. You know that, right? Uh yeah. Um, so this is a really interesting show. It's only been on one time, it was on Saturday. So then the next episode's tomorrow, but available on CN. Plug plug for a show that's not even mine. But uh it's an interesting discussion. And I, for one, do want to live a long time. And that means I needed to find a doctor who wouldn't look at me and go, Well, you got this problem, this problem, this problem, this problem. Here's six pills.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

Which is what everybody in my family did. They were just like, Well, I listened to the doctor. He tells me to take these pills and I'm gonna be fine. Like, no, that's not health.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

And that's why I think we're seeing the pushback, right? We're seeing the pushback against the pill popping nation of like health and fitness, nutritionist, right? Uh, do your own thing, or you know, go out and get a nutritionist coach and all blah blah blah, right? Go to the gym or do CrossFit, whatever it is. I think that's why we're seeing so many people do it as well, is because people are not trusting the medical system for very good reasons, right?

SPEAKER_00 21:50

There's positives to for good and bad reasons. There are there are two different types of of I don't trust the medical industries. One that's real and one that's That is performative. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

Yeah. I'm like, I again, like uh when it comes to like a flu vaccine and things of that nature, again, we can go through all that. But yeah, I think some people just tend to be more absolutist with that, right? It's like once I don't trust them with one thing, I can't trust them with any of it.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

See, now that I respect. Because that is real. If I don't trust medicine, I don't trust medicine. If I don't try not trust Western medicine, I don't do it. But if you like refuse to get a a frickin' vaccine and then you end up with the measles and you go to the hospital, I what the hell? The same people who would have told you to take the vaccine are not going to try to treat you? Right. Are you kidding me? Yeah, but but then they will, right? Of course they will, because that's their job. Yeah. But and they can It's my job to love people.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

But that's known by those individuals, right? It's known by those individuals. Of course, it is. So um it's all cynical bullshit. Yeah. So yeah, my I mean, the thing I'm I'm asking myself right now is are we going too far with this whole nutritional? And we've seen it, right, from like the organics and the whole foods and the sprouts and all these things that have come about in the last maybe 10-15 years. And it's it's really almost like there's a homeopathic natural remedy for everything. I'm like, okay, come on. Like, like what happened to just finding things in our foods? Um, and I get it, right? The food industry has a lot to do with it as well. Yeah. The way we process things, the way we're and part of that is just how many humans beings there are on the earth, and part of it is greed, right? In terms of how much money they want to make and how much money they want to save. Um and so it's all related.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Yeah. It's so much.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

And so like part of it is we're all trapped in this matrix of we're constantly making you unhealthy, and then we're going to sell you on products to make you healthier.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

But to make you healthy again.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

And so for me, it's just a pharmaceutical thing all over again. Right? Um and so it's just in a different platform, it's in a different arena. Right. And so I am kind of seeing that, and I've seen that kind of for a while now. Um, kind of like people get confused with like organics in terms of it being clean. I'm like, well no, organic might be better because you have certain chemicals that wasn't part of the processing of the food, which is good, but now you are responsible to making sure you clean your own food in the proper ways, or you will get really sick in other ways. Right? There's a reasonable why we started all those things, right? So it's a balance, and that's tricky because without the proper education, how could you possibly know that? Right?

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Yeah, well, it always comes back to education. We need to be a smart society. Uh I don't know that this explosion of of alternative foods, we'll put it that way.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Pre-80s, uh food was better because it wasn't as processed. It wasn't there weren't as many pesticides that were used in crops and so on and so forth. But then the 80s rolled around and and a lot of deregulation happened, and a lot of you know companies started leaning into super mass producing things. One of the craziest things, one of the worst things to happen to American R2. Nobody nobody realizes this. This is a cool factoid that I read a lot about. One of the worst things to happen to a to food in the world was sliced bread. It's a it's a joke, you know, it's like this is the best thing since sliced bread. Why do you need sliced bread? The answer is it's for convenience. Before bread came sliced in a bag, it came in a bag as a loaf, and you cut off what you needed as you went. So sliced bread meant you didn't have to do that anymore. It all came sliced. The problem bread in a full loaf lasts two, three times longer than bread in a sliced loaf. So the people who were slicing these loaves of bread had to figure out how to make sure that that bread last longer. So they started putting a bunch of preservatives in the bread. White bread essentially has no benefit, right? No health benefit whatsoever, no nutritional benefit.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

I think you just brought up a key point in terms of preservatives, right? Like the problem is shelf life.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

If you do look at other countries where the culture, it's a cultural thing, it's not like they're smarter or anything like that, it's just a cultural thing. Where they focus more on like, you know, meals are a part of the daily ritual that's important to them. And, you know, going to the store and getting what you need for the day or the next two days or three days is the is the practice.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

Right. Plus the way cities grew in Europe and Asia is totally different than the way cities grew here in the United States, where we had basically an infinite amount of space. Yeah. Uh so our cities grew, grew, grew out, out, out, and your your distance to the market was dramatically different. If you're close to the market, you only need to buy food for two, three days. That food doesn't spoil, you eat it, you consume it in time, and then you go back and you do the next two, three days. Uh, that's a style of of consumption that we didn't embrace here in the United States. Look at do you remember Fresh and Easy? Oh Fresh and Easy is a European company that tried the European model in the States. We are seller selling single serving dishes that go bad after you know a couple days because it's it's meant to be consumed quickly. This is fresh food, you do it now, over with. But it was like a dollar for a breast of chicken. Oh, it was it was inexpensive and it was good and it was quality.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

Business model didn't work here. Right. People would go to Fresh and Easy and go, where are the checkers? Because they didn't have any checkers. Everything was self-checkout. This was before people still get mad at Aldi because you gotta remember to bring a quarter for your cart. Yeah. Uh yeah, the Aldi thing is hilarious to me.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

I'm curious, I like the how many times I go there and there's always someone who's just complaining out loud. It's like, I gotta get a quarter? I'm like, you get your quarterback. It's like, but still, I have to remember to bring they'll give you a quarter inside if you ask for one, right? And they're like, but still, I have to walk all the way. Oh, so that's the issue.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

Okay, now we're getting to it. It's more about it's more about I don't want to have to carry around freaking cash money, which I understand.

SPEAKER_02 28:40

Well, it's not even that, it's it's honestly the the convenience that we're used to. We I'm just gonna and you know, we make freaking we give up parking spots. So we have these slots for our shopping carts for those who don't live in the United States, right? Um, where we can put them in different parts of the a parking lot so that the employees can come out and just gather all in one location. Yeah. That doesn't work. Why? Because everyone just leaves their cart right next to their car. Anyway, yeah. So now they got shopping carts all over the parking lot, they block other parking spaces, right? Um and you're still losing the initial space from your cart corral. You know, and so then grocery stores start to charge you more because they gotta pay employees more.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

And and those carts get damaged or stolen. And uh I as someone who has run a retail shop that had shopping carts, a retail shop that had shopping carts, slow down. I can tell you they ain't cheap.

unknown 29:41

No.

SPEAKER_00 29:42

And it ain't cheap, it ain't cheap to buy new ones, it isn't cheap to ref to refurbish them or repair them, and it ain't cheap to get them cleaned. And you gotta do all those things.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

And the most annoying thing is having a shopping cart with a wheel on turn.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

Yeah, the wheels on the cut. Or it just gets stuck and you're just dragging it. And you're dragging it and you're pushing it and it's turned sideways. Uh, all of these things, I it feels at times like st our our American capitalist nature is making it more difficult to be healthy at every turn.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

Here's where we tie it back to politics.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

Right? And why are you doing that? It just doesn't it's it's frustrating. So I think we should I we're we're half an hour in, and I feel like we've really done a good job on this one. So I do want I have one of my own that I want to bust out to.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:33

Uh but I wanted to kind of wrap this up and say, I like what you're doing. I think it's it's incredibly it's wise to bring wisdom to your process to be remembered our hardest critic is ourself. Right. And it's so important for us as individuals to give yourself leeway. And in sitting there talking to Dr. Brown yesterday, I remembered like I work out Monday through Friday for sake of ease because my kids are in school and it's that's the easiest time for me to get in my workout whenever I want during the day.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

And then I take the weekend off. But that's not best for me. I should break up my days off and do two on, one off, three on, one off, two on, one off, right, and make that the new habit. So I'm gonna break it up so that I get my day of rest, which is just as important as the workout days. And again, it's one of those things that if we sit down and you just be intentional about it, you know what I mean? Build your plan. And if you if it isn't working, you know, move it around, jiggle it around. Yeah. I think you're you're crushing it.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

And you gotta have the right support system. So, you know, my partner's been incredibly supportive of, you know, saying, Yeah, go to the gym, get it done. Right?

SPEAKER_00 31:50

Like changing, you're probably changing the menu at home.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

Yeah, you know, a little bit there makes it more difficult.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

I do that to Emily all the time. Fortunately, she's just like, I'll eat anything.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

Yeah. Well, no, I don't, I'm I'm more than one that I'll eat anything type of thing, but now I'm not. But no, and and it's a process, but like uh like how much protein am I really supposed to have? Is it really good for my body? And I have other problems, so my gut issues. It's not good for my gut issues to take up so much protein, right? So finally those balances, I'm trying to figure it all that out, right? So like I'm not so much stuck on like, okay, I need to get to 150 grams of protein every single day. It's like, no, uh, right now I can probably do 130, and that's probably not gonna work out. So I'm eventually probably gonna have to go down to about a hundred grams of protein, and that's probably 50 grams off what the experts say I should be having. I don't care. Right, right? Um, because here's the reality is I know people when I was in high school who would work out, right? Mm-hmm and they were probably only meeting a hundred grams of protein if if that, right? And they weren't following any special regimen or all these advice and blah blah blah, and yet they got ripped and they got big, right? Like there's ways to do it. It just takes longer.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

And all of us have different bodies in different situations too. Right. So you know, sometimes if the expert isn't directly tooling for you, like I have physical therapists on my little thing, on my little app that specifically design my workouts for my requests. You know, this is what I want to work on, so they dial it in that way.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

But I'll be honest, so I'll finish with this. The the flip side to this, right, is like you you can't avoid all of this noise. No, you can't because as you're trying to learn, it's there. Yeah. You also can't avoid societal pressures, right? So while I don't consider myself to be a vain person, right, you start looking at yourself in the mirror because you're in the gym and it's literally nothing but mirrors. Right. Right? I start looking at myself more in the mirror more and see like, is there pro and I'm checking for progress, right? It's not about looks, it's about progress. Because you want to see progress and you want to see results. And it's funny because like I said, I'm two and a half months in. In my mind, when I first started, I'm like, I I don't even have a timeline, but like I'm thinking six to eight months before I feel anything that's substantial, right? Because I'm gonna take a slow process and that's it. And that was a very arbitrary number, right? That wasn't like a set in stone type of a thing. Like if it's I don't see something in six months, I'm giving up, right? Um and I need reflection time. So in the last week, I have noticed differences. My posture is slightly better. I don't know how much better. Maybe it's two percent, maybe it's five percent, maybe it's ten percent. Right, it's hard to quantify, but yeah. But it's not much. You look taller, right? Yeah, it's not much, but uh no, but I did notice. Like, as I'm standing, people I normally stand next to, I'm like, I feel like the person's shorter.

unknown 34:44

Right?

SPEAKER_00 34:44

I am, actually. Right. It's my back.

SPEAKER_02 34:49

Yeah, yeah. Some people are slouching, but no, but in reality, like I'm like, wait a minute, like I feel taller, but I know I'm not taller. So I'm like, so my posture is probably just naturally getting better, right? Uh my back's hurting less often when I do serent things.

SPEAKER_00 35:03

That's great.

SPEAKER_02 35:04

You're listening to your body, and that's super important. Right. And the thing is that yeah, like in uh as I go, like if if my legs really hurting, I'm not gonna do legs that day. Yeah. I'm just not gonna do it. Right? I would rather not do it for two, three, four days than have an injury and then I'm out for several weeks. That's the wisdom coming back to me. But again, I'm not gonna lie. There are pressures in terms of wanting to get there quickly. There are pressures in wanting to see results. Yeah. Because again, that's just the the the world that is surrounding us. So my journey is as such, in terms of I'm battling that constantly, but I think I'm pretty strong in being determined of like, no, my time, my pace. Um and and and it'll be good. But yeah, I I I would say to everyone out there, if you're if you're focusing or you're worried about it, like sometimes you're worried about it, you're constantly thinking about it, but you're not doing much about it. Um, one, it's like that's okay too. You're on a different journey. I was there for years, right, where I just wasn't moving, right? Um and so you know, wait for the thing that makes you move a little bit more. Do small things. Like I couldn't do the whole thing, I'm gonna do one thing at a time. I'm doing ten things now, because now I realize with ten things going, if seven things fail, three are going well. Sure. And right now I'm doing ten things, nine things are failing, but I got the one thing.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

But you're rocking that one, rocking number ten.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

And so I can hold on to the one thing, and that works for me. That's what I other people can do just one thing at a time, step by step, and that works for them. So do what works for you. Take in the advice, but take it with a grain of salt, take it with a filter.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

Yep, and before taking on any major uh workout regimen, exercise regimen, fitness regimen, or or diet change, if you if you have wine available, check in with your primary care physician to make sure that you're not doing something stupid. Right. It's just, you know, common sense. Right. Alright. I have one too. It's based off of something that I say from time to time. So I have a topic to originally the idea behind this show was we were just gonna bring in topics. I did want to s before we jump. I did want to say I look at myself in the mirror every once in a while, and you know what I say now? I love you, Trent. That's a throwback to our origin story there.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

And you know what? I haven't done that in a while.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

There you go. Free reminder. Uh I say something all the time, um, and this is gonna be my topic that I bring today. I well, I don't say it all the time, but I say it often. And it is when we think about life, we think about it as births and deaths and marriages and graduations and family reunions and and big moments, it's it's milestones, it's this, it's that. And what we've what we really like, those are the big highlights of life, but what is life really? It's all the shit that happens in between.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

The day to day.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

It's every day we wake up, we're living a life. Every night when we fall asleep, we've lived our our day, and we also live in our sleep. It's it's that the whole thing, it's all together. Okay, you're getting deep now. Now. Now what I love about thinking about life that way is because all of us do this, every single person does this. Yeah, you do things on maybe not on a daily basis, but repetitively. Little things here, there that trigger whatever dopamine, whatever hit you need in your brain to keep you happy. We do little things for ourselves all the time to make us happy. Sometimes it's doing something for somebody else. I you know what I get a kick out of? Holding a frickin' door open for somebody. The silver. Well, it's what it's how I was raised in the South. Like, like you we would race to the door, and whoever got there first got to hold it open for the whole family as they go into the restaurant, you know. Uh, it was just this little thing that it was a kindness that we did for others. So little kindnesses make me happy. So when I do them, they please me. When I can tell a joke in a public place that, you know, I do I tell clean jokes in public. I don't do the you know dirty stuff.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

I only work blue at home and with my friends. Uh I'll tell jokes about like I dropped off some uh donations at the school today for their state testing. And uh the principal was like, What's this? And I said, Oh, these donations for uh for my kids for Sadie's classroom, and and these are the notes that my that her mom and I wrote for her for her thing. And she's like, Oh my god, that's so cute. That's amazing. I I think that we should do that all the time. And the of course the secretary sitting right there, she goes, they all do that. Every teacher asks the parents to send little notes of encouragement for the kids, and the the principal who you know and don't like uh was like, Oh my god, why did I not know that? And I was like, I don't know, are you new? And the whole place busts up laughing. Uh she's a chucklehead. But I love do like the little things that make life life. Uh so I wanted to ask, what are some of the things that you do that that you just like? I just love doing this stupid little thing. We share some things in common. Like, like we're huge Liverpool FC sporters. We're we love footy, the the soccer, which is great. Sports, sports is a great example of of something that you can enjoy and live in the moment of. It can also like drive you out of your fucking mind.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

It can ruin your weekend.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

It can ruin your week, it can ruin your day. And those are the days when you're like, I mean, this is life. I'm living life. Today life sucks because my team got their tails kicked by Paris Saint-Germain, but every once in a while it's hey, did you say we beat frickin' Real Madrid 2-1, booyah, that was badass, and your your week is made.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

And like everything in life, nothing lasts, right? Nothing lasts. Because last year we won the league and we were on Cloud Nine. So it's one of those things where Yeah, I mean, that's a that's a good one. Um, and I agree, and and you know, there's there's habits, and then there's I guess you can call them customs or traits.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Like I think of them as treats. I treat myself to this thing.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:45

Or treat myself to that thing.

SPEAKER_02 41:47

I mean I'm kind of like you in the sense where I'm an extrovert in in most cases. Like there's a little bit of introvert to me.

SPEAKER_00 41:55

Talk to a stranger.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

But yeah, talking to new people really, you know, I love that, right? Um, even if it's just five seconds, I don't care. Sometimes it's preferable if it's short, right? I don't always want to get to know a person. Right. I just want to spend time with a new person for a little bit and then leave.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

I just want to have a pleasant brief interaction with you, and then I'm gonna be on my way.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

Um like I did at PetSmart this morning.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

Right, right. Like it's it's I think when I was younger, I enjoyed longer conversations with people. Uh, because I, you know, you wanted to learn more about the world. These days I just assume that I know everything, even though I don't.

SPEAKER_00 42:31

Yeah, I get damn cynic.

SPEAKER_02 42:33

Um so there's that, and there's also the you know the jokes. Um, I love being funny. I love making people laugh. Um, there's a high that I even get from it, you know. It's the fucking best. You know, it it's just knowing that you can be the energy in the room that everybody just I feel a little bit better right now, right now.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

Yeah. Um I I love laughing and helping other people laugh. Like it's that's the the pinnacle of my day-to-day happiness. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

And yeah, I I like finding things to laugh about. Um I like to find something to to hone in on and focus on, right? Um usually it's gonna be something at work because it's easier. There's a task there, right? It needs to get done. Um, so I like to make it like how can I make this better? How can this be improved, or how can I make this better quality? Um I I think I enjoy things like um trying new foods. This is something that my partner and I really enjoy. Yeah. Um we both tr we we love being adventurous about our food and trying new places. And we've known for a while, but very border. But I think yeah, I think it just got com more confirmed the other night when we finally tried another Chinese place. And I was like, Man, we really, really like Asian food.

unknown 44:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:00

Like Thai food, Chinese food, sushi. Like I really like all the Asian cuisines a lot, you know?

SPEAKER_00 44:09

Um not crazy about dim sum, but that's just a little too much dough for me.

SPEAKER_02 44:16

Yeah, the the yeah, that part is, but they're still good. It's still tasty. Absolutely. And you usually don't have it by itself. So true. No, we just tried this new place called the JJ Noodle House over there by the tofu house over there by At Home. Yeah, Jamal. Next to the red lobster. No, the red robin.

SPEAKER_00 44:34

Red Robin.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

Delicious. Highly recommend it. Um cool. You know, the the noodles are amazing. Everything tastes fresh, homemade. Uh oh, delicious. Absolutely delicious. And we went bonkers. We got everything, you know. And we still need to try the other half of the menu. So they need to go back.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

That's a good shout. Uh Emily brought up one. Uh for her, because I talked to her about this this morning. She said uh for her, it's music. It's making music and and listening to music. It's like that's her uh her biggest thing. And singing, things like that. You recently picked up guitar for the first time, and you're you're pretty good. Well honestly, for somebody who's who hasn't been playing for very long.

SPEAKER_02 45:20

Yeah, I mean, I started playing a little bit in high school, learned a little bit then, and then every now and again. But yeah, I never owned my own guitar. It's been a minute. Yeah, I haven't owned my own guitar since high school, you know. So um I stopped going to classes because I just didn't feel the commitment. Like it wasn't there. I didn't have time to practice, and by the time I got to my next session, I'm like, I feel like I'm just starting over here. So it was more like I'm wasting my money here. Um and it was on me, right? Because I'm just not taking the time to practice. Um so yeah, I'll I still have the guitar that you let me lend me, and I'll still pick it up from time to time. So maybe once a week or every once every two weeks, it gets picked up, and I play the same little things over and over.

SPEAKER_00 46:00

Um Emily's trying to learn a song right now that uh that kitty loves. Yeah. So it's a 12.

SPEAKER_02 46:05

But right now, yeah, it's not priority, definitely. I'm not trying to like learn the next new thing.

SPEAKER_00 46:09

Um But you do still have a growth mindset as an adult, which is cool. Yeah. You know, an openness to learning and and doing new things.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

I mean, I've been trying to figure out the the things that I could do, right? Like, why not, right? Like, why not learn new hobbies? Why not learn new things? Why not uh figure out something that can make me happy that has nothing to do with anything else in my life going on? Yeah. Right. And so and right now it's the working out because there's a goal there. I know that's not gonna be forever. Uh I think I know that for a fact that I'm gonna get to a certain point and then just figure out how to maintain. I'm not gonna try to keep escalating and growing. Because I don't I don't need that, I don't want that. Right.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

Right? You you want to attain and maintain. Right. Attain and then maintain.

SPEAKER_02 46:49

Uh my goal is actual health.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

Right.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

My goal is that's really my yeah, my my thing isn't like fitness. My thing isn't strength building and bodybuilding. Like that's not my thing, right?

SPEAKER_00 46:59

So you're not gonna be joining any competitions.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

I hate the gym.

SPEAKER_00 47:03

You know.

SPEAKER_02 47:04

Um if I join a competition, it wouldn't be like lifting weight competitions. It'd be like a marathon or a triathlon type thing, or fair enough. Where you're doing different things, right? Um where you can beat people, you know. No. But no, yeah, I mean, I think that's a good point. I mean, the the day-to-day is interesting.

SPEAKER_00 47:25

Um isn't it? I have a I have an an addiction, a lifelong addiction to sitcoms. Yeah. I grew up watching uh sitcoms from the late 70s, early 80s, Taxi, uh, MASH, uh Facts of Life, uh, The Jeffersons. It goes on into the 80s, Cosby Show, you know, whatever. Now it's hard to cover.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

Hey, the Cosby show was still the Cosby show.

SPEAKER_00 47:53

But at the time it was one of the best things on television, hands down.

SPEAKER_02 47:57

You can still say today that it is, right?

SPEAKER_00 47:59

It was a great show. Uh, Cheers, Night Court, and it just kind of kept going. And then I was into the 90s and Friends and Will and Grace, and to the and then into the high even higher brow stuff, arrested development, and and I'm still totally addicted to sitcoms. And when I don't have anything else going on, I will pop on a sitcom.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:21

I'm I'm now into the Connors, which is the Roseanne reboot without Roseanne. And I loved Roseanne in its first run because it was tackling, it was a real working class show, yeah tackling working class issues. Right. And uh and it still is. Only now they're old working class, and it's really like it's just an extension of that original premise, and it works. Uh, and then the other thing I do is I watch sitcoms when I go to sleep. I'll watch an episode of a sitcom and then kind of drift off. The sitcom I'm watching right now, on available on Disney Plus, Bewitched from the 1960s. Oh wow. That's a good show. That's a good show. And um and I watch it and I'm like, oh man, our our our societal acceptance of some of these things has really changed because uh Darren Stevens is a jackass in season one. I'm like, goe, man, it's a good thing uh that Samantha was all over she she had she would have had him wrapped around her finger, otherwise she would have left his ass something fierce. She was really into that dude for no reason. Uh but I'm watching Bewitched. It's for me, any sitcom is worth sitting down and trying on. It just is. I'll rewatch him happily. I've rewatched like the entirety of Friends, probably dozens of times. Dozens and dozens of times. Seinfeld is another one of my all-time favorites. I've watched it dozens of times.

SPEAKER_02 50:02

I mean it's one of those things where you can leave it on in the background and do other things as well, which is nice, right?

SPEAKER_00 50:07

And I can pick it up in the middle of any episode and know exactly where we are.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

Yeah, exactly. It's not that hard to figure it out.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

And that doesn't make me feel weird, it makes me feel comfortable.

SPEAKER_02 50:15

Yeah. Yeah, and you can still laugh at the things, right? Even though they're cheesy, they're corny, they're outdated in some contexts. You know, you can still laugh at a lot of the things.

SPEAKER_00 50:24

A joke, a well-delivered joke, is a thing of beauty. Yeah. It's just a thing of beauty. Everything like Brooklyn 9-9 and Parks and Wreck, and I could just go on and on and on. All these sitcoms that I've watched everyone.

SPEAKER_02 50:35

I think you have like a diversity of things too, because there's people who like, I just can't do lap tracks. And there's people who's like, they can only do laugh tracks. I I love multi-cam, I love single cam. You're talking about shows that have it the different types of comedy, different types of deliveries. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:50

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

You know, one thing I I regret is getting more into those, like uh uh rusted development, the single office and all that type of stuff. Um I think what happened was like when the office got really popular, everybody was doing it, and it just kind of got to me, and then I never got into it, you know? Yeah. Um, it's kind of like breaking bad. It was like everybody was talking about it, and then I already knew the ending, and I was just like, I'm sure it's a great show. I love Brian Cranston, but like I don't want to sit here and watch it.

SPEAKER_00 51:20

I do have I do have a real aversion to things that are overly popular in the moment.

SPEAKER_01 51:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

It's it's hard. It's it's hard when everybody's talking about like everybody's like, ooh, you gotta see Squid Game, and I'm like, no. Yeah. I don't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:37

Well, because yeah, sometimes the hype makes it disappointing because then you find looking at it, like, this is what everyone's hyping up about. Yeah. You know, but then sometimes I get it because I hype up about certain things too, right? It's true. So all of these things also bring connection, right? They give you things to talk about, they they allow talk for social spaces. It you know, this is what a lot of people like to do. Ironically, I've never been a person who enjoyed those types of things all the time, right? Like when I was really young, I it would drive me nuts how like most conversations were that surface level where like people were just quoting their favorite shows and talking about their favorite sports, and then that would be the end of it, right? They would never go into the more serious stuff, right? And finding ways to talk about serious topics, quote unquote serious, without being serious, right?

SPEAKER_00 52:26

Like that that takes a level of comfort in a relationship that a lot of people aren't comfortable with. Right. I'm not comfortable getting that comfortable. Uh I worry today that the number of options available are actually making it worse to find things that are that you have in common. It's a paradox of choice. Yeah, the paradox of choice. Like uh my kid will come downstairs and like last night she came downstairs and went on a on a rant about changes that Roblox is making and how it's affecting her favorite YouTube creators. And I'm like, oh dear lord, child. Um, better to have those problems than real problems, right? Like I don't know what happened. When we were kids, when when you were a kid and you had a Super Nintendo system and you had three friends, and everybody was over to play Super Mario Bros. or whatever. The the the four of you are sitting there and you only have two controllers and you can only play two at a time. The other two people were like bored out of their damn minds. Now, watching other people play video games is a multi-billion dollar industry, yeah, which just makes my head wanna like I'll watch this for like two minutes and go, I could not care less about what's going on right now.

SPEAKER_02 53:51

Honestly, like I don't I don't watch it by much on my own, but because my kid watches it too, and sometimes I'm sitting there, you know, and I'm like, this is actually pretty good content. Like some of these people a really good job. Like I can understand why it's interesting, they do a good job of making it more interesting, and I can understand why you get hooked to it. Like, I get it. It's not my thing, but I get it, right?

SPEAKER_00 54:14

Um But yeah, it is interesting in terms of just kind of where we've where how far we've gone with that type of stuff, and it's are they gonna have anything to talk about together except watching other people play video games? That's so wild. Hold on, I'm gonna turn into an old man screaming at the trees again. You kids gotta do something more intelligent with your lives. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 54:35

You know, it's funny you bring that up because it's like, how do you talk to kids these days and how do you talk to teens? And this is a question I get asked a lot too in my work, you know, and people want to be like, Can you do a training on how to talk to teens? And I'm like, no. No, not really. Not really. Um, because there's no such thing, right? But it's also like you also have to understand, like, we are we've already entered. Not we're entering, we've already entered into a whole new language of communication. And if you weren't part of the later Gen Zers, you are not going to catch up. You are never going to catch up. You are never gonna speak that language, you're never gonna decode that language, right? Like I can't decode the language, right? Thanks for that, you son bitch. But but here's the thing I will say is that youth will will will appreciate the one thing is a genuine person. They don't want you being someone that you're not. So if you go into their space trying to speak their language, they're not they're gonna pick up on that real quick, right? And they're gonna put up walls. So you don't have to speak their language to get through to them, right?

SPEAKER_00 55:41

Um we technically speak the same language, but the you know, the dialect is a little different.

SPEAKER_02 55:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:47

Uh there's never there's they understand English. We still teach it in classes, don't we? Yeah. I always thought it was hilarious that uh, you know, to to get your foreign language credit, you only had to credit for high school, you only had to take two years, yet I had to take twelve freaking years of English. I don't know. What's going on here? Uh I always thought that was weird.

SPEAKER_02 56:09

And how good is your grammar today?

SPEAKER_00 56:12

My grammar, when I focus on it, is actually pretty solid. Uh my French, which is the language I took, not so much. Je parle un peu de Francais It's not much. Comme si comme ça je m'appelle Trent Commentalez Anyway uh I just uh these kids are doing things differently. And I think that that's commonplace. Every generation goes through this. Yeah, every generation turns around and looks at their kids who are the next generation down and go, or in my case, two generations down, like what's wrong with them have them kids late in life, folks. Uh and you look at them and you're like, I don't understand what you're doing. And they're not gonna understand why you don't understand. And so the secret to talking to teenagers is to build that bridge between between you, and it's gotta be built on the honest admission. I grew up in a different time with a di in a different world where not everybody had a computer, yeah, and cell phones weren't a thing. Yeah, you know, I we did we were outside until the street lights came on. Yeah. Uh our parents had no idea where we were ever.

SPEAKER_02 57:33

Yeah. And keep in mind too, like you you as a parent are the number one contributor to why what they're the issues that they're facing. Right.

SPEAKER_00 57:40

And and and then I look at them and go, but I don't want most of those things for you. Right. And one of the things that I want my kids to know is that I can you can talk to me about anything. Yeah. And the most important thing that we have to have between us is respect and honesty. And if you could if we respect each other and we're honest with each other, anything else we can get, we can work through.

SPEAKER_02 58:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:05

But you gotta work from that that first step, which is honesty and respect. And they go, they'll go hand in hand.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:12

So that's that's a little moment on parenting.

SPEAKER_02 58:15

Uh what trust and respect is the foundation of any relationship, any solid relationship.

SPEAKER_00 58:21

Because that's that's where communication functions. Right. Um, anyway, that I love thinking about the little things in life. Uh my nine-year-old, I almost called her eight years old, but she just turned nine. My nine-year-old said to me this was this encapsulated her entire outlook on life in one sentence as she was playing with this little squishy toy thing that she got from one of her classmates for for her birthday. It's like this little little throwaway dollar toys, you know, this is all the rage. But she's sitting here with this thing and she says, you know, Dad, I really love the little things. And I took it to mean she really loves these little the little trinkets, but it's more than that. It's the the thought of this thing, the thought that went into this thing.

SPEAKER_02 59:16

She doesn't need grand gestures, she doesn't need a bunch of fancy stuff.

SPEAKER_00 59:19

She ha she requested no birthday song this year. Yeah. I was like, okay. Sure. She didn't want it to be about her, you know, this moment. She's like, I get a cake and that's great. Right.

SPEAKER_02 59:33

Yeah, some people really don't like the spotlight, you know. I I think a lot of human beings will take it, we enjoy it, even if it's temporary, blah, blah, blah. But there's a lot of people out there that are just no, keep the spotlight away from me. I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 59:48

But I just that like totally filled my heart. Uh I just I love the little things. Little things, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:54

And I was like, oh, that was such a common phrase at one point.

SPEAKER_00 59:57

I love the little things too.

SPEAKER_01 59:58

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:00

Yeah, you know. Uh but it feels it made me feel like I'm raising good kids. And that's a thing that I really, really makes me happy. As we my kids do something that makes me realize that they're good kids. Every once in a while they do the opposite of that. It makes me question everything I've been doing.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:17

I think when you live with people, they're always gonna drive you nuts and see how to do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:19

Yeah, they do have their moments. Yeah, but uh, but man, all in all, I got no complaints with them.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:25

I like that. That was a good that was a good uh wrap-up there. And I think I found the name for the show, right? Enjoy the little things for your health.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:34

Enjoy the little things for your health. The the healthy little things. Uh, it has been a pleasure, as always, sir. Of course. Thank you so much for joining me and having this convo with me. I want to put this, I want to I was wondering which one of us would be the person that did this, so it's gonna be me. I want to put this podcast on the things that I do that I really enjoy. The little happy thing, little things that make me happy. There you go. Uh it's it it's true. I podcast as a hobby, even though my other podcast is like super dark and serious all the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:03

Yeah, I'm gonna- I mean, I know we don't really like sit here and plan and do a whole agenda and all this whole thing, but I it's a little bit more than a little thing sometimes. Because we we have to take time every day, we have to figure it out, we have to come together, we have to put our brains to working. You know, you can't just just show up in time.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:21

Fortunately, I have the tech dialed in that I could just like hit record and we can go.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:24

Which is was a real problem at the beginning, man. I remember the hours we would just anyway. Uh we will be back together soon, I'm I'm guessing. And uh uh thanks again. You wanna you want to send us out?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:40

You did such a great job bringing us in to Yeah, I think you're just trying to pass that on, but that's okay. We can do that. But no, thank you again all for listening. Thank you, Trent. Again, great conversations. Uh, again, no plan, no problem. Right? It's literally all about being able to speak about the things that maybe we struggle as a society these days. So it's kind of all just kind of comes all into fruition, I guess you could say, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:04

I can't find the words right now, but um we've been juggling words for an hour.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

So yeah, I know I got other things in my mind that I gotta get back to. My brain's already going to the next thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:13

We're already going, we're already running. Sprint.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:15

Thank you again. Hopefully you guys enjoy this. Hopefully, this was a break for your for your mental break or whatever you needed. And you know, we'd love to hear from you guys if you find a way to reach out to us if you listen if you're listeners.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:26

I think the only way you can get me right now is on Blue Sky.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:29

At Old Man Trent. There you go. That's me. And then uh and then you have an Insta account, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

Yeah, I don't want people following that just yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:38

I think maybe we'll create one. I think I still do for Trent Takes On, but I don't check it, so uh fill it knock yourself out.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:46

Well, anyway, I hope you enjoyed it, right? So uh how's that for a wrap up, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:50

So you can you can leave us messages on the podcasts themselves on on Apple Podcasts. That's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:56

Or just pay it forward and share it with someone else.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:59

Hey, that's that's all we could really ask for.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:01

So thank you, thank you, thank you, and we'll be back before you know it.

unknown 1:03:04

Sounds good.