Creative Hustle Mode | Tyler Seller | Full Battery Media

This episode with Tyler Seller was a masterclass in turning hustle into real opportunity. We talked about how he built Masshole Media from the ground up and scaled it into a global network of creatives working across live events, tours, and production. From sneaking into shows early on to landing major gigs, he broke down how networking, adaptability, and just saying yes before you feel ready can open doors most people never even approach.

We also got into what actually drives growth: consistency, understanding your audience, and putting yourself in the right environments with the right people. One of the biggest takeaways was this your connections and your willingness to take action will take you further than any piece of gear ever will. 

If you’re trying to level up in content, media, or any creative space, there’s a lot in here you can apply immediately.

Who’s one person you should reach out to today that could change your trajectory?

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Shortly after the show wrapped up and uh I got photos of Billie Alish solo doing her thing, got to like fully experience. I saw her win the Grammy, like five Grammys that in I think it was 2018 when I I went to one show in my life before I did went to any concerts and did media. I went to one show as a fan. And uh I watched the Grammys and watched her win. I was like, how do people like this girl? Like she's not even that good. And when I was in the pit, I honestly didn't even watch her. I turned around and watched people at the rails like hanging on for the life of them and saw how powerful like their their fan base was. And they're the nicest people on earth, and people traveled from all around the world. Like she did Lollapalooza in Chicago the day before, and people from Chicago flew from there to Montreal just to tour with her. So I I could see how met how she was able to win five Grammys and how she has the audience that she has. And she's the same age as me, which is crazy to think about with mostly artists. And uh yeah, after the show, we were we were all just having a conversation backstage, and um her team was the best people on earth. And it's just when you're there and you're put in that room, uh you get one shot to to network with whoever you can in the shortest amount of time before they leave to go to the next show. And um, it's just trying to take advantage of that. So from there it kind of spiraled into meeting the production manager, the person who designs the stage, the lead videographer, the lead photographer, and managers, assistants, et cetera, and just trying to collect phone numbers and and say like thank you. And thank you is like probably the biggest thing. Just saying thank you and like saying that you're appreciative. Like, um obviously like for Armani to perform with her, thank you for that. But uh for having me and allowing me to capture it, like for Armani and for Billy, um is means the world because they have 80 other cameras and they could say, Yeah, we can capture it on our 80 cameras and send it to you, and we'll approve it. So to be able to let me come into their family is a is a huge thing.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

All right, welcome everybody back to the Full Battery Media Podcast. I'm your host, Sean Trace, and I've got an awesome guest with me today, which like to tell people who you are and a little bit about what you do.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Absolutely. My name is Tyler Seller, and I am the founder of Masshole Media, which is the first collective worldwide that outsources media um around the world. So basically it's like Uber for creatives and live entertainment, media and production. That's Radman.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Uh, how did you get started? First of all, uh I love the name Mass Hole Media. I was born in Wusta. So, you know, I I'm definitely I definitely, you know, Boston is my original home. And, you know, we I grew up outside of Boston, and so love mass hole media, man. But how did you get started in this industry?

SPEAKER_01 2:59

Um, I was in college and I graduated high school in 2020. So I'm a young guy, I'm 23. And uh going to school in Montreal, everything's 18. And uh I stopped drinking when I was 19, and I had this old hand-me-down camera that uh we wanted to document everything that we did during COVID. Um, and all of my friends they went to clubs and they were spending $70 to get in, and I wasn't drinking, but they were like, you gotta spend the $70 to come to a table with us, and there's no guest list. So I said, why can't I just bring my camera into the club and uh and record what we're doing and my night out, and I can give it to the club for free. So that was my entry fee, basically. So from there I got to learn low light and learn how nightlife works on the aspect of promoters and the owners and uh how media should look on a content creation side. So um I picked that up and started to realize the scope of live entertainment, which is what you want to do when you're younger and have a different job each each day and not really know what you're doing, and that's the thrill of it. So um, that's how I got started in it.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

That's awesome, man. My um one of my I I I showed up a lot of live music events when I was younger and I I loved it, man. It's absolutely awesome. And one of the things that my friend was in um uh Hong Kong. His his his uncle's from Hong Kong, and he was like, one day we were talking, he's like, dude, my friend's visiting my d my uncle's visiting from Hong Kong, you gotta come meet him. I was like, whatever, dude. He's like, dude, you're into cameras and video and photography. Come this, meet this guy. And we came and I was chatting with him, and the dude had like a 40-year career photographing pretty much every live show that came through Hong Kong in 40 years. He was like the guy, dude. And when I looked at like his his uh portfolio, he had a you know, it's like he was like old school, so he had the book and you're just flipping through it, and it was everyone. Like, you know, you're like, who's everyone? Dude, everyone.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

Like it's all taken on film and all black and white.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

It's dude, 100%, man. And then he had a bunch that was in film too, or in color too, but like it was that super beautiful, grainy vibe, and it was just it was beautiful, but like the ability to capture live moments is a special thing. Talk to me about how you go about doing it. Like, there are two groups of people that I I I admire beyond measure for video. Um, I shoot like a lot of music videos, so we have a bad take, we do it again. But there are two things weddings and live music events. Are the two things? There's no do-overs, man. Like you get the shot or you don't. You know what I mean? Talk to me about that and your experience with that.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

Yeah. Um, I mean, thankfully I've been able to do both weddings and live music. So you kind of get to experience like the I guess when I first started in live music, you kind of understand, especially video, it's you gotta capture everything. And if you miss it, it's not gonna come back around again. And that's the whole point of it, because each show that they're doing on a tour is different and tailored to an audience, and it shouldn't feel the same. And that's the that's the way that um music is. It's it's meant to feel different every place you are and like how it feels to you. It could be a bad show in a place they don't like, and it can be a great show in a place they love. Um, but I feel like video, it's video and photo are very different for live music. Um photo, it's you're trying to you're if you come out with one photo that tells a million words, then then that's all you need. But video, it's it's what you create post-product that brings out an audience and and shows other people who aren't engaged with that art uh uh with that artist, um, what type of fans that that come together for it. And I feel like all these videos that these artists put out, it's to tailor, obviously they're trying to grow more fans, but it shows how those fans feel about their music and how they perform. So it's trying to encapsulate more of the audience rather than the music itself in a way, and show that they could be one of them too.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

That's powerful. And it makes a lot of sense because you're not just filming some like random stage because you want to show, all right, where we're we're in Montreal tonight. You know, we're not in Hong Kong, we're not in Tokyo, we're in Montreal. So, like, what is the difference? What how is Montreal, you know, expressing themselves with this this artist, you know? Which brings me to my my my my first question for you. Like, you started with a camera in Montreal covering nightlife with like no major connections, which is, dude, the beginning for everyone is brutal, but it's fun too, because you're like, let's weird, where can we go? What was the very first step you took? And what would you tell someone who has no idea where to begin?

SPEAKER_01 7:48

The very first step I took was I DM'd a another videographer who was on tour with a guy right out of COVID. And thankfully he allowed me to get a media pass as my first show. And um, that was with Little Tech in Montreal. I think that it's kind of weird because I used that same wristband and retaped it onto myself as media to go back to that same venue. And I missed the thrill of being like the beginning and having to sneak in, and it gave me more of a a rush to really push myself and like where I wanted to go. Now it's just like I I get paid to do it and it feels a little different, you know. Um but I I think starting off, it's it's always so different. I love hearing the stories about it because you either try and become friends with security or you talk to a label or you DM a manager or however it is. But um the first the first thing that I would do is I would I asked my friend, I I said, is this stupid if I try to sneak in or or how should I go about it? And from like a logistical standpoint, um, so because they'll tell you if you're right or wrong and and and they're brutally honest with you. And it's not like they're trying to to screw you over or say that you're doing it the wrong way. It's they're just being honest with you. So it definitely helps. Sometimes you don't listen to them, sometimes you do listen to them, but uh it's really how much you're willing to push yourself to get to a certain point. And the beginning is always the hardest, I think.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

I today I had a post on LinkedIn that I posted because I post weird stuff on LinkedIn. It's not like your LinkedIn type stuff, man. Like I like posting all about like just the stuff I see in life and how I think about that applies to business and stuff. And I had a tough day, and I was sitting like literally, it was a tough day. My daughter was like projectile vomiting onto me last night, which was not fun, man. I woke up in the middle of the night to feel the splatter of vomit on my back, and I was like, oh god, you know, I cleaned her up, and I was like, oh man. And I don't think I have any on me still, but like, yeah, man, I it was just a couple hours ago, and it was just like but there might be, there might be, and I don't know, it's that long of a day, it's that rough of a day. That's that's the role of being a dad, though. 100%, man. And like the crazy thing is, so I was like, I wanted to do something nice. Um, I had some stuff lying around the house that I wanted to give away. And the um I took like I had a rowing machine and exercise bike that I I train at this one Muay Thai gym three times a week. And I have this stuff that I had in my house for forever. And I was just like, dude, I need to get rid of this stuff. So I took it up the street and donated it to the gym. The gym guys are like to the professional fighters, and they're like, Yes, we got a rowing machine. They were so excited. I felt so good, dude. They all came out and carried it in. So I I I um I got the stuff dropped off, and I'm driving back home and I see a dude. Now, there's a special type of motorbike here in Southeast Asia, and it's like it's a motorcycle, but it's also like a tricycle. And the front of the tricycle, they they set up like a little business shop. This dude had a full like barbecue set in front of him, and like in front of him. So, and like he's driving down the street, flipping like barbecue. Like, he's literally got a pair of chopsticks in his left hand, and he's flipping food with his left hand, and he's driving the motorbike with the right hand. And I was like, man, I feel like I've got something to complain about. But like, it was the perfect example of like sometimes you just gotta hustle, you know, and early on in your career, you're wearing a lot of hats. And it might not seem easy, but it's what you gotta do, you know?

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Yeah, I feel like I feel like when I first started, uh you think that you're just doing photo and then you're gonna go into video or vice versa. Um, and then it turns into you becoming an assistant and a producer and an a PA and just a plug in general for anything they need in a certain city if you're connected. So you start to realize that within live entertainment, you become more than just a photographer as a person. It grows like it grows your skill set.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

So you you start out in different cities and uh tell me about how that looked. How it looked?

SPEAKER_01 12:00

I mean, you're obviously like where your personal experience, everyone has a personal experience. So when you when you talk to someone and they say something bad about a place or or something in their life, like it might not be something big to you, but it's something big to them. And that's just because their personal experiences and that affects them more. And people go through more, people go through less to like gauge it. So in certain cities, you have more more stories and like more experience and and um connections there. So it kind of depends. But when I'm a I'm a pretty like good communicator and and good talker when I'm in other places, so um I kind of just make do with what I have and learn that everything is uh I can control what I can control, but nothing outside of it. So uh it's kind of the whole role of being a photographer and a videographer comes with becoming an assistant, becoming a PA, doing food runs, uh helping put a media list together and doing uh security here and there because a guy needs to go to the back. Like there's there's stuff that you can't control and you just try to fill in everywhere. And it's cool because you get to learn how all of these roles like combine to make an excellent show and the reasons why sometimes it isn't a good show. Um and you see it behind behind the closed doors that not everyone gets to see, which is a pretty unique thing of how brutal live entertainment can be and how amazing live entertainment can be.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

You had have had some awesome experiences. I mean, you got to work with the Billie Eilish tour and Bad Bunny at Finway. Talk to me about how did you find those shows? How did you open those doors? Because that's pretty awesome, man.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Yeah. Um I the Billie Eilish started in Montreal in 2023. There's a festival up there every summer called Oshiaga. And um, one of my friends, Armani White, was performing, and he has a song called Billie Eilish that uh that went pretty viral through social media. And um I got a my friend from Toronto came in, he was doing media for it, and uh I was just chilling out at home. I wasn't gonna do media for it, I was just gonna go to the show and enjoy it. And uh I got a call from another manager, his name's Clay, and he said, Can you send someone over to film something tonight for this artist? And I was looking at the lineup and I was like, He doesn't perform till tomorrow. Why am I going to perform this? You know? And I saw that Billy Eilish was on the headline, and uh, I was like oh my God, like I think something's gonna happen with this. So um I grabbed my bag, I said, I'm gonna send someone who's already at the festival to cover, I'm gonna be on my way. And uh I ran across a bridge, got out of an Uber, and tried to get there as fast as I could. And uh we ended up getting there, and he was like, Oh, I can't tell you what it is, but like it's gonna be pretty incredible. But you'll be running video, he'll be running photo. And we were backstage and they gave us a set list um to Billie Eilish's show. And you could see like a Monty White comes on stage performs Billy Eilish with Billie Eilish. So I was like, oh my God, this is unreal. So um at first, like this is just like they always discredit who you are and what you can do. And they put us in a section with like her family, and um, it was like 30 feet away from the stage. And I'm like, I should be right there filming the artist that I'm I'm working for. So I'm like trying to talk to security, and uh I'm looking around and 070 shake's behind me with Lily Rose Depp and um Dylan Wallows or Dylan uh Dylan Minette from The Wallows is behind me, and Billy Eilish's mom pats on the security's back and uh and gets me into the pit. And uh that's how it ended up starting a relationship.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

And after the show, we So you were you got down into the pit. You got down into the pit, man. How and then where did you go after that?

SPEAKER_01 15:47

So she she was performing and uh she brought out Armani White and uh they ended up performing the song together, and shortly after the show wrapped up, and uh I got photos of Billy Eyes solo doing her thing, got to like fully experience like and and I would say this too, like I saw her win the Grammy, like five Grammys that in I think it was 2018 when I I went to one show in my life before I did went to any concerts and did media. I went to one show as a fan, and uh I watched the Grammys and watched it win. I was like, how do people like this girl? Like, she's not even that good. And when I was in the pit, I honestly didn't even watch her. I turned around and watched people at the rails like hanging on for the life of them and saw how powerful like their their fan base was, and they're the nicest people on earth, and people traveled from all around the world. Like she did Lollapalooza in Chicago the day before, and people from Chicago flew from there to Montreal just to tour with her. So I I could see how met how she was able to win five Grammys and how she has the audience that she has, and she's the same age as me, which is crazy to think about with mostly artists. And uh yeah, after the show, we were we were all just having a conversation backstage, and um her team was the best people on earth, and it's just when you're there and you're put in that room, you get one shot to to network with whoever you can in the shortest amount of time before they leave to go to the next show. And um, it's just trying to take advantage of that. So from there it kind of spiraled into meeting the production manager, the person who designs the stage, the lead videographer, lead photographer, and managers, assistants, et cetera, and just trying to collect phone numbers and and say like thank you. And thank you is like probably the biggest thing. Just saying thank you and like saying that you're appreciative. Like um, obviously, like for Armani to perform with her, thank you for that. But uh for having me and allowing me to capture it, like for Armani and for Billy, um is means the world because they have 80 other cameras and they could say, Yeah, we can capture it on our 80 cameras and send it to you and we'll approve it. So to be able to let me come into their family is uh is a huge thing. That's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

So I want to ask you this because a lot of creators wait until they feel ready or have better gear. Do you ever do you think did you ever feel ready or did you just go and do it? Because I mean, I know a lot of people wait, oh, I want to wait till I have this, I want to wait till I have that, or do you just go out and create, man?

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Um, I mean, I love a good running gun and I I tell all the all these people that I work with, I'm like, if you have nothing to do that day and you want to do live entertainment, go for a walk at night and go on the street and focus in on a lamp or a light post and learn how F-stop works, learn how ISO works, learn how shutter speed works, and see what happens if you have 30 FPS with a 150 shutter at night, and then and you're gonna see lines come up and experience why it is the way it is. Um so I love to just go out and create and and become a visionary through that. And you see the world a whole lot different from being behind the camera than in front of the camera. And um, like going on vacation with my girlfriend, it's like we go, we were in Europe and I was and she's like, Oh, like I get the best photos taken of me. Like, that's the perks of having a photographer and a videographer as a boyfriend. And I'm like, Yeah, but the it's cool to have photos of you, but the shot, like what you're what's around you and like in the shot is like more what I'm looking at, like apart from you, because it shows how crazy it is to be where we are and like bring that to your friends who will see it, and everyone who's gonna be looking at that photo or those videos and say that's an incredible place to be. So it's just trying to capture it.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

There's an art to capturing time and place, you know, there really is an art because it's like ever anyone can do. I I noticed this on like Airbnb. You ever notice that? Like the worst Airbnb photos are like super zoomed in, and then you get to the place and it's like you're like, dude, this place sucks because they know that you like if you get tight, you like you can do you can make anything look good. But like a wide shot, man, true, it's not easy, you know, it's not easy to do. But um I want to ask you this because you built a global network of like over 350 creatives, which is wild. When you were just starting out, how did you find out your first collaborations and build trust with people in the industry? Because you were talking about getting numbers, dude. I do the same thing on LinkedIn. Like, I add a shit ton of people on LinkedIn, and I'm just connecting and like people like, are you trying to get something? I'm like, nah, man, I just am like connecting and find out cool people, and then the people that are really cool, I love to stay in touch with them. And like, you know, and I've had people like, hey Sean, you want to work in this project? I'm like, sure, dude, let's do that together. And then there's also people that I'm like, yeah, that guy's a jerk. I never want to work with that person again, you know? But you you you don't find that out until you meet people and you try.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

Right. Um, yeah, I think my my first connections were because I wasn't good enough to be a videographer and a photographer, like I wasn't as experienced as other people. Um and I think the difference between back then versus what it is now is when live entertainment, there was two people in the pits for shows, doing photo one photo, one video. And now it's like 30 people have media. And and I think that comes with kind of pioneering like in a way like that this can be a job. And my first connects were were because um I got asked to finish out a tour run with one of my friends. And I said, How much am I getting paid? Like I'm in college, like I gotta make some money or I gotta I gotta figure it out because I drop out and do it, like no problem. I take the lead. But um, but I need to know that there's money in it for me and like a way that I can make this a job and like push it to be a job. And they said, Well, you just started, we're not gonna pay you. And I said, All right, like that's fair, but I have people and friends who saw my work that I did with you and they're on the rest of your tour run and they ask me if I can get media. So why not supply them? They can get paid because they're so much better. They don't have to pay the travel cost. They don't have to pay a hotel cost. They don't have to pay per diem. They just pay for the photos and the deliverables. They turn it around and uh and they're more experienced than me. Like they're gonna come out 10 times better than me. So that's kind of how I met people and trusted them. And through them, how I network is you have one connection, and from that, you're trying to get another connection for whatever room you're in.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

Yeah. But you were talking about how you're networking. You you you work networking in a really cool way. Like, you know, you you brought in your friends and then you started, you know, passing them with people that you can trust, man. That's which is awesome.

unknown 22:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

And I think I think it's when I network, it's that one person that you start to trust. You learn that they're also wearing the 50 other hats. And that's what I try to look for when I'm networking, because I need someone who's just a plug in general in that city, because it's cool to save people money, like for my company. Like that's our our our job and what what makes us special. Um, but if you have connects to anything that is needed in live live production, and you can be more valuable than just being a guy on a tour bus, you know, that's just going through the motions and going to each show and doing it. Um, but when you network, I this is the most useful thing that I've at least people have told me, like when I when I tell them, um that one person, when you network with them, you need to try and get someone else out of them. So that means like you have your one connection, you're trying to get to two, and then have those two go to four and exponentially grow it because you're sitting in a room and it might not be the biggest people in the world, but everyone has those personal experiences and has people that can help you. And you'll never know if that person from high school will be the one to help you because his roommate in college ends up knowing this guy. Um, and I think it's important to know that just keeping relationships with everyone because those those relationships that you have in high school and have in college, like they're not just friends, they're also connections. And that's like the more entrepreneurial way and business way of looking at it. And that's how you can grow a network pretty fast if you if you consider it that way. Because if you're just meeting a guy to meet a guy, then there's no growth beyond just being tapped in with him. You need someone else from him or a referral. So I was trying to get that one referral to keep going. That's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Hold on one second. I think it's gonna kick me again. If this shit keeps up, I'm gonna jump over to another service. Okay. No problem. You helped a creator grow from 30,000 to 30 million monthly views. Uh for someone just starting their channel or page, what's the foundation that makes that kind of growth even possible, man?

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Um, I think consistency is the biggest thing. I feel like content creators and and uh artists, they're they're just not as consistent posting. It's it's like you try to reach an audience and you're complaining that you aren't reaching the audience they're trying to get to. And sometimes it's just throwing, throwing stuff around and trying to have something stick to a wall. But um if you're consistently posting and you see that something's working, keep going with it. Uh, but that that guy, his name's Kono, he's an interviewer, and uh his whole goal is he tries to get people to walk off while having an interesting conversation and kind of like going after their flaws and and like what makes them so unique or what they got big for and just kind of like uh jokingly bash them a little bit. So it's trying to clip up a podcast and and an interview to make it kind of interesting and and funny for a viewer that's totally relatable. So um yeah, the consistency was key. And those trial reels on Instagram um I've been learning are pretty incredible because I feel like everyone freaks out over the algorithm that's not going out to people who don't follow them. And those trial reels on Instagram, it only goes to people who don't follow you. So if you're making good content and you're using those, then it it should be doing pretty well. And you're gaining 100% new follow like new following and new traction and you're creating a new, a new like um a new stream of of viewership like that has never been touched before.

SPEAKER_00 26:35

One of the things too is I think that there was a guy who came on recently to the podcast and he was talking about how people can connect to different areas and one of the his company like dubs everyone's like your content, and he works with huge YouTubers, and so they're like doing all these AI dubbing that matches, like actually uses your voice and just like morphs it into another language, which is wild. That's unreal. It's unreal, dude. It's like wild this stuff they're doing, man. But what's crazy is he's like when people start doing that, they tap into these other like networks that they had no idea existed. Like he's like, one guy did it, and he was like suddenly he was at like you know four million views, but then he got like 25 more million from like from India, you know, and he's like, they just didn't know that they were gonna get that, you know. But it's wild because you gotta start looking at different angles. Like if you do the same thing again and again and again. And I love that you talk about the the power of networking of like, so you work here, you send me a person, you bring one person in. Like each person brings a person. That's that's huge social, um, like social currency, man. Like, it because and it's like, and you're it's not transactional. You're also going, right? I'm giving you people as well.

SPEAKER_01 27:44

I had one guy, it shouldn't those relationships should never feel transactional. It's at the end of the day, like this this stuff is you're working with your friends. Why, why does everything need to be about money and and swapping power? I think that 100%. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

I had I had some it is though. I had some people that were like talking to me about this podcast. They're like, so you're talking to other production teams. Do you feel like they're gonna? I'm like, dude, yeah, because they're awesome people. Like, why not? Like, why not? Like, dude, I'm not based in Massachusetts. I'm not, I don't know anything about Quebec, you know, Montreal, like, but you do. So maybe someone, one of my friends that's watching this that's based out there who's like, dude, Tyler's rad. I want to work with Tyler. And I'll I'd be like, he calls me up, he's like, what do you think about Tyler? I'd be like, dude, he's fucking kick ass, man. Call the kid up, you know, call the guy up, you know, because at the end of the day, we're we're only as good as the community that we build, you know, and the people that we pull along with us.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

And the community is too small to feel like it's a competition. Everyone thinks that they feel threatened, and you go back around and you realize you're talking to the same people and you both know the same person. So when people come on and you bring connections and other camera people, it's like I get asked all the time, do you feel threatened that someone will take your job? And I'm like, it's just us friends hanging out. Like, would you break up your friend group because some other some new guy just came in and and you're worried about the friend group being being different? Would you break up your friend group is where you were at, man?

SPEAKER_00 29:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

Um, I mean, it's that's how I look at it is when people ask if like you feel threatened, it's like, would you break up a friend group if someone new came in and and wanted to learn about it? And there's people everyone's trying to learn and everyone's trying to get more experience, and you can never have enough experience. So I feel like when people, when new people come in, it's just adding another friend to to have us hang out together and just create dope shit together. And that's that's really how it's looked at. It's not it's not transactional, like, oh, I'm gonna miss out on this much money if he if he cuts me. It's like I'm losing out on a friend. It's not, it's never about the money at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

I love that. I love that. If if someone were sitting at home right now with a phone and a dream, what are the first three moves you tell them to make? Or camera and a dream?

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Um, for cameras, I would say look up your favorite video online. Like uh on YouTube, I would go to your favorite, your funniest content creator that you watch or YouTuber you watch, I would look up your favorite music video and I would call your best friend and ask what they what they think. So because you get that aspect of I feel like uh nobody wants to start in like the wedding atmosphere unless like you're thinking just about the money. But if you're looking at a a fun content creator or uh or an artist and you're like, that's the greatest video I've ever seen. It's so well pieced, or a move, like watch your favorite movie and get inspired. It's just trying to find something that inspires you to go create. And for me, it was back to the future. It was watching Drake and concert live. And it's just how how do they do that? And you if it makes you question how did they do that, then that's that's kind of where it leads you because you're more inspired and and more energized to go and find out how they did it.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

I love that, man. If you could go back and give yourself advice before you started this career, what advice would you give yourself? Um don't rush.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

Definitely don't rush. Um, I've con I ran around a lot to try and get everything done and and be a people pleaser because I felt like I had to to maintain relationships. And it's just what comes with the work. And and if you get booked a lot or you're running around and doing 50 things a day, then you're just doing 50 things a day. But um, don't be afraid to say no to people. And and even if you're just starting off, like if you're busy or you're doing something that is very, very important to you and and where you're trying to go, then those people won't leave. If they want to work with you, they're always gonna be around. They're not just gonna go find someone and say, Oh, I'd rather just get it done today and and go do this. If they hit you up to work with you, then that's how it will stay. So definitely don't rush to to get work done.