From Campaign to Congress: Congressman Clay Fuller on Winning in the Digital Age

Congressman Clay Fuller joins the podcast to discuss the digital strategy behind his successful congressional campaign. From small-dollar fundraising and digital advertising to voter engagement and authentic communication, he shares what it takes to win in today's political landscape—and what it's been like transitioning from the campaign trail to serving in Congress. 

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SPEAKER_01 0:06

Hello and welcome to the Digital Politics Podcast. I'm your host, Mike Hahn, president of Digital at Frontline Strategies. Every month we promise to break down what matters to the GOP digital industry, talk to the people driving the change, and give you the insights you won't find anywhere else. This month's guest is one of the newest members of Congress and someone who takes digital and social media very seriously. He previously served as the district attorney for the Lookout Mountain Judicial Circuit from 2023 to 2026 and was elected in a very crowded primary field to Congress in a special election in April to succeed Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green in Georgia's 14th Congressional District. Throughout his special election, he raised just under a quarter of a million dollars from over 5,000 online donors with an average donation of $19. And he did it all while starting from scratch. We're lucky to have him as a client. Congressman Clay Fuller, welcome to the show. Well, you're doing a really good job there. You made quite an impact in in just a couple months here, and it's been an absolute pleasure to work with you. But um before we jump into your election, uh there is uh a lot of news coming out of Georgia as per usual. It's like the political center of the world. Uh I want to just get your reaction briefly to um the primary results, the runoff primary results from last month. Of course, Mike Collins is the now Senate nominee and Rick Jackson is now the governor's uh nominee. I want to get your reaction to that.

SPEAKER_03 1:34

Yeah, absolutely. So I think Georgia is going to be the bell of the ball for most elections moving forward. Uh that's both a blessing and a curse. And we're um getting out there and making sure we're we're doing everything to uh make sure that we're successful in these elections. So we've got two great candidates heading into November. And now my job as the representative for Georgia 14 and in Northwest Georgia is to help both candidates, Mike Collins and Rick Jackson, win this thing because if if these positions, if the governorship turns blue, if the Senate seats turn turns blue, it is a tragedy for not only the state of Georgia, before before the country. You see where the Democrat Party is going. It's getting more and more extreme. It's uh completely embracing communism, which is just shocking for someone like me that grew up in uh in the Cold War era, just to see a political party in the United States completely embrace communism. And so we have to do everything we can as a as a state, as conservatives, as Republicans in Georgia to make sure that the America first candidates, Mike Collins and Rick Jackson, are gonna win. And so my job is just gonna make sure we're we're gonna drive out Georgia 14 and win this thing.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

Yeah. I mean, you guys got a great bench of Republican candidates down there going up against some whack job Democrats in Keisha Lance Bottoms and John Ossoff's stuff.

SPEAKER_03 2:49

I mean, she near she nearly burned down Atlanta more than Sherman. Yeah. And we've got to remind people about that. And uh, you know, it's it's amazing to me that she's gonna try to hang on to John Ossoff's coattails and do everything she can to to win, and they're gonna pour maybe billions of dollars into this race. And um, but we got two strong candidates, and we're gonna make sure that doesn't happen. And I know the president's gonna help.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Absolutely. Yeah, there's gonna just be an obscene amount of money poured into that state, but it's it's gonna be interesting to watch. But uh your election, so let's talk about that. I mentioned it you had a very crowded primary field. President Trump ultimately came out and endorsed you, which was awesome. Um was there a moment in the race where you kind of felt the momentum shift? I know the president's endorsement is obviously huge, but what did it feel like on the ground there the whole time? Because you hit the ground running from your announcement until, you know, the the final vote was counted on election day.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

Yeah, absolutely. And just for your audience for the timeline, this was uh a pretty quick turn. So Marjorie made her announcement in late November. Essentially, you you started trying to get a picture of what the field was going to look like in December. And I know this may come as a shock to your audience, but most people over Christmas and New Year's don't really want to think about politics. And so it's trying to uh the to the best of your ability get an understanding of what the crowded field was gonna look like heading into January. And as far as when I I felt things shift, obviously the president's endorsement is is uh a pretty big uh uh point in the election. But I'd say for any candidate, uh the main thing that I'd say is you've got to build a team around trust. And I was really blessed with not only your firm, Mike, we he I think we met in early December, and there were members of your team that were just uh incredible people and and trustworthy people. And I knew y'all were the were the right firm to go to go with. But my general consultant, Mitch Hunter, uh just someone that I can completely trust, and as I talked to people, said he's basically the only person in politics that you can fully trust. And I would say the first step that you have to do is make sure that you're getting a team around you that you can trust in a very, very difficult night fight, which this primary was going to be. And then the second part I'd say, uh, and this is no credit to me, my team put together this kind of mailer booklet because you know, no one really had any name ID in in the race. There were about 17 other candidates, I think. And the we really invested in the this mailer as a booklet, and uh it was kind of the the brainchild of uh Mitch and some other folks in our team. And it went out to uh everyone uh that we wanted to make sure we were driving out to to vote, and it was an incredible first introduction to the electorate. And we heard so many positive things and people jumping on board once they got that mailer and universally from the political world, they said uh this was probably the best piece of political mail that they had ever seen. And a lot of that was just based on the small dollar donations that y'all were bringing in. So it's you've got to build the right team uh to put the the right plan in place and and fund it.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Well, thank you for those kind words. And yes, Mitch absolutely deserves a shout-out. I mean, he was incredible to work with. This was the first race I actually worked with him on, and uh, I hope that there's a lot more in the future to work with Mitch on because he was great. Um But yeah, I mean you mentioned it. You know, uh when we're talking about the small dollar donors, you need a really good uh candidate with a good background to really resonate with some of these folks. And I think you do a very good job at that. And one thing I want to point to is these selfie style videos that you post on social media, and they perform very well. Why do you think voters respond to that type of content from their elected leaders?

SPEAKER_03 6:24

Yeah, well, I I think since President Trump came down the escalator in in 2015, I think what you've seen in this political era is that people are just looking for authenticity. There's got to be a story behind it. It's gotta be uh authentic. I think that's the the major thing that you're seeing with uh the the grand platinum issues right now is that it's just a completely fabricated story uh where they're trying to cover up for a horrible human being. But I think voters are starving for people who will look them in the eye, tell them the truth, and be authentic, even when it's good things, when it's bad things. And that was something something that so I was an elected district attorney, and I would often uh as as I was driving around my four county circuit, I would pull over, just make a video and tell them about problems that I was seeing in the community, problems that I was seeing in the nation and what I was trying to do about it. And it was something that I saw uh really resonated with people. And when I'd see folks, they'd say, We really appreciate your updates. And that's something that we wanted to continue uh in Capitol Hill. And we've we've done that. And there's been a couple of them. One went viral where uh I did a kind of a satirical post about uh an air conditioning unit in in Maryland. And it was an important lesson of there was a Capitol Hill reporter who uh tried to call me out on some things, and it was the first lesson of people are going to deliberately misinterpret you. And it's uh a real example that on the right, we can bring humor and facts and satire to just the problems that we're seeing in the country. And I think voters are are really looking for that when people uh can be authentic, talk straight to the camera and talk straight to them and look them in the in the eye and say, here are the problems that I'm seeing.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

I urge everyone to go look up that video and Google it. It's fantastic. I mean, I I don't see a problem with pointing out that Ronald Acunio was born in Atlanta. I mean, I I don't know the problem. It was a great video. Yeah. Um how do we get some of these older members of Congress to embrace what you're doing on social media, right? Uh, you know, I I don't think that they necessarily always listen to their younger staff or even younger members who are doing it so well. Um how do we get them to really uh get their message out there through social media in ways that they may feel uncomfortable doing so?

SPEAKER_03 8:39

It's a great question. I I think just you've got to have the right staff around them to trust them. And you know, it it really is uncomfortable. I mean, prior to me being an elected district attorney, and basically social media for me and my my phone was just a way to like update my grandparents or something like that. So it wasn't something that I was used to and uh just talking to a camera. And as a prosecutor, you know, when when you're in the courtroom in front of juries, you're getting reactions from people real time, and it's just a very strange way to communicate for people who aren't used to it. I know that there's a generation of folks who are are native to to communicating that way. So I just say, you know, getting them over the learning curve, uh, show that it's something really effective. And uh I think Tim Burchett is someone that uh people are seeing as had a a real impact by doing this and just speaking directly to camera, just saying, hey, this is garbage and I hate it. And people are like, oh, finally, someone on Capitol Hill is saying that. And uh that sort of exposure and and authenticity can kind of be uncomfortable for people when they're they're not in front of an audience. Uh, but it's it's no different than the transition that some politicians needed to make from radio to TV. Uh they just need to understand this is this isn't going away anytime soon. And you've got to find figure out a way to be effective with it. And uh because people know when it's a stabber talking as opposed to you.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

Yeah. I I mean, I think it's also a reason why some of the most radical left-wing politicians also resonate, like the AOCs and the mandanis of the world. It's because they've really mastered social media. So Yeah, I mean, good on you for for for leaning into that because it is the future, it's not going anywhere. And uh, like I said, uh it would be nice if we can get some other members on the Hill doing the same thing because we're the we're talking to people on real people on social media. It's not always just going to be on the TVs anymore.

SPEAKER_03 10:28

Yeah, no, I agree. And you know, I I'd say there I've had a lot of help on Capitol Hill. Again, going back to Tim Burchett, there was one video that we did. It was late after uh a committee hearing. And you know, he's someone with a huge following, and it meant a lot to me as as a new member for someone like a Tim Burchett to be like, hey, it's two o'clock in the morning or whatever time it was. Let's do a video together on on this issue and I'll I'll retweet it and get you more exposure. And I think it's just gonna take that kind of teamwork to talk to other members to say, hey, uh, this is how we we get our message out, and you've got to win the terms of discourse. That's what plu politics is about. And there's there's too many people on the left who are a little more effective than we are, but you know, we're we're gaining ground and uh eventually we're gonna win that fight because we have the best message.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Absolutely. Yep. Um, which is the perfect pivot to my next question because for the longest time Democrats were crushing us on the small dollar uh throughout past cycles. And Republicans have finally made a lot of gains, and you're someone who has seen a lot of really good small dollar success, um, especially with your your past election and continuing on to your future elections. So what surprised you most about learning uh about some of these small dollar supporters and the fact that people across the entire country cared about your race, not just the folks in Georgia or even just Georgia 14.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

And and that was that was the initial uh learning lesson from that is your your race isn't just your the zip codes that you represent or the counties that you represent. Um people deeply care about um people who are going to represent the country in Washington, and there's a a whole network of people who who want to be invested in in good candidates and do something to um help candidates that that they believe in. So the movement isn't just something in in the congressional district or wherever you're running. It's a it's a nationwide movement that people are going to respond to a message or your background or what you represent. And you know, that's where your firm is so incredible of uh distilling what that message should be, sending it out to uh those folks across the country who deeply care about where the country is going and want to positively impact it. And then the incredi the other amazing thing to me is you know, you you get these handwritten notes from people across the country, and sometimes they're $5, $10, $25 donations. And there's so many messages to to my wife and to me personally with Bible verses or inspirational quotes. And it's just so uplifting because when you're in the middle of a political race, there's some negativity associated with that. But then when you get those messages from, you know, a a person in California or Oregon or Washington State just saying, hey, keep going, and here's uh here's a little bit of uh money from from my my checkbook, uh, it just means the world to you and and inspires you. And it's one of those really fun things to go check the the PO box every day and get those messages. And that's a that's a testament to the network that you've built as a fur and um making sure that message gets out to voters that they want to support someone with with my background.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

Thank you. But yeah, I I I think too, uh President Trump has just made politics so big in everyone's life. He's really gotten people to care about it. And you touched on this, but you know, why would someone in Washington care about a Georgia 14 election? Not that we thought that it was gonna go Democrat at any point, but these races all do have national implications now. I mean, we have a thin majority in the House. Um, you know, we're all worried about making sure we keep on to the Senate, and it all boils down to the fact that we want to continue the the last two years of the Trump administration in as strong a way as possible before we get into impeachment and investigation mania. So it it is it is important because people across the country really do care about these specific races because it does affect their their their lives and their vote for the president.

SPEAKER_03 14:24

You're you're absolutely right. And the person who is going to, you know, review an email that that's sent to them, look at my background, take the time to write a check and and then mail it or you know, hop on the website and make a small dollar donation, they're the people who understand that uh as a republic because we have eternal vigilance. And those are the people who can who care about this country and love this country and want to positively impact it. They're the ones that stay up late at night and watch the state of the union and this previous state of the union with with President Trump. He did such an effective job of saying, here's what Republicans stand for, quite literally, and here's what what Democrats sit for. And the thing that broke my heart the most as a prosecutor, and I I'm sure you remember this uh very clearly, Mike, was when Irina Zaruska's mom, the the girl who was the Ukrainian girl that was murdered on the Charlotte light rail, um, you know, re Republicans stood and clapped for her, and Democrats sat there and didn't do anything. And that's that's the difference in what this this country can be. And uh it's we're we're the the party that that's fighting for public safety to make sure that uh people aren't getting arrested 30 and 40 times and then being released just to murder people. These are common sense ideas. And uh you saw exactly what the Democrats are going to support, and that's where people get motivated to say, I'm gonna get it involved in a race in Georgia 14 because I want someone who's gonna fight for the president every day.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

It really is just picking sides between good and bad. I mean, I don't know how you how you can't.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

You're you're much nicer than me. I'd call it evil. Yeah, yeah, evil.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

It's what it is. I mean, it's uh just but that's what gets people to open up their their checkbook, like you said, and donate is because people do see this as an existential battle. I mean, the fact that that is broadcasted in homes across the nation, the fact that Democrats can't cheer for a kid with brain cancer just because the president brought him to the State of the Union. I mean, it's just it's just maddening. Um All right. So you are on, of course, Capitol Hill now. What are some of the more surprising things you learned uh that you could share with the audience uh that we may not know about everyday life of uh of a congressman? I I've talked about this a little bit before.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

I I feel like I so I'm 45, I feel like I'm in decent shape, but then I got to Capitol Hill, the amount that I have to walk around, so I made some really bad shoe decisions in in the first week. So had had to switch that up a little bit. But the the main the main challenge and and surprise has been just making sure that um I I always want uh additional information to review. I'm I'm a status person, I want constant information to know about the health of my district, both from an economic standpoint, a social standpoint, education, uh health standpoint. And you know, it's it's there there was no kind of one-stop platform uh on uh on Capitol Hill to be like, okay, here I can plug into the system and get all the data that I need. If you think about like uh the back of a baseball car or something to see the the stats of a player or something like that. And you know, the the executive branch has been great when I requested a brief on a specific issue, they'll come over, but that's not real-time information. So that's kind of been the surprise. And we're working on kind of some technical uh technology solutions to just uh allow me to have more information uh that's readily available and represents what's going on day to day, so I can have those policy responses.

SPEAKER_01 17:43

Interesting. I I wonder as as the younger generation really starts to make their way into Congress, if that really starts to change, right? Because you have all these old antiquated ways of you know, snail mail getting to people. And it's you know, we're so used to just you know i immediate results on our phone. And yeah, I mean that's crazy. I never really thought about that. The fact that we don't have that in Congress, uh, that's tough. How do you how do you get results in real time? Wow, that's really interesting.

SPEAKER_03 18:09

No, I mean that's that's one of those things that I, you know, we're we're a co-equal branch of government. I know Federalist 51. We've we've got to make sure that we have every bit of information that our other branches have. You know, it's kind of funny. I'm I'm a lawyer by trade, prosecutor by trade, and so I'm used to uh having a legal research engine. And when I got my my laptop, you know, I asked my team, hey, is there a way that I can get um a legal research platform like Lexus or Westlaw or something like that? And um the the the feedback from uh the larger house that makes these decisions was we don't think we've ever had a member that's asked for this. And then also there is there is one computer at uh the Library of Congress that you can go to if you need to do your legal research. And that's like a quarter mile away. And I'm like, that's that's on an old Dell PC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta put in the floppy disk and boot it up and all this kind of stuff. So I was like, that's that's not the right answer. So in the couple of months that we've been there, we're we're trying to work on those technology solutions because I want I want to be the most informed member of Congress, and we're we're working toward that and we'll we'll get there.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

Well, good for you on that. Uh that's exciting. Um All right. We move into the rapid fire questions. These are more fun questions here. Um I got three. First one, if you could have dinner with any historical figure, who would it be?

SPEAKER_03 19:27

I so it any historical figure, I I know these are kind of cliche, and I'm gonna go beyond one. So, but I'm gonna go into kind of very specific points about why I'd I'd want to have dinner with them. So it's a it's a three-person dinner. Okay. Uh, we're gonna have Abraham Lincoln, and he's coming in in the summer of 1864. I don't know if you so this is kind of the deer of the Lincoln administration, his lowest point. He actually writes a memo, uh, you know, essentially telling his administration, hey, we're gonna lose in in November. We've got to do everything we can to uh to keep the the union together and keep on fighting to hand this off to the next administration. Of course, he he doesn't know at that point, you know, in in just uh a number of months, not only is he gonna win a landslide, he's gonna win the Civil War and then end up, you know, being being assassinated in April of 1865. And um, so I I love talking to uh leaders about their most challenging points in their life. That's one conversation that I'd like to s to have is just say, hey, talk to me about where you are in the summer of 1864, just uh probably the the lowest point of your life in your presidential administration. The other one, um, you know, and then Lincoln would also be a part of this conversation. So I'm a big uh Shakespeare guy. And beyond just uh the the writings, the plays, um, his understanding of human nature, of power, the thing that people don't necessarily know about uh Shakespeare from a historical standpoint, he came from a know-nothing town like I did in Northeast Georgia. Uh he didn't have a university education, he didn't have powerful family members, and you know, he he's a very young father at like 19 or 20, and he moves to basically a a world away into London from his small town to just become a playwright, leaves his family in a remarkably short period of time. And uh Stephen Greenblatt write writes about this really well in a biography of him, but um becomes not only the greatest playwright of that era, but probably the greatest writer in in human history. Sure. And just just to be able to talk to someone like, hey, walk me through that. You know, how do you make the decision to leave a young family? And at some point during his career, um, he loses an 11-year-old son to the plague. Uh how do you make a decision to continue on your career and um know that you've got a level of of talent that you have to just kind of see through? Then the last one, uh not to get too too dark, and I know this is kind of a conventional choice, but uh one conversation that I I'd want to have is with Jesus. So one of the most powerful statements that I think. In human history, is when Jesus is on the cross and asks uh the question citing Psalm 22, uh, why have you forsaken me? And I think that's the the most human that we see Jesus and and the gospels. And just to know that someone with his understanding of the sacrifice that he's making for um all of humankind, to feel that loneliness and distance from God. That's that's a conversation that I'd love to have with him and get an understanding of uh just um what what that moment felt like because then I think we've all felt moments in our lives and in our faith walk and in my Christianity where where God has been distant is something that Mother Teresa has talked about uh as well in her religious experience. And uh I think it's the most powerful statement in in human history. So we'd love to talk to those three. I think of this uh a pretty good dinner group and would be a lot of fun too, a lot of jokes.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

But yeah, I hope I'm included in that dinner reservation. But Jesus is one that I we've I don't think we've ever gotten before. And I feel like that's probably the most obvious one. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Yeah. I feel I felt like that would be the the most cliche. Yeah, that's what I wow, that was that was good. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

Yeah, so Matt Matthew 27, 46. That's where, you know, I I'm not gonna pronounce it in Aramaic or whatever, but uh, you know, I I just would love to talk to him about that moment and why. I mean, he's going through a you know the the most horrible experience that you could go through from a capital punishment standpoint. Yeah, and in that moment, he knows the Bible so well, he recalls a specific line from Psalm 22 in the in the depths of despair, you know. So, anyways, I I would love to do that and have that conversation.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

That was a very good, yeah. I'm I'm sitting here like, wow, I don't think I've heard anyone say that. That's really good.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

And the other thing, going back to Lincoln, you know, he he goes through all that stuff, and it I don't know if you've read the the second inaugural in a long time, but that's you know, with malice toward Russ. And could you imagine like everything he's been through? Man, uh my inaugural address would have been like, I told you so. None of y'all believed in me. I would have sounded like Rick Blair or something like that, just being up there wooing the entire time during the inaugural address. And here he is, like trying to trying to heal the country with malice toward Rudd.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

I'd have a lot of malice toward everyone. Oh yeah, I'd be mouthing off quite a bit. All right, number two, if Congress had a walk-up song like baseball players do, what would yours be? This is great.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

Isn't isn't this, you know, I I don't want to come home and have my family ask, you know, how was your day? I I want them to be, hey, what's what's your walk-up song today? Like, but isn't that the question that every dude just just wants to get on the on the day today? All thought about it. Oh, a hundred percent. Um, you know, I was just we we did the congressional baseball game, and I may make this uh make this suggestion to Roger Williams, the manager, like we we need some walk-up songs, but uh uh mine it's an easy choice uh and fits with with my air. It's uh and sorry if this is a family podcast, but American Badass by by Kid Rock. Perfect. Um it's it's an incredible song. The other thing is, you know, uh not just besides it just being in an awesome celebration of being an American, but um, I don't know if you know this, but they actually, you know, I'm I I was uh a person who was completely shaped by 9-11. Yeah. I was at the Air Force Academy on 9-11. And um prior to that, that is when the uh the USS Coal, which was uh attacked by Al-Qaeda operatives uh off the coast of Yemen, when they were uh towing the coal out of the Gulf of Aden, I believe. Um they played American Badass. And so that was kind of the the the tie back to not only is it just just an awesome song, but the tie back to um just my my my kind of national security experience and the reason I went to the public life in the first place and just uh the memory of uh uh the USS Cole and what's led us down to um a a continuing fight against terrorism.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

Some of the best patriotic songs came out of that time period. I mean, you know, there's so many to list, but I mean you think of Lee Greenboard and uh uh Toby Keith. You know, a lot of good music came from a very, very uh tough time. But uh yes um all right, last thing. Most surprising thing you've learned since arriving in Washington. Other than the shoes.

SPEAKER_03 26:23

Uh gosh, that that's a that's a great question. Um the the most surprising thing that uh I've learned since arriving in in Washington is just um and it it shouldn't have been a a surprise. You you think when you go into um an election, you're gonna come in there and just be like, all right, guys, I I just won a special election. Uh the voters of my district sent me here to to solve all the problems, and here are all my great ideas. And when when you get there, it's uh you you may have the best ideas in the world, but you don't have the relationships in place yet to really, really get it done and and make sure that it's it's moving, moving through. And that was a lesson that I learned very, very quickly. Um so house leadership, uh I you know, knew I've been talking about rural issues, especially related to um Appalachia, and that I wanted to talk about that. And uh they allowed me to work on a resolution to kind of celebrate everything that um they've been doing from a policy standpoint to lift uh forgotten communities like mine in Northwest Georgia and where I grew up in Northeast Georgia. And then it took just the relationships in the house to convince people to to even vote for this and and celebrate it. And um, so you know, talking to Representative Brian Jack, I think he might have mentioned I was one of the um the newest members maybe in in history of Congress to pass something, and I passed it within um you know my first week of of being there. And um I, you know, you could have had the most perfect piece of legislation, but if you didn't have the relationships in place with people like uh the leadership of the House and uh Representative Brian Jack and some other folks who helped move this forward, there's no way to get anything done. And so that's been a main thing that I've been working on since since I got there is just just introducing myself to people, uh just saying, here, uh I can I can help you on your legislation or whatever you need, and just building those relationships to make sure I'm having the positive been back for Georgia 14. Because everything I need to do while I'm on Capitol Hill is to make sure I'm fighting for the people that sent me to Capitol Hill. And so everything I do is to make sure I'm being more effective for the hardworking people with Georgia 14.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

Yeah, because she mentioned him, there is no better person uh the than Brian Jack to get relationships from. He's yeah, a really good guy.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

Um, he's the master of it, and that's it it it's just been sitting down with him and just kind of learning what his process is, forget for getting to know people and the and the human train of of the building as well, because that's that's just as important as the the procedural hurdles that you have to get through. So navigating that and having someone to kind of uh shorten that vertical learning curve is has been great, and I've been grateful to to represent that especially when he's in your delegation, that's even better.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, he's he's incredible.

unknown 29:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Congressman, thank you for hopping on. Uh, if you don't mind, tell the audience where they can uh catch some of your selfie style videos and posts that go viral when people don't understand them. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

I just just so you know, I can I can do uh some sarcastic videos every once in a while. So you gotta you gotta check it. Um uh I may uh I got some criticism for uh having a backwards hat from time to time. So maybe when you see the backwards hat, don't take me so seriously. But um uh we're on Facebook there, uh uh uh both from the official side and and on the the campaign campaign side. We're on X uh uh Clay for Main Street there and then on the the official side too. And um any sort of updates or information or uh those those Bible verses of small dollar donations can go to clayfuler for georgia.com and we we have a mailer as well that we've started that we're we're sending out now.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

So Facebook and and X are the the ways to kind of follow us right now. Awesome. Well, thanks again, Congressman, and thank you guys for listening to the Digital Politics Podcast. If you like what you heard, please share with your friends. Be sure to like, follow, and subscribe to the show. That will do it for us. We will be back in August for episode 10.