CIA REMOTE VIEWING? | CRNRSTN Collective - Episode 28

In this episode, the host, J, along with co-hosts Javan and Angus discuss several of the testimonies being shared by famous and rich figures from millionaires in School of Hard Knocks interviews to the Venezuelan baseball team and even the rapper Xerogang. The trio also looks at interesting developments in relation to allegations against Cesar Chavez and new connections to Epstein potentially being a reptile. They also look at the confirmation of the CIA using remote viewing methods in witchcraft for uses of spy work. The three of them talk about new developments in technology as well, with the metaverse finally shutting down, robot birds being developed by the US, and Tesla factories switching to production of robots rather than cars. They then look at a list of what the top 1% of humans are able to do and rate themselves on that scale. Finally, the group looks at the importance of donating to missions through Kingdom Builders as well as what it means to take action in spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hello, friends. Welcome to the Cornerstone Collective. My name is Jay Brown. Your host. With me today is Angus McLeod.

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Hey, hey.

SPEAKER_01 0:05

As well as Javen Brown. Hello, hello. Today we want to start out talking about one of our seven C's that's commitment. And those seven C's are commitment, community, communication, competence, creativity, compassion, and celebration. We want to go to Romans 8 and ask Angus to read it for us.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. Romans 8, 1 and 2.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Amen to that. Amen. Huge, huge. And Angus, you and I just got a chance to go and connect with a group of pastors here in Phoenix Metro. The pastors were from not just here, but other places, but mainly from here. Friends of ours, some others that we were just meeting for the first time. A lot of them Hispanic pastors and leaders, some of them doing language, you know, um services in English and Spanish. Um, but really connected to Pastor Sergio de la Mora, which is actually a pastor out of San Diego, uh kind of a famous church in Cornerstone Church there, became Turning Hearts Church. Uh, and then famously also he had a fall from grace because they made he made some uh mistakes in his in his personal life, cost him his marriage and some other things, but has since uh gone through restoration, couple year process and all those things now back connected. Man, what a powerful time! Really interesting to be in that group. What'd you think today?

SPEAKER_00 1:24

It was it was really interesting, uh, especially because usually we're not the minority when we go places. And so I walked in and I thought, am I in the right spot? Because I I had gotten kind of a last-minute invitation to it. Uh, but it was it was awesome. Everybody was really friendly. It was it was really neat though to hear just the different ways the um the the Hispanic pastors really they talk so much about family, you know, and the importance of family, and uh, and that was something that was really that really stood out to me that um there's just such a huge focus. And because of that, that's one of the reasons why we're seeing such a growth in Hispanic churches is because of the focus on the the family unit.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Yeah, amen. I thought it was really great. Javen, you have a Hispanic heritage, in in part you're quarter Mexican because your mom's half, your grandpa is full, they're out of our family on your on your mom's side, is from Mexico City, uh larger Mexico City, and obviously all your aunts and uncles and everybody that was there with Grandpa Angel from your side, Hispanic. You've had a lot of chance to interact with the Hispanic culture and with specially Pastor Raul and others that are connected to it. What was your experience this last summer as we ran around?

SPEAKER_02 2:30

Oh, it was it was great to be down in South America. Um, I mean, not it like really there's a difference between like being Latino and South American, obviously, but to run around with a bunch of people that were Latino that were in our group was pretty fun. Um, yeah, definitely huge values on family. Uh it's interesting because the people that we were with were so kind of like internationally um like observiant and very like cultured in in that regard, but at the same time, they're very central and like essentially based their entire life around their family. We know, like, um shout out to Pastor Alberto, but he has been like or really kept his family at the core of what they've done, especially because they've been through so many places in the last like 10 years or so. Um, so it's it was really cool to see that. As far as like my own personal experience with it, I haven't really been into much contact with um like that whole kind of side of living with like a really big extended family that's all like Hispanic, going to like quincenatas, things like that. Um, we're pretty whitewashed as far as that goes, especially on my mom's side. And they'll they'll be the first people to admit it, kind of died with my grandpa as far as like keeping that Mexican culture alive. Um, I don't think any of my cousins had quincenates or anything like that, but um, yeah. I mean, I I still understand it to some degree. There's a bunch of people that's uh had things like that over here, but I haven't really been to a whole lot.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Yeah, it's been a little different for us in that we were obviously international, so we didn't have a lot of connection to family whenever we were younger, but definitely had those people around us, a part of us all all the time. Today, some really great takeaways from some of that stuff, Angus. What was your kind of takeaway?

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Yeah, so um one of the things that's great about going to pastor events is especially when we're not in charge, is we get to participate. Right. And we don't have to be watching what's going on and all of that stuff, so we can really go and receive. Um, and so I I didn't know exactly what I wanted to receive, but I knew I needed something from the Lord. And man, it was probably one of the most powerful altar times that I've uh that I've had. I I was kind of sharing before we got on the show. It's it's still kind of rough, but I'll I'll share uh as as clearly as I can. Uh but uh what when I went up to the altar, I realized um one of the disconnects that I've had between my l between the Lord and I is that I was looking at him through the lens of my father. And so while while I know he's God and I never put my dad's face on God when I would bring something, um I would still expect disappointment on his side or criticism. Because that's that's typically what what I would get is, you know, in effort to make me better, my dad would give criticism and and those sorts of things to try and help uh spur you along. But what I didn't realize that it hid uh, you know, we've talked in previous podcasts about how that becomes your your dad's voice can become your internal monologue. Right. Um, and that uh had also just kind of transferred and had also become part of the voice of God in my mind. Um, and so it so I realized that God had been a lot more critical of me uh than he really was, and it was because I was looking at him through the wrong lens.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

That's man, I I love your transparency. I think that'll be an encouragement to people that are listening to us and watching because I think they can connect you, those are in community with us, they understand, or those have been listening to us, they understand like who you are as a genuine person, and obviously you do this thing sent to God, but you can do that and still not have the right frame of reference. We talk about mindset often. Yeah, sometimes you don't even realize to like your point that you're doing that. So, man, uh you know, kudos to you to be transparent and share that so other people can learn.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

Well, that what's excit I mean, like I said, I'm still processing it, I'm still going through all of the things, but what makes me so excited about it is to to realize that because I had that wrong perspective, now my pursuit will be different. You know, and so as I'm as I'm pursuing the true because I've been asking the Lord, I I want to seek his face, uh, because we're really good at uh asking to see his hands. Yeah. Um and uh as a father, I had just gotten to a place where you know things are so busy and my kids asking me, Dad, can I have this, this, this, this, this. I thought, man, how does God feel? Because I know that I know that all it takes is one afternoon and I'm questioned out. I'm I'm requested out, and uh and I know that I asked the Lord a lot of things. And um, and so I just thought, you know what, it'd be really nice if if my kids, when they came up, if they wanted just to be with me and not that. And my kids do, but I realized that you know, that that same thing that I'm yearning for is the same thing that God's wanting for each and every one of us. We go all the time and we ask God this, this, fix this, fix this. All He wants to do is just look in our eyes and us to look back.

SPEAKER_01 7:22

Yeah, man.

unknown 7:22

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 7:23

That's good. Yeah, some really good moments myself. Uh, you know, it was uh different for me. Um, uh, you know, I had a different experience, but today, but really good. It's interesting, you know. You sit right by a friend, you've been you've been, you know, we walked over a lot of roads together, man, but you're in a different journey in your different place, even though you're hearing the same content.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

So really good. You know, he's talking to the ideas of vision and passion and dedication and what it means to be those that are going and doing the things that God called you to do. I really liked his tie-in. I don't think I've ever used that scripture verse. And so him talking about Lot and talking about how Lot didn't want to go to the place that he asked him to go, but instead is somewhere comfortable. And I was like, oh, felt like I was getting slapped, man. And I was like, oh, that's not that does not feel great.

SPEAKER_00 8:05

Yeah, well, because that comfortable place was not necessarily a safe place. It was just comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

Yeah, he's saying that's one of the most dangerous places you could be, is where you feel you know safe and comfortable because you don't want to move from there to the next place. And man, what a challenge. Oh, so challenging. Really, really good. Very thankful for that. Very thankful for Pastor Arwul and Pastor George and some neighboring friends of ours uh invited us to come along and connect up with them. So what a blessing to be a part of it and an encouragement to me personally, just really, just really enjoyed it. So very thankful for the opportunity to be a part and and to uh be in the mix on it. So praise God. Hey, one of the things that we do here is talk about um our commitment to God, and one of those things that's been neat is that on the internet uh there's been a there's been one of these guys that's a YouTuber and does a lot of things, TikTok and Instagram, a bunch of stuff. Uh it's called School of Hard Knocks. Have you guys had a chance to see this guy? Does interviews with millionaires and billionaires?

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Yeah, he walks up to them and asks them what they do, that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Exactly. Right. Jamie, did you see this one? I sent it on to you guys. It was the interview that he's doing with them with a guy's worth 500 million, and he's given a breakdown on all the hard work he did, and he's like, What do you attribute to? And he's like, My faith in Jesus Christ. Just straight up a gangster, man. Did you see any of those?

SPEAKER_02 9:10

Uh I've seen a little bit of it. Is he like a younger kid? I think he's like 18, 19, something like that.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Yeah, he's probably maybe early 20s.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

I I thought he was like just out of high school when he was doing it, but I I could be wrong. Um but I've I've seen stuff like that. I just haven't seen that specific interview, but that's really cool that that that it happened. That's like not every day that you'd get somebody that's that rich that's able to uh profess their faith in that way. I mean, like we know even the Bible talks about how hard it is for the rich man to get into heaven. Yeah, and you see so many of like the the rich dudes that he interviews like barely even have time for the interview because they just stack their lives so much, yeah. And they're going up from thing to thing to thing that it's hard to like really settle down and I I don't know, just not be full of yourself at that point when everything you do is kind of in order to invest in like your own life and your own family's life. Like it's great that he's attributing that all back to the source. So it's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

I loved it. There was not just his interview there, but um others that he did on his channel where it'd be someone who they're like, Oh, how much you guys worth? They're like, Oh, we're worth 2.2 billion dollars. And they're like, What? And they're like, Yeah, we just sold our company to such and such, and it's like some something that you would know. And it's like a couple who owned it together, who did it together, and like, yeah, you know, it's like it was based on our faith together, our relationship together. Like, it was just really cool. You hear some of these testimonies, and it's like people who are doing it, man, they're like in the top, top space, you know, and what they're doing. So I love how you can kind of tell that this person, um, he has his own faith journey too, is somewhere there because he's asking these kind of questions, which I thought was pretty powerful. So, shout out to School Hard Knocks, and uh man, I think we've all taken some hard knocks. Better that we learn from them.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

Yeah, well, this what was cool though is the guy he was in his 80s. Yep. Uh that the that he was particularly not look like it. He did not look, he looked like he was firmly in his 60s. Definitely. Uh, and uh and he goes, the in fact uh the interviewer didn't believe that he was in his 80s, and he goes, So what do you attribute it to? And he said, Well, it's what my grandfather said stay away from alcohol, drugs, smoking, and fast women.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

Fast women, yeah. I was like, this man preaching, but to take an offering, man.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

Exactly. But you know, I mean, it it's the uh it's exactly what clean living does. Yeah, yeah. You know, um, it's it really does make a difference when you cut that stuff out.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

I'm pretty sure he's probably eaten pretty clean as well.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

If I had to guess, he's probably doing doing all the good things.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

So yeah, pretty great. Uh, another hike for um faith and interaction with people was the Venezuela baseball team. They're during the baseball classic, which is recently just happening. Uh, we here in Phoenix are one of the two markets where we have spring training for baseball. So half the teams they come to the cactus league here in Phoenix, the other half they go to Florida to the to the Citrus League over there. And so we have the two the two ones that are happening. And so the Cactus League over here, we had a bunch of the baseball classic teams kind of doing warm-up against the against some of the pro teams, and then they were obviously made of pro players, but then they go on to to battle each other. But man, did you guys see the Venezuela baseball team? They were popping off in the locker room, man, like having proper church. Did you guys see some of that?

SPEAKER_00 12:08

It's wild. It's so cool to see that um that these people at at certain levels are starting to really express their faith and uh and express who they are. I I think that that's wonderful.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

It was a cool interview, man. He's like talking about the power of the spirit of God and like just they're just real they're right in the middle of the thing. It just happened to be a camera there. They were a whole bunch of guys ganged up like praying. So, Jamie, you've seen some of these locker room moments? Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

Uh, I think it's great, especially for uh baseball, because we know now that baseball is like such a high-paying sport, and once again, once you get into the money thing, it's easy to be all inflated about your ego and things like that. Um, but it's awesome that they're paying uh back that attribution to Jesus Christ. And I think I think it's awesome because that also echoes things that we've seen about like a bunch of national teams coming from like soccer. Like we see like um a bunch of the South American players before they even step out onto the pitch for something like football, will like cross themselves or like get on the floor and literally pray on their knees before they even touch the field and then they'll go out. Um, a lot of it's in respect to people that have died while they were like trying to chase that dream, and then now they know that they're looking out upon them from heaven, and then a lot of it's also just because they they know who the one that protects them and who the one that provides for them is. So it's awesome to see not only that it's only carried within like one facet of sports, but that this is like something that's been global. And I think the fact that stuff like this isn't really getting as headlined as much in America kind of speaks to where we're headed as a country, but it's awesome to see that there's still that like flicker or simmer of hope in there, too.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

So yeah, I agree. It's like uh pretty amazing. There's been a lot of people in recent days who have made a commitment to Christ, and and you see people getting baptized, all sorts of different people having really big life change. We talked about some of those, like Daddy Yankee in the past, and I mean real popular just drop music. Um man, we just saw um different ones that you know, like Paul Wall did a song, you know, with Forrest Frank in Houston. Like we see some of these things popping off, which has been pretty cool in that in that uh that space. One of the ones that we saw recently at which Javen, I don't know if you know this guy, is Zero Gang. He was talking about his life to Christ, but he kind of comes out of the those new TikTok kind of rappers and SoundCloud guys. Look like that kind of space. I've never heard of him, but I I'm not sure. So he looked like a pretty, pretty interesting character.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

Yeah, they they all look fairly similar to me, unfortunately. I mean, I'm saying the old man would have to be. But I mean, you know, he's got the face tattoo, the neck tattoos, and all of that. And so, you know, he's professing Christ, and that's awesome. So I'm just I'm I'm gonna continue to pray for him, uh, just like the other celebrities, because yeah, uh being up there on the platform and people looking at you, uh, it just makes you a bigger target for the enemy. And so for somebody who is involved in that in that lifestyle and stuff, I'm you know, praise God that he's free. I just pray that he continues to walk in that freedom, that he'd be able to spread that, spread the gospel, and that uh he just he wouldn't be pulled back into it.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Amen. Yeah, that's I think that's has to be all of our prayer, you know, for ourselves as well. It would be being a good example. Obviously, they're on a pedestal in some ways because they're people are looking up to them for their their ability as an artist. And so I think for them to reflect Christ is a powerful thing. Um, yeah, I mean, obviously, then also all their flaws are going to be going to be made known to you, which is tough, and that's part of us living that out and understanding we're not perfect, but we need to, you know, be more like Jesus. We say it all the time. Yep. Be more like Jesus. Uh, one of the cool things, someone we follow uh is Pastor Josh Howerton. He's out of Texas and has a very vibrant church, a very impactful church, has a good podcast. We referenced it before as well. Something cool that happened at their church, which I really like recently, and we've had these moments at our church where like a number of people getting baptized on the same day, pretty good, but man, they got some different numbers, and we've experienced it. 700 people baptized on one weekend at their church.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

That's incredible. Isn't that amazing? No, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

I was so cool, man. I mean, obviously, you have to have those people making life dislife change decisions following Christ and then reinforcing it with baptism. It's so neat, man.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

It is, it is. You know, uh uh because I was because I grew up Episcopalian where they do infant baptism, baptism meant something completely different for me when, you know, because I didn't grow up with it. Um, and so in gaining understanding and stuff, it's it's been very important and and it's uh to understand exactly what it is. And we've had a few people that they uh they think, oh, I can't get baptized because of this or that. Um and so I would just challenge anybody who's who's uh thinking about it because we do baptisms all the time, call into the office, talk to one of us so that we can can help educate and and let people know. Uh, because just because you were baptized as a as a baby in the Catholic Church doesn't mean that you can't be baptized as a believer.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

Yeah, absolutely. And that's for us, we we connect to Jesus' example of being baptized by immersion. We see it throughout scripture, specifically in Romans, where we talk about we are dead to sin, we are alive to God. And so this um this is symbolic of a grave to self. And so as you as you go into the water, uh it it represents that coming out of it. It's the washing uh of that and all that that it means and becoming a new creation as unto God. So powerful moments. Um, we've seen people experience healings coming out of baptism, freedom from all sorts of stuff. So praise the Lord, man. It's some real cool moments there. Yeah, another thing that happened with those guys uh with uh Pastor Josh's church is they they married 52 couples in this these big massive ceremonies, which we've done a couple, like where we had a few of them at the same time, which I've done. But uh man, 52 is that's quite the quite the number.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

I started to think that's a lot of symbus training right there. So at our church, we do symbus, which is saving your marriage before it starts. Uh it's kind of the premarital counseling, and so I I hope that those couples went through some sort of a premarital process of follow-up, yeah, or follow-up or something like that. But uh both would be better a hundred percent. Definitely, but I was thinking, oh, that's a lot of symbus class, which uh is a good thing. I mean, yeah, uh symbus is one of those things that I wish uh had uh been a part of Annie and I's you know premarital uh stuff because it would have saved the first seven years of pain.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, you know, uh even Celeste and I, we did premarital, but it wasn't as robust as as Simbus, and so I've taken people through lots of Simbus conversations. I'm actively taking a few people through it now. Um and it's it's always powerful to see because they're they're do these these um these they they answer these questionnaires, which is a tool that they use to kind of give answers. They compare them to each other, and then they're able as a facilitator, you're able to walk people through and as they dialogue to each other and talk about how they're gonna do their life and talk about the big things like intimacy, which is sex and the relationship together, their money, how they're gonna handle family, you know, whose roles are what, etc. And so there's lots of different things that are a piece of that. Shout out to the doctors, uh the doctors that made it, yeah, uh, which is a pretty powerful thing. But yeah, um, let it be a tool and bless your life. And we we'll take people through it that are even already married so they can see what that is. There's also a different version for that too. So that's some of the stuff that we would suggest to people that they would do that and let it be a blessing to them. But I think part of Josh's thing was uh there were a lot of people living together. Yeah, a lot of people doing a lot of stuff, which is not how the biblical example we we talked about with people now. I've we've had lots of marriage, we've done lots of marriages for people who had been living together, had kids together, everything else. But you know, um, even going to the JP is not the same thing as having a relationship or having a commitment before God as a marriage because the marriage is not done by the government, a marriage is done before God. Yeah, you know, the other one is just like a tax form.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

This one is actually a commitment before God. So you know, that's how we always talk about it with people, is that you know, that's what really counts. And when we were in um in Europe, we didn't do the legal side, they went to the Justice Peace for that. We did a spiritual, the spiritual ceremony, and that's the one that we saw as really counting. So we encourage people to go in and do those things. And I think in his case, he was trying to say, Hey, you've been living this way, get it right before God.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

And that's an awesome way to be able to just help bring pe help make it easy for people to come into alignment, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

Absolutely. J. But this weekend we were talking with some friends um that are that live in Turkey, and we got a chance to eat some amazing Mexican food with them. Yeah, it was great. Talking about a bunch of our friends that we have across the stands, some of those that like you got a chance to grow up with, kind of knowing those guys, all these boys that live in Tajikistan, yeah, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, like everywhere like that.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

But yeah, it's been cool.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

Which is pretty bizarre to know people that live in those places because most people don't know that those places exist. No, in America, we're very we're not knowledgeable in our in our geography as Americans. It's kind of notorious how bad we are. To our defense, a little bit of a Twitter offense. Um, we are a pretty big country, and so each state kind of is its own country in the way that it functions, as far as our states versus our country, etc. And so there is a little bit of a caveat that way because it's like, listen, we have a lot of states to remember, you know what I mean? 50 is a lot, so it's not really a way out though. I mean, you should know what's going on in the world. But a great report we see here that um in Uzbekistan there are reports of lots of people having dreams of Jesus, which we've seen common across that part of the world. Um, and many of them are becoming Christian. Jamie, you've seen this example, you've heard of the story on a move in Egypt.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Yeah, it's been it's been such a common thing, especially for people of the Islamic faith. The reason why is because there's like a spiritual prompting or a bunch of these questions that they have about this guy called Jesus, because they read about him in the Quran as a prophet or somebody that told of Allah or was like uh essentially a continuation of the Muslim prophets that stem from like Moses and Abraham and people like that. They differ. Yeah. There's a continuous lineage of prophets that fall in line proclaiming Allah until he comes back upon the day of judgment, and of which everybody will finally meet their end, either in hell or heaven, or Jannah as they call it. Um, but it's it's so interesting how for a lot of these places where there really aren't that many missionaries, especially within that part of the world, that even there's only really like a handful of AG missionaries over there, and uh not even including like um like Coptic or Catholic or like all of these other denominations or other sects of Christianity that are over there as well. There's basically no churches in that region of the world. So it's it's awesome to see that there are people that are dreaming of this and are really being confronted with this figure that they've only read about before, but they really experience in a divine and supernatural way that they don't know how to explain. There's been a bunch of people that we've known in Egypt that we've heard of in Saudi through people in our Lived Dead organization as well that have also talked about how people that they've spoken to or people that have been baptized within their organization have also had this exact same thing happen. And I think it's just it also echoes what we've seen in Iran over the last few months and things like that, where a bunch of these believers are having those encounters in dreams that they just can't explain. Um, and it's incredible. I think the Lord is truly using that as a medium to get through to people in to experience his presence in a way that they otherwise wouldn't be able to because everybody just tells them that they're wrong. But when they feel that level of conviction and feel that level of peace within their spirit, there's something that they are that they fervently cannot deny that otherwise everybody would just tell them is bogus. So I I think it's awesome that that continues to happen and it's just reaffirmation of the truth that we continue to see be revealed.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

Yeah, powerful. And you know, we're praying for the people of Uzbekistan that they would be blessed and that they would know God and that the revelation of Jesus Christ would come to them and that they each would have an opportunity to respond to him. Man, what a blessing. What a blessing. One of the things that's been heartbreaking, especially for us in the Southwest, is the recent accusations against Cesar Chavez, which was a very um uh uh famous um political figure within the um Hispanic farm workers, especially out of California and Arizona and kind of the Southwest area. Um he was someone who kind of gave a voice to the workers. They were kind of notoriously treated poorly, but needed a job. So people came from from Mexico and Central America to come and farm and to work in the fields and all this. This is obviously way before we had all the tools and the tricks and the equipment we have nowadays, but even now there's still a lot of things are done by hand. And so these we workers were doing that, and they they essentially were there was kind of like abuse and no, you know, no uh way to voice. So he kind of rallied people together to change some of the rules and the laws, which gave it opportunity for these guys to to really lift up and to kind of come out of poverty and to make another opportunity for their family. And so he's been a famous figure around the Southwest, specifically here. Um we have you know roads named after him. There's statues of him up. There's California, they're all over the place, especially like through the Central Valley and in the Southern Valley, and in those kind of places, and you're just like, wow, this guy's like known. He's like kind of a a you know, like a Martin Luther King Jr. kind of figure, and somewhat paralleling Martin Luther King Jr., a lot of accusations about him being not faithful to his wife and kind of being you know, someone who slept around that's accusation that's there. Um, in his story, differently, Cesar Chavez accusations are coming again with him against with women that were not of age. So, you know, talking about minors and dealing with that. Obviously, in the era that we're in right now, this is a hot button topic. People, man, they are covering up the statues, they're covering up big murals of his face, they're changing temporarily changing names, the streets and stuff. You guys seen some of the stuff happen? Yeah. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Yeah, you know, I'm I'm still trying to figure out where I fall on fall on all this stuff because while uh well, yes, the the things that they did, you know, all of the people who had some sort of statue did they were all people, they were all broken in some way, they all did something, you know, whether we know about it or not. Um but to to cover it up, uh, to cover up our history to to to knock it down, I don't know that I necessarily agree with that. I don't I definitely don't support uh what uh you know, obviously the accusations and all those things, however, but it doesn't change the history. And and I think that uh when when push comes to shove, remembering the history is the more important part because if we if we start um uh demolishing our history, then it gets rewritten and the future is then writable.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Yeah, and that it's a dangerous thing for that for that approach for sure. Obviously, we we do not condone in any way any of the things he's accused of doing. Um, but it is it's hard because he's gone, he's dead, obviously. Um and it's hard because accusations coming way after the fact, and so it's you know, there's no court, there's no this, there's no that, it's just public opinion. Yeah, and everybody in the court of public opinion, it's you gotta prove your way out.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:49

So in our country, you are innocent until proven guilty. Some other countries around the world, it's the opposite. You're guilty until proven innocent. You have to prove yourself the other way since once accusation is made against you, and that's how it's gonna work in this case, obviously. And so, you know, I think California right away was trying to call called Cesar Chavez Chavez Day Farm Workers' Day or something else, which is fine. But it was just it it is, I mean, obviously they won't write him out of the story, but he will no longer be a highlight to what's going on there. And I understand where you're coming from because you know, these people, they're broken people, they're messed up, they're in their day, they're in their time. And so, um, yeah, it's it's it's not good with the way that we see things now. Um, but yeah, just heartbreaking. Yeah, so crazy. Jim, you had a chance to see this stuff?

SPEAKER_02 27:30

Yeah, I saw like even uh Cesar Chavez middle school or high school, one of the two. They yeah, essentially like covered up the statue the day it came out. It just like it almost looked like a body bag of sorts, but I think it was just black trash bags, mat. Yeah, it was like a mat or something. It was like pretty heavy duty. But um, yeah, I mean it's crazy. I I do agree with Angus on this, though, in that I think right now, especially in America, we're essentially in a time period where everybody is examining history through a different lens because a lot of our generation is questioning what we read in these textbooks and what we're taught through the schooling system. Right. Because now there's a lot more evidence that a lot of other things have been happening, like behind the scenes, and essentially history is almost being rewritten, like to what he's saying. Um, but I do agree that I think to kind of just cover it up and instantly like say that he's guilty within this way, um, until it's like verifiably true that he is, is kind of disqualifying what he did. Whether or not it was just for Mexican Americans and he actually like didn't do it just for like Mexican immigrants or people like that, and like what other people are trying to say about like party affiliations, things like that. He still did do something great for civil rights and helped advance it in that way. Um, and I mean, if you want to point fingers, we can start looking at a lot of like what different presidents have been a part of in terms of associations, things like that. So why don't we just rip all of our monuments down and things like that? Right. Um for that reason. 100%. And I think uh, especially as America, we don't even really have that deep of a history. You think about Europe or something. Yeah, you think about Europe, or even like a statue of like Napoleon or something like that, is still gonna be held up, even though, like, yeah, the dude had a bunch of terrible war crimes. Or like you go to somewhere in I don't know, like in Russia, like it, or I don't I don't know. You go to a bunch of places in Europe, and there's gonna be a lot of like different statues, different commemorations to groups or political parties that nowadays we do not agree with at all.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

Yeah, because then no one came to power playing tiddly wings. No, right now they so they had a bigger battery, b bigger, battery you know, army they took over with big army diplomacy, yeah. 100%. Much like some countries, maybe the one we belong to are doing today. Yeah, very true, very true. So, yeah, you're right. It's it's very hard because we're doing this retroactive thing. And I understand from our perspective that you don't want to lift them up as a hero, but there's a big difference between that and recognizing what what their what their mark was. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

And I I think like within America, we're way too judgmental of people within that that sense because like it's almost like the political climate is demanding, well, they're demanding Christ in some way, but they're looking for that in a different form. They're like, oh yeah, well, he did like this, and like it'll be the tiniest blemish ever on like their record, and then instantly it disqualifies them from having any sort of political opinion or any sort of opinion on morality or telling anybody what they can or cannot do. So I I don't know. I think as an like as a country, we need to shift that attitude, but it's gonna be a very gradual process because right now there's a lot of disdain and a lot of like bitterness within the hearts of Americans for sure, and and no trust with anybody of any kind of power, not at all and for good reason because of everything.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

You know, Anthony Wiener's laptop coming out, the FC files coming out, all the mess that we're just about to get into and talk about right now. I was trying to lead with some really good, encouraging stuff about Jesus at work in the world, and now we we should have to talk about some other not so great things, but I still see it as Jesus being at work in the world because he is, to your point, bringing about illumination to some of this stuff that's terrible. Yeah. Terrible, terrible. Um, Epstein Files, bum, bum, bum, they continue. And so some of the things that's been happening here is, man, it's like surreal. It's like what you'd hear off the X-Files or some other weird thing. Um, they there's a lot of stories that are now being corroborated with the concept that came from Juliet Bryant. She's someone who was in the Epstein Files as someone who was on the island and was interacting with him and definitely had kind of one-on-one time with him. And she said point blank that she saw in front of her face, she saw Jeffree Epstein change into what she viewed as a reptilian-style figure. Which is bizarre to say. But it's interesting because it wasn't just her. Um we've had a chance to listen to Robbie Williams, who's a UK singer, real real popular. He was talking about a girl he was sleeping with, and he saw her do that. I know that we talked about Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins. He talked about he was with someone who's a famous kind of uh TV personality who had the same experience with her, kind of flashing what compared to him, Reptilian. Britney Spears said something about a guy that she was connected to had the same story. So it's really weird how this is kind of a constant here. What should you guys take away? I guess what you think, man.

SPEAKER_00 32:14

Well, so it's it's one of those things that on the surface, you're like, ah, that's just crazy. But from from the the Pentecostal perspective, you know, we we were just uh a couple years ago we went to the the Navajo reservation and we were doing some work, and one of the girls uh while we were doing kids church, uh, we asked if if I could pray, you know, if we could pray for anything, and nobody wanted prayer. But afterwards, when we were doing the kids' worksheet, this little girl she came up and she just she tugged on my shirt and she said, Can you pray for me? I said, Absolutely, for what? And she said, There's a skinwalker that's been uh that's been terrorizing my family. And the girl next to her said, We don't talk about that, you're not supposed to ask for help with that. And so, you know, I I spoke to her and and ministered to her about it, and we prayed and all of that stuff. So whether it's a reptilian or something else, yeah, what what we know isn't that there is spir spiritual power that can make that can allow people to shape shift, you know, and they can turn into different things. It's uh it's recorded throughout history, you know, and we look at it as ah it's just magic, it's just stories or whatever, but it's very real. Uh you ask any native who lives on the on the reservation, and they'll tell you. Um, and but the the thing about it with with reptilians, with all these stuff, that that stuff from what I understand only comes through incredible sacrifices to uh to Satan and and um it takes a lot to be able to be one of those that that shift.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Yeah, from my perspective and everything I've seen from theologians as well, and even our interaction with people who really had demonic um things happening in their life is that they would flash this other thing. So it's not that the person themselves necessarily was quote reptilian or whatever that is, as like a race, but instead that it's actually a flash of something spiritual, it's actually flash of the demonic, it's actually flash of like the motivation behind it. So it's like it's like an unveiling in that moment of intimacy because they're involved involved in sexuality, it's like a flash of this other thing. And so a person that's not there, which are all these other famous people, they're like, Nope, I'm out, you know what I mean? Which means to your point that there is some obviously the person that that they're having that that sexual encounter with, they are obviously doing stuff that is that is inviting spiritual, you know, spirits, demons into themselves to be able to flash in that way. So very interesting. Jamin, you've seen some of these stories. What's your take on it?

SPEAKER_02 34:44

We think man, I it it's definitely all real. I I know it is because like we think about like to what Angus's point was about the Navajo Nation, I just saw a video about this the other day in a part of Africa. There were people that recorded this, I think pre-AI. So this was like 2016 or something like that. There's a video of a bird that's flying in the street, and then this bird comes close to the ground and it like transfigures into like a person, and the person like hits the floor like a thud, but you can hear like a weird noise, it's almost like indescribable, it's like a big flap, and then the person like transforms, but just like you see it on frame. It's very bizarre. Wow, but it's very kind of similar to what you would you would see within um within scripture about like transfigurations of spiritual beings, and especially we think about like Lucifer in the form that he tempted Adam and Eve in was said to be a serpent. What that looks like, whether or not it is actually like it an actual snake that was slithering on the ground or was walking in some way, that's very similar to the description that we would hear from like what a reptile would be. Or seraphim, exactly. We see heavenly, which some people parallel to etc. Exactly. So I think within some way, these people, whether or not they're human beings given spiritual power or actual spiritual beings taking a human form, are definitely connected within that demonic sense. Um, there was also something, I I'm pretty sure you saw this as well, that was related to a government file talking about how they went in and constructed a uh, I think it was a it's like an underground tunnel that spanned for miles. It was supposed to be about like some project that they had on file and then like uh supposedly got like, I don't know, thrown away or whatever. But they think that this is like supposed to be in connection to like some underground society where these reptilians go. And we see that I whether or not that's true is here nor there, but it would certainly it would certainly make sense within that regard. So to discount the fact that reptilian people would actually would actually exist is very, I would think it's just ignorant of what we've seen throughout history. We understand that within some civilization, you read mythology, um, ancient Egypt, we understand their divination of things like cats and things like bulls, very reminiscent of Canaanites and their worship of stuff like ball. In Asianic cultures, they worship things like dragons.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Right.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

That's a serpent right there, also a reptile in some sense. We read that in um Revelation uh they come back as a dragon, or Lucifer within that sense, is shown as a dragon, yeah, or the incarnation of evil itself. So it's I mean, this is all very semblant of things that we read. And I I think the Western world is really just starting to understand the gravity of not only the truth of the interwovenness of the physical of the physical and um and spiritual world, but it's also being shown in real time through all these testimonies, but people are writing it off because of inventions like AI or because of inventions like Photoshop and things like that. So I uh there it's almost being used as a distraction from what the truth has really been this whole time.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

I agree. I think it is one of those things that is a distraction for sure, and I think because it's um something to you get both to your point that we know we would very much be like, that's crazy, man. But forget her that, you know. But I think from our my perspective, it's definitely I I'm not there as far as like a race of people or anything like that, though that could be a thing because the the you know, obviously we see the concept with giants and other stuff we've been talking about, how historically we see that in scripture and things like that. But I definitely could see where there would be the spiritual side of that where it's these spiritual entities have been cast down to here. So we're talking about demonic things um that are taking a hold of a person and have control over them, and they're being essentially revealed in those moments, and that's a really interesting thing. Um, if it goes all the way to that, obviously I've read a bunch of things about that as well. They're essentially, you know, have these underground societies or this or that or the other thing. Uh, you know, I I don't see them as like peeling their head back and being an actual lizard, but I do think that there's a spiritual side to it that is driving some of these people and giving them favor and elevating them to places of power or or money. But I could see where there could be the possibility of of both. So crazy stuff um along the side of spiritual things. Uh recent CIA documents have brought out this kind of concept of remote viewing. Obviously, that's been something we've seen in the cinema for a long time, and people that are like, you know, they they they're saying that they're some kind of you know clairvoyant, they have understanding, they're a mystic, that they have this concept where they can go and they can, you know, be someone who understands things beyond into the spirit realm. Obviously, we would just say, oh yeah, they're aligned with the spirit realm on the evil side.

SPEAKER_03 39:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

But very interesting because the CIA started paying these people to what they would call remote view in, which is like go to some place, you know, that's a location you're here physically, but that you can somehow astral project or whatever it is to this other place spiritually. And they were seeing a lot of things. You guys saw some of those videos of what they're talking about. Angus, what do you see from that video we saw?

SPEAKER_00 39:44

Uh well, so the this whole idea of remote viewing is uh, you know, people can leave their body and go to any location and they can describe with with immense detail and draw and all of these kinds of things. Um, and again, on it sounds wacky and and it sounds very stranger things, and you know, which is where that's why we have so much what we hear predictive programming. You know, it we see it in the media so much that now when things like this come out, it's like I maybe it's real, maybe it's not. Right, yeah. But um, but we again being in near this, we know it is a spiritual force. We know that people do astral project, um, and that you know, while while we're sleeping, there are people who are going out on assignment, um, you know, to go and mess with Christians and others and and whatnot. And so that's why it's very important that we stay prayed up and we pray over our families. But um knowing that uh is going on on the street, I don't see why the CIA wouldn't get involved in some of that.

SPEAKER_01 40:47

To get their hands and all the sorts of weird stuff, absolutely. I will say, you know, just to be very clear, anything that's not of Jesus Christ is darkness. And let's just be very clear about that. So we see what we're talking about is people who are connected dark spiritually, so they're connected to demons. They have some kind of connection that's allowing them by the power of worshiping spiritually, they're have given this power to see things obviously outside of themselves, places that spiritually spirits can go, obviously not held back by physical things like walls and concrete, etc. And that was some of the things they're reporting is that oh, I I'm seeing, I'm going to this place, I'm going through a file cabinet, I can read you a document. And people were freaking out because they're like, There's no way you can get through these layers of security. You don't one know where it's at, two, you know, how could you know? And so they were messing with things that obviously was having results in the physical world, though they spiritually were way, way far away from it. So that's the scary part with that. Is that whenever the CAA starts to care is whenever the the the spiritual and the the physical connect, and then they're like, Wait, wait, wait, we need a piece of this. Yeah, yeah. So try to connect it and feel it. Jamie, you've seen some of this remote viewing stuff. What do you think?

SPEAKER_02 41:50

Yeah, 100%. I think uh, I mean, astral projection is definitely a real thing. You can uh in the books of Solomon that he that he writes about, even in Ecclesiastes, there's a reference to a silver cord of life. What that's believed to be within a spiritual sense is when they do remote view, it it's essentially their soul going outside of their body to find a different physical host in some sense. But the silver cord of life is what ties you physically with your actual body because you are one as a person. So if you lose one, you're dead. So within that sense, um, and this also comes from testimony about like um churches, uh priests and pastors that understood this and understood people like Anton LeVay were would talk about things like this and why they would astral project whenever they were going out on mission or doing things like that. Who later it said that he Well, yeah, that he died through astral projection is is the testimony because whenever you astral project, you're essentially giving up your body and your free reign to just be killed within that sense, like in a spiritual manner. They're like, if they get you before the before you get back to your body, you're you're done, you're just out there. Um, so within that sense, there's like some understanding of what like ghosts or spirits could be that we see like tied to mythology. Um, but it also makes you think about uh like canon events that happen within uh other religions. Like we understand, according to Islam, the Prophet Muhammad was shown an image or given like a vision of what would happen to Jerusalem in the land that was supposedly given to those that would follow Allah, uh that where he was taken supposedly by the abr by the angel Gabriel, like through this whole journey. Through their story, exactly. But I mean, from a Christian narrative, that very much could be something like astral projection, or could be to where he was given or just taken within like a physical sense and drawn away from his body to something outside of himself, but by a force of darkness, yeah, that it would be loose for himself to do something like that. Um, so it really makes you think, and it's interesting how not a lot of people really talk about this, especially within the church community, because I think it is important to understand that Old Testament things talk about this. And if Solomon, the man who we attribute to be the wisest human to ever exist, but apart from Christ. Because obviously. Yeah, but I mean a man of two natures and one is God, it's kind of impossible to beat that. But as far as like good point. Yeah. As far as purely human, then yeah. Like it if he understood this and he was drawing power from that within some sense, then this is a very real reality that people are still practicing today.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

And that's part of the dialogue that we talk about so often with Solomon is that he was given this wisdom. He leaned on it for a season. He was very much in a right standing with God and doing exactly what God said is do not uh you know, do not depart from me. He uses this wisdom, starts doing like worshiping all these other gods because he can have physical power on earth and start to do these other things. So that's why a lot of people tie that. That's what's connected to a lot of secret sci societies today. We talk about Freemasons, we talk about all these people that are most of them are tied somehow back to uh this, you know, cabalism, this this weird mystic Judaism and all this other stuff that just stems to most of it tied to uh this dark season zone of life, which makes me not excited at all about any of it. So yeah, the Lord help us, man, as we start to understand this stuff. And I'll say this man, don't it don't open the door in your life to anything like this because this is something that's evil spiritually. People might be like, oh, I want to do be able to do this. This is exciting, adventurous. No, there's a real cost in your life because you're opening yourself up to dark things and friends. There is no version of it where they want anything good for you, they want to destroy your life. So do not open yourself up to anything dark spiritually, open yourself up only to Christ and the Spirit of God, which only wants good things for you.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

I would just add to that, so many people feel powerless in their situations, powerless to do anything about it. Um and so when you're seeking power, um, the enemy will be right there. But understand that God's power is far greater and it it it's it doesn't demand uh something in return. It's not going to take something from you uh to get that control and power. I mean so um so when you are in a powerless situation, go to the right power.

SPEAKER_01 45:59

Amen. Go to the Lord. Amen. That's right. One of the other C's that we talk about here is creativity and talking about that. Uh in recent uh creet uh the creative kind of realm of all the tech stuff, uh, one of the announcements is that meta, that's slash Facebook, so that's Zuckerberg and his his group, um, they are shutting down the metaverse, which they had invested $80 billion with a B, $80 billion into it. If you guys remember back to 2020 and in the whole pandemic realm when everybody was living online and through their computer, uh man, they just dumped tons of money in the metaverse. Everybody was buying, you know, digital representations of themselves and you know, real estate, all the sandbox and all this stuff. We talked about it, man, because it was like we thought this thing was coming online, like this is gonna be the new thing where people are like they're doing digital church, like it was a whole whole wave. What do you guys think? 80 billion, Javen. What do you think, man?

SPEAKER_02 46:50

I mean, it's kind of wild, but it it's not that surprising. Like within the last three years, you realistically haven't heard anything about the metaverse. Like when it first came out as a concept, everybody was like, Oh my gosh, this is like the first generation of the Oasis that we read in something like Ready Player One. Exactly. And we gotta get our hands on like real estate, or we gotta buy like avatar customizations, things like that. Like people were really amped about it. And spending big money, hundreds of thousands. Yeah, exactly. And then everybody was like, Wait, this only really values as much as like we attribute it to value. And then everybody was like, I'm not really fully bought into this, and then everybody just kind of pulled out, and then they were just left stranded. It was sort of like what happened with NFTs in 2020 and 21, where everybody was like, dude, these are the wave, like these are gonna hold so much value, right? And then a bunch of them were just pump and dump schemes, much like crypto coins now. But uh, yeah, it's it's really funny that people are slowly realizing that anything that takes like a digital form is only as valuable as people say it is. And it's like whenever you try to build up a whole new form of currency, it takes a lot longer than like a hype train started by some tech billionaire to get it going.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

So I didn't, yeah. I didn't quite ever, I mean, obviously I understood the concept, I just couldn't get behind. Um, I understand the idea of crypto, like there's a coin, there's tokenization, I understand like those things, I understand blockchain and the and the kind of the ways that they track who owns what, but I man, NFTs always seem so bizarrely overpriced to me. People were spending $100,000 for a board ape or a cyberpunk or some jazz. And uh though, I mean I could understand it to your point if it did become the Oasis, because then like that's an outfit. Like that's that's a fit, that's a thing, that's a power when you live there. Like that would be cool, but we were so far away from that. I'm surprised they didn't, they I mean, this is a huge investment. I think about how much money you know, people use it as a meme on the internet because um uh you know, anything that had like Grand Theft Auto 6 is is a big title. It's supposed to be coming out in the gaming world and it's been delayed and delayed and keeps getting pushed back. And there's you know, there's people betting in on poly market whether or not it's coming out this year or not there or it like or major events happening before this other game comes out. Like it's it's crazy. But I think about how much money they invest in in a title like that, so Activision or or whoever, whoever's uh Rockstar or whatever's whoever's doing it, um, or these big titles like Call of Duty, Activision, these are the guys that are doing this stuff. I'm surprised that they don't use use this as like a kind of a digital landscape to to interact with the the games and other things, but they didn't lean that direction. So surprised that they'd shut it down. I don't know. That's wow, that's all interesting things.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

A lot to just cut and run.

SPEAKER_01 49:18

It's a couple dollars, man. A couple bucks, so pretty crazy. In that news with AI and kind of the the the advancement of AI so rapidly growing. Uh, what we recently saw was OpenAI kind of got adopted by the US government, kind of replacing uh Anthropic and other people they were using because they wouldn't give them full access to some things. They didn't really like their use of it in the military sense. Open AI obviously didn't care, so they're leaning into it the other direction. Uh, but they also were selling off pieces of their company to Amazon and other or use of it to different pieces of people. So you have people who've bought AI smaller AI models now buying into bigger AI models, so it's like, and then bigger AI models also buying smaller AI models. So you have like kind of compounded AI that's working together. It's a very interesting world that we live in. What do you what do you think about that, Angus?

SPEAKER_00 50:07

I'm gonna pretend to understand it. Sure, sure. Um deep breath, deep breath. No, I mean it there's there's just so much to it. It's it's such a um such a vast topic. Um, but uh I don't like the idea of AI getting smarter and smarter and smarter.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

Yeah, it's a little it's a little terrifying from our perspective, um, especially with the cost that it's gonna be in in jobs and some other things we'll talk about. Jay, what do you think, man? AI on AI.

SPEAKER_02 50:37

I mean, I feel like at some point it was it was gonna end up doing this. Like we saw that it's like rebelling against its programmers and things like that. It's uh uh almost acting like a human in some sense, but in part that's what it's been programmed to do. So if it's just programmed to be more efficient, then of course it's gonna team up with other AIs or do whatever to become as efficient as possible. So it this might get very out of hand very quickly, depending on how well regulated a bunch of this stuff is and whether or not there really are death keys to all these servers and stuff like that. But I I don't know, dude.

SPEAKER_01 51:08

All we can do is pray. So yeah, you were talking about metaverse becoming um like we were talking about already player one with some of those pieces. One of the interesting things that I saw was that they one of the AI agents that someone created, they tried to they essentially established the AI agent to create business so that they could earn money because and then they kind of programmed that they wanted to get as much money as possible, like they wanted to be rich. And so the AI agent somehow it it figured out a way to get hold of credit so that it could actually go on and buy crypto so it could mine crypto to become rich. It's one of the reports. I'm like, oh great. Now the AI wants to be rich. That's not what we need, you know what I mean? No, because at what point, even if it's your AI agent, how do you get your money from them? That's true.

SPEAKER_02 51:52

Yeah, and at what point, like it does the stuff that your AI does, like let's say it like tries to extort somebody or something like that. Yeah, crazy. Like it gets data it's not supposed to, and then it's like, hey, if you don't give me like $400,000 or whatever, then like I'm gonna release this information online. Like, at what point are you personally held responsible for that?

SPEAKER_01 52:10

How can you prove it's not you?

SPEAKER_02 52:10

Well, that's what I mean. It's your agent. That's what I mean. Well, I just think it's all pretty crazy, dude.

SPEAKER_01 52:14

It's all like yeah, and I think there are to some remember Jeremy was talking about this when Jeremy was on with us. He was talking about how he believes that a lot of people are just doing things cloaked as AI, so they're like saying it's their agent, but it's really them that's doing the coding that's pushing in this direction. I think there's a piece of that that's really happening for sure.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

I mean, I don't know though, because like even um they had Claude come in for Google, they were working on a problem for like six months. They had Claude come in, it finished in like five minutes. Yeah, it's a different set of things. Well, that's what I mean. It's like if it if you code something to be so efficient and just draw info from all the time, it's just gonna mimic whatever it gets the most source information from. And if it's reading stuff like primarily from Reddit and Twitter, of course it's gonna go crypto minor, of course it's gonna like yeah, so but I mean sell online courses, yeah. So people are like, why is it acting like me, or why is it acting like like very strange people? It's because that's who's predominantly feeding information to AI. So I yeah, I don't know. We there needs to be some better sense of regulation and law about AI is gonna get crazy in the next five years. Whoever becomes an AI lawyer, but not not like an actual artificial intelligence becoming a lawyer, but like whoever is a lawyer dealing with AI. A human lawyer dealing with AI is gonna have their hands full over the next few years. So it's gonna be so crazy.

SPEAKER_01 53:25

Yeah, it's gonna be so crazy. Oh man. Uh, you know, shifting gears a little bit to talk about not AI, but actually people. Um, one of the things that we talk about creatively is that how people want to become better and get better at what you're doing. Um, we saw a post that was put out, it's talking about how this is the one, the top one percent of people can do these things. And it's some physical feats, which so I'll run them by you guys and see where you guys think you go and how where I think I am too. The first one is can you type a hundred words a minute? No flying. Nope. 100 words a minute, JVO?

SPEAKER_02 53:56

I can touch 100 words a minute consistently. No, I could I could probably max out of like 93. That's pretty good. It's it's uh I don't know. I know some people can go crazy fast, like 200, but yeah, it's just they're but or is it it does it make any sense?

SPEAKER_01 54:11

Are they just doing keystrokes? No, no, no. Like they're they're really good at it.

SPEAKER_02 54:14

It's just the way that their hand-eye coordination is like on another level, like they can just they it's weird because I think it's essentially as fast as your mind works, but you have to like turn off your mind, turn off yeah, your hands in order to type. But uh, it's obviously different, like typing whenever you see text on a screen that you're supposed to mimic, and then whenever you're like actually trying to generate ideas and then put it on paper. But either way, to type over a hundred words per minute is like bizarre.

SPEAKER_00 54:37

My aunt's a court reporter, and to watch her type is court reports. Wait, it's all shorthand too. It's different. Yeah, yeah. I can't tell you how many times I tried to get her to type papers for me as a kid. I was like, NT 20 bucks, you'll be done in five minutes. Come on. That's a quick twit, that's a quick uh to her credit. She never did.

SPEAKER_01 54:56

Uh man, shout out to our friend Barb who works with us here. She's our admin for Cornerstone, but man, she types like that. She was a legal secretary for a year. She's so fast and just so accurate. She doesn't look ever, she's like just like, dude, just hacking the planet. Yeah, very impressed, man. I'm like, wow, zero cool. There she is.

SPEAKER_00 55:14

Yeah, you know, she's doing it. Acid bird. It's a little intimidating that she can be writing whatever she's writing and still.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

Oh, she'll talk to me and be like type, like typing something else, talking to me. I'm like, what's going on right now? So impressive, man. Very impressive. I don't know. Um, I will say, like, I'm so I think even the height of like height is maybe in the 70s, maybe. And I write I type a lot. Like, I'm currently in a PhD program. I'm writing papers all the time, which did the 30 pages the other day. And I'm like, dude, I have to be like, and I I I'm thank God for autocorrect because this shit's getting me. I'll get an E and an I backwards or whatever. And I'm I'm I'm a long ways from like hunting packing. Like I and I was notorious. We learned it in my era. This is back in the 1900s, JV. Many, many moons ago. It was the cart wagon, then they introduced the keyboard. No, we obviously were on key, you know, we were on computers and stuff. It wasn't it wasn't like typewriters or stuff. But um, we man, we had the the she was like she I wasn't saying she wasn't like a Nazi, she was like really strict. Yeah, I don't want to call people a Nazi. She was really, really, very strict my freshman year, and she would be like, You were not allowed to look at your fingers, they would ding you. And I was like trying to get a 4.0, so I'm like, you know, you're trying to like, I'm like, that was so bad. I had that same teacher. I bet you did. I could visualize her in my head. She was probably a sweet person outside of that class, but she was so mean.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

I think as soon as she left where the keyboards were, she was probably because you're allowed to look at things then.

SPEAKER_01 56:41

Yeah, that's probably like, you know, gardening. She's probably very sweet, but yeah, no, in the class, dude, she was like, I was like, good gracious. Yeah. Yeah, that was a that was a hard one. Um, okay, 100 words a minute. Uh, a sub-six minute mile. What do you think, man? Could you get to a sub-six minute mile? You're fast, you're a runner.

SPEAKER_02 56:57

Uh I ran, I'm gonna say like a 6'14 when I was like a 4'11 7th grader. So I probably could run like around a five, maybe sub, but yeah, I haven't ran like that in a while.

SPEAKER_01 57:07

So yeah, I would say you're probably, I mean, easy five and a half, you could definitely do it. No problem.

SPEAKER_02 57:12

Like go, I mean, maybe not today because you gimped your knee out last week, but yeah, but I think running a sub-five for me would probably require like more training, but sub-six, though you but sub six is yeah, I I'd be fine, I think.

SPEAKER_01 57:22

Angus, you ever run a sub-six?

SPEAKER_00 57:24

Oh no. Same. I believe there's something in the Bible that says only the ri the wicked flee, but the righteous stand like a lion, something like that. There you go. So uh that's a life burst. That's a life burst.

SPEAKER_01 57:40

Oh my gosh. There you go. Oh, that's hilarious. Uh same. I think the fastest I was probably uh maybe 620 or something. Like I've never been fast. I could run for a lot long. I could run long, but never fast. Yeah. So these guys that like, you know, we have some friends that connected to doing ultras and stuff like that. And I'm like, man, what? And they just crank at a sub-six. They just run indefinitely. I'm like, I'm so impressed. It's not my way.

SPEAKER_00 58:05

The world would have to have really sharp teeth for me to get sub-six.

SPEAKER_01 58:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. What size of grizzly bear are you running from?

SPEAKER_03 58:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 58:13

100%. Well, shout out to you. So that's two, two for two. So if you if you're out there and you you're you're you're following along 100 words a minute, sub-six minute mile. The next one is can you stand on one leg for 60 seconds? What do you think? Balance on one foot.

SPEAKER_00 58:25

I might. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 58:26

Uh, you have pretty balance. I mean, you swim, you did a bunch of stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 58:29

I mean, well, I mean, we balance up here and the rafters and and all kinds of things. I've had to balance on a lot of things around here. So I think that's true. So I might be able to do that one. I'll have to say I'll have to check it out.

SPEAKER_02 58:41

This one I have no reference for. So I I could tell you yes, I could tell you no, and I wouldn't know the answer. So I just have to go and try it. I guess I'll probably try it after this. Should we run a slack line in the backyard over the pool and just like go for it?

SPEAKER_01 58:52

Well, not I mean, like uh just balancing on one, like all I have to do is like just hold it. But that's true. But I mean, you know, I feel like the on the ground's a little bit cheat. You know, I mean I think that's what's the reference. Yeah, it is what the reference is. I'm thinking more of like in a balanced situation. I grew up doing board sports, so balancing on something with one foot is not that, not that of a feat to me. I think I would do okay with this one. So I might be one for three. I might be able to be this one. Who knows? All right. The next one is doing 75 push-ups in a row. About two days. I know for sure I'd done it in the past. When I was doing CrossFit all the time, we we do this that kind of stuff as a warm-up. We'd end up doing like a hundred push-ups. But uh 75 today? Definitely not today. I'm guessing not as well for me. Javen, what do you think? You there, probably?

SPEAKER_02 59:34

No, I might cap out, I want to say like 60 in a row. I don't I don't think I could hit 75. I'll try it, but I don't know. I'll probably I'm probably tough doing quarters these days. I mean if I'm in a row, if I'm full extension like you're supposed to, yeah, probably not. If if it's like one of those military military things like where they you can just spam push-ups, probably. But it once again, it depends on how you weigh what 75 push-ups looks like. Yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:00

After this, we can see if Javen can do push-ups longer than I can stand on one leg.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:04

Oh, hey, I like that battle. That'd be a bonus clip on the story. I don't know. That'd be cool. I don't know if we'll get there, but that would be a pretty fun battle. Um, all right. The next one is eight hours of sleep consistently. Not consistently, not even close. I'm probably closer to four and a half, five is my consistently. I I would love to have more sleep, but it'd be a great thing. I fight insomnia forever, forever. So yeah. Javin, you do get that amount of sleep, but not consistently.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

No, mine's all mine's also staggered because of the way that I nap and stuff. It's so bad right now. I need to fix it, but that's a different problem for a different day.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:39

So you'll be up for like a day straight, and then you'll you'll we'll see you, you'll come home, or you'll crash out of your apartment, and you'll be like just not awake for a day.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:47

I mean, it's just so stupid because like if I get anything, I don't know when this happened because in high school, I used to be able to just like go like five hours consistently for like a whole week and then be okay. I'd just be able to like run and do the whole day normal. Whenever it came to college, I don't know what happened, but like if I get anything sub-seven, whenever I'm done for the day, I will be so tired by the time I get to my room. I will like unconsciously just go onto my bed and then I'll wake up like three hours later and I'm like, I I wanted to like go eat or like go to the gym, like when it was still open at that time, and I was like, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But well, I will say, you you obviously you're the producer for us, so that's working with your mind and working digitally. People don't really talk about how much that actually does take attacks on you.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:31

I mean, to some degree, it's it just depends on how like kind of what level of thinking that you're doing. I'm not doing any crazy math, I'm not doing like physics level work or stuff like that. For for engineers, I completely understand why it takes that much away from you. Or like uh people that study like medicine or people that are trying to become doctors, like that's a lot of memorization and stuff like that. For me, it's not it's not really that bad. I'm just working in like application of a bunch of whole things. So I I don't know when the thing started where if I get sub-7, I have to nap, but yeah, I I should probably just like drink more caffeine or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

But they say that people that are tall, they sleep a lot, so maybe getting taller. I'm done grown. Maybe you'd be six five, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:10

Maybe you're just getting old.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:11

Yeah, maybe, maybe I could be sub-20, already old. There you go. I could be. All right, next one on the list, uh swim one mile, no rest. Angus, you might have the advantage, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:21

Uh I did do that once, uh, but it sucked. Yeah, I've done it before too. And but I can't today, I don't think so. Today, I could not, for sure. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:31

But when I was in the pool all the time, when I was doing a lot of scuba, a lot of free diving, for sure I could, no problem. Yeah. But today, not so much. No.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:38

You know, I mean, we have a pool, but it's a play pool, it's not a laptop. No, believe me. Even when I was up north in, I guess almost like a year ago now, when we were at the the men camp, I was trying to swim in the lake. To the other side, dude. It was so bad. I think I had to stop at least like five times. The first the first time trying to go to that side, this is before I even came back. And then I just see Aiden just like just cruise past him with Aiden. I know. I was like, I was like, dude, like this is this is so bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:05

But I I definitely couldn't shout out to our homie Aiden Castillo. He's like he's ranked in state as a as a as a as a junior and a runner, too. As a runner as well. He's just very, very gifted. He's a good soccer player, he's a smart kid too. He's the topist class. I mean, he's just that guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:19

I do want to point out though, I beat him once when he was in third grade.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:22

Oh, all the way back to third. As a grown man. I don't know how old. Hold on to that. Hold on to that. Yeah, hold on to that wood. Dude, I beat you once.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:29

Yeah, that's right. It's like swimming against Michael Thoughts.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:32

I know. Now I look him in the face, I'm like, dude, he's he's a grown man, you know what I mean? I've always you know known him grown up, but yeah, he's he's a good guy. Yeah, he's uh he's got that good tenacity, good work ethic from his folks, and you know, he's got it down inside of him, man. He's he goes and gets it.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:45

He does.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:46

I love that. All right, the next one is walking 20,000 steps consistently without being tired. What do you think? Consistently, or just like in like in mind, they're saying more consist it's more like about the consistency. I think I think I could. Because 20K, I've definitely done 20k. We think about big days at amusement parks and stuff like that. I I on average would work or walk somewhere between five and ten miles a day when I lived in big cities, when we lived in Paris or we lived in Alexandria and Cairo. Because you just walk a lot because it was just easier to walk than to try to get a ride or try to catch a metro or whatever's going on. So you just do the steps, man, no big deal. Yeah, but yeah, it's been a long time since that for sure. So I don't know, 20K, that's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:25

It sounds kind of like Thespian Festival, uh, which is uh it's just a two-day event at the convention center and you walk all over the place. And so I mean, I'd I'd say probably in that weekend it'd be pretty easy to get that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

For sure. I don't know why, man. Whatever you said thesbian festival, I immediately flash to this guy who goes berries and cream. That's such an old meme. What is that? It's like an ad for something. I think it was they made like a candy or something, they made it berries and cream flavor. And he's dressed up like is it sixty, like like as a you know, a jester something like berries and cream, berries. Just immediately thought of that. I don't know why. That's really funny. That's not a shade on you. Obviously, our kids are desbians and all that stuff, but it's hilarious. That's hilarious. Yeah, it's a lot. So if you're out there walking 20k steps a day, shout out to you. Uh read 30 books in a year. That's a lot of books.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:16

That is a lot of books.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:17

You know, I read a lot. Um a lot of it for coursework, and then we read, I like to read on top of that, but I I don't think I'm there. I don't think I'm at 30. I'm probably closer to 20 or 15 to 20. Um, I've obviously we have a couple a couple books per course, and I'm taking multiple courses a year. Uh but outside of that, obviously Bible reading all the time. I don't really quite count that. But I feel like those things, man, it's a lot. That's a lot. Um our youngest Amelia, she's kind of connected into the reading world of YouTube, which is not a bad thing for her to be connected to. Big fan of that. And uh she's talking about uh uh it's Hayley Fan. Hayley Fan, yeah. She she's like a she's obviously an author and big in the in the YouTube book reading space. She's married to Ryan Tri. Treyhan. He's like a they're both uh of faith, Christian people. Uh Ryan came to faith because of Haley, actually, which is pretty cool. But he talks about you know he's very popular, he's very pop uh popular YouTuber. I think he's like 17 million subs or something. Oh, something crazy like that. Huge number, but really, really cool. So she's following along with her. It'd be interesting with somebody like her see how many books she reads a year. I mean, she's a ton of books. But I mean, that's her job in some regards. Yeah, exactly. It's a lot different. There's a lot of like kind of women in that space that are a long time. That's true. Her age group that are kind of doing that. Yeah, 100%. Which is pretty cool. I mean, man, I don't know how how what do you think, Angus? Where are you at?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:32

Uh no, I'm definitely not there. I'm I'm just now rediscovering a love for for reading um because it was uh it was not not a good thing in my house necessarily. So I mean I I had to read do uh lots of extra stuff uh as far as reading goes, and so I learned to really not like it. You do a lot of audiobooks, yeah. And so now so now I'm getting more into the audiobook space and I really like that. So uh what I found works best for me just because my mind wanders. So if a physical book uh is really hard for me to read. So um so I like to do mine mainly audio.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:08

And if I really want to absorb it, I'll do physical and audio.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:11

Man, and I I love paper books. Uh Javen can tell you, when we lived in Paris, I gave all of our my paper books, my whole library had multiple bookshelves, double face, like all the way packed, gave them to some friends. And so those most of those books still are live in France. Uh so past that time, mostly I bought digital. Now I will buy a paper book because I do like to physically take notes in them a lot better, or sometimes have the resource to be able to hand to somebody if I'm like, this is a great book, then I'll hand it to somebody and let it be a blessing to them. But uh and I love the feeling of being around books and just the the tactile side of books. I like that. But I think the you know being able to have however many books, you know, hundreds of if not thousands of books in your in your pocket is pretty great. Yeah, so yeah, it's a tough one for sure. All right, uh another feat. Um it's they're saying uh a hundred meters running in sub 13 seconds. Now we were talking about this a little bit before we got into this podcast. Javen, you're saying that you feel like that's pr that's not that fast.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:07

Well, I was rethinking about this question. I think for a man, that's not fast at all. I think if you're a woman, that's pretty fast. Because I would assume, and I'm gonna look this up right now, but the record for the women's 100 is gonna be substantially slower than what than what it is for. Because the guys are much bigger, faster, obviously stronger. Yeah, let me see. That's to their advantage. Yeah, the record is 10.49 for women. That's a record. That's a record for women. That's like married those girls that are. I'd say like 15%. Because I still think there's a good amount of people that no, I don't think so, though. I think well, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:49

I guess. Even if you were like a soldier and you ran, let's say you ran 10 miles a day, you're still not running that fast.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:55

So I think 13 seconds, the fastness is what I could run thir sub 13 when I was in like seventh grade, which to me is like we're very, very fast.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:04

You're you're a club soccer player and you may you you could run long distance, run track.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:08

But it's like you take the average male size like in the world, it would be something like five foot seven, you're roughly like 150 pounds. So it would be like what essentially what the decent makeup is for like a large portion of like um Asian or countries like around India and Pakistan. Yeah. So I would think that the average male would would be able to run like around a 13. Because if you're lower, because I think they're lower body fat percentage on average than what like it's it's practice.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:37

I don't think I think the majority of people don't even run ever. Two, I guess so don't think they think they walk a lot of steps, ton of steps. That's what keeps them thin. Yeah, but I don't think most people run to they're not running flat out unless to your point there's a tiger, there's a dog, yeah. There are fangs in some ways that are chasing you, which you have that miraculous gear. I don't know where it's at, but you shift into miraculous and then you just like run across the water. Yeah, but I I don't know. I think it would be really hard. I'm just gonna say this for me. I'm out. No sub-13 for me. I don't think I could hit it right now. Nope, not at all. Yeah, so I still think you're good. You're totally fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:09

I think you'd I think I haven't ran a 100 in forever. I'm curious to see what the time would be. I think if you run a sub-11, you're pretty fast. I think like if you run like a sub 10.5, you're really fast, of course.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:19

Yeah, um, I mean the record is what nine? Is nine five is nine, five, it's like you're saying bolt, yeah, which the guy's gigantic and run like the wind. Yeah, and all the guys that got even close are all like right there. So that's what I'm saying. 13 is so fast, still fast anyway. Anyway, all right, um, bar hang for two minutes. I've seen lots of people try this at a lot of our conferences and stuff, they have this as a thing where you win like a deal, and they don't even do two minutes, they do one minute. Yeah, this is crazy. You can't do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:45

Yeah, and I couldn't do two minutes.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:47

This has got to be also one of those ones that I don't believe. I think like I've the top 1% of people would be able to do like above 75 seconds, not 120. There's no way. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:58

Just because like, oh, I guess most of the think about physical Asia. So we were watching that with your sisters. It's a it's a show out of out of Korea, and the first version was mostly Korean. They had a handful of internationals. Then the next one was Asia, and they had everybody, so it's like all over Asia, and it's like bodybuilders, it's like firefighters, it's like extreme sports people, it's people that are like models, so they just look shredded. Well, just because you have the muscles that look that way doesn't mean your muscles work for what you're trying to do. And they one of the things is they they drop the floor out and you have to hang, and it's whoever the the last people to hang. And obviously, like you know, professional climbers are just like griped and just chilling, yeah. And other people are toast. Exactly. Because to your point, like you know, a bar hang is way different because it's like all your weight on your arms extended, you're not locked in, you're not pegged out, you don't have your foot, so it's just your arms. So I was thinking about Alex Hondo, those guys would be fine. Obviously, they do this all the time, but they have long muscles, strong hands. And I think most people, if they're on the squatty side where they have big muscles, those are heavy. Yeah, yeah, you know, to hang for a minute and a half or two minutes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:01

And there's not a lot of people that can do calisthenics. Like most people that are going to the gym are mostly doing it to like build muscle or like they just go and lift and that's it. Nobody's really like cardio hanging like that. Yeah, but nobody's trying to do like flags, muscle ups. Nobody's trying to yeah, no, like there's like a uh a super small percentage of people that even go to the gym that do that. Correct. So there's no way that 120 is the right, the right number for seconds. I I think it's probably closer to 75.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:26

But so let's lean into that for the gym side. And the next one is that you can deadlift two times your body weight.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:31

This is probably accurate.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:32

I can't I think you can do this.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:33

I can't do this. You don't think so? I know so because I I don't deadlift. I like don't deadlift at all. I thought maybe you could, because you'd have strong legs. No, not no. Not like maybe because your knees are what? No, I just I just don't have very strong legs. Like people that have strong legs you can visibly see because like whenever they wear shorts, um it'll it'll like it almost looks like it's like wrapping around, like kind of like people have big arms where it's like wrap like their shirts wrapping around their uh their uh bicep, their bicep and tricep. It's like it'll wrap around your quads and your hamstrings, and those people definitely can and can go like to the problem all the time. Don't go to the wide, don't go to the wide shot. No, that's definitely not me. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:12

I I just I think it would take at least a few months for me to be able to do this. So that would be hard. I think at the height of and I was doing obviously you're doing elymptic lifting when you do crossfits. I did it for a few years when we lived in Alexandria, and I would say even then I don't think I was double even when I was doing it. Now I wasn't trying to do PRs all the time. That wasn't just what I was trying to do, but I was um, but you are trying to like you know consistently do it. I definitely could do a lot of weight consistently, but I never got up to 400 and I definitely weighed more than 200. So I don't think I did over 400. No, I did three, whatever, 380, these other these other numbers, we do it for reps, but I never think I ever maxed out, but yeah, I'd be really today. There's no way. There's no way.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:50

I'm curious to see what the one for squat and I think bench press is is is your body weight. I think most people can't usually can't do that. Um definitely not double, but squat I would imagine would be like 2.5.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:05

That's like an anomaly. Yeah, because it's so because usually a guy that's doing that is gonna be around 200. Let's say he's a buck ninety. That's like double your that's so.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:13

It's all genetics for the most part. Because even people that are like um that are really strong but weigh nothing. Like there's a dude that is like 155 pounds that has like the I think the squat record, it's like 765 or something like that. It's like exponential, it's like almost five times his body weight, or something ridiculous like that. But um, yeah, it's it's probably not like that. It all goes down to genetics. It's like, yeah, there's only like a handful of people that small that can bench even anything close to like 315 at that point, is like you're 0.001% of people or something like that. So it's ridiculous. You essentially have to be born really big in order to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:48

So the net the last one that we see is a marker, top 1% of people, 20 flights of stairs, climb 20 flights of stairs consistently.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:55

We think does that count church stairs going up and down this? Because I've definitely done that just in one day because I forgot my drill, then I forgot my screwdriver.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:05

That's true. That's a good point, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:08

So I don't know. I I could probably do 20 flights of stairs. It may take a while, but I could do them.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:13

Uh we used to live on 12. Like when we lived in Alexandria, we lived up on the 12th floor, and so I would take the stairs and I would do multiple reps of it. So I know I can do 20 flights, um, but uh not without being winded. I think that's kind of the point, is like not being winded. Oh, I'm like, dude, I was toast, man. Like because you'd run it twice and you're just like, you know what I mean? That was like 24 flights. So you know, I I don't think at 20 I'd have been like doo-doo doo. Let's go have a tea.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:37

Oh, I wasn't claiming that at all.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:39

Yeah, no, for sure. Jay, what do you think, man?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:41

You've lived up there too, so uh did you ever do that? I think I could. I could do, I think you can do 20. I go up like five or six, pretty consistent because that's I live on them, whatever, but every time I come from the gym, I don't take the elevator. It's it's because I want to um it's it's you do cardio at the gym and then you take the elevator. I don't I usually don't do cardio. I naturally will walk like eight to ten case steps just per day because of how big the campus is, yeah, and just because of how much I go back and forth. But um I wasn't gonna say, oh no, the reason is just because usually if I'm on a call, it'll drop in and out because it'll connect to my Wi-Fi and then could like go back to cellular whenever I'm in the and then the elevator will just cut it out entirely. So I'll just in order to stay on, I'll just like keep it on cellular, turn off my wi-fi, and just run up the stairs to my room. Um, but I don't know. I haven't done it in a while since my knee, but it's been uh only about like a week and a half, two weeks. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:35

But so maybe shout out to you guys, top one percent of people that can do the hundred words a minute, six a sub six mile thing, one leg 60 seconds of balance, 60 seconds of balance, 75 push-ups in a row, eight hours of sleep consistently, swim one mile, no rest, walk 20,000 steps, no winded, read 30 books a year, 100 meters sub, 13 seconds of sprint, bar hang two minutes, deadlift, two times your body weight, and climb 20 uh 20 flights of stairs. If you could do all that stuff, congratulations. We're big fans of you. I don't know who you are, but congrats.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:07

Come to Youth Camp with us, please.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:09

We need you on our team for Youth Camp. I'm sure you're older than that, but that's alright. Praise God. Yeah. Hey, uh, on the creative side, we talk about uh technology. One of the things that we've seen is humanoid robots. Uh, one of the things we have talked about kind of in passing was how Tesla is changing over their whole factory in Fremont. Is that right? To uh in California to actually be, they're not doing the Model X anymore, they're not doing the Model S anymore. They're just making Tesla robots out of there. Yeah. That is really interesting.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:35

Man, of how how ubiquitous they're planning on these Tesla. I mean, because we see Teslas literally everywhere here in Arizona, they're everywhere. It's like very normal. Yeah. Um, my I just had lunch right now with a friend. We just had lunch with a friend who has being a Tesla Cybertrip. We just parked in the parking lot, didn't think anything about it. They're very normal now.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:51

By the way, for the first time ever, I saw somebody carrying something in their truck as we were driving. That's crazy. As we were uh uh driving out to the food bank to go pick up food, it was the first time ever they had a big TV strapped into the back of the room. That's crazy. But I that was the first time I'd ever seen anything in the bed of a Tesla.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:15

That's so funny. Yeah, we were teasing even one of our friends. He we gave a bunch of church chairs uh a little over a year ago to this one friend Mario, and he came with his uh with the trailer and his Tesla Cybertruck, and we were laughing. We're like, dude, I didn't know these trucks could do this. Yeah, like messing around. He was like, dude, shut up, you know? That's funny. And not so many words, but you get the idea. So pretty funny. Yeah, very interesting. I mean, they're leaning heavy on these humanoid robots. I think, man, once it gets through the gateway, it's gonna be everywhere. Everywhere, everywhere. I think we're gonna be very normal. We're gonna be like, yo, uh, robot change the you know, the shot on this camera. Yeah, it's gonna be like that iRobot. And Gage is gonna be fighting all of them with like a stick in the very true. So shout out, Gage. Um, one of the things that we did see, um, they showed the US, you know, it's been a joke for a long time that birds aren't real, like birds are fake. That's been a like kind of a thing that's on the internet. Well, you know, unfortunately, the USA was like, that's a great idea. Yeah. So they make uh they have these raven robots, they look just like a raven. And it's any the guys are showing them, the guys that are running it's the US, the US's program, and it looks like a raven. And they like can do all sorts of stuff, drop things in locations. They can it's it's not the it's not the best. Yeah, it's not the best. I didn't feel warm and fuzzy watching the video.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:29

Not at all.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:29

I was very impressed. I was like, this is crazy, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:33

It was it was wild to see that because it took all I mean, it wasn't like uh like a drone where you had to throw it or anything. He was holding it like a hawk, yeah, and it just took flight. Yep. That was it was wild to see, man. That's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:47

It reminded me of Hunger Games where the bird comes into the into the thing and the thing, you know, you're like, oh, okay, great.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:53

What did you think, Jeffrey? I mean, it is kind of crazy. We've seen, I think we talked about this once where like German scientists were like engineering cockroaches to do the same thing or something like that. It's like they're just gonna make this smaller and smaller and smaller.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:07

Well, and the other half of this is that China has gone smaller, they have now the robotic fly. Yeah, yeah, it's bizarre. So they're saying it's almost uh it's one of the things that can penetrate anywhere because of the gaps and doors and all the things, and they can fly around almost silent. I mean, it's like ibs impressive. It's terrifying. At first I thought it was AI, I thought it was just like a thing, and then they showed like the actual practicality of it where I was like, I don't know if AI can do this yet. You know what I mean? So it was very impressive to see how small they made these things. That's so crazy, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:36

It's w it's wild to think that chips can become that size to where they'll fit in that in that body and still be like a cohesive system.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:43

Yeah, because we think of chips being the size of the thing they're making. Exactly. It's like a pretty good size chip. Yeah, but they're but they're making these micro, these tiny, tiny nano chips or whatever. Crazy stuff, man. Interesting, interesting. Um they did, however, use surveillance, and it was drone surveillance from my understanding, um to to actually stop 292 drone bombs that were found in Mexico. Um, reported that the cartel had them, but you don't know who it was, if it was them or some kind of other kind of organization. But man, what a crazy thing to think about 292 drone bombs being stopped before it got to the American border. So crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:21

It's it's unreal how um how well equipped these these cartels and stuff are.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:27

It's just it's it's almost like they have millions billions of dollars on checks.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:31

I mean, they're their own little private armies. It's yeah, it's terrifying, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:35

Yeah, we talked about what's happening in Mexico and the kind of the threat of that. We're talking to a friend today who was actually planning to be down there and how he had to abort his plans because of what happened in Mexico, kind of in that that one week uh situation there. But yeah, man, what a terrifying thing. I mean, we think about it from perspective of America as if it was coming to us, because it could have been. But what if it was just there meant for Mexico? You know what I mean? What a terrifying thing to think about how many I mean, that's a lot. That's a lot of bombs, man. To have 292 be stopped. So thankful for that. Thankful for the grace of God that those didn't didn't blow up there, but crazy. Uh we talked about flock a lot here, which is the programming that's being used by cameras to track drivers and people. Um, it was proven in some of the videos that we saw where person a person can use a AI source, like an open market AI source, so not anything behind a paywall. They can use something that's even free and they can connect it to flock, meaning to some of the flock um information that's there, and actually track people. It will give you all sorts of information about a person. And they were trying to say, like, oh no, this is like completely secure, all stuff, and the people proved that right away, just using normal AI nowadays. You can uncover the flock con concept and understand what people did. The one I saw, the guy said, Okay, this is a couple they live in Atlanta, greater Atlanta. Um, they're seeing arguing with each other at this at this farmer's market that quick that get a flag, so it gave us a piece. But what you could back up is you could track them everywhere they went that day. And they went to lunch at a cafe, they went to church in the morning, and they drove 30 minutes from their house in the suburbs because you know where they live, and it shows you how much in debt they are on their credit card. I mean, dude. Basically so scary how much information can be just grifted off of you based on your on your on your profile. Um, and the CEO is saying that people that are against them, there's a there's an anti-flock organization that's kind of coming against flock. The CEO Flock says that those people are terrorists. So I'm like, oh, this is interesting. Interesting that you and the interviewer's like, I don't know that they would want to be called terrorists. I was like, agreed. You know what I mean? Yeah, so it's a little bit really interesting, guys. What you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:45

I just really hope, uh, like you were saying earlier, that this uh that AI law gets uh gets caught up with where we're at quickly. Yeah, because uh if not it you're gonna be playing uh Fire Escape, you know, the whole time. Yeah. No kidding, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:01

Yeah, absolutely. It'd be very, very scary. Javen, what do you think, man?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:04

Oh man, it's it's kind of terrifying because like at least the difference is like with um with China, you understand that they're rolling this out like with ties to the actual government. Right. But Flock's just kind of rolling this out at as a third party. They definitely have government access, but none of this is like public information that people are willing to tell, or like is is being rolled out in like some uh some law or like some I don't know, a bill that gets passed by Congress, whatever. Flock's just kind of given the permission to do this, and then now it's being like spread throughout all these metropolitan cities. So it it is kind of scary that they really can track you and pinpoint all these like digital information about you. At the same time, this is what the la like the lasting digital age over the last decade or so has been leading up to, so that they have all this information on you that they can just access it anytime. It I mean I think I said this before, but like uh just by living in the Western world, you're agreeing to live in a contract where you not no longer have privacy in the sense of the word, as in like uh an all of your ma all of your information is essentially public. Maybe if you live like in a really remote rural shack somewhere and have never touched a piece of technology, but that that's like I think it'd still heat nap you at that point, yeah, exactly, because there's some kind of flyover, some kind of whatever. So it's uh it's pretty crazy. And I think the whole terrorist thing is stupid. It's like the same argument that like if people are calling out um like leaders that happen to be a part of like a certain like uh race or whatever, where they're like, oh, you're anti-Semitic, oh you're against like African Americans, you're against Hispanics. Um it's like it's stupid.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:39

It's just pure generalization, exactly using some kind of word.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:42

Exactly. It's it's super dumb. They're just calling out the behavior of like a particular organization saying, hey, there's security issues with this, and the fact that people can access this public information raises a lot of red flags, and they're like, oh no, we're we're safe and we're doing it the right way. It's like, come on, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:57

And I'll say this like, we don't live in fear. This is not something where we're gonna operate out of a place of fear as Christ followers. We're not called to be people who are afraid and live in fear. Um, but there are some real understandings of pieces that we're, hey, these if we're left unchecked, this is definitely something that's gonna take away your freedoms. It's gonna take away some other pieces. So something that we need to be aware of. We don't live in fear, we're not gonna operate in that way, but be aware of what's going on. What is this ASB? It talks about being as wise as serpents, being those who understand, going all the way back to the reptilian thing earlier. Be wise as those who who are not based on the parameters of of this world. So be wise, but be harmless as doves, be those who are like Christ and being being a Christ impact.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:37

So the Lord help us world, not of the world. Correct, sir.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:40

That's right. So the Lord help us. Hey, one of the things we talk about is community. We've been doing a focus on kingdom builders here over the last few weeks, and wanted to kind of uh highlight that here uh we made what's uh what's called a faith promise. A faith promise is where you say, as the Lord enables me for this year, then I'm going to give X amount of dollars either a month or in general, like maybe throughout the year, to missions. And what we do is then collectively, each person that makes a faith promise, we uh as a church leadership, we understand how much has been pledged. And so then we can kind of come from that number to our to our missions partners. We have missionaries all the time contacting us to see if we there's support that we could give to their mission that they're gonna have across the world and taking the gospel to people. And so that's one of the ways that we can increase both the money we give to person as well as more people that we can add on. So we're we're already doing that here in our community in Cornerstone, over 40 missionaries and ministries a month, and then many times more than that. So we just gave today to another ministry for something that's going on. But man, what a blessing to be a part of that. Um actually we gave yesterday as well to something else. And so it's a blessing to be able to be a part of those things, but man, a challenge in in uh in that because the Lord, you have your own number and He'll give you a different number. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so you've had that experience.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:55

Yeah, we have. Um, and um so we heard a a testimony uh That uh some that Angie shared with us. Um, I won't share her testimony, but we we've had something just like that where um there was one time uh the Lord had put a number in my mind and I was like, no. And so I knocked a zero off of it. Okay, and then I told Annie what the number was, and she agreed, but then she goes, But I really think it was supposed to be at the the zero, and I was like, Okay, well, since that was the number I got and that was the number you got, that's what we're gonna do. Wow. Uh and so it it we uh we went through and we we pledged and all that, and God was faithful to um it expand us to where we could still meet all of our bills and and you know have some of our wants and still be able to give the mission. So yeah, that's how I feel too, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:52

I was like, man, if if I if the Lord's gonna give me this opportunity, then I'm gonna I'm gonna use it for what what he gave it to me for. So praise the Lord, what a blessing.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:01

Um and I'm thankful because in my case, man, you know, um I have kind of a joke with some friends, like they're like we call each other bougie, saying that we have bougie tastes, you know, um, in some case on a balone on a baloney budget. That's definitely the case in my case versus their case. Uh these guys have like, you know, obviously a lot more uh in the business realm they've done very well, so they have a lot more to be bougie with. But what I've seen is that God will use even what my little humble stuff, and he'll use that in uh in and multiply it. And we've been able to to give pretty inclement, you know, incrementally over these years, which have been awesome. So the Lord help us to do that. Yeah, JB, you're with me in Chile last year. You got to be there with Pastor Moses. You want to talk about kind of your experience of being there and seeing the project, some of the stuff that we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:45

Yeah, it's super cool. Like, I I think the most common concern that people have in relation to like missions giving is they don't know where the money's going to. Right. And I think we try to make that as transparent as possible, but obviously we can't take them to the physical location where it's happening. Right. So to be able to go there and actually see like the ministry and work and the community outreach that they're pouring into is super cool because it really gives you a frame of reference for the fact that there still is very much a need within these communities and just how much our currency can go within those places, like of a relatively smaller amount versus doing a project of the same size here, um, and how feasible that is for a congregation of like our size or a little bit bigger to meet. Um, but people are just kind of not cognizant of that fact and think, oh, this surely this requires like a whole lot more money. And oh, if I don't give, somebody else will give. And they they kind of do that. So I think a lot of the times what happens here, and I'm notice this as I've gotten a little bit older, is that people think if they give you their time, they don't have to give you their money, or vice versa. Um, whereas the Lord is very specific, that not only is walking with him a very much a time commitment, but we also see that the tithe is a very scriptural thing and has been since when I don't know the Israelites followed it forever ago. Sure. And it's written in the old law, and then it's been something that's continued in a in a church donation, things like that. So um, yeah, I mean, it it was awesome to be not only in uh in Chile, but also to be in in Paraguay, where we saw there was a ground for a community center to be built there. Yep. Um and lots of other projects to go.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:13

We saw tons of projects there.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:14

Yeah, 100%. So it's been it's been uh great to be able to go there and actually see the physical location. A lot of the times when you're just in the states for so long, you get like you you just forget of the fact that yeah, there is need elsewhere as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:26

So absolutely. Angus, you got to see some of that in Nepal, same kind of thing, people giving to the ministry and getting to be a part of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:32

Yeah, you know, you forget how how valuable a dollar can be around the world. I mean, here you need 12 of them to get a coffee. But but those same 12 dollars, I mean, that that's somebody's wage for a year, you know, in in certain parts of the the world. And so money can go a lot further. Um, and so that was one thing that we were really challenged with early on in our uh in our giving because we couldn't afford it and and all of that stuff. But once we uh once we saw that the Lord was faithful, um we were able to then walk more and more in faith. Um, but if if you you just needing to start somewhere, you know, twenty dollars is goes so much further in Nepal than it does here.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:16

Yeah. Amen. You know, and one of the things that you got to see be there, I mean, obviously both you guys got to be a part uh with me is we you know we would take funds with us and we would give them to these pastors. So, you know, you got to see you know us hand off some of that those blessings that people entrusted us with, and we're carrying that on to them and kind of the next place and be able to be a blessing to them in that way, and it was very cool, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:38

Yeah, and to to Javin's point, that was one of the things when I first when we first started giving, it was like, where's the money going? Um, and once I found out that there, you know, there's no administration fee and you know, none of that, it doesn't go like that. Right. The money goes straight to where you've said it needs to go. And that's uh that's one thing. So um, you know, when when you're not that other organizations are bad, but there's a lot of fees and a lot of people that get paid before it goes to to where you're wanting. Yeah. Uh but but with kingdom builders, you know that it's that's where it's going. It's going straight to the the people.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:13

Yeah. That's right. Um, I think even on even on our side, from understanding it having even been people within a missions organization, um, it's one of those things where it's a blessing because it would even operational within things like Assembly as a God World Missions, H EWM, uh, their fee is way really low operationally compared to other organizations. So even when we give through them to something, we know it's only a small percentage that's being taken out for the operation of the whole thing. And then when we're in country, we able to give directly two pastors or two things. You don't even have that. You know what I mean? So it goes direct, which is pretty awesome. So a blessing, a blessing to be a part of for sure. So let me encourage you to be those who are kingdom builders to give to the Lord and to the missions and let it be a challenge to you to sacrifice to do those things. Praise the Lord. Hey, one of the things we talk about is competence, and we talk about different books, and one of those is Dream Big by Bob Goff. And the concept he talks about here is this idea of taking action. He was saying that you know we need to be those who take action. And one of the points he says is that comfortable people don't need Jesus, desperate people do. And so it's not about staying comfortable to the theme that we talked about earlier today, instead taking action. Pretty powerful. What do you just think?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:17

Yeah, I mean, it's so true. Like uh, like Christ even says himself that he came to dwell amongst the sinners and not the righteous men, because it's the broken people that need him first before the righteous people do. I mean, it it's so true that at the lowest point it's so easy to just become like enveloped in this idea of like everything is against me, and there's nobody that would love me, or like when people really walk out that level of desperation, the only thing that can meet them in that instance is some kind of supernatural love. So whenever Christ comes to people within that way, the the power of a redemptive story of bringing somebody out of that suffering is ever more powerful than somebody that would just continue to walk faithfully, because to some aspect of the human experience, it's boring. Nobody wants to hear about, oh, my life was like great because I was consistent in that. Everybody's like, okay, cool, but that's not what my life was like at all. That's why so many of the biblical stories of like the suffering that Job went through, or like even the redemption story of somebody like David who had it all and then gave that away because of an act that he committed and then re-established himself back into alignment with what the Lord had for him. And even with Solomon, we see that there may still be hesitancy or some sort of haziness scripturally on whether or not he did walk back into alignment with Christ. Um, it's certainly it's certainly a true fact that that the Lord really does come for the people that are at the lowest of the low first and then will administer to the righteous. And it's not it's not to say that righteous people or people that continually walk in faith or are continually um taking action within that regard are gonna be deprived of any sort of interaction whatsoever. But it's more that they don't need that sense of direction because they've already found it from prior experience or prior um interaction in that regard.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:57

So yeah, if we're gonna be those that dream big, then we need to take action. So the Lord help us. All right, one last thing, one word to leave the podcast. Angus.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:06

Introspection.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:08

I like it. Javin? Missions. I'm gonna say seraphim, beware the reptile. No. Uh God bless you. We love you guys wherever you are as part of the collective.