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The Science of SF Dating, with Celeste Amadon

July 20, 2026 • Jayden Clark

0:00 | 53:31

I caught up with @Celesteamadon to chat about a few things SF dating:
- Single until series B
- The state of dating apps
- Men in SF

I was also put on the spot with how I used to date (trick question I was terrified).

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SF dating vibes in 2026 and single until series B

SPEAKER_05 2:35

this is the kind of analysis that we actually do on members of the technical staff. Um, wouldn't be caught dead getting technical. We're going purely based off of vibes. So that's how we're gonna start.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

Vibes I can do. Vibes I can do with you. We started out the year with the trend of having a boyfriend is embarrassing. That was a big thing. There was a huge Vogue piece that went super mega viral, especially with women. Okay. That was basically saying that everyone needs to decenter men from their lives. And then I think on the flip side of the spectrum for men in San Francisco, we had the single until series B, fiasca. I was DMing the guy on X who like started that whole thing being like, You're gonna kill my business. Yeah. Like, like you, if my company fails enough, I was like, it is your fault. This is fall.

SPEAKER_05 3:18

Well, it's okay. You had the online warriors like me quote tweet dunking the living shit out of him. So uh I think that's gone. I think that's gone. Anyway, I mean, like like I said, we were just talking before, right? I just tweeted out that I'm gonna be starting a VC firm, uh, contrarian VC firm that backs people with oh founders with college degrees and those that are in loving relationships. Be calling it like dad capital or second capital.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

I do not qualify. I do not qualify.

SPEAKER_05 3:44

Sorry, drive by.

SPEAKER_02 3:45

Drive by. But what's your minimum check size? I would love to be a part of it.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

Exactly. Exactly. Friend support friends.

SPEAKER_05 3:55

I'll make an exception. I'll make an exception, okay? This is this is dad capital. Um, but yeah, where was I going with this? Well, okay, so single, so we had the the Vogue piece, single until Series B. I mean, single until series B, that was what? I mean, that was a few months now. Uh that was a few months ago now. We're in July now. Um, any particular summer vibes? Anything that's like on your mind? Obviously, you've been spending a bit of time in San Diego, but we're here to talk about San Francisco.

SPEAKER_02 4:21

I have been in San Diego, and let me just tell you, San Diego is a fucking wild place in comparison to San Francisco. It makes me feel like makes me feel like a prude being in San Diego.

SPEAKER_05 4:34

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 4:35

No, I'm serious.

SPEAKER_05 4:36

Like wait, what do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_02 4:38

I don't know if your followers would understand this reference, but like in Sex in the City, there's like Carrie and there's Charlotte, and like Charlotte wears ballet flats and headbands. And I've always felt like Carrie. In San Diego, I am Charlotte. Like I am I am not Girls Gone Wild, and they are. Um But I think vibes for dating in in San Francisco this summer, I think it really is this turnway from dating in general. One of the things that we've seen with known is that it's not just that people are too busy, it's that they actually are disinterested or have kind of put themselves away from the dating scene.

SPEAKER_03 5:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

And in their mind, it's like an almost elevation of how grindy they are, which I think you saw with the singleton till series B trend where they're like, oh, like I'm not dating, I'm not looking for love because I have, you know, my uh B2B software for the back room of HVAC companies to work on. And I have like Uber for Dogs to build. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05 5:38

Hey, hey, no, no drive bys on our uh on our like vintage B2B Sasco's, okay? I used to run one, so please, excuse me.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Did you really?

SPEAKER_05 5:47

Yeah, my last my last startup was a was a B2B SAS company. It's still it's still doing well. It's still doing well. We we we sold uh software to equipment rental businesses, so it kind of fits your exact description. I was dating though. I was dating though. Uh when I when I ran that. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 6:02

Where were you dating? No, I know, but were you dating like you were going to the bars? Where where were you meeting these people?

SPEAKER_05 6:08

Oh, I mean, fuck getting interviewed now. I mean, it's that's actually it's actually perfect.

Can you cold approach at the gym

SPEAKER_05 6:11

I mean, where was I going? I was uh uh mostly approaching at the gym.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

We talked about this before we started the podcast. I think part of the problem with dating today is that a lot of the places that it used to be socially acceptable to hit on people, it's like no longer acceptable. Yeah. I mean, if you hit on someone at work, like you're going to HR. Of course. Of course. Work used to be like the number two place that people would meet their significant others. And then we have Jaden in the gym.

SPEAKER_05 6:38

I don't I don't recommend doing that.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

They're like trying to get their workout in.

SPEAKER_05 6:43

Okay, I don't I don't remember. Is that useful for you? Yes, of course. I'm sure it was. I mean, like I would have I'll give you that. Thank you. I'm just fucking gassing me up. I'm gonna have you on more often. Holy shit. Uh so basically, uh, I did okay. I was very I'm always very calculated about these things, and you know, this was a spreadsheet? No. Absolutely not. I would not reduce uh, I mean, you know, I don't I don't have to now because you know that in a in a in a loving relationship, it's great. Uh but uh I I would not never want to reduce dating down to something like a startup. I mean, I know people with spreadsheets. I think it's like totally dehumanizing. Uh I think I think I think you're like, you're just going on way too many if that's more of a notes app person. I'm more of a just like my contacts and iMessage kind of person. Like, oh, I have I have their contact because I know who they are. Um but I don't yeah, for me, I mean the the the gym strategy for me, and there's reasoning behind this. Uh like I said, I don't I don't suggest anybody from x.com uh doing this unless you just happen to be have the gym as like at an extremely important part of your life. Uh but I would never approach cold. Never ever approach cold. I always make sure that I've seen them a few times and that like they're there regularly and that they know that I'm there.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

It makes it warm. It's like you've like exchanged a few eye contact for sure glances across the weight room. Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_05 8:09

Just as long as like they know that I'm there. Because it's like, you know, the last thing that I'm like startled out. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 8:16

And it's like, and it's like, okay, well when you're like hiking on the trails and you like sing a song so the bears know that you're there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:23

I pull out my mace. Actually, no, they pull out their mace. Yeah, exactly. Get the fuck away with me. Get the fuck away from me.

unknown 8:31

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 8:32

Yeah, concerning, concerning. But no, thankfully, uh nobody, nobody at the gym who I attempted to approach pulled out mace. So that's good. I still have my three.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

How many dates did you get out of the gym?

SPEAKER_05 8:41

Um, maybe five or six.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

Which gym was this?

SPEAKER_05 8:43

Uh this was Fitness SF Mid Market.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 8:47

Yeah. Yep, yep. So, you know, this is uh, yeah, I I mean I What time were you going at? What time was I going about anywhere between 3 and 6 p.m.?

SPEAKER_04 8:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

You were going to the gym at 3 p.m.

SPEAKER_05 8:58

I still do. Go at unemployed hours.

SPEAKER_02 9:01

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 9:02

I feel like, I feel like uh don't follow my strategy, people. I mean, or I mean I like it.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

I just don't think this is applicable advice to the greater amount of San Francisco.

SPEAKER_05 9:11

I, okay. So my my reasoning for it is, I mean, I mean, many people will meet people at bars or parties, whatever. Like, I meet people at parties as well, but um, you know, and we can we can sort of like get into uh sort of the different places that people might meet in San Francisco. But the reason I did the gym is because that's where I've always felt the most confidence. Like I've I it's such an important part of my life. Uh has been such an important part of my life for years and years and years at this point. And the idea of me meeting somebody on one, an app, two, a bar, like odds are that they align with me and how I live is like extremely low.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

You think it's sorting your pool into a more, you know, probabilistically correct. Yep, exactly. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 9:56

It's like, what's the point of me meeting somebody at a bar when I never go to bars? It's like, oh. It's like I meet somebody at a bar.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

It's like direction, directionally incorrect.

SPEAKER_05 10:03

Directionally incorrect.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Directionally very bad.

SPEAKER_05 10:08

I'm so glad you brought up the word directionally because it's like people. People have been talking about this. You know, we we we actually just can't.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

Directionally is the word of 2026.

SPEAKER_05 10:19

Yeah. We can't we we can't physically say the words right or wrong. We need to say directionally correct, which otherwise equals wrong, or directionally incorrect, which otherwise I think maybe it means right. Uh we've we've got to like add all of these sorts of things. Just like orthogonal was the word of 2025.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

I hated that word.

SPEAKER_05 10:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 10:37

I I I always eye roll it, orthogonal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:40

It's been replaced with directionally. Um, at least I think that's what Paula Ramble said this morning. Um anyway, holy shit. She's just turned it into an interview with me. Um, so I appreciate this. Uh hopefully.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

It's almost like I I really have made a career out of asking people questions about themselves and trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_05 10:56

Yeah, well, this is literally my fucking job, and now you're making me do it worse. Okay, turning it back to you then. So, okay, and the next thing, because I mean obviously I spoke about apps and how uh it's not a method that I wanted to

The state of dating apps

SPEAKER_05 11:10

use, but apps specifically. Like what is happening to them? You mentioned that, you know, they they use some AI, I mean, makes sense, they're they're they're they're algorithmic, uh, they're not exactly geared for people finding their true love or their partner, it's geared for people staying on the apps. Yeah. What is the state of them in 2026? And if you're able to refer to them, uh refer to SF specifically, great. If not, also it doesn't really matter.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

I think the we've all seen the the trading of these apps on the markets. I mean, it's really terrible. I think it's I wish I knew the Bumble numbers off the top of my head. But it's like something like if you had a thousand dollars of Bumble stock in 2018, you now have like 60 bucks. It's like really bad.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Yeah, kind of rewarding.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

So bad that Bumble is considering being sold and going back to private.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

I did see this.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Um and you have to wonder how a company that how both companies, Bumble and and Match Group that has Tinder and Hinge, have so many users and are serving something that is such a primal human desire and need, like love and sex, everybody wants one or both.

SPEAKER_05 12:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Um take your pick.

SPEAKER_05 12:18

I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

Um how you could be serving such a primal need for so many fucking people and be unable to make enough money to like have a successful company. And I think it really comes down to the fact that like they've built businesses around a success, they've built businesses around users not succeeding, which means that their product over time gets worse, not better. Uh I think there's like only one thing people in dating are really willing to pay for other than status. Like you could pay for Raya for status, but it's like an outcome.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

And the the thing about an outcome is it's really hard to figure out how to put somebody on the right date with the right person. Yeah. And you need to know a lot about who you're who your the person you're matching is if you're going to do that. Um, and they just don't know anything about you. Right. Like when I was on hinge in San Francisco, I was matched with like four guys named Joe, and they all had my phone number. So I had like hinge guy therapist because he was a therapist. Actually, it turned out like I thought he was a therapist for the first three dates with him because I had him labeled in my phone that way. No, he was volunteering with autistic children.

SPEAKER_05 13:31

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Like I got it that wrong. That's interesting. I had another guy that was like AI dental tech hinge in my phone.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

So that's also like you don't know anything about these people that you're matching with on dating apps, which is part of the reason like I never met most of them. I think that's a similarly shared thing with most women on dating apps, is like you match with a ton of people, you can't tell any of them apart. Most of them are in reasonably the same league of attractiveness. There's no there's no way to get conviction.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

I know it's like a silly thing to say about dating, but like there's no way to get conviction about wanting to go on a date with any particular man. So you just don't. And that's what you're seeing with the dating culture at large, not even just in San Francisco, but in the US, is like people just like aren't dating. So then when you go on a date, it feels like a much bigger deal because you don't go on dates, like the average American goes on like two dates a year. So then every date feels like a much larger deal. Getting ghosted by one of them feels like a much larger deal. Where actually you should be going on way more dates in quantity, but placing less importance on any singular one until you actually know that you like the person.

SPEAKER_05 14:37

Totally, totally. That makes sense to me. And I guess it also probably speaks to the fact that uh matchmakers, especially in the Bay Area, are able to make so much. I can't believe the numbers.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

There's so many

Matchmakers in SF

SPEAKER_02 14:50

men in San Francisco who have made, you know, a real living for themselves and are self-made, but have not been able to figure out how to have the either the social lives or romantic lives that they feel like should go along with the success that they've had. Um but I don't think that a million-dollar matchmaker is the trick there because matchmakers only know so many people. Yeah. I mean, it's a woman who's gotten many DMs from matchmakers myself. Like they DM you, they're like, I would like to set you up with this man. Like, you know nothing about me, too.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Like, you you looked at my Instagram.

SPEAKER_05 15:26

Please take me out for dinner first.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Like, oh my god. Like, I mean drink. I mean, like, look at that, like, this does seem like a lucrative business. Honestly, like I know what my career number two would be.

SPEAKER_05 15:40

Hey, maybe I should try it, you know, Mod's matchmaking service.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

Uh, you know, I feel like maybe you're commissioning your bundling your pupil.

SPEAKER_05 15:47

Yeah. We can talk about it after this. Uh, before we get because it's actually it's a perfect tangent, it's a perfect tangent into what I will say, and I am saying it. I am saying it, but the San Francisco eligibility problem. Um, so before we move on to the eligibility problem, I should give a shout out to Mots' newest sponsor, Langfuse. So Langfuse is your number one LLM ops, open source LLM ops. Um, Celeste's finding out that I just make all of my guests or co-hosts just sit through ad reads. So naturally, I'm just selling Celeste some software. I hope you feel okay about that. You there's nothing you can do about it now. It's already started. It's already started. Yeah, I bet. I bet. But Langfuse, uh, you can prompt management. Uh, what else do they do? Uh observability, of course. I'm I'm trying to think of all the different uh AI buzzwords, but they do it the best because they are the number one open source platform for it, and they help you essentially they essentially help your AI apps improve in real time over time. So Langfuse, thanks to them. Uh go check them out, very, very funny. Uh Clement, the founder. Thank you, Langfuse. Thank you. He invited me to his wedding. I only met him the other day. What a nice guy. What a nice.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

It's like Taylor Swift. Yeah. We're doing an MSG. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:02

What I wouldn't give. What I wouldn't give. Okay. Uh speaking of male eligibility, Clemens, the founder of Langfuse, totally eligible

The male eligibility problem in SF

SPEAKER_05 17:10

because he's getting married. Uh, those in SF, and again, you were alluding to this, wealthy, self-made, and yet they have forgotten it what is, in my opinion, one of the most important aspects of life itself, and that is love. That is love.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

Have they forgotten it or have they been unable to find it?

SPEAKER_05 17:30

Well, I mean, what are your thoughts on this?

SPEAKER_02 17:32

I don't think that they've forgotten it. I think that a lot of the unrest of men in San Francisco is the massive single dumb.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

Um, and I think that it's a San Francisco is a deep meritocracy.

SPEAKER_04 17:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Where I think we were talking about this earlier. Like, people don't really care how much money you have. People don't really care, even like where you went to school. Like, honestly, like they care like how smart and capable and successful in your own right you are. And not successful like on paper, but like it's like the idea of being cracked. It's like how but I think that these men who like they come to San Francisco, and a lot of them they actually do make it, which is you know fucking awesome for them. But a part of this whole like being this breed of like, you know, amazingly talented young person is pouring 100% of your life into it.

SPEAKER_04 18:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Which means that they kind of come up for air in their 30s and they're like, don't have the friend groups that I wish I had. I haven't dated very much. Yeah. I have been living here maybe for eight years. Yes. And that's a tough spot to be in.

SPEAKER_05 18:41

Totally, totally. Yeah, and it's like it's one of those things, and again, this is this is my take, right? This is my take. And that is uh SF dating is actually better for men because the women are more eligible. And what I mean by eligible is that uh they tend to be more well socialized, uh, more well adjusted, and it's kind of tying back to But those are two different things that you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 19:06

If a man finds a woman to date in San Francisco, it's probably a better deal because they're getting maybe a more like sophisticated, amazing woman.

SPEAKER_04 19:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

But I think that the the actual process of trying to find a partner as a man in San Francisco is super hard.

SPEAKER_05 19:22

Okay, interesting, interesting. Wouldn't you then say then, like, wouldn't you also then say like it's just because they kind of like they just aren't well social doesn't that doesn't that then come to them back to them being not eligible, right? Like not maybe being as good of a partner, maybe like, I mean, for example, uh, it's like obviously there's the whole sort of joke with with hackathons smelling bad or tech bro smelling bad, tech bro hygiene, all of these sorts of things. That would point to that would say to me that okay, if they smell bad, or if they uh don't necessarily know how to dress or they don't care about their appearance at all, perhaps that's probably contributing to their problems. Again, I'm saying this. I'm saying this. Uh, but that's where that's where my thought comes in along these lines.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

I think that it's not just about eligibility, it's about like the amount of time and effort you put into your own personal life. And so, like to the men that are like, oh, there's no women in San Francisco, my first question is, do you have any female friends?

SPEAKER_04 20:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

Do you know any women?

SPEAKER_04 20:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Um and if the answer is no, well, that's like the first problem. And I think that there is some overlap between the dominance of men in the tech world and the you know, disproportionate lack of women, and the fact that the tech social scene is very intertwined with the actual professional scene and who's at these companies. So when you have a lack of women in these companies, that does end up transferring over to there's just less women in this exact part of the San Francisco social scene. And I see it myself. Like I, you know, be friends with a ton of founders, most of which are men, and I think they're all lovely, and I you know think they're

7 Girls of SF and @MadisonKanna shoutout

SPEAKER_02 21:07

great. But I even found myself being like, where are the the girls in SF? Like it's the joke. It's like there's seven girls in SF, Madison is one of them. Um, but you're like, where are the girls? And it's because they're not working in tech. Yeah. And so if you have social circles that are limited to the people that work with you, and we see you know what those companies, their ratios look like, well, especially startups, right? Especially like young, grindy startup people. Totally. That's what ends up happening. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 21:34

Totally makes sense, totally makes sense. And I couldn't agree more. I mean, those that say that there are no women in SF, go to Lafayette Park on a sunny day, go to Trader Joe's, go to Whole Foods, uh, do I mean any any one of those things. Any one of those things. I mean Lafayette Park, I mean, I say that because I live close to there. Uh I've seen it for myself. Uh, and like, it's not to say go up to them, but you can at least just you advise them to watch them from a distance.

SPEAKER_02 21:59

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 22:00

Just observe. Please don't fucking do that. Yeah, don't fucking do that. Just it's just it's a proof point. It's a proof point that there are perhaps more than seven girls. Yeah, exactly. Do you know a woman? Do I know a woman? Yeah. Name a woman. I know my girlfriend.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

Don't name her.

SPEAKER_05 22:16

Yeah, I'm not going to name her. People can derive that from first principles if they uh want to be fucking weird about it. Uh okay, so to get into a few tweets about this, um, I forget what tweets that I brought up. So I'm gonna be reacting uh with you in real time as well. I love it. Okay, so Cinnna, Cinnah. Have you ever met Cinna before? No. No? Sinna's great. She says it's back in back in May. I need to be. Yeah. Uh yeah, I'd probably say. I mean,

@SinaHartung reaction

SPEAKER_05 22:43

that would that would make sense. Uh, dating advice for SF to meet beautiful women. So it's very, very topical. Beautiful women live in beautiful areas, go to the marina and presidio and make eye contact while walking. Beautiful women take care of themselves, join a vibey gym andor yoga class. Beautiful women curate quiet times with their friends, go to niche coffee shops and bookstores. Bonus. Lots of beautiful women move to the city and thus uh do new people activities, join a rec sports league, etc. Any thoughts?

SPEAKER_02 23:09

I think that that's all directionally correct. Yeah. But I think the problem is that a lot of men are not super comfortable approaching women in their life. I think I mean there's like stats that I would dispute, you know, the their credibility, but they feel directionally correct. Let's say like 60% of young men have never approached a woman in real life to ask them out on a date or hit on them in person. Feels pretty much right to me just based off of observing pure vibes, standing by the park and watching. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:42

We have monoculars like like 25 bands, red light on that.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

And so like that advice is great if you're telling, you know, men, here are the proof points, the women are there, go observe them to know that they exist. Right. But like for a lot of men, like they are not gonna just stop a woman mid walking down the sidewalk of the presidio. Yes. And even if they did, I would suspect it probably won't land perfectly.

SPEAKER_04 24:04

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

Maybe one out of three times it will, but you have to be prepared to suffer the two out of three times that it doesn't.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

And I don't think that a lot of you know men or women are are ready to deal with that type of face-to-face rejection because we're a lot less attuned to it now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:20

That totally makes sense. Totally makes sense. Um I have nothing to add to that. I have nothing to add to that. Uh so I'll just move on to the next one. Uh this is Son of Allie. Son of Allie, and this is uh this is basically

@sonofalli reaction

SPEAKER_05 24:31

saying exactly what I was saying before, but she's like, perhaps the men in SF would have more luck dating if they tried wearing deodorant. Bit of a drive-by. Um she's saying that, I'm saying that, you're not saying that.

SPEAKER_02 24:39

Are you wearing deodorant today?

SPEAKER_05 24:41

Yes. Uh I would Congratulations. Thank you, thank you. This is why I have a girlfriend now, guys. Uh just that alone. Yeah. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. Exactly. Yeah. The bar's fucking low, dudes. Um, so basically, next one, next one. Uh, I also wanted to bring this one from friend of the show, Noah Smith. So

@Noahpinion reaction and dating events

SPEAKER_05 25:01

it's from No Opinion. Uh he says the reason people hate on the SF dating scene is just that SF Tech people have money. Yes, if you post a cringe dating as networking event, people will hate on it. But if you post a video of normal nice couples at dinner, a whole different group of people will hate on it.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

Actually true.

SPEAKER_05 25:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, that's just the vibe.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

I have partaken in hating on the networking dating events. I think they're super, super weird. And I have refused to ever participate in them, even though I get tagged in them a lot. Totally, totally.

SPEAKER_05 25:32

Because one would think, right, if you're if you're, you know, you're you're you're running a dating company, right? A dating app. However, whatever label you want to put on it, you can use the label. I'm not labeling.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

But people can call it whatever they want. Yes. But it just is what it is, right? Like it sets people up on dates. If that's a dating app to you or a matchmaker, or call it like a purple leprechaun if that's what you please. Don't mind if I do.

SPEAKER_05 25:55

That's the purple leprechaun. Uh but basically, like, people would think that oh, like a a layup idea would be to host some sort of like matchmaker or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

Uh we we do have matchmaking events, but they are not networking events. Yes. They are people show up and it's super like seductive and mysterious, and they're given an envelope with a wax seal, and they open it all in unison and they go find their dates, and they are dates. Yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_05 26:21

Like there's like very intentional.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Nobody has like fucking LinkedIn out.

SPEAKER_05 26:27

That could be pretty funny though.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

I mean, I I think I would cry. I think I would cry. Um and people love that. Yes. Like, really, like those events, we'll have like a thousand people RSVP, and like we're literally doing 20 couples at left or like I cannot post you all. I wish I could. Um, but I think it does show how much people really, really want to feel like they're dating in a traditional chivalrous way.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

Um and that's where like I think the the other dating apps really have it wrong. Totally. Which is like, I don't even think like either gender feels good about the like swipe, chat, like small talk ghost cycle. Yeah, yeah. That is really disingenuous. It doesn't have anything to do with who the people are, it has no correlation to in-person chemistry. Yeah. Like, I think people feel yucky about it. Yep. Uh, and it's very out of vogue. Like it's it though, I think there's women who 10 years ago in my generation, even my girlfriends, who would have been on Tinder, and today they're not, because that would be yucky behavior. Yes. Where like it wouldn't have been a decade ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:33

I mean, that was always, I mean, even for me, that was always my opposition to it. I mean, like my opposition, I mean, like, we went went through it right in the beginning, but for me, it's always a filter thing. It's always been a filter thing. Um, and I tend to be much more confident in real life than I am online. Which is a bit weird to say because uh, you know, I have 40,000 followers on Twitter, uh, and I feel still feel way more confident offline than I do online. Um, make of that what you wish.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Um I think that makes total sense. You think so? You think so?

SPEAKER_05 27:59

I mean, I'm just fishing for compliments, so I appreciate that. Thank you, thank you. Fell right into it. Um, okay. So I'm trying to think if I had any other thoughts in regards to the eligibility thing. I mean, my thing is always just like look after oneself, you know.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

How

What would I suggest for the men of SF

SPEAKER_02 28:15

what would you what would you suggest to these men that you you are labeling as ineligible? You are. Yes, I am. What would you suggest? I'll own that. What would you suggest that they do?

SPEAKER_05 28:29

Um, I would suggest that they clean themselves up. I mean, get the like get the bed frame, get the furniture. Like, uh, I do think San Francis and San Francisco has been this way for a very long time. This sort of quasi like college culture, right? I mean, everybody's living with roommates until, you know, in some cases into their 30s. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that, right? I mean, it happens in New York too, like, happens in all of these expensive places, happens in Sydney, damn it. Like, that that's that's a fine thing. It's like all good, everybody has their own proclivities. Um, but you know, I think this this idea of sort of the the degenerate software engineer, right? I do think that's sort of like falling out of style. I mean, I I I I think there's probably a little bit of nihilism now just in regards to the future of work. Will software engineering even exist in a couple of years?

SPEAKER_02 29:15

Do you need to sweat anymore?

SPEAKER_05 29:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Do you actually maybe have time to shower now? Exactly. Exactly. And so, you know, I mean shower while your agent runs. Yeah. Just keep the laptop open.

SPEAKER_05 29:26

Burn the tokens, go have a shower, burn the water bill as well. I mean, like, like use the water that would otherwise be going to your fucking fable. Like, or some shit. Like, you that's fine, actually. That's fine. Um, you know, I've been tweeting out tweeting this thing for a couple of years, right? It's like the only thing that will matter in the future will be like big arms and social skills. Obviously, I'm just trying to talk my own book. I've got to compensate for my height. But like, I do think that that is probably directionally correct, right? The idea that, you know, if we are moving into a sort of like post-AGI world, white-collar work looks very different. I don't tend to believe that that's gonna happen as quickly as people here think. Um, but you probably start valuing things a bit differently. Human relationships are not going away.

unknown 30:09

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

I completely agree with that. And I think that is one of my I am a AI skeptic, and I know that sounds silly as an AI founder, but I am I'm part of the scared people, the people that are afraid of what is going to happen.

SPEAKER_03 30:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

Um, and I think one of the only hopes that I do have is that there's like lifelong studies that they've done at Harvard that show that the people find meaning in their life not from the work that they do and the success that they have, but from the quality of the close relationships that they share with their significant others and their families and their friends.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

And I think, especially in San Francisco, people do not place enough importance on that.

SPEAKER_03 30:46

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

And I'm hoping that if we do shift away from people having to put in massive amounts of their life to labor, that what can fill that void is actually shift towards what's always been important and meaningful to people. Yes. Um but I think that that is maybe naive and overly optimistic.

SPEAKER_05 31:04

I actually don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, I think I think like I I I 100% think that's gonna happen. I also think that the uh, you know, the the future of work in the in the near term actually doesn't look much different to what it is today. Then again, I'm saying these things. I I I have I have takes prepared on these things, damn it. Like I do think that AI researchers fundamentally misunderstand how the economy works and how like people want to buy things from people. But it it is a it is a side tangent to San Francisco dating. Um you know, you just got me going. You got me going. I could just go headfirst down this take.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

But you know, I know I'm seeing it's like the door is open. I'm ready to jump into it too. I have thoughts. Yes, so many thoughts.

SPEAKER_05 31:45

Staying on topic, damn it. Uh, it's my job, it's my job.

SPEAKER_02 31:47

Um But I think we're about to see a really interesting wave with all the IPOs that are happening in San Francisco, where this effect of men who have now made it, it's gonna be really crazy for the dating scene. Totally. Um, and I have a friend for anyone who's watching this, um, who is prepared to help you buy that bed frame. Uh yes.

SPEAKER_04 32:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

No, she really does like a basically a shape up job for tech bros. Yeah, she like furnishes their apartments well, buys them new clothes. Yeah. Super stylish, educated, smart, beautiful lady. Okay. Um, you can reach out to me in the DM if you want her contacts.

SPEAKER_05 32:25

By by all means, by all means. Like, I want these people to win.

SPEAKER_02 32:28

There's like real business there. Yeah. It's like picks and shovels in the gold trash.

SPEAKER_05 32:34

Yeah, picks and shovels in the AIs that's helping helping them buy a bed frame. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

Um, okay, you have like you have the wallet now, like let's now you know furnish you as a man to like have the life that matches it.

SPEAKER_05 32:47

Totally, totally. You know, I think I think that's beautiful. I don't do that. I think that's beautiful. I I don't do it either. I don't do it either. I just get mad at them online. Uh, it's actually far more honorable than to scream online all day. Speaking of screaming online, uh, I should scream about another wonderful mod sponsor, uh, blackbox.ai. Uh I mean spin up all your coding ages in one place, damn it. You can use their CLI, you can use the IDE, uh, you can use clawed code, codecs for different functionalities. In fact, they actually have one particular command called slash auto that designates both codecs and clawed code to the things that they are best at. And that way you don't actually have to think about it. You can join over 30 million plus developers worldwide. You could do this. I mean, you know, like again, I've just got to sell the software to Celeste. Actually, kind of rude of me. But all good. All good. Depends, right? It could be usage-based pricing, otherwise, you know, you can buy their subscriptions.

unknown 33:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 33:43

They could get really mad at me for saying that.

SPEAKER_04 33:47

I love it.

SPEAKER_05 33:48

They didn't tell me to say that, but you know, you can get in touch. You can also get in touch with me. It's totally fine. Black box uh, yeah, check them out. They do push-ups, by the way. The founders, that is.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

Male eligibility.

SPEAKER_05 34:00

Yes, male eligibility. Um, you know, I believe, I believe a couple of- No, I don't think so. Absolute Chads. Anyway, okay, so to

Is SF dating really that bad?

SPEAKER_05 34:12

sort of, I mean to to quasi-wrap, there's actually, I've got a fair, I've got more stuff. There's just like more, it's it's totally fascinating to me, to me. Uh, is SF dating really that bad, right? SF specifically? Because I'm always sort of thinking, okay, um, you know, how is how is SF and the the the troubles of SF dating different to the troubles of dating in New York or dating in any other big city for that matter? Uh what specifically makes SF good or bad for dating?

SPEAKER_02 34:42

I think it is really bad.

SPEAKER_05 34:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:43

I think it's much worse than other cities. Um and you know, we have preliminary data to back that up as we've gone and and done work in in new cities now. Even I was just in San Diego, and I think the the biggest and starkest difference between San Diego and ASAP is just the amount of people that are out of their houses. Like I left San Diego to fly here, and everyone was out in the streets, they're talking, they're carrying their surfboards, they're in groups, drove into San Francisco. It's like a fucking ghost town here. No one is outside. I mean, granted, the fog is here and we have July gloom, but like people are in San Francisco more than any other place, living very solitary lives.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:26

Like, I think I was saying this to you over coffee, but all of the new inventions that we have on our phones is not just social media, but they've like really gotten people to be more solitary than ever before. Like Americans now shop alone, eat alone, unwind alone, watch movies alone. And that's true everywhere, but I think it's even more true in SF, where people are super glued to their laptops because they're coding all the time and they're running their agents and they're working from home and their luxe work from home set up with their sit-stand desk. And if you actually by themselves and getting Waymo's everywhere by themselves instead of using public transport and ordering DoorDash, and like they've they've optimized all of the aspects of their life to be more efficient and more convenient. Yes. But convenience is actually usually at odds with being with the people.

SPEAKER_05 36:13

Totally.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

And if you want to have a lively social life and a lively dating life, you need to be with the people, which means you actually have to be going out in the world and going to the restaurants and going to the bars, and you know, going if you don't go to the bars, going to the gym, versus like versus using your like weird mirror thing. Totally, totally, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:33

At home, gym, walking pad, whatever the hell.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

And I think that's just one piece of it. Yeah. I think there's there's the piece of it where it's I think people really are more solitary in their living style in San Francisco. And then I think there's also the piece of what people care about. And I'm never one to tell people what they should or shouldn't value. Yeah. And I I actually am really empathetic with the way that people whatever I do is good and whatever I don't do is bad. You can you can say it how it is. But when when we look at other cities that we're gonna go to, like a place like Dallas, for example, like people in Dallas, men in Dallas, for example, are looking for women who are sweet and nurturing and women of God and are going to be good mothers.

SPEAKER_01 37:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

In San Francisco, men are looking for women who are as educated as them, as successful as them, are diverse in their life experiences, sometimes even more than they are.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

And they also want someone who's, you know, gonna be a good mother and this and this and that. And I I have like a bit I can do about it where like people will be like, I know, I can't date her. She went to Pepperdine. I went to Northeastern, and she works in tech sales, yeah, and I am a PM at OpenAI.

SPEAKER_05 37:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:56

And you're like, my God.

SPEAKER_05 38:00

I don't think I've ever once asked, like, where's anybody gone to school? Um, you know, I like I went to music school, so like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 38:08

Like, I don't think that people should. Yeah. At a certain point. I mean, I think you should know it to understand what someone's life has been like, but I don't think that that should be one of the qualifying questions when you're dating at 35. Um but I don't think that that is unreasonable. Like, I I actually see why people care about it and you know, we're like ready to meet people where they're at. But I think that in San Francisco, people are looking for more than a chemistry match. Yeah, they're looking for a compatibility and lifestyle match and intellect match and you know, background match, and because they're not placing enough importance on dating, unless it is all of those things, and it's maybe not lucrative enough for them.

SPEAKER_05 38:50

Right, right. Yeah, it's not not worth their time. It's not it's not worth it to uh pause like one of their 20 fable instances, burning 30k a month because they can afford it.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

And so I think that all ends up with people just not going on enough dates. Yeah, okay. I think a lot of people in SF date primarily on hinge and tinder.

SPEAKER_04 39:08

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

And if you were gonna find a partner from going on hinge or tinder dates, I think you would really need to go on probably 20 dates minimum in a year.

SPEAKER_04 39:16

Right.

SPEAKER_02 39:17

And if there's one thing I know about San Francisco, it's that nobody, not even the biggest womanizer in this city is going on like 20, 30 dates in a year. Like it just doesn't happen. Yeah, that's a myth. Um and if you were being set up by your friends, maybe it would be more like a five. But even a lot of people here aren't going on five dates. Yeah. And so I think that we have to figure out a way to have San Francisco be a city that can keep up with. I I made a TikTok about this, or I got tweeted about it. I don't know what I did. I think I tweeted about it.

SPEAKER_05 39:50

Yeah, yeah. Saying, like probably.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

Just saying, like, you know, if we're gonna pay this much for rent, SF better keep up. Like, if I'm gonna pay rent here as if I'm living in New York or LA or worse, then it needs to also be a place where there's a robust scene to be a part of. Totally. Um and I think that San Francisco really needs to figure out how it can have the type of social scene that is aligned with people finding love and finding their partners, and is able to balance that with how hard people work and how intellectual they are. And I think there is a happy balance, but it does mean you have to be going out and meeting people. And I think that that's where known can come in and be strong for this particular type of archetype of person, which I think I am this archetype of person. Like I am the person that doesn't go on the dates and it's too picky and doesn't think that people, you know, are lucrative enough because they haven't checked all of the boxes. And I think that known is able to try and understand who people are and meet them where they're at and find them someone who checks enough of it to be interesting and explain to them why they're interesting and make it not convenient but plausible that you actually meet them. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 40:58

That makes sense. That makes sense. I mean, the you know, the the short answer is go outside, damn it. Go outside of the house.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

Go watch the women at the park.

SPEAKER_05 41:08

Put on the meta braid bands, turn on the retina. I'm kidding, please don't do that. Absolutely don't do that. Um, my case officer, I think, is waiting outside the door. I was wondering who that was. Either that or ice. People have been calling ice on me uh because you know I'm Australian. I can buy people do that. Yeah, I mean it happens, it's fine. It's all good. Um, okay, so on

@paularambles reaction

SPEAKER_05 41:27

this, I think Paula had a tweet because Paula has a tweet about everything. Um one of the greatest posters of our generation. Uh, she says, dating in SF, you mean ABG testing. Um, I actually don't know why I brought that up uh in that specific moment. I just thought it was funny. Any comments on the Wamath couples? Kidding.

SPEAKER_00 41:47

I think I can say, like, I don't know if I want to say this.

SPEAKER_02 41:51

You don't have to say that. I have a really funny story. You can tell me and I have a really funny story about dating in the Oh my god. It's okay. Can I tell you off the record and you won't put it in the podcast?

SPEAKER_05 42:02

I mean, you can. I mean, tell me afterwards. I'll tell you afterwards. Tell me afterwards because I don't like making cuts. Um, I will if I have to. It's all good, it's all good. Um what I can actually do instead.

unknown 42:11

Terrifying.

SPEAKER_05 42:13

We'll see. We'll see. You know, one of my one of my greatest.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

I'll edit it for you. Yeah, you can. I have Cat Cut. Yeah, really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 42:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need to, we need to arm, we need to arm all the girlies with Cat Cut. I mean, I think actually, speaking of, well, I was gonna say speaking of which, it's not speaking of which at all, but Cappy.ai. Agentic IDE. It's actually not related at all. But basically, um, agentic IDE, it is actually building itself, is what the Cappy guys actually tell me, and they have their non-technicals making pull requests to it via Slack. Sounds fucking terrifying. Um, but they're absolutely cracked. You should go and check them out. Uh use them as your IDE. They're actually pretty damn cool. They're actually pretty damn cool. Um, you know, like the way that I do ads on mods is like usually people do advertising, is like an Imaslow's hierarchy of needs. I generally just call my audience fucking idiots if they don't buy the thing. It's actually proven to be pretty effective.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

So that's what the traditional matchmakers do. I when I started the company, I wanted to know like how do you get the people to go on the dates? Yeah. And I was trying to ask them, they're super cagey too. They're like super shifty, don't want to give away their trade secrets. And basically they're like, well, I just tell them, look, you paid me a hundred grand. If you had this figure it out yourself, you wouldn't fucking have hired me. So he wouldn't have hired me. So well go on the date.

SPEAKER_03 43:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:32

We don't we don't take that approach. Okay, okay. We haven't been able to mimic that one yet.

SPEAKER_05 43:37

Okay, well, I mean, you know, if you need it, if you need any help doing the ad reach, just let me know because I feel like I've gotten that, I've got a I've gotten a solid grasp of them now of calling um empathic with it.

unknown 43:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:47

Obnoxious might be another word for it too. I would never say that. That's okay, I'm saying it. I'm saying it for you. Okay, the last thing, the last thing, and I think it's that this is an easy, uh, it's an easy layup to end on a high note. Because, you know, I spend a lot of time making fun of things in France Francisco. I've fucking lost it. San Francisco. Making fun of things in San Francisco, poking fun. I think we as a people in San Francisco, especially those of us that are adjacent or even in technology, we oftentimes sit on our high horse, and we have not been the underdogs for plenty of years now, but there's a reason that I've been here for nine years, and that's because I love the damn place and I love the damn culture. I would not be documenting the culture if I did it. So

Best places to meet your wife/husband in SF

SPEAKER_05 44:30

to end on maybe a more lighthearted note, best places to meet your wife or husband in San Francisco. Any particular thoughts off the top of your head?

SPEAKER_02 44:39

I do have some thoughts. Yeah. I think that any run club, I know that that's really trite, but they really are great places to meet people because the new people move go the new people that moved to SF go to them and they're looking to meet people. I think Bar Omley on a Saturday night. Yeah, Saturday.

SPEAKER_05 44:59

It's usually pretty packed on a Saturday though, night.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

I I know. And people are really chatting.

SPEAKER_05 45:04

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

I did investigative journalism on this one. I went behind the scenes, and I actually think that is the most flirtatious bar in the city. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 45:13

Did you have the Mediterranean zone with a red line?

SPEAKER_02 45:15

I can't tell you that.

SPEAKER_05 45:17

My legal thing is advising not to comment.

SPEAKER_02 45:19

I'm not allowed to comment on the other places. I think that any gym that is like a step above a 24-fitness fit. Any gym is like a step above like a 24-hour fitness. Like I actually do think that meeting someone at the gym isn't as weird as people make it out to be. I also have thoughts on first date spots. Yes. I have more thoughts on that. I think that, I mean, as we've talked about it, it's kind of quite hard to meet someone in person in San Francisco. Yeah. Places I wouldn't recommend meeting somebody. Actually, I can't say that either.

SPEAKER_05 45:55

Um legal thing is all over the internet.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

PR training is running in the background. That's good, that's good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:01

Um mine is not.

SPEAKER_02 46:04

But do you have a good first aid spot that you take used to take people? Or that you take your girlfriend now. Um don't go.

SPEAKER_05 46:14

I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. I mean, yeah, I mean, we we sort of did it slightly untraditionally. Um I would actually, I would never go to the same place twice. Um I I'm now that I think about it, like there was no, there was no place that I went to super often. Um, you know, like like from even from relationships that I've had in the city in the past, for example, uh Armano in Hayes Valley is always very safe. Uh like it's like, you know, it's not not gonna break the bank, it's great food, and the settings actually quite nice. You just can't book there. Uh so you know, if you try and go there on a weekend, you know, you might you might do the awkward little waiting game. So um, but you know, as a as a first, if you as a first date, if you get a table, like I think the settings really nice. Um you know, if you're if you're one for for dinners first, um, which you know I've always preferred actually.

SPEAKER_02 47:06

You like dinner? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:07

I don't do I don't do I don't like uh drinks.

SPEAKER_02 47:12

I think that people should should abolish the coffee date. This is too networky of a SET to be doing coffee.

SPEAKER_05 47:17

Totally, totally.

SPEAKER_02 47:18

Unless, I mean, I would I would say uh yes, but uh, can start autopiloting like your spiel on yourself.

SPEAKER_05 47:24

Well, yeah, I mean I also think like I don't know that there's something something about effort uh you know it is like it is it is extremely low effort. Uh I don't know. Like the the the coffee thing a lot of women prefer it.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

Like it comes from the women most of the time who are interested in coffee too. They think it's like a lower pressure way to meet someone without it being maybe sexually charged. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:46

Well that that part that part definitely makes sense. I yeah, I do think in this city it's like where people don't exactly have a habit of being direct. Um like it's so it's so funny. Like you can you can literally just say that it's a date and then the

What is a pre-date?

SPEAKER_05 47:58

other person can just say yes or no. Fucking rocket science.

SPEAKER_02 48:01

But in SF, people do the pre-date. Are you familiar with the predate?

SPEAKER_05 48:05

Where you you don't know whether it's a date or a networking act?

SPEAKER_02 48:07

Well, because everyone's you know friend groups are so intertwined, it's like if you know someone and you kind of want to date them, you have to ask them out on what's uh convincibly a predate. It's not necessarily a date, but then once you both get there, you can kind of feel out whether you'd both like it to be a date, and if you'd like it to be a date, then you can go on a real date the next time.

SPEAKER_04 48:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

But in order for it to be considered a real date, it has to meet the following criteria. It has to be a man and a woman meet after dark at a preordained place at a preordained time. Wow. So if it's coffee, it's safe because it's basically a predate.

SPEAKER_05 48:42

Totally, totally. I guess I've never thought of it like that. I guess I've never thought of it like that. There really are. There really is. Fuck. I've had my head in the sand, damn it. I don't know shit about fuck. But it's it's good to know. It's good to know. And I think, and and it definitely makes sense. Definitely makes sense. You know, you the last thing like like San Francisco is such a small place where everybody knows everybody. And so I think that's it actually makes a lot of sense to me. Like, I've just never heard it called that before. Well, I'm learning so many things. Learning so many things.

SPEAKER_03 49:11

I didn't come up with that. A friend of mine did.

SPEAKER_05 49:14

You could have owned it and I would have believed you. That would have been totally fine.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

I have to be intellectually honest. Yay.

SPEAKER_05 49:19

We appreciate this. We appreciate this. Um, you know, I think I think that pretty much does it. I mean, I I gotta give one more shout out to a company because that's my job. Um so I will do it. Oh, so glad you asked. Circleback.ai. Circleback.ai. Your company brain making meetings fun. Again, they transcribe the entire meeting. You can use the either the desktop app or the or the iOS app or all these sorts of things. Doesn't really matter how you use it. Um, but the idea is that it transcribes it and you can actually it actually allows you to set up automations afterwards. So I actually use it uh whenever I'm in uh video calls. My circle back will join, or if I'm using the desktop app, it just like records it for me, and of course it lets everybody know. Let's everybody know. Uh, but then it goes and actually drafts my follow-up email for me, if that's what it needs to do. It can also just connect to your Slack, Yinalinea, all these sorts of things. Um they're pretty damn cool. They're pretty damn cool. I mean, you have to be cool to work with me because mods only have a happy customer, happy customer. Um, so there is that. I believe um I was gonna say something and I forget. Fucking absolutely lost at W Podcaster. But anyway, so back to yeah, you can go ahead and check them out. Um I think on that note, I mean, any closing thoughts that you think we may have missed,

Pitching a friend

SPEAKER_05 50:38

the answer to that could also be no. I have none. I have no more thoughts left.

SPEAKER_02 50:41

Do you have a single friend that needs to be set up?

SPEAKER_05 50:44

Um that needs to be set up? Yeah, I would say so. Pitch them to me. I'll pitch them to you? Yeah. Let me see, let me see. I'm gonna go with probably who I think is the most eligible of them all. I won't, I won't, I won't say their name, um, but you know, if he is listening, he'll probably know who it is. Um the first thing that I was gonna say is very revealing about him, and people would clock him, so I'm not gonna say that. Um basically runs a startup. Uh he is also Australian. And, you know, I think he's got a he's got a he's got a he's he's I think he's looking to settle down. Uh very, like I would say he's, you know, as a as a straight man, he's a very, very good looking dude. I'd say he's 5'11. 5'11. Um, extremely driven. Like he will not quit his startup. In fact, and that's why I know it's gonna work. Uh extremely driven, uh, just incredible banter, incredible banter, and I know that he looks for that, right, in somebody else, being somebody just being able to banter, right? Almost like make fun of him, does not take himself too seriously. Um, I would say that he is, you know, off the top of my head, probably, you know, the most eligible bachelor in my mind. Um I would say. I would say.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

Well, if any ladies are watching this, you can hit up Jada and do set up with his friend.

SPEAKER_05 52:07

Don't mind if I do. I I mean I'd be I'd be I'd be happy to do so.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

I'm gonna get him on known. Yeah, yeah. Maybe he's already on there.

SPEAKER_05 52:15

He might be. Fuck, he's he's he's trying them all. He does very, very well. I mean, I say he's trying them all, but he does very, very well. Yeah, yeah, I will. I'm happy to give it away. Happy to give it away. Um, I think on that note, on that note, you've been listening to another episode of Members of Technical Staff. We'll go ahead and see you on the timeline again real soon. Oh, I love it. Okay, so naturally I can't have fun without making the bag. So this is a shout out to superpower.com. Get the care that billionaires get for less than $200 a year. You're thinking blood tests. They send nurses to your home, and of course, you can get your blood test diagnostics, get your software checked, you can get your thyroid check, all of these sorts of things, they do it in one particular test. That's a good thing. You can actually do it on their private software. And you know, you gotta be on the lookout, right? I mean, if RFK gets away with that reclassification, they have some things coming your way in the next few months. Superpower.com.com.

SPEAKER_01 53:14

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