Ruth 1 & 2

Sir Captain Deacon Brian the Red, lol, and friends. I mean the friends. Start in Ruth with Brother Rob and a cast come to join in. If you haven't heard the skit of Ruth and Boaz go check it out. Then join us in Chapter 1 & 2 of Ruth.

Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:48

It's great that you brought that up because there are names that you are not allowed to paint on. Yeah. There's a lot of them. Judas is one of them. Not too many Judas is floating around. No, well, you know. That one's kind of painted forever. So that one and uh Jezebel. That's one you can't do too.

SPEAKER_05 1:09

We talked about it in our 139 Bible study. I think that Jezebel. Um, I painted Jezebel. We don't speak at the same time.

SPEAKER_07 1:23

Um we have to be vigilant and we have to have our armor and don't get into those situations.

SPEAKER_06 1:31

So you have to be very vigilant when you're out there today. A lot of false teaching, like a lot of a lot of uh, all right.

SPEAKER_07 2:17

We are here with uh Faith from the Streets. We've got uh Brother Rob with us today. He wants to speak on Ruth. So we'll be looking at Ruth uh just to kind of speak about what's been going on with us here in our little town. Um we had a baptism again last week, which was awesome. Um that's turned into kind of like a family thing. Everybody in the family seems to be getting baptized. Uh we had the Miamisburg Riverfront Revival uh last night. It was over the weekend. We it was the first time last year, second time this year, which is fantastic. Plenty of different uh organizations out there, uh ministries. I know of at least four baptisms that I've seen. One of them was one of our gathering community that we have been working with and working on. Uh we're so proud of him to get it done. Um, it was an amazing event. Glad that we were a part of it and be able to see those things. Um we are still working on Sir Brian and his recordings. Hopefully, uh, when this all comes about, we'll all be able to download the game or play the game and hear Sir Captain Sir Brian the Red lights. Captain Sir Brian the Red. The pirate name. Pirate name for Brian. Yeah, he's getting he gets he keeps getting better on this. But I was called Steve today. Oh no I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! I don't want to be uh wrong as Steve the Third. Yes, yes, so we've got to watch out for that.

SPEAKER_01 3:59

Nothing wrong with the name Steve. We just Yes, we have a preference. We have a particular person that we're referring to, and it it's we're just trying to make sure we don't you know offend anybody.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Oh no, no, no, he's a his official, his whole official name, so that I'm not trying to offend anybody. Try. If if somebody is actually named Wrongest Steve the Third, I mean I I've already said I apologize. But but but we we've we have tried. So so this would have to be the third in a line of wrongest Steves with the last name Steve. So so that's that's what we're aiming for.

SPEAKER_07 4:31

So I mean it's possible. It's a big place, and there's a lot of people out there.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

I'm gonna, yeah. I'm just trying to figure out where the wrongest would originate from. Oh, that's valid.

SPEAKER_07 4:48

Yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Like what nationality would wrongs come from? I think Roman. That's what I had in my head. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

I'm gonna say that's probably not in the top ten list of children's names and maybe the lemons.

SPEAKER_07 5:06

It's it's great that you brought that up because there are names that you are not allowed to name children. Truthful. Yes. There's a lot of them. And I think Judas is one of them.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

If I'm not mistaken, too many Judas is floating around.

SPEAKER_07 5:20

No, no, well, you know. That one's kind of tainted forever.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

So that one, that one, and uh Jezebel's not another one.

SPEAKER_07 5:26

I think that's one you can't do too.

SPEAKER_05 5:28

We talked about it in our Thursday night Bible study. But I've not I've met Jezebel's. Uh-huh. Well, I've dated Jezebel's. We're not speaking in the same terms. No, no, no, we're not.

SPEAKER_07 5:39

I apologize. That was terrible. Um, but we have to be vigilant and we have to have our armor of God on that we don't get into those situations anymore. Yes. So, yes, be be very vigilant when you're out there in in this world today. There's a lot of false teaching going on, a lot of wrongest thieves the third in charge of places. That's good. That's true. So we'll have to watch out for that. Um, do you want to read Ruth? And then we can talk about it. Okay. And again, Sir Brian Reeds from uh the Legacy. Legacy standard. You stand.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

The official Irish translation of the Bible.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Ireland just called and they said they don't endorse it. Exactly. All right, here we are. No. No, it happened in those days when the judges judged that there was a famine in the land, and a certain man of Bethlehem in Judah went to sojourn in the field to Moab with his wife and his two sons. The name of the man was Emilek. And the name of his wife, Naomi. And the names of his two sons were Malon and Julian. Ephrates of Bethlehem in Judah. No. They came to the field of Moab and remained there. Then Emilac, Naomi's husband, died, and she was left with her two sons. They took for themselves Moabite women as wives. The name of the one was Orpah. And the name of the other was Ruth. And they lived there about ten years. Then both Marlon and Chillion also died. And the woman was left without her two children and her husband.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

So stop right there, Brian. So there's an important in in this so I've been watching a new series. Um podcast I've been listening to because I've been kind of deep diving into the Hebrew and the Greek language. And so this is, if you're familiar with the book of Ruth at all, if you're not, we'll kind of talk through that. But the book of Ruth is really the only book of the Bible that really doesn't mention God specifically in its scripture. But it's one of the most interesting stories in the Bible as far as how it plays, how the how the story plays out, and how Ruth will eventually be a part of Jesus' lineage. So it's in verse 4 specifically. So it says, Her sons took Moabite women as their wives. So if you flip back to Deuteronomy chapter 23, verse 3, you'll see in that scripture, and I'm turning there now, it says in the Pericabes, which is the fancy title for heading in between the sections, it's exclusion and inclusion, basically in the Hebrew world at this time. In verse 3 says, No Ammonite or Moabite may enter the Lord's assembly. None of their descendants, even to the tenth generation, may even enter the Lord's assembly. So here we have Orpa and Ruth, who are Moabite women, who, according to Hebrew law, were not supposed to be there. Not supposed to be in the Lord's Assembly by being one of the people groups that were in Israel at the time, even to the tenth generation. That tenth generation is translated from what I've read as forever.

SPEAKER_07 10:12

Yeah, I'm looking at my notes and it definitely was discouraged. It says, probably not forbidden since the Moabites lived outside the promised land. But marrying a Canaanite, peoples living within the borders, promised land, however, was against God's law. Moabites were not allowed to worship at the tabernacle because they had not let the Israelites pass through their land during the Exodus from Egypt. Now, is that when they says they try to go through there and they say no, and so they go around it? Yes. Okay, I remember that story now, thinking about that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Um yeah, because in every land it seemed when they were doing the exodus, every land that they went through and ultimately end up getting attacked. Or the Israelites attacked them, and so they were like, we've heard enough about your stories of conquest and destroying things. So if you could kindly go around, that would be awesome.

SPEAKER_07 11:07

And it's interesting that and it God, I love scripture. I love breaking it down, I love looking at it. I want to make sure that we we realize and we say that when Israel came in and conquered, it wasn't the Israelite people because they were not allowed to have a standing army. Correct. It was God sending his angels to do it for them. There was some cleanup for the Israelites to do, but it wasn't them doing it because they weren't allowed to have a standing army. But also, this is a situation that is a foreshadowing because instead of God sending them in and destroying them, they went around because God knew that he was going to use Ruth later on, who was a Moabite woman, to bring the lineage of Jesus in. So most of the time there was no, will you go around us? It was we're still going through you anyway.

SPEAKER_03 12:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 12:03

But this is a situation where God knows what he's doing, and he knows about Ruth, so he saves the Moabites from being taken over by the Israelites.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

And even so much as that, as Brian read in verse 1, there's a famine everywhere except for Moab. That's going on. So that's why they end up going to this land because they have food. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 12:28

Yeah. God love scripture. Just reading it and and and is great, but when you can sit and round table discuss it and know some of the history and have read the other stuff first, but to be able to go back and really and I think Scott, Pastor Scott has said this, let the Bible read you. And that's one of the things I think that we're getting really good at doing here with the podcast is letting the Bible read us.

SPEAKER_00 12:57

But again, too, in in those Bible studies, uh we have that all that understanding from Proverbs uh iron sharpens iron.

SPEAKER_04 13:10

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Correct. Uh and and I find myself too listening to the understandings of others and going, wait a second, I hadn't considered that fact. And there it is. And then there it is. And that's the sharpening of it. So do yourselves a favor, go join a Bible study, listen to this Bible study. Yes.

SPEAKER_07 13:29

Yes. One of the things that I got from our prayer weekend that we had at our other building, it was after we had gone to the Kentucky revival that they had. Yeah, they had uh what two weeks, three weeks, it was a long period.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Yeah, it was a long time.

SPEAKER_07 13:43

And we actually got to go to the very last day. Uh and we decided to do our own kind of uh 24-hour prayer thing at our old building. And a buddy of mine, he had come up to sit with me on a midnight shift. And I was showing him around and we were talking, and uh we went through Scott's office and he saw a book. And if you know my history and you know my buddies, this fits so well with everything, he said, read that book for me and give me the cliff notes. And I did. I I read the book and I did the cliff notes because this was a uh a friend that I've been friends with since I can't remember, and I kind of let them steer me and and groom me, really, um, as I was growing up. And after reading that book, one of the things that I got from it was how important it is to have these individual Bible studies, to have a group of men, women, whatever get together and read the Bible together and talk about it and discuss how important it was for us to grow in the Iron Sharpeners uh uh scenario there. Um and ever since that, I I'm in a Bible study almost every night. Since that particular time. You know, and it's been wonderful and fantastic, so many things have grown from it. My circle of people have been exponentially growing and getting more and more awesome, and I've learned so much. And even I said it to I think uh one of our ladies last night that at the revival in Miamisburg, I could look at either side of where I was at, and I had I I knew the majority of the people around me because I have been going out and making those connections and talking to people and bringing everybody together. Actually, God has sent me to do those things. I've never met a stranger, and now I understand why. You know, and we've talked about this a lot in our in our podcast. Being able to walk in your purpose. You know, I lived a life where I didn't know what my purpose was. I tried to be a people pleaser, trying to help and just be like, like I said, my buddy said, read that for me and give me the clip notes. That sums up my life. I had friends that were close that would I would do things to please them and to make them like me, or try to make me feel worthy of their love, which how many people are we have right now that fight with that exact thing? Agreed. You know, they they don't feel worthy, they feel like they have to clean up before they take a shower, or clean up before they come to God, or let me get rid of this sin or that sin before I give my life to Jesus. And that's never been the case. It's never been the case. It's always been He loves you right where you're at, He loves you in your mess.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

It's true, but it's it's the beginning of the baffling statement that you're forgiven. Right? So a lot a lot of a lot of times uh I I see people engaging with it, and like you said, they they think that they need to come perfect to it. And that's not the answer. And then uh that once you do all the steps, you you you go and and you get baptized and everything else, like a switch, it'll be turned on. I'll I'll be I'll be it'll be uh righteously activated, you know? And I like that. And that's and it's not that's not that's not the means of it either. So so what is it in fact? And uh a lot of people struggling with that. Um and I think we've touched on it a few times. Yeah. So uh but um yeah. The Lord's doing work within you. That's that's that's how it that's how it gets done. So what that looks like at the end of the journey, so long as you're staying with it and and you're abiding, and and the Bible tells you how to be a decent person. That's uh good nice. That is that is that is that has been so impactful to me. Because because uh I'm I'm just like, cool, I I like I so I I had a different upbringing. I had uh uh I was raised with a code and it was vaguely Christian. Um so that so that uh the things that I would I would follow I didn't know were uh Christian in origin, but um all my things, everything in life I would test against the code. Can I should I do this? Well, my code says this, so yes or no? Yeah, and then uh so that was that was it was interesting. Uh but multiple points in my life I thought I had it all figured out. I was like, this is it. I this this is my understanding, this is it, that I have it figured out now. And then uh God showing me, but not just showing me like um do this because God says so, and if you don't, he's gonna be very angry with you. No, if you actually read it and and you get in the context of it, and and especially in environments like this too, you could see why he says it. So you're just like, oh, okay, so alright, so that's that's the main origin of the thing. Um and I do it because and over here in this passage he says that if I do this, and you you you toss it all together, and it makes so much sense. Uh uh I I enjoy uh the sorry, the uh the instructions before leaving Earth. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sorry, the Bible. Basic instructions before leaving Earth. That's it, that's the acronym for Bible, yes. Yeah, yeah. I do like that uh as a as a um just altogether.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

So I was just saying, anybody struggling, one of the best things that I had heard is in if you go to Romans chapter 12, read verses 1 through 1 and 2 basically, uh, where it talks about being a living sacrifice and what that exactly means. And I want you to read the best way this was described to me when I read this is read it in caterpillar language. In caterpillar, what's that? So read it like you're a caterpillar.

SPEAKER_07 20:50

Very slow.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Read it like a caterpillar language. So what does a caterpillar go through to become a butterfly?

SPEAKER_00 20:57

Good to know.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

Metamorphosis. Okay. In that pupa state when so the caterpillar is born, it eats everything in sight, gets itself ready, goes into its chrysalis, and I didn't know, but inside of that chrysalis, the caterpillar dissolves and becomes a butterfly. I'd never heard that before. I just thought that the caterpillar kind of died to itself and then resurrected into another, like the caterpillar body with wings kind of a deal. But I looked at it that way and I was like, wow, Romans 12, 1 and 2 makes complete sense if you read it in that language, that understanding. Because the way that in the way that it was explained is the the reason why we fail to change in our growth is that from a Western thinking philosophy, so the first thing we do is we identify. Identify the bad behavior. So we identify whatever struggle we're whatever sin we're struggling with. We feel really crappy about it. Because we're struggling with that. And so we come to a decision where I'm just gonna stop doing it altogether. Like, I'm just you you that's your mindset. Like, okay, I'm not gonna do this anymore. And then you try really, really hard, because if you've been a human being for any period of time, Satan will figure that out. Like he's alone. Let's see if I can get that thought to pop back in his head to see if I can get him to do something again.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

But with man, it may not be possible. Right. Yes. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

That's the problem is that our philosophy, the Western world's philosophy, is I can fix myself. I don't need help.

SPEAKER_07 22:58

No, you can't tell me what to do. Not only do we not need help, but men are terrible at that. Yeah. Yeah. We see it as a sign of weakness, and we won't get the help that we do honestly need. And again, we've said it with Proverbs, and I was talking to the brothers at Barn Raisers the other day about this. We men need to step up and figure these things out. It's not the women's fault, it's not the women's job to fix us or to complete us or whatever it is you think. It's up to us men to step up and be the men that we were called to be. And that means to be strong, but it also means to be vulnerable, to deal with our emotions appropriately. Stop bottling all this stuff up inside and thinking that you can so that's interesting you say that.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

So I'm I'll tell a personal story about what you just described. The first time I ever saw my dad cry was at my grandfather's funeral. And by cry I mean sob. Yes. Like we were all quiet. They were, he was a military veteran, so they were there doing folding the flag, um, giving it to the family. Um and as they started to play taps, my dad audibly wailed. Audibly. Like I knew that was my dad doing that and not any of the other uncles in that or any of the other men in that that situation. And from that, my grandfather's generation, they they they were hardened. Oh, absolutely. They didn't show any emotion. Nope. I I don't think my dad, in talking to my dad, I don't think my and I'm not gonna say never, because I don't think that that that's true, but he rarely heard my grandfather tell him he loved him.

SPEAKER_06 25:05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

And after my grandpa died, every time I talk to my dad and every time I get off the phone with him, we always tell each other we love him, we love each other. Because he didn't want to repeat the same actions that he went through with his dad to do that stuff, and I think that's the vulnerability part of it. Yeah, I am.

SPEAKER_07 25:28

And I completely get it because when dad started saying I love you to me, I'm gonna use the modern terminology. It gave me the ick. To hear dad say I love you, it was like it's cool if mom does it. Well, yeah, you expect mom to do it, but when dad would do it, it gave me the ick. But then it it when we said it in the podcast, say it so much that it's awkward, but then it becomes automatic. Instead of being awkward or being the ick or whatever, you know, and it it it's such a change. It's uh yeah, exactly. Men, my dad, you know, we could probably all tell stories of when our larger than life, stronger than stone, father or grandfather cried.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

It's important to note as well, too, that uh that while we're exploring a full scope of our our our feelings and uh is that um there is uh tipping point as well too where where uh everyday life becomes um too much because you're too incensed. So uh you're too sensitive. Um so what does the what does the overall measure look like? Because again, we're trying to be that meek individual.

SPEAKER_07 27:02

My brain was going meekness that control strength. We have to again we we have to be strong still, even in um our weakness, but again, we have to know when the time is to be strong and when to be soft.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

But there are times.

SPEAKER_07 27:24

There are times when we stand up, we step up, and we take on the weight of the world, because that's what we're called to do, and we need to do it for our families and for our loved ones. Yes. But we also need to be able to have some kind of an outlet where we can deal with those emotions, and that's what I liked about the Barn Raisers Group. And I'm wanting to do something similar here with our our congregation, with our community, figure out a way to. And you started this, Rob, with the whole uh being better disciple makers. We've got so many young men that are starting families or are fresh Christians, we need to give them that place. Oh, agreed. We need to start like I want to do like a I don't even know what this like a barn raisers, but do it for our community here. The ones that don't have the ability to go out or have that connection with other men. Right. You know, so uh it it and just one last thing before we read on, because again, God, oh, he is so dude, he is so awesome. It's just you like I used to be in awe of the times that the pastor would be preaching, and it's exactly what I need to hear. It's like he was a fly on the wall in my my life for the whole week. The pastor last night at the revival was talking about power. Where's the power? And first thing our brother Lewis said today was power from the source. I was like, oh power from the source. Power from the source, and he was talking about where the power was last night, and I was just like, God, you are so cool. But then just now when you said Romans 12, 1 through 2, I was like, you're kidding me. First of all, Romans already gives me the you know, makes me excited. But when you said 12-1, the pastor last night said, there's always, if you're in a recovery situation, if you're in a restorative situation, if you have turned your life around, we all have that one verse that we all know by heart that changed everything for us. And a gentleman that was up in the third row came down and spoke Romans 12.1 through 2. And that was when the pastor said, if we had aisles right now, I'd be running down the aisles. But it was outside, so there were no aisles. But yeah, again, power last night, Romans 12, 1 through 2. Popping up again today. It just, man, if you don't see God working, you are just not looking. You don't let your eyes open.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

Not looking hard enough.

SPEAKER_07 30:02

No, you are not. Let's go ahead and keep reading there, Mr. or Sir Captain Brian.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

Give me all these titles. All right, so uh verse six. And then she arose with her daughters-in-law and returned from the fields of Moab. If she had heard in the fields of Moab that Yahweh had visited his people to give them food. I think I misread that, I'm sorry. For she had heard in the fields of Moab that Yahweh had visited his people to give them food. So she went forth from the place where she was, and her two daughters-in-law with her, and they went on the way to return to the land of Judah. And Naomi said to her two daughters-in-law, go return, each of you, to her mother's house. May Yahweh show loving kindness with you, as you have shown with the dead and with me. May Yahweh grant that you may find rest, each in the house of her husband. And then she kissed him, and they lifted up their voices and wept. And they said to her, No, but we will return with you to your people. But Naomi said, Return, my daughters. Why should you go with me? Have I yet sons in my womb, and they may be your husband? Return, my daughters. Go, for I am too old to have a husband. If I said I have hope, if I should even have a husband tonight, and also their sons, would you therefore wait until they were grown? Would you therefore refrain from marrying? No, my daughters. For it is more bitter for me than for you. For the hand of Yahweh has gone forth against me. And they lifted up their voices and wept again. And Ottawa kissed her mother-in-law. But Ruth clung to her, and then she said, Behold, your sister-in-law has returned to her people and her gods. Return after your sister-in-law. But Ruth said, Do not press me to forsake you in turning back from following you. For where you go, I will go, and where you lodge, I will lodge. Your people shall be my people, and your God my God. Where you die, I will die, and there I will be buried. Thus may Yahweh do to me, and more, if anything but death separates you and me. So she saw that she was determined to go with her, and she said, No more to her. Then they both went until they came to Bethlehem. Now it happened, when they had come to Bethlehem, all the city was stirred because of them. And the woman said, Is this Naomi? She said to them, Do not call me Naomi, call me Mara, for the Almighty has dealt very bitterly with me. I went out fool, but Yahweh has caused me to return empty. Why do you call me Naomi? Yahweh has answered against me, and the Almighty has brought calamity against me. So Naomi returned with her Ruth, the Moabite S, her daughter-in-law, who returned from the fields of Moab. Now they came to Bethlehem at the beginning of Barley harvest.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

God will get your attention at something at the page. So verse 8, it says, Naomi said to them, Each of you may go back to your mother's home. And I was like, this is a male-dominated culture. So why would the writer of the book of Ruth tell them to go back to their mother's house? So that started me down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out why mother's house was was used there. And what I came, the conclusion I came to is that the the culture at the time, so it said the most practical path to remarriage and security in ancient times was for a daughter to go back to their mother's house. And I was like, that's kind of interesting because a lot of what we read we don't get from a woman's perspective. It's all male dominated in this in this culture. And I'm like, why would they go back to their mother's house? Why would why would Naomi send them back to their mother's house? And after reading that, I was like, okay, that makes sense that they would go back to their mother's house because then they would have that that familiar relationship with their mom in order to kind of start their life over again to be remarried.

SPEAKER_07 36:25

Like babies, babies returning to the mothers.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Yeah. I mean, there's there's there's that idea too, but I've also heard it as well, too, like uh where a woman of age to marry still lives with mom and dad, perhaps. And the mom's generally like, well, I mean, I've got a daughter at home. You seem like a really good man. There you see, and that's and that's it. Like you should meet my daughter. Yes, of course. Makes perfect sense. And and that's what happens today. So I imagine it was back then as well, too.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

So that makes that makes perfect sense to what I read on why that they would do that, because then that way the mother would be like, hey, I've got a daughter at home.

SPEAKER_00 37:08

Absolutely. You seem like a nice lad.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Let's this is what happened, and I just see those winning bells.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

Listen, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 37:16

Yeah. I mean, our culture today, we see that a lot too. You know, it's like you said the mother's like, hey, I got a daughter, she's like a good fella, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And and and I'm glad you said that too, because I want to go back to where she says about having a husband herself and having sons again, because we know from our studies that that was the the culture. The if the husband died and he had a brother, it was on him to be the redeemer.

SPEAKER_01 37:49

Yeah, and that's where we'll see as we get into the chapter. Yeah, yeah. Where Boaz will become a familiar name that we'll see.

SPEAKER_07 37:59

Um he does the right thing, but there's no one for him to go to. Or it's his brothers he goes to, isn't it? We'll get to that.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

He goes to the other redeemer who's a closer than he would be.

SPEAKER_07 38:09

Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 38:10

Um, and that's it it's just interesting that that that's how it was back then. Like if if the husband died and he had a brother, he was to take her.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

Yeah, and we've talked about it in other groups, and I'm not sure if you guys have talked about it in the podcast, but we've talked about the idea of like a family name.

SPEAKER_06 38:27

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

It's huge in this culture. Yes. Like the reason that Naomi sends Orpa and Ruth away is because she has nothing to go back to.

SPEAKER_03 38:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 38:40

She's there's nothing. There's literally nothing that she can go back to. Right. Because she has no husband, she has no male heirs, nothing. So she's like, please go back to your families. At least you have a family to go back to. I don't have a family at this point. Like, please. And that's when you see Orpah's like, okay, maybe I should go. And Ruth's like, you know what, I'm gonna hang this out. I think there's something like she must have had a really good relationship with Naomi to do that.

SPEAKER_07 39:18

That yeah, that makes me wonder where was the relationship at and what order of daughter son was we looking at here. Like, was it the firstborn son that Ruth was married to? Was it the secondborn son? Yeah, we're there that doesn't give us any context. Yeah, we're not yeah, but it is interesting that Ruth sticks around. Like it's like she understands that she doesn't have anything to go home to. Well, neither does Ruth at this point, other than her own family.

SPEAKER_03 39:43

Right.

SPEAKER_07 39:43

But she was so dedicated to Naomi and to the husband that yeah, I mean, yeah, it it's it's just a fascinating story. And if you don't know the culture and the history of the thing, I can see where all this would be like, what in the world's going on?

SPEAKER_01 39:57

The the kinsman redeemer will make absolutely no sense to you unless you know if you don't understand what's going on in that context.

SPEAKER_07 40:04

Uh was it Galilee that did the Jewishness of Jesus? Yeah. And reading that and knowing that, and how many people probably even today are like, What? Yeah, I mean, this all comes from Judaism or Jewish, so it would have been in the same line of everything that was going on. And if you don't understand that culture, then a lot of the Old Testament is going to be for lack of a better word, Greek to you.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

So one of the one of the funny things, um, so the reply that Ruth gives in verses 16 and 17. The first time I heard that spoken was at my youngest sister's wedding. So my father-in-law married my brother-in-law and my sister.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

Okay. So he's up there presiding over the ceremony, and he quotes Ruth chapter 1, verses 16 and 17. And as he's doing this, he says it says, wherever you go, I will go, and wherever you live, I will live. Your people will be my people, and your God will be my God. And I'm pretty sure there was an audible laugh when he read that because we didn't understand what he was talking about when he said this. Like, your people will be my people, like to this day, that is still a running joke in our family with my sister. Like, hey, your people will be my people. Because we didn't know where he was going with this, like what the context of this with is until you read this story and realize what's going. Like, if he would have gotten up and gave gave a little context about what he was getting ready to say when he said this, yeah, instead of just quoting it, it was like, that was weird.

SPEAKER_06 42:03

Where did that come from?

SPEAKER_01 42:04

And from left field, guys. That's just really weird. Why you your people will be my people, my people will be your people. We're like.

SPEAKER_07 42:13

And that's interesting because unfortunately, I have been married a couple times. I've been engaged a couple times. And one of the things they say is you don't marry their family. Oh, yes, you're not.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

That's the first thing my dad told me.

unknown 42:27

Oh no.

SPEAKER_07 42:28

Make sure you can get along with your in-laws because they become part of the family too. So don't think that you're getting just that person. You're getting the whole kitten caboo. Yep. But and that's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's definitely something that we need to figure out.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

So no, folks, uh uh, we got some other products showed up, so it's fine. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Go ahead and see that. More people are adding to the full.

SPEAKER_07 42:56

And Jim's been with us before on uh Jonah. Which, by the way, I bought me a shirt, which I think you already had. It's the the big fish that says, get in, loser, we're doing God's work. And he's following the person. I thought you had it, and maybe you don't have it.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

No, it's got this really round sticker that's kind of like that. Yeah. Okay, well, I bought a t-shirt that has it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's uh uh Jonah and he's and he's floating. Yeah. And then the giant fish is coming to swallow him up, and he's like, whale, whale, whale. You come the consequences in the back.

SPEAKER_07 43:37

That's fantastic. I didn't realize that's what it said. Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_03 43:41

It's funny.

SPEAKER_07 43:42

I was actually at a concert a couple years ago, and this girl she comes along with a mine and she's got this picture of a whale. I don't know. And it says a negative word. You know, I'm not gonna say it. So I was like, I don't understand your shirt. And then when she explained it to me, I I realized what it meant and what she was saying. So now if I ever text somebody instead of saying W E L L, I say W H A L E.

SPEAKER_06 44:10

Well, well, well, well, well.

SPEAKER_07 44:14

So that is fantastic. Have you done any reading, Jeff, in Ruth?

SPEAKER_09 44:19

Any ideas of what Ruth is about? I'm not. I actually'm I'm excited to get to like the minor prophet text of the Old Testament. I'm up to Deuteronomy right now, like about halfway through Deuteronomy.

SPEAKER_07 44:30

It's such an important book. It really is.

SPEAKER_09 44:38

Well, I I didn't realize Joshua references Deuteronomy. Isaiah references a lot of Deuteronomy. Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, Jesus. Almost everything he says is Deuteronomy. I'm like, oh well, that's just that's where Joshua gets that from. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

We'd also like to introduce uh Dakota as well too. If she'd like to say anything at all, you're welcome.

SPEAKER_04 44:59

What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_00 45:01

Presently we're in the book of Ruth. No, no, no. It's perfectly fine. Just if you have a comment that's a suggestion.

SPEAKER_04 45:08

I'm happy to be here with everyone, and I'm excited to learn and just growing in my spiritual growth and so forth. And with a bunch of great people right now.

SPEAKER_07 45:20

Even with my terrible hair. That haircut is not a part of the. I've got a book for radio.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

Yeah, maybe not even that.

SPEAKER_07 45:31

Maybe not. You may have heard the little spiel, the little uh joke.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

Why did you have to say it like that? Spiel? No, no. You said you may have heard it. And then immediately my mind goes, you may have heard it said.

SPEAKER_03 45:51

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a second.

SPEAKER_07 45:54

What do you say about Ruth and Boaz? You don't know that story?

SPEAKER_04 45:58

I don't think so. I might not.

SPEAKER_07 46:01

I'll tell it to you once we're off the podcast, but it is a it is a fantastic story. It is and we talked about it in the podcast earlier about how God is such He's such an amazing. It's just I don't know. It's I'm in awe every time I start reading and getting with my brothers and talking about the long being about you can go out.

SPEAKER_06 46:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:24

Yeah. Yeah. Unless unless Dave 2 of you here in the room or Ziggy. Or Ziggy.

SPEAKER_09 46:31

I don't remember how short the roof was. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

Yes, brother.

SPEAKER_06 46:48

Robbie Burrett, who is a minister at the Northside First Cross in Jacksonville, Indiana, is finishing up. I'll assume. Finished up today a series on the Book of Ruth. And it's been very good. Yeah. Very good.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

Yeah. Something this week, and the reason we kind of started this is I was listening to another podcast that I listened to outside of this one, and it really got me like, and I had read Ruth before, and we've kind of discussed it before, and something was like, you need to reread Ruth. And I was like, okay, sure. And I started reading it with the with some of the things I had heard on the other podcast and started connecting dots, and I was like, wow, okay, this is and it it plays into what I'm trying to get that I'm trying to get Scott to do in one of his sermon series next year is to talk about the women in Jesus' lineage.

SPEAKER_07 47:50

Dude, that's a deep dive. I know there's some stuff about I did my mom and it was like two sisters even Jesus.

SPEAKER_09 47:59

Like we're we don't know.

SPEAKER_07 48:03

That was actually a Bible Sunday school uh question that I had when I was in Sunday school as a child. How many sisters? How many siblings did Jesus have?

SPEAKER_09 48:13

I thought somewhere there was like a different than references.

SPEAKER_07 48:17

I was in Sunday school, Rob. I was like 11 years old in the Prickabies. The Prickabes. That's what that's called.

SPEAKER_03 48:26

It's a fun word.

SPEAKER_07 48:27

Yeah, it is a fun word. Yes, yeah. And the legacy standard is Ruth Gleans in Boaz Field.

SPEAKER_01 48:38

Wow. In the CSB, it just says Ruth and Boaz meet.

SPEAKER_09 48:42

In the NIV it says Ruth meets Boaz in the grain field. Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 48:48

Now Naomi had a kinsman of her husband, a mighty man of excellence, of a family alimelech, whose name was Boaz. And Ruth, the Moabitus, said to Naomi, Please let me go to the field and glean among the ears of grain after one whom I may find favour and his eyes. And she said to her, Go, my daughter. So she went. And she came and gleaned in the field after the reapers. And it so happened that she happened to come to the portion of the field belonging to Boaz, who was of the family Elimelech. Now behold, Boaz came from Bethlehem and said to the reapers, May Yahweh be with you. And they said to him, May Yahweh bless you. And Boaz said to his young man who was in charge of the reapers, Whose young woman is this? The young woman in charge of the reapers replied, She is the young Moabite woman and returned with Naomi from the fields of Moab. And she said, Please let me glean and gather after the reapers among the sheaves. Thus she came and has remained from the morning until now. She has been sitting in the house for a little while. Then Boaz said to Ruth, Have you not heard my daughter? Do not go too glean in another field. Furthermore, do not go on from this one, but stay here with my young women. Let your eyes be on the field which they reap, and go after them. Indeed, I have commanded the young men not to touch you. And if you are thirsty, go to the water jars and drink from what the young man draw. And then she fell on her face, bowing to the ground, and said to him, Why have I found favour in your sight that you should take notice of me, though I am a foreigner? Boaz replied to her, all that you have done for your mother-in-law after the death of her your husband has been truly told to me. And how you forsook your father and your mother, and the land of your birth, and came to a people that you did not previously know. May Yahweh fully repay your work, and may your wages be full from Yahweh, the God of Israel, under whose wings you have come to seek refuge. And then she said, May I find favour in your eyes, my Lord, for you have conf you have comforted me, and indeed have spoken to the heart of your servant woman, though I am not like one of your servant women. So that she sat beside the reapers, and he served her roasted grain, and she ate, and was satisfied, and had some left. And then she rose to glean. And Boaz commanded his young men, saying, Let her glean even among the sheaves, and do not dishonour her. Also you shall purposely pull out of her some grain. Sorry, you shall purposely pull out for her some grain from the bundles and leave it that she may glean, and do not rebuke her. So she gleaned in the field until evening. Then she beat out what she had gleaned, and it was about an epith of barley. She took it up and went into the city, and her mother-in-law saw what she had gleaned. She also took it out and gave Naomi what she had left after she was satisfied. Her mother-in-law then said to her, Where did you glean today? And where did you work? May he who took notice of you be blessed. So she told her mother-in-law with whom she had worked, and said, The name of the man with whom I work today is Boah. Naomi said to her daughter-in-law, May he be blessed of Yahweh, who has not forsaken his loving kindness, to the living and the dead. And Naomi said to her, The man is our relative. He is one of our kinsmen redeemers. And then Ruth, the Moabiter, said, Furthermore, he said to me, You should stay close to my young man until they have finished all my harvest. Naomi said to Ruth, her daughter in law, It is good, my daughter, that you go out with this yo with his young women, so that others do not oppress you in another field. So she stayed close by the young woman of Boaz in order to glean until the end of the barley harvest and the wheat harvest, and she lived with her mother in law.

SPEAKER_09 54:30

All right. So, real quick I never heard the word glean a day in my life, but it's mentioned a lot. I'm assuming that means like pig. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_06 54:42

Well, it it's beyond it's beyond that, though, right? Wasn't there a law or rule that as they were harvesting they had to leave so much behind for the needy for the poor. And what the poor would come behind and pick was called gleaning.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

So if you go to Leviticus chapter 9, it says when you reap when you reap the harvest of your land, you are not to reap to the very edge of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not strip your vineyards bare or gather its fallen grapes. Leave them for the poor and the resident alien. I am the Lord your God.

SPEAKER_09 55:22

Okay, so Ruth was poor in this circumstance, and she was picking up the scraps that were left in the field.

SPEAKER_07 55:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 55:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 55:29

So in the first part, we see that she is a widow. Yeah, she's a widow. As was Naomi, right? Yes. She's with her mother-in-law, Naomi. Naomi tells her to go back to her family, but she says, No, I'm going to stay with you. Because Naomi has nothing to eat. Right. Because she lost her husband and she's lost her sons. So Ruth is like, no, I'm going to stick with you.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 55:52

So yeah, that's what that kind of happens there.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

Yeah. So the so basically what she was doing was gathering sustenance for her and her mother-in-law so they could live.

SPEAKER_06 56:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 56:03

Because without a male husband or heir, women didn't have anything. So they would have eventually, had this not happened, could have eventually starved.

SPEAKER_07 56:19

And I like the fact that he even says, set out some good stuff for her.

SPEAKER_01 56:24

This yeah, the second go. Once he figures out who she is and realizes because he says, I've heard the stories about what you have done for your mother-in-law. Right. And that's the point where he's like, okay, guys, we got to leave her a little bit better than just the edges of the field.

SPEAKER_06 56:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:41

Like we're going to actually leave stalks out for her so she can gather them. So it's her and her Naomi have meals.

SPEAKER_09 56:49

Right. I highlighted it because I didn't know if it meant anything. But when he says get a drink from the water jars the men have filled, don't women typically, aren't they the ones that usually take the jars to the wells and fill and fill them? Back in this at this point in time.

SPEAKER_07 57:05

That's a valid question. The women were the ones that went to the well. I'm not 100% sure what we're going for here.

SPEAKER_00 57:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 57:12

How does it work?

SPEAKER_04 57:17

Like because he said go with the other women. So maybe the water just wasn't on their tour list. Ah they were they were field workers.

SPEAKER_01 57:26

So if you if you look in the footnotes of the Bibles, it says Boaz issued instructions to ensure her safety. He also allowed her to drink the water his young men had brought, saving her the lengthy trip to the well. So instead of her having to go out during the heat of the day to go get her own water, they had apparently gotten water before they started kind of their and left it under the shelter where they would all beat up at the end. Right, yeah. So they could they had something to drink, so she didn't have to be alone. Yeah. Just being alone is dangerous.

SPEAKER_09 58:07

I just thought it was interesting because I guess I mean even like with Jesus, you know, when he meets the woman at the well, it's it's the women that go fetch the water. But they you know said that the men had filled.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

Well that's and that's the reason in the Gospels too, when they're coming into Jerusalem during the last days, Jesus is like, go find the guy that's carrying the water jug and tell him the master needs a room. Yeah, because it's he would have stood out. He would have stood out like a sore thumb. Yeah, it would be like us be like, hey, um, okay, we're gonna go into a downtown city we're not familiar with, or a city that's let's say a festival's going on, and you're like, and the the person you're with is like, hey, go find the guy walking on stilts. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like that's how much that guy carrying the water jug would have stood out in that crowd, like, oh, there he is.

SPEAKER_09 59:02

Yeah, and that's that's why I thought it was. I just uh heard that I was listening to the Forgotten Jesus podcast, and that they were just touching base about that in a particular moment in the Bible. So when I seen that, that's why it stuck out like, wait, it says men filled this. I just heard that and it's not very common for Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

So apparently at this point of time, the men had already the women had gotten the water, the men had carried it in, so they didn't have to leave the fields in the middle of work. Okay, because you only had a certain period of time where you could do all this before it got dark.

SPEAKER_07 59:36

We also learn in the New Testament that uh the lady at the well, she went in the heat of the afternoon because the women went in the morning of the cool of the day, so that kind of ties that all together too. Um but it it is it is fascinating that he knows who she is and what she's done for Naomi. Right. And it's like we were talking about earlier with um her staying with Naomi and doing those things, apparently has gotten out. Like it's not just and and who knows what the time period is here, too. Right. We went from chapter one to chapter two, but we don't know you know what kind of time frame, a year, two years, six months, we don't know that. But apparently there has been talk, and it's known that Ruth is what I'm gonna say for lack of better words, maybe a virtuous woman.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:29

A what we would call now a Proverbs 31 woman before we even get to Proverbs, or this is after Proverbs. This is after Proverbs.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:37

Uh this is before.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:41

So, yeah, and so her reputation or her integrity has been known. So that's I think that's fascinating that we talk about that in this one.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:54

Yeah. And then the story, too, and it's it's a small word, and I didn't connect the dots in my little the verses in between in verse 11 um towards the end, when he he says that, you know, I've known it's been reported to me everything that you have done for your mother-in-law. Um and then he says, How you left your father and mother in your native land and how you came to a people you didn't previously know. Genesis 12, 1. The Lord said to Abram, Go from your land, your relatives, and your father's house to the land I will show you.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:34

I'm telling you, man, people are missing out. They don't spend some serious time reading this thing, they're missing out on a lot of stuff. Um also, I find it important that he's telling his men to leave her alone. So that means he's like he's he's obviously showing interest and thought and care about her, other than all the other stuff, but he tells the young men.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:05

He's protecting her?

SPEAKER_07 1:02:06

Yes. And this is even before we know what happens in the next couple chapters. Oh, yeah. So obviously, he may have had an eye on her, uh when he saw her and met her. Or maybe he's just seeing all this virtuous stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:21

He's just being genuine.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:23

Yeah. Yeah. Well, could you imagine being on the position of a kinsman redeemer? Right? Yeah. You're just like, well, I mean, I'm gonna do it because I don't want these people to starve.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:36

You know, I mean that that could also be a sense of mentality as well.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:39

And that goes into what we were talking about earlier with you know being meek, controlled strength, knowing our place, when to step up and do those things and take care of those things that need to be taken care of.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:51

And I think that's what a lot of the Kinsman Redeemer is about, and why they had it the way they had it, where the brother or the sibling or whatever would step in. I mean, how important would the kinsman redeemer be now in today's society? Yeah. Well, I I imagine immeasurable, especially with us dealing with a lot of follow up from the Oh yeah. I mean children without fathers, fathers that aren't in the pictures and everything else. So yeah, I mean it's we see the we see the aftermath of not having that now, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:24

Yeah. And maybe that's not popular to say, but So do you do you wonder up to this point? So we don't really Naomi Naomi doesn't really say anything about Boaz to Ruth, up to this point, up until you get to verse 20, where she says, No, Naomi continued, this man is a close relative, he is one of our family redeemers or kinsmen redeemers. So does Ruth even know at this point, like I don't would she have put two and two together and be like, okay, this is Abimelech's brother. Like, would she have put those two together, or would she have just been like, this guy's just doing this out of the goodness of his heart until she says something to him?

SPEAKER_07 1:04:11

I'm gonna I'm gonna point you back to verse two. And Ruth, the Moabitus, said to Naomi, please let me go to the field and glean among the ears of grain after one whom I may find favor in his eyes.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:25

Well, even in verse one, is that is verse one, is that God telling us, or is that telling us that Naomi already knew? When it says Naomi had a relative on her husband, is that saying Naomi knew that, or is that just God saying hey, I'm telling you it was that.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:42

I think it's yeah, I think it's like a precursor.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:45

It almost sounds like it's like setting up a scene that's like a scene. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:50

We even talked about that a minute ago. Like, you know, go back to the mom. Oh, I've got this daughter you should meet, or whatever. But it does say So verse one is like the narrator. Yeah, man of excellence of the family of Emily. So yeah, Naomi knew that it would be a kinsman type situation if he if she goes there.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:11

When she finds out, I think, who his name is, like, who are you working today? And Ruth's like, his name was Boaz. Yeah, she's like Boaz. And she's like, huh, that's my husband's brother.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:20

Yeah. Yeah. Are there any more thoughts on this? Because we should probably wrap this up here and all. Yeah. But I did like having you all on. That was fantastic. It was nice little surprise.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:33

Walk in and catch the last little bit of it. I gotta get it on last week's also.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:38

Yeah, we had a little bit technical difficulties this last week with the holiday and my computer acting stupid. Um but I finally got it. It was a it was it was on Wednesday that it was published. It was just later than normal. Um my gentleman that works midnight was probably upset with me. Because he couldn't download it and listen to what he worked. Yeah. He had to go back and listen to one of the older ones, so um but yeah, this is a great story. I love talking about Ruth. Another one that was a surprise for me, um one of our elders here had to take whatever day off from the Sunday school, Sunday Bible stu study, and he asked me to fill in. And it was the book of Esther. And that was a book I had never even thought about or looked at. And it blew my mind to step into that book and read it. Like, whoa. Like it connected a lot of dots that I had never seen before. It brought our actual modern day history into where it steps into the Bible, where it is going alongside with the Bible. Like that's something that I think we miss out on. Like we read the scripture and we know the time frame and we know what's going on in the scripture, but how much other stuff is branching out that's not talked about.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:02

I thought about that same stuff like Caesar and Jesus were alive at the same time. Yeah. You know, you just but you don't you think of Caesar and you don't think of Jesus in the same at the same time frame. You think of Jesus and it's like at the same like universe almost. But a lot of our world history was happening at the exact same time that you know Jesus Christ was on this earth.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:22

I looked at uh something I think it might have been on that map that I got from the Creation Museum or the Arctic Experience. Um if you walk the timeline out, I believe Adam was still alive. I'm gonna say Methuselah, but it may even have been further up. So like Adam himself could have been talking to, I think, Noah. I think he lived all the way up till Noah. Yes. Okay. Mind blown. Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:56

That's all Adam I know, guys. Right here.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:04

The overlap of these prominent figures, they were actually talking to each other.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:10

Yeah. I mean they were having kids at three, four hundred years old. Yeah, they were hanging out.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:14

You know, like that's awesome. It's a I found it online, of course. It's a great little like timeline that shows the overlap of, you know, if if Methuselah lived 900 and some years, how many people were born also? Uh and uh Enoch was another one. Yeah, you know, like they were all like could be sitting around like this, or like like recently I saw something that's in my own kind of family is five-generation photo. They could have had five generation photos then.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:42

Yeah, that's fair.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:43

Actually, they could have had like 12 generation photos in there. Which is just awesome and amazing.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:53

I gotta start all over. You moved your hand. We got another kid.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:00

All right. Yeah, because you talk about that, and my Bible actually has like a timeline in like when each book was written and kind of what's going on in here. And it's estimated that Ruth was written around 1140 BC-ish. And in the 1300s BC, the Chinese people are using decimals. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. Like you're like, yeah, on this part of the world that this part of the world doesn't know about, right? There are things going on over here.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:38

Yes. Well, think about Moses. We read, you read, you know, about Egypt and the Pharaoh and all of this stuff and history, but you don't ever hear about Moses being a part of that same era. But then you get to the Bible and you we hear that we see read the focal on Moses. Whereas, you know, you read the history of Egypt or whatever, you hear pharaohs and tombs, but it doesn't ever mention Moses. But that was at the same history of the Bible.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:00

Moses and the people are probably building the pyramid. Yeah. We're not going to get into that subject. Well, no, but I mean, but that's that could have been the work that they were doing.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:09

Well, yeah, and that's what I say, like with Esther, we f we we meet Xerxes, which was the king god of the Persian army, which was the 300 Spartans fighting Xerxes. Yeah. I'm like, whoa, dude! Spartacus and Xerxes and Esther's back at the house. Like, that's awesome, dude. To be able to put those things together and to see it, like, I again, I love scripture. One thing we've got to remember that this is just the timeline that God has given us for what he has done and who he is bringing into the world, which is Jesus. There are still things that are going on all over. And it all started from God and Adam and Eve. But we lose track of the other branches of the family. Like, Cain is a fascinating story to me. Like, to delve into his story, which we don't really have any record of his story. How much I would love to see that.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:13

Tom still believes that Cain is still wandering the earth.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:16

Well, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

Well, I mean, why do you think that though?

SPEAKER_07 1:11:22

Well, God said nobody kill him, and he was cursed. Can you imagine living 6,000 years? You would outlive everyone you've ever met, everyone you've ever loved.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:34

So he was like immortal? Is what your theory is?

SPEAKER_06 1:11:38

I'm toyed with that theory.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:41

I don't want to understand that.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:44

I've seen it in a T dumpster. It showed it with an amnesia that they found. Maybe that's King. You never know. They found it behind a dumpster, the Burger King. It might be.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:53

He drank water from the dead team.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:56

Seriously.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:01

He's behind a Burger King, something.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:03

He goes by the name Benjamin Kyle.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:07

And it is not an original thought. I saw it on a TV show, which was the discovery. It wasn't supernatural, but it was that stupid show Lucifer.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:16

I love that show.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:17

And my favorite, like my favorite iteration of Clark Kent is Tom Welling. Oh, yeah. Every time. Well, Tom Welling plays Kane.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:25

Oh, really? Which is like Smallville?

SPEAKER_07 1:12:27

Smallville, yeah. So it was like, dude, Tom's Kane. That's kind of cool, you know. He says, I've been blown up, I've been shot, I've been stabbed, and he just comes back.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:37

Well, even in Supernatural, Kane was still alive.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:40

Well, it was the Mark of Cane. The mark of Kane, and they gave him power to kill angels or something crazy. But anyway, I digress. I may edit some of that out for Brian's sake. Well, Brian has a coronary over there. Rob, pray us out for this one.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:55

Deavenly Father, Lord, we thank you for this uh chance to just get together as a group and just to study your word, Lord. It's so awesome how you work in front of the scenes, behind the scenes, in the middle of each scene, Lord. Um it's so cool when dots are connected and you kind of get goosebumps on your arm when you read something and you're like, oh my goodness, I can't believe that's there. And um what a wonderful word that Scripture presents to us and gives to us. Um not only is it our instruction manual here while we're on earth, Lord, but it's kind of our history book too. Um the way that we came to be who we are, uh, each one of us. Um Lord, I'm so grateful for Brian and Tom putting together this podcast, Lord, and I pray for those that are listening, Lord, that uh maybe we said something today um that kind of perks some interest and um perks some interest in the local church, uh whether that's uh our specific congregation or um any of the other congregations here in our city, Lord. Um Lord, we just ask that people would just come in and just see what the people are all about, Lord. See what your work is all about here in our community and what we're doing and uh how we're trying to be uh the hands and feet of Jesus uh as we were instructed to. Um Lord, we just ask that you just continue to be with all those uh in our world, Lord, that are struggling right now. Uh we ask that you be with each and every one of them, that you would put your arms around them and love on them like they've never been loved before, Lord, and uh just so grateful for your son, Jesus, that came to this earth, uh, that walked as one of us and got to experience the things that we experience each and every day, Lord, and um ultimately gave up his life uh for sinners like each one of us here in this room, uh, and each one of us around the world, uh, Lord, uh, but conquered death, came back to life, rose from the grave, uh, and is seated at the right hand of the Father, Lord, uh, waiting to come back to redeem us all. And it's in your name I pray. Amen. Goodbye.