🎙️Podcast Season 3, Episode 1: Hip-Hop Drama Meets Jill Scott Magic

We're BACK for Season 3 and kicking things off with the culture! The sisters are diving into the 50 Cent and T.I. beef that has everyone picking a side, plus Jill Scott's new album that's got us all in our feelings. We're giving our unfiltered takes on hip-hop drama, legendary pettiness, and why Jill's voice still hits different after all these years. No guests, no filter - just us, the tea, and our very different perspectives on it all. Welcome to Season 3! 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:25

Hi, welcome back. We're in the building. Ginger and honey podcast. We're back for season three, y'all. Oh my gosh, no.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

Time went by. Um, as you see, we took some time off to bring you a new and improved Us, new and improved set. And you like, you like. Our light is dope. Get into it. We're super excited. So we tried to elevate this season. And um, we hope you see the difference. We hope you stay tuned and keep coming back to see us weekly.

unknown 1:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Yeah. So we've been just it's it's it's been a great time of learning and growing and revamping not only the set but our mindsets. Absolutely. Elevating. Yes. So we can bring you the best of us that we can. And so we these these last few months have been a challenge. Yeah. But also just great, great reflection, learning curve, and coming back bigger, better, faster, stronger, like some superhero all the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

Super superpowers activated.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

For real, for real.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

So what you been up to? Been been studying, trying to get better at this craft, this new, this new endeavor of ours. So we've definitely been doing a lot of research, a lot of um learning, um, like you said, a lot of um self-reflection and yeah, and trying to be consistent. Yes. That is the key word in everything we do, consistency. So that's that's what we're trying to do. And yeah, and bring you a better U.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

But lots of traveling, yes, fun in between.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

It wasn't all work, right? Right, right, right. We did have some time to to spend with loved ones, yeah, our booze, family, holidays, holidays, yeah. Hey, new year, 2026, y'all. Yeah, what's poppin'? Hey, big things popping, little things stopping. Yeah, and with that being said, talking about big things popping, uh, y'all been busy on the internet. On that messy internet, on the internet. So one of the things that um went viral that's attracted everyone's attention, including ours. Yeah. Is the um big in the group chat. Big in the group chat. Oh my gosh. Real big. The the the rivalry beef controversy with 50 Cent and T.I. What in the world? What in the world?

SPEAKER_01 3:40

Yeah, I it's it's been nice to kind of watch and you know, true essence of hip-hop, you know, has that rivalry, be battle rap, yeah, back and forth.

unknown 3:55

Right.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

Um, so to that part, we can relate. That's that's that's just a part of the culture of it all.

SPEAKER_02 4:02

Right. The male ego pissing contests of it. The piss and contest. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

The um, yeah, or who's who's bigger? Who's bigger? Conus. Whose whose man parts are bigger? Yeah, yeah, the bigger ego.

SPEAKER_03 4:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

Um, and we know, you know, 50 has a pretty big ego. Mm-hmm. Pun not intended, because I don't I don't know nothing about his genitalia. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

Glad you cleared that up.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know nothing about that. I'm just saying we we know he has a very big ego presence um and likes to troll, some say bully, yeah, poke fun.

SPEAKER_02 4:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

At people's kick people when they're down. Yeah, yeah. Uh that seems to be a theme, unfortunately, for him. Um because you have built an empire, one to be respected, I would think, but then simultaneously, it seems like he's building it and tearing it down at the same time.

unknown 5:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Just choices he's choosing to make. Um that I personally can't really get like this. Surely there's something better you could be doing with your time and resources, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

Than than choosing to troll. But for whatever reason, this is who he is and what he does. Yeah. And as a as a fan, like, I it's disappointing.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

As a as a fan of his rap career and then even the power, power verse, universe, power, universe.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Yeah. Um, very creative.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

It it is disheartening to watch him, yeah. And like some of the things he does online with people, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Which, you know, like we talked about, um, kind of lose a sense of respect for him as a a man. A man. Yeah. Yep, as a man. And even going back to just the whole rap battle thing, like that's all cool, you know, do that. Yeah. It's fun, keep us entertained, but then lines get crossed. Yeah. You know, bringing people's children. Wow and the wives. And baby. Who was not having it? Is the Harris family. Yeah. Okay. The whole family. All of them. All of them said, yeah, you all get a piece of this. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. So um that that's been interesting to watch. Um, it's been entertaining. You know, we we got King is a little rah-rah, so you know, he crashed out hard.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

You can definitely rely on King to say what no one else is gonna say, do what no one else is gonna do. Uh, and we, you know, even from the show, watching watching the Harris show when they had their reality show. Yeah, it was like, ooh, that king of wild card. Yeah, he's a wild card. Yes, and he continues to be a wild card. And I I can't front in this in this situation. I'm like, he said, you gonna talk about my mama? My mama, my mama, maybe give it to you. Not mine, not mine.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

I'm gonna give it to you.

SPEAKER_01 7:58

Yeah, I love it. I I I love this here for it.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

The money came in, smooth it out. What?

SPEAKER_01 8:05

Listen, he he was like laid back on the beat. Fire, just just but shooting, give you these balls shooter about mine.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

I was like, ooh, ow, ooh, oh, oh, oh body bowl, body blow the beat with sort, all of it, yeah. Love it, love it, yeah, but but ultimately, you know, um, we didn't like to see the attack on his family, yeah, but love to see how the family came to to defend, support, protect. Bring them out, bring him out. What? What? Bring them out. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

The Harrison.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

Okay, and Tip said, I have no conversation. Them boys handle it on their own. Talking about my mama, you know, because what you not like.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Because they're grown. They're grown men, yeah. So, I mean, you know, there's the element that he really can't control. True, right? True, and I'm, you know, would he have tried to control it if he could? Probably. Yeah. Some of it.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

But there's also the other part of like, y'all talked about their mother. You talked about my wife.

SPEAKER_02 9:23

Just what you want. You're gonna get all this smoke, all of it, and continue to. So even with that said, you know, as far as protecting a parent, you know, so as mothers, you know, we we are mothers of um adult children and sons. Yep. So, you know, we we parent as protectors, yeah you know, that's our job to do. Yep. Protect our children. And the parenting shifts as we get older, and you know, we we become more friends and advisors than coaches, right, than doing a parenting. So now how do you feel about that aspect of now your children coming to protect you? Right. Especially as a mother.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

It's it's funny to think about because you do realize like there's a time, it's it's the circle of life, yeah, where you know they will now, as you age, take care of you. Yeah. And you have to realize that as the role changes, that's just what comes with it. So you gotta be okay with it. So that's one thing. As a parent and being the protector, I would be a little afraid of the possible repercussions for my child.

unknown 10:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

Um, and I'm general, just in general in this situation.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

Um, because it could get, we've we've seen how these things could go left, right? Somebody's misinterpretation or somebody not keeping it just on wax. Um we we've unfortunately seen that, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:18

So and fans will jump in and decide to take a side with, and then they go rogue, and it's like, oh, well, we weren't this was for entertainment, right?

SPEAKER_01 11:30

And now y'all took it somewhere else. And so I would be extra concerned for my child. I I know how I move, yeah, but they're a different generation, and you can't say that they necessarily have their head on the same type of swivel that we would have our heads on. Yeah. And so I'm sure that that's a concern for the Harris family, the the parents.

unknown 12:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

Um, because also the younger generation have this invincibility factor too, right? So while we move a certain way because we were brought up a certain way and experience things, they may not have had those experiences yet. And then that invincibility factor kick in, and you know, king on song, whatever. And so, you know, that is an extra layer of concern. Yeah. Um, but I mean, you know, heightened security, and then right.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Let's let him do what he does. He said, let the chips fall what they may. Yeah. And um, you know, he he has the money and the access to things too. You know, that part. So he said, we good over here. Yeah. Yeah. But it but it's a real. But I can see the concern, yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. And I did actually hear um T.I. say too, you know, they did a lot to uh talk to King and prior incidents, you know, to get him cooled down and level-headed. And then you you poke the bear and woke the beast.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

Yeah, yeah, like we've been working hard on him, but going back to the family values, the the the the show, right? And so him trying to get him to kind of be himself, but maybe not so grandiose. Right. Um, right, and now it's like, okay, yeah, now look what you done.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Look what you did, you know what you did, and how you think is important, um, just in general, as men, but especially successful men, you know, to come out and protect their wives and family like that. Or it's like, you know, I'm gonna ignore that because I I I know what it is. Yeah, it's not even worth my energy.

SPEAKER_01 14:07

I I I love to see it. Okay, he his job is to provide and protect.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

And protect. And right. You you did it in public, you disrespect it in public. I'm gonna let you have it in public. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm with it.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

Yeah. Because I mean, I mean, how would Tiny be looking at him if he said nothing?

unknown 14:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

Or did nothing.

unknown 14:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

Be like, this man out here posting pictures that, you know, and taking shots at me.

unknown 14:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

Like, it's good to know that she's protected. Yes. Right? Because so many times we're just out here naked. Not in the world, you know. So it's nice to see him step in, and we know he don't play about tiny at all.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

Not even a little bit. Don't don't get it twisted. Don't get it twisted. Him loves some tiny.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Yes, he does. Yes, he does. You know, and so it's it's good to see.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

Yeah, I love that. And you know, and like they say, you know, we say the black woman is the most disrespected and unprotected person. So it definitely was refreshing to see. And not only the family, but social media. Yeah. All different health friends, women, um, celebrities have posted just random pictures of her and videos, you know, praising her and support. So it yeah, it is it's brought a spin, yeah, and brought out a type of love that has been very nice to see. Yeah. Love and support of her. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

And I I hear she is a person of good character. Like she's super sweet, and she's good friend, good. Exactly. So I it's on par, yeah. For what I have heard about her personality.

unknown 16:03

Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

You know, so it is it is good to see. Um, and I I just I don't know about that, uh, about uh 50. Yeah. He I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Yeah. There's so much you could be doing with your time and your energy and your resources and your money. Like, I guess you truly are unhappy. Mm-hmm. Because that's been said. Yeah. As well.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

I don't but it doesn't seem as though he feels that way.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Well, you know, most people are in a denial of situations like that, you know, strange from your children or one child, your oldest son, and and you know, the relationship bucket and is not solid. You know, um, those women there is a consistent foundation support. Um so I don't know. We don't know what's going on in that brain of his.

SPEAKER_01 17:20

Who who you taking advice from?

SPEAKER_02 17:23

Anybody? Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

Who's on your team? Or are you just the boss of all things?

SPEAKER_02 17:29

Yeah, with a bunch of yes men around. Because that happens too.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Yeah, you know, and we we see where that gets you. Right. Right. It's it works for a little while until it doesn't. It doesn't.

unknown 17:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

At some point in your life, personally and professionally, you definitely need an accountability partner. For sure.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

We all do. Yeah. You know, yeah, we all do. Exactly. Everyone should have someone who is gonna check you. Yeah, like that wasn't cool.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Yeah, here's the line. You crossed it. You you went you you you jumped it, yeah. Hurdled it. Hurdled it, long jumped it.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

He said, What line?

SPEAKER_02 18:13

There's no lines in my universe. I have no boundaries. What are those?

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Yeah. So I I think that, you know, and that just doesn't, that's not the way we're made as human beings. You're supposed to be collaborative, you're supposed to have checks and balances, and once it goes too heavy one side or the other, you end up being at the hands of your own demise.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Demise, yeah. Yeah, for sure. So we we will see the outcome. But I'm definitely loving the the uh the support online and just what is brought out, you know, as far as the the family. Yeah. And the family unit and the black family unit, especially, because you know, of course, we see in conversations online as well, you know, debate about singles and the loss of the family unit, and um, how do we repair that? How do we get together to re restore it? Yes, and and this was a huge one for the team, you know.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

Yes, I think I think they modeled some really great behaviors, yeah. There seems to be an uptick in celebrity, and this was going on prior, but I think this is a real they're already there in terms of like a celebrity engagement, they they seem to be happening more frequently now. Whether those relationships go the full mile or not remains to be seen, but it seems to be an intent of younger um people getting engaged, willing to do that next level of commitment and build a family together. So we're starting to see it come full circle. I hope that's my hope.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Yeah, I would agree.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Because that's what we need, that's what we need.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

That's what we need. We need each other because even we'll say, you know, we'll pass things, and we're in a couple of group chats, whereas the things come across in videos, yeah, and you know, about the debate and what women should do, what men should do, what women are doing, what men are doing. It's like, ah, let's just try to understand each other, yeah, you know, and show some grace to each other and to to figure it out, just be intentional about actively figuring it out, yeah, you know, rather than pointing out the the why it's like this or why you can't find or let's let's actively because hey, we're not here to competition, no competition, and we need each other.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Absolutely, contrary to belief, because there are some women who feel like I don't need a man, yeah, uh sis. Yes, you do.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

Yes, you do, yes you do.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Yes, you don't think you do, but you do, yeah. Yeah, and they need a advice, yeah. That's what I was gonna say, and and vice versa, you know. Yeah, you okay, you it's nice to have a bunch of women, I'm sure. But how much do you have in your corner in terms of consistency and holding you down?

unknown 21:29

Right.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

You need that, you need that, and all things, and and just the you know, like we talk about even in parenting, you know, um, is designed to have two parents because we think differently. That's right so that balance and you know, someone who's gonna consider things that maybe you wouldn't, you know, us as women to have the more compassionate side that you know men it may not have naturally. So, so it it's a balance and it works best. We work best together. We do. Yeah. Get it together, folks. We're getting there. We're doing better.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

So hopefully, you know, this example of being a family coming together. Yes. From the the parents, the kids, privately, through social media, publicly, um stays on that upward trend. Yeah. Yeah. Because we need that to keep the generations going.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

Let it be, let it be a movement. Keep the movement going. Yes. You know, and then on another personal note, we are both very close and have close relations to the music industry. Yes. Both of our exes uh from in that world. So we we've experienced it on the other end as the partner of one who's in it. And we know the misogyny in it, um, the womanizing in it, all the things in it. Yeah. And they don't promote family. They don't know. So that's encouraged. The foolishness. They encourage the separation.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

They do. They do. And it's, you know, perhaps it's a ploy, part of the ploy, the systematic ploy to break down uh the black family. Um, you know, as you're coming out with an artist, oh, if you're this type of artist, you can't have a woman, a family, uh, a wife.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

And if you do, you don't talk about it. Yeah. We're not gonna speak about it. We're gonna hide it. We're gonna hide her. Where's she at? Yeah. She's up under the couch.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

Oh, he's married? Who knew? How long has he been married? Oh, 20 years. Where is she? Who is she?

SPEAKER_00 24:00

What's she doing? You like sis?

SPEAKER_01 24:02

Like, yeah. So, so there's that, and it it is encouraged, and it doesn't feel good.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

No, it doesn't feel good.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

I have been on the other end of um, oh, you don't mix business and pleasure or or whatever. Or whatever. Whatever excuse is given to try to fit the mold. Yeah. Um in terms of I need you and my family way over here. And I'm gonna be over here doing everything. Doing this, all of this, yeah, indulging all the because I have now made myself into this persona who does not have a woman, a family.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So it so it is refreshing to see you know that shift and people celebrating publicly their wives and and wives specifically, but of course the family unit as well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

So hope this continues to move it forward. Yeah. And with that being said, let's talk about the the love and light and lightness of Jill Scott.

SPEAKER_02 25:31

Ooh! Jilly from Philly, baby. While we on a love train. What? That's my girl.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

I know. Bye to her her new album. There, you know, there was lots of talk about uh the demographic, her audience, yes, right? And it is for the aunties. Uh-huh. Guess who's the aunties? We are.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

And here for it. Yeah. All of it. Yeah. All of it. And and I love too that she named the album to whom this may concern. Yeah. Because she said, Yeah, I ain't for everybody. And that's cool. And I'm good on that. Yeah. But for those who I am for, they're gonna get it.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Whose ears this should land upon.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

That's right.

unknown 26:19

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Yeah. She makes grown folk music. Yeah, the the kind you need to um cook to clean with to make love to.

SPEAKER_02 26:37

Ooh. So did you listen to the the entire album? While I'm making love? Yeah, uh, just in general. Did you?

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Um I have listened to the entire album a couple of times. Uh yeah, there's some, there's a little something for everybody on there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

Uh yes, yes. I was about about to say that. So um, and speaking of making love, so one of my favorites is don't play with it. Ooh, baby. So you can use your imagination if you haven't heard the song, if you know Jill, don't play with it.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

But when I say she laid laid it out, what part resonates with you?

SPEAKER_02 27:44

She said she's saying she said, one of one of the lines is um, I want you to squeeze and touch on all my meat. All it touch all of it. Everything has feelings. And then she said, switch the positions, give me Afro beats.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

Wow. Afro beats. Joe. Let them know. My mind, body, and soul get into all of it. And that's what I love. It's a it's a holistic approach approach to love making. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 28:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

She said, don't jackhammer meat. No wham, bam. Thank you, wham over here. Take your time.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Take your time. Slow. Yeah. Nice and slow. Slow grind. Touch all my meat. She's sending meat. All your nerve endings. All my nerve endings. Open your eyes.

unknown 29:05

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

It's a great album.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Great album.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

And this is why we're the aunties.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

That's right. Y'all can't wait to get to this age.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

It's greater later, as you always say.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Always.

SPEAKER_00 29:17

It's greater later. And it is. It is.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

And and and what do you what do you feel about you know being in this age? Auntie stage compared to. Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

It's great. Like as people turn 50. You love it here. What? Like, oh, I get it now. As as people turn 50, I'm like, girl, it's great on this side.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

And you will hear that, but I think until you reach it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

You don't understand. Because there is like a switch that kind of flips. You you know yourself first and foremost, much better. Especially if you've been doing the work. I can't say that everybody does. Right.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Because they don't. Because how old is 50? Oh, I'm sorry, I digress. Um, but with that being said, like if you have invested the time and energy in yourself to be reflective, to build up your spiritual life, yeah. Be connected to source in some way, shape, or form. And really, really start to cultivate your own life.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

There's a freedom that happens at that word freedom. Yeah. There's like a I don't really care what you think about me. I don't care what you have to say. I'm gonna let you know how I feel, but I'm not gonna necessarily pop off to do it. Right. Because now I have the language, the length, the maturity. Yeah, I don't have to cuss you out and fight you to cuss you out and fight you. Right. Um, so I think that that just overall freedom that comes with the age is just there's nothing like it.

unknown 31:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

There's nothing like it. Um, you you don't have all that angst that you have when you're young. Um finances are better. So you're not always in survival. Survival.

unknown 31:33

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

You're not, if you have children or family, nine times out of ten, you may be dependent on when you had children out of that stage and kind of like, man, I'm free as a bird right now. It feels amazing. Yes, to the empty nesters. What? Who I did complicate my life with a dog a little bit. Like, I'd be like, they said get a dog. They said who said who told you to get a dog? I'm like, you said I'm like, oh my gosh, I gotta go home and walk the dog. I gotta go home and feed the dog. Oh, I gotta get boarding for the dog. Uh, you know, childlike responsibility. It is. Um, it is, it is. Um, but definitely not the same as raising children and and all the things that come along with it. But there's like a freedom of like everything from what you eat when you eat if you eat. If you eat sometimes. Yeah, like uh, you know, when you like when you gonna clean, how you gonna clean. I put this here, still there, right? Like I, you know, I have rooms in my house, I don't even go in. Yeah, they just sealed off, right? Like, oh, maybe I should go down the hall and flush the toilet, make sure things are still working over there, you know, like it's it's kind of like it's it's just an amazing space to be in. Um, and it's especially with you know, being in relationship, it's like the world is our oyster. What are we gonna go do? Where are we gonna eat? Where are we gonna travel to? What are we all those constrictions that you have when you're younger, you just you just don't. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

Release your inhibitions, you know it's then the freedom was is the perfect word that you use. The freedom, the self-awareness, and the freedom are just you can't nothing to compare that to.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

Yeah, nothing. And in the sense of like, hey, these are the golden years. Yeah, we you know, we the best part is we know we've survived a hundred percent of our worst days.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

Yes, because we don't look like what we've been through.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

Oh, thank you, Jesus. Because yeah, we could we could tell y'all some stories that'll have killed other people, just straight up. They just don't survive it, yeah, right? Straight up, yeah. And um through prayer and being God's special children, and just perseverance, yeah, you know. We have we have really, really come through some things, resilience, yeah. And so um this glow that you see doesn't doesn't come with a cost. We definitely have some wisdom behind it to back it up, and um it's just I don't know, the journey is is is sweet, the sweet spot, I like to call it. It really is, and then knowing like, you know, we probably don't have another 50 more years, right?

SPEAKER_02 35:20

We definitely are on the other end of this thing called life, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

So the reality is how you gonna live it for the rest of it, yeah, no matter how much longer we have, right?

SPEAKER_02 35:33

And to be present, yeah, to be present, like in each moment, in each moment, yeah. And you know, you still have to plan for the future and all that, but you know, we we we see personally too, um, and even you know, through social media, so many people stay stuck. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

Like you know you can help yourself, right? You know there's resources out here in the world.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

Because guess what? No one is coming to save you. You gotta show up. Yes, you gotta show up, yes, and it comes with comes with self-love, you know, in anything that that's another thing, right? Yeah, growing in how you see yourself, understand yourself, knowing yourself, you so you can bring your best self to a relationship, whether you're in a long-standing relationship, because we at this age many people have been together for a long time, yeah, or you are single, or you are single, meaning not married, but in a committed relationship. Those are your three options. And so if you like we are single, meaning unmarried, but in committed relationships, like the the you you get to bring to that experience is unprecedented.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

It is, and it's so rewarding, you know, to reflect on ooh, because the old me, you know, just to see how you resolve um situations, how conflict, conflict, the old me with a flip, all this shit over, all of it, all of it.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

Oh what?

SPEAKER_02 37:39

However, mouth crazy, you know, just whatever.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

Who was that?

SPEAKER_02 37:44

Yeah, or just not putting in all the effort, yeah, you know, um, nothing. No intentional, yeah, no intentionality, full grace, you know, understanding, understanding your partner, you know, and it doesn't mean to excuse bad behavior, yeah, excuse mistreatment. Um, but when there are conflicts or misunderstandings and communication, you actively speak about it, you know, you actively get to the source of things. And that helps you to understand the perspectives and point of views because our experiences shape who we are, shape how we think, shape how we respond, shape how we're in um community, in relationships, you know, um, and not that some of it can be adjusted or relearned, but it definitely shapes us. So you knowing that history about your partner is so important as well, you know?

SPEAKER_01 38:50

Yeah, they say um the seven, eight-year-old person is who shows up.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

Just had that conversation.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

Yeah, yes, that's what research says.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

Yes, and I believe it. Yeah, I believe it.

SPEAKER_01 39:05

Yeah, you know, you're in especially in those moments of conflict. When it's all good, it's all good. Right, right. But in those moments of conflict, you are dealing with the seven or eight-year-old child. Yeah, yeah, and so understanding from that perspective is key to navigating to the path to solving the problem. Right. Right. Right. So we want to be solution-based. Some people just want to be for beef and sake. We this is peaceful Zen. Who please who saw era? What? I don't, I mean, conflict is necessary, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and we're not gonna agree on everything. We're not carbon copies of every of each other and all of that good stuff, we know. But I do not like when me and honey are it. Oh nuts doesn't feel good.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

No, well, you say I don't want to fight. I don't want to fight. I want to make little not war. Just touch my meat, give me Afro beats. I don't want to fight. I'm a lover, not a fighter. Can we just skip to the making up part? Please and thank you. That's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 40:38

Yeah, yeah. What do you mean afrobeats? No, that's hard. I was like, she said, what? Come on.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

What you say, bring that back. Give me Afrobeats is hard. Hard.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

Switch positions. Give me Afrobeats. I'm gonna keep running that. I know that's right. Oh goodness, but it is, it is, it is good to um have that understanding, yeah. To know, you know where those weaknesses are and those triggers. Yeah, yeah. So with that being said, do you think that people should be healed to be in a relationship, or does the relationship help to grow you and heal you?

SPEAKER_01 41:33

Uh, I think no one is ever healed. Healed, E D makes it sound like you have arrived. Right. If you've arrived, yeah, there's there's there's no more. Um, healing is a lifelong journey. You got me.

unknown 41:51

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 41:52

Healing is a lifelong journey, and there are stages, there is no pinnacle.

SPEAKER_03 41:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:59

For what I believe. Um, so you're always healing, and you want to bring that best self to the relationship. Yeah, you do definitely want to show up whole.

unknown 42:14

Right.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

And um yeah, show up whole to the relationship, please. Emotionally mature, vulnerable.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

I was gonna say, and what this whole look like. Yes, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 42:28

Emotionally mature, vulnerable, a great communicator. Yeah, don't shut down on me because you're upset. Right. I'm not a mind reader, right? Talk to me. Anything can be said, yeah, it's just all in the way in which you say it.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 42:47

So I'm key on delivery. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:52

That's a big one for you.

SPEAKER_01 42:53

Yeah, delivery, delivery is a big deal. Yeah. So I'll give you a minute if you need it. Yeah, practice the power of the pause. Yeah, you know, and we can circle back. I'm not going anywhere, right? I think that's a that's another thing. The fears and anxieties about um are you going to ghost for lack of a better word, a situation. Because it became uncomfortable. Yeah. Or are you gonna stand in it and and talk about it with intention to get to a goal of us understanding and where do we move forward with it from here without compromising who you are, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:52

Why do you think vulnerabil vulnerability is so difficult?

SPEAKER_01 44:00

I I think it varies. Um for men, I feel like it's because they're raised to be strong and you don't show that and you don't cry and you don't boys don't do this and boys don't do that. Yeah, yeah. Um for women, I think it comes from your mom and whether or not during your formative years she was in survival mode. Or if you end up having to be the quote unquote man, Mrs. Super Independent, yeah, makes you hardened so much so that you have a problem with being vulnerable.

SPEAKER_02 44:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

But it's a protection.

SPEAKER_02 44:47

Protection, yeah. Yeah. Because you've spent your life in survival mode.

SPEAKER_01 44:51

Yes. So I think that that's why vulnerability is difficult.

SPEAKER_02 44:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

And for women, we want to feel safe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

And soft and pink and pretty.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:06

So that we can open up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:08

But that safety comes first a lot of times.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Nobody wants to feel vulnerable when I know you're going to throw it back in my face. The moment you get mad, you're going to use whatever situation that I came to you in a softened moment about.

unknown 45:27

Right.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Now you're going to use it against me.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Weaponized it against me. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

So that's whack. No. Those are my takeaways.

SPEAKER_02 45:38

Yeah, I love that. I would agree. But all the things. Yes. All the things.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

So we are um excited to be back. And we have lots of good topics, guests. Yes. Coming to you all this season.

unknown 45:58

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

Yeah, we're so excited. Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 46:01

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

Stoked. Yeah. So glad to have you back. Continue to tune in and watch us every Monday.

SPEAKER_01 46:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

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SPEAKER_01 46:21

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SPEAKER_02 46:27

Vodcast.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

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SPEAKER_02 46:29

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SPEAKER_01 46:39

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SPEAKER_02 46:43

And sometimes I'm honey.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

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SPEAKER_03 47:00

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