The Social Dialogue

The Story Behind the Story, with guest Benji Rosenzweig

Shane & Jenna Season 1 Episode 17

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Welcome to the very first episode of our new series, Great Big Client Conversations, a new series within The Social Dialogue Podcast where Shane sits down with clients of Big Voice Social to talk business, branding, storytelling, and why outsourcing social media can make all the difference.

First up is Benji Rosenzweig, creator of Storied — the wildly fascinating live show and recorded podcast uncovering the untold Jewish stories behind your favorite music.

Benji shares how his lifelong love of music, storytelling, and Jewish identity collided after October 7th to create Storied. What started as a search for positive Jewish narratives evolved into a powerful platform spotlighting the Jewish contributors behind artists and genres like The Beatles, the grunge movement, reggae, and more.

Shane and Benji talk about:

  • The emotional inspiration behind Storied
  • How music videos helped Benji’s special needs daughter communicate emotionally
  • The hidden Jewish connections behind iconic bands and artists
  • Why nostalgia and storytelling create powerful community
  • The challenge of building an authentic social media presence in a noisy online world
  • What  pushed Benji to outsource social media support to Big Voice Social
  • Why relatable, human content matters more than “viral”
  • Touring Storied live shows across North America

Benji also shares stories about interviewing guests like Jonah Platt, Judy Gold, and John Ondrasik of Five for Fighting, plus how the newest Storied production highlighting Jewish women in music came together.

This conversation is part business discussion, part social media strategy talk, and part deep dive into the power of storytelling and identity.

If you love music history, behind-the-scenes stories, Jewish culture, entrepreneurship, or authentic conversations about content creation and branding, this episode is for you.

Listen to Storied wherever you get your podcasts and follow along on social for upcoming live shows and tour announcements.

NOTE: We mention in the episode about live shows happening outside of the Detroit area and that they weren't yet public (we recorded this in late April). Well that's changed! If you're in Windsor, Ontario, the Storied live show is coming to you Thursday, June 4th. Details are here: 

https://jewishwindsor.org/event/storied-concert/

Follow Storied Show and connect with us: 

https://www.instagram.com/storiedshow/

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61578011007290

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCocGagsPJFjlC8Uvic02aig

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/storied-the-untold-jewish-stories-behind-your/id1837473877


Keywords: Jewish stories, music history podcast, Storied podcast, Benji Rosenzweig, Beatles history, Jewish contributions to music, social media marketing, Big Voice Social, storytelling podcast, Jewish culture, music documentaries, grunge history, reggae history, podcast marketing, entrepreneurship

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SPEAKER_00

It's emotionally difficult, right? Um and I just wanted to look at positive Jewish content and positive Jewish stories. And with my experience and love of the music industry, that's where I gravitated to. And so Story's whole agenda is just to look at the positive Jewish narratives.

SPEAKER_02

Welcome to the Social Dialogue Podcast. We're a mother-daughter team, both working in the world of social media management.

SPEAKER_01

Join us as we share our different perspectives on life today, including trends, fashion, friendships, and career, and how social media impacts it all. Together, we bring two different perspectives to one conversation. I'm Shane and I'm Jenna.

SPEAKER_02

And we're excited to bring you this new episode of the Social Dialogue Podcast. We are starting a new segment here where sometimes Jenna doesn't join me because she's graduating. She's got a lot going on. She's like Mamaya Finals. So I thought this would be a good time to start doing client conversations. So you're my first client that I'm having on to kind of talk about who you are, what you do, but also social specifically. So first I'm gonna introduce you. So Benji Rosensweig is my first client today that I'm having on for client conversations. So welcome, Benji.

SPEAKER_00

Hello.

SPEAKER_02

Benji and I work together on his brand Storied, the untold Jewish stories behind your favorite music. Storied is part podcast, part live show. It's a well-researched, well-produced show on both sides of the business, all about how members of the Jewish community were part of what made the Beatles great, what brought the grunge movement to life, what makes reggae special. And now a brand new show tells the story of Jewish women and their contribution to music in all aspects from writing, managing, and performing. Benji was also a panelist at the recent ADL Never Is Now conference that I attended. So I got to sit in his session. And he's very involved in his local community of Detroit. I believe in your spare time, you also have a wife and two daughters. And I think you still do some commercial real estate. Am I right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, in my spare time. In your spare time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, still have to make an make a living.

SPEAKER_02

So you're a little bit busy, but I'm glad that you made time today. We've both had like the Tetra scheme of of calendars lately. So it's good to see you. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely absolutely. Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

So, Benji, I know I introduced you, but tell us a little bit in your words, who you are, what you do, and kind of how you got here.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So I'm thrilled to be here. I am by by trade, I'm a commercial real estate broker. I do a lot of urban development in the city of Detroit. Kind of one of those guys who just enjoys helping small businesses and corporate clients develop and be a part of the retail community. Do a lot of apartment buildings, selling and buying and selling office buildings, things like that. So very dry, not fun to normal people type of real estate work. Uh I'm married, uh, amazing wife, Sarah. We've got two girls, a 16 and a 15-year-old. Ella, our younger daughter, has special needs. She has something called coffin Cyrus syndrome, which is a genetic mutation. When I say rare, I mean there's about 600 known cases in the world. And that condition causes structural defects in the body. The main issue that Ella has is called agenesis of the corpus callosum, which means the corpus callosum, the bridge between the right and the left part of the brain, never formed. So that leaves her, I don't like to use the word nonverbal because while her receptive language is 100%, she doesn't use words, but she's a really good communicator. So she's able to use sign language, some of which is like ASL, uh, sort of traditional sign languages, a lot of it is made up, uh, and it's just sort of a trial and error of us figuring out what she's saying. But we used music videos, and really she used music videos, to learn how to um speak emotionally without using words. And so whether it's Lizzo or Aretha Franklin or Whitney Houston, or I don't know if you're finding the pattern of what Ella likes, RuPaul, these uh sort of music video, uh sort of for lack of better word, emoting, right? Making these gestures that get the point across or facial expressions that get the point across, uh, is how she learned how to build a language. And that turned into us doing a TED talk, specifically talking about this and doing some consulting and public speaking about nonverbal communication and how to use it and special needs advocacy. And so that was that was kind of cool. But after October 7th, all of that sort of went away and there was a just a heavy focus on advocating for our community and talking about what's going on in Israel. And, you know, I come from a world that's pretty liberal and open-minded, and you know, in the I'm in the music community, I'm in the the recovery community, I'm in the special needs community, and uh they kind of turned their backs on us. And I was like, hey guys, we need to we need to have some conversations about truth. And that turned into me advocating for Jews online. It's a long-winded answer, but that's that's how we got here.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and storied really brings the positive side. There's nothing in there where you're like arguing with people. This is just about Jewish stories and Jewish joy. And, you know, that's really what we need. I mean, we we can argue till we're blue in the face with crazy people online, but you know, what you're doing is putting out just factual, wonderful entertainment. The people can just go and enjoy, you know, if they're Jewish, it might be an opportunity to just kind of put the world aside for a minute. And if they're not, maybe they'll learn a thing or two.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So so you you hit the nail on the head. Um, that how this came about, how the story came about was, you know, we after October 7th, we went to bar mitzvah and the bar mitzvah boys talking about hostages and sexual assault and you know, uh unpleasant things. And I'm like, this is appropriate, right? It's it's appropriately difficult and uncomfortable, but how sad it is it that weddings and bar mitzvahs and you know, what should be happy occasions are are emotionally difficult, right? Um, and I just wanted to look at positive Jewish content and positive Jewish stories. And with my experience and love of the music industry, that's where I gravitated to. And so Storied's whole agenda is just to look at the positive Jewish narratives. There's a couple of not positive stories, but for the most part, positive Jewish narratives of where Jews in the Jewish community collaborated and contributed with. And so I focus on really nostalgic genres and bands. So our first show was about the Beatles, and people either love the Beatles or they don't care about the Beatles. Very few people dislike the Beatles. But people were like, oh, you're gonna do the Brian Epstein story. And I'm like, well, Brian's one of 14 stories in this show, and people can't believe that there's 13 other stories in the show. But really, we look at, you know, over decades how Jews collaborated and contributed with the Beatles. And then same thing when we did the Grunge show, people are like, okay, so you're gonna talk about Hillel Slovak. And I'm like, Hillel's one of three Jewish members of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. People are like, there's two other Jewish members. I'm like, yeah, that's that's the that's the crazy thing, is people don't realize that there's so much there. And just being able to tell these stories in situations where like people who love grunge, like really love grunge, you know. In fact, the the music director for that show, when he heard that I was like, you can't do the show without me. You have to hire me to do the show with you. And I'm like, I love that energy. Let's do it. That's and that's that's really what I'm focused on is these positive Jewish stories and building bridges. And and really, like when we did the reggae show, I learned a ton in the research and I realized that like this wasn't as much about building bridges, it was about shining a spotlight on the bridges that exist so that we can use them because we just haven't been using those bridges. And so um, you know, I'm just trying to give people the opportunity to see and understand uh, you know, within the Jewish community, have that pride and outside the Jewish community, like if you don't know this story, like we're we're participating in the joy in your life.

SPEAKER_02

And like, even like we've talked about the dead show, that we you could bring that really anywhere. It just it doesn't have to be a Jewish audience. There's a lot of dead fans out there. And they just may learn a few stories that they didn't know before. So, okay, here's my question. I've never asked you this before. Did you know a lot of this before, or has it come through research? Because your knowledge base about the behind the scenes of these of the Beatles and then of the genres, I mean, you have a wealth of knowledge. Did you grow up knowing all of this or has have you learned a lot of it over the past few years?

SPEAKER_00

That's a great question. So, my favorite show when I was a kid growing up was VH1 Storytellers and VH1 Behind the Music and MTV Storytellers. Like those sorts sort of like behind the music shows were my favorite. And so in the women's show when we did the Sharon Osborne story, like most of the stuff that I talked about were things that I saw in an episode about Ozzy and Black Sabbath in 1998. Like I knew that that stuff was there because I I really love that content. And every time there's like a documentary that comes out about a band that I love, like I'll watch it and I enjoy learning those stories. In fact, my email, why you jam, right? So I went to Yeshiva University and I had a radio show at Yeshiva University called Why You Jam with the double entendre of why you. But the whole show was looking at what made the musicians write those albums, write those songs, like what made them tick. Like that's just a subject that I've always enjoyed. And so I didn't know everything that I talk about. I I've done hundreds of hours of research, but I knew what stories I was pursuing, and I knew what rocks to look under and what like rabbit holes to go on to find these stories. I did a ton of research, especially on the Beatles stuff. I didn't know a lot of the stuff that that I found. But like in the in the Grun show, I knew I gotta uncover these conversations about Chris Cornell because I knew that there was something there, but I never really explored it. So, you know, being able to like get through. So Chris Cornell was married to a woman named Susan, uh, Susan Silver, who's a Jewish, she's still around. She's a Jewish woman who's was the business manager for Allison Chains. I didn't realize that she worked with Allison Chains and also didn't realize that Pearl Jam tried to hire her, but she was like, hey, that's a conflict of interest if I work with you and with Allison Chains while she's married to Chris Cornell. And so she actually introduced Pearl Jam to the guy who ended up working for them. And she was like, Yeah, the only regret I have in my life is that I didn't work with Pearl Jam. But when they were inducted into the Hall of Fame, they were like, Susan is the reason why we're here. So, like that's this woman's, yeah. So she's like, she's a powerhouse in the grunge scene that I knew of, but didn't really know the whole story. And through this research, I was able to tell this story about Susan Silver. And we talked about her in the in the women's show a couple weeks ago, but like those types of stories I love.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And and knowing the rabbit holes and then not knowing what else I'm gonna find is really exciting for me.

SPEAKER_02

You've had some really cool guests. I mean, you've had you had the Beatles hairdresser. That is the coolest thing. You've had some people on there that I didn't even know would be related to these. Like Jonah Platt, I know is in the music industry, sort of. I mean, his father, you know, he's he's in the industry, but like he's really knowledgeable on the subjects that you asked him about. And then like Amanda Markowitz, who I started following after October 7th, had no idea that she knew so much about the subject. She was great. Judy Gold was great. And these aren't people that I would think, oh, they're my go-to for information about the Beatles, you know. So you've done a good job of bringing in podcast guests who aren't necessarily like who you would think of. And then you've also got people directly in the music industry. So, and some big names. I mean, you've got some big names as your guests. So it's pretty cool how you've gotten them.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Thank you. Well, our mutual friend Leanne is a big, big part of why I was able to get some of those guests. Jonah Platt is a great example. So people listening might know Jonah from his Being Jewish podcast. They might know him as Fiero from Wicked or an actor who's been in a number of different uh different things. But Jonah is a musician who is a Beatles super fan. And when you start talking about the Beatles, like his eyes light up and like he knows a lot and he really has a ton of knowledge uh on the subject. And so when we're talking about storage, he's like, listen, man, when you come to LA, if you do the show, I'm performing. Like I'm I'm in on this. You know, that's so cool. Okay. Yeah. So he's but he's a he's a great example of somebody who, like you said, is not necessarily somebody that we would think of as the Beatles expert. If you go to one of his shows, he always covers a Beatles song because he loves the Beatles. Yeah. On the flip side, you look at somebody like John Andresak from Fi for Fighting, who's a real musician. Air quotes there's for those who are listening, right? Like he's in the music industry. He's been in the music industry for 30 years a ton about the Beatles. And I'm grateful that he's passionate about the Jewish community and about Israel and is willing to take his time to talk about what's going on.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And it was it was a great conversation. Definitely go look for storied everybody. It's on YouTube, it's on podcast channels, it's everywhere you we like to listen, as we like to say.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And I will say, you know, Jonah Platt is one, I'm a big fan of his podcast. He's on my regular. I listen to him when I walk. And he, I don't know if it's actually him or not, but you get DMs back from him if you message him. It's really, I mean, it really feels like it's him. So if it's not him, that it's somebody really good at doing what I do.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's him. It's him. Let's talk to him about it.

SPEAKER_02

That's awesome. So yeah, he's he's great. But a lot of them, I mean I've listened to all the episodes. Sometimes I watch on YouTube, sometimes I listen while I'm walking, but I learn a lot. I mean, I've learned a ton about the Beatles. That why would I know this information? So it's it's great what you've done. I'm excited to see what comes next. And I know, you know, tell us a little bit about how the women's show came together because I know that's brand new. You've done it once, but you are taking it on the road. In fact, all of the shows are available to go on the road. But you had Dr. Logan Lovkoff as your moderator at the Detroit show at the Berman Center. So tell us a little bit about how you kind of pulled that together because there were so many women featured, not just singers, but all kinds of people from the music industry.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So Logan is incredible. Um, I'm a big fan of hers. I think that she's got a good head on her shoulders and is passionate about the Jewish community and passionate about life. And I just I'm a fan of hers. I think she's great. I was looking most shows is me talking and then the band plays a song. And then it's me talking and the band plays a song. And uh, you know, the origin of this show was really when we were doing the reggae, when I was writing the script for the reggae show, I realized that all of the stories were about men. And there were two stories that mentioned women, and I was like, wow, that's underrepresentation in a, you know, realizing that in that genre, that's just what it looks like. And I was like, okay, my next show has to be focused on women and Jewish women. And then there was this, I did the math because I'm a spreadsheet guy. So I'm like, in the first four shows, we've got 65 stories that mention like 300 different Jewish people. Of those 65 stories, there's seven stories about women, and there's about 30 or 40 women mentioned. And I'm like, okay, there's some underrepresentation here, and we're gonna have to correct that. And so I started writing the script. And as I was writing the script, I'm like, it's gonna be weird to have me in front of an all-female band telling these stories because I can't describe what it feels to be a young girl listening to Barbara Streisand, right? I can't describe firsthand what it felt like to be a young woman listening to Amy Winehouse and seeing her, you know, cultural effects and fashion, you know. And I was like, I gotta, I gotta bring somebody in. There were a few people who suggested that I just hand my script to somebody else. And then I was like, well, that doesn't seem authentic either. A, because it might show, but B, like it'd be strange to just hand the script and be like, here, read this words performing monkey. Like, that's not that's not I don't think that that's the experience that anybody's looking for. And so the idea of a co-narrator, right? Like somebody to bounce these ideas off of, it was really scary because, you know, I'm not used to that experience. And so I spent a lot of time with Logan prepping and saying, like, this is not a script, this is an outline. What else should we be talking about? What else do you want to mention? What others? And she contributed a lot to the this is the story that we should tell, or we should say it this way, or I have this to add. And so this wasn't my script, this was my outline. And Logan really contributed a ton to the formation of the words. And then she's a pro. So she studied the material. I think we rehearsed, you know, a number of times where we went back and forth on the stories, and it went so well that people after the fact were like, Benji, you should have a co-moderator or co-narrator with you every time. And I'm like, that was not the result that I was working on, you know. And they're like, well, we got to find people because the the bouncing off of each other went well. And I'm like, uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, so I don't know what that I don't know what that means for the future. What it means for this is that this show went well. That's good. And I'm really, I'm really grateful for that.

SPEAKER_02

That's great. And you've got shows coming up in other cities. Will you tell people where they can find you next? Are they public?

SPEAKER_00

They're not public yet. But we we have yeah, so we have watch the socials.

SPEAKER_02

We'll tell you on social.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. So we have we have a Beatles show scheduled. It's international, it's in Canada. So we'll be doing the Beatles show in Canada. We're actually working on doing the dead show in Canada later this year, also. We are doing the reggae show again later this summer on the other side of the country. Lots of announcements coming soon. But yeah, we we would love to bring storied to any Jewish community that would want to see our production.

SPEAKER_02

And a super cool plug about the reggae show is that you have a special guest that comes on stage with you, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. So we we do this show with Matasyahu, who comes out and it's really cool to see him. He doesn't do all the songs, but he comes out and he adds to the show, and it's really cool to sort of see that nonlinear line of progression. So just to explain what I'm saying, one of the beautiful things about the reggae show is not just about the Jewish contributors, it's really about the Jewish content and the idea that Rastafarianism draws from the same well as Judaism, and so much of the ethos and theology and ideas behind Rastafarianism, it comes from Judaism. And so when they talk about Babylon and Zion and so many lyrics that come from Tahilim Psalms and other places in the Tanakh, and most people don't know that. And so I really dig into those crossovers and then say, okay, now we're going in the other direction. We've got Matasiahu who took that same conversation in the other direction, and he drew from the old Rastafarianism or the old Rastafarians and the old reggae tunes clearly learned so much from them and and in a very respectful way that became a two-way street. And I think that that's really cool.

SPEAKER_02

It's really cool. And to anyone out there listening who isn't familiar with Matisiahu, if you send your kid to Jewish camp, they learn the song one day. And that is Matusahi. That's how I learned him. Um it's a beautiful song. Was sang at my kids' bar and bot mitzvah. So okay, so I'm gonna shift gears a little bit because we talk about social media on here. So I want to talk a little bit about how you started marketing storied and how you sort of looked at social media. I came into the picture when December, January, something like that. Yeah, and really in more of a supportive role. My role here is to push out content. I know that you're doing so. If somebody messages, they're talking to you, they're not talking to me. So that is all 100% authentic. But, you know, learning a lot about your voice and the storied voice. But before you got to that point, what was sort of the impetus for we need to outsource at least part of this social media? I mean, I guess why'd you call me?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, the the answer is very simple, and that is time and energy. You know, social media takes time. You know, one of the things that that I don't know what the language content uh restrictions are here, but one of the things that really pisses me off about social media is Listen, I have you on video with what you said in the Never Is Now panel.

SPEAKER_02

So if anyone hasn't seen that, they can certainly go and find On total. We shared it.

SPEAKER_01

And it was perfect.

SPEAKER_00

The the current social media accounts that are like fake imams and fake rabbis and fake priests that are AI generated that have millions of followers who are reading the same script. It's not reading, it's saying the same script geared towards different communities is infuriating, right? Why are why are why is that why is that popular, right? And the answer is just like in the old news world, if it bleeds, it leads, right? So these unpleasant conversations go viral. But that's few and far between. The real deal social media is relatable content that people can can can have a relationship with, for lack of a better term. And in order to produce that, you need to do one of a few things. You need either need to pop a camera up and, you know, talk to the camera, which is what I do on my personal social media, or you need to be able to take the content that you already have, which we have a ton of at storied. We have hours and hours, dozens of hours of both live show and podcast material and sift through it to pub to publish interesting snippets to drive back to the website or the podcast or the account. And, you know, when you have stuff like Opus Clip and Riverside and, you know, the stuff that if you're doing social media, they're marketing to you. Opus clip is great, but if they give you 30 clips, six of them are usable, you know? And and if you're, pardon my French, if you're dumb enough to just say, I'm gonna publish these 30 clips, you're not gonna get the results that you want. And so you can take the Opus clip, sift through the 30, find the six, adjust the other 24, get it to 15, and then you still got to publish it. And then you still have to respond, and then you still have to write captions, and then you still have to put in links. And that stuff is important to me because I want it to be done well. Um, I want to have a good presence and I want it to represent who we are and I want it to go grow organically. Uh, I just don't have 40 hours in the day. And when I when I figure out how to have 40 hours in the day, Shane, I won't need you anymore. In the meantime, I can, I can give you, hey, here's all of our content. Let's let's get it out there and I can check that off my list and say, you know, it is an investment in my time and energy to hand this over to you. I'm not doing a commercial for you. I'm doing a commercial for, you know, smart people who know how to delegate and have time management skills and saying, you know, if I can have you do this, there's no reason for me to be doing this.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. And we've made adjustments as we've gone. We kind of have changed over the past few months how we, what we're sharing, when we're sharing it, how we're doing it. So, you know, it does, it does take a little bit of a science to figure out what's working and check in the numbers. So anyway, I've learned a ton. I like being, you know, part of your brand, part of your voice. It's a lot of fun. Well, I appreciate it. What's coming up next? If well, first of all, let me ask you a question. I forgot to ask you this. Who's the first concert you ever saw?

SPEAKER_00

There's two answers to that. There's two answers to that because well, actually, there's there's three answers to that. So my my dad was part of a Jewish music world. And so the first concert that I ever saw was probably my dad. My dad wrote the music for a band called the Diaspora Shiva Band, which was a big Jewish band in the late 70s through almost to the late 80s. And so, you know, those were part of my childhood. And then my dad was also friends with and played with Shlomo Karlbach. So, like childhood bands was like that. The first like concert that I went to outside of that was a Jewish band called Schlackrock.

SPEAKER_02

I remember them.

SPEAKER_00

I remember I was like, I was like nine years old and Schlackrock came to Detroit, and it was like the biggest thing in the world. And I still follow Lenny Solomon on social media, and my wife and kids absolutely hate when we're singing, we're like, we're listening to a song, and I go into the schlack rock words, and they're like, that's terrible, don't do that. And I'm like, sorry, that is ingrained in me. And I know those words and forever grateful to Lenny and the Schlockers for, you know, the Jewish education that I got from them. Outside the Jewish world, the first concert I ever saw was uh double-billed Foo Fighters and Red Hot Chili Peppers. And um, that was in 1997 or 1998. Uh, I don't remember. Uh, but me and my friends argued over whether it was the Foo Fighters with the Red Hot Chili Peppers playing after them or were the Foo Fighters opening for the Red Hot Chili Peppers? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I guess one of life's mysteries, you'll never know.

SPEAKER_00

Especially since they were swapping. So one night the Chili Peppers would open and one night the Foo Fighters would open, and it went back and forth. So there was truly no headliner. They were co-headlining, and uh it was it was awesome. I think I saw three shows on that tour, which set me up for being a uh, you know, deadhead fish fan who would go to countless concerts, you know, I'd see fish. I think I saw them like 60 plus times in 2003 and 2004.

SPEAKER_02

That's a lot. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, my brother's a huge rush fan. He's like, I've seen Rush 12 times. And I'm like, I've seen fish 12 times in a month, you know?

SPEAKER_02

Uh so that's awesome. My first concert ever, my parents took my brother and I too, I was in like fourth grade. We went to Freedom Hall here in Louisville to see Kenny and Dolly. And I did not want to go. I was mortified that this is what we were doing. I took my walk man and I listened to Michael Jackson the entire time, which is so appalling and embarrassing. If I had the chance to see Kenny and Dolly today, do you know what I would give? Like, what a brat I was.

SPEAKER_00

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_02

What is the next concert you're headed to?

SPEAKER_00

The next concert that I'm headed to. That's a good question. I mentioned my daughter's got special needs. We went through a pretty rough couple of years where she was in the hospital a lot. So I stopped buying tickets to concerts in advance, except for a rare, like, I'm definitely buying that and you know, we'll figure it out if we can't go. So I generally don't buy tickets to concerts in advance. But uh Susan Tedesky and Derek Trucks have a band called the Derek Trucks Band. And um that is my wife's favorite band. Uh, and we have tickets, they'll be here later this summer. But I'm sure that there's gonna be a few shows that we see before then.

SPEAKER_02

So very cool.

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

My next show, I'm going to see Bon Jovi at MSG this summer with my husband and my best friend, her husband. And I can't wait. I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_00

It's terrible.

SPEAKER_02

I cannot wait because we watched the documentary and we're like, this could be it. This could be the last time he tours. So I'm very excited.

SPEAKER_00

The most surprising show that I wasn't expecting to enjoy that I really did was Bruce Springsteen.

SPEAKER_02

I loved it. Loved it. I saw it in Atlanta. So good.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not a Bruce Springsteen fan in general. He I I almost laugh every time I see him sing because he always looks like he's about to have an aneurysm and there's like a vein popping out of his neck and the thing bulging out of his forehead. I'm like, dude, you're gonna have a heart attack on stage. But he played in Detroit at Little Caesars Arena, and a friend of mine had a suite and we went and it was great. And I was like, this is entertaining, but I feel like I've seen it once. I never have to see it again. But I watched the documentary that that they made, the move or the movie in that documentary. Right, yeah. And I was like, you know, I'd love to see like a solo acoustic Bruce Brett. I don't think he does that anymore. So yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

That's cool. My wish list, I I want to see Pink at the Sphere. She's going to the sphere next year, and I think it's next year. I really want to go. I've seen her twice. She's a great performer. I would love to see her. And, you know, she has Jewish women, so that's another thing. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

She's one of the stories in story.

SPEAKER_02

I know. Yeah. She's up on the screen behind your picture.

SPEAKER_00

So that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02

All right. So, Benji, for people who don't yet follow Story, tell everybody all the ways that they can engage, follow you, connect, watch the show, all of that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So I'm really easy to find on social media. I'm at Benji Rosenswag. Storied on Instagram is storage at storied show. Same thing with YouTube and Facebook. It's just at storied show. If you listen to podcasts on Apple or Spotify, storied is a word. There's like 18 different storied podcasts. So you're going to want to search like storied Jewish music and it'll come up. It's storied the untold Jewish stories behind your favorite music. And it's there. But yeah, that's that's how that's how you can find us. And we respond to messages. We, I mean I uh I respond to messages and I, you know, I have those conversations. Um, you know, if you are part of an organization, whether it's a federation or a JCC or a school, you know, we we want to have these conversations and do the show. And actually, speaking of school, if I may plug something that's coming up, so we started teaching a curriculum about storied at Franklin Jewish Academy here in Michigan. And we're we're working on making this a curriculum that any school or adult Jewish education program can teach. And, you know, like a like a Jewish senior learning program at a JCC, like we'll hand you the information, and it's a curriculum that you can teach anywhere. And so I'm really looking forward to sort of finishing building that out and and finding these opportunities.

SPEAKER_02

You're one busy man.

SPEAKER_00

Correct. I have a wonderful team who's helping me keep it all together.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Well, I'm glad to be on it. Thank you for coming on the social dialogue podcast today. It's awesome to see you and keep doing what you're doing. We need it out there.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you, Shane.

SPEAKER_02

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SPEAKER_01

Keep the dialogue going with us on social. Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and YouTube. I'm Shane, and I'm Jenna. Thanks for listening.