Episode 32 Wrapping up Article One

Thanks for stopping by! R.J. and Fred start off with a short summary of their week and R.J. gets into a personal struggle he has had. After this the guys finish up article one of the constitution by talking sections eight through ten. Next Fred introduces this week's wildcard, submitted by a listener. This topic ties in well with R.J.'s earlier struggle. Enjoy!

Resources:

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/full-text

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/criminal-defense/writ-of-habeas-corpus/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law

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SPEAKER_00 0:13

Hello, and welcome to This Is Today Show. I'm your host, Arjun Cole, and I'm Fred Grant. Thank you for tuning in to another episode. Our show is also on video. You can find our videos on Rumble and on YouTube. Our podcasts can be found on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and also iHeartRadio. If you like our show, we would ask that you subscribe, follow, and also write us a wonderful five-star review. We do have a few ways for you to interact with us. You can email our show at thisisthedayshow at gmail.com. We can be found on X by searching for at This Is The Day Show without the W, and on Facebook by searching for This Is The Day Show. Our podcast providers have given us some new features. If you like, you can text our show, select the episode that you're about to listen to, look on the top left of the episode, and it'll say send us fan mail. Click on that to send us a message, and now you can send us a voicemail. We can also reply to your messages now. So feel free to send us any questions, feedback, or interest that you may have for the show. Thank you for the continued promotion and support for us. And here we go. Hey bud, how was your week? My week was uh pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

Uh seemed kind of I don't know, I'd say a normal week. Uh work-wise, long days starting to pick up. Um so that's good. Makes for the days to be a little bit shorter, I guess, as far as like you're busy working. Uh today the kids were just crazy when I got home and um like at each other, like subtle stuff, just kind of provoking one another. Um and then yeah. Um crazy weather but fun stuff. Yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

Yeah. How was your week? Um, my week was very busy. Work needed me a lot this week, and um, I could definitely feel it. I can feel the stress and everything else, but uh got a lot of hours, and um yeah, I've been debating whether I was gonna do a call to action because Wednesday I just had a rough day. So I guess maybe I'll vent. We'll we'll see where it goes from there. But Wednesday, it was okay day in the morning, and then I get a call from my wife, and they're just she usually checks in and tells me how her day's going, and um they were at the park, and they were playing at the park, her and the two kids, and I believe her friend showed up a little bit later, but um, they were playing, and at one point my wife is just like, Man, you know, our boy really needs a brother, and I'm like, Yeah, like that kind of cut me deep, and I'm maybe I'm looking into too much, but I'm like, man, I really need to be around more. So um we were just talking, and you know, dad guilt maybe a little bit. I uh maybe I'll share the meme on there, but there's a meme of like Spider-Man holding the train back, and he has all he's out like this, and he's outstretched. And uh Toby Maguire one, yeah. Feels like you're doing your your dad too, you know, you're doing all these things, and I don't even have time for my family. Like this week, um I may have seen my kids. I see them every morning, but then I think I saw them on Thursday night during the storm, and I was able to see them tonight for a little bit before I had to go do something else after work. So just I don't know, man. Like, it's just it's very hard, it's very frustrating. You know, I'm I'm doing what I'm supposed to. Probably like a lot of you out there, um, I'm working, providing so my wife can stay home, so our kids will have things, nothing in excess, remember. I talked, I believe, early on when I spoke about that one gentleman that told me um his family advice would be not working so much, you know, not giving his family so much stuff, but not working so much because there's only so much time you have, right? More or less. And uh so I don't feel like I'm doing excess things, you know. I'm still donating plasma to try to make ends meet, you know. And uh just just really feeling the dad guilt this week. And I I spoke to somebody candidly on the phone, and we were chatting about it, and you know, they were telling me, like, you're doing what you're supposed to, you know, but ultimately it's you gotta make the best out of what you're doing, whatever time you do have, and it's and it's very hard because like this weekend, um I had gotten off of work, so this week I'm I'm busy, right? So I work usually 8, 8:30, and then um I think I work two 12s this week, and maybe two 11s and a 9, or I don't know. It was a long time, and so by the time I'm home, most of the time kids already in bed. So already missed out on that. I gotta spend time with my wife, we get to chill for a little bit before we go to bed, and then um that's during the week, and then if I do get off a little bit early, they go to bed at 7:30. So most of the time if I do get off, it might be like 7, so I gotta tuck them into bed. That's all I get. And then on this weekend for a prime example, I have three mowing jobs to do. I have a meeting in the morning, but then also my wife has something in the afternoon tomorrow, so I gotta babysit my boy, and um yeah, and I think I have to do all that within most of that, all done tomorrow, and have to donate tomorrow too, so I can push my own lawn off to the side on Sunday if I need to, or next week, who cares, right? So just I was talking with this person candidly, and I'm like, I have all this stuff, like, how am I supposed to do it? I don't know how you did it, and that's when they gave me the comment of making the most time of what you got, you know. Um, whenever you do get that block of time, just make sure you're present with them, loving on them, having fun with them, and uh but it's just I don't know, it's just so hard. It almost feels like you schedule out your family, and it's not even doing work on my own house yet, you know, it's just lawn care. And uh you just so like I'm gonna try my best this summer. Like, I don't know what else to do other than try to include maybe him. Like, if I'm painting the house, maybe I'll just have him right next to me and have him painting with me. I and my daughter too, like I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

The struggle that you might face with having them help, and it shouldn't be a struggle, it sounds bad to say it that way, but it like you add, even if you were to add another adult that doesn't know what they're doing, it's gonna take you longer. You had a child, especially younger ones, the attention spans, um, like they're going to be excited at first, so they're not gonna listen to anything, really. Um, but then it turns into I'm just spending time with my dad, I'm helping dad, and that's a big person thing, you know. Um but it's uh because I've reached that point where I'm like like my son with the bathroom model and stuff, he he like would come in and help and turned into really he just talked to me, ask me questions and stuff, and then like sleep, like he'd clean up a lot, hand me stuff. Um but even like my son's even a little bit older than your oldest, so it's a little bit different. Um but it I know it's it's one of those things where you're like my biggest struggle, I guess. Man, I just feel like we're having a heart to heart here. Like this is my struggle as a dad. Mine is like I'll struggle with work and I'll try to just leave work at work, but obviously you're gonna take whatever happens with you home a little bit, and on the really bad days, like I just wanna just check out for a little bit. Well, a little bit turns into a lot of bit, um, as far as like I'll just dumb scroll or whatever. Um, or lately, what I've been trying to do is like, okay, just give me like 30 minutes. I'm gonna button up some like we do daily work reports, so I'll just do that work report real quick, and then maybe um check out the podcast show notes or you know, kind of work on that a little bit to get my mind off of work and focus on something else, and then bam, I'm home and I'm present. Obviously, when I first get home, I greet everybody and like yay, and it's like the excitement, and then it just goes to crazy, you know. But um my thing is I'm like I struggle with I feel like there's some days where I'm like, man, I feel like I didn't even spend any time with that that particular child, and it's just like but these ones, like I needed to be present with this maybe the the two of these kids rather than that one, or um so it's it's I don't know, it's frustrating. Um I I'm doing 10 hour days and I'm like dude I I hate it because like it's your whole thing, you know, like you would know, you know, 12 hour days and stuff like that, and it's just like being able to I guess do the things you want with that energy that you gave to your company, you know what I mean? Like that has been on my mind a lot where I'm like the people who get my best only get that so that way I can give my children more than you know. I I don't know, it's it's weird, um but I think a lot of that I guess off the air, whatever, like you're you're doing the right thing, like you're working and and providing, and you're you're doing the right stuff, and and it's hopefully it's just the season, you know.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Yeah, um and I and I know all that part. The the thing, and don't anybody take my words out of context here, but you know, you get to a point and then it's just like God has given me this family that I'm supposed to provide for, protect for. I'm supposed to also be the leader, I'm supposed to nurture, I'm supposed to disciple. But if all I'm doing is providing, then I'm not doing anything at home to help out. Like, like I said, don't take me out of context. But why did God give me this family if all I'm doing is working? Yeah, and that's that's been the main struggle this week. So I wanted to just relate with everybody. Um, I'm sure a lot of you are in the same shoes as we are. You got to work a lot, you're providing. So if you want to reach out, you definitely have our email at this istheyshow at gmail.com. You can hit us up on our socials. Um, you can even text our show and we can text you back. Um or you can use a voice message and we can hear your voice. That is true. So we are we are here if you need us. Um, yeah. So that was my call to action this week. My call is I guess whenever you do get that time, make sure you use the most out of it. So tomorrow when I have my boy for a few hours, we're just gonna have some fun. Me and him. So and then mama can deal with them afterwards. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

So but we try to make the most of it. Um even like bath time or whatever, just obviously it's not ideal to sit there and alright, you're clean. I'm wanting to go do other stuff, but it's like, oh yeah, I'll play with toys too.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

Like, this is I feel like it'll get a little easier once they get older and their bedtime goes up a little bit, but then again, I don't want to wish the time away either because this time is so precious and I've already I've already lost so much. But speaking of important topics, yes, want to jump into the main topic? The main topic.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

So we're uh continuing uh back to the basics of our country and continuing with the constitution.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Yes, so we're in article one, still, and uh we're looking at sections eight through ten today. We want to finish article one today. Get that checked out of here, and then we can jump on to the next. So um, if you want, I'll go ahead and start. Alright. So we got section eight, powers of Congress. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. But all duties, imposts, and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States, to borrow money on the credit of the United States, to regulate commerce with foreign nations and among the several states and with the Indian tribes, to establish an uniform rule of naturalization and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States, to coin money, regulate the value thereof, and a foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures to provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States. I do have a question. So when I was reading at the bottom of there, right? So they are to um coin money, regulate the value thereof in a foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures to provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities in current coin of the United States. So, like this is probably gonna be really stupid for all of you, but when it comes to tax rates and stuff like that, right? Um when you're buying your house, the Fed, I think is what it's called. Should the Fed be doing what they're doing? Or is that a whole nother? Are you talking like IRS? I'm talking about like when it talks about like um there was the last guy got fired, I believe. Uh it was for the Fed for all the interest rates, I believe for housing.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

Oh this I don't know if he I don't know why I'm in because I I think I think I've from my understanding, and I I could be way off, and if I am, I apologize, but I feel like the IRS isn't like constitution or constitution, Congress kind of neglected a lot of their responsibility in this aspect as far as but I I feel like this is more than the difference, yeah. This is more like making the money and assigning the value of that money after I read it again. Yeah, it's it's basically saying like okay, the US dollar is equivalent to you know two euros or whatever. Yeah. Because it it does with um yeah, with foreign coin and I don't know. That seems so I guess Congress really did. I think right now at this point in 2026, it's just all plug and play. The the formulas already there. I don't think they're sitting down with the pencil and pen and calculating what the dollar is compared to the peso or whatnot. I think they just change it based on the market, I would imagine. Probably. So it's they don't even do that anymore, is what I'm thinking. They're get out of here.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

So what else are they gonna do? So to establish post offices and post roads to promote the progress of science and useful arts by securing for limited times the authors and inventors the exclusive right to their prospective, sorry, respective writings and discoveries to constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court to define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas and offenses against the law of nations.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

Dump a lot of tax money into the post office of what I read.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

Yeah, don't um but yeah, it's pretty cool that they uh were promoting science and the arts back then, but then also um like the exclusive rights it looks like for inventors and authors, like we were speaking off air, and almost not like copyright.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Copyright, trade rights, uh trademark, trademark, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Yeah, um almost their exclusive product gets to be theirs, yeah. Patent, that's the word patent, patent, yeah. Yes, not general patent, no patent, yes, great guy, friend of the show, and then of course the high seas. But anywho, I should have put that on the next section. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

No, you're good. Kind of, but yeah, it kind of I when I thought of that, I thought of like you know, when you hear about like international waters and then boom, they hit the coast of this country, stuff like that. So yeah, like we I don't know where our ocean lines are, which is crazy to me that like this is our line of the ocean. Once you hit that, then you've hit American waters. That's pretty pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

Yeah. To declare war, grant letters of Mark Marquet and reprisal and make rules concerning captures on land and water, to raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years. To provide and maintain a navy, to make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces, to provide for calling forth the militia, to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions, to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states, respectively, the appointment of the officers and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress. Did you know? Probably not. When did Congress last declare war? I know it was because Vietnam.

SPEAKER_02 20:45

You don't have to tell me a time you can tell me it was. Yeah, Vietnam was not. I don't even think the Korean War was technically a war, was it? Was it declared war by Congress? I'm not telling you. Is that your friend answer? No. I'm I'm thinking it out for sure. World War II. Like I want to get it right. That's why I know the Gulf War wasn't considered the war. I'm gonna say Korea. World War II was the last time Congress declared a war. Declared a war. That's because everything else is just acts of war.

SPEAKER_00 21:19

And we complain and convetch about people starting war or strike, but yet Congress doesn't do their job to implement it. Instead, we just complain about things. Yeah, but I thought that was very fascinating.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

I think it's very interesting that it's it's specifically talking about a navy in there, too.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

Like well, they really like their high seas.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

As we could tell through here, the last one was talking about piracies and felonies committed on the international waters. Yeah. Or on the high seas. RCs, yeah, man. Gotta protect our coast. So yeah. Okay, jump to the next part. To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever over such district not exceeding ten miles square as may by session of particular states in the acceptance of Congress become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings, and to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States or in any department or officer thereof. That was mouthful. That was. Yeah, because back then. Yeah, I don't know what that and it seems like it's some military building. Because for its Arsenal's dockyards magazines, so yeah. It was for the Sears catalogs. It was pretty big back then. Did you know Sears nine? Just kidding. Nah nah. And that's section eight. Section nine, these are powers denied Congress. The migration or importation of such persons as any of the states now existing shall think proper to admit shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight. So eighteen oh eight. But a tax or duty may be imposed on such importation not exceeding ten dollars for each person. And I mark so I was doing all this stuff, figuring this stuff out, writing it up. And um on the website that I used, they did a little box, I guess kind of letting me know what it was originally for. So in the notes, it was told to me that this obsolete provision was designed to protect the slave trade from congressional restriction for a period of time. Yes. Obviously, not for forever.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Until 18.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

Yeah. I don't know when the slavery became illegal. I feel like I should have had that all the cut, but we can't know everything. So if we did slavery, still this would cover that. But since we don't it'd be a very cheap fee,$10 per person. Oh, I'm sure they would have raised that.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

It is Congress, right?

SPEAKER_02 25:07

They would have raised it and pocketed it, voted themselves raises.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

I'm trying to think of in my head. Yeah, they would have done something. Alright, moving on. The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus. So here's the explanation of writ of habeas corpus. It is a court order that brings a defendant who is in jail or government custody in front of a judge and requires the government to prove that there is a valid reason the defendant is in jail or is being held. So the privilege of this shall not be suspended unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it. No bill or attainer or ex post facto law. And that explanation is a law that retrospectively changes the legal consequences or status of actions that were committed or relationships that existed before the enactment of the law. So that shall be passed. Sorry, no bill or attainer or ex post facto law shall be passed. You know what that means.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

Like if if I committed a crime, but it was legal at the time. Oh, if it changed, yeah. So let's say slavery. I'm I'm importing slavery. Yep. Um, and then they try to say I did an illegal act. Well, back then it was legal. So then I can't be tried for that, is how that goes. Which makes me wonder how much that actually happened, like historically.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

I mean, I feel like I feel like a lot of people try to do that to go after certain people, but or maybe if they knew something was going on, get it out of your system before it pops up. Yeah. Caught when insider trading, but with laws, dude. Yeah.

unknown 27:08

Crazy.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

No capitation or other direct tax shall be laid unless in proportion to the census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken. No tax or duty shall be laid on articles exported from any state.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

You can't like export export tax higher to get something out of California to bring it to Iowa. It's all equal in the states.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

That's how it's supposed to be. No preference shall be given by any regulation of commerce or revenue to the ports of one state over those of another, nor shall vessels bound to or from one state be obliged to enter, clear, or pay duties in another. No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law, and a regular statement and account of the receipts and expenditures of all public money shall be published from time to time. And except if you have to keep secrecy. I I wonder. Like so, since this is in our constitution, so everything that they spend money on, it's supposed to be viewable.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:39

Everything.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Yeah. It's supposed to be, but I think they hide behind the secrecy. Judgment of secrecy, yeah. Like blot out a name, blot out the dollar. Just like yeah. Yeah. Gosh. Yeah. But I wonder if they foresaw like people having like ownership of certain ports and stuff, like businesses and stuff. Because they're just like they're Congress, so they're normal. Back then, they were normal men. They they labored farmers, you know. Yeah, they did everything else, maybe they own stuff, like you know, but I wonder if they're like, hey, this could become a problem, so let's not allow Congress to favor a business, a stock, or in this case they say ports or states, cities, and then like there's I know a guy that literally follows a Congress person's Congress members' portfolio, like, because they seem to be doing really well, you know, and it's like pretty sure that's not constitutional. That because I I can't remember when Biden got in office, how magically everything went clean energy and all this stuff. You can feel how you want about clean energy, but like a lot of the Congress members had stock in foreign energy that just spiked as a result of that, and it's like, how is that not conflict of interest minimum, you know? And then reading the Constitution, it literally says, like, Congress should not do this. Yeah, I don't know. Sorry, a little soapbox.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Yeah, because I believe they said Nancy Pelosi, or maybe it's Paul Pelosi. I don't know how the workarounds work, so you have to forgive me. But um, I believe her rate of returns, I believe it was last year, was higher than Warren Buffett's even more. Yeah, yeah. It's magic. This is my favorite part. The next part is my favorite part. No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States, and no person holding any office or profit or trust under them shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present annulment, office, or title of any kind whatsoever from any king, prince, or foreign state. I really like that. No title or nobility.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

I won't be knighted in the United States of America. Sir Frederick. Gonna have to go to England for that one.

SPEAKER_00 31:36

And I guess my song just doesn't work here. Oh, I just I can't wait to be king. Yes, yes. Yeah, not here. Nope, not in America. It's America. America. Hey, I even heard whenever uh King Charles, whenever he comes, obviously I don't need anybody's permission, but I don't even have to bow to the dude when he's over here. Hey dude. Yep. What's up, baby? Shouldn't have lost. No kings here. Alright. Section 10, you ready? We are flying. This is good. Alright. Section 10. Powers denied to the states. And this is all one section. No state shall enter into a treaty, alliance, or confederation. Like Star Wars. Yes. Grant letters of mark marquet and reprisal, coin money, emit bills of credit, making anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payments of debts. Pass any bill. Sorry. Pass any bill of attainder ex post facto law or law impairing the obligation of contracts or grant any title of nobility. No state shall, without the Congress, sorry, without the consent of the Congress, lay any imposts or duties on imports or exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing its inspection laws. And the net produce of all duties and imposts laid by any state on imports or exports shall be for the use of the Treasury of the United States, and all such laws shall be subject to the revision and control of the Congress. No state shall, without the consent of the Congress, lay any date of sorry, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state or with a foreign power or engage in war unless actually invaded or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay. Oh, that would have been that'd have been last year Biden, maybe? When they were starting to say like you had to do by their certain regulations, otherwise you wouldn't be allowed to have your yeah, they weren't gonna buy your pork. Yes, I remember that. I think I think that because and the only reason why that they were worried about it was because obviously there is a lot of people that live in California, so people that raise hogs, pigs would obviously want to ship right over there. But yeah, it's a little ridiculous that you're trying to tell somebody how and what. But I mean, would they really send an inspector anyways? Inspector gadget?

SPEAKER_02 35:00

I don't I don't really think I mean because that right there, you're already raising the price of pork on your state people because you gotta pay for the inspector and then the cost of getting it here or there, you know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

To me, it was you kind of like whenever you have a new um I don't know, I developed this new drink and the USDA needs to know about it, so I just hire my own guys to write out something and ship it to them. Is that the kind of thing? I feel like that's kind of happened to them multiple times. So I don't know. I don't I don't know. I mean, because is that that's what the USDA actually does. They allow your own scientists or whatever to write up the stuff.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

Yeah, you do your do your own case or uh it wouldn't be case studies, I can't remember what they call it, but yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's happened a few times. So uh, but yeah, I thought of that with this, and then I thought of uh I don't know, just kind of the the closest that's happened in our lifetime has been when Texas kind of started a little treaty, and I think it was I want to say they tried to sue basically the country or something. I cannot remember because it was around the time Roe v.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

Wade got overturned, but I think it was it was a separate issue, but I cannot remember what it was because I think it was Texas the border wall with the water, it was around like a lake or something, I thought, and then I think the government was telling that they couldn't have something.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

I just remember Texas, Missouri, and a couple other states, it was probably 12 states in total, kind of joined an alliance on this, and I think it became like a lawsuit toward the government or something, but that's the closest I've ever seen. And then I thought of like obviously the Civil War, but it's that's the the reason why it's written like this. It's kind of to try to keep all the states united and um don't allow one state because they have a large population trying be crazy to all the little states. I think of like New York to Rhode Island, you know, early on is what they're addressing and stuff, and it's like, yeah, keep everything making everybody feel like they're one, but also they're part of the 50.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

They're not, oh hey pal, you and me, we're gonna Texas and California, yeah, we we're just gonna do our own thing. Right.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

Separately from the whole United States. Just because like what are they gonna do? We got this many people, you know, but um yeah. I I don't know. I think I think it's not very often you see a state try and rise up against the whole United States. But there's times that I feel like there's been more times when the federal level tries to dictate and overreach into the state level stuff.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

Yeah, because you'll have a lot of the um attorney generals from every state all get on their letter and everybody back each other and then file it against president if he's doing something unconstitutional or they think he is, or yeah. Yeah. Or if you're just the opposite party, yeah. That's definitely what it's turned into, man. I can't believe that. But she's bickering about parties all the time. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 38:36

Yeah. Well, you know, you gotta show up. 82% You don't have to show up though. 82% of the problem right there, but yeah, yeah. No, I think uh a lot of foresight that they had, um, which again just baffles me that they could not obviously they're human, so they couldn't foresee everything, but they get really specific on a lot of things. And then they're really vague. And I I mean, obviously, 1800s, you don't want people to put a cap on a campaign, although I mean I wish they would have. And then Congress, I feel like, would have just upped it every year like they always do.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

Well, I wonder back then as well. They were paying out of their own pockets for their campaigns, I'm sure. So I'm sure they weren't going nuts so crazy.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

No, they were working hard for their money, and well, and I feel like they would have been local level, like the that's how you would start because people just didn't travel. There's no media as much, yeah. Social media, so yeah, your newspaper would be it, which is typically a local level, you know. So, but then you get recognized, and then it's almost like your delegates promote you, delegates promote you, I feel like, and say, hey, you should run, and then people would back. Because I've always wondered that too, about like whenever you have somebody running for like the president, and you know, he's with the Republican Party, and they're like, Hey, if you don't win, would you endorse this candidate? And I'm always like, dude, nobody like that doesn't matter to me. Yeah, so then but like once upon a time, that would have really mattered, you know. Um, newspapers would have gone crazy with that, like, yeah, you know, Georgia's candidate for you know president endorses this guy and thinks that he's great, you know. But it's just I feel I feel like it's just a nicety question that they throw in, so then everyone's like, Oh yeah, I would because they don't want to be like the mean guy who's telling them how they really feel.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

But which kind of reminds me of uh do you condemn violence? Or yes, I strongly condemn it. Like violence is retarded. Like, why do I have to condemn it?

SPEAKER_02 41:00

Like, like it's just words, it's no action, nobody. I feel like political campaigns have turned into uh like beauty pageants, like Miss American contests, like my dream is world peace and we'll stop starvation.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

And I'm like, you have no idea how to even start that, let alone really want to do that.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

Like, come on. I don't know. Yeah, it's that's what it feels like. No, right it's turning into, if not already. Yeah. So I concur. Do an IQ test for depression.

unknown 41:40

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 41:41

So with that, we'll get into our wildcard. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

Listener question, and as you always say, um, we aren't the smartest, but we're definitely the best, but we try hard. Uh is that the one? No, no, not that one. Crap. You always ask and we deliver. Always.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

Always. So the question from a listener is When did you think you became a man? And what life event confirmed you became a man?

SPEAKER_00 42:31

So I think I became a man at conception, or when now that stuff worked itself out. I think they mean no, I know, I know, especially from who it's coming from. Yeah, yeah, I know. Um so when I thought I became a man was when I got married to my wife. Because then it should have been the ending of just me and the beginning of us. So then that's when I take on my role of my husband duties, and I'm actually providing, protecting, taking care of, um, nurturing her. So then that's when I think, alright, you know, the world has different standards, different ideas, and when that should be. Maybe it could be an age, maybe it could be actions, but uh, that's when I thought I became a man. But looking back, I don't feel like that necessarily was when I became a man. I feel like definitely the second part to this question is what seals it. Um, and maybe when I actually did become a man. And it would have been when not necessarily when my daughter was born and we're chilling in the hospital for those three days, but it's when you get home. That's when reality sinks in, you have your kiddo, and uh your kiddo needs you for everything. And uh there's no nurses around, there's no people around, just you and your wife. I mean, thank goodness my mom was around, but uh Yeah, so that's definitely when it confirmed it to me. Um That this kid was gonna be needing me. I'm gonna be taking care of her. Um that we're a family, like all three of us. I don't have time to just get off work and play video games till I go to bed anymore. Um putting aside some of the childish things and be able to do more and for my family, um, and actually thinking about my family, not necessarily just thinking about myself and what makes me happy and oh I need to do this and that, but no, it's it really got cemented there having my daughter. Right. How about you?

SPEAKER_02 44:40

Um I think I felt like I became a man when I moved out as far as like I went to college, uh, was kind of under on my own, but I don't like that's when a lot of things like became mine rather than my family. Um, like my parents, um, you know, like what I believe really got solidified, and it wasn't my parents' beliefs or you know, my friends or or whoever, you know, it was this is what I believe, and um college is kind of like a dude, it's it's a weird time of life because it's it's almost like a it feels like almost like a fantasy world, I guess. I don't I don't know how to describe it, but like so you're under kind of a protection. Like I I went to a Bible college, so we had rules. Um all colleges have rules. Um, you know, there's certain things you cannot do, and otherwise you get kicked out, expelled, or whatever. Um, but I was operating under that authority and and uh you know those rules and stuff, but for the most part I could do whatever I wanted, you know. Um, so it was like one of those times when I didn't have my parents looking over my shoulder, I didn't have all this stuff, so I was I was able to do whatever I wanted to do. Obviously, I kind of was in a position where the rules were a little more strict or whatever than saying the normal 18-year-old that just goes off to a secular college. But yeah, um with that I would say moving out, I thought for sure, like I'm a big kid, you know, I'm paying my own rent, blah blah blah. Um, but all I really did was, you know, work and then occasionally had a social life, I guess. Um I mean I was still like going to my mom's and eating and stuff, so um, but I would say um I don't want to say when I was engaged, but like prior to I would say probably when I there was a point where it wasn't I was engaged, but like I wasn't living for myself, and even when I was living on my own, I wasn't living for myself because I was working, I mean I worked a lot. Uh like it got to the point where people at work would be like, Hey, are you guys gonna work this weekend so that I don't have to? And I'm like, Yeah, I have to work. So just because I was paying back my student loan, so I was financially responsible and all this stuff, but then if I wanted to, I could do other things. But then there was a point where like I would save up to go visit um my wife who was my fiance, and then it turned into saving up for the wedding, and then turned into saving up stuff for our house and our apartment at the time. But then when I got married, I think is when that kind of like that was the act where it was like like yeah, I have somebody else depending on me. I'm not living for myself, I can't do stupid stuff anymore. Um like I have to almost like like she's counting on me, you know, and obviously it gets deeper as you get kids and stuff, like you were saying, it's like this kid is a hundred percent dependent on me, like they can't do anything. Um and whereas my my wife, obviously, she was an adult or is still, but you know, where it's like, yeah, if I you know, if I didn't come home and grill food, then you know, she could still make herself food and and live. Whereas a child is like, yeah, dude, I but I mean like even when I was paying off my student loans, like there was an obligation uh because uh, you know, frankly, my dad signed, co-signed on a loan and stuff, so it was like I'm not going to do whatever I want. I'm gonna, you know, that's my responsibility, my name, and then worst case it's on my dad after that. But um I don't know. I I feel like it definitely solidified when I became a husband, uh, just because I could not I did I I loved her and I didn't want to like treat her like garbage, I guess. I don't I don't know how to say you know, I don't know how to say that. You know, there are some people who get married and uh you just have a man child, you know, living in the basement, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 49:33

But um so sad to hear about the people that don't want to go home because they just hate their family. I yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:40

I I don't understand that. I told my daughter, cause uh because the birds that live on their front front door, um we uh I've been waking her up so she locks the door. Um and I was like, I just want to go home. And she's like, Dad, you're already home. I was like, I know, but I'm leaving. I just want to come home. Like, because like I feel like the longer and the harder the week, the more I'm just like, I don't even want to go to work. But yeah, being a man is like I don't care how I feel, like I have to go to work, I have to show up, I have to be present, I have to, you know, and and that's what I was thinking about when I'm like my contractor gets those best parts of me as far as my day goes, but I still as a man have to show up and be present and like give my kids, you know, because if you were to hey, which one do you want to live for? Your company or your children? My children, but like I don't day to day, you know. So I don't know. Simple question, long answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

So thank you, theologian. We appreciate the uh the question, it was a good topic this week. Fit right in, I feel like. So all right, man. Do you have anything else you want to throw in? Another shrimp on the bobby? Oh my god, no, nothing, no shrimp. Landlock state of Iowa, man. Not a pirate on the high seas.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

Yeah, no. No, no, I should have done the pirate joke, but I no, I missed it. That door shut. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:32

But all right, let's just get out of here. Yeah, let's do that. Well, thank you for listening once again to this day show. And don't forget to stay. Thank you.