Episode 38 Elections With a Female Perspective

We have another show for you! Nancy Cole is filling in with R.J. Cole this week again. We start things off with our weekly summaries and R.J. gives insight and information from the primary here in Iowa. The duo thought it would be good to discuss elections and involvement from a female side of things. The main reason for this discussion is to see how we can get more people involved. Lastly these two talk about this week's wildcard from a listener. Second chances, do we give them out?

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SPEAKER_00 0:15

Hello and welcome to This Is The Day Show. I'm your host, RJ Cole.

SPEAKER_02 0:20

And I'm Nancy Cole.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Thank you for filling in some big shoes over there.

SPEAKER_02 0:24

Thanks for having me.

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SPEAKER_02 1:44

It was a good week. Um, busy weekend. We got to go on a family bike ride for the first time.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Yes, we did.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

And that was really fun. Um, I fell off the bike, um, but all was well. And how many miles did we do?

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Well, I thought it was 18 or 19. I have no idea, but you thought it was 16.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

I thought it was 16. And surprisingly, for the first time, I didn't for like bike riding for the first time in a long time. I can't tell you the last time I did it, but um, wasn't too terribly sore and nothing like that, so that was good. Um, so we biked from our church all the way to Dairy Queen, and then we rode our bikes back. So that was very fun. A couple hiccups along the way, but that's alright. Um but yeah, and then just kind of got to stay home a couple times during this week. Um, I went on a run on Tuesday, and then um in this park where we usually go to, there's this big giant trail. I want names for privacy and security purposes, but um they build this new park and splash pad, and so we usually walk it around with um a family friend, and um we've been waiting for it to be opened, and finally, I think it was last week, they just opened it, so it's pretty cool. I'm excited to go back again with other friends, and um it was kind of packed, but it wasn't too overwhelming as I thought it was going to be because uh like splash pad is legit in the middle of it, the playground, and one side one side is for younger kiddos, and the other one's for like the bigger kiddos.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

Maybe one's for toddlers and then ones like school, right?

SPEAKER_02 3:57

And so obviously our daughter wanted to go with the bigger kids. Well, then our son wanted to go with smaller kids, so then I kinda had to keep an eye on both, but it wasn't too terrible. We were probably there no joke, almost two and a half hours, and it was blazing hot, but it was so fun, so worth it. We got ice cream afterwards, and then we just went home.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Um did you bring me ice cream?

SPEAKER_02 4:24

I did not, I'm sorry, but I did buy you what we call in Spanish bullies for the week, and I feel like you've really enjoyed those.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Not the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

I mean, they're pretty good. It's it's ice cream, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 4:38

Are they just mine or are they everybody's?

SPEAKER_02 4:40

Well, it's a big pack, so you have to share with everybody. Yeah, what do you guys call them?

SPEAKER_00 4:45

Popsicles.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

You guys call them popsicles, yeah. We call them bullies, so um anyway, but yeah, it was a pretty nice week. Just kind of hung out at home, did some house chores. I deep clean this house um today. And and it oh my goodness. I this wasn't on my agenda, but I have like scroll brain sometimes, so then I kind of do a different little task, and I'm like, okay, this is what I'm gonna do. So then I feel like I had to call you like every five minutes, like, hey, do you want this, or can I throw it out? Like, I was just going through stuff. Oh my goodness. I threw out so much stuff in the front yard. It looked like I was having a garage stuff in my front yard, but people took it, so thank goodness that's out of my hands. And then we did some fun stuff outside, and we just kind of stayed home and relaxed. So fun week, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

Yeah. Uh, what about you? How's your week?

SPEAKER_00 5:55

And shout out to you for mowing for me so I don't have to. I did mow for you, and that's not a normal occurrence because that's my job.

SPEAKER_02 6:04

That is that yes, that is your job. I don't typically ask you if I can mow. I kind of just do it because I know what you're gonna say. I'm like, no, it's okay. You don't have to mow. I got it. Sound, you know, that kind of thing. And but you know, I if it's nice out, I love to be outside. I like I said before, I I'm an extrovert, like to be outside, do fun things like that. I don't know. And um, so then I said, Okay, guys, like since the house is cleaned, it's really, really clean, let's go outside and find something to do. So then I called you up and I said, Hey, because I know you had a lot of things on your plate. So I just called you up and I said, Hey, how mad would you be if I mow the yard? And I think you were just like, Well, I mean, if that's really what you want to do, like you don't have to do it, that kind of thing. So, of course, I had to clean up dog poop first. That was fun. But the kiddos helped me find it, which is kind of hilarious. Um, so then we all picked it up together, and um we just know what was the worst? What?

SPEAKER_00 7:16

I had walking pneumonia and I had to pick that stuff up.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

Really?

SPEAKER_00 7:20

Yeah. Remember the how bad I had coughs and stuff?

SPEAKER_02 7:24

Oh yeah, I remember a lot.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

I feel like it smelled really bad, so like I kind of wanted to throw up at the same time, and I almost wanted to go through cough and someone.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

I remember you telling me that. Yep, yep. So bad. Yeah, I'm sorry. We should have hired somebody during that time, but we didn't. Anyway, no, we didn't. Never mind. Anyways, so the kids helped me out, and you know, it was all good, and then I got to the hills because our backyard kind of, you know, there's like slopes.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Oh my goodness. I'm like, there is no way, no way. I'm I'm gonna I'm like dripping and sweat. And um, yeah, so I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna do the best that I can, and then I like scooted it up around the slope, and then I just kind of mowed it down. I don't know. Whoever was looking at me was probably laughing at me, but I didn't really care. But I got the job done, and then I thought, hmm, you know, that wasn't too terrible. What else can I do to help out? Well then I mowed the front yard, and that wasn't too terrible because we live on a busy street, so mind you, I had the kids with me, and they did really well. They were just standing by the front door so I could mow. I kept my I could like see them, so I kind of kept my eyes on them, and that's nice. But you said I did a good job. Huh? I even blew the grass for you, but I don't know how to use the weed whack, and nobody ever taught me how to use that, so you might just have to teach me someday.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

Well, I don't know an electric one eventually.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

Oh, okay, that'd be nice. But um, yeah, that was my week. How was your week?

SPEAKER_00 9:12

So instead of taking my time to talk about my week, work, the same stuff I feel like I talk about every week, I wanted to focus on this past election here in Iowa. Um, we are gonna get in more detail next week when Fred gets back, but I felt since it just happened, it was big news, it was a big surprise that I should at least cover a little bit of it.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

Right.

SPEAKER_00 9:41

Um so I wanted to congratulate Zach Lane for his win as the Iowa Republican Party nominee for governor. And for those who don't know, it was a very close race. Zach Lane defeated the well-known Republican congressman here in Iowa, and his name's Randy Thienstra. And then Adam Steen, who was originally my guy, he came in third. Okay. So, I'm just gonna tell you how close this race was. So Zach Lane had 38%, and that was 80,338 votes, alright. Thienstra had 37.2% of the vote, and that was 78,713 votes. That means there's only a difference of 1,625 votes. That is super close.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

And like you can see, it was only a 0.8% difference. Um I am very happy with this outcome. Um I don't know if all the viewers are gonna understand why I am happy about it. I know I wasn't super vocal on this part. Um I had talked about pretty much, you know, look, do your research, look who you're voting for. But just don't vote for Fiendstra. That's that's what it was majorly. I told people that Steen was my guy. That's uh that was what I was thinking about. Um so I want to go over a couple of things that kind of will lead me to my final thought on all this to wrap it up in a bow. But Friday, alright, so Friday afternoon last week, right before the primary, which was on Tuesday, it came out and they were almost um side by side, like it was very close. But Trump came out and endorsed Randy Feenstraft. Um, so he waited last possible minute to endorse him to bump up his vote. He was, I believe, second or third on the poll just the day before. And uh he wasn't doing so hot. He has the most name ID. Zach Lane was a a nobody, nobody knew about him. Right. Fiendstra, everybody knows about. Um, I don't necessarily agree with how he does things, but the biggest concern was if Randy Feenstra was voted in, it has been shown that Iowa does not vote Congresspeople into the governor's mansion. They just don't win. Um, I don't think they've ever won it, or if they have, it's been a long, long like decades. Well, um, so that was the big concern because if that's the case and Randy Feenstra would have been the nominee, and he's gonna be going against Rob Sand, I can almost guarantee it that Rob Sand would have won. Alright. So Trump endorsed Randy Feenstra. He wouldn't do it the entire time. Randy Feenstra has been kissing Trump's butt the entire time. You would watch his ads. Randy Feenstra's ads were pretty much hey, Trump's been doing this, Trump did this, Trump did that, he did this, and I'm gonna work with him. No originality, um, just like I said, literally kissing the dude's butt. Um and the other endorsement that came right around the same time that Trump did was an endorsement from TPUSA, which was actually for Randy Feenstra. And as we've talked about, the reason why Fred and I started the show was because Charlie Kirk was murdered last year.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

Right.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

And he was the founder of TPUSA.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

Right.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Turning point. Okay? So they came out and endorsed Zach Lane. And those are two pretty big endorsements. Um hand a little bit more, but um I had heard some talks that in order to get all the graphics right and everything else, this was probably something that they had planned for a while and they were just gonna go out with it. Well, then as they're planning to go out with it, that's when Trump did his endorsement, so yeah. Yeah. But um, so that kind of Friday night that kind of threw me for a loop. I was a little irritated inside because Trump just decided to jump into this thing last minute. He wasn't letting us Iowans just do our thing, pick our people. No, he had to get involved. Um, and I get frustrated with this man um with his endorsements because he will endorse some good people, but then he'll endorse people like Lindsey Graham. You may not know who that is.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

I don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

He is a I believe a senator from South Carolina, North Carolina. I can never get those uh states straight. Speaking of straight, I don't think he is. Um he was caught uh a couple months ago going to Disney World by himself, holding a bubble wand. What normal man in his 60s goes to do?

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Yeah, it's a little bubble wand.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

Um he's just he's just an odd fellow. Maybe I'll have to play you some clips later. But he'll endorse him every single time his bit comes up. Um he just makes very bad choices, in my opinion. There's a lot better candidates out there. And maybe I just need to, like, my opinion, just realize that Trump isn't a conservative like I am. He does a lot of things that I agree with, but maybe fundamentally he isn't a conservative, so that's why he wouldn't be going that way.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Maybe everything is going through his worldview or his lens of how he sees things. Um who can he work with to get the best deal, or who's gonna be a yes man, who's not gonna fight him, who's not gonna go to the right of him. Right. Um so um and Randy Feinstra, yes, he would have been the puppet for Donald Trump. So that endorsement just was really playing heavily on me because I knew Adam Steen was, I believe, third in that poll on Thursday, and then Zach Lane was first, and then Randy Feinstra, I think, was second. So then Trump comes in, and it's like, oh great. Trump usually and he's been pretty much perfect. I think only one other endorsement he's lost other than the governor's race this year so far.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Um, so he bumps up numbers pretty well. Didn't know how well or how yeah, didn't know how well the bump would get him, and luckily it was on Friday he hadn't been given a lot of time to endorse. So I was playing in the back of my mind what should we do? Because um now that Trump jumped in and endorsed and TP USA endorsed too, I just didn't feel like TP USA maybe has the pull like Donald Trump does. So I was just trying to play it out in my head. Well, as you guys know, I love listening to the Steve Day show. That's something that I listen to every day. Uh his show, he's a man from here in Iowa. Um just a great story he has, and he started talk radio as like uh sports, then jumped over to politics, and now he's a national show. Um he's done things well, and um, so I listened to him follow his advice. Um and on Saturday he did something that I'd never I never thought he would do. He was also pulling for Adam Steen. That's who his endorsement was behind, along with Bob Vanderplatz and um the family leader, they all endorsed Adam Steen. And on Saturday, uh Steve Dace had let out a video. And um you guys can find it if you'd like to, but a short summary, more or less, um Steve Dace said that Adam Steen was his guy. That's who he's endorsed, that's who he's gonna vote for. But if people have questions or doubts, or they're not necessarily 100% sure about things, if they're on the train of anybody but Feenstra, his um advice was vote for Zach Lane because he's in the best spot right now to beat Randy Feenstra since he had just came out with that poll and he was first. Um and then obviously the Trump bump. So Lane was gonna need all the help that he could get to get across the finish line. Um so I really thought about that and pondered that all weekend. I even had somebody come up and ask me Sunday who I thought they should vote for. Um, they hadn't been following it too closely. I told them to vote for Zach Lane on Sunday. Um then I also had somebody call me Tuesday, um, and they were asking me my thoughts on the situation. I explained everything that was going on, like I just had, and I said, I would vote for Zach Lane. That's who I'd vote for. So I c I really wanted to apologize to you guys because as I was pondering this stuff over the weekend, I feel like I should have been more transparent. I feel like I should have maybe made a video, even though if it was a short one, like I did for the election day. Just kind of letting you go, you guys know my thought, my process. Not that you guys had to vote my way. I always tell you guys, you need to think your own way, you need to choose, do your own research. It's not just because somebody said something, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:46

Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

Um, I did vote for Zach Lane on Tuesday. I just thought it was very important overall um not to do a show vote for Adam Steen, but I needed to vote for Zach Lane in order to keep Feenstra out of the governor's race. So please forgive me if I did any wrong there, but um, that's what my thought process was, and that's how I voted this past Tuesday. So, like I said, we'll go into probably more number details when Fred gets back. So sorry that was a lot for you just to sit there.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

That was fighting.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

Um this week we had election talk right there. Well, we're gonna do more election talk for the main topic. I thought, why not pick your brain a little bit? We don't have females on the show. So pick your brain a little bit. You're probably gonna give us I'm not gonna say the typical female because we're in a Christian home. We're married almost a decade, you have children. So I'm not gonna say you are the typical female. I I probably would say that you're not.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

Well thanks.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

Well, you're definitely not, you're my wife, okay? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

You're one of the cover.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

But um, pick your brain, maybe see what we can do when it comes to elections, alright?

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

So this is all gonna be kind of serious, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

So, and you can ask me back if you'd like, alright?

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 21:25

So, how do you feel about politics and getting involved? Even if it's just the basic step of just going out and voting.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

Well, and see, I wrote myself notes down because I forget I feel like I'd forget what I just what I would say. But I wish that I was more involved. Sadly, that's not the case. I and and it's not like my parents' fault, okay. That's not what I'm trying to say here. But like growing up, you know, we'd it was never a problem. It was never a priority. It was n you know, we never we didn't even speak about it. Um, so then when we got married, I felt like you were always into like maybe politics or you would you know bring it up here and there in conversation. And I'm like, yeah, I don't I don't know, you know, that kind of thing. Um, but yes, I would love to be more involved in making it a priority, but also with voting, like yes, I do vote. Um, and I'll do a little bit of research or try to before I do it, just kind of look at some numbers and all that, and pros and cons, just being honest. Um, but I also try to do it because kind of like what you've always said, like um, you know, my at least one vote can make a difference. Like, if I want to be a part of the change, I need to go out there and do it. Um, that's kind of where I stand with it.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

I don't, you know, I'm not really well educated in the whole politics and getting involved and all try to be, but so then if you talk about getting involved, how deep would you want to get involved? Would you like to just dabble your toe, get your thigh in there, jump all the way in? Like, are we talking about just learning enough just to be able to vote? Are you thinking about getting involved where maybe you do some activism here and there? I've that would or would you run for something?

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Oh, no, I wouldn't run for anything. And I feel like an like an activism for something. I feel like that would be a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

So not just not just knowing people and who to vote for, but actually starting to do something around things. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

Okay, then I feel like okay, then I'd be a part of that change, or kind of like, what am I doing, right? Instead of just voting and then just kind of putting it off to the side or whatever. Um, but like I said, it's not sadly, it's not a priority for me. Um, though it should be, but that would be something interesting for me to do.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Um so then I'm not I'm not here to pressure you or make you feel better.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Oh no, no.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

So then um would it be wise maybe to take your toe and dip it in a little bit more before you get Yeah, no, baby steps is definitely probably what I need to start doing. So then Speaking of dabbling, right? What what would you do to dabble? Like where would you do your research? Where would you where would you think you'd need to find information at? What would you do?

SPEAKER_02 24:47

Uh I'm I mean I do not know. I guess I don't really know. I think I have more of an idea. I do like to listen to the Ali Bestecki girl on her podcast. I came across another one. Is it Lila Rose or Lily Rose?

SPEAKER_00 25:07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

Anyway, she's a conservative also, and she talks about like politics and um just like your everyday life kind of thing. So I think more podcasts would be kind of my thing to go to. Um I don't know if that's the right way or not, but no.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

I mean, I don't think there's a right or I mean, I don't think there's a wrong way. Um okay, yes, there is a wrong way. I'll take that back. But listen to podcasts, yeah. Um that's where I get a lot of my stuff. I listen to Steve Dace, Glenn Beck, who does stuff nationally. Steve Dace is a little more local, still does some stuff nationally. Um Steven Crowder, I listen to stuff from him. He's more, I feel like, analytical. Um I also like if something is going on, uh X.com, what used to be known as Twitter, is very informative when it comes to news and it's quick. Um finding out stuff, you just find out stuff quick. Um, but then also it's everybody's opinion of what happened quick. So then you need to know the places you can trust or the different people you know that's not gonna lie to you or give you a bent angle on the story. Um, so following people, you know, I could do Glenn Beck, um Steven Crowder, Steve Dace. I mean, there's other names out there. TP USA, Erica Kirk, um stay away from Candace Owen, stay away from Tucker Carlson, stay away from uh Nick Fuentes, Andrew Tate, stay away from those people. Um you just I guess kind of like the politics you gotta dabble in and make sure you're uh listening to these people, and you can look and see just based off what they say whether you can really trust them or follow them or not.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

So you're saying more like that than watching, for example, CNN or whatever, like that's probably not.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

I would I wouldn't advise listening to CNN. CNN usually has a bent, just like Fox News has a bent to it. They don't just lay it out for you, let you look at it. Um but if you are steady in your ways and you know what you believe in, um, you could then transition to maybe dabbling over at CNN or something like that, and bec every once in a while.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

Because then it's also helpful to see what they're saying on the other side instead of just listening to yourself in your own, they call it an echo chamber. It's just you guys just talk about the same thing, you guys believe the same thing over and over and over.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

It is healthy to learn what the other side's thinking too. Um okay. So friend groups or maybe ladies that you know, what do they say about voting or getting involved?

SPEAKER_02 28:14

Sadly, I don't really feel like it comes up in conversation. Like, and I excuse me, like, I feel like here and there, like there'll be some things that we hear or whatever, and we'll chat about it, or for example, like when the election happened, like, oh, who did who won, or why are you voting for this person, that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

Um was that probably the national election?

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Yeah, yeah. Um, but it's not something that really comes up in conversation. So and you know, I I I'm sure there's other women that are very well educated in this kind of area, but uh sadly for me it's not not something that I really chat about with them. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

Alright, so and I'm not here to get you on anything. No, no, Republican, Democrat Party, you know, the two differences. Okay. So then why do you think ladies tend to vote more for the Democratic Party than they do the Republican Party?

SPEAKER_02 29:25

So, um, then I'm just gonna read what I wrote. Um, issues like I would say reproductive rights and the whole gender equality thing would be what I'm thinking.

unknown 29:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

As of why they do that. So pro-choice, pro this, pro that, and you know, they um yeah, just gender equality, like they want to be equally paid as everybody else, and um is it more like feminism? Is that the word I want to use? Like just leaning more towards that group. So that's that was my thought on it.

SPEAKER_00 30:14

Gotcha. Okay. So that's kind of going exactly where I'm going to go. Okay. Because Ali Bestucky, like you said, you've listened to her before. Yeah. I enjoy her, she's a very smart gal. Yes. Very smart. Um, in her book, Toxic Empathy, she argues that empathy has become a tool of manipulation by left-wing activists who bully people into believing that they must adopt progressive positions to be loving. So she explores um the five most heated issues through which toxic empathy is so abortion, like you said, or pro-choice, you know.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Or they'll say reproductive rights, which is the word you use, but it's abortion. Uh, murder of your child. So the next one, gender. So um there's 56 different genders or six I don't know now. But yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Um, and to hate on them is just not to be loving, right? We're supposed to be nicer than what God was.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:20

Um, sexuality. So loving who you want, be who you want to be, love what you want to love, be transgender if you'd love to. Um, I don't know. Screw your dog. Just right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

Love is love. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Immigration, you know, it's it's so mean, so terrible. It's unloving to throw these people out. They need a place to stay.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

Um, and social justice. Um. Yes. So then what she was saying was that they would use toxic empathy, so like a fake empathy to make ladies believe that, oh, abortion. Like that um YouTuber that just came out that him and his wife uh killed their child that was gonna be born soon because they had Down syndrome. Yeah. So, um, yeah. So toxic empathy, like, oh, I'm killing my child so that way they wouldn't have to live through all that stuff, right? Right. Um, even though I've heard that they went to great lengths to save their dog beforehand.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Oh, I didn't hear about that, but I did hear about that.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

I heard about that on a sh on a podcast today. Um which also infuriates me. The um the love that people put towards pets compared to actual human beings. Right. Um, it infuriates me. Because people will be moved by the stupid little dog commercials with the terrible singing. But yet when somebody brings up abortion or anything like that, well, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 33:05

Right.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Um literally murdering a child.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

Yeah, and kind of like what I was talking um, I was gonna say is, you know, the the woman that gets raped, for example. She talks about in a podcast. Woman gets raped, and oh my goodness, her life, what's gonna be her life of this, you know? And if that child is born, he's gonna have all this trauma or stuff like that. Um, or you're gonna look, you're gonna see that face of the child and think about the man or whoever did this to you, right? But then again, we're not thinking about the child's life. Like we're just kinda, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

They're the ones that always have to pay for our stupid choices. Right. Um we have a one-night stand, and oh yeah, we should just kill this child because we had a one-night stand and we don't want this child, or um because we let the doctors do the genetic testing, and this is what they told us, even though um, I mean, they've been wrong before. Who's to say that child really did Down syndrome or not?

unknown 34:11

Right.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

Um, yeah, it's um very infuriating to me.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

Yes, but that is uh that is a really good topic that she talks about in toxic empathy, and you know, just the way that she explains it, you know, it makes perfect sense, and it's like wow, we don't really sit and think about it that way. Like people are so manipulative, um, with certain like certain kind of topics, like they'll just flip stuff around and you know, not really looking at the facts and what's true.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Um well and you ladies have been fed this and been spoon-fed this for decades now. Um so that way whenever somebody talks to you about abortion, well, it's not abortion, it's reproductive. It's all about wording. Uh calling it a fetus, not calling it a baby, so that way there's no um feeling that comes through. Right. Um no thought that comes through. It's just spitting out the words, you know. I think something that would I think one thing that we need to do um is get away maybe from numbers. I feel like numbers we always throw on numbers and people just get bored with it. It's just a number. I think that what the left does is what the right needs to pick up now and do is um also telling their story. The left, if I try to tell them facts or something like that and they don't agree with it, well then obviously right off the bat they call me a bigot, a hater, um, a Nazi, maybe I'm uh racist or something like that, and then they will try to influence emotions. Right, yeah. They'll do a personal story or a story of some sort to influence your emotions. Um, and we might have the facts and um the numbers, but I think we need to also talk to people one-on-one. Um, and the reason why I said that is when it comes to like abortion, a lot of people are just okay with it, but if they had to actually see the videos of the baby being ripped apart limb by limb inside their mother and then being sucked out in a vacuum. Um the salt brine that literally burns the skin off the baby until it suffocates and dies. Um, there is a very good website called Choice42.com, I believe. But it's Choice42, so it looks like Choice42. And they do cartoon videos of abortion. I think you did show me one of those.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Um, even for um vaccines. And um they just they do a very good job. If I remember, I'll try to post it up on our socials that way you guys can look at them.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

But yeah, very sad thing.

SPEAKER_00 37:08

So if I could ask you this, what do you think we as a movement are doing wrong? How do you think we could get more people involved?

SPEAKER_02 37:18

I would say probably going to um doing more research for sure. And I feel like also going to, you know, rallies or whatever get-togethers they have.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

I feel like we went to one um for Ted Cruz when he was running.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

I think so, yep. And like I said, that was my first time ever going to anything like that. And I was just in awe of like the amount of people that showed up, sure. And how everybody just kind of voiced their opinions. I thought that was very interesting. Um, but I f you know, baby stop, stuff like that might just be how we can get back into track and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 38:04

How do you think how do you think somebody like me could maybe get a leftist to think my way, or maybe if I could just get the normal lady on the street, how do you think I could get her to want to be more involved or get her attention?

SPEAKER_02 38:22

Get her attention. Um, I don't just maybe inviting her with you, kind of stuff like that. Um, I don't think people really, you know, read like flyers or anything like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

Or the conservative movement, what I'm a part of. How could we get more people to actually want to do the small things, to get involved, to want to learn about politics, you know, their civic duty, just doing the bare basic stuff.

SPEAKER_03 38:57

Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:58

What can we do to get them involved? Is I guess is what I'm trying to do.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

Yeah, no, um flyers do more rallies, more stuff like that. Um, I don't I don't I feel like social media has a big take on things nowadays.

SPEAKER_01 39:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

That might be um a good way to go. Um, I just feel like nowadays everything is on there. Like people don't really door knock and put out stuff and flyers out there. That kind of answers your question.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Do you think uh do you think a lot of the nation has just lost the love for the United States? Like they're not even happy, or maybe they just think it's owed to them that they're here, they're not thankful for it.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

I would say so. Um, I feel like very m much of us, and like including myself, like we just take it for granted. Um kind of like I said, you know, I was an Inca baby, so I have, you know, I just came here, that's all I know. You know, like my parents, you know, they're from Mexico, so they didn't, you know, show us patriotism or nothing like that. Um but I do feel like it's something taken for granted, and I feel like we've lost um like our our roots. Is that what I'm gonna say? Like, you know, we don't stand up for the flag anymore, we don't Pledge of Allegiance, we don't celebrate like the actual meaning of Memorial Day, you know, stuff like that. You know, people are just oh it's a weekend, that kind of thing, kind of like you were saying in that episode. Um, and kind of doing research, like, okay, what does this holiday actually really mean? Or educating yourself in you know your nation's history, stuff like that. Um, so I just I feel like people kind of have lost a love for it.

SPEAKER_00 41:01

Um could I I guess tell me to move on if you want me to? It's kind of a pointed question.

SPEAKER_02 41:10

Um move on, please. I'm joking.

SPEAKER_00 41:13

Go ahead. With um supposedly there being possibly 20 million illegals imported under the Biden regime. Um and I'm not just saying from Mexico.

SPEAKER_03 41:26

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

Maybe from Iran where we're fighting. There's a lot of people that came from over there, or um the Chinese who they are our enemy. They're they're the ones that's always competing against us for everything, even the AI race. Um so we're importing 20 million people into this nation.

SPEAKER_01 41:46

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 41:47

And we're letting them stay here, and they weren't vetted. Do you think that has a role that plays in all of this as well?

SPEAKER_02 41:58

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

Um, we don't um and when you say embedded, like we let them live here and we have a court date for them five years from now and never check on them.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

Yes. Yeah. Um I feel like we take care of them. We take more care of I'm gonna say those people like illegals. Um, we take care we take more care of them than we do our own people, I feel like. Or veterans. Like I always see stuff out like, you know, veterans are needing this, and like, okay, what about those guys? Like, why are they homeless? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Like that's not do they have a care in the world, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:41

Right, like that's not, you know, it's not fair to them. Um, and so I I feel like a lot of this is because, like I've said, we just lost love for it and we're just we're ungrateful. And I mean we're here, right? And we know that we're number one, that kind of thing. Um, so I just yeah, I feel like we just don't really care anymore.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

And then my last question I got is getting back to faith the only way to get our country and our patriotism back on track?

SPEAKER_02 43:16

Um, I feel one of the ways, yes. I I feel like we need to be reminded that we're a nation like founded on um, like we're a Christian nation, right? And I feel like we need to be reminded of that. Putting God first, absolutely. Um and like I said, also just educating ourselves in our history and like you said before, participating in our civic duties.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

Um assimilating, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Yes. And just, you know, um yeah, like if you're here, then you're American. Like if you came here the right way, kind of thing. Um that's what you mean by assimilating, right?

SPEAKER_00 44:03

Assimilating, that means um well yeah. I if somebody comes here that's not from America and they wanted to live here, they need to come here through the proper channels the right way.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:14

Um, not illegally. But to assimilate would be them coming here and then they become an American. Right. They don't bring Iran here and be an Iranian here in American soil.

SPEAKER_03 44:27

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

They don't bring Kenya here and be a Kenyan on American soil. You came here and you wanted to live here because it's the best place ever, but yet you choose to bring your crap hole over here and all the crap hole ideas over here, right? And want to act like that place is so much better than here, but yet you're living here, not there. Right.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

And the first place and the first reason why you even came here was because you knew this was a better place, because we have so much more to offer, like, and I'm talking about you know, people that I know, right, that have come here illegally many times, and um and I can kind of say it from this side because again, like I'm Hispanic, so I grew up in that obviously I grew up in that culture. Um I can see why people want to bring that here. I I can see it from both sides. Um but I also feel like yes, like once you are here, it makes sense for you to learn the language, do all that, and properly like just follow the rules. Like you've said before, like we have these rules in place for a reason. Um and yeah, just becoming an American because that's why you wanted to come here in the first place, was to be an American.

SPEAKER_00 45:53

And I'm not saying to wipe out your history or your heritage, I'm I'm part German. It's not a huge deal to me that I'm part German. I I could really care less. We've been here for a couple of generations now. Right. Um so like if you choose to be in your household to talk to your family and Spanish or whatever, I or Kenyan or whatever you want to speak, whatever dialect or whatever customs you want to have inside your house, I get that. Be ha be be proud of where you came from. Don't don't lose your heritage because um just keeping that language that's gonna help you out in the future for jobs, um, just different opportunities. Like there's just different things, like don't forget who you were, but also on the other hand, like show some gratitude. Like I my dad was in the military, and you know, he served along with many other people in my family, and it just always comes back to like people that come here illegally, it just frustrates me so much because it almost shows you like they're they feel entitled, like they need to be here, and I deserve to be here. But yet, my dad served and fought for this country. My dad could have died. I might have not even been here if my dad died. Right. Like that's the main thought that I have. Like, he could have given up everything. And just so you can come over here and wave your Mexican flag or your Kenyan flag or your Iranian flag um in your car and not even have a US flag up.

SPEAKER_03 47:29

Right.

SPEAKER_00 47:29

Not being proud whatsoever of this nation.

SPEAKER_03 47:33

Right.

SPEAKER_00 47:34

Um one thing, and it may not be popular, I think would be great to get patriotism back on track. I believe that, yes, we need to get back to our roots, um, get back to our faith in God. Um but you know, this isn't um Islam, so I'm not gonna force you or cut your head off because you're not gonna receive Allah. Right. Um that's not that's not how we do things. That's how they do things, that's not how we do things. Um we need to get a love for Christ back and it needs to be shown. Um but also to get our patriotism back, I feel like there needs to be um people right out of high school needs to serve for about a year in the military. That's one of my biggest regrets. But if you're invested and you're fighting for the country, maybe you'll show a little more respect and a little more love for the place that you live in. You're actually and maybe you wouldn't take it for granted as much as I mean, because if I'm not mistaken, they do that in Israel. Um I believe they have to serve two years.

SPEAKER_02 48:42

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 48:43

Yeah, every one of their citizens. So that's all I had when it came to politics and elections and all that fun stuff.

SPEAKER_02 48:52

So interesting.

SPEAKER_00 48:54

Thank you for answering.

SPEAKER_02 48:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:56

Um let's jump in the wild card, shall we? Let's be more serious, right?

SPEAKER_02 49:02

Let's be wild. Yeah. And welcome to Please Rap the Wildcard. RJ Cole, do you believe in second chances? And then you cue in the music.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

No, because how it goes, I go with, oh, let's look at this wild card. And you're like, oh yeah, let's do the wild card. And then I have to have like a split second in there, and then it sh does all the stuff, and then it jumps back through, and then I edit in the part where we start asking the question.

SPEAKER_02 49:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

Yeah, so you know you're good. I got it. I got all the bag of tricks back there.

SPEAKER_02 49:41

Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_00 49:42

Yeah. So, did you already ask the question?

SPEAKER_02 49:45

Yeah, I I asked you, do you believe in second chances?

SPEAKER_00 49:48

Yes, I do believe in second chances. Um, it depends on the situation though. Ah, you took my answer.

SPEAKER_02 49:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:57

Um, if somebody lies to you, yeah, I believe you can earn my trust back, get your second chance back. Um, if you murdered my family, um, I will do my best in my power, with God's help to try to forgive you, but I don't necessarily think you deserve a second chance. And my my world view, you kill my family, you should be executed. If you rape my family, you should be executed. If you rape any child, you should be executed.

SPEAKER_01 50:25

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 50:26

So that's my view. Um, so when it comes to things like that, God will forgive you, and I will do my best to forgive you if you've done something to me, but I don't think you should deserve a second chance at life. Um, steal a car, kind of the same thing. Go through the whole thing. I'll probably end up forgiving you later.

SPEAKER_02 50:45

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 50:46

So if you steal my car, right?

SPEAKER_02 50:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

I'll be pretty mad at you. Um if you come back and really want forgiveness, that's the other part to this.

SPEAKER_03 50:54

Right.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

To get the second chance, you know, I have to forgive you. God tells me that I need to forgive you. It's gonna be better for me.

SPEAKER_01 51:00

Right.

SPEAKER_00 51:00

But the second part to that is to give you a second chance, you actually have to be repentant. You want to have a repentant spirit to me to actually get a second chance. If you don't care, then why would I give you a second chance? Right. That's what it all boils down to.

SPEAKER_02 51:17

Right.

SPEAKER_00 51:17

What about you?

SPEAKER_02 51:19

You take my answer, kinda. Um, yes and no, depending on the situation. Yes, if you hurt my babies, no, you don't deserve a second chance. I feel like, yes, if you lie to me, it might be hard, but I feel like you can earn my trust. Um, you know, and they say that it's hard, it's harding to do that when it's harder.

SPEAKER_00 51:42

It's getting harder to trust people when they do that the older you get.

SPEAKER_02 51:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 51:47

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

Because you just lie to me, and you know, I don't like lies, that kind of thing. But I did say that um they did say that second chances could lead up to personal growth. I don't know if that's true. And it does say that you could um it could help you improve your relationships, which I don't know. Because you'd be learning from your past kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 52:10

I don't know. Yeah, the saying also is forgive, but you don't have to forget.

SPEAKER_02 52:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:17

You don't have to if somebody does something to wrong you, it doesn't mean you have to throw it back up in their face every single time you see them or even mention it. But don't be dumb to it either. Um, know that that situation had happened. Obviously, if it was a nothing, right, then it's a nothing. But if it was something that's kind of major, like people have done stuff in my life that I will never trust again. So if you come back into my life, I have forgiven you, but I'm not gonna give you that trust.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

Yeah, it doesn't mean we have to be best friends. Correct. Right, right. So, yes and no. Um, good question. I don't feel like anybody's ever asked me that. That was a really good question.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

Who was? Thank you, listener. You know who you are.

SPEAKER_02 53:01

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

We always appreciate listener submissions. You can do that, like I said, via the text line. You can do that on X, you can do that on Facebook, or even our email. So sweetheart, thank you for filling in. Do you have anything else you want to add before you go?

SPEAKER_02 53:20

Um, no, just thank you for having me. I've enjoyed it. I hope y'all have enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_00 53:26

It's been a good discussion.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

Yes, yes. And I think I am going to um what's our word called?

SPEAKER_00 53:37

Um dabble?

SPEAKER_02 53:40

No. Um fart? No. Challenge myself to educate myself a little bit better.

SPEAKER_00 53:52

And with our goals and like New Year's resolutions, right? Don't make it something you can't do. Make it something very realistic, and guess what? Even if you don't do it tomorrow, there's always another day to do it.

SPEAKER_02 54:06

That's right. And no, I was just gonna do something super simple, which I was probably gonna listen to some of your podcast people, but um, I thought that would be a good good step, baby step. Yeah, you know, because then I could just listen to it in the car or while I'm doing chores or whatever, I can just listen to that. So that'd be nice.

SPEAKER_00 54:30

It would be so and guess what? Good ideas, have it on the speakers. Our kids will listen to it and they'll learn too.

SPEAKER_02 54:36

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 54:37

And probably I grew up as a rush baby. So Rush Limbaugh, the big picture that I have.

SPEAKER_02 54:42

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:43

I grew up listening to him. Oh, and there's a whole generation or two that grew up listening to Rush. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 54:52

Yeah. Because you came home with or this giant picture got delivered, and I'm like, who is that?

SPEAKER_00 54:59

I bought a picture and it was way bigger than I thought.

SPEAKER_02 55:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

It's a beautiful picture. It is really did not cost a lot, but then my issue became it's way too big, so what do I do with it now? And luckily, I believe my dad had an extra frame, so then I just had to take it to Michael's, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:19

And get it um fix up on there. Yeah, there's a better word.

SPEAKER_02 55:24

Yeah, I don't I don't know what the word is.

SPEAKER_00 55:26

I had to get it um all pretty and dazzled up to put it inside the frame so that way the picture would fit and look nice with the Right, right. So that reminds me we need to get that hung back up somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 55:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:39

I'd put it right here.

SPEAKER_02 55:41

You could.

SPEAKER_00 55:42

I could, but you could do it. It's the kids' playroom.

SPEAKER_02 55:46

Who cares? Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

You ready to go?

SPEAKER_02 55:50

I am ready.

SPEAKER_00 55:51

Alright. You want to try to take us out? Do your last show? Uh, I don't know what you thank you for listening to This Is Today's show and don't forget to stand.

SPEAKER_02 56:03

Thank you.