Episode 33: The Beast of Ukraine

In this episode we talk about a serial killer from Ukraine 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

How many people, like if you were a serial killer, how many people do you think you would kill?

SPEAKER_00 0:12

A lot. I mean I feel like I could I could do it with precision. Like I I would find a strategy to like maximize my numbers.

SPEAKER_02 0:24

What would be your um mode of murder?

SPEAKER_00 0:29

I don't see I would I would have to like do a whole bunch of different ones to find like find my art.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Right.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

You know, because y you don't want to just copy people or just even use a gun. That's boring.

SPEAKER_02 0:45

Yeah, I feel like you would need to make it unique.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Yeah. Like the sticky bandits. What was that? Home alone two? Where he put duct tape around his hand and he'd do it in the the coin thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

But like what would be your signature? You know, they have they've had like the happy face killer or the right, like the what was the guy? Uh who's the guy that had like the weird symbol?

SPEAKER_00 1:18

The zodiac?

SPEAKER_02 1:19

There we go. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

I would has anyone peed on the dead bodies before?

SPEAKER_02 1:25

Probably.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

Oh, yeah. I'd be the the piss bandit. That'd be funny just peeing on the dead bodies. There's like there's a lot of piss everywhere. Most of it's not theirs.

SPEAKER_02 1:40

You'd be called the territory marker.

unknown 1:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Like raise your raise your leg, right? Like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I've never really. I mean, I will say this story got me thinking about how many people I would actually murder if I was a serial killer. Which is probably not a good thing. All right.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

And this podcast is where we mix spooky and stupid, and we have no idea what we're doing.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

That is true. Some days we do. Most days we don't.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Yeah, it's it's really hit or miss.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

I mean, right. Keeping it in the family.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

And this episode, we're talking about the beast of Ukraine.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

This was kind of like, I just literally Googled like like serial killers that nobody really talks about.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

And this one came up. I'm like, all right, let's just do an episode on him.

SPEAKER_02 3:12

All right. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Okay. So to get into it, Anatoly Onoprienko. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Yeah, Onoprienko.

SPEAKER_00 3:23

I don't know how to pronounce his name.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

It's very Ukrainian. There we go. I was going to say Slovakian.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

Okay. But he was born in 1959 in what is now Ukraine. Back then it was Soviet Union.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

Soviet Union.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

He had a much older brother, but his mother died when Anatoli was only four years old. And his father didn't believe that he could take care of a young boy. So he just dropped him off at an orphanage. And this started his hatred for parents having been abandoned by his father when his older brother got to stay.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

I feel that. I mean, let's talk about our abandonment issues. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

I'm an orphan now, but I need it, I will cut that out. You cut that out.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

But you know, I was thinking about this the other day.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

But like at four years old.

SPEAKER_02 4:25

I know. Let me, I don't know if you know this, but when mom was like in between her job back in Rochester and then coming to Nebraska, like whatever. She was like back and forth. It was really weird. What so she had like two jobs at the same time, or well, you know, because they asked her to come and do research for Nebraska medicine or something like that, way back, way back when. And for whatever reason, I didn't get to go with my older brother and sister to go stay with grandma, where they would get spoiled and like cakes and you know, mom would get pies? Yeah. Like they I mean, mom would get mad because when they would come back, you know, from staying with grandma for however long, like none, like neither one of them could fit in their clothes. But here's this girl who ends up staying with this elderly couple that who Mimi and Papa. I always thought, like, for whatever reason when I was little that like they were my grandparents. Like I was like related. No, not at all. She found this amazing couple. I don't know how or why. I don't know if she knew like one of their kids, adult children. And that's who I stayed with.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

What?

SPEAKER_02 5:47

Yeah. So I was like separated.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

That's strange.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

I know. So I've been an orphan even before I was supposed to be an orphan, apparently.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Jeez. Isn't that weird? And you only killed like 35 people.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

I mean, seriously.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Just kidding, that never happened.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

But I'm like, wow. I mean, no wonder why. I don't know. I I think that's also why I'm such an independent person.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

Because I was never like that connected until later on in life. And I think it was maybe when I was five-ish. So it was like multiple years that they would take care of me. Like in the summer, that's where I would go.

SPEAKER_00 6:33

And then it's so weird nowadays where like back then it was fine to just abandon children and apparently. Or but like kids never went anywhere. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Like well, they would go to camp. You go to camp.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

No, I'm saying, like uh to like fun activities or you know, like adult stuff. Now, parents bring their fucking kids everywhere. If they want to go get drunk at a bar, they've bring their fucking kids.

SPEAKER_02 7:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:02

Like what the hell?

SPEAKER_02 7:04

Right?

SPEAKER_00 7:05

It's like, I don't know. I I feel like nowadays it's like a I I don't I don't want to say like a bad thing, but it's like if you don't have your kids with you all the time, then people think that you're a bad parent. Whereas like back in the day, no parents had their kids with them.

SPEAKER_02 7:23

Well, I will also say I went to a big outdoor event yesterday. The number of children on leashes, along with They need to be on leashes. Okay. But like this lady was yelling at her kin because it was getting tangled up in the leash. I'm like, I do that with my dogs.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

But also the amount of people that had dogs there and their dogs were out of control. That would literally be like me bringing two potatoes that were just like nuts. I mean, they would knock everything over, but they're like growling and barking. I almost saw like two dog fights. Like, this is wild.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

I know it's like people think that they have to like, why doesn't everybody just live in a fucking camper and like take all of your shit with you everywhere? Because people are basically they're taking their whole fucking families, they'll have like fucking giant wagons and yes, the wagons.

SPEAKER_02 8:18

I'm like, yeah, what is happening here? And then I'm like, how much stuff is stashed in said wagon? Which I know this because when I had to use the outhouse with negative one ply toilet paper.

unknown 8:31

Negative one ply.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

Like seriously, it was like a surprise every time I wiped, you know, but it was my whole freaking finger.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Please hold up just enough so that my finger don't.

SPEAKER_02 8:41

I'm like taking the whole roll and wrapping it around my hand. I'm like, this is aggressive. Um, the number of shooter bottles that were in the toilet.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

I'm like everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Oh my god. I'm sure in the parking lot, there's fucking everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

Which I understand because their cocktails were quite pricey. Like one seltzer can was like 12 bucks.

SPEAKER_00 9:05

Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

Isn't that stupid?

unknown 9:07

God.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

I know.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

Even even buying like seltzers at like the liquor store, grocery store, whatever, is insanely expensive.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Well, I feel like they're the skinny cans, so it's way less alcohol than what they're putting on there for ounces.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

I think it's it's 12 ounces. The same amount. It's just taller and not as stubby.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

Lies.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

But anyways, back to my orphanage. I mean, uh back to so yeah, I mean, this is where his anger began. I get it, buddy. I get it. So also, so June 14th, 1989, Anatoly pulled over a couple with a hunting rifle. He shot the man dead and forced the woman out of the car and led her into the nearby forest. The woman screamed for help, which she should have yelled fire.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

Yeah, we learned that.

SPEAKER_02 10:03

And Anatoly immediately shot and killed her. The bodies were buried, their valuables stolen, and then he set the car on fire.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

Like, don't hurt the car. The car didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_02 10:15

He already buried him. Why are you burning the car?

SPEAKER_00 10:17

I know. Well, I isn't that like hide the evidence, but like you you already hid the evidence, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:23

Like drive the car somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

I mean, right?

SPEAKER_00 10:26

Mm-hmm. Steal the car.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

Yeah. Then you can get to your next victim faster.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Exactly. See, we're good at this. We should I mean we should be serial killers.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

It's a brother-sister duo.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Yeah. That's never been done before.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Uh so a month later, in July, he shot and killed a Polish couple. He stole their valuables, set the car on fire. Another month after that, in August, Anatoly shot a man and his son and the man's sister-in-law. Which was he like fucking his wife's sister? We don't know. Anatoly allegedly sat in the car with the dead bodies for hours contemplating suicide. Until the stench was so unbearable. He dragged the bodies over to the ditch, and seeing a woman, seeing the woman's body twitch, he pulled out a knife and stabbed her in the back. And then the car was set on fire.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Again, with the car. Yeah. Constantly setting it on fire. But the bodies were already in a ditch. Again. Why? Does he have like a hatred towards like a specific maybe that does anybody know what kind of car it was? Maybe these are all it's not the people that he's killing. I think in the certain type of vehicle.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

Yeah, in the beginning it was like he was like he really doesn't like a Toyota, you know? Like, these fucking Hondas, they need to get out of here. Well, but it was it was in the Ukraine.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

So I wonder what there's gotta be a like a Dotson. Right. Or a scout.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

Those are so cute. I saw one of those the other day. Those little scout jeep things.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

They're adorable.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

They're they're worth a boatload of money if they're all like restored.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

Yeah, it was totally restored. It was cute. Okay, so after he took a long break of killing, it wasn't until Christmas Eve of 1995. Man, what a day to just kill somebody. When Anatoly broke into a home and killed a teacher, his wife, and two children. He stole jewelry and clothes before he set guess what? The house on fire.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

What a terrible fucking Christmas. Like, could you imagine like that?

SPEAKER_02 12:54

Were the clothes in present? Like, did he steal the clothes that were already gift wrapped? You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

Christmas. Was it the Christmas presents that he stole? Or but like the the kids? Oh they're they're probably like it's Santa. Breaking into the house, and then they get fucking murdered.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

That's terrible.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

I wonder if he dressed up like Santa too. That would be even worse.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

Do we know how he killed the this? Did you stab him? Did he shoot him? Did he?

SPEAKER_00 13:25

I think at this point in the in the 90s was where he was using mostly a shotgun, like a sawed-off shotgun.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

Oh, got it.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

What a terrible Christmas. God. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Well, and like if if the two kids had lived through that, like fuck. There's no way that they would ever celebrate Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

No, they're definitely just they're celebrating Hanukkah at that point.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Yeah, exactly. They just turned Jewish.

SPEAKER_02 13:53

But I don't know, because they lit the house he lit the house on fire, so there's candles. You gotta light the menorah. Unless you get a battery-powered LED one.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

Is that a thing?

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Lighting the menorah?

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Well, no, like a battery-powered menorah.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00 14:07

Because I feel like that goes against because wasn't it that like the candles burned for like six days or whatever when they only had enough to burn for one? Isn't that the whole point of that story?

SPEAKER_02 14:21

I thought it was seven days of Hanukkah Fun.

unknown 14:26

Probably.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

I think you just get a gift every day.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

It's been a little traidle, traidle, trade, trade.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

No, because I I know they have to have battery-powered ones or like the I don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

For places that don't let you have a fucking candle.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

Like a facility.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

Yeah. Because the fire marshal come in and shut that down. Would it be cool if they had the old bubble lights and that's the menorah? That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

Those bubble lights are fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

Yeah, they are.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Uh so over a year later, things started to ramp up. In early January of 1996, Anatoly killed a family of four and also a witness to the crime. And then a few days later, he killed three more people in three separate incidents. Then a few days later, he killed a family. He set the house on fire. Shocker. And also killed two possible witnesses that were railroad workers.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

So I'm guessing that the house was near a railroad.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

Yeah, and just like two fucking people. I I wonder if it was like the old timey, like uh whatever that cart thing is that they the railroad. The mining, the mining carts. And he's just like, oh fuck, and just murders them.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Well, he really lights likes uh light and shit on fire.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Yeah, he he's definitely honing his his art of killing. Because it seems like it's a lot of the same thing now.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

Right. Because in the beginning Well, first it was a car. Now he's just losing on a house.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Now he's going out to houses.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

Yeah, okay. So his main MO, yeah, was it was an isolated house using a shotgun and killing the dad husband first, then the woman, and lastly killing the children because he didn't want the children to end up in an orphanage.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

He has a heart of gold.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

He's a really nice guy. Yeah. I mean, really putting them out of their misery before they have to go into foster the foster care system.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

He understands he understands their their pain that they would have.

SPEAKER_02 16:43

I mean, he he really does. And their abandonment issues. Um, he continued his killing rampage for three months. Some sources suggest that he may have killed over 50 people in a three-month period. That's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

That's like more it's whole families.

SPEAKER_02 17:03

Well, I guess, yeah, you're really increasing those numbers and then any witnesses.

unknown 17:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

I'm like, what time of day was this? Like who I mean, are you picking like just a random afternoon where there's people out like walking their dogs and yeah, sometimes he would like create a commotion for like uh a family to all of them come out and then he would just fucking murder them?

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Or like uh create like an instance for them to let him into the house. Yeah. And then just murder them.

unknown 17:34

God.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

So he also became known as the Terminator.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

I'll be back.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

Is that what he said at the end?

unknown 17:44

No.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

And then he lighted on fire. But also the beast of Ukraine.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Yeah, wow, what a yeah, he's like his nicknames are like after like movies.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

Right? Like The Beast. Is it the Beastmaster?

SPEAKER_00 17:58

Beauty and the Beast. But there is no beauty.

SPEAKER_02 18:01

Uh but like Maybe he found beauty in it. Is that just because I so they couldn't come up with something better?

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Yeah, like they they're just like, well, this Terminator movie like just came out and it's like really fucking good.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

And also it wasn't in 1996, was it?

SPEAKER_00 18:21

The first one came out in like 89.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

Oh, so maybe.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

And like by the time that they got it on fucking VHS or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Beta?

SPEAKER_00 18:31

Yeah, like it was probably like 96.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Yeah, you're probably right.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

Mm-hmm. Uh so then in April of 1996, the police surrounded Anatoly's building and knocked on the door. And Anatoly stupidly opened the door.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

What an idiot.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Thinking it was his girlfriend and her kids returning from church.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Okay, he had a girlfriend.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

That's yeah. That's something.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

Uh he was immediately arrested, and police searched the residence and found multiple weapons connected to murders and over 120 items stolen from victims. His girlfriend was reportedly wearing a ring from one of the victims.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

I hope she took it off and threw it at him and was like, You gave me a dead person's ring.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

I bet I bet she was way more mad. She's like, uh-uh, this ring was for another woman? Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

I ain't giving that back.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

I ain't win no other woman's ring.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Suddenly she's from the Bronx.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Well, yeah, she has to be to be like way more mad at that. Like, so you're telling me that he was killing families the whole time. This whole time. And he gave me another woman's ring.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

Oh my god. You do that really well.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

I have practice.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Yeah, I bet. That's your night gig.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Mm-hmm. Um being an Italian woman.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

Seriously. Like on what is it, like Housewives or something?

unknown 20:15

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Housewives of Italy, LA.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Yes, Sicily.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

New York.

SPEAKER_00 20:21

New York.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

Um, okay, so when interrogated, Anatoly confessed to all of the murders and robberies. When asked why, he claimed that the voices in his head had told him to do it. And another thing that I had watched or whatever, that he was claiming that there was a like a force within him, like another, almost like a demonic type.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Which a lot of serial killers try that like route. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

In November of 1998, the trial took place. He was brought into the courtroom in a metal cage. And because it w it could have been such a violent situation, right? People were spitting on him, spatting at him and shouting at him.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

I think a lot of it was to protect him from the people were very upset.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

Right. Because he killed 50 plus people.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

He was ultimately sentenced to death by shooting. However, soon after the Ukraine entered the Council of Europe that abolished capital punishment. So in August of 2013, he actually died of cardiac arrest of a heart attack.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

That guy. He was a bad guy.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

He was a bad guy. But he didn't want the kids to be orphans. So there was some kindness in the world.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

He was the serial killer with the heart of gold.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

But I just he why how come people don't really talk about him anymore? You know, like when you when you talk about serial killers, you're like, right? Gacy.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

Dumber.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

Well, and that's because we only talk about the American American ones, usually, you know? But it's when it's in another country, it's a whole different thing.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

But like I I I don't like that he blamed his dad for him being a fucking psychopath.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Well, yeah, like why would he just blame his dad?

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Yeah, because saying that that your dad abandoned you is the reason why I had to murder families. Like that doesn't matter. But he was he was like, I think he was schizophrenic.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

Okay, but I love how also like when when they were interviewing people like that worked with him or whatever, and they were like, he we're so shocked. He's such an upstanding man. Yeah. But then you actually see pictures of him. He looks like a fucking serious like he looks like he's like no, he looks like a regular fucking guy. Not his crazy eyes.

unknown 22:58

No.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

The crazy eyes came later. He got those implanted.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

I don't know. But then he uh I read too that he actually spent 17 years in solitary confinement.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

17 years. That's that's a long time to do that.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

That's a long time to think about everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

That is a very long time. No wonder why he died of a heart attack.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

He also he showed no remorse for any of it. But he he kept claiming too that like he knew like aliens and shit. Like he went like Yeah, it was nutso. And I wonder if that was a tactic.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

To try to get off.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Like because that that's then he confessed to everything, right? Like Yeah. Because like people always try to get like well, at least in America, the insanity pleat or whatever. But then they do like all these tests or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

I and then they're deemed competent to stand trial or something like that, which apparently he did.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Like Yeah. People are saying a lot of things that I'm in the the Epstein files. But I took a test once and I passed it with flying colors.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

Here we go. The colors. There you go. The Bronx.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Well, isn't isn't Trump from New York?

SPEAKER_02 24:22

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

You probably know more about him than I do.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

I know what his penis looks like.

SPEAKER_02 24:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Stormy Daniels told us. Stop it.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

So how do you feel about this? How do you feel um his MO was?

SPEAKER_00 24:44

See, well, after like reading a whole bunch of shit and like watching some stuff, it like made me sad. Just because he like he liked to murder families.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

You know, like that was like what he got off on.

SPEAKER_02 25:01

You know.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

And I think if it if it would have just been like random attacks, it would have been not so or like the monster lady.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

Who's that? Eileen Turner.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 25:16

The chick that she was a prostitute, and so she ended up murdering the men that because she would get like raped, like whatever.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

Like, I don't know. That's kind of like a vigilance.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Movie uh monster. Mm-hmm. Uh with Charlotte the Rhone.

SPEAKER_02 25:31

God, she like transformed her whole body for that. It's crazy. But yeah, I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

Like, if you're gonna do it, like have like a reason behind that's the whole thing, is like they don't have a reason.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

Oh, I thought it was because you he was an orphan.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Well, but I feel like too, you just had a really shitty like childhood.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

So did a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

And yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

That's the thing, is like put on your put on your big girl panties and pull it together.

SPEAKER_00 26:03

Mm-hmm. But it is funny that his dad is just like, oh, fucking kids. And then just like dumps them off.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

The good old days when you could just be like, I don't want this kid anymore.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

Right.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

Like now you would probably go to jail. Like giving like a four-year-old.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Right. I don't think there's places to just drop them off.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

Yeah, like I think the the baby thing is okay. And even then, like that makes the news where they're like trying to find out who left a baby in a channel. I know.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

I thought it was like a no don't ask, don't tell, or what what is it called? No questions asked. Here's a baby.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

Yeah, well.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

What's that called?

SPEAKER_00 26:44

Yeah, I think it's just a like a no, no questions asked sort of thing. But like it makes the news. Right. And like people that know that lady where they're like, oh, she doesn't have a baby anymore. Right. They have to know totally pregnant immediately that like, oh, that's her.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

Right. I mean, it's better than putting it in like a dumpster.

SPEAKER_01 27:09

Is it?

SPEAKER_00 27:12

There's a lot of food in dumpsters. Like, make sure you're like behind a restaurant. Like, don't just fucking take it to like a construction dumpster. Cause then they can't eat.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

Like that person that got in trouble for duct taping the dog's face and pot like paws and they found it in a dumpster. Did you hear about that?

SPEAKER_00 27:29

What here? Yeah, it was awful. I I didn't hear about that. Oh, yeah, they got like there is so much bad stuff happening.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

There is.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

Like, it's crazy because you know, like doing like serial killer stuff, like there's like active serial killers out there.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Oh, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

That doesn't really make the news because they don't like to release information on what they think is connected.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

So there's not copycats, there's not, yeah, like people coming forward like that's me until it's way after, and it's like, holy fuck, like I know.

SPEAKER_02 28:07

Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_00 28:08

Mm-hmm. Yeah. We could be serial killers and we wouldn't even know.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

We don't know. I'm just kidding, we're not.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:18

For sure. Wink. We ain't got time for that. That's like a lot of time and energy. Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

Like, so he had a girlfriend.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

Right. She was a churchgoer. She went to church. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

And he's like, I'm not going to church.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

I might light up in flames if I walk through that door.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

And but like, so these murders and robberies and all this had to have taken a long time because he was going like to isolated areas.

SPEAKER_02 28:48

Yeah. I mean, he's burying them. He's got to light the car on fire. He's got to drag him to a ditch. Then he's got to murder a witness.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

And then he's bringing stuff home.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Right. Like also, here, I'm going to propose to you with this ring, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Like, I almost blame her. Like, why why are you gone all fucking day? Every day.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Right.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

Because it was like for three months. Because I think he wanted to kill somebody like every day for a year. I think that was like his one of his plans.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Well, she put her real damper on that because he only got to 50.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

Maybe three. 53.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

But yeah, he's a bad dude.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

He is. Yeah. So don't kill people.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Yeah. I d the moral of the story is stop being an orphan.

unknown 29:40

What?

SPEAKER_02 29:41

I don't think you can help it.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Oh. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

But the moral is don't be a serial killer.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

Yeah. Don't be an orphaned serial killer.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

Correct.

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Yeah. Alright. That about does it for this week. We love you guys, and please pretend to be kind to each other.

SPEAKER_01 30:01

Peace out. Bye.