Gary Ridgway

This week, we're digging into the disturbing story of Gary Ridgway, a man who became infamous as the Green River Killer. For years, he left a trail of victims across Washington State. Mostly women who were vulnerable and overlooked. Despite his shocking crimes, Ridgway blended into his community, living a seemingly average life while hiding a dark, twisted secret. 

What kept Gary Ridgway in the shadows for so long? And what led him to finally admit to the horrific crimes, after all those years of denial?

Pour yourself a drink, get comfortable, and join us as we explore the chilling truth behind one of the most prolific serial killers in American history and how, in the end, justice caught up with him.

Because sometimes, the deadliest truths take years to surface.

Transcript

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Okay. Yeah. I've got my fucking XXL water already. Tea, barrel tea. A barrel of water. It's a fucking two pint cup. Oh, I was there when you got that. I've got one that lives next to my bed as well. A thirsty. Yeah. Literally. I'm such a pissy pants, just gets so pissy. I've got pee. Do you know every time I drink a pint and I'm just like every two seconds. Yeah, I gotta go. I gotta go. To be fair, that is something that I don't miss about drinking. No, although I do miss drinking. I the other day I was like,'cause it started Yeah, the other day. I was like, how much am I gonna do Christmas without alcohol? Surely not. Oh God. I don't think I've done Christmas without alcohol since I was like 10. Oh my God. Yeah. Do you have a Christmas film that you watch every Christmas nightmare before Christmas? Yeah. That's a banger, but we have. School of Rock. Of course you do. That feels like it tracks for you and your family to be honest. Yeah, it's just because like we were like, we are gonna watch School of Rock again this Christmas. And I was like, I think it's because nearing Christmas we watch dates of Christmasy things and then on Christmas Day I am like, it's Christmas E. Even if you don't do anything Christmasy on Christmas day. Yeah. And we. We were like, oh, what should we like, what should we watch? And I was like, I love nativity, but I just feel like it's just too much for me right now. Like it's too much. And we were like it gives off nativity vibes. And then we were like, without being naivity. Oh my god. School of gives the exact same film, but it's like better. And it's not Christmasy, but it gives off Christmas energy. And then, yeah, now it's like a little ritual thing, so That's so cute. Yeah. School of Rock as used to be on Christmas Eve, we used to watch Muppets Christmas Carol. Yeah, that's banger obviously we watch that. Lauren is obsessed and she knows every word. So Yeah. We watch The Muppets regardless. There's some things that we watch regardless. I've never watched Elf. Yeah. FII don't, I think that I think Georgia loves Elf. I think Elf is like some people love it and other people. Yeah. That's all right. But I, yeah, me personally being the spooky bitch that I am not met for Christmas also it is. My favorite film of all time. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's just, I just love it so much. And I did love Tim Burton until I found out he was a piece of shit Yeah. Lifestyle. But yeah, I do still have a fucking mad appreciation for Yeah. His films. Yeah. Honestly. Incredible. Yeah. Incredible. Should we get on with this? Yeah, let's do it. Welcome back. Welcome to Kill the Mood podcast. We are here to talk to you about everything. Spooky Doy. There will be lots of true crime, but also just general mysteries. Some will be solved, some we will leave you hanging. We are just two girls putting the worlds to writes, but not really. We just like yapping, putting the worlds to write, the worlds, to write all the worlds, to write all the worlds, every single one of them. All my world. Yeah, we mean no offense in anything we say, we like a huge percentage of the world, find all of this unfathomable, and this is just us in our own little way trying to make sense of the senseless. So can you do that without further do that? Yeah. Oh, I don't need to get the script. Jesus Christ. Yes. Without further ado, this week's case is Gary Ridgeway. Gary, yes. Ridge. Wait. AKA The Green River Killer. This is an American one again. It is an American one. Again, I do, they've got the Yeah I'm not gonna say the best serial killers, but they've got some of the bigger cases, haven't they? Yeah, we do definitely have some fucked ones like Dennis Nelson and stuff. Yeah. But I feel like I'm not ready to jump into the, yeah. I'm not really ready to dive into the world of two partners. Yeah. And I think like a lot of them require a lot of, more of, yeah. And to be honest, the only reason why we did that one last time was because I was writing it and I was like, I'm speeding up the end, and there's still so much to do. So but some of them we know off the bat that it's gonna be a two-parter and Yeah. Also, right now I'm in the midst of moving house. And there was just so much going on. So the, yeah. My ability to put information together is shit right now. Yeah. We are very scrambled. Sorry about that. We're very scrambled. Big timing. Yeah. We are very scrambled at the moment. Yeah. We're like trying to keep just about keyboard. Yeah. I haven't got anything going on. I'm just a mess. Yeah. Yeah. But it's all gonna be fine. I'm gonna try and edit. So sorry if this is the worst thing you've ever heard in your life. Yeah. And my, we've got a bit of an issue with the sound of my laptop'cause it's kicking off and we've got, we're worried that my laptop is about to die and she is the heart and soul of this podcast right now. Yeah. So we're setting up a GoFund Yeah. Literally buy us all of our new equipment that we need. Yeah. Like we, to make us rich. We currently share one mic because the two mics weren't working together and we just don't, we don't have the funds all the time to sort that out, so yeah. And now the sound of the fan is so intense in the background that I'm having to actually like equalize. Yeah, it's wild. The sound. So sometimes we sound like robots. Sorry. Yeah. And I'm just really hoping that I don't have to do that with this episode because we have a little funny thing about me being really terrible with technology. So like she touched laptops and they explode. Hence probably why Mine's now dying. Yeah. I just, I have used some laptops and literally just the screen goes black after I touch them and I always delete things I'm not supposed to and end up in weird places. And when I made the, tried to make the Facebook account for this podcast, oh my God. She got us suspended. Suspended. And you were like, how? She literally hadn't even made it and somehow got us suspended, but then the, you could see the page and like the icon was like misaligned. So the icon was like the just the top of the Yeah. Logo. It was so bad. It was so weird. Yeah. Had to sort that as well. So yeah, we'll see how this goes. Anyway. Yeah, that's us. Yep. And we should probably stop waffling now. Yeah. We should probably just get into it. Yes. So yeah, we're in the US it is summer 1982 and we are in King County, Washington. Cool. On the 15th of July, 1982. Oh, we're getting straight into it. Sorry guys. What done the nude body of Wendy Lee Cofield, 16 years old was found in the Green River. It's so wild of Wendy just being a young person. Did you know that the guy that wrote Peter Pan made that name up? Oh my gosh. Didn't exist before. Peter Pan. Only learned that a couple weeks ago, Wendy. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bit of rogue, it feels no offense.'cause I do know Wendy, and she's a little cutie, but it feels like when you just slam your hands on the keyboard, see what word comes out. That's actually so funny. I just took a little sip of my XXL water. It wasn't a good spa it out. It literally almost took out my laptop for sure. Yeah. Went, yeah. You know what I mean? You're not wrong. Yeah, fucking leave the girl alone. It's been five minutes and you're taking the piss out her name. I'm so sorry. Lovely. Yeah. I think I didn't put it in my notes, but I think it was like found by a bunch of kids fucking about in the river. Oh. Found the body. Honestly, my worst nightmare. That would probably stop them from fucking about so much. Do you think that's your worst nightmare?'cause sometimes like when I am like on the way to work and stuff, I just look out to like the woods as I'm driving past and I think, what if I saw a body right now? Would you be like hyped? No, I'd be fucking freaked I think. Yeah, I'd be freaked. I honestly sometimes if I'm walking the dog in a place that's like. I, I wonder if so, so for example, you know that it's been you and only you for a while if you walk through like a cobweb and say yeah. Something that brings you back to reality or it must have been long enough time for spiders to make webs across this path since the last person time someone walked across get you. So if I'm ever walking somewhere and there's like spiderwebs in my face, I'm like, oh my God, I've not been here. I'm the first person here in the morning. Yeah. Or no one's walked across this bit in ages. And I always literally will be like, what if I found a body right now? What would I do? And I literally think I'd lose my shit. Yeah. I'd be I just dunno what I'd do. No, I don't. Me either I dunno how I've obviously I had call the police and get away from it, but like I just have a panic attack. I'll probably call you. Yeah. Yeah. I just found somebody's body. Get the mic down here. There footage. We, you made a joke in the at work the other day. What was it? And it was like. You made a joke about murdering me and then you went, it'd be great for the pod. It'd be great for the pod. Yeah. And anytime anyone says to me like, oh my God, did you see that thing on Cornwall live? And I'll be like, what do I need to get the mic out? Is it for the pod? Is it good for the pod? And they'll be like, no, a car got swallowed by the concrete down the road. And I'll be like, oh, okay. Boring, but less Interesting. Yeah. I do think like just being on your casual morning stroll and then, or like just fucking about in the river and being Yeah, just your mates and like finding a body. Oh no. That was literally the first line of my notes. Anyway, so I'm just gonna tell you a little bit about Wendy. So she was she was born April 17th, 1966. She grew up in quite a difficult environment and began to act out at a young age. I put this in because I cannot fucking fathom this. At 15, she began to date a 21-year-old who then also began to date her mom. It's already 15 dating, 21. Bad vibes. Yeah. 15 dating 21, and then starts dating your mom. Yeah. I feel like this man does not have a tiny No what? Yeah. Or maybe he does. Yeah. Maybe does like mother and daughter. Yeah. How much close does it get? Yeah, that's so true. But also the age gap is yeah. Okay. So it has this very specific type. Yeah. But doesn't mind the age. Yeah. Yeah. Age. That's suggestive but type and weird. Just so weird. Yeah. That's really weird. And like the dynamic of that. Do you think he just really liked coming round to the house. So when they didn't work out between two of them, he was like, what if I date your mom? Why if I just date your mom instead? I'm not gonna lie by the sounds of what I was reading. And it was one of those like wiki, those it was, it's actually gross, but it was like one of those fan wiki pages. Yeah. And yeah, by the sounds of it, he was dating them at the same time, so Oh, it's not like one after the other. Oh. It's like that he was dating them at the same time and it caused like quite a lot of arguments between them. Oh my God. Yeah. Can you seriously, like I've had funny arguments with my mom in my time where I've been like, this is so petty of us, but like arguing over the same man, I cannot comprehend. I cannot fathom. Yeah. Like why would you not just both be like, this is fucked. This man needs to get in the bin. Yeah, he needs to go. Yeah. The fact that both of them are interested in him enough to entertain the fact and arguing, playing the with each other about him, the fact that he is somehow letting them get at each other's throats over that fucking madness. Also. This is really sad. Just before her disappearance, her mom actually put her in foster care.'cause she said she couldn't handle her anymore. Oh my gosh. That's, I hope that was nothing to do with that man. But my guess is it was yeah. So unfortunately, yeah. That is not nice. She, yeah. She goes into foster care and I read something that said, not only does she go into foster care, but the day that she's she actually disappears. She goes and sees her mom. And she says to her mom oh, my foster parents said, yeah, it's no problem that I could, was allowed to come and see you. But when they spoke to her foster care, they were like, no. I said she could go for a walk. So she wanted to go and see her mom. Oh gosh. She left her mom's house after her mom had Oh my, she left her mom's house. Never seen again. Jesus Christ. Yeah. I bet her mom was so rude to her so when her body was discovered she had been strangled with her own pants. And I think that means pants. Oh, trousers. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Not still fucked up, not knickers. Yeah. Yeah, so the police didn't know it yet, but this would kick off a long and brutal investigation into the Green River Killer. So I'm just gonna quickly and once tell you exactly what he did to them, roughly what he did.'cause there's not a lot of detail into this, but basically there are so many victims of the Green River Killer that. There is very little detail about the specific crimes that he committed or what he did to these women. So Yorkshire Ripper, I could tell you what he stabbed each of them with. Yeah. But this, that is absolutely not the case. And to be honest, they found so many bodies in such quick succession. Yeah. They like also, if you found a body in a river, it is a lot harder to determine these things, isn't it? Yes.'cause of like how long they've been in there and stuff like that. You tamper with a lot of working Yeah, a lot of evidence basically. Yeah. From the body being in water for as long as it is. So if they're, and yeah. If they're all coming up at the same time Yes. Yeah. They're, it's just there's another one. It's definitely the same. Yeah. Okay. They're basically found in droves because I think he has like the, he has very traditional, like dumping sites, so like he dumps them there. For a while. So a lot of bodies are found Yeah. Together. So basically what he would do is he would prey on sex workers and runaways basically, because he was like, no one's gonna report them missing and they're easier targets. And then he, the way he would do this is he would pose as a customer and he would pick them up in his trucks. I also saw this thing that said that in later years he would use a picture of his son to lure the victims. So like he'd show them pictures of his son and start talking about his kids to make them feel comfortable with him because they were, he was like. Telling them a little bit about himself. Oh, being like, he a dad. This is, yeah. This is my son and I'm just going home to, and that would be him or whatever, create a level of comfort for these women. So then they were happier to like, go. I'd be like, Ugh. Yeah. I'd be like, don't show me a fucking kid. I don't wanna see your kid's weirdo. I'd work in the complete opposite way for us. Turn off. I'd be like, I don't like looking at pictures of your children. Why are you just carrying that kid around? Yeah. Yeah. So then he basically, he killed this says primarily by manual strangulation, which means with his hands. Yeah. Which is fucking horrendous. I think that's a very intimate and brutal way. Kill someone. Yeah. Intimate for sure. Personal way okay. And he didn't really like blood, like he avoided, bloody scenes. So it was usually strangulation to avoid all of that. And he sometimes used ligatures. Okay. And then he dumped the bodies in remote areas, obviously around the Green river. Yeah. He also sometimes liked to revisit the corpses. Yum. And you can imagine what he did. Yeah. When he got there. Don't even need to even question why you'd be there. Yeah. I am gonna go into it a little bit later, but we'll leave that for now because No thanks. I don't need to ruin anyone's data if any more than I already am. So on August 15th, 1982, so this is literally like the month after the first body is found. A man fishing had seen what he thought was a mannequin. We all know that it's not. Yeah. If ever it was just a mannequin. Yeah. These stories would be bad. Imagine if you just found a free mannequin just by the side of the river. No, because Did you watch Dharma where he does that? No, I didn't watch it. Did you ever watch it? I think it's just because I love Evan Peters and I was like, am I just gonna be like, oh no, love you fucking it freaks you out. Yeah. Or we talked about this before, but jake Hall. Yeah. Night. Night Crawler. Night Crawler. As soon as I watched that, I thought he was like the fittest, gar love. And then as soon as I watched that, I was like my skin, yeah. I don't wanna be Yeah. Makes you hate them. This is like Olivia Coleman in Fleabag. Yes. It shows that she's the best actor in the whole entire, they're so good, but they're all people. You hate her. And I was like, there's, I didn't think there was anything you could do that make me hate you. And then I watched her in that and I was like, you are the worst piece of shit ever. She bitch. Yeah. It's great acting. So yeah, a man fishing sees a mannequin. And then he quickly realizes that there's actually not one, but there's two of them. Ah, and they're not mannequins, they're bodies. When police arrived, they discovered. One more body. Oh, my fil That is absolute carnage, isn't it? The fact that he's so brazenly, just being like, oh, no one's found that one. So I'll just fling another one onto the piles. Yeah. He's literally throwing them in and I was watching this, I was watch, I've watched like loads of interviews and stuff, and I watched Chasing Killers episodes on the Green River Killer as well, which was really cool about the detectives. And there's three detectives who I think I mentioned later three detectives in this documentary like episode, and they're so fucking passionate Yeah. About this case. And like all of them break down multiple times. Yeah. During this it's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking when one person finds one body and is trying to find the person that's done it. But if they're coming out of your ears, it must just be trauma after trauma. And then you're just trying to like. Cope with all of that. And like then that's every time you find another body, that's another whole family of worlds of people that need to be informed and stuff. And you go through the process again. Yeah. I You start again. No wonder like to find that many at that you shouldn't even have to find one in your lifetime. Yeah. So these were the bodies of Marsha Faye Chapman 31, Cynthia Jean Hines, 17 and Opal. Charmaine Mills 16. Al Charmaine Mills. That's so fun. Although it does make me think of the Charmaine song. Yeah. That Girl's 15, that one. Yeah. Open my eyes. I love you. Oh my God. It's literally all coming back to me. Anyway. Who is that? Plan B? Yeah, I think so. So at this point, they realized that they, obviously they had a serial killer on their hands and they didn't have a lot of information. There wasn't a lot of evidence. But they were, they had four bodies at this point. And were talking about a month later. Yeah. When they found, when they found the first body. Yeah. So they're like, this isn't just a random act, this man is on a rampage. Yeah. And if you're finding three in one go. Yeah. And if you'd found them buried, there'd be an assumption that maybe they was, it was quite far apart. Far apart, but just thrown in the river. Yeah. And they're all at the same fucking you that has the assumption is that all happened. It means it's one after the other. Just being like, oh, dump hit in the same place because no one's found is so demeaning. Yeah. Literally. So I just did what you do. I literally r literal move on. Yeah. It's so sad. Anyway so literally the next day on the 16th of August, they created a dedicated Green River task force. And this was led by Detective Dave Riker, I think. And he was one of the guys in the documentary. Okay. Super passionate, yeah. And kept describing the girl, like the girls as like little girl, like somebody's daughter. Yeah. Like somebody, like I, I think whenever, when we did Yorkshire Ripper, like it was so abundantly clear that they just didn't fucking care to begin with. About who these women were. This didn't seem like the case in the Green River. Yeah. Like as soon as they started it was like, these are human beings. Yeah. And he's killing them. These people are families. These people. Yeah. But then I guess also at the same time, they did find. Basically four bodies in short, quick succession. Unlike I'm not saying what the Yorkshire Ripper guys did was Right, but they found one body at a time, didn't they? Yeah. Whereas these guys found literally four. And I feel like for a while they kept they kept justifying it. Yes. In their own way, like that it was in a valid way, but in like their own way, they'd be oh, it must have been because of this. Or it could have been like a dah. And then it was only when. It'd been across a period of time. And then you've got four bodies and then it's someone in a slightly more wealthy area that then it's oh, let's pay attention. Whereas this is oh no there's four within a month. Yeah. There's no denying at the same time. Yeah. This is not heartbreaking one time. This is heartbreaking for to, yeah. And then, so basically it was quickly established after this that he was primarily going after sex workers or young vulnerable women. So it basically anyone he felt that he could get his hands on and people would notice. Yeah. People had people walking around late at night. Yeah. In the dark. Exactly. Did you ever watch that thing called the Runaway? No. It was on, I think it was probably like a BBC thing, but it was on, I remember my mom was watching it when I was a kid, and there was this scene where this, it was just about someone that runs away and it was like a drama. And there's a scene where they, instead of crossing a busy road, they crawl in like the, and they put like a concrete thing underneath a big. Like for animals to be able to get underneath. They're crawling through it and then it starts pissing it down with rain and it, the thing starts filling up with water. And I remember watching that. I dunno if I'd snuck out of bed. I can't remember where it was or anything. Yeah, how you'd seen that. But I remember watching it and it being absolutely harrowing. Yeah. Like I still think about it to this day, like that scene of it I dunno what I, but I was just, no one ever knows what I was talking about. I think it must have just been like a four parter, like pointless thing the day. Yeah. No, I don't think I've ever seen it, but it was horrible. Like it was filling up with water and this person was like stuck in the chew. Oh, it was so horrible. I could not watch it anymore. It was horrible. I don't even wanna think about it. Yeah. I dunno. I brought it up. Yeah, she's shaking. She's fucking shaking. Yeah, it was horrible. So basically because it was determined that he was mostly going after sex workers. I. There was like significant public backlash and protests started. So the community felt that the police weren't doing enough because they were sex workers and that they hadn't acted fast enough. But there was, in the documentary there was also this woman, just this detective called Fay Brooks, who was actually like assigned to the task force and she worked in sex crimes. Okay. And like that was something that they used to do, bring people from other departments to like work on the task force. Yeah. And she like partook particular offense to this because she was like, we took it seriously from de do. Yeah. Like she, she actually knew some of the victims. Oh wow. She'd spoken to them. Yeah. Because I think it was Marsha Faye Chapman actually specifically that they mentioned that she knew because she'd worked in sex crimes. Yeah. Marsha Faye had made a claim against somebody. Yeah. Yeah. Because that is even in just a safeguarding perspective, if people are sex workers or people are single women with not a lot of support and something's happened to them for, from a safeguarding perspective, like it is likely that she's had to deal with young vulnerable women before. Yes. Because that have gone through something that, and if you work in sex crimes, of course you are gonna come across sex workers because that is what people do. They go after the vulnerable. Yeah, exactly. And some of the most vulnerable people are sex workers because they're out there Yeah. Dealing with lots of people. Yeah. Some of which are awful. Yeah. Some of which have very horrifying opinions of what they want to do with someone instead of it just being the fucking and what they're fucking allowed to do. Yeah. For sure. That's the, it is very likely that she would've known. But then, your, the hypocrisy of the this fucking man is absolutely unreal. We'll talk about it in a bit, but what? Yeah. Prick. Okay. So yeah, the in, I dunno, I wasn't there. I don't, I can't tell you. But from the documentary, there was also another man called John something who they were they're they were so passionate about this case, about finding who was doing this to these women and putting an end to it. I'm not saying that their methods weren't flawed and that they didn't miss stuff. It's just, it didn't feel like with the Yorkshire Ripper one, they didn't, they weren't blaming these women for the choices they'd made. They were like, no, we just need to do something about this person. So police obviously went to the public, as they always do in times of need as they're finding all these bodies. And in comes a cab driver called Malvin Foster. He calls up the task force and he basically says this man, I think his name was literally fucking Dave Smith. I was like, bullshit. No, it wasn't. Yeah, he's not real, is he? Yeah, Dorothy Signer. He's back actually. He's back. He's back. Yeah. So he says I think it's this man. You should look at him. He's dodgy. And they're like, okay we will take the tip. Yeah. So they look into Dave Smith or Dan Smith, whatever his name was. They look into him and they're like. It's not him that doesn't fit, but they recognized the FBI had said to them like, this man might try and interject within the case. I see. We have another one of those, so let's have a little lookie at Melvin Foster, shall we? Yeah. So they basically, they bring him in and they're like chatting to him and stuff, and they learn some weird stuff about him like that. He lives in one place, like somewhere far away, and he commutes into Washington to like work as a cab driver, even though he could work where he is, but he's going all that way. Yeah. And they're like, yeah. Which feels that's a bit dodge. Yeah. Why you suspiciously close to the Yeah. But for no valid reason. And he's always around, the strip, they always call it the strip, don't they? Like where these women work or like the red light district or whatever. Yeah. Like he particularly needs to be a cab driver in that area for some reason. Yeah. So it is quite sus and he, so he's like working around there and he comes in and he basically says no. I dunno, any of the victims, blah, blah, blah, blah. But basically they find out that he's got some warrants out for his arrest on like DUIs and stuff. So just why did you fucking ring in Melvin? Yeah. Melvin seems like a fucking idiot. You literally, you weren't even involved. Like you just ringing in and being like, it's Dave Smith. Just shut up. Do you not think, I hate to be sexist, but I'm going to be, do you not think it's such an inherently male thing to do? Yeah. Honestly, when the one that I'm doing for next week, there is an exact situation of this. Yeah. And it is a man being like, I just wanted to give you some advice. This is such a massive spoiler. And then spoiler spoilers, he's involved. Spoiler, he's involved. He's doing something sauce like just fuck off dude. Yeah, it's just, it is mad, isn't it? And I dunno whether to do it. Joanna Dehe, she never hid. She like was just like, I just wanna get fucking I don't care. I wanna go on a spree, blah, blah, blah. But she wasn't fucking ringing them and being like, gimme thought. Yeah. I like to be involved, but I want to point you in the other direction so that I can What? Laugh in your face. Yeah. When you arrest the wrong person. No, just stay out of the picture and you might never get found. Yeah. Don't interject yourself because then you are on someone's radar. Maybe it's just they like to tempt fate and it is. I think it's genuinely us usually is because they think that they're smarter. Yeah. So they think they're gonna outsmart this whole, and they maybe get a thrill out of yeah, sending people in the wrong direction. It's me or Yeah, it's me. Them on a we chair going through Yeah. I don't. Yeah, just shut the fuck up basically is what I'm trying to say. Go to bed. Yeah. Shut the fuck up. You would've just gotten away with it if it wasn't for yourself. So yeah. So he says no. I dunno. Any of them. But they're like, listen babe, we know that you've got some warrants out for your As, so we're keeping you overnight. Yep. And he's ah, shucks, they've got me, what am I gonna do now? Anyway, after he's in there overnight they bring him back in the morning and they say, what about now bud? You know them now? And he says yeah. Some if not all have been in my cab. And you're like, oh, okay. That's not great, is it? And then. He also did a polygraph, which he failed, and it was about whether the questions were around whether he knew who the Green River Killer was and whether he was involved. Oh. And he failed that polygraph, however, they just didn't have enough Yeah. Evidence. Yeah. So he just seems like someone that just wants to get involved. Yeah. Hence why he's going over to yeah. Built up areas. He's probably got. I think some sort of thrill of picking up sex workers. Yeah. My guess is, yeah he ising down and then as soon as all of this has happened, he's oh, more fame for myself more. It's the fucking coughing guy all over again, isn't it? Yeah. The sweating. Coughing man. The sweating, the coughing guy. Yeah. So he's let out and then when he is let out, they're like, okay, we're letting him out, but we're not just gonna let him start fucking killing.'cause if it is him, Yeah. That they're like, we're gonna watch him. Yeah. Surveillance. We're just gonna watch him. No problem. Do you know what he does? He runs to the press, he says look at me. I interview me. I wanna be big guys. I've just been arrested. Yeah. And then I watched the murder, I watched this one. I fucking, I'm sorry. I don't know if that man's dead or alive, but I hate him. Yeah. I hate him. I hate him. He, I watched this one interview that he does, and he literally is somebody says to him, did you kill those women? And he goes, I wish I did. And then he goes, I wish I knew who did. And you're like, are you fucking kidding me? Do you know what you're doing? You are wasting fucking time. Honestly, I wish I did. Honestly. And he's they're harassing me basically. And you're like, no, they're, it's such a nasty thing to try and get clout from. Yeah. Like it's such a nasty thing to mess with the order that needs to be taken to find what's happened. Like you're just getting in the fucking way. You're wasting time. Yeah. Just for attention. Fuck off Melvin. So yeah, they eventually give up on surveillance of him. But they're like, okay, we're just gonna put him on the back burner. We're not gonna forget that I'm entirely, but that is gonna have to be that for now. Yes. And they actually discover that during the time that they were watching him, a number of the bodies that have now been found went missing at that time. So it couldn't have been him. Okay. So basically it wasn't him, he's just a fucking Kurt and twitching nosy neighbor wants to get involved. So at this point they have found 13 bodies. Oh my god. In a year and a half. Jeez. So this man is on a fucking, how big is this lake? It's, they're not all the Green River sometimes They're not all found like in the Green River. Yeah. They're just found around the area. They're around. So they can't survey an area because it's not just like one portion of the river where they keep like coming up. Yeah. Sometimes they're found in the river, sometimes they're found in surrounding area. Yeah. It's just like a big open space where you can Yeah, basically. And I think the rivers like. Miles long. Yes. Okay, fair. I'm picturing quite a big river. Yes. So on March 21st, 1984, this is literally outta film. A dog brings home a bone to his owner. Oh no. Which turns out to be a human remains. So the owner is call the fucking place, call the fucking police.'Cause it's like I'm picturing like cartoon long. Yeah. Like a fucking arm. Oh yeah. So literally dog goes out the back garden is off like a load of woodland or like field. Yeah. And then comes back and he is got a fucking human arm in his handles, whatever. Yeah. They traced back where the dog had been. And they find the body, and then while securing the scene, they find another body. Oh my God. Yeah. And then basically this kicks off a discovery of numerous victims that year. So in 1984, they found fucking loads of them. Oh my God, this is so hard. I don't even have a number. Oh, this is horrifying, by the way. It's so insane. Like it's the most, this is why there isn't much detail about each of the crimes because they're just like fucking constant. Yeah, absolutely constant. And because what he's doing is strangling them, there's not I dunno where I saw it, but I saw something that said basically he solicits sex off them. Or like sexual act. And then while they're in the midst of the sexual act, so distracted, he'll distract body. Yeah. So sometimes he'll be like behind them and while he's behind them, he'll strangle them. Disrespect. But it's it's also. The reason why you don't go, like we can't, because obviously there's so many, but the reason why you can't go into all the victims is because, I don't wanna sound fucked up, but there's not development. No. It's not like one's, one was a practice and one's a trial, and then there was a goal at hand, or there was, something that wanted to, it is this person just enjoys just ending life and just kicking them out the fucking car. Yeah. I'm giving you some people's names, but there's bodies found in between these. Yeah. This is not even everybody that they found because they basically, it's not well recorded because they were finding so fucking many of them. Yeah. Yeah. Even the newspapers weren't reporting like. They found, three today for last. Yeah. It's such a difficult one as well, because it's not then you are like, let's find out who this victim's family members are and what close relations they had, and if they had something dramatic going on, like an ex or something. It's we have no links, we have nothing. No. We just have one person that is just murdering a mass speed and there's, and you can't look into different people's backgrounds really, because it's not gonna get them anywhere. Because it's not he's just going and finding a sex worker and just killing them no matter what. Yeah. Absolutely crazy man. It is. It is and he basically, he gets quite not smart, but he starts being like, oh, I'm gonna start moving them further away because obviously they're calling me the Green River Killer. They're getting doing. Yeah. And I guess if you're dumping like four fucking whole ass bodies in one area, you're gonna be like, they'll find them at some point. So now I move somewhere else because they'll never understand how far I've gone each time from where I am located. Yeah. So the remains of Mary Bridget Mehan, who was 18, went missing. She went missing in 1982 and she was found in 1983, but she was so far from where she went missing. This is just not even that long ago. No, this is so baffling that this is Ah, yeah. That's terrifying, isn't it? Yeah. It's so terrifying. That's like how, what are we on now? Like in the twenties? Yeah, to be honest, at this point in 1984, I think we're probably, yeah, I think we're in the twenties. I reckon we're in the mid twenties at this point. Good to God. The task force, they basically just didn't have the technology to do anything. They didn't have the evidence, they had like semen samples and stuff, but nothing to compare it against. And yeah. Also if it's in a woodland area, you aren't finding you, usually you can go through CCTV. Yeah. And you can find people's last movements like you in the wilderness. Yeah. You are not finding anything. You've got nothing. And yeah. It's so difficult to keep track of like how many people he's actually taking. Basically they do this campaign called someone out there knows something and I think it's like a TV campaign. They went on there and someone, quite much, you'll know something. Yeah. Basically. And they offer a hundred thousand dollars rule. Damn. A hundred thousand dollars. Yeah. But this leads them to a lady called Rebecca. So just Rebecca, she you don't know her name? Becky. Becky with a good hair. No. Yeah, I think that's like a pseudonym. I guess she wants to be, yeah. I think that would make her, I'm assuming, because all I found was Rebecca. Yes. If she's gonna be a survivor or victim potentially, yes. Yeah. Then that would track. So in 1984, when this happens, when this somebody knows something, happens. She comes forward and she says that she was assaulted two years before in 1982. She said she'd been picked up by John and he showed her an ID from Kenworth Trucking i'm assuming it didn't have his name on it, but it was just like, what was an ID actually? Yeah, but maybe she just didn't remember the name. I don't know. Maybe she didn't pay attention to the name. So he showed her his ID from Kenworth Trucking. She agreed to go with him, and they went to somewhere secluded Uhhuh. They began to get down to business. Yeah. And he became violent and tried to strangle her. She managed to get away, but when she came forward with this story, police were like, okay, what we are gonna do is we are gonna look through records of men who were repeat offenders in terms of being caught with sex workers. Yeah. Around that time and in that area. So they're like, we'll do that. And they do it and they realize that there's only one man on file who puts his employer as Kenworth Trucking. Wow. Okay. They created a photo lineup and added this person. So from Kenworth Trucking to it. Yeah. Fingers crossed they do it. Fingers crossed. And she picks'em out. Yeah. And it was Gary Ridgeway. So something else that emerges in this time is that Ridgeway had also been reported to be with Kelly k McGinnis, who is 18. She, so he was pulled over and she was in his car. Yes. Again, right? Yeah. But by this time when they're doing this in 1984, Kelly k McGinness is missing. She's a missing person. Wow. Okay. So what they're saying is they've got a note here that says he was pulled over with her, and she is now one of the missing girls. Yeah. So once it is very likely that they will find her body. Yes. So that further links him to another victim that potentially, yeah.'cause Rebecca's comment forward saying, I don't know if this was the Green River killer, I'm just telling you what happened to me. And then they're saying, so was he not interviewed for this before about her? I think not. Not about Kelly K McGinnis. Yeah. Because I think that was just like. Her last John was with her. Yeah. Also difficult because she is 18. So I guess like with missing persons, it's like she may well have just gone away. I'm not even sure that is something that would've come up in their investigation when they were like, all they knew is that she's missing, but now they're putting the dots together saying, this man was reporting to be with her. Yeah. Yeah. She's now missing and this woman is saying, this man assaulted her. Yeah. I also saw something that said that his name, I reckon this is something to do with, certain places not speaking to each other as well, because I'm not really sure how they missed this. Basically his name had actually come up once before. Fuck. So it was quite a lot, I feel. Yeah. One too many times. Mary Malvar, who was 18. Went missing. The day that she went missing, her boyfriend had seen her on a stretch of highway. Getting into a truck. And he, whether jealous or suspicious, I don't know. Yeah. Was just like, what the fuck is going on now? Yeah. I would be So it was like, who you, I'm gonna follow that fucking truck. Yeah. I'm gonna follow that truck. So he tries to follow the truck, but he loses it. You're like, okay. He loses the truck. But a few days later, so four days later Yeah. He calls the police to say he's found the truck. Yes. And it is parked outside Gary Ridgeways house. Oh my gosh. And so the police bring him in and question him, but he says, no, I have nothing to do with that. So that's it. And they're just like, okay, that's it. Yeah. Jesus. That's all I could find about that. So they just don't, yeah. People commit more crime, they can just get away with It's fucking mad, isn't it? So police arrest Ridgeway. And they take a saliva sample. Yeah. However, it's the 1980s. Yeah. Forensic technology is not great. No. So they cannot basically con Yeah. Convincingly connect his saliva sample to the semen samples. Okay. So they say, you know what we're gonna do is that, that fucking sucks. That absolutely fucking sucks. But what we're gonna do is we're gonna freeze it. Yeah. We're gonna freeze it. We're gonna keep it. And hopefully at some point in the future, that's gonna work for us. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it, I guess if it is gonna go cold, they're like, we need to preserve literally anything we can. Because this is, we've gotta keep it. Yeah. By 1990, after years of exhausting leads, the task force is disbanded. The city decides to stop spending money on it. Oh. They're not getting any closer to catching him. I think he's calm down at this point. So they're not finding as many bodies as they had been. Yeah. I think he, between 19 90, 19 82 and 1984 Yeah. Was his most active period. He would leave the house. Would you? And then he just there's that many bodies all the time and then no one finds out who is. And then the force also, I'm like disabled. The city just decides to stop spending money. Yeah. After he's killed something in double figures. Yeah. I literally I would never leave the house. No. I'd be like, I don't feel safe out there. The police have basically told me we're just gonna stop. Yeah. Because can't be asked. He seems to have chilled about Yeah. He's actually like pretty cool now. Yeah. He's stopped murdering so much. Yeah. He just does it like once every couple of weeks. Yeah. We can justify once every couple of weeks instead of four, every two, three days. Yeah. So I also wrote fun fact Ted Bundy. Little piece of shit. He crawls out of his hole and decides to get involved in this and starts talking about the Green River killer's gonna be like this and you're gonna find him and this is what he's gonna and blah, blah, blah. Anyway, he was right about things. Like he's a freaking tarot reader. Yeah. I think like he thinks that he basically is like a. Yeah, forensic psychologist now because he's a killer and he was right about some things I believe to do with him. But it's just yeah, I guess if you are a piece of shit, no one wants your opinion, needs dickhead, you're a piece of shit. You can get into the mind of a piece of shit. Apparently Ted Bundy had beef with a Green River killer as well. I don't know. I wasn't interested in looking into it, but like yeah. Anyway, so yeah, Ted Bundy sauce. So funny. It's probably a dick measuring competition as well. A hundred percent. Also, I hate to say it, green River Killer did kill far more than Bundy. Yeah, exactly. So that's probably why he's I'm more famous than you, even though you killed more than Me. Oh my God, G Grip. Yeah. Yeah, a hundred percent. That's exactly to something. So yeah, so it isn't until 2001. Yes, that DNA technology would be sophisticated enough to officially match the killer to the murders the world. You love a comeback. You I do. Do you? Yeah, I do. Don't I? You love a later solved. Yeah. I don't, I'd like it to be solved. No. Yeah, of course. But you gravitate. I do gravitate. The old saliva from the eighties is retested and gives a definitive match to semen found on four victims, including Marsha Faye Chapman and Cynthia Jean Hines. Wow. Thank fog for DNA. Do you know what I mean? What would they do? Like I thank fuck for forensic science and I don't think thank fuck for preserving. Obviously we'll do it at some point, but do you remember the Golden State Killer? Yes. Only found like in the last 10 years Yes. And was operating in the seventies. Yes. So gross and only found I think maybe through genealogy. Genealogy. Genealogy. Yeah. Absolutely. I think they're gonna solve a lot of fucking murders through genealogy. It's so crazy, isn't it? Yeah. Like things that people just probably this is why you should just never give up hope. Yeah, a hundred percent. It is. Fucking sad though, like that it's, it takes that long. I think the guy the lead detective that was like in this, literally, so he, like in 1997 he becomes the sheriff of king County. The guy who led this investigation and when it was disbanded in 1990, he was like big fucking I just didn't wanna leave. I just couldn't do it. Yeah. And he was like, and then in 1997 I got made Sheriff and he was like, and then I was like, we're fucking testing that DNA. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's so sad there. Isn't it like just, yeah. Like horrible. You lose so much sleep just thinking about it. I can't. Yeah. It's so sad. Okay but now we're on a slightly better note'cause we've got him little fucker. Yeah. And I can't wait for you all to hear what a fucking snot nose fucking weasel. This man is a weasel boy. Absolute weasel. And he does look like one Googling. Yeah. So on the 30th of November, 2001, it's confirmed. The killer is Gary Leon Ridgeway. Yes. 52 at the time of his capture at the time known as the Green River Killer or Strangler. I hate that. So let's get into this fucking guy. So he was born eighth of Feb, 1949 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Salt Lake City. When I was rewriting this, I, all I could think about was like I was getting flashes to, did you ever watch the Mary Kate and Ashley film? Yeah. Holiday in the sun. What is that, what it's called? One of'em is called Holiday in the Sun. And one of them was, and I've got this o the only bit of the film I can literally fucking remember is them all sat in a jacuzzi. There's a bunch of them in a jacuzzi. Yeah. Okay. But it's like cold outside. So that's the cold one. So its the cold one. It's not, so there's one where they No holiday in the sun. I know what one that is. What's the other one called?'cause I used to have a DVD that was like both of them.. What are you doing? I'm just so bad At Bones Film. Okay. Alexis sealed these ones winning London. Oh, I'm locked up. Film so much. It's getting there. That's it. So I had getting there and holiday in the sun like as a double DVD thing's beastly on there. Yeah. So yeah, that's it. Yes. They turn 16, it says Sweet 16, and then they get them like a little co. Why have I added that to my watch list? And then they head to Utah. For the Olympics. That's literally all I could think about when I was writing that little bit about, the bit that I can remember so well of holiday in the sun is the bit where she's you can have your cake and eat it too. And the other one's I literally don't even know what that means. And she's it means that you can have it and then eat it too. And they just have this like whole conversation about it. I don't remember that. And then they're like, it's like you can't make your bed without laying in it or something. And she's what does that even mean? I'm like, it just, it's such a fucking annoying bit. I think they were like Mary Kate and Ashley films were like Brain rock before Brain Rock existed, yeah. Anyway. Literally love it. I just, sorry, such a tangent. Okay. So yeah, he was born in Salt Lake City, Utah. His father Thomas was a bus driver. And described as a rather timid man. His mother Mary, however, was described by Ridgeway himself as an imposing and domineering head of the family. Oh my God. That's why the fucking dad's timid. Yeah. And then I wrote early red flags, so here we go. His mother reportedly physically abused him. It is believed he hated her, but was also sexually attracted to her from a young age. Who's reporting this? He is reporting. I think he often had fantasies about killing her. Oh God. I also read somewhere that when he wet the bed, she would wash his genital genitals. Oh. But even into his early teens. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is a Levi Bellfield. Weird. Oh my God. Bellfield. Yeah. Yeah. Was it that he slept in his mom's bed still? Yes. Yeah. And she bought his clothes because I literally write, I write that later, I think. Yeah. Then listen to this absolute fuckery. At age 16, he lorded and stabbed a 6-year-old boy in the liver who survived the attack. And Ridgeway never caught for that. Oh, he stabbed a 6-year-old. What are you crying? Lorded him into the woods. Stabbed him. Oh my God. That is horrifying. And apparently the 6-year-old boy said, yeah, he just walked away laughing. Oh, little queen. Fucking horrendous, isn't it? It's absolutely horrendous. He would go on to be married three times throughout his life. All his wife said that he had an insatiable sexual appetite, demanding sex multiple times a day. Oh my fucking God. You've got the fucking time. Yeah, I know. Fucking get a job. Often demanding sex in public places, some of which they would find out later were where he committed the murders. Oh God. Disgusting. Disgusting, man. I'm not being funny. If my husband. I was married to someone. And they were trying to bang me outside three times a day. I would be like, the fuck is, how do you even get me down the aisle? That's what I wanna know, because I'm not buying into that. That's all far too much. Honestly, I just don't, I like, unless there's, I just can't. Unless there's no way you can go that's indoors. But if you're married, you assume that you live together, which means there is a place. Yeah, A time and a place he's saying and like it's fair enough saying oh, this one time at quite a young age we were frisky and we maybe did this or that. Yeah. Like outside or whatever. Oh, we got in the car and we just were like let's go. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like then there's a massive difference between it being like, yeah, he demands sex three times a day and often it's outside. Imagine me inside doing the washing. You coming to me and saying, let's go outside and have sex. No, not, ah. And then you coming to me more than once in that day and saying that yeah. Meant me. I just what? No, that's my answer. Ridgeway had a son with his second wife, Marsha, and she reported that Ridgeways mother was an issue in their marriage as she controlled their finances and even purchased his clothes fucking Bellfield, even though he's married with a kid. It's also said that he's extremely religious. Oh yeah. And that is basically, so then he confessed that he targeted sex workers and runaways because they were easy to pick up and he hated them the most. So he basically was like, I hated that there were like sex workers around. And like I read something that said that his dad also was like,'cause he was a bus driver, used to moan about sex workers on his route. And I was like, what route is he taking anyway, one also it's keeping you in a job now. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. And be worried about the drunk men that get on the bus. Don't be worried about people just trying to make a living, get lost. Also the cheek of him being like, oh, it's'cause I hated them the most. But I'm religious so what is fine? Basically like neighbor in one of his, one of the very short clips I watched of him, he literally goes to the police when he's admitted to it.'cause he's just yeah, I fucking did it all. When he is admitting to it, he goes, I thought I was doing you guys a favor. What? Ridding the world of whatever. Yeah. Oh yeah. Honestly. Yeah. Yep. Cool. Fine. Yeah. Yeah. So as I said earlier, he strangled his victims usually by hand and then dumped them in wooded areas. He later confessed to returning to the bodies to perform acts of necrophilia, as we said earlier a habit. He later tried to curb by burying them. Oh yeah. So he was like, I can't stop myself. Let me bury them instead. Oh my God. And he also said. That he would do this so that he wouldn't have to kill another one so soon. Oh my God. Yeah. So out of my control that basically I kill them, dump them, then I go back, have sex with them, and then I go back and bury them. Yeah. But don't worry, it's just so that there was less victims than 40. Yeah. Also, in the documentary, I know that at this point when he's captured and stuff, they talk about the moment where basically the John Guy whose name I've forgotten the task force Disbands? Yes. He is the only person that stays on the Green River case. Okay. So he said like over the years, he goes and advises on other cases, but this is his sole purpose. He refuses to leave it alone, so he stays on the Green River case. But obviously everybody else, so Faye and Dave have gone off to do other things. Yeah. And he just keeps going. And then obviously they get the DNA NA retested and he brings both of them into a room together to tell them Oh. And like he says, I've got the envelope here. That's with his together. And then Dave says, it's Ridgeway, isn't it? Yeah. So they just knew. So they knew it was him. He was a slimy piece of shit. Quite controversially Ridgeway was actually offered a plea bargain, so he actually completely avoided the death penalty and it was in exchange for him leading authorities to other victims. So they knew that he had a lot. Yeah. The victims and they wanted to find their bodies, so they took death penalty off the table. Yeah. So that they could, because he can get more information over time. Yeah. And he was more than happy to comply. Yeah. So basically, did he want the death penalty? No. Too self-absorbed for that. Yeah. Not interested in dying. He was more than happy to take the plea and give them the bodies, so basically it brought closure to a lot of families and it actually led them to Pam, Annette event 15 and April Dawn Butra, who was 16. They were just among a few of the women that were found because they made the deal. Yes. Okay. So Ridgeway was sentenced to 48 consecutive life sentences without parole. Good. And actually might get out, I think see him soon. And then he also got an additional 480 years for tampering with evidence. What's the point? Just in case he makes that long. Honestly though, to just slam that on someone to just be like, not only was there no fucking chance, but this is how little chance that you would have. Yeah. Even if you lived four times the 200, you still ain't getting out of here. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. So he has 48 confirmed. Actually it's 49, but I'll tell you about that in a minute. Murders, but it is actually claimed that he is killed up to 71. Oh my god. And it's the highest number ever confessed to in American serial killer history. Wow. So basically in 2023. They identified another set of remains that were attributed to him. And that was Lori Ann Rasnick. And she was 15. But they're still going with identification. There are some that could be attributed to him that are still not been identified. And then so the last confirmed confirmed. So the 49th victim that is attributed to him, and he has been tried for where it was on 21st of December, 2010. Hikers in Washington, found a skull in the vicinity of where Marie Melva remains were found in 2003. So where her remains were found they found a skull in 2010. Yes. And they. Identifies it as belonging to Marrero, which I'm, I'll say that her name in a minute. And basically he was formally charged and in February, 2011, he entered a guilty plea and it was at, it was added. Oh my gosh. And she is the 49th victim. Have we heard anything from him, like remorse? Not Oh, I don't think so. But he's just happy to, yeah. I think he, I wouldn't even slightly consider forgiving that pre, but I just, I'm curious as to if he's been one of those people that are like, prison has made me want to confess to these crimes and apologize and ask for forgiveness. Nope. So he just likes the clout. Yeah. I mean that, all the things that I've seen of him is that basically, yeah, he just, he loves the sound of his own voice. Yeah. And also the fucking hypocrisy of saying I thought I was helping you guys out, but you sex workers. Yeah. So you are not just, you're not just saying they're a scourge and you are not luring them and then killing them. You are, you still got something you wanted from them. Yeah. He and he was, he'd been repeatedly. Caught with sex workers. Yeah. You are using them. You were using them for a service. Yeah. It like absolute piece of shit. Yeah. And then to claim that you're religious as well, get fucked. No one wants to, no one needs to know about your fucking religious backgrounds and how you think you're helping us. This is, what's wrong, is wrong. And this is fucking wrong. This is fucked up. There's nothing you, who do you think you are as well? Being able to say to the police oh, let's doing everyone doing you all a favor, right? That is not for you to decide. Yeah. That's not up to you. You're not allowed to take this many. Has anyone asked used to it? No, they haven't. Fuck off. Yeah. And yeah, the fact that it's clearly you can't think that we were doing us that much of a favor. If they were providing you with something that you wanted just before you literally ended their life and then disregarded them, you just, yeah. You nobody's, you just saw them as disposable. That was it. Yeah. That's literally it. You did it for you. Yeah. You did it because you're a sick fuck. That's it all. Not all of these women were sex workers. No. Some of them just vulnerable. Yeah. So don't fucking lie. Ah, should we do the victims? Yeah. Should we do one each let's do it. Okay. Wendy Lee Cofield 16 disappeared July 18th, 1982. Body found July 15th, 1982. Two is Giselle and Lavonne. 17. July disappeared. July 17th, 1982. Body found September 25th, 1982. Deborah Lynn Bonner. 23 disappeared July 25th, 1982. Body found August 12th, 1982. Marsha Faye Chapman 31. August 1st is when she disappeared, and she was found on August 12th. Cynthia Jean Hines. 17 disappeared August 11th, found on August 15th. Opal. Charmaine Mills 16 disappeared August 12th, found August. Terry Renee Milligan 16 disappeared August 29th. Found April 1st. Mary Bridget Mehan. 18, disappeared September 15th, 1982, and then found November 13th, 1983. Dela Lorraine Estes. 15, disappeared September 20th, 1982. Found May 30th, 1988. Boy. Yeah, that's horrible. Linda Jane, rule 16 disappeared. September 26th, 1982. Found 31st of Jan, 1983. Denise Dar Busch. Age 23, disappeared on October the eighth, 1982. Found June 12th, 1985. Shada. Leah Summers 16 disappeared on October 9th, 1982, found on August the 11th, 1983. Shirley Marie Cheryl, age 18 disappeared on October the 20th to the 22nd 1982, and was found on June the 14th, 1985. Lori Ann Renick 15 years old disappeared on the 26th of November, 1982, and was found in December, 1985. Rebecca Marrero, 20 years old, disappeared on the 3rd of December, 1982 and was found on December the 21st, 2010. Colleen Renee Brockman was 15 years old. She disappeared on the 24th of December. That's. Horrifying. Yeah. 1982 and her body was found on May the 26th, 1984. Sandra Denise, major 20 years old, disappeared on December the 24th, 1982. Again, God, same day. Yeah. And was found December the 30th, 1985. Wendy Marie Stevens, 14 years old, disappeared in March, 1983, and her body was found in on March 21st, 1984. Alma Ann Smith, 18 years old, disappeared March 3rd, 1983. Al was found 2nd of April, 1984. Dolores Laverne Williams, 17 years old, disappeared from March the eighth to the 14th, 1983, and was found on March the 31st, 1984. Gail Lynn Matthews. 23 disappeared April 10th, 1983. Found September 18th, 1983. Andrea Marion Childers. 19. Disappeared. April 14th, 1983. Found October 11th, 1989. Sandra Kay Garber. 17, disappeared April 17th, 1983. Found April 1st, 1984. Kimmy Kay Rick's Pit 16 disappeared in April 17th, 1983. Found December 15th, 1983. Mary Jane Malva. 18 disappeared. April 30th, 1983. Found September 26th, 2003. Carol Ann Christensen, 21 disappeared. May 3rd, 1983, found May 8th, 1983. Martina, Theresa Ali Ley. 18, disappeared. May 22nd, 1983. Found November 14th, 1984. Cheryl Lee Wilms 18 disappeared. May 23rd, 1983. Found March 22nd, 1984. Yvonne Anto, 19, disappeared. May 31st, 1983. Found October 15th, 1983. Carrie Ann Royce. 15 disappeared between May 31st and June 13th, 1983. Found March 10th, 1985. Constance Elizabeth Neon, 19 years old, disappeared on June the eighth, 1983, and was found October the 27th, 1983. Tammy, Charlene Lyles, she's 16 disappeared on June the ninth, 1983, and found April 23rd, 1985. Kelly Marie Ware 22 disappeared on July the 18th, 1983, and was found 29th of October, 1983. Tina Marie Thompson. 21 disappeared July the 25th, 1983. Found April 20th, 1984. April Dawn, Butra 16 disappeared August the 18th, 1983 found August 30th, 2003. Debbie May Abernathy, 26 disappeared September the fifth, 1983. Found March 31st, 1984. Tracy Ann Winston. 19 disappeared September the 12th, 1983. Found March 27th, 1986. Maureen Sue Feeney, age 19. Disappeared on the 28th of September, 1983 and found on the 2nd of May, 1986. Mary Sue Bellow 25. This is so many, isn't it? It's absolutely wild. So it's to be honest that the act of reading them out just really has makes it sink in. Yeah. This is how many he's been, this is how many, he's been like literally confirmed. It's so sad. This isn't how many he killed. Yeah. Mary Sue Beo 25 disappeared on October the 11th. 1983 was found on October the 12th, 1984. Pammy, Annette event, 15 years old, disappeared on October the 26th, 1983, and found on August 16th, 2003. Delise Louise Plager 22 disappeared October 30th, 1983. Found February 14th, 1984. Kimberly Nelson 21 disappeared. November 1st, 1983. Found June 14th, 1986. Lisa Lorraine Yates. 19 disappeared. December 23rd, 1983. Found March 13th, 1984. Mary Zeta West. 16 disappeared. February 6th, 1984. Found September 8th, 1985. Cindy Ann Smith. 17 disappeared March 21st, 1984. Found June 27th, 1987. Patricia, Michelle. Bak. Bak. Yeah. 19 disappeared. October 17th, 1986. Found February 1st, 1993. Roberta Joseph Hayes. 21. Disappeared. February 7th 1987. Found September 11th, 1991. Marty Reeves, 36 disappeared March 5th, 1990. Body found September 20th, 1990. Patricia Ann Yellow, robe 38 disappeared January, 1998. Found August 6th, 1998. That is just the confirmed. Yeah. There are numerous more that is suspected of and some, as I said earlier, that still haven't been identified. There was even lists of the ones that they think are connected to him. Yeah. That they haven't even proved that. Are that, yeah. Yeah. It is. The most. Yeah. Surreal thing. Yeah. And reading them out is just so horrifying to think. Especially because I bet he did not know a single one of their names. No. And I was like Ahm in an ing about doing it because I was like, oh, it's gonna take an awful long time and maybe people don't wanna listen to that. And then I thought, no, fuck that. Yeah. I was like, every single one of them deserved their names to be said. Yeah, for sure. If we're gonna tell the story, then this is, that's the fucking story, isn't it? Is that, that, how long did that just take us to read? And he took the lives of all of women on the same day. Yeah. Some of their disappearances in the same day. Yeah. You wouldn't get bothered to know their names, their age, or within days. Look at this one. October 11th. October 26th. October 30th. Yeah. November 1st. All in the same year. Yeah. It's so bad. It absolute madness. Like just. An evil prick. Yeah. Really bad. But yeah, that's just, I think that's really important to just read out everyone's, all of their names. We can't tell you much about them. No, there isn't a lot out there about them. And I fear that, we get to a point where we, when we talk about him, we don't say their names because, it's it's so hard to tell the story. To chronical chronologically go through and tell when every single one of them was taken. And you don't even know what it was like in the last moments. Yeah. Because there's too much to report. I even looked for his statement. I looked for his state given statement when he was arrested and I couldn't find it. So if anybody knows where that is because I was like, I'm so interested to see, I don't necessarily want to go into detail on the PO about, every murder that he's committed, but I'm so interested to see if he could give it. Yeah. Yeah. If he remembers specific things Yeah. If he knows anything about any of them, because the likelihood is he just saw someone pick them up, got them to do whatever he wanted, and then took their lives. And I bet he does not know a single one of those people's names and probably just blows a lot of it into just yeah. Whatever he felt like, yeah. Madness. So messed up. Yeah. Anyway. Yep. That's a bleak note to leave you on note for. Listen, I knew this was not gonna be a I knew this wasn't gonna be a fun big times. Especially I knew the end was gonna be bad because, that's not an easy thing to listen to. No. It was literally, we were halfway through and I was just like, fucking holy shit. Yeah. It actually really puts it into perspective.'cause you can say a number, but until you read that out and it's like the timeframe and the different ages and just and when they were found Yeah. And how long they were left. Like it just, yeah. It's so sad. Yeah. Real shame. Okay, that's us for this week. Yeah. Thank you for listening again. For listening. You know the usual subscribe, follow where you can. Yeah. Tell your friends about us if you think they wanna listen. Send it about repost download. Rate us at on Instagram and TikTok. Yeah. At Kill The Mood Pod. And email us at Kill the Mood podcast@gmail.com. Perfect. Thank you so much for listening. Have a look out for some of our stickers as well. We've made some little QR code stickers. Jamie's done a great job remote promote, so they're just around. Yeah, with our little Kill the mood. Yeah. We're gonna try and get them everywhere. One of Amy's friends asked us for socks today. Yeah. With our logo. 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