The Disappearance of Amy Bradley Part One

This week, we’re setting sail into one of the most haunting missing persons cases ever reported: The Disappearance of Amy Bradley.

In Part One, we head back to March 1998 aboard the cruise ship Rhapsody of the Seas, where a family vacation through the Caribbean took a terrifying turn. What began as a normal night onboard would soon become a mystery that has lasted for decades.

We’ll explore Amy’s final known hours, the timeline leading up to her disappearance, and the strange details that immediately raised questions for investigators and her family alike.

From conflicting witness accounts to the unsettling circumstances surrounding the ship itself, this case only becomes more complicated the deeper you look.

So grab a drink, settle in… because this story starts with a missing woman, but it quickly drifts into far darker waters.

Transcript

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Okay, so welcome to Kill the Mood Podcast. We're here to talk to you about everything spooky dooky. We are not professionals, and we mean no offense in anything we say. This is just us trying to make sense of the senseless. Without further ado, this week's case is... The Disappearance of Amy Bradley. Da da da Da. Da da da Da. Da ba dop, da ba boo. Have you ever been on a cruise? No. Do you remember that vine? It's I love this vine so much, and she goes, "Working my life away. Wish I could just stop- Wish I could just stop- and go on a cruise" and go on a cruise. Yeah yeah, I was just- I miss it I was trying to think of like when... Like, 'cause I've been on a cruise with my family before, and they do like a cruise news thing where they, like, go... Like, they go over the- Da da da da. Yeah, and they go over like the intercom, and they're like... I don't know why that... Sorry, that vine just reminded me. Have I ever told you that me and Tom have designated phone time at night? And the way we end every single day, and I swear to God it is my favorite time of day. Like- I look forward to it every single day. Whenever I'm having a bad day, it's all I can think about. Going to sleep. Is... No. We get into bed, and it's whenever we're, like, be- we're always so extra fucking stupid at night. Yeah. So we're just being, like, silly and laughing and like fighting or whatever. Yeah. And then, like... But in a cute way, not in a aggressive way. And... Yeah, like fighting. We're just fighting at night. And then every single night it's like he puts his arm up, and I say, "Can I come in?" And then I c- I lie on his chest, and we watch TikToks on his phone. Yeah. Yeah. And that's how we end every single day, and it is literally the best time of my life. Yeah, that's fair. Rude. Sorry. Love you, but it's just what I think about every day. And then when we don't spend nights together, that is what I think. Yeah. Didn't get designated phone time tonight. So Gen Z. Anyway, sorry. That was it. Can't relate. It is so Gen Z. Can't relate. Mine is, I go like this on the mattress of my bed, and I go, "Come on up." I go, "Come on up." Come on up. And then she jumps up, and then she curls right in, Willow, right into my chest. And then I stroke her head, and she goes Oh, that's so sweet. And I go, "Hard day, was it?" And then she just goes to sleep. Love it. And then I'm, like, awkwardly reading my book with my arm over her not to squish her, yeah. But she always does this fat sigh, and I always go, "Hard day, was it?" Yeah. Last night he decided that he was gonna see if he could fight me So he pulled me out of the bed and rolled me over onto his side of the bed And I was like- That's quite aggressive yeah, and then I was like, "I'm so weak and feeble." Yeah. "I just got-" And he was like- it was like- flung about you can't do nothing about it. And you were like, "I know." I know. Let's crack on. Anyway, sorry, that was too much of an insight into my relationship. Yeah, that was actually disgusting. Sorry. That was inappropriate. I hate it. Never ever do that again. Yeah, I won't. I just prefer you being mean to each other. Yeah, I'll never say nice things again. He's a prick. We hate you. I was literally just thinking about texting that, actually. I was like, "Shouldn't he have been home by now?" Ew. And he normally comes to annoy us as soon as he's home. I know, yeah. That is fair. I literally took out eight minutes from that one of him just- Yeah walking Shark. It's just a fucking outtake that's called Tom being annoying. Honestly, should I... I'll save it so that we can maybe just out him in some savage way- Yeah. I- in the future. So this is the disappearance of Amy Bradley. It's a bit of a whirlwind. Bit of a bloody whirlwind. Yeah. I also feel like it's gonna be really long, so that's great. Pfft. It's good that we both choose long ones on the same week. I know. We'll be going into tomorrow- Yeah for this one, but it's okay. So this story starts in San Juan. San Juan. San Juan, Puerto Rico. We can't get fucking l- past line one. What's wrong with us? In Puerto Rico on March the 21st- It's Puerto Rico. Puerto- Puerto Rico Rico. No, I'm joking. I don't know. I literally just have no idea. In Puerto Rico- Yeah, great is what I'm saying- That was fantastic as a British person. On March the 21st, 1998, where the Bradley family were getting ready for a fun Caribbean holiday. Caribbean Queen. Du-du-du-du- We never know the next one same dream. And our hearts will beat as one. Sorry. Anyway. Banger. So the parents, Iva and Ron Bradley, had won a cruise from Ron's work, all expenses paid for, and they had also said that they could bring their two kids- Set up. It's a set up. Literally. Sorry, go ahead. From the finance company or whatever. Set up. Some weird sus company too good to be true, is too good to be true. He's just in the dock, he's "I'm just a money manager." No, he doesn't say that, but he says something to do with like- I'm a money man "I work in money." "I work in finance." And yeah, they, like- Money man in finance. See, this is why her episodes are so long, because every time she says something I fucking skim, and I can't help myself. I know, and I also relate. Like- Yeah, sorry I join in on the trend. I'm gonna shout. Looking for a man in finance. Subscribe up the pay. Yeah, sorry. Continue. Yeah, so basically all expenses were paid for, and they also said, his work said that they could bring their two kids, Amy and Brad. And yes I mentioned this earlier, his name is Brad Bradley Which is- Great name so curious to me. Yeah. They'd flown in from Chesterfield, Virginia where they lived, and they boarded the Rhapsody of the Seas cruise ship. This ship was doing an eight-day cruise where you visit Aruba, Curacao, Sint Maarten, St. Thomas, and then you return to San Juan. Yeah. Nice. Amy was 23 at the time, and Brad was 21. Oh, just a baby. Yeah, just a little wee bab. And they all shared a whole cabin, all of them. But the trip was covered, so they were hyped regardless. Yeah. Of course. Amy had recently finished her degree in something that means nothing to me. Okay? That's good. So I didn't even write it down. You didn't write it down? No. I, she was just like, "Hey, that is not relevant, so I won't be talking about it." Business? I'm gonna Google it. Literally what I did. You continue telling me things. And she also had just got a new job in a computer firm. Okay. Also means nothing to me. She'd just got- I love how we pick and choose what we're interested in- Yeah in these stories. She got a new apartment. Also means nothing to me. No, I'm joking. She'd just also got... Oh, have you found it? No, sorry. Amy Lynn Bradley, that's not her. Yeah, that is her. Oh, it is? Why does it say, "Who disappeared in 1988"? Oh, yeah, sorry. PE, bitch. Fuck, I literally knew this as well. It's PE. It's so important in this. It's not. Sorry, it's... I was saying PE. Oh. It's physical education. Education. No, I... this is import- well, not important, but this is a factor in it as well, and I fucking knew that. But see what I mean, though? Physical education means nothing to me. She had a four-year basketball scholarship. It was PE. Oh, bro, it's literally so ingrained in my brain. I know all of that as well. Sorry, carry on. But I'm just not sporty, so that's why I don't care. Yeah. Okay. So she finished her degree in PE, and then she got a job in a computer firm. She'd just got a new apartment and a new dog. So this holiday was, like, a celebratory family holiday before she was settling down into the new job. Yeah. So they all get together. They get on this flight. They go to San Juan. Why do I keep trying to put myself through saying it? I liked it. It was great. Yeah. It sounded wonderful. Thank you. And they get on the ship, and the ship sets sail. They have one full day of sea travel, and then they arrive in Aruba in the early hours of the next morning. And then they have the whole day in Aruba, and then the boat is setting off to Curacao overnight. Okay. So this is the third night of the cruise on the 23rd of March, 1998. The family go out for their evening meal on the ship- which is they have like different nights. So there'll be like a cas night. There'll be like a whatever. This is the formal night- okay where everybody- Black tie yeah, everybody dresses up in like black tie. They, you have like professional photos- Ooh the night before, like on the staircase and whatever. And then you go to this like big dinner hall for a formal meal. After the meal, the family head to the pool deck for an evening party at 10:00 PM, and this was called something like, as they say in the doc, like Dancing Under the Stars- Yeah or something like that. Okay. Yeah. Like a prom. Yeah, and it's also like a sail away type thing, so they s- sail away. Yeah. It's literally like that vibe. They're like saying, "The ship's setting off." Sorry, my hair's too tight. It feels like my skull's gonna come off. Yeah. Carry on. Feels like my skull's coming off. Yeah, so it's basically like that kind of vibe. They're just doing like a sail away party- Yeah, great where they're being like, "Everybody come. Have a little boogie at 10:00 o'clock," and then at like midnight or whatever, the boat will leave, and then everyone's "Whoo, we're going off to another place." Yeah, okay. Great. So the boat leaves Aruba at around 1:00 AM whilst the pool party was going on, and Amie's parents said good night to Amie and Brad, and they headed to bed- Nice at 1:00 AM. Yeah, fair enough. They were like, "Fuck this. We're old." Not that really matters, to be fair. No. But that's where their vibe were at. Amie and Brad, 23 and 21, were like, "We're going to the disco." Yeah. So they head to a different it's like a club vibe. This whole thing was outside, and then they go inside to a different area of the boat. And they go to the disco. Can I tell you what my problem is with a cruise? Go on. It's all the things I don't want in a holiday. All-you-can-eat buffet? Why don't you want that? Well- Pool deck? that, love tennis courts? Yeah, but- Chocolates- it's on water on your pillow? It's on water where the sharks are. Yeah. We don't know anything about the ocean. Yeah, that is fair. It's terrifying. We know more about space than we do about the sea, and- Yeah, the sea is fucking hard close, fucking close proximity to a bunch of fucking boring bastards. Yeah, to be fair, I have been on a cruise, and I was- I didn't even ask you. Just realized. But I was like, "You're-" I thought you were being like, "No, I didn't ask." I didn't ask, so why are you telling me? No. What I meant is like you asked me, and I didn't even ask. So I've been, I went on two. One time I went with like my mom I went with my whole family, but like my mom's friends and I went to the kids club. Yeah. And like I'd just be like at the kids club, so I was like a, quite a young teen. And then the next one I went, I was 18. My brother and sister weren't And everyone is old. Yeah. And I just got pissed the whole time. Yeah. I went to the spa with my mom for a day. I was like, everything every excursion you try and do is spenny. Yeah. My parents paid for us all to go, and it was like, "Last holiday, peace out." Don't ask me for another thing ever again. And I had a- a fun time because there's swimming pools, there's tennis courts. There is loads of fun. It's like your own little weird, creepy village. But- Yeah, but if you have to describe it as your own little weird, creepy village- Yeah then there's a problem with it. And also I just, like- Also, another problem, I have a phobia of lifts. There is 19 floors- No, yeah on a cruise ship, and you, your cabins are at the bottom. One of the times, the one, the first time that I went, we went over the Bay of Biscay, which is from Southampton out into wherever you're gonna go. I was sick for three days. No, I just, I can't. I, there is nothing... And maybe that will change- when I'm older. I was literally trapped seasick on a boat. There is nothing appealing to me about a cruise. Yeah. Nothing would heal me except for if I went out on the deck in the middle of the Bay of Biscay, and this fucking s- wind was making my mouth like ar." And it was the only thing that stopped me feeling sick. So I'd be stood out there in the freezing cold- Yeah just getting blasted in the face with rain and sea, just watching these terrifying waves because I was like at least I'm not vomiting." No, I I, I don't think I could. I just don't. Yeah. No. And to be fair I I saw loads of really cool shit when I was on there. Yeah. But I was like- I like- If I was going on it with my mates- Yeah and- I like the premise of it. I really do because you get to see loads of cool places. I just don't like the idea of being stuck on a fucking ship. Yeah, that is totally fair to you. All I think about is- I can understand why it'd be appealing for some people it should be Titanic, but it's not. Have you ever seen Ghost Ship? No. Yeah. It's like J.Lo. Is it J.Lo? I've just made that up. I think she's in it. JoJo? Anyway, JoJo. I was always confused- Wanted to go J- J.Lo and JoJo. No. She they go onto this abandoned ship, and then basically it's just riddled with ghosts. And- basically they're like, they have a dance like you're talking about. And then this- This is giving triangle of sadness whole... It is giving triangle of sadness. And everyone gets really poorly. And every- no. This fucking, somebody wants to kill everyone on the ship, and this fucking wire comes through on the whole dance floor and slices everybody in half. Oh my God, that is quite- It's aw- no. And that's not even my biggest issue. It's the water. To be fair, I literally got some fucking... That's where my calf muscles have come from is from being on a cruise because literally every single level is two full flights of stairs. No, I just wanna be still. And just to get to the all you can eat buffet- Yeah I'd have to walk up 19 flights of stairs. I'd sleep underneath the table. Yeah. But- I've taken some good memories from that place though Yeah. Anyway, sorry, carry on. But yeah, basically there's vibes, but I just think it's like vibes for old people unless you specifically go on like a younger person's cruise- because, I don't know, at 21 and 23, like there is a disco. I don't know what the fuck this one's going on till 3:30 AM, 'cause I didn't find any of that shit when I was on one. Yeah. But also, I was the only 18-year-old, and- I thought old people were in bed by 7:00. Yeah, like my siblings couldn't come with me, and the adults were too pissed by then. And by old people I mean me. Yeah. Yes, so they go to the disco. A few hours later, Brad was leaving the club, and he like ushers Amy, who's on an upper level dancing, so he can still see her from the, like the dance floor. And he says "Oh, I'm going outside." He hangs out for about half an hour outside on the deck, and then he heads back to his cabin at around 3:30 in the morning. I'm assuming they've both made friends though, and they're not just hanging out separately for no reason. Yeah, they're like just kinda dancing with everyone- They're just saying like- and having a few- "You take one side of the club, I'll take the other." Yeah. They're just like, "You enjoying it?" Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, no, I think it's just that they're both like vi- like they're really good mates- Yeah but they're also just like- they're making out. Yeah "Let's just both go to the club- and have a few beers and stuff." He says that she's, by the way, just to note, that she wasn't really that pissed. But also, later in the doc it says that she'd had seven beers, and I would be fucking gone. I can tell you, I don't really know what my limits are, but I do know that after eight beers I'm definitely fucked. I can tell you that. That is something I do know about myself. Eight beers is 100% where I'm like, "No, I'm fucking gone." I thi- I think if I... I guess as well, like they've gone to a formal dinner and had a few, and they've gone to a, they've gone to three separate places- Yeah throughout the night, and she's drank beer and stuff, but... And it is 3:30 in the morning. If I'm being absolutely honest with myself though, I think I'm fucked after four. Yeah. And I guess they've had a three-course meal, which might have leveled me out a little bit, but- I think that would just make me feel sick, but still drunk seven beers, bro. Yeah. I just can't. But also, what we'll also find out later is that she does love a beer, so like- Oh, okay she might have a better- So like maybe she's got a high tolerance better tolerance than us Yeah. Even though we love a beer, but like we just can't handle it. We fucking love a beer. Yeah, so he gets back to the cabin at r- around 3:30. After about five minutes, Amy also comes back into the room, and she uses her little key card to scan into the room. She comes in and they both go to the balcony, because everyone's sharing a cabin- so they don't wanna wake up their parents. And they finish a drink together. Whilst they were drinking, and like finishing up talking about their night, Amy says to Brad that someone had made a pass at her during the night. She said it was the bass player of the band at the party, but she completely shrugged it off. And they were just both like laughing about it- Yeah what a ridiculous time. and then they said they were both gonna call it a night. So Brad is going inside, and Amy says that she just feels a little bit funny and she's just gonna sit on the balcony and get some fresh air. Yeah. Brad closes the balcony door fully, and then goes to bed. At around 5:30 in the morning, so that was probably between 3:30 and 4:00- Yeah so about an hour and a half later, Ron, the dad, wakes up, and he, and Amy's not in her bed still. Yeah. However, he looks out the balcony window and he can see her legs on the lounge balcony chair thing. Oh, so she's sat out there? Yeah, so she's still sat out there. And he's "Okay, no worries. She's fine," right? And he goes back to sleep. What kind of fucking resolve does this girl have to have been, had a three-course meal- to be sat on a balcony at 5:30 in the morning and still be- not just roll on into her own bed? Also she could potentially be asleep. Yeah, maybe she's fallen asleep out there. I think he just wakes up and says, "Oh, she's just out on the balcony." I think her legs are there. I can see- that she's there, but you don't know if she's awake, yeah. But I think she is, and it's, it is rogue. She's just gone out for a formal dinner with her family on a cruise ship, and she's the only one awake still at 5:30 in the morning. It's a bit wild. But- I can understand 5:30 afters, but I wouldn't be up at 5:30 by myself. I know. And if and if you were like, "I'm going to bed," at 4:00- Yeah I wouldn't be like, "I'm just gonna stay up and hope that someone else comes out here- Yeah in my cabin with, when all three of my family members-" I'd be knackered. Yeah. I'm, just thinking about this is making me tired. Honestly. He wakes up and, yeah, he sees her, and he says that he could see her legs and her shoes on the floor or whatever. So he goes back to sleep. At 10 to 6:00, so 20 minutes later, something wakes him up again. But he cannot to this day- Tell, yeah tell you what it is doesn't know what it is. Obviously has replayed this millions of times. Yeah. He doesn't know what woke him, but Amy was gone. Yeah. The balcony door was open this time instead of shut, about 12 to 14 inches, he says. I don't know how you're knowing that from just waking up and seeing it, but it's open. Yeah. Like- Significant. Something could get through it. Yeah the balcony door being open didn't wake him up. But maybe the I don't know, breeze. I don't know. Or, hear me out, front door hit something. Front door. Front door as it shuts. As it shuts. Yeah. He says he could not tell you- Yeah, what it was what- Just something woke him up. Yeah, something really woke him up, and he just was all of a sudden awake. The balcony door was open. She was gone. Her cigarettes had gone there was like some in the ashtray and stuff, but her actual pack of cigarettes, which I think he might have seen when he's w- Okay Saw her cigarette, saw her lying there, thought she's outside having- Yeah a ciggy. And the top that she was wearing that she'd gone to the disco in was a yellow polo shirt, and he got up and went outside to fully check where she was, and it was lying on the back of the chair, and her shoes were still there. Okay. So he's They were basically coming into port at this point. It would probably still be like a couple of hours or whatever 'cause it's just before 6:00 AM. So he's "Oh, I'm confused where she is, but maybe she's just up getting coffee or something like that." Yeah. So he leaves the apartment and goes to look for her. Yeah. Now, bearing in mind, a cruise ship is fucking huge. Huge. Yeah. And my parents would've just been like, "Your girl's gone." Yeah. "She's gone to the buffet. She's gone to the morgues." Yeah, I'm not sure anyone in my b- my family would be concerned if they woke up and I wasn't there. I'd be like, "Where are you gonna go?" Yeah. Do you know what I mean? But maybe he was concerned because he knew that she'd been up all night. Yeah, maybe. I don't really know. Like- Or maybe it's just like a gut instinct thing. Yeah. You can't- That it's a bit weird yeah, you can't ever argue with that. Also, to be fair to him, shirt over the back of the seat- shoes on the floor, maybe you'd be a bit like, "What?" I think later on there's talk about how she was wearing something underneath that. Yeah. It was just the over shirt. Okay. And her sandals or something. And maybe she put some other shoes on. Yeah. I think he was just like, "Oh, the stuff that was out there, some of it is gone and some of it was still there." And if she was at a disco, maybe she was wearing some form of heel. Yeah, exactly. And then she'd left the heels and sh- try- gone into more comfortable shoes, maybe. Yeah, I think he was just like, "Whatever she was doing some of her stuff's still here and some of her stuff's not still here." Yeah. And it's still technically in the 5:00 AM realm. It's not actually 6:00 AM yet anyway, for some reason, gut instinct- like him just being- Goes to look. Fair enough a good person. I don't know. He goes to look for her, and he's looking everywhere for her, and he can't find her, so he goes back to the cabin and everyone's waking up. And it's 7:00 AM-ish at this point. So he's been looking for an hour or so. And he comes back and he says, "I can't find her anywhere. I don't know what's going on." So all of them start looking for her. Yeah. They get up. They start their day or whatever. The boat, the re- I think the reason why there's a lot of pressure and time is because the boat is so close to docking, and once the boat docks, they just let people off okay. So you wouldn't know if she then got off the boat- And once you- Or if something yeah, I get- They kind of- I get what you mean they kinda do a thing as well, like there's a time, like 5:00 PM is where the boat's gonna leave, and you have to be back on the boat by that time, and they'll call your name and stuff like that, and they'll say "Does anyone know," like this, for, other people in the cabin and stuff like that. But at the end of the day, if you miss it- You miss it, yeah that's not really their fault. Yes. So I think they were just like, "Let's just find her before people start getting off this boat." Yeah. And right now she can't be anywhere else other than on this boat. On the boat, yeah. So they're looking around frantically, and they're panicking. And they go to reception, and they ask them to do a voice out to everyone, and basically the people that are in charge of that, they say no. And they're like, "It's too early. It's 7:00 AM." It goes into all the cabins. It's like the cruise news I was telling you about earlier. And they just are straight up like, "No." "We're not doing that. It'll piss off our customers that don't wanna get out of bed yet." I bet you feel awfully fucking bad now. Yeah. Real bad. C- so there was other people so there's all these people that they're saying "It's 7:00 AM, it's too early to be doing announcements," and stuff. And then there's another group of people that are up and getting ready to get off the ship. So eventually they do an announcement, because I think it's like they're getting too close to opening the gates and letting people off. Yes. But the first instant, when he's realized within an hour- They're like, "No" they're saying no. So they could have had far more time- And an hour is, like- making the calls the first hour is the most crucial time- Yeah in a missing person's case. I don't know if you've ever seen The First 48, but- Yeah. Yeah. They'll tell you. Eek. Yes. So they end up doing an announcement, but the ship were refusing to wait for her to be found because they were just like, "People pay thousands of pounds for this. We have," "There's all these other people." And what is thousands of pounds when a young- Honestly woman is missing? Honestly. And they're saying, "She's probably just at the buffet. She's probably just here. She's probably just gone up to the top deck," or whatever. "It's a big place." "You'll find her." So they refuse to wait, and they just let people off. Of course they do. Yeah. And it is complicated because, they're saying, "It's not a big deal. There's a reputation to uphold, and we don't want people to be pissed off." But at the end of the day, there's a missing fucking person. Also, I- It doesn't matter how little you think that drama is, if it's solved, it's a little drama. I- If it's not solved- just to say, it's not complicated because the reality is it's n- it doesn't take much to say to people, "Hello, everyone." So sorry to disrupt- your day. We're just a little bit concerned about a passenger who hasn't been seen for a couple of hours. Yeah. Could a- if you, Amy, are you here? If anyone's seen anything suspicious- If anybody's seen her- Yeah can we just please report- I don't think it's complicated. Yeah. I think that- But like I, I understand the thought process behind "We, everyone's paying a lot of money." But if you have a problem with that, then fundamentally you're an awful fucking human being. Yeah. Yeah, all you care about- You're an awful human being- is what's going on in your day if you don't like the idea of an announcement that might m- wake up a few people- and might delay you slightly because they can't locate a young- Yeah woman. Yeah. And they're saying, "Oh, it's complicated because we don't wanna wake people up." Yeah. "It's complicated because this, and this." But this case is proof- Oh, sorry that at the end of the day, s- like- Yeah just do what you need to do. And- It's better to be overcautious- Yeah than it is to just let this shit slide. Exactly. Just be dramatic about it, and most likely, 9 times out of 10, that person will be found- Yeah and everything will just be- And great restoring back to normal. You might have a- Now it's a dumb story you might have a few people like, "Oh, I was a bit pissed that you did that to me this morning and woke me up." Yeah. And they say, "Oh that, that kid found her mom, actually." Yeah. "So fuck you." Yeah. What I mean is that they're being like- Yeah "We can't-" No, I get it. I get why they think it's complicated, and they're saying, "We can't do it." I just think- The announcement pisses me off that it's fucking wild. The announcement pisses me off straight off. I get that, I get them not- not letting people off the boat not letting people off. That makes sense. But if you just made the announcement the hours before that they'd asked, then maybe in your heads it would be a lot less complicated by the time you got there. Because still, nobody's seen her. Yeah. Nobody's reported for her, and she's not made herself known to a single member of staff. And if you'd done the announcement, she might be like, "Oh my God, that's me." Yeah. "I'm literally just sat at the pool-" Yeah "just trying to get some rays this morning." And even if you then still got to the docks and still let people off, off, at least you made the fucking announcement. 100 million percent. Yeah it's so fucked. And there's some people in- And do people get off and then not get back on? Or does everybody- No, every- get back on? Everybody gets back on. Yeah. It there's a monitor you scan off, and then you scan back on. Scan on. And I think you need your passport and, like, all of this stuff. And it's quite well monitored. Yeah. But yeah it's just interesting. It's interesting. We'll go into it. Yeah. It's interesting. So it, it is now, so they're letting people off the ship, right? It's 7:00, 8:00, whatever. And it gets to 9:00 a.m., so it's three hours after her being missing, and they are like- we've not found her. You've done an announcement. You've started letting people off this boat. We need to find her." So actually, what the whole of the cabin crew and everyone that works there does, is they complete a full search of the ship, and every single crew member checks every single inch of the ship. And I think it's something like 500 people or something. Yeah. And they check every... the guy in the dock is "We check every drawer. We check every-" Drawer? Yeah. And I was like, "What the fuck is she... Do you think she's gonna be in a drawer?" Do you think she's in a drawer? But they were, like, trying to be like- Yeah but literally me and Lauren were like, "The drawer?" Nook and cranny is what- Yeah he almost said. Literally, he was like, "We check every drawer." Yeah. I was like, "She's not in the drawer." She's not in the drawer. The... What? I guess if someone's done something to her, though, evidence could be in a drawer. Yeah. I think he was just being like- I get what you mean "We literally check everything." Yeah every inch. But you didn't make an announcement, so shut the fuck up. Yeah. I was already pissed because the... Also, this cruise director guy, he's such a dick. And he was, like, showing off his dance moves that he was doing with the old ladies in the dock as well, and I was like, "Do you think this is funny? Is this a barrel of laughs to you?" He is a twat. I don't like him. But he was the one that was like, "Look, we can't be upsetting. It's the customer. The customer's key. You can't be doing an announcement at 7:00 AM." And I was like, "Why? It's a missing person." I hope Amy Bradley's family has sued this man. I think they tried to sue them a cou- the cruise- Cruise ship line company after, but it's so compli- Because the other thing that is terrifying about a cruise ship is there are no laws. Yeah. Because you are- It's international waters in the middle of the sea. Yeah. You are in the middle of nowhere. And the Lord and God and person that you look up to is just the person that's driving that ship. Yeah. You can't work out where things happened and whether it's on US or whether it's in the Caribbean or, like, where you c- Yeah it is so complicated- Yeah to blame- That's why pirates did what they did. Yeah, to blame the right people f- for these wrongdoings. It's- There's no laws at sea. Yeah. It's literally just a free-for-all. So they agree to do this full search because I think they're like, "Oh, these parents are just oh, so annoying. Now that everyone's off the ship and we'll have a few hours of downtime, I guess we'll just search the whole ship. Will that make you happy?" They're freaking out. They find literally nothing, and then they search every f- all 500 staff members or whatever all search for an hour. 'Cause do you know what else you did? If someone's done something to her, giving them a hell of a lot of time to sort out. Yeah. Oh, for sure. For sure. They call the Curacao police immediately after this. They do the search. They're like, "They're not there," so they just call the embassy or whatever. And they say... And basically the police on this island are like, "If someone has jumped off the ship, or they've fallen in the sea, or they've ended up out at sea, due to the shore, like the currents that they have in that specific area and the winds- bodies wash up, will wash up- Will wash up on shore on shore. The fact that they, she was seen so close to them docking- Yeah is that- The likelihood that if she fell off- If she fell off- her body would probably come off or jumped off, yeah. Yeah. Or anything happened to her where she ended up in the sea- Yeah her body would've washed up- Washed up to shore. They also have facts and figures about what would happen if a shark ate someone. And it would be that they won't eat her completely. Yeah, so part of her would wash up. Some part of her, some clothing, some body parts, some- Yeah anything. So some indication. Something would've come up, so they're being like, "Nothing as of yet." Yeah. "However, if this happened at 5:50 in the morning, whatever-" Yeah, there's still a chance that- Yeah we're not gonna get it yet. Yeah "There's a potential that it's not washed up, but it already should have-" Yeah by the time you've docked in here. But we will keep searching." So the search in Curacao was literally huge. Everyone was, like, getting straight into it because also it's an American- Yeah on Caribbean sand. Yeah. Soil, sand, soil. Caribbean soil. Caribbean sand. So they're being like, it's this huge cruise liner that's come in, and we have to make sure that all these people get by. This white woman has been, like- Yeah It's like- yeah. Big deal. It's a bigger deal, I guess- Yeah to the c- it's like the big cruise people come in and say, "We've lost a passenger." The, yeah, this is a, also it's bad for them- It's bad for them yeah. It's bad for tourism. Yeah. It literally will ruin them, so they're being, like, even more thorough than they would normally be. But there's no clothing. There's no body. There's nothing. So 5:00 PM is coming around, and the ship is like, "We're carrying on." "We're, the show must go on." Yeah. It's one person who's an adult. One missing- person. They're saying, "It's one person out of all of these passengers that we have on the ship." Look, look- "She's an adult." Look, we only lost one. Yeah literally. We only lost one, and i- in the grand scheme of ratios, that's not bad. That fraction, it, that percentage. Yeah. Every other time we've done this, we've not lost any, so it's been 100% success- Yeah rate until this time. That is literally one human life. It's not even that big a deal. I know. It is so baffling that they weren't just "Stop this fucking cruise right now." Yeah. But- Also, was everyone on the cruise not "What the fuck?" It's really hard because- You don't know what they know the cru- the cruise is huge. There is thousands and thousands of people. Yeah, that's why I mean you don't know what they know. And they, and rumor's not spreading- Yeah at the end of the day, they're panicking saying, "Where's my kid? Where's my kid?" And people are just getting off the boat like, "Jesus, calm down." And then they're just going about their day and not thinking about it. It's, you don't have to get back on that boat until 4:00 PM or 3:00 PM or whatever, and then it will leave at 5:00 PM, and that's probably when rumors are spreading of people being like, "Did you hear that they did a big search of the ship today- Yeah after you guys left?" There's miscommunication because the people that are on the ship can't tell the people that are off the ship. And did they search people's cabins then? I think they searched- Yeah fucking everywhere. Everywhere. Like every single inch of the whole entire place. Every- 'Cause you would... I would've thought that's something you'd have to inform people of. You... They go in there and they clean your room like every day. Yes. Which is also something else that we'll have a fucking problem with. But then there's cleaning- and then there's going through every drawer. I think they were just like... 'cause I'm trying to remember of like when I was on there, like you have one person that kind of wal- looks after like each floor and whatever, and they would literally move your pajamas and stuff- and put things away for you and things. Yeah. No that's- So I think it's quite safe yeah, as you do in every hotel room. Yeah. And I think that's like where people would put their things- Valuables that they didn't want you to touch. Yeah. But everything else is just like- Fair game they can just go through your shit. Yeah, like they would rearrange things and stuff. It was like quite invasive. But, they're saying they're going through every single... They're opening every single wardrobe to try and find anything suspicious, but they're not necessarily going through your pockets. Yeah. So 5:00 PM comes around. The ship's getting ready to leave. There's no sign of her at all, and at 6:00 PM the boat leaves- Yeah without her. Are her family on it? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Her family- So I didn't know if they would... why would you stay on course? It's such a hard one, isn't it? It's it's difficult. 'Cause they're saying they think she went missing before that boat docked. Yeah. But they're also saying- But we don't know if she got off that she could've slipped off the boat- Yeah with someone, and that's it. Yeah. They don't know. So they're freaking out. They're just like, "We need to stay near the cabin because if she somehow got lost, like she'll come back to us, and she'll come back to the cabin, and she knows where that is," and that's like a safety or whatever. The general vibe from all the staff is just normal operating procedure. They're being like, "Let's keep everyone else calm- and just deal with this family stress in our own kind of way," right? So everything just carries on as normal. Yeah. Which is- Seems fine absolutely terrifying. Yeah. Oh, so the guy that pissed me off, his name was Kirk Detwiler and he's just so nonchalant the whole time, but I wrote his name down because I was like, he's one of the people that are like, "What you gonna do? It's just normal operating procedure, isn't it?" People go missing. Yeah. You gotta keep the people happy. Yeah. I think that she jumped, and I think the family were just really freaking out, and I think at the end of the day, the show must go on. So what's his theory about the fact that she never washed up if she jumped? Honestly, don't know. This guy is the worst ever. Yeah. So then they're obviously just in the middle of the fucking sea. Yeah. They're off in the middle of the sea. You're so far away from any authorities, any laws, any structure or anything. The next day they arrive in St. Maarten. There had already been breaking news about this from the moment the ship had docked in Curacao, because they were obviously everyone was telling everyone, and they were like, "The ship's coming here the next day. You guys need to be on it." Yeah. Whilst the ship was actually docked, Amy's family had got off and... Or used the ship phone on the ship- Yeah and they'd called home, and they'd said, "Have you heard anything- Yeah from her at all?" Someone was looking after Amy's new little dog, which is the little cutest, like- Oh, yeah Little terrier thing that you'll ever see. The... So someone has called her best mate, who was looking after the house, the people that were looking after Ivor and Ron's house, because they had loads of birds and dogs and stuff like that. Just seeing if sh- anyone had heard anything somehow. Yeah. She'd got lost somewhere- Yeah, and she managed to call home and she managed to just remember the house phone number. I don't know. Obviously they'd heard nothing, but they were like, "Ask everyone- Yeah and spread the news, and we'll call you as soon as we've found anything else out." So it had already got back to Virginia. No one had heard anything, but this story was already spreading everywhere, because then the boat just goes off into the night. And they're just sat there "What the fuck's gonna happen? Are they gonna dock in St. Maarten tomorrow and she's gonna have been found? Who knows? 'Cause we're just at sea." You something else to note about St. Maarten is that you need to get a d- you can't dock fully at the dock. Sorry, I was just checking if they were the same thing. They're not. They're not. Yeah. Okay, fair. We're good geographical queens. We know. You can't literally pull in and dock. You need to get a dinghy from the port. Like- Yeah people would get off the ship- Little ship onto a ship, and then- Yeah they would do little trips and stuff. So the police are literally razzing it out to the cruise ship as soon as the cruise ship pulls into this place, and then they all jump on and head to the ship. The FBI get there, and they're like, "We need to secure the scene." The- What scene? the cruise director, or the c- the people cleaning the rooms are like, "What do you mean?" Yeah. And they're like, "The balcony and the bedroom, and the last time she was seen, and any kind of movement since." And they're like, "Yeah, we've cleaned it. We clean all the rooms- Yeah every day." They didn't think not to. And they're like, "The room of the fucking missing person." And they're like- Yeah. Why wouldn't I clean it? I don't understand. And they're like, "Do you not understand that this is a big deal? You've still not found her. It's been a fucking day now." Yeah. "Where's the concern?" The ship's big, but it ain't that fucking big. Also, this is when people on the ship are literally starting to talk because they're like, "The fucking FBI is here." Yeah. Apparently there was a missing girl yesterday. We don't know if she's been found. Now the FBI is here. Something's going on. Put two and two together, Janet. Yeah. They she obviously has not been found. I think as well the nextdoor neighbors are like, "Oh my God." Yeah. "Have you heard this?" Psst psst. And then it's gonna spread- If I was on- to other people a cruise and someone went missing, and I literally would be I wouldn't be able to think or deal with anything else. I know. I just wouldn't be able to focus on holiday. I know. The second I heard that rumor, I'd be like, "Get me off here." Get me off this fucking ship. Yeah, absolutely terrifying. I'd never be on there anyway. Yeah, so if there was any evidence in that room at all- Gone gone. Apparently, the fucking table on the balcony had been moved. The shoes had been moved. Everything had been moved. Everything had been cleaned. The beds had been turned over, whatever. It was, it was- almost felt- When was this again? '98. It almost felt purposeful. But I know it's not necess- I'm not saying it definitely is, because at the end of the day, it might have just been that the cleaner was just getting up and being like, "Why is that family screaming? Anyway, they've all left. I'll clean the room." Yeah. But it means that the- But it was like, you moved the fucking table outside cruise directors are not communicating with the people on the level saying, like- Listen "This be like-" No one go to that room. "We're not doing anything about this." "But just letting you know, do not go to that room." Yeah. The police are gonna be on board if this continues, so we should just preserve it as it is." Yeah. Her shoes apparently- That poor family must've been sleeping in there, right? I don't know. I th- I don't know if they'd been put somewhere else to like- Yeah I don't, just don't know, like- Yeah 'cause the room had been cleaned. I just don't know. They must have been having the fucking worst time. Yeah. Horrifying time. Imagine that day stuck on that fucking cruise ship. I know. Just thinking that she might- Terrible somehow walk round the corner at any second and just be like, "I was just chilling." Yeah, sorry. But also just thinking you might have left her in a fucking Caribbean island. Oh. Actually terrifying. Her shoes were placed neatly by the table and everything had been moved and tampered with basically. So they interview the family straightaway, and they try and get a timeline and get anything suspicious. They also check the key, electronic keycard records in and out of the cabin. But annoyingly, it So sh- they see her entering the room at 3:40 just after her brother But there was no record of people exiting because it's only when you're scanning into the room that it picks up the key card Yeah, so like when you press the button- So they never- to release the door know- You won't be able to know whether she left- You don't know if she came back via balcony or she left via- Yeah door. Yeah. Which is so infuriating- Yeah because it's like you just need your key card to get back in. If you if it did, if you- If someone else had entered the room or anything else- But also, if you did have to, if you did do that to leave the room, then you would know she had to go over the balcony. Exactly. I mean- Exactly that's, that would be it, like- exactly regardless of what it is. No one else came in. She went over the balcony and you'd be like- And if it literally worked that way round as well- Yeah they would have any form of answer. Yeah. Because they have n- like- Just something nothing. Yeah. So it doesn't pick it up. There's no cameras in the corridor. The cameras are only in built-up areas like the big lounge- Yeah and each deck and maybe the restaurants and stuff like that. But just going up and down all the corridors- Yeah, 'cause why would you need cameras in corridors? Nothing happens there. I know, literally. All the corridors are, like, identical, aren't they? We're like, "Oh, it'd just be too much." Obviously, put cameras on the big ballrooms where lots of people are. It's fucking ridiculous. Yeah, so the, the parents in the doc are, like, it did feel like they were very much being like, "What did you do?" "When was the last time you saw her?" and stuff. They were like, "It did feel targeted." I was like, "But also, at the same time, it's like you're all they've got right now." Yeah. It kinda has to be to begin with at least, doesn't it? Yeah, and it never really gets pinned on any of them. It's just like- Yeah what their story is what it- that's all they have. Yeah, exactly. It's just like they're going over it, and they said it did feel like maybe they were trying to say "What have you done- With her with her?" But I think afterwards they were just like, let's start asking the neighbors if they heard anything weird because we don't know." So this is where they start interviewing the neighbors. Wayne Brytag, who... He was staying by himself next door to the Bradleys. Iva, the mum, says that he was a weird guy who used to talk to Amy over the balcony. He is a weird guy Don't By the sound of the cruise, I would guess that you're weird. Yeah he is "I'm just an introvert." "I don't bring girlfriends on the cruise. I just like to go on a cruise on my own." And I was like, such a random choice of holiday as well. It's just weird. It's such a s- a social- It's social thing, a cruise. Yeah. It's like older people going to watch the comedy nights and go to the dance and just- And make friends, 'cause you're stuck on a ship with the same people if there's too little of you on a formal table as well, if your party is just two people, they'll put you on a table with someone else. That's like going to an orgy and saying, "I don't party." "I just have sex." That doesn't make any sense. What do you mean, you're an introvert? Yeah. On a cruise? And let me just tell you what this guy gets up to. He told Amy that he'd seen Am- He told the police that he had seen Amy the night before around 2:00 AM in the club. By himself. That's hateful. He- Don't go to the club by yourself. That's weird antics. I know. I just- And I know if you're on a cruise on your own, like I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to go to the club, but don't go on a cruise on your own. I know, and like it just seems like he just I don't know if there's anything to like, anything of value in him being a weird person, but he just is- A weird person a weird person. And he also then says afterwards "Yeah, just sometimes would get home from having a dance, having a drink, and then just sit on my balcony till 4:00 AM." Don't tell people that. And I just thought- How about we have some inside thoughts- I know and we keep some things to ourselves I just was like, I don't understand, because they're literally asking if anyone saw anything at 5:00 AM, and you're saying, "I actually really like to sit on my balcony," that's attached to their balcony. Literally next to her. Literally saying, "I saw her at 2:00 AM at the club." Everyone knows in that cabin that she was out there till at least 5:50 in the morning. And you're like- 5:30, sorry "Sometimes I just sit on my balcony for, on my own until 4:30 in the morning." Yeah, and it's so were you talking to her? And also, personally- Yeah I'd like to say I, as I said, at an afters I would've been sat up till God knows what time. Yeah. But like on my own, I probably wouldn't be sat on a balcony- Yeah until 5:00 in the morning. If I was chatting with someone- Yeah across the balcony who was on the other one- then maybe I would be sat out there until that time in the morning. Exactly. And it's interesting that so there's like a divider. Yeah. But he would like lean over- Yeah to talk to her. Yeah. So they would've had to have been like leaning. Yeah. So she couldn't have been lying down where the dad saw her- Yeah talking to him. Chatting, unless he could see him. Why is it creeping me out? Unless the dad could also see him- See him round the divider leaning over- okay and like talking to her. So they can't have been talking at that late hour. Time, yeah. But that could've been why she originally stayed out there, just for a chin wag with him. Yeah. And then maybe he was like- Sat down, had a cig. Yeah, I don't really know. Strange. I c- just couldn't tell you what happened here, okay? Don't like it. I know. Don't trust him. It creeps me the fuck out. But he's just a weird guy. He also said that he knew that Amy was a good athlete and that she had just graduated, so they had definitely had a few conversations before- because that is true. Yeah. And no one else had told him that. He does say that night he was back by 3:00 AM and he didn't hear anything suspicious at all. And I think even though he is a strange dude him being like, "Yeah, sometimes I just sit out there till 3:00, 4:00, 5:00 AM," it feels like he's a weird dude, but he doesn't really feel like he's lying because why would you even... I don't know, some people just like to get themselves involved, don't they? They do. They really do. But there just doesn't seem anything of value. Okay. However, his neighbors next to him on the other side did say that he was being really weird the night after she went missing, playing really loud music and talking to himself or someone. But the police searched his cabin high and low- Found nothing after he said this weird stuff. And Iva also, the, the mom said he was talking to her and we thought he was weird. But she was just "Ah, weirdo," and then just went off. But still over a day later. What? Because the police weren't on the cruise- yeah until over a day later. No sorry. This is when they're, yeah, interviewing him. Yeah. But Iva then says, "Oh, he was speaking to Amy a few days ago." Yeah. "And he was giving me weird vibes." So they searched the shit out of his cabin. But that's what I mean but when they would've searched would've been over- After a day later. Yeah, after he was seen playing loud music and stuff. Yeah. Like- I'm not saying he did it. I'm just saying, like- There's a lot of time it's a lot of time. And someone's cleaning- It's a lot of time your fucking room every single day, and probably not... clearly everyone that works on this fucking cruise- And if you're... Obviously you c- came away from that, the Curacao port, and they were saying the tide brings in bodies and stuff. But if he had her or her body in the room at that point, Ah, yes, no, you were saying that they did search the room. They did a search. Yeah. It's weird, isn't it? Maybe not. Maybe not. It's weird. Maybe not. Because they did a full search of everywhere. Yeah. Every cabin. So unless he was- Even if someone was in it? Yeah, they did a full- yeah search of the whole place. Yeah. Which is how the kind of rumor starts- Maybe not spreading. Unless somehow he was somewhere else with her 'cause there's some theories later on about how she was potentially put in a suitcase. Oh, God, I hate that. Yes. Either alive or dead. Yeah, it makes me think of you ever hear about that story that the woman was being a dick to her partner and she she got him to get in a suitcase or something. And then she closed it, and then he was, like, shouting saying, "Please let me out. I'm suffocating. I'm suffocating." And then she never did. And he died in there Horrifying Yeah, fucking horrible Yeah, that is my worst nightmare, being squished in somewhere like that Yeah. Yeah, so there's the... he could've... No one's keeping tabs on where he is straight off the bat- Yeah that whole corridor isn't in lockdown, yeah. They're letting people run about willy fucking nilly for the whole day. He could have got off the ship with her. Ugh. Do you know what I mean? Yeah it is so poorly run. She could be in Curacao. Yeah. She could be fucking anywhere. Yeah And that is what is so scary, is that in a sense you think that you're locked in on this cruise ship with all of these other people and you're being monitored, but really you're just out in the middle of the ocean with no rules and no security. You don't watch Always Sunny, do you? And he's like- Yeah, I have seen- and she, he's like taking her out to the middle of the ocean, "It's the implication." It's the implication. It's the implication. Yeah, exactly. It's- it is terrifying. So he is a weird guy, but they didn't find anything. Yeah. However, like you say, everything's taking a million years to get sorted anyway. Yeah. You can dispose of a lot. All I can say is I don't trust him. And there could've been something really important like fingerprints or something that the fucking maid cleaned up- Yeah because no one was locking down that fucking corridor. Yeah. Yes. So another passenger came forward when he saw a missing poster. They started making these flyers, and they were putting them under every single person's door- Yeah because they were like, "This is a huge-ass ship. It's like its own village, and there might be someone that's missed something here somehow." Yeah. And they're trying to be like, "Everyone, so everyone's on the same page, this is the girl that's missing. If you saw anything last night, come hit us up." Yeah. And this person comes forward, and he said... I can't, I don't think I made a note of his name. I just didn't care. Yeah. Fair. 'Cause he was someone else that I was just like, "Shu..." Although he was actually fine. I liked this guy. Okay. But the previous guy- Not so sure about yeah, was creepy, which is why I wrote his name down, yeah. So this guy said that he'd gone out taping for the cruise. He was d- doing loads of videography and stuff- Okay and taping stuff- Yeah for his fun vids. For ads and shit. And he's gone on this cruise specifically to make a really good video and stuff, and he sees this missing poster of Amy- That's a normal reason to go on a cruise alone. Yeah. Exactly. Very normal reason. Yeah. He's just "I'm a little videographer." "I'm doing a job." Yeah. "I'm here for the job. I'm also gonna get some sun." "And have a good time." Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Just some peace, but also getting some edits, getting some clips in. He is "I recognize her." Can't remember where from. So he goes through every single- Good chap Thanks for coming forward. He goes through every single bit of clip that he- Love that which also in '98, like it's- Yeah not like he's just he's just re-watching- Not using AI for face recognition either yeah, literally he's re-watching all of this film trying to find a clip of her, and he manages to find a video of her from the night before, and he finds a clip of her dancing with a guy that he knows is, goes by Yellow is his name. Yellow was the nickname for the bass player- Ah that was in- Here he comes yeah, in the Big Fun Caribbean Band. Yeah. There is two separate videos of them dancing. One of them, like the later on one, does look like they're doing a bit of a bump and grind type thing. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And it looks like they're getting close. Yellow's real name was Alistair Douglas. Remember- I just have to tell you, this book that I'm reading at the moment, like I'm reading the Off Campus books, and I'm on book three. And the... I literally read this today. One of the things he said is "I'm just gonna she was like, "Do you know how to dance?" And he was like, "Yeah, I'm just gonna do the stag." And she's like- "What's the stag?" And he was like, "The only dance move that anyone needs," and then he said, "Stand and grind." Oh. That's disgusting. It's gross, yeah. Sorry, I just- This is like the Bruno Mars song that's "What good is beauty if the booty-" Booty. can't take the beat?" Yeah. That's just like such a misogynistic line- Yeah but it slaps so hard. Yes, anyway. Sorry. Yeah, so Alistair Douglas, so keep that name in your brain. I've got it. So anoth- Who is he? Yellow. Yellow. Sorry, I forgot already. The bass player. Alistair Douglas. Yeah. It's here. Yeah. You can just remember Yellow if you want. It's- No I also- Alistair apparently that nickname is his nickname because when he had hair, is what one guy says in the doc- he dyed it yellow, and that's it. I was like- I'm not sure. I'm not sure how I feel about that wow. Is his mum Black? Yeah. Why did he dye it yellow? I don't know. And I was like, please someone show me a photo of him with yellow hair. Yeah. And then they didn't, and I was like, "Okay." Okay, yeah. That would be quite prominent, to be fair. Yellow hair. Yeah. That's fair enough, it sticks. He's "I wanna murder, but this is probably a good place- Yellow so I'm just gonna get rid of that." Yeah. Yeah, Yep. That's it. 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