Commission Six Eight
Covering today's politics and current events through the lens of history and the Bible.
Commission Six Eight
Borders, Facts, And Faith
The noise around immigration is loud, but the truth gets clearer when you sit with someone who lived the process. We invited first-generation entrepreneur Daniel Kwak to unpack the human side behind the numbers: the attorney visits, the courtroom nerves, and the long wait that ends with a right hand raised. From a childhood in a cramped “Class D” apartment to building a business and mentoring others, Daniel’s story grounds a volatile topic in lived reality.
We dig into deportation statistics across administrations and why topline comparisons mislead without context. Daniel explains how media incentives thrive on rage bait—short clips of ICE arrests, dramatic framing, and outrage that spreads faster than facts. With Chicago’s ICE protests as a backdrop, we explore the pressure on law enforcement, the rise of stand down orders, and how political leadership shapes the risks officers face. Through Daniel’s faith-centered lens, we talk about how lies breed isolation and fear, and how that fear licenses violence in crowds that might otherwise choose restraint.
The conversation turns to what makes someone “American.” A judge’s words still echo for Daniel: many countries never fully embrace outsiders, but America can if law and identity hold. We lay out why strong, fair immigration systems protect opportunity for everyone—immigrants and citizens alike—by pairing humane pathways with clear, consistent enforcement. That balance guards wage floors, relieves pressure on schools and services, and keeps social trust intact. It also honors those who follow the rules, invest in communities, and contribute across generations.
If you’re tired of soundbites and ready for a grounded, honest take, this episode offers a lens that blends data, experience, and conviction. Listen, share with a friend who cares about the border and belonging, and tell us where you think policy can be both compassionate and coherent. If you find value here, follow the show, leave a quick review, and join the conversation—we read every note.
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SPEAKER_02:It is Wednesday, November 26th in the greatest country on earth. I'm your host, Rain Ballett, and this is Commission 68. Today we have a very special guest, Daniel Clock, joins the show to talk about Trump's deportation policies and the dangers of unchecked mass illegal immigration. Let's go! Alright, now as a special guest today, we have uh someone very dear to me, a very close friend and mentor of mine, uh Mr. Daniel Quok. Like he as he likes to say, one half of the Quok brothers. Welcome to the show, brother.
SPEAKER_04:Thank you, man. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you for being here. And uh I'm gonna let you do your intro. Uh tell us about who you are. But first I want to tell a story because I'm part of Daniel's uh real estate investment mentorship program, and he had uh an event in Chicago about two weeks ago. We were up there for the weekend in Chicago. So we booked the I booked the plane ticket, you know, we stayed uh at the hotel. It was in Naperville, I believe. So my wife asked me if I was gonna rent a car to come down, uh to go from the airport to the hotel, but we looked at the forecast and there was a chance of winter remix, and I was like, Randy doesn't drive in wintery mix. And then lo and behold, we wake up Sunday morning when it's time to go back to the airport, and there's this mysterious white stuff all over the ground. Yeah. So Randy, Randy doesn't do that. But regardless, uh, it was an excellent event. Thanks for having us. I always love getting to see you in person. So just tell us a little bit about who you are.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I mean, I'm a I'm a guy that is surrounded by that white stuff all the time, right? Living in Chicago. I don't know how you do it. Listen, man, I actually don't mind it. Like when I when I I love it when it's like minus 18, minus 20, because I just go out for a run. Like it's it's fantastic. It unlocks some. I think a lot of guys have that, where it's like it just unlocks something primal or you know, it's something instinctual. But yeah, I'm my name is Daniel Quak. Obviously, first and foremost, I'm a follower of Christ. Uh I'm a first generation immigrant, like you mentioned. I'm an entrepreneur, husband, father. Um, you know, all the things that I guess you're supposed to do in life. Um, but you know, for me, like I I love just waking up every single day and just doing what God asked me to do, man. That's that's kind of my mantra.
SPEAKER_02:Amen. That's great. And I'm gonna elaborate a little bit because I I know you. So real estate investor, and he has a he's an author. He has a book. This book actually changed my life when I read this book. Uh he was kind enough to do the forward on my book, uh, actually. And the name of your book is Zero to 75 Units in One Year. Available where?
SPEAKER_04:Oh, just go on zero, go to zero to seventy-fiveunits.com. Uh, you can get it for free. I always tell people, listen, you could buy it on Amazon or you could just get it for free. Right. I would get it for free.
SPEAKER_02:That's part of the story. I actually bought it before I realized I could get it for free. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Best 20 bucks I ever spent, right? Um, so real estate investor, entrepreneur, author, and first generation immigrant. So let's dig into that. Tell us about how you got here, where you came from, your family.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. So our our family, we were originally from South Korea, and uh, you know, we came here in the 90s, and man, I got I gotta share this story because it's so cool. So when I when I was a little kid in in Korea, like I loved basketball. Like basketball was like, I loved watching it. Like the I thought the Korean basketball league, I thought those guys were like the best players, and you know, like their center is like 6'3, right? But uh what drew me to it is I had a cousin who's about maybe 10 years, 15 years older than I am. Um, and he played on on a high school team, right? So I was like four or five years old at the time, and you know, my cousin's obviously, you know, a little over 10 years older. And you know, we would always go watch his games, and and in our house in Korea, you know, we had like the little you know, Fitcher of Price hoop or whatever thing that you could, you know, shoot the the little ball into. And um, and so when when we came here, one of the big concerns I have was like, oh man, like do they have basketball? Right? Like, is this is this the end? Like, is this only a Korea thing? And like the flight to get here is like 14 hours, right? And you know, we get off this is airport, uh, O'Hare Airport in Chicago, and you know, this is like the 90s, and this is where the gates in O'Hare used to have these like big box TVs in the corner, and you know, like nowadays everyone's just on their phone, right? But back then, it was you either watch the TV or you're reading a newspaper or magazine, there's just one of those two. And so we get off, and I still I remember it was like nighttime, it was like eight, nine o'clock, and I look up at the TV and I see basketball, and I'm like super excited. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be great. Like, but the guy, the guy, so there was a guy who had the basketball in his hand, right? And he was black, and I was like, I've never seen a black person before in my life, right? Because I grew up Korean, and I was like, wow, his skin, his skin is black, like that's really cool. And he does this thing where he has the ball, his back is to the basket, and he, you know, does this jump, he jumps, but then he shoots the ball while he's mid-air. And I had never seen a basketball player or a human being do anything like that, right? Because for me, my exposure was Korean basketball, right? Korean guys like our verticals like two inches, right? And so uh this guy, so this guy, this random black guy, is you know, he's shooting it mid-air, and he's and I'm like, wow, man, that's a really cool move. And I I told myself, I was like, that's gonna be my favorite player from now on, because it's the first player I've seen in my new country. And you know, he wore number 23, played for the Chicago Black.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, your favorite player and everybody else in the U.S.
SPEAKER_04:That's right. And ended up being, you know, the GOAT, right? Michael Jordan. And so that that's kind of the my first exposure to the United States, and I was like, man, maybe this place is pretty cool, you know? And then uh immigrated here, and we grew up super poor, right? Like our first apartment we came, you know, we had in the United States as a family. Like it was one of those where you turned the lights on and the cockroaches, you know, expand to the outwards of the room. Uh, our rent, I still remember, was$380 per month. And we lived in this, you know, Class D, just very, you know, not well taken care of. Our landlords were were slumlords pretty much. Yeah. Uh, and we, you know, we got robbed multiple times while we were there. But yeah, man, late late 90s, city of Chicago, you know, family of four from South Korea.
SPEAKER_02:So tell us what you mean. You said class D, Class D apartments. I know you're a real estate guy. What do you mean by that?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so so class A is like super high-end luxury, right? You have pools, you know, you have a gym, there's amenities, right? And then all the way down to Class D is, you know, if I'm gonna use the word ghetto, right? Like that's that's what Class D pretty much was.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so Michael Jordan quickly became your favorite player. You just called him the GOAT. I think we might get a little hate email from the goat from the LeBron fans there.
SPEAKER_04:Bring it on, man. Bring it on.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, I like it. All right, so we're uh the topic of the show, uh, we're gonna do immigration. There's been a lot of talk on the news, obviously, in this uh second Trump administration, a lot of people coming out against his immigration policies, or I should say deportation policies. And I'm gonna read you off some stats. I pulled this from DHS. According to the DHS website, uh President under the President Trump administration since January, they said 1.6 million people have self-deported and they have over 500,000, actually 527,000 deportations since January. Um But I I want to point out that the media is actually uh saying that those numbers are inflated and they're not as those numbers aren't as high as the administration or DHS claims that they are. But I looked up previous administrations and under Obama we had his average was 942 deportations a day. Uh Trump's first term was only it was 680 to 800 per day, depending on the time of the year. During Biden, it was 742 a day, and now during Trump's second term, he's up to 878 today, but still not surpassing uh Obama's presidency. So my question is, and these sources come from TRAC, NBC, uh Migration Policy Institute. So why do you think that the liberal media on one hand is saying that Trump's inflating the numbers, but then in the exact same sentence, we hear him saying, you know, he's Hitler and it's horrible and and he's and he's committing atrocities.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I mean that that that's a great question, man. And you know, you you touched on a topic that's very obviously near and dear to my heart, right? Um and not only near and dear to my heart, but obviously, you know, my brother Sam, who you know, and then you know my own parents, right? And and we were certainly massive benefactors of of eventually earning you know our citizenship here in the United States, you know. Right. Um Trump, you know, Trump's a really interesting guy, you know, and I think at this point, especially when it comes to the media, right? And the media and and even the topic of Donald Trump is something that I've covered for years now, even on my own YouTube channel or different podcasts. And you know, he's kind of one of those guys where it's like if you want views, mention his name. Right. And yeah, even our YouTube videos, like some of the best YouTube videos that we've done, it usually has a picture of him on the thumbnail or has his name on the title or whatever it may be.
SPEAKER_02:No such thing as bad publicity, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's right. And you know what? First and foremost, you gotta hand it to the guy. He he's an amazing marketer, right? I mean, he's an incredible marketer, regardless of whether or not you disagree with him or agree with him, you're gonna talk about him, right? And so I I think a lot of times the media, especially the liberal media, loves to bring up the topic of immigration because they're now opening the door to use footage and to use no pun intended media of people being dragged out of their cars or people being, you know, um, or taken away from their families, or you know, somebody's at work and you know, you see ice agents coming, and you know, and more oftentimes than not, the the photos and the images, the videos that they use is rather extreme.
SPEAKER_02:And it doesn't tell the whole story.
SPEAKER_04:And it doesn't tell the whole story.
SPEAKER_02:It's a five-second clip of yeah.
SPEAKER_04:That's right. Yeah, that's right. And which which we you know, hopefully in 2025, we're all we're all smart enough to know that that media and and images, videos, they're incredibly easy to manipulate, right? Um now, am I saying that what they're doing is is appropriate, the way they're going about it? No, right? But at the same time, to your point, you know, we we don't know the full story. I I can tell you as an immigrant uh myself who's who's didn't get a citizenship until he was 20 years old, after 14 years of being in the country, right? Like I went to elementary school, middle school, high school, right? I mean, I played sports, you know, and I was, I mean, at 20, I was on two fantasy football leagues, which I don't know if you can get more American than that. Right? Um, so so I mean, but you know, it was it was funny. Like I had to earn my sin. So as a guy that had to go through all that, and and not only that, but while Obama was president, almost got deported, right? Like as a guy who had to go through that, you know, I mean, it makes me incredibly sad. I think above anything else, the amount of ignorance that is being instigated when it comes to the topic of immigration. Um, and and you know, I mean, I know the media sometimes can be an easy punching back, but let's be real, right? Like that's the they are the primary instigators of ignorance when it comes to this particular topic, not just with Donald Trump.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Why why do you think that is?
SPEAKER_04:I I think at the end of the day, it's all about I mean, you know, I'm I'm only 31 years old, right? I'm an incredibly young guy, but you know, the the Lord's blessed me with so many different experiences and allowed me to have been in so many different circles. And, you know, when I think about people who are outside of the kingdom of God, right? When I think about people that are outside of the loving arms of Jesus, um it's all about the money.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It's all about the money. And when you think about media, right, like it's and it's crazy, and I'll and I'll this is proof. Like if you're on social media, the best and the highest way to get engagement is this thing called rage bait, where you put something out on a reel, a TikTok or a short or something where it it makes people angry to the point where they'll comment or they'll share it saying, like, look how dumb this is, or I can't. But that's the way that people are gaining a following. And as we all know, in 2025, the more eyeballs that you have, the more money that you make. Right.
SPEAKER_02:Because because the the viewer is now uh the asset, the viewer is now the what's being sold.
SPEAKER_04:That's right. And and you know what, from a traditional media standpoint, right, they're getting desperate because they're realizing that they're being outdone by the guys like Joe Rogan, by the Tucker Carlsons of the world, by the Candace Owens of the world, and and even on the other end, right? I mean, uh people who represent, who have their own independent platforms that represent the other perspective, it's it's those guys too. And and you know, platforms like Fox, CNN, right? I mean, these guys are slowly realizing, uh oh, we don't we don't have as tight of a grip on journalism, on sharing information, on eyeballs like we used to do 20 years ago. And people are real, and they're realizing, man, people are turning more to YouTube, Spotify, right? Even obviously, even your your independent podcast. People are realizing that. And so what they had to do, because when people start getting fearful, it's usually when they start losing that dinero, right? Is they start getting more and more extreme on what they have to talk about because now they realize they're competing against these other guys.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Competing, competing against people that don't have the censorship, that don't have uh the machine behind them, right? And and you hit on something really good. The the media, the liberal media, or really just mainstream, right? The mainstream media, it's it's been a machine and it's been trusted. And I I feel like they've they've lost America's trust, right? Trust is it's hard earned, but it's easily lost. And once you lose America's trust, like you said, they have to get more and more extreme and they have to start um they have to start basically, I don't want to say making things up, but uh twisting facts, twisting truths, uh to to push an agenda just to get eyeballs in front of the screen. Because like you said, with the the lack of censorship with independent independent podcasters, the Joe Rogans, people like that, um people are searching for truth, you know? This generation is searching for truth. I think that's a theme in America. There's so much, and I hate using the word disinformation because it's so loaded, right? But people are really searching for truth, and it it's it's a void that's currently in the mainstream right now.
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SPEAKER_02:I I'm gonna go on to my producer sent me a bunch of stuff. Now I know that you're in Chicago, the Chicagoland area. Um, and I have a lot of clips here from ICE protesting outside the facility, right? That's still going on. I saw it on the news this morning. It's Friday, so they're all lining up to protest. And uh some of these protests have become violent. And well, first let me get your opinion on that. Just what have you seen from from being local, from being to the area? Because we see the national news, but go ahead and wait.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, for for a lot of those people that are seeing these protests for the first time, especially especially in the city of Chicago, trust me, it's been happening for a while, right? It's just regardless, it's just a matter of what they are protesting this time, you know. Um, and you people are saying there's violence because of these protests. Listen, in the city of Chicago, there's always been violence.
SPEAKER_02:Sure. Yeah, well, I'm from New Orleans. It's it we fight for the record every year. So that's right.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's right. Yeah, my city and your city, man. We're you know, we're competing not just in football, but you know, also in city violence, I guess, you know. So, you know, there's there's always been violence. It's just a matter of what violence and what protests are actually going to be reported, right? Right, and and actually shown on the TV screen, you know. So, I mean, first thing that I'll say is, you know, for me, obviously as a follower of Jesus, it makes me incredibly sad that the amount of fear and ignorance has has been escalated to the point where people are willing to be physical. So from a spiritual standpoint, you know, there's no one that celebrates division, physical violence as a result of that more than the enemy.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely. The author of author of confusion.
SPEAKER_04:That's right. You know, in fact, it the scripture says, right, he's he's the author of lies. Well, what is what do lies ultimately create? It creates separation. Whether it's separation from us and God, whether it's separation from one another, um, that's what the enemy wants. They they want people to be isolated because in isolation is where ignorance grows. And oftentimes when people don't disagree and they don't debate and they don't talk, well, a lot of times that's when that isolation continues to be accelerated and it gains momentum to the point where the only community that people are now experiencing in 2025 is within a protest. And when people experience that and it's within a protest, and now it's the social normal thing to then get violent, people that you would never thought in a million years would throw a brick or spit on the face of a law enforcement officer, start doing way more than even that.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_04:So, you know, for for me as a follower of Christ, who I believe am called to share in the heart of the Father, it makes me incredibly sad. Because not only is it coming from a spiritual and emotional standpoint, but there's the other end of it where it's the intellectual standpoint. Because whether I'm in Chicago or San Francisco, wherever, you go to these protests and you try talking sense or even try having a normal, sensible, intellectual conversation with these individuals, it doesn't go very well. It doesn't very it doesn't go very well at all. In fact, within 10 seconds, they're screaming. Right. And there's there's all sorts of gibberish. Or there's they don't want to admit that they're wrong, so they'll go, oh hey, I have to go. Right? Or like, oh, I don't have time for this. I have to I have to go, I have to go. And so, you know, there's there's always been violence in Chicago, there's always been protests in Chicago, but with this one, especially when it comes to ICE and immigration, it's it's sad because it seems to be there seems to be a higher level of intellectual, emotional, and spiritual ignorance that's tied to this particular issue compared to gang violence.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Yeah, no, I I absolutely agree. I think that there is a lot of ignorance, and I feel like it's it's it's a spiritual battle more than a physical battle, even more than an intellectual battle. Um, and what's disturbing, and like you said, we have protests here in New Orleans. Actually, of all the cities, I feel like New Orleans kind of sits most of the stuff out a little more. Maybe it's our culture and it's hot down here and we move a little bit slower compared to some of the other liberal cities that we see on the news all the time. Um what was disturbing about uh Chicago recently was did you hear did you hear the clip of the 911 dispatcher where the police were called to back up ICE and they actually had like a stand down order?
SPEAKER_04:Um no, no, no, I didn't hear about this one.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I have I have a clip here. Let's see, this is just audio. Yeah, so um, you know, not not picking on Chicago itself. We've we've had our problems with the New Orleans police commissioner here and obviously the attack um in New Year's, but they were actually when you see law enforcement, you know the cops want to help. That's why they're cops.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_02:Right? It doesn't matter what three letters they have on their vests, they want to help. But they're actually being being given orders uh by people who don't wear the gun, don't wear the badge, don't carry a gun to actually stand down. And that just goes on to what you were saying about a spiritual battle and an intellectual battle and and being fueled by fear.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and and you know, and like in many ways, like I I feel awful for our for our men and women of law enforcement, right? I mean, I I have the utmost respect for for them, for obviously anybody who chooses to protect and serve our our American society. Um but that's just sad, right? And and especially in Chicago, right, that I think is very different compared to other cities, is the is the leadership that we have in Chicago is is so incredibly biased towards one way. And that one way, unfortunately, is not supportive of law enforcement. Right. And so, you know, if I'm a law enforcement officer in Chicago, it's like, okay, not only do I want the potential of me being the next Derek Chauvin, right? But there's also this element of, well, even if I make one little small mistake or slip up, I know that the leadership that's behind our funding, that's behind our infrastructure, is not gonna be anywhere near supportive of what we try to do at the end of the day. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, it's incredibly, incredibly sad that not only that infrastructure and support isn't there, but it's actually telling them to not do their job.
SPEAKER_02:Right. It's actually fighting against and you also um have the possibility of being victim of the 10-second clip taken out of context that gets played all over the world. Um and then judgment by media.
SPEAKER_04:Yep, that's right.
SPEAKER_02:But so you said something a moment ago about we were talking about when you came to the US and as you're an immigrant family and you were facing deportation under Obama. Tell us a little more about that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, man. I mean, this was 2000. Yeah, I mean, I think this was 2008, 2009, some sometime around there. I mean, I I I remember around this time, yeah, I think I was like 13, 14, 15 years old, some somewhere around there. And uh, you know, there was a point where our family for about a year, year and a half, during that time frame, I mean, we were in downtown Chicago specifically to visit with our immigration attorney probably five or six different times. And, you know, it's like thankfully it it ended it ended that there's a happy ending to the story, right? Where, you know, uh four or five years after that incident, you know, I'm I'm standing with a group of people in front of a judge, literally, you know, being sworn in as a citizen, yeah. Uh, which was absolutely incredible. There's a great story I had to share about that, and I'll share in a moment. But uh, yeah, I remember being a kid, man. I was a freshman in high school, and and I had to be pulled out. I had to be my parents had to pull me out because we had to drive all the way to downtown Chicago with our immigration attorney. We had to be there all day from like 9 a.m. pretty much till like four or five p.m. Um and and I remember Sam and I, my brother being sat down, and and the immigration attorney, I still remember his name, Kevin Dixler. Man, God bless his soul, man.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:He he had to sit us down in front of my parents and go, hey, there's a real possibility that uh you guys might be able to stay, but then your parents would be deported. Now, you know, my my parents did everything the legit way. Our family has always done things um the right way. Right. Right. And you know, the way my parents and I and I got here, our family is we we came here, I believe, on a travel visa, and then before that visa expired, we applied for permanent residency. Um, and then when we applied for permanent residency, obviously we we went through the process of getting our green card and then eventually our citizenship papers, right? Uh and something happened from what I remember, right? Like I there wasn't a whole lot that was explained to me by the attorney. Um I I would love to call that guy up and be like, hey man, what what I I know it was 15 years ago, yeah, but what happened back then, right?
SPEAKER_03:He's probably busy these days. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I was gonna say, I mean, I hope he is, man, because he was he was a great guy, you know, and and he he knew the law incredibly well. But you know, something got mixed up with the paperwork, right? And funny enough, my my dad, when Obama was a senator uh in the state of Illinois, actually wrote Obama a letter and he got a response back pretty much saying, Hey, can't help you, right? Like, good luck. Um and so, you know, what so when he became president, right? Um, you know, my my dad had a really funny way of thinking about it. It was like, oh, well, he's a minority, so surely his immigration policies were should should be pretty fair, right? And and and should reward um, you know, people like us, right? Who's doing everything the right way. And and unfortunately it didn't end up that way, right? Where we we ended up doing everything the right way. It costed our our family, which we didn't have any money, right? Like it costed us thousands of dollars, a lot of time, a lot of headache. Um, and and we had to go before a judge, right? So, I mean, literally, I remember the the trip to Chicago after the attorney sat my brother and I down and explained that there was a real possibility that that only he and I were were being allowed to stay under student visas. Um the trip after that, we had to we had to go in front of in front of a judge, right? And we had to we had to answer questions. And man, you want to talk about nervous, right? Like yeah, man, I was so nervous as a 13, 14-year-old and and you know, in front of a crowd, in front of a judge. And you know, the only the only my only experience, by the way, uh with anything courtroom was like divorce court. It was on like, you know, or like judge Judy, right? Like one of those like funny where the guy's not paying alimony or child support and they're like arguing back and forth, and you know, um, and so like I remember um like she would ask like the judge was a woman, she would ask me my name, and I'd be like, Your Honor, my name is Daniel Qualk, Your Honor. And then like I would just like keep repeating it because I was so nervous. Um, but then thank thankfully, like we were we were able to stay, it was a battle for us to just to be able to stay, right? And uh, you know, obviously that that led us to to getting our citizenship, and but but yeah, it was to your point, you're right. It was it was under the Obama administration that that our family uh almost got deported, right? So like for me, when I when I see stuff like and and look, like I'm I'm of the camp of hey, like if if you if you're not a criminal, right, if you're if you work hard and you're contributing to society, um I I believe that yes, you should you should get your citizenship, but you know, I also believe at the same time, like, hey, as long as you're on the path to citizenship, like you won't, like we're not gonna deport you. As long as you're working or you're contributing to society and you're working on getting your citizenship, right? Right, and you're staying here and you're here and abiding the law, right? Um, but you know, for me, I I scratch my head a little bit, Randy, because I'm seeing all these people online on social media trashing ICE, trashing Trump, trashing all this stuff, right? And you know, I'm an individual that had to work incredibly hard to to earn my citizenship to be here. Um and not only that, but but really understands and values why the system and the structure is what it is. And I'm not saying it's perfect, but I I understand at a very, very deep level why things are the way they are, right? Um and so yeah, I mean I I scratch my head a little bit. Like I I don't I don't understand, right? Like, do I do I believe families should be ripped apart? No. Like, you know, what would would it have sucked if my parents were sent back to Korea and Sam and I were the only ones here? Absolutely, but at on the at the same breath, I also know we did everything legally and and we didn't do anything wrong, therefore it resulted in us earning our citizenship and obviously thriving um today, right? So uh I remember when I got my citizenship, there was a judge, she said like the coolest thing in the world, and this was right before we got sworn in, right? So um she said something along the lines of like, I'm going off script, and uh you know, this is this is a personal story. I like to share. But if you go to Japan and you work hard and you contribute to society, you start a business, you create jobs, you do all these things, you will they will never see you as Japanese. Right? If you go to, you know, Argentina and you do the same thing, you work hard, you contribute, you make friends, you're a part of society, and you don't do anything wrong, you will st you will still never be seen as a true Argentinian. But then she goes, if you're here and you work hard and you're willing to abide by the law and you're willing to contribute to a society, we will always call you an American. And I'm like, man, that's so true. Because like even when I go back to Korea, right? Like you see, you see a white guy, he could have been born there. He could have he could be speaking better Korean than I do.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_04:But they'll never see him as one of their own. They'll never see him as a true Korean. They'll always say, oh, he's a white guy who lives in Korea. And you know, I've I've never been seen or told, oh, that's a that's a Korean guy that lives in the United States.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah. That's like, remember the guy, um, the black guy that plays basketball, he played in the Olympics um for Japan. He's Japanese.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah, Rui Hachimura.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like I I don't I don't follow basketball the way you do, but I'll see the Olympics and he he comes walking out with the Japanese team. I'm like, wait a minute.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, you know, I'm listening I'm all about immigration. I I believe immigrants have contributed greatly to society, but you know, there if it it doesn't take long, man, to figure out what the downsides and the consequences of unchecked illegal immigration becomes. Look at Europe, look at I mean, there's so many examples of that all around the world. And I don't, I don't think it's and you know, like this is not me pointing towards, you know, my my finger towards one group of people, but I I don't think that it's uh a coincidence that the countries oftentimes with the strongest immigration policies tend to have the most well-balanced economies per capita. They tend to have a higher happiness score amongst their citizens. And again, it's not it's not pointing towards that immigration that's bad, but usually if you have strict immigration, it usually means you have a system and structure of order within society, right? That there is a lot of logic and reasoning behind what these laws are, and not only that, but they are actually enforced.
SPEAKER_02:Right. All right, that was Daniel Quark of the Quark Brothers. Make sure you tune in next week because Daniel weighed in on the effects that illegal immigration is having on the economy and the housing market and what we can do to position ourselves for success in the future. And as always, I pray blessings over you and your family. I pray God blesses you coming in and going out. I pray peace, power, and prosperity. Remember that you live in the greatest country on earth, and it is up to you to keep it.