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Noahgenda #9 (The Off The Rails One)

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This week, Noah and Genda welcome their first guest to the show. He is far right leaning political activist, Chris Montgomery. The conversation takes almost 30 whole seconds before it becomes an absolute Donnybrook… Genda's favorite word.  

SPEAKER_03

Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of Noah Genda Podcast. I'm Noah. And as always, since the dawn of time, sitting across from me is my pal Genda.

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Today? You know what you're gonna call me today?

SPEAKER_03

What?

SPEAKER_05

Gabe Kaplan.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Welcome back.

SPEAKER_03

Welcome back. Yes, this is our first podcast of 2026.

SPEAKER_05

Haven't seen you for a bit. Haven't talked to you for a bit. It's been a while, yeah. It's been a minute or two. A lot's happened. I knew you were gonna say that. It's been a minute. When did that come to be a phrase?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. It's it's stupid, but I say it a lot, actually.

SPEAKER_05

You do. But a minute is it's so vague. I think it might be a minute. It could be a year, it could be a minute.

SPEAKER_03

It's did it's definitely something sort of like from the from the hip hop rap culture. That phrase that's where it that's where it or originated. Yeah. Really?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Did not know that. Yeah. Never thought of that.

SPEAKER_03

You never heard that. Yeah, it's it's definitely in within that realm. Yeah, it's been a minute.

SPEAKER_05

You've rapped. There you go. Yeah. You've raped before and I have rapped in movies. You've danced to rap in movies.

SPEAKER_03

I have rapped in film. Yeah, legendarily.

SPEAKER_05

I'm just thinking. I've never I didn't put that together that a minute. It's been a minute. Yeah. Is a a rap line.

SPEAKER_03

Don't get tangled up in it. I I think that's that that's my guess. I mean, uh, you know, we could chat GPT.

SPEAKER_05

The web has been woved. I'm in it. I'm in it. You're in the web. I'm tangled.

SPEAKER_03

So um so today's agenda, we have uh I've missed our podcasts. I've missed this time. You know, my family actually, I have my in-laws are in town and they're at the beach today.

SPEAKER_05

They're at the beach.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they're at the beach right now.

SPEAKER_05

And let's get a little perspective on today. It's January something, late January, Southern California, and it's 80 degrees now.

SPEAKER_03

It's it's that's where it's.

SPEAKER_05

For the rest of the country, it's not 80 degrees. Yeah, it's 80 below in some place.

SPEAKER_03

Uh yeah, uh were you saying are you a little too loud? Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_05

The vortex. Polar vortex. Yeah, I'm a little loud.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, let me turn this down and take a technical break. Hold on.

SPEAKER_05

Please hold. Welcome back. The dreams were your ticket. Yep. Well, John Sebastian. John Sebastian wrote that and saying that. Wait, do it again. Uh a little loud, a little loud. A little loud. A little too tall, could have used a few pants bobs in here. Hollering out. Yeah. Our audio visual guy. Take care of it.

SPEAKER_03

That's sad that it's me because I am technically inept. Little too tall, could have used a few pounds. Tight pants, points, hollering out. Hollering out. Were points what was that some sort of reference to the to the uh outline of the genitals in those tight genes? I mean, I'm guessing. Wow.

SPEAKER_05

I don't know. It could be. What else? What else could it be? As Manford Mann once said, wrapped up like a douche. But they didn't say douche. I still don't know what that means, wrapped up like a deuce.

SPEAKER_03

Well, another road. That has been debated uh in music circles ad infinitum, and I've never gotten to the bottom of it. Some people will say wait, what did you say?

SPEAKER_05

It's been debated what?

SPEAKER_03

In music circles? Then you said uh ad infinitum? Wow.

SPEAKER_05

Ad infinitum?

SPEAKER_03

Have you forgotten my vocabulary already, Jenna?

SPEAKER_05

It's a whole different year, yeah. I guess I've never even heard that term. Yeah. Say it again. Ad what?

SPEAKER_03

Infinitum.

SPEAKER_05

What's the difference between ad infinitum and ad nauseum?

SPEAKER_03

They're completely different.

SPEAKER_05

What's ad infinitum?

SPEAKER_03

Ad infinitum, as as the word would imply, infinity means forever. You know, ad infinitum. It goes on and on and on.

SPEAKER_05

You know how long it's been since I've been?

SPEAKER_03

Ad nauseum is how I'm starting to feel about this conversation.

SPEAKER_05

You know how long it's been since I've heard that term? A minute.

SPEAKER_03

Nice. Wow. So, Jenna, there's so much to talk about. So much to talk about. Um, there are things I don't know if you're aware of this, but there's a lot going on in the world right now.

SPEAKER_05

I haven't seen nothing. Nothing, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but uh so we can get to a lot of that. Um Lakers laid an egg last night. And uh but we do have a guest today. This is our first guest ever. Um, Jenda wanted to get somebody on the line that could, you know, speak from a more uh right-leaning political belief and asked, and I do know somebody who is very, very right-leaning. Um he's tipping over, I would say. And uh so he's gonna join us today, and I guess Jenda is gonna ask some questions or want to have a dialogue with him uh regarding some of the current state of affairs on the other side.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, a couple things with that. One, he obviously has not listened to no agenda because he's willing to come on with us, right?

SPEAKER_03

Correct.

SPEAKER_05

No chance. Um, two, gotta tell you, we might have to change the name of today's episode or today's our title. It's not no agenda. It's agenda. We have agenda. I finally get top billing. We've got agenda. We have agenda. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

No, I wanted to get a um We have agenda or we have agenda.

SPEAKER_05

A agenda. Thank you. Yeah, we can just get rid of the no. So we have uh. Uh. We have uh agenda. We have no uh uh. We have uh agenda. It's not no a. No a. No ah, no ah. All right, so um no, I've always you and I have discussed this a lot. Ad nauseum or ad infinite what was the word? Ad infinitum. Ad infinitum, you and I have discussed this. That I truly am uh curious as to why people do well, we've talked about people's habits, why they do stuff, why they say stuff, why they do things in public that seemingly are you know against the grain of of normality. Ad nausea. Um and the the political one, I th I think this this started with me when he when he so famously, as he says, went down the escalator. Yeah. 2014, I think, 2015.

SPEAKER_02

It's hard to believe it was that long.

SPEAKER_05

I was not political at all, at all. I really I did not know the difference between a Democrat and a Republican. I I swear to God. Seriously. Yeah. I was very non-political.

SPEAKER_03

That that recently, I mean, that's 10 years ago.

SPEAKER_05

No. It doesn't matter what I was registered, but I was registered as something only because I think my dad was. I think. And it doesn't matter what I was, so because it was irrelevant. I've always voted for what I feel to be the best, not even most qualified, but the best person. Right. So you can imagine my thoughts on Trump, obviously.

SPEAKER_03

Great person.

SPEAKER_05

And my wife's family. We might have spoken about this too. We have. Okay. All extremely successful people. Extremely and all avid, avid, devout part of the cult, we'll say. Part part of the the the Trump cult.

SPEAKER_03

The MAGA.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, they are, a hundred percent. Um and we've had way too many bad discussions about it that just go really badly. And it's interesting too. I have there's one person in the family that I can have really good conversations with, and he's MAGA, but he's a psychiatrist. The rest are radiologists. Uh what's the the I one? Ophthalmologists. There's an attorney in there. And the attorney and I, we beyond butt heads.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that's interesting because our guest today is an attorney. Yeah, he went to law school.

SPEAKER_05

That should go bad really quick.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he's he's not an attorney in California, but he he did go to law school and he's uh he's an attorney. I can't remember where he passed the bar, but he does a lot of different things, and he he's like a Fox News contributor. He appears on some of the lower level Fox things uh online or whatever, not like Fox News, but um I was gonna say, how can a psychologist how can a psychiatrist who who studies like human mental health support that?

SPEAKER_05

It's a great question.

SPEAKER_03

Like, how could one not see that this is a person who's uh lacking virtually every level of mental health?

SPEAKER_05

It's a great question. And usually the answer to that is that they'll they, being those maggots, they'll throw it back at you. Oh, you think Biden's better? You think Kamala is better? You think the answer is yes.

SPEAKER_03

To us, it's yes. They're all rational human beings. Yeah. Not perfect.

SPEAKER_05

But you know what? He will I and I don't wanna I don't want to say what he's gonna say, but it's somewhat it's some not obvious, but we kind of know what his answers might be. Yeah, yeah. And this honestly, this could go south really quick. We'll see. I hope it doesn't.

SPEAKER_03

Let's try to be civil and see if we can extract one's viewpoint and see if we can find let's see if we can find any any common point.

SPEAKER_05

That's what then that's the point. That that is actually the great point that you just said, because I'm always trying to find that. I really am. I I'm in search of let's just agree on something. Something something. Yeah. And you know who kills it, I think, for uh you watch CNN, yeah? I do. Well, not much, not really. What's is it Scott Stalin's? Yeah, yeah. The beyond um arrogant, obnoxious pundit to the right. And he just I don't think he does them any favors.

SPEAKER_03

Um most of them don't. They're so polarizing. I mean, you listen to these people. Christy Nome, I mean.

SPEAKER_05

We will bring up I'd love to get his thoughts on her.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. All right, let me go call him and let's uh see how it happens. All right.

SPEAKER_05

Are we on break?

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Stand by everyone.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, we can do our whole music. Welcome back. Dreams were your ticket out. Welcome back. Do you know that cast consisted of Freddie Boom Boom Washington? Hey Freddie, why do they call you Freddie Boom Boom Washington? He's calling, hold on. A boom boom boom boom boom boom. Arnold Horschet. Our A V guy once.

SPEAKER_03

We were just talking about Freddie Boom Boom Washington from Welcome Back Cotter. But do you know what he actually said, Steve? Do you know Jenna? Do you know what his quote was when they asked him why do they call you boom boom?

SPEAKER_05

Freddy, I think I know it. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03

What does Freddie say?

SPEAKER_05

Freddie. Oh.

SPEAKER_03

What exactly does he say?

SPEAKER_05

He does say something. Uh not boom boom. He says what? What? Say it.

SPEAKER_03

Because I like to be doing this all the time. I believe that's the exact quote that he said. How I know that, I couldn't guess.

SPEAKER_05

You know how long it's been since I've heard that? Oh, a minute. A minute.

SPEAKER_03

All right. So anyway, we've got our guest on the line. Um, Chris Montgomery is joining us today to give us uh uh a little bit of the view of the uh the other side, so to speak. And Chris, thanks for joining us. Uh and this is my partner, Steve. Uh, we call him Genda. And uh welcome to the show.

unknown

Good morning. How is everybody?

SPEAKER_03

We're good.

SPEAKER_05

Good. Nice to meet you, Chris. And good to meet you. And apologies for whatever's about to happen, but we had a nice introduction for a second.

unknown

Uh we we we survived four years of hell. There's no apology after that.

SPEAKER_00

We're frankly into a spot where we don't have to apologize anymore. We just make things better now.

SPEAKER_05

Wait, what which four what four years are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00

What what am I talking about? A four years of hell?

SPEAKER_05

Which four years, yeah.

unknown

Uh let's see.

SPEAKER_00

Four years of an out-of-control inflation, out-of-control immigration, death in America, destroy uh attack of American citizens day after day, attack of the U.S. Constitution against United States citizens, weaponization of every department of the federal government against United States citizens, myself included, for four years? Yeah, I'd say after that, we don't have much to apologize for. We're just making it better now.

SPEAKER_03

Making it better now.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

Um what what would you say is better right now? I mean, let's just just if we could just look at one little thing of inflation.

SPEAKER_00

Uh inflation is down, GDP is up, border is secure.

SPEAKER_03

Have you have you gone to the grocery store lately? I have.

SPEAKER_00

I have absolutely gone to the grocery store two days ago.

SPEAKER_05

What is what is down since last January?

SPEAKER_00

Well, liberals had a huge issue over eggs just 12 months ago.

SPEAKER_05

No, it's not liberal. No, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_03

What are you talking about? Eggs are through the roof.

SPEAKER_00

Eggs were over $12 one year ago today. And it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_05

Let me interject, if I might. You say liberals were it wasn't. It was Donald Trump who brought up the price of eggs. He's the one who hammered the price of eggs.

SPEAKER_04

Actually, no.

SPEAKER_05

To go look at it, actually, the Biden administration directly slaughtered how many chickens across America. Because there was disease. But that's not what you started with. That's not what you started with, though.

SPEAKER_03

You're waiting. Hold on. You're talking about again about when you talk about prices of food and everything else in the grocery store. I think that that that some of this is being conflated with issues that were supply chain issues due to COVID, um, which is another thing.

SPEAKER_00

COVID, which was absolutely a complete failed experiment that we can go into, considering the fact that I've represented and worked with uh ambassadors from the World Health Organization who also serve the United Nations from Africa.

SPEAKER_03

All right, hold on a second. Hold on, hold on, hold on. What we're trying to do here is have a conversation. So you don't there's nothing to be, you know, uh it won't help to just throw out a million uh figures of things because we don't have time to fact check any of it right now. But um what what about like right now today? Like these people that are getting assaulted and literally murdered in the street by a group of people that are seemingly about the term murder.

SPEAKER_05

Let's talk about it. Wait, wait, wait, Chris, hold on.

SPEAKER_00

Let's start with the fact from the Carolinas with a young lady sitting on a bus minding her own business, where an illegal immigrant, an illegal alien, has a legal definition under USCIS.

SPEAKER_03

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Don't let's not go into multiple things. I want to Steve what Steve talk about.

unknown

Let's define murder.

SPEAKER_03

Steve, what were you gonna say? Wait, we're not we're not talking about sitting on a bus.

SPEAKER_05

Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Let's Well, um Let's um facts all day on a lot. If you want to tell me, Chris, but you're doing wait, you're doing literally exactly what I'm gonna ask you not to do. Okay? Okay. Um I promise you, and I think Noah will, I'm speaking for him as well. We won't talk over you. We'll let you finish. But please do the same with us. Let us finish our thoughts or our sentences. That's all I'm gonna ask. Absolutely. Okay, so with the phone, it's kind of hard to hear what a sentence finishes, so I apologize. I understand. Okay, so you bring up the the girl on the bus in North Carolina, and we we all know that. We we all get that. Here's the part that I have a problem with, and before you came on, this is what this is what I was telling our our two our two listeners. That I'm trying to find I don't even know about common ground, but I'm trying to understand. I w I want to go to a place of understanding, I guess. And I don't know if I'm explaining that well either, but but but when you you point out one one event, one event doesn't equate to the rest of the country. It it doesn't equate to all wait, wait, wait. It doesn't it doesn't equate to all illegal immigrants, it doesn't equate to all undocumented uh res residents or whatever of the country. Uh sentences. Can I stop you right there for a second? They're not undocumented residents, they are illegal aliens.

SPEAKER_00

I'm an expert in immigration, I'm personally sponsoring 201 people who have legally come into the United States, who have sacrificed everything to be here, who have spent money, time, effort giving up their family, their friends, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_01

This is hold on your wait a second. Anyone who is here without documentation is not an ill is not a an undocumented resident.

unknown

They are flat out under the U.S.

SPEAKER_00

law, they are an illegal alien.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, let's say let's let's hey I'll grant you this. Here we can turn we can use any terminology we want. And I don't want to get lost in the weeds of that because frankly, I think it's uh it's not relevant. We're I I'm look I want to try to see if we can get more to the the substantive issues here, uh not not the terminology. Um let me ask you this, just simply. When you see what's happening in Minnesota, what how do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_00

Minnesota, very simple. You start off with Renee Nicole Bad, as most of us are calling her at this point in time. This is a woman who, first of all, lost her husband, lost two of her children, has a child with another lesbian woman.

SPEAKER_02

Fine about being a little bit more than a little bit of a little bit.

SPEAKER_05

That's not a good idea. Why do you have to work it? Well, what does the lesbian part have to do with it?

unknown

Well, let's just talk about the fact of where she's at as a person.

SPEAKER_03

Let's not get her entire culture into it because if you want to take the person who took her vehicle that the United States Supreme Court has ruled, if you use your vehicle as a weapon against a law enforcement individual, which she did, and she roamed at a person who was a law enforcement officer deserved to be shot in the head as she was in. Wow. Wow. You you really think that she attempted the murder of a law enforcement officer. I think that is a vast exaggeration. She was trying to leave, and they were trying to 100%.

unknown

No one, I love you to death.

SPEAKER_03

I've known you for more than a decade, right? But I can't let you go with I can't let you go with liberal rhetoric. No, this is not liberal rhetoric. Okay, hold on. She did not die. Okay, well, I I first of all, even if she did, we have a justice system, and you don't deserve to die. That police officer is uninjured and un he's not even a police officer. Right. Wait a second.

unknown

He is an officer and he was injured.

SPEAKER_03

Actually, there is proof.

unknown

So let's get the facts ready.

SPEAKER_03

Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Because I feel like you're showing internal bloody.

SPEAKER_05

I feel like what you're saying, Chris.

SPEAKER_03

She did not hit him. That car did not target him.

SPEAKER_05

The car didn't strike him, Chris.

SPEAKER_03

That's not that's just not true. Let me ask you this. Let me ask what you're doing. Wait, wait, wait, officer.

unknown

He is a law enforcement official.

SPEAKER_05

We have to get some common ground to the case.

SPEAKER_03

The Supreme Court hasn't ruled at all on this.

SPEAKER_05

Let's get some tomorrow. They did not.

SPEAKER_03

First of all, let me ask you this. Why was he even pulling his gun? Even in any police situation like that, if a suspect is, and that's a suspect of a crime, there's there was no discernible reason for them to be detaining this woman. There was zero reason for them to detain her, to even attempt to detain her.

unknown

Well, under U.S. federal law, there was absolutely a reason to detain this woman.

SPEAKER_03

First of all, if a law enforced, and I'm not sure what you're doing videos daily. What was the reason?

SPEAKER_05

What was the reason, Chris?

SPEAKER_03

What was the reason to detain her?

unknown

Obstruction of justice.

SPEAKER_03

How was she obstructing justice?

SPEAKER_05

What did she do specifically?

SPEAKER_00

She obstructed justice by interfering in the detention and arrest of illegal aliens who violated United States law and stole from you, I, and at least the 201 lawful immigrants that I work with daily that you directly stole from all of them that you obstructed the execution of justice for those people.

SPEAKER_05

No, no, no, no. I want to be specific. What exactly did she do that day? Nothing. She obstructed the fact that their uh their ability to arrest the other people. Let's break that down. Let's break it down. How did she do that? What did she do, though?

unknown

Her presence in the middle of an active crime scene and an active arrest and an active police investigation and federal investigation.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so everybody who's out there right now in Minnesota, according to this type of logic, they should be detained and or shot. We've seen we you and I have seen the same videos. And that couldn't be. No, they didn't want me on that. No, they didn't.

SPEAKER_03

No, the Supreme Court.

unknown

The Supreme Court has long held that this is the actual.

SPEAKER_05

Wow, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Chris, back up a little bit. You're saying the Supreme Court agrees with No, they don't. Nothing's recent. No, wait, wait, wait, Chris, Chris, hold on.

unknown

When a law enforcement

SPEAKER_00

Officer's life is in danger. This Nicole Renee bad, as most of us call it.

SPEAKER_05

Dude, you gotta be a little more respectful, Chris. That that's not right. No, you're not. No, you're not.

unknown

Domestic terrorists against the United States.

SPEAKER_05

Domestic terrorists?

SPEAKER_02

That's the question.

SPEAKER_05

Wait, wait. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you you called Stephen Miller? I thought we were talking to Chris.

SPEAKER_03

How is she a domestic terrorist? A peaceful walk taking photos? Are you talking about the guys that bashed in. No, she was turning her wheel away from him. Why was he standing in front of the car with his gun drawn to begin with? Because in any other law enforcement situation. In any other law, Chris, in any other law enforcement situation, even with an actual suspect, you've seen police chases. You've seen how they handle it. They get out of the way and they live to fight it. They're not gonna they don't open fire on a car. If a suspect drives away. You keep going to this Supreme Court thing as at a law enforcement officer. The law enforcement officer life is in danger. His life was not in danger. He should have never why why was his gun drawn? She wasn't, she wasn't a she wasn't an active active suspect.

SPEAKER_00

Thank God she's dead because that law enforcement officer had a family to go home to at the end of the day, so he could continue to make America great tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03

He could get out of the way. Why doesn't he just step out of the way? Here's the real issue. It doesn't matter, Chris. You can't just because someone breaks the law, you can't shoot them.

unknown

So it doesn't matter that she's a criminal herself for the obstruction of federal law and she's an obstruction of federal justice.

SPEAKER_03

A, it doesn't matter. No, no, not at all. No, that's still no reason to shoot a person. Absolutely not. There is no justification.

unknown

Then tell me this, Noah. Then tell me this on the left side of all of this.

SPEAKER_00

Then why is it okay that we spent four years with 2,500 American citizens having their daily lives erupted for the fact that they went in on a peaceful walk through the Capitol and they were being arrested at gunpoint, two of which were killed.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, hold on, hold on, wait, wait. Hold on a second, hold on.

SPEAKER_03

Hold on. When you when you say wait a minute. When you say a peaceful walk through the Capitol, I just want to ask you a question. I just let me just ask you a question. That was an armed mob smashing door. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Let me finish. Let me finish. I don't care who was there. I've watched hundreds of hours. The entire country has watched hundreds of hours of this. And I was personally in the middle of it all day. What about that was peaceful when they were smashing in doors and windows, when they were overrunning the law enforcement that was there? Why weren't those guys allowed to start opening fire on people? Those guys that peaceful protest was bashing through barriers. Wait a second.

unknown

Right there. A black wait a second. Exactly to your point. Thank you. You walked exactly to where I wanted to take you.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you.

unknown

You did it.

SPEAKER_03

You have a black cop. No, no, no, no. I don't care what color anyone is. This shot a woman in the head who was a direct a decorated United States Air Force veteran.

SPEAKER_05

Chris. And he shot her in the head without any. Chris, I'm I'm trying, Chris. Hold on. Hold on a second. I'm trying to keep some a little a little just a little bit of uh not compassion, but this is a great debate.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Wait, hold on. Hold on. Let me talk.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

The woman who got shot, what's her name?

unknown

Ashley Babbitt.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, great. That's fine. And we all agree. No, nobody in their right mind is gonna say Ashley Babbitt deserved to be shot in the head. Okay. Wait a second. The entire left did, including Nancy Pelosi. Oh Jesus Christ. Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. She cheered it. Nancy Pelosi did say that. And also, remember the entire left applauded that shooting when the officer did not even take aim and shot blindly.

SPEAKER_03

Wait a second, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't want to get this boiled down to a cherry-picking incident. I saw with my own eyes, hundreds, if not thousands, of people overrun the police force that was there. Those officers were fearing for their life by their own words, by all of them, by every single.

unknown

No, that's an exaggeration in and of itself.

SPEAKER_03

Because actually, that's if you've seen the same footage I have, and I represented 36 people, 36 patriots. Wait, wait, I were there officers there trying to stop their entry? Were there officers there who were literally directing and listen to me, Chris? Hold on. If we can't answer questions simply and directly, this isn't gonna work. Were there was there a police force there, the Capitol police force, that were telling those people do not go past this point. You may not enter here. There were hundreds of wooden barriers there that the police were on one side and the protesters were on the other.

SPEAKER_00

I have seen directly the footage that was provided only to counsel of actual testimony and actual defendants.

SPEAKER_05

Wait, uh enough. Enough to shift.

SPEAKER_03

No, I'm not comparing anything. I'm just asking you a very crime. Chris, I'm just asking you a direct question.

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Were there police officers on one side of the barriers and protesters on the other?

unknown

Yes. No different than yes.

SPEAKER_03

Wait, wait, good. Great, thank you. Yes, there were. And were those police officers telling them, do not cross these barriers? You are no, you are not allowed entry here.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and no, because you also had police officers who were guiding tours of grandma taking selfies through the building.

SPEAKER_03

Grandma taking selfies is and that showed up in over ten of the cases. Chris, did you see the footage of did you see the footage of these protesters smashing in doors and windows, grabbing flagpoles and batons and anything they can get their hands on?

SPEAKER_00

And actually, and then the number one footage you're looking at of that, Noah, you're also looking at the fact that it has now come out in the last six months.

unknown

So the number one uh person doing that was a was actually a member of the FBI doing that.

SPEAKER_04

No, Chris, there were dozens of shown.

SPEAKER_03

There were hundreds of people that were doing that. It was a mob scene. They were they were all doing it. They were in the building and they were trying to smash their way through the doors. So bringing this back to your Minnesota point.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_05

No, no, no, no, no, no. The left has been incredibly happy with the fact of the killing of Ashley Babbitt.

SPEAKER_01

No, decorated United States Air Force veteran.

SPEAKER_05

This is nuts. You know what? No, no, no, no. I don't want to be able to do that. No, no, no, let me let me. Okay. So with her vehicle.

SPEAKER_03

What does a lesbian have to do with that?

SPEAKER_05

Wait, wait, wait, wait. You keep using these terms this lesbian woman, this black man. Enough, Chris. These are just people. Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Chris, Chris, Chris. It was opposite. Chris, it's my it's my turn. Chris, it's my turn to talk over you. It's my turn to talk over you now. Sure, but enough. Enough. Start respecting people. And wait, wait, I'm I'm far from done. You're gonna let me talk. Not one person on the left cheered the death of Ashley Babbitt getting shot. Not one. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, hear me out. No, no, Chris, you're gonna you're gonna hear me out. My turn. My turn. The rules. Remember, the rules. You hear me out, I hear you out.

unknown

I'm I'm happy to hear you do that.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, I'm I'm just gonna point out that hundreds of people did actually cheer it, including Nancy Pelosi.

SPEAKER_03

Well, if you can find a quote where Nancy Pelosi is cheering it, please find it.

SPEAKER_05

Please text it to me. Find it. And we'll wait right here. Text it to us, Chris.

SPEAKER_03

But even if she did, I mean, then that's a that's wrong no matter what.

SPEAKER_00

I've got a consult at the top of the hour with an immigrant who's coming in here legally spending ten dollars. I I could do this all day with you guys, but I've got a I've got a I've got someone who's legally coming into the country. At the end of the day, guys, here's our biggest issue with what happened in Minnesota.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Twenty-six ill twenty-six million illegal immigrants, illegal aliens entered the United States in four years. The United States was overran by this.

unknown

I'm from Denver, Colorado, where we had to be a little bit of a.

SPEAKER_03

We're not. What do you mean overran?

SPEAKER_05

No, no, no. We are overrun. And the others coming through a rule. You're right, Chris. We've moved people through. We've lost our country, Chris. You're right. We've lost our country. Our way of life has been taken away from that.

SPEAKER_03

How have we been overrun?

SPEAKER_05

That is literally nuts. What you're saying, Chris, is literally nuts. You can say whatever you want.

unknown

26 million illegals invaded the United States.

SPEAKER_05

Invaded and overrun us. Right. Our way of life is gone, right? Because of them. Our way of life has been destroyed because we spent three years of the United States Constitution weaponized against American citizens.

SPEAKER_00

We have a group of people in Minnesota today defending illegals, not defending American citizens.

SPEAKER_03

They're not do you not know that these guys are actually stopping off-duty police officers? They're just grabbing anyone they want.

SPEAKER_00

You cannot show me one independent proof of that at this point.

SPEAKER_05

There's quotes all over the place. Let's back up. Let's back up. Hold on, Chris. Let's back up to something. What was the stated purpose of the ice raids? Who were they going after? The stated of the worst. In states. Correct. In states where nope, no, no, there's no and there's no and what you said was correct, and we're gonna agree on that. The worst of the worst. Yes. Perfectly fine. And by the way, I'm gonna go back to the Ashley Babbitt thing. Nobody is going to say to you or to anyone that the worst of the worst shouldn't be here. Okay? We agree on that. However, when they're going after the day worker at Home Depot, when they're going after the guy who who cuts the lawns in Southern California, do we agree that they're the worst? No, I want to see what you say. Are they the worst of the worst that we should be going after? The stated goals. Remember, those are the stated goals. Not my that's not me saying it. It's the administration saying it.

unknown

I'm putting on my next call on hold for just a couple minutes. Here's the issue, here's why we're doing the same thing.

SPEAKER_05

No, no, no, no, no, no. Let's go. I want to no, no, no.

unknown

Worst of the worst is who we should absolutely be going after, 100%. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

However, the problem is when you have state medical campon temp, where they are refusing to honor detainers, where they are refusing to aid law enforcement, or they are refusing to allow the local police to aid and back up, that is requiring federal officers to go into the streets to remove this this way. You do not have this problem going on in Florida. You do not have this problem going on in Texas. You do not have this problem even going on in DC. You have it going on because you have Tampon Tim and an out-of-control fascist mayor who has gone out of their way to not honor the United States government or the supremacy clause of the United States Constitution over states.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, well, what is it about the names, by the way? That's a real question. What is it about the names like Tampon Tim and the lesbian, the black? What is it about putting labels? Why do you wait? Can you agree? Wait, wait, can you agree if I called you dummy little dummy little Chris? That's your nickname. Is is that childish of me to say that?

unknown

No, it's it's the fact of the matter of let's go ahead and call these people exactly what has happened.

SPEAKER_05

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You're you're hold on. Your your cult your cult leader, your cult leader loves Chris, Chris, stop talking. Chris their identity is more important.

unknown

They must use their identity.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that's not an identity, that's not an identity. Come on. You really think that's that's that's uh uh a way of uh getting communication started to call people names?

SPEAKER_05

Adults. Adults. It's not it's not name calling, it's identity because I how many of these people?

SPEAKER_03

How many of these mental people does he wear tampons? What does that have to do with it?

unknown

Okay, the DSM 5 is declares people mentally ill.

SPEAKER_05

It's not name calling. So you don't think wait, wait, wait, let's let's be clear on this. All the stupid fucking names that Donald Trump uses when he talks about people, is that name calling or is that an identity?

SPEAKER_03

I I when he has used it to identify people by the use of the words that they choose to use, like in the discussion on the Cold Renaid. What? No, he doesn't use the words they choose to use. Wait, what?

unknown

Then adding that to her name and all of it.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so names like hey Chris, the SM5, yeah, that's great. That that's great now. So Gavin, the the the word, the term Gavin New Scum, that's not name calling, or he actually is scum. Which one? I would say the man is actually scum. I think that's a good one. Wow, so it's okay.

unknown

I would find a tremendous amount of people who would agree with that term.

SPEAKER_05

Wow. I've met him. So you're you're okay, you're okay with the president of the United States, the supposedly the most powerful person in the entire world, the entire universe, saying calling people names like new scum. You're okay with that?

SPEAKER_00

I am at this point, yes.

SPEAKER_05

Wow. At this point? Wait, wait, at what point would you not be okay with it?

SPEAKER_00

When the rhetoric on the other side had not gotten to this point, when we had not when we had not had, would not have been in favor of it in in 2019, when he did it then. I wasn't in favor of it. I wasn't in favor of it until we saw the the overreaction and the and the lack of behavior left in the last six years, and at that point in time I saw no other choice but to say the man's right.

SPEAKER_05

About the name calling, about the name calling.

SPEAKER_00

When I was personally having, when people know what I personally know, calling me up while I fought cancer, telling me that they hoped I died and making direct threats on my life because of my defense, my constitutional work as a in defense for defendants.

unknown

And they were hoping that I died.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so this has been great, Chris. At that point in time, when I saw the left go to that level. The left. See, you just everybody who called you now represents the left, right? I gotta say, just I don't know No, no, let him answer that. Let I I'm so tired of that. Of one like the guy, the immigrant in North Carolina that killed someone, that now represents all immigrants. So you're the people that called you and that wish death on you, which obviously is not the right thing to do and it's terrible, they now represent the left to you, right?

unknown

When they when their ideology directly says that they're doing it because of their left ideology, absolutely. I worked in Congress, I served in both houses of Congress.

SPEAKER_05

That's great. That's great. But that doesn't mean that's a good thing. You can't talk to a Democrat. You can not talk to a leftist today.

unknown

A leftist and a Democrat are two different people.

SPEAKER_03

Holy shit. A leftist can't talk about it. Fetterman, Fetterman can be talked to.

unknown

A liberal leftist you cannot talk to. Fetterman, you could sit down and actually work something out with.

SPEAKER_05

A what? Yeah, uh the Fetterman. Oh. Pennsylvania. Okay.

unknown

Fetterman, absolutely. Someone can sit down and have an honest to God conversation and work work out things with.

SPEAKER_00

Nancy Pelosi can't have that done with.

SPEAKER_05

Nancy Pelosi is irrelevant at this point, Chris. Stop with the Nancy Pelosi stuff.

unknown

Schumer is someone you could not have a conversation with.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, good lord.

SPEAKER_01

Sanders is not someone you could have a conversation with.

SPEAKER_05

What kind of conversation? What are you talking about? Wait, wait, wait. That's a pretty blanket statement. What what what type of conversation are you talking about?

unknown

To make America great.

SPEAKER_05

Wow. Again, right?

SPEAKER_00

Because I'm actually quoting 1960s Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan is who quote who came to the Make America Great campaign.

SPEAKER_03

Did Ronald Reagan did Ronald Reagan call people names? Did Ronald Reagan like call people names like a fourth grader?

SPEAKER_00

Actually, Ronald Reagan actually did use a lot of name calling and jokes. He was just actually a lot more grandfatherly and folksy about how he did it.

SPEAKER_05

Wow, name one. Name one.

SPEAKER_03

Who did he what what politicians should say no things that just aren't so? What fellow politicians did he use derogatory names about?

unknown

Oh, I can go to the library and I'd pull names for you.

SPEAKER_05

Give me some time and we'll get another call. Yeah, of course. Of course, of course. I know you have to go and we have to go, but uh appreciate the time and maybe we can pick this up again at some point.

unknown

I would love to.

SPEAKER_05

All right, thanks for being with us.

unknown

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05

All right, take care. All right, we're back. That was nice, and it was a friendly conversation, and it was adult like, which is what I wanted. That was the whole point of it. And he did not come off like he represented the entire right, certainly. Where the what the f fuck? You know what's crazy to me? I and all I thought all I thought about was wait.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, what? Please identify something. It's funny.

SPEAKER_05

You know, the the asshole on CNN, you know, stallings, whatever. You don't know how much of it is a show because he gets paid a tremendous amount of money. Right. A tremendous amount of money. It it it truly amazes me that guys like this, Chris, Chris, right? They exist. And that they obviously firmly, passionately believe what they believe. Yes. Which none of it is factual. That's what I don't get. And he and he quotes you know, he he told us he's an attorney over and over again that he that he served in Congress, whatever the fuck he does. Um this is nuts. This is Yeah. I wish we could have callers right now just to see what they say. I look I'm curious, do people agree with I know people agree with him.

SPEAKER_03

There are well, there are some that agree. I mean, I guess there's people who don't agree at all. There's people who agree to some degree, and there's people who are, you know, full right side Christine Holm who would agree to all of it.

SPEAKER_05

Um you know the crazy part. Well, one of the crazy I keep saying crazy, but the whole thing was crazy. That I I still I I was I was trying to harp on the one incident that defines an entire an entire group, an entire race. But what is the what's the purpose of doing the the lesbian, the black man, the the name calling? Wait, wait. He actually defended name-calling an adult. I don't know what he how old he is, 65, 70 years old, whatever he is. He's defending name-calling. Yeah. Tampon. He had to he actually said tampon Tim. Yes. And by the way, where does he get those? From Fox News. He doesn't he doesn't make that shit up.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_05

The names, the the I can't even think. I was trying to think of all the other names, the dumb names that he uses, but it's ever Pocahontas, the dumb shit. I know what he would have said about Pocahontas. It's a label, you know, it's it's what she has wanted. We got it. She said she was Indian, she's not, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But just that point on there were so many points in there that I would love to hammer him about, but he's I don't know if I use the term correctly sometimes, the term militant. To me, that was a militant. That was just that was crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it feels very agenda-driven, and it doesn't feel like there is any um you know, it doesn't feel like there's any space for reasonable discourse. It feels like it is a an attempt to prove the argument at all costs, and that's kind of a lawyer thing. That's what I've talked about, the court system. It's not a search for the truth, it's an attempt on each side to prove their point no matter what. And no matter how good a point someone brings up on the other side in a courtroom, the other attorney is never gonna go, Jesus, wow, you know, I never really thought about that. That's true. Maybe he did do it. That's never gonna happen. No matter what one attorney says, the other is going to argue another point vehemently. And I think that's a huge problem with our justice system, and I think it's a huge problem in our society because we're not uh geared towards finding a truth with a capital T. We're geared towards defending our uh uh point of view no matter what, because there's like something stigmatic about like, oh, I'm wrong, or I could evolve this viewpoint in some way. There were a couple of view viewed as weak or negative somehow.

SPEAKER_05

There's a couple things that stood out. One I remember in it somewhere in there, we'll we'll play this back at some point, maybe if we have the fucking nerve to do it. Um when he said to you basically that he led you down a path. Basically led you down a path. Oh, I knew I got you to say that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, whatever. And the other part, I knew that he would I asked him this for for a reason. I said, Well, what was her name, the woman who got shot? Did you hear how quickly he came up with Ashley Babbitt? It's their talking point. And then and the whole cheering on the left. That is maniacally nuts. And here's the thing that goes back to one or two people representing an entire party, an entire group. Of course, there's going to be people online on Twitter that go, yeah, she fucking the bitch fucking deserves it. We get that, of course. That doesn't represent. One person fucking stupid tweet does not represent an entire 50% of the country. That's what I have a hard time with.

SPEAKER_03

Among other things. He said, Yeah, I was there. I was there. And I was like, what you know, I asked why? What were you doing? Anyway, that that aside, when someone's gonna say what do you say it called the peaceful walk for whatever? Whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Peaceful walk through the through the capital, through our nation's capital, led by police or police escort or whatever.

SPEAKER_03

That's very hard to reconcile at that point because it becomes clear the polarity of viewpoints is not going to allow for any common ground. Because when someone's going to frame that, even when I say, you know, boil it down to something as basic as were there police on one side of a barricade and protesters on another?

SPEAKER_05

Well, you got him to say sort of a yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

He goes yes and no. I go, no, that's a yes or no.

SPEAKER_05

I think his answer was kind of.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because then he said there was grandmothers getting a tour. And I'm like, okay, so the police were clearly telling them, don't cross this. And then as a mob, they did, and the police were interfered for their life. We all saw the footage of them smashing windows and breaking in forcefully into the building. And then once in the building, we saw that horrific video of those dozen or so cops trying to hold those glass doors so that those hundreds of people would not overrun them and kill them at that point. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_05

Who was trying to certify the election? Who was Congress, Senate? Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's the Senate.

SPEAKER_05

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: The Senate was they were boarded up. Yeah. They were scared to death, literally running for their lives. Yeah. Boarded up in the chambers.

SPEAKER_03

Screaming hang Mike Pence because Trump had pointed them that Pence was the guy who wasn't delivering the election. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_05

Peaceful. Peaceful. And of course, of course, he said they've unearthed new video in the last six months. He said of course they have.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that's not gonna it's not gonna earth the video that I've already seen. There's nothing that's gonna unsee that. But yeah, I mean, you know, you wanted to have somebody, so we had somebody. Maybe we could find somebody else that's maybe has a more temperate view of things. Uh well, I don't know. I think that's a pretty good understanding of why things are so sideways.

SPEAKER_05

And that's it's that thinking in the way he thinks and and spoke that you can't have you know it's funny. He was putting it on um his words, you can't have a conversation with Schumer. Right. You can't have one with Pelosi. Yeah. You can have one with him, though? I mean, that was I don't like the term off the rails, but that was pretty off the rails. That stuff.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I and I had a I did have agenda coming in, by the way. I had a joke sort of lined up.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you did.

SPEAKER_05

It w it might have been sort of funny, and now it's not gonna be funny, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Please. I was gonna start with first question Do you believe the 2020 election was stolen? And he would say yes. Oh, yeah. And I would say, it's been great having you, Chris. Take care of talking. If you can't if you can't agree to that that it wasn't, and that's the basis of everything. It's stolen. You knew what he was gonna say after after a couple minutes in, I knew what he who his talking points were gonna be. Yeah. They're just they're so predictable.

SPEAKER_01

It is, it is.

SPEAKER_05

It's um and it's and as people like because of people like him, you can't have conversation.

SPEAKER_01

No, you can't.

SPEAKER_05

He went early with the liberal stuff. Uh first sentence, I think he started with the word liberal. Yeah. He doesn't know us. He knows you, he doesn't know me.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, like labeling in general is just a terrible way to enter a quasi-productive dialogue.

SPEAKER_05

He called me a name. He called me a liberal. See, his name calling. Yeah. I'm a liberal.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not a liberal.

SPEAKER_05

Well, you're a Jew, so also you're I wish he would have thrown that out. I'm glad that. What if he says that? So I was talking to Noah in that's Jew earlier today. This Jew liberal. This white Jew liberal.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, Lord.

SPEAKER_05

Well, that was fun. It didn't, that didn't go how I thought it would go. I thought I thought we'd have more a little comedy. I tried to be funny at the start. I I was gonna ask him about Welcome Back Hotter. Seriously, I was gonna say, who's your favorite character on Welcome Back Hotter? He immediately went into the crazy diatribe.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, like I said, there's there might maybe other people we can talk to and see if we can find uh different um, you know, people with different uh ideologies that are uh you know different degrees of things to maybe discuss it in a different way. But that was that certainly represented one aspect of it.

SPEAKER_05

Or we stick to our lane. Or we do nothing. Nothing.

SPEAKER_03

Because nobody can talk for an hour and a half about nothing like us.

SPEAKER_05

We we've perfected that, by the way.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was uh I'm I'm rattled. Uh I'm not really because I've had conversations with him before. Like that though? Um to a degree.

SPEAKER_05

I I that wasn't a conversation, that was him talking.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I mean I it's generally less so, but and I usually hit the eject button at a certain point if it becomes like that. Um but it's just you know, it's just it's challenging. It's hard. It's like when you say, you know, like you know, like uh you called somebody a domestic terrorist because she's a soccer mom and was terrified that these jack booted lunatics were gonna fucking pull her out of the car and shit.

SPEAKER_05

She's a terrorist. It's like the other guy, uh Alex Prady. Yeah. Yeah, he in Stephen Miller's words, he's an assassin.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I know. Brandishing his weapon. He never didn't never touched his weapon.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, the the argument that they're willing to make.

SPEAKER_05

That's just a lie. Forget the argument. They're just they're just lying.

SPEAKER_03

To justify their platform is beyond comprehension. And it's so, so hypocritical when it gets to a place about guns, like Donald Trump, well, you can't bring a gun. You can't bring a gun. Cut to five minutes ago when Nazis, self-proclaimed Nazis, were protesting in other streets carrying rifles and automatic weapons. And they're like, well, they have the right. It's okay to do that. They're not, they're just protecting themselves. That's okay. But this guy has a licensed pistol in his holster and gets dragged to the ground by eight guys because he tried to help a woman up. Again, another non-suspect. She didn't do anything. Nobody did anything. Right.

SPEAKER_05

She got pushed over, right?

SPEAKER_03

Those guys are instigating the physical violence. They're instigating the totality of this. And it's funny too, because you know, I don't know if you've seen there's a lot of these videos around now, these um auditors that people are just like videotaping people because it is legal, right? And they just do it purposely to agitate and try to get someone to actually take a swing at them or something, yeah, so that they can then sue them and whatever. And it's so fast. I mean, I'm a little bit fascinated by this. First of all, it is intrusive, it is disruptive, and it shouldn't be allowed to be that way. But right now it is. You can videotape somebody as long as it's on public property. You can wander around and tape their car or their license plate. You can do things that make people very uncomfortable, but they can't stop that. And it's kind of like eventually you get these people that get so irate and they do sort of attack somebody. But this stuff that's going on over there is uh from everything I've seen, I've not seen one person initiate any of this. It's all these guys, they're untrained, they're undisciplined, and they don't seem to be operating by any of the pervasive laws of the land. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_05

I would have liked to ask him if he well, I'm sure he knows how many times he got shot, Alex Brady got shot, ten times.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, they shot ten rounds. They fired ten rounds. What's the purpose of that?

SPEAKER_05

They had him detained. Right.

SPEAKER_02

They're com they're completely out of control.

SPEAKER_05

They had already taken the gun, which he had, like we said, holstered in his butt, basically. He was of no threat. Forget ten. Why one? Why one shot? How how do you justify this?

SPEAKER_03

Why are you tackling him to begin with?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like this is what I keep saying. Everyone tries to, you know, when I hear the right, you know, they kind of cherry pick one piece or the other.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly what he did.

SPEAKER_03

She she tried to you know assault him with the car. Why are they even talking to her? Why was she not allowed to just go about her business? She didn't do anything. She didn't interfere with anything. She just happened to be there. What they were doing there, I have no idea. Did you hear what he said?

SPEAKER_05

That the the the police officer, who wasn't a police officer, he had internal bleeding.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

No, he didn't.

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_02

He didn't get hit. He didn't get touched.

SPEAKER_05

No. He he was apparently from what we hear, he was in some type of altercation a week ago, a month ago, whatever it was, prior when he broke broken ribs or whatever it was. He wasn't touched by this car. We we all saw the same video. How how you know what?

SPEAKER_03

Even if he was, it goes back to what I keep saying is what are they doing with her to begin with? There's no reason for that cop to be anywhere near her car, let alone drawing his weapon. In any other law enforcement situation, with with trained officers, that they wouldn't have handled it even vaguely like that.

SPEAKER_05

And this is the problem that you and I agree. Makes for a shitty podcast. That other half hour with him was at least entertaining.

SPEAKER_03

This is just us agreeing, but Well, I don't think that's so shitty necessarily.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, speaking of critics.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_05

We defied all critics and we came back and did another podcast. Yes. They said they told us to stop.

SPEAKER_03

Couldn't be done. Or did you hear? Oh, speaking of critics, this is funny. You know, there's this Melania movie.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, God, that nobody went to see. Yeah. Yeah, that literally nobody's gonna see.

SPEAKER_03

Literally, one of the theaters that opened, they sold three tickets. I saw that. Yeah. Uh over the course of several shows, they sold three tickets. Did you see the variety? No, Daily Variety is basically the touch point of reviews and industry.

SPEAKER_05

Uh what did it say?

SPEAKER_03

This movie was so bad that if they showed it on an airplane, people would walk out. I thought that was hilarious. Um yeah, the Melania movie.

SPEAKER_05

People, who's gonna fucking see this? Who's gonna go to this movie?

SPEAKER_03

Well, and you know the this guy fucking Brett Ratner made the movie.

SPEAKER_05

Is this a Brett Ratner movie? Yes. How much did Trump pay him to do this?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

He's made great movies.

SPEAKER_03

Well he's made some great movies, but he's also kind of notorious. Um yeah, if any of your listener, our our listener can Google Brett Ratner and see basically what he's all about.

SPEAKER_05

And give us a call.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, call us on uh 1-800 no genda, gendless. Well, gosh, that was a lot. Do you is there anything else you want to oh we had some things that you texted me. Oh we could go back to just for our own energy. What did I text? Nothing else.

SPEAKER_05

Tell me.

SPEAKER_03

Um, let's see.

SPEAKER_05

I made a note too.

SPEAKER_03

Well, first of all, you said uh Oh, I've got one.

SPEAKER_05

Uh this happened yesterday.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, oh, I remember wait, hold on. Wait, this is good because I had no idea what the fuck you were talking about. And you're like, save it for the podcast. Um, okay. You said, Oh, I you sent me uh a picture of our logo, and I sent you the new one. I said, Hey, use this one. Much better art. Oh my god. Yes, this was good. Oh my god. You said monk.

SPEAKER_05

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03

I said monk question mark. You said art. I said, literally no idea what you're talking about. You said reread. I said, no clue. You said we'll discuss on cast of pod. And now in reading it out loud, realizing art monk.

SPEAKER_05

Greatest receivers of our time.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, he was on my fantasy league when I was seven years old or something. Art monk. Okay, well, that piece has been figured out for the sixth of Art.

SPEAKER_05

That's a good behind the scenes of no agenda. What do we really talk about? Nothing. Not much. Art Monk.

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Notes. Losing coaches and God references.

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Oh, yes.

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I think I know where this is. This was amazing.

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This was a big one. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. Do you know our family's uh Indiana family? IU? Mm-hmm. We're all IU. Okay. Four generations of IU. And it's fantastic. It's a lot of hoosiers. A lot of hoosiers. Um You know they won the championship?

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Somehow or other, yes.

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Yep. Big win over who did we Miami? Yeah, Miami a week and a half ago. A long time ago.

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Okay.

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And I'm not picking on the coach Crystal Ball of Miami. It's just this is a reference. So is that his name? Crystal Crystal Ball is his last name.

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Oh, Crystal Ball.

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Crystal ball? Crystal.

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That's funny. I literally thought you said Crystal Ball.

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No, it's it's my it's you said a reference point. It's my reference point on this.

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Wait a minute. It's not freezing in here.

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No, it's not. It's not the frozen tundra. It's not even a sauna.

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Look, I wore my par guard. I don't really need it now. Okay, sorry. Didn't mean to.

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You know what it is? It's temperate. It is temperate. It's mild.

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It's lovely.

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Yes.

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Crystal ball. All right. I'm going to say it one more time. In case you're listening to this, Coach of Miami, this is not meant as a dig at you whatsoever. It's only the reference point.

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Aaron Ross Powell You mean the black lesbian coach of Miami?

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Aaron Ross Powell Black lesbian Jewish white coach. It's been a minute since we said that. Welcome back. So Okay. How many times do you see the interview woman the woman? Wow, the winning team. They interview the player, the coach. What's one of the first lines they'll they'll say?

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Want to thank God, want to thank Jesus, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

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There you go. Okay. When was the last time? And I know we're not the only ones to ever say this, so I'm I'm not saying anything that's novel, but when was the last time you heard a losing player or coach be interviewed? And the first thing they say No, forget the first thing, and they actually bring up their faith.

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Yeah.

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The same coach. Okay. So we're watching the game the other night, Indiana, Miami game. And the Miami coach, when they won the uh when they won the couple games leading up to the championship game, first, first sentence he says, just like the quarterback of Indiana, by the way. So again, I'm not picking on anyone.

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Right.

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Okay. Mendoza, quarterback of Indiana, does the same thing. First, I want to uh give all you know thanks to God and whatever. Okay. Coach of Miami. Same thing. Starts the interviews with, I just want to thank God. So on. Great. Nothing wrong with that, by the way. Okay? So the phone lines are lighting up right now. I beg to differ, but anyway. Okay. That's fine. It's your faith. I I do not care. Sure. Okay. That that's if you want to say it, okay. Doesn't hurt anyone. That's fine.

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Okay.

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And I used the word hypocrisy the other day, and I that might be the wrong word. But I told I was sitting there with Michelle, wife Michelle, watching the game. I said, this is going to be interesting. He's a man of faith, the coach of Miami. When they interview him, it's going to be curious. Is he going to say thank you to God? I want to praise God and all that.

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Trevor Burrus Uh upon losing.

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Upon losing. He lost the game. So sure enough, the interview, hey coach, you know, sorry you gave it your all. What did you say to the players in the locker room? Not one word about God. Trevor Burrus And again, please note I'm not picking on him. I'm picking on the entire losing liberals, the the losing players who preach when they win. They preach they want to give thanks to God and Savior. So the the old joke, or it's getting old now, I I want to hear a losing team say, we got outprayed.

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We got outprayed by the Not outplayed, we got outprayed.

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You know where they say that? In China. They outprayed us. They outprayed us.

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And canceled.

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Yeah.

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Steve. I want to hear the On behalf of all black, lesbian, Jewish liberals. Jewish. I just want to say you're canceled. Perfect.

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Canceled. It's my turn. But and again, I don't know if the word's hypocrisy or not. And then there are a friend of mine at the gym, the guy who owns the gym, he's he holds church, Bible study, and I asked him that. And he actually said for the first time ever, you know, that's a good point. He doesn't call me genda, but he goes, Steve, that's actually a good point. You're right. You don't hear the losing player or the losing coach ever give thanks to God.

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Nor blame him.

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Nor blame him.

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Which which would stand to reason. Right. What do you think happened out there today with your team? Well, clearly God liked the other ones better. Trevor Burrus, that's it. That's it. We played better, we are better, and God fucked up. He must not have been paying attention because those pieces of shit in that other locker room, they didn't even pray. I heard, I was listening to the pregame. They didn't pray.

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He didn't do a scouting report at all. Yeah, no. At all.

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And that should be, you know, that's I always thought that was funny, especially in boxing matches. It's the first thing they do.

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Yeah. I want to thank God.

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Well, thank God. Meanwhile, the other guys over there going, why didn't God help me?

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And that's why I have troubles with religion. I just do, and you know that. Yes. I I do. I'm not saying it's a farce. It's not. Yes, it is. Okay, it's a farce. I I will say it. It's a farce.

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It's a farce born by ignorance and a need to feel unalone, which we are. Uh I've been studying a lot of cosmology lately.

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Yeah, why?

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I don't know. I just, it's so much.

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Ooh, so you can make me a good drink?

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No, but I can do your nails. Hey yo.

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Cosmology, cosmetology. Wait, what's the the guy, the bartender? What are they?

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Is that a cosmologist? No, it's I used the wrong term.

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They're a mixologist. Cosmetologists.

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No, I've been listening to more Neil de Grasse than some of the other guys. Big fan of Neil deGrasse. Just some of the numbers are not going to be a good thing. You've sent me some stuff.

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Neil deGrasse stuff.

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Yeah. When you get into like the actual numbers of like not even our solar system, which is staggering. Do you know the biggest planet in our solar system, which I believe is it's either Jupiter or Saturn. No, no, no.

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The biggest planet?

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It's Jupiter. Hey Siri, what's the biggest planet in our solar system?

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I'd like to welcome our guests. There's a good skit there. On the phone now is Siri.

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And check this out. Jupiter. You didn't like that joke. I was trying to make sure I remembered something correctly. Jupiter is the largest planet in the solar system.

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It's not Uranus.

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You're stupid. And it's the largest by this factor. If you took all the other planets and put them together, it's two and a half times bigger than the mass of all the other planets.

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So it's bigger than Uranus.

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Nothing's bigger than Uranus. How stupid are we? Um but that's just like one little tiny tiny factor. I mean, like the distances between us and our nearest star, and the distances between our nearest star and its nearest and our galaxy and the next nearest galaxy, you know, I think 22 million light years.

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Light years. Yeah. And light travels pretty fast.

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Faster, faster than I can drive. Uh-huh. And um Or speak.

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That's the weird thing.

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The amount of the size of everything out there and our silliness about God, it's that that's a big thing to me. It's like you know, oh God. And like we're so privileged, and when we have just not uh even faint clue of what else might be out there.

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Aaron Powell Well, I'll ask you this, my friend.

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And and how it could even possibly ever get here or us to them is is astronomical when you look at the size and scope of things.

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Aaron Powell Please We've known each other for a few months now, at least. Actually, if we count months, it's probably six hundred.

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More grains than sand in the beach. Uh-huh.

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Um What do you think for guest number two to have the guy at the gym, the guy who owns the gym that I go to? Uh-huh. Um the the very religious faith, a man of faith. What about having him on? Sure, bring him. That's a that's a different discussion. Bring him. Yeah? Sure. Guest number two. And that'll be a little more tame.

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I mean, the whole thing about that is, you know, there's there's so many people have spoken much more eloquently. Um Sam Harris has some pretty great rhetoric on faith in God.

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Um, so childish. I'm guaranteeing we can Can mark these mark these notes down right now. I bet he won't call us liberals or lesbians or black or Jewish.

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He might call us all of those.

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I don't know. It's possible.

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I had one other note, but I will save it for another day.

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I feel like we haven't really had a podcast today. No, we had a we had a shouting match.

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That went off the rails. That went off the rails within 10 seconds.

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It got off the rails before it got out of the loading zone. We have to do some maintenance. Yeah, it's it's it's unfortunate, but it is what it is. You know, it's hard to have a dialogue.

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What are we gonna put in the show notes for this one? How do you describe it? Uh remember the friends and how they titled it the one? Yeah. Everything starts with the one. Right. This could be the one, the one that went off the rails.

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The one that went off the rails.

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Quickly. Dot dot dot. Quickly.

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If you're a MAGA, you're gonna want to hear this. You're gonna want to hear these two idiots try to make these stupid points about people's right to live.

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And try to defend not name-calling. Yeah.

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These guys are more assholes. Think it's not good to call people names.

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You know what? I just renamed our castapod. What? Liberal agenda. Liberal liberty. Liberal agenda.

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Liberal gender.

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That's perfect. It's our agenda.

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It's our liberal agenda.

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Terrible but perfect. Trevor Burrus, Jr. He went so quickly with the liberal stuff.

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The first sentence. Well, like it's it's all just about I don't know what it's about, because I think he knows he's not really making points that are going to get through to us. Sometimes I just think people talk and they think if I talk long enough, fast enough and loud enough, at least no one will argue with me because I tried so hard to set the ground rules.

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I know of I will hear you out if you I start, by the way, I do start every conversation with m a MAGA like that. I will listen to every word you say, but you have to do the same. Yeah, you listen to every word I say. I will even we can we can even say at the end of the sentence, and I said that to him, I think. I said I'm done with that sentence. Just do that for clarification, so nobody talks over anybody.

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Like you're on a walkie-talkie.

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Right. Over.

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Copy.

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What's your Victor, Victor? All right.

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Oh, geez, Victor. Yeah, agenda. Well, um, let's have another cast soon so we can talk about all the other things in the world uh or not in our tiny worlds. How's your life? Everything okay? No. No?

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Nope. Nothing's good. Nothing. Nothing nothing's happening.

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How's your health?

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Okay. No jokes about health, right?

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You can joke.

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Health's okay. That's great. Health is shockingly okay.

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That's that's fantastic.

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You had a lot of shit going on. Oh God. Yeah, you did. Yeah. Not you Wait, you personally? Yeah, you you wore a heart monitor last I saw you.

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Yeah. Um it was doing a thing, so now I'm taking uh beta beta blogger.

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Which one?

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To try to get my heart rhythm to normal out.

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Which one? Oh God, I don't know the name. We're at that age.

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We're talking about heart medicine. It's it's a little bottle of pills. There's a whole shit ton of them. There's like three month supply, and I take one every morning, and uh my heart's supposed to not do that fluttery thing.

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Okay. Is it um is it non-fluttery?

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Uh it seems to be a bit better, but I also got really sick.

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Yeah, I remember that.

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I got and I st you can still hear I'm not sure.

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You were annoyed by my text when you were sick. I called you a cunt, remember that?

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Yes.

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Yeah, and you didn't take that in the vein that it was supposed to be, which was somewhat funny. I thought, you cunt.

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If you called me a black, lesbian, liberal, Jewish cunt, I would have understood. Right. But not cunt. Cunt on its own, I was confused. I was just confused because I thought, wait, what is there an actual reason for this? Or am I just so out of it that I don't know what's going on anymore? So I had 102.5. That's high.

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Yeah. That is actually bad.

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And I had it for a couple days. So I was really fucking Oh, did you get vaccinated? I had a I got the flu shot uh like a month or so ago.

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Um And that'll fuck you up. Liberals, only liberals take the shots.

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Yeah, that's of course they do. Um fuck you up.

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Yeah.

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Well, I got so uh anyway, like yeah, a month ago I had the microchip implanted in so that the government can track my whereabouts. Um yeah, and uh uh yeah, so but I eventually I went and did get tested. They said negative for COVID, negative for flu. And then the doctor literally goes, you know, we can test yours for a thousand things, but there's so many viruses going around right now, and they've gotten so mutated and so changed because everyone just goes on antibiotics immediately that these viruses have become complicated.

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Did you ever go immune? I did not.

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Good. Um I just you know You're you're anti-medicine. You've all you've always been.

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I'm anti-medicine, but I try to avoid it where possible. Which is smart. I think it's important for our bodies to heal themselves and to build up our defenses and our immunities.

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We are the most medicated country in the world.

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We are, and it's not doing us any favors.

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Uh-oh. No favors.

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I was really hesitant to go on these beta blockers, but you know, I have a kid.

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I'm up to I'm up to six pills a day.

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Six pills a day. Six fucking pills. Are they all for a different thing?

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Yep.

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Can we go through the list real quick?

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Real quick. Protonics is for uh regurgitation. Or what's it? Acid reflex. 30 years.

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What's it called?

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Regurgitation. It's not.

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No, the the medicine.

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Protonics.

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Protonics. Okay. Wow. It sounds like a new sneaker.

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It's not. And it might be protonics. Norvask, which is the beta blocker like you take.

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Okay. Why do you take that?

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Heart issue.

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You did you have the flutteries?

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No, no, no. Oh, no, you've had a thing. I have still heart valve, which I will have replaced could be a month, could be two years. Wow, okay. Okay. That's two norvask. Lipitor, cholesterol. Cholesterol, yeah. Okay. That's under control. Good. Uh a sleep two at night, I don't know. I think uh we're gonna I'm I'm not gonna go into those drugs. But they're not it's not like the uh Propofol. I do take propofol. No, you don't. The milky one I inject. It's an injection. It helps me sleep.

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Did you get that from your veterinary? Yeah, no, the other ones are more in the uh as the I got I got at the estate sale for Michael Jackson's rate.

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And Prince who got it from Prince.

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Used propofol. Okay, so those are uh you take a sleep thing like a like No.

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No. So anyway, there's three others.

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Three others?

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Well what Yeah. Well as as we say in Yiddish, the kepi? It's in the head. In the head, you know.

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Oh mental stuff.

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Yeah, but not like Valium or lithium. No, you take like uh small, small. What's it called? Uh say it. Say it.

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Um What's the one everyone takes?

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Oh, no. I know what you're thinking. What is that?

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The anti-anxiety stuff.

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Um not Valium, clothes.

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No, that's old. That's 1960s housewives. Where's my Valium?

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Uh I take greenies. Greenies and uppers. Bennies.

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Why can we both not remember the name of this stuff? Well, LexaPro is one of them, but that's not the one we're trying to think of.

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No.

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So anyway, you take one of those.

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Yeah, but it's not that. Okay. It's very light. Okay, that's good. We're done. All right. My drug life.

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Well, glad you've got uh glad you've got those drugs to help uh keep things under control.

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All right. Till next time. Jenda. Sign off. Peace. You sign off.

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All right. Thank you for listening. Tell your friends, tell your enemies, tell anybody to listen.

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Drive safe.