Noahgenda - The 11th One

In this episode, we deep dive on Jews and Judaism, Genda lends his considerable expertise and eventually shares a most bizarre story about coaching girls basketball in the suburbs. Noah shares a bizarre anecdote about recently filming in the house where the Phil Spector/ Lana Clarkson murder occurred and the bizarre connection to his father. There's tons more tidbits for you to Nosh on and believe it or not, this one is gonna have you laughing your ass off!

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:03

Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to another episode of Noah Genda Podcast. I'm Noah, and as always, sitting across from me is my inimitable partner, Genda. What partner? Initable. What? Inimitable. Still don't know what it means. It's okay. I can say it ten more times. It's not gonna help.

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Was it the Saturday Night Live from 70s or 80s with Steve Martin? The abominable snow. The inimitable snow.

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Yeah. Abominable and inimitable are completely different meanings. Could not be more disparate. What? Now we don't know what that word means either.

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I believe that sex is the most beautiful, loving, and caring thing money can buy.

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Yes. Ah, Steve. Ah, Steve. It's Jenda. Steve Martin. Oh. Don't ever refer to me as Steve. And should only be referred to as golden bosoms.

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I believe a woman's bosoms.

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Never be referred to as cans.

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Melons. Boobies. Bazongas. That was one of them.

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Bazongas.

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Bazongas. That's one that never really caught on. Or not past that year anyway.

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How are you now?

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Oh, agenda, agenda. I'm okay. I'm okay. I mean, you know, I try to look on the bright side. I try to stay grateful for the positive and the good things in my life. But there are challenges all the time.

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Name three good things. Go.

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Uh my son, uh, my son.

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That's yep.

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And my son? He just turned he just turned four years old, by the way. Mozletop. Two days ago, Cinco de Mayo.

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He can vote now, right?

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Yes. I don't know about that, but he can drink.

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He can buy a gun.

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I'm not saying it's legal, but he can drink. Let me tell you. A four-year-old will put you under the table. Oh no. He did. He turned four and uh yeah, his uh Hey no.

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What kind of birthday party do you have for him? Ah, we got a kegger. Open bar.

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Do you think there's such a thing as a white snake cover band? White snake cover band.

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They really only had one song, so that would be kind of a difficult show to uh you know. Was that Tony Catane? Yeah, Tony Catane.

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Catane?

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Catane. Yeah.

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The other one was Catane. Rick. Tawny Catane. No, who was the actor? Saturday Night Live.

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Catane.

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Catane. Oh, oh, Chris Catane. Chris Catane.

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Yeah, yeah. No relation.

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Tawny Catane. Catane?

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Yeah.

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That's right.

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Yes.

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You know who she married to. David Coverdale. No, baseball player.

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Who she married to? David Coverdale, the white snake guy. That's why they Here I go again on. She married a baseball player?

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In the 80s? No? A pitcher for the Angels?

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Jeez, I have no idea.

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Mark Lingston, maybe?

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You're gonna have to Google that.

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Go to the Google.

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Go to the Google! Um, yeah, no, that was uh in uh Talladega Nights, they did a great reference to uh Tony Catane on that car when she's remember that part where she's like crawling over the table.

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He's like, that's just uh this reminds me of that white snake video. Remember what that girl? And she's like, oh yeah, Tony Katane. He's like, yeah, she was so hot.

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Yeah, she was. Wow, she had a year-long affair with O.J. Simpson.

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Oh, it's true.

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That I do recall that being in Chuck Finley, an Angels pitcher. She was married to Chuck Finley? Was married to Chuck Finley, a former Chuck Finley, a former pitcher for the Anaheim Angels. They were married in 1997 and had two daughters together. Wow.

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Was she married to anybody else ever? Looking. In 97, that was well after her uh her fame. What year was that video? Was that video in the 80s or early 90s? I'm gonna say 80s. Because that was hairband time.

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It was hairband. Hairband. Hairband. Uh it doesn't say anything about her being married to maybe they were just an ex-wife of white snake, white snake singer David Coverdale. Yeah. And former Angels pitcher. She really went after the big names, huh?

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Well, hey, come on, she's talking to Dane. Good for her. Do you remember how iconic that was?

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Her on the car, on the hood of the car?

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I mean that was like that's what people don't understand now. Well, because there's so much media and everything is so vast, there's 4,000 channels, and then there's a trillion online channels and you know, YouTube and everyone, there's just so much content. And you know, things go quote unquote viral for 18 seconds and then nobody ever hears and remembers again. But like back in those days, there was so much more limited media. Like, you know, there was our four channels that we had. Eventually, you know, you had HBO or MTV. You know, the beginning of spn. Remember how primitive that was? And MTV. And like when MTV came out, if a new video popped on MTV, everybody, everybody knew about it. It wasn't like that.

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Where did you watch Thriller? I know where I watched.

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Oh, uh I watched it in Michigan.

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Where though?

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Uh I was at my uh my roommate's house. We were it was like on a holiday of some kind.

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But it was an event. Oh, yeah. You knew when it was going to be on. We went, I was in uh Tempe at ASU. And there's a bar, a little Mexican bar called uh the Dash Inn Mexican restaurant bar. And I went with our friend Steve, and we made an appointment to be there. Like an hour ahead of time, we had to have front row seats to the big screen. Yeah. And we watched Thriller. Greatest thing ever. Crazy. Crazy back then.

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It was like yeah, when that fucking Tony Catane White Snake video came out. Prior to that, eleven people knew the name Tony Catane. And when that video came out, there was not a person in a high school or college in America that did not know who she was.

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What movie did she marry a character named Rick?

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Oh, she was only in like one movie. Oh, it was a Bachelor Party. Yeah. Tom Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks. Yeah. Um But yeah, it's like people just cannot comprehend the level of fame people used to have. Like when they you know, when people that are younger, that aren't our age, you know, hear about my dad or whatever, like, oh yeah, he was a this or that. Was he famous or something? I'm like, you you cannot comprehend that level of fame. When you were a star of a one-hour television show in that era, you might as well be Brad Pitt. Trevor Burrus, Jr. How long was that show on? Beretta was only on for I think three seasons.

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That's crazy.

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Seems like it was on for a lot longer.

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It does. And how many times was he on Johnny?

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Uh at the time, I think it was some kind of record. It was 20 or 30 times. He was on it all the time.

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Yeah.

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Seemed like he was on it almost every week for a while.

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He was a fun, wacky and zany guest.

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He was a crazy ne'er do well. Um but yeah, no, it's really it's really interesting. Like, you know, when something would would would ignite back in those days, it was uh you know, there wasn't there wasn't like some people knew about it, some people didn't. Oh older people knew, younger people knew. No. Everybody, everybody knew. When a big thing happened, it wasn't contained to a a segment of the population. Like because right now, there's things happening on TikTok that I have no clue about.

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I wouldn't know. I hope not. Yeah. And we're not really in the TikTok demographic.

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A lot of people are in it all over the place.

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I watch I watch it all the time, by the way.

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Oh, do you know what? Speaking of, this is crazy.

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Uh on apparently I will decide if it's crazy.

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Yeah. Apparently on uh inst Twitter or what uh uh whatever it's called now? Uh X? Is it X?

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Insta Twitter.

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Is it still called Twitter or is it only X now?

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Whatever. We call it Twitter. It's X.

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Okay. I'm not on it, so I don't know. Uh I was told that um my uh a video clip of my father has gone viral. What? Because someone, for whatever reason, posted a thing on on Twitter that said uh um it was a pi it was a it was an image or a little mini mini video clip of him in the movie um in the David Lynch film. Uh he did a David Lynch movie.

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Which one?

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Uh it was his last one, actually, called uh Lost Highway.

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Don't know.

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In which he played this sort of bizarre, otherworldly devil type character, Grim Reaper. And at one point, Bill Pullman is like having these weird delusions and hallucinations, and my father appears to him on this telephone call, and it's like, and my dad it says, looks right in the camera and says, you know, like, I'm in your house right now, or whatever, something crazy like that. And someone posted that clip saying, This is the creepiest moment in film history or something. And apparently it went totally viral. Everyone was reposting it.

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I just put in a Robert Blake video into Twitter. First thing that came comes up is a video of him on Johnny with Orson Wells. Oh, that was. It says Orson Wells getting fat shamed by Robert Blake. That's true. Until he snaps back with Yeah. I'm fat. You're ugly, but I can diet. Yes. That's a great line.

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I don't see uh look up the lost highway clip.

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Lost Highway Clip.

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Somebody told me it had like 13 million views or something.

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All right. Searching the Google is searching their Jesus. Wow.

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What do you say?

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Yeah, that's it. He looks like the Joker.

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Yes, that's it right there.

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Holy shit. Uh there's a whole bunch of them. A lot of people who posted them.

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Yeah.

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So isn't that that's like somebody literally just 1.5 million. You're correct.

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Yeah, no, that I think that's just how many uh posts, but it's it's gone way.

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Views. That's views.

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Oh, on that one. But I think there's reposts. Wow, your dad's gonna be famous now. He's actually he actually called me and said he is digging out of his grave right now to uh remount his career. He said, This is the moment I've been waiting for. Not unlike Steve Martin in the jerk.

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Remember collect phone calls? Oh, yes. You have a collect phone call from.

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That was when you were at a payphone and you didn't have enough change, you'd have to call someone collect.

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Enough change being a dime or a quarter.

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Well, if you want to talk for more than like 30 seconds, collect calls. You remember calling a 411? Yeah, of course. You know what I heard the other day? 411 still exists. You can still call information and ask for yes, you can. You can yeah, someone was doing a whole joke about it. Like, who's sitting there at the 411 operator desk like waiting for a call?

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That's a Gary Goldman bit. Yeah.

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It's like, hello, 411. Yeah, can you tell me why? Are you even calling here? You understand how much information is available right now.

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You're lucky. I rarely pick this line up.

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I was going on my coffee break, which is approximately 23 hours of the day. But no, it still exists.

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And if you want to know what time it was, what did you do?

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Called uh time.

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Which was it was it zero? Was it nine? Oh oh one oh there was something you could call for time.

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If you remember what the number was for time, call in, let us know. And do you remember the voice? I can do it exactly. Exactly. Pretty close.

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Okay.

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At the tone, the time will be 843. That's it. Exactly. It had this at the tone, the time will be. And then the tone you it had to have that tone, like just in case so you had to be on the second if you had to know exactly when the time was.

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Or you would wait for it. Yeah. Yep. 843. It was like every 10 seconds. And 20 seconds. It would update every 10 seconds.

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And 30 seconds. That was like the first like automated AI howl type voice that we ever heard.

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It was kind of creepy. There was uh I've I've told you my family's.

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But like what when did you have to call time? Like, where would you be where you had a phone access but not a clock, not a watch? That's a good point. Uh that's so funny. But I remember as a kid, it was kind of fun to call the timeline. Right. We called. That was like a thing to do. Let's call time.

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I've told you my family's from Indiana, right? And I spent all my summers growing up in Indiana. Yes. Okay.

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We got I'm going back to Indiana.

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Who's saying that?

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What does it sound like?

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Sound like Noah.

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Indiana, here I come.

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I'm going back to Indiana.

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They're from Gary, Indiana. That's correct.

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Gary, Indiana. Gary, Indiana.

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You could see Gary, Indiana from 20 miles away from the smokestacks.

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From twenty miles away from Gary, Indiana.

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From Gary, Indiana? No, from here.

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Yes.

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From Indiana.

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You could see Russia. Okay.

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So we only had Marion, Indiana, Northeast Indiana. Only had five or six stations, TV stations. One of them was WGN, Big Chicago one. But one of them I was just infatuated with. I could sit there for hours and watch it. It was a camera that moved left to right. Okay? The first thing that you would see, it was a dial, the time.

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Okay?

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The next it would go over to another dial. It was the temperature. The next dial, this is true. The next dial, humidity. The next dial, wind and wind direction. And then the camera would go right to left. You'd see the wind. You'd see the wind. It might have been more wind. It might have dropped. The barometric pressure was that on there? Yes. Left to right, right to left.

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Now you see children out there who complain about you don't have enough things to entertain you. That's what we used to have to do.

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Right.

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Watch a wind dial. Did you have to were you did you get excited like when you'd go like from whatever was on the far left, and then as it's slowly padding to the right, sometimes were you anxious for it to get back to the left and see if the temperature might have dropped a degree or something?

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That's probably where my OCD started. Yep. Hurry up out. Fucking hurry up. Go faster. Pick it up.

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That is amazing that they had that as a channel. Yeah. Well, you know what? That's because that's probably, I mean, that's basically that's farmland out there. That's that's farm country.

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Definitely.

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That would have been a thing that would be useful to farm people.

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Farm people. Farm folk. Wait, to farm people or to farm people?

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You know what they say? Farm people, farm people.

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Remember the uh the Twilight Zone? You know the Twilight Zone I'm gonna bring up. Oh, of course I do. To serve man.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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It's a gun-gook!

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That might be the single greatest surprise ending in television history.

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You know what it was? It was a play on words or a pun. It was a pun.

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It was a pun, yeah. For those of you who don't know what the hell we're talking about, there was a television show long ago called The Twilight Zone.

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Hosted by Rod Serling.

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Rod Serling. I love the fact that he was always smoking a cigarette.

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Always.

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Yep.

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Can you imagine if they did that now? Just the host is just smoking a cigarette casually.

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You're traveling to a wondrous what is it? You're traveling to a world of sight.

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A world of mind. Traveling to wondrous direction. A dimension.

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Dimension not only of sight and sound, but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination at the next stop ahead. The twilight zone.

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Your next stop. Yeah, that's good. That was good. That was rod-like. Do you remember like being I mean, being sick was always a drag, but the fucking great part of being sick was there was basically a channel that just ran the Twilight Zone all day, it seemed like. I don't know if it was channel 13 or channel 11, but in the midday, they'd run like four or five, six episodes back to back to back.

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I remember sitting home watching that, watching American what was the Love American Style?

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Um Love American style, truer than the red, white, and blue.

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I Love Lucy.

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Yeah. Love American style. Those were like little anthologies, right? Or little like little little short stories each one of like two or three together.

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I think three inside of a of a 30-minute Did they connect or were they independent? Independent.

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Okay.

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Yeah. Not like the Love Boat where everything connected.

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Yeah. No, the love boat was intricate.

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Your dad wasn't on a love boat, was he?

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He never no. He was anti-doing any of those things that talk about. For money. Celebrity type people did and go on Fantasy Island or the Love Boat. Every time somebody's show would get canceled, you'd see them next year on Fantasy Island or the Love Boat.

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I just saw Steve Garvey on Fantasy Island. No. Oh yeah. He hit Oh my God. Uh huh.

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Wait, what were you doing watching Fantasy Island?

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It was a clip somewhere of Steve Garvey.

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Oh, that's so funny.

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Fantasy Island.

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Everybody was on those shows.

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Not everybody. Not Robert Blake.

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Not Robert Blake. He had integrity right up until he started killing people. Can I tell you something funny? Wow. I'll tell you something super funny.

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Yes.

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I rec uh I was shooting last week, and um we were Was it with your nine millimeter? No, I was filming.

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Okay.

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Acting filming. I were we were filming at, you're not gonna believe this, at the Phil Spector house. Really?

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Now for those of you who things happened there.

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Phil Spector, famous uh music producer, you know, famous, famous in his day.

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Infamous.

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And then uh you know, famous also for being one of the Lakers attendees at every game, had big crazy blonde wigs that he used to wear. Anyway, Phil Spector uh murdered, for for lack of a better word, uh a lovely young woman named Lana Clarkson. And this was back in the uh early 2000s uh when celebrity murder was all the rage.

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And everyone was doing it.

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Everyone was doing it. And then uh uh yeah, and I can't I'm pretty sure he got convicted. I I think Phil Spector was the only one that actually was convicted. Um they made a really interesting movie about him and that whole trial with Al Pacino playing Phil Spector, and he was fantastic. Um it was a good movie. But anyway, Lana Clarkson was this young woman, and he lived in this big, giant, crazy mansion in Alhambra, which is you know a good half hour outside LA, you know, depending on traffic, maybe more. But he was pretty notorious for kind of going out to bars and clubs and meeting young women and then like having them come back there in his lumo. And you know, this was back in the days before cell phones and the internet and whatever else. And once you're up there at this mansion, you're kind of there. Uh, and there wasn't Ubers and things like that. You could call Cap, but whatever. Lana Clarkson and him had some sort of relationship, whatever, and he wound up, she wound up that at that house one night, and she found was found dead. They called the cops, whatever. He tried to claim she killed herself. That did not hold up. It was pretty obvious that he did it and he was pretty psycho. Anyway, apparently that house, which if you were alive in those days, you saw that house on the news all over the place, and it was very the imagery of that place was pretty obvious. And now, I guess I don't know if the city owns it or not, but they rented out for as a filming location. So we're shooting there for like four days, and I overhear this conversation. Now, people know who I am and some people don't. Now, my last name's Blake. You know, it's not Coppola or it's a big thing.

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Would you say more people do know you or more people don't in our world. In the entire world.

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In the entire world, more people don't.

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They don't. For sure. Yeah. So billions don't, but some do.

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Yes. Yeah. Blake is not a wildly distinctive name. If my name was Gubitosi, people would be probably more inclined. But they hear the word Blake. It's not like, you know, they don't immediately go, oh, Robert Blake's. Um but in any case, and I obviously don't run around with a You almost said anywho. A tour jacket that says Robert Blake was my dad. Um so anyway, I'm shooting this show and uh Becca.

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Would you say any who? Would you ever say anywho?

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And I've I don't know that I would ever have cause to say that.

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Yeah, I don't think so.

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So we're shooting this show, and everyone's kind of talking about, oh, this is it's a murder this is the murder house. Oh, the murder house, whatever. Now, a lot of people on this crew are younger, and they're like, huh? What's the murder house? And some of the older people, or the more people in the know at least, who have access to the Google, they're like, Oh, this is where This is a conversation that I overhear. I'm ten feet away. Uh, this is where that um that guy, that famous guy shot his wife. Now, first of all, Lana Clarkson was not his wife, right? But they've completely conflated this situation. And they go, This is where that famous guy shot his wife. To which one of the other more learned members in the conversation says, no, no, Robert Blake lived in the valley.

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Oh my god. Really?

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Yeah. And I'm standing 10 feet away.

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Did they know who you were?

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No, they didn't. And I'm just listening to this conversation get more and more confused. And they're like, no, Robert Blake, this wasn't Robert Blake's house. And they're like, well, who murdered their wife? It's like, no, it wasn't his wife. And he goes, no, no, she wasn't Robert Blake's wife. And he goes, no, that's not Robert Blake. This conversation is going completely insane. And I'm standing there. I'm like, should I step in and clarify this? You didn't, did you? I did not. No, I abstained. But I mean, that's kind of the the uh conundrum that is my life. There's this weird knowledge of my my history and my family that is out there that is frequently uh misconstrued and whatnot. No, I did not want to bring attention to the fact that they were more or less talking about my family, uh, because that would have probably made for an awkward rest of the shoot. Although a couple people did do did know who I was and did know, oh, this is that other guy who did that. Um but these other these other folks, it was just so funny. This is where that famous guy murdered his wife. No, Robert Blake lived in the valley. I'll tell you what.

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So confusing in our little podcast studio or our podcast room, once again, brought to us by our friends at Rowie Teen and Parent Wellness Centers with more than 30 locations now throughout Southern California. Amazing. In our current studio that you and I are in, I believe there's only one of us that has been interviewed by Larry King. I don't believe if I I can't really recall, but I don't think one of them was me.

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One of them was not you, which kind of just by deductive logic would say that it was more than likely me.

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Aaron Ross Powell You met Larry King and sat with Larry King.

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I sat with the great Larry King, the iron horse of broadcasting.

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Trevor Burrus What was that? The circumstances weren't great, but No, they weren't.

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And I was sitting there not so super much by choice, and I was kind of What do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Well what does that mean? Not by choice.

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Aaron Ross Powell Well, I was there to promote a narrative, so to speak. Okay. It was not a no agenda, it was genda.

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You were not part of the equation. It was just me.

SPEAKER_04 24:58

Yeah. And um which was has never really kind of been my uh what's the what's the word? My my lane. Uh and so I felt a little awkward because I it was a moment where I was like, well, if I am I being perfectly honest in this interview and being candid, or am I here to promote a narrative? And mostly it was that.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

The narrative.

SPEAKER_04 25:25

Yeah. And so I felt very unnatural. Well, I have to ask unnatural.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

I have to ask, because I am an interviewer now with uh with a worldwide platform. You are let me ask you a question, Noah.

SPEAKER_04 25:35

I probably won't answer. For various reasons.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

Okay. Yeah. I will let you decide. Okay. Who asked you to do the narrative?

SPEAKER_04 25:44

Um Yeah, these are hard-hitting. Well, Larry.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

Um it was a um Altuna, hold on. There was the one Altuna? Altuna, yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Hold on.

SPEAKER_04 26:03

There was a conclave of people uh helping make decisions of who was or wasn't going to do what. There were there were attorneys, there were this, there were that, there was certainly my father, and everyone was sort of trying to figure out what's the best approach that everyone can and should take in this for you know the the ultimate best uh outcome. But I've never sort of been one that liked to do that sort of thing. I'm uh as as all our gender listeners know, I'm a straight shooter. I shoot from the hip. I tell it like it is.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

The straightest.

SPEAKER_04 26:38

I don't bullshit around. But anyway, so I had to say weird things like uh I do remember in that interview, first of all, Larry King is so oblivious. Like he asks his questions and he doesn't really even know or care what you're answering. He just watches until you stop talking, and then he's gonna ask the next question. And I could, I could have little said, I could have literally been like, well, you know, Larry, I do know what happened because I was there. It was actually me. I was the one who threw the gun away, and he'd have gone, okay. And does your father ever go to like, did you hear what I just said, Larry?

SPEAKER_01 27:07

So he was no Barbara Walters.

SPEAKER_04 27:09

He was no Baba Wawa. He's definitely in his own lane. And um, you know, I I I said something, uh, but he asked me something, and I said, you know, do you believe your father's innocent? And I just said something that was that I had pre-planned to say, which was going. What?

SPEAKER_01 27:30

You had said something about a there was a gun, an odd ref no? Not in that.

SPEAKER_04 27:37

I mean, what I said in the entirety of the interview, I'm not sure. I honestly don't recall because I I do remember like maybe two specific things, one of which was I remember saying, I know he's gonna ask me this, and how can I answer it and still have my conscience feel okay, because I'm a reasonable person. And I was was it was obvious that a lot of signs were pointing to him. Now, by murder trial signs, there was very little that was provable. And I think that there was a terrible mistake made in the legal world. But I remember him saying, you know, did you did your father do this? As if I would say, you know what, Larry, he did. Yes, I gotta be honest. Let's say let's clear this up right now. We can do, we can save time and trouble with the trial and all. But I said, Well, look, Larry, uh it's not my belief about this. He is innocent. That is how our system works. You are innocent until proven guilty. He has not been proven guilty, not even by a s a stretch of imagination. So we have to assume that that's how the legal system works and there is a burden of proof. And until that time, you are innocent. And that's kind of how I could live with answering that question and not being like, let's throw my dad under the bus, or let's sound like I am oblivious to the situation. And I never really liked that. So when I walked away from that, I kind of was like, I think I'm not gonna do any more of these interviews because I don't really know what the right course is for me to because I still have to walk around every day and live my life. And back to that.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

What a tough situation. Not to be serious, because I I don't like that part of hosting a worldwide podcast. But but what a what a situation for you to be in, seriously, as a son.

SPEAKER_04 29:23

It was it was uh nothing I would wish on anybody. And it's funny because you know, when we started this, and quite, you know, coincidentally, and we were talking about back in those days when something would happen, the level of notoriety that it would take was beyond what people can really comprehend now.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 29:41

But like nobody now I think could really understand. If if somebody murdered anyone today, no matter who it was, it would be a story. But uh hours later or days later, Trump would tweet something or he started a war and that would be it. It would be moving on. But when that event occurred, it was just like OJ was, it was worldwide. It was the lead story in the news for the next year and a half. Every monologue, every Fallon Carson, whoever was the host at those moments, every night. They were like, Oh, Robert Blake today, and so I'm sitting there for years, literally watching the world have all this commentary and feeling like I had no idea what the fuck I was supposed to do. And there really was no precedent of how to handle that. And so I kind of just tried to just stay to myself. It was a disaster. It was a disaster. And then I think I told you, I at the end of it all, I kind of had a nervous breakdown.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

No, uh oh yeah. Like a real one?

SPEAKER_04 30:46

A real one. And I didn't know what happened. I didn't not I didn't know what a nervous breakdown was. I just I thought I was dying because all of a sudden I had this weird episode in the gym where I started like getting tunnel vision and broke out in this cold sweat. And this was after I think over six years, because from the time the murder happened, which was when I I I think it was two early 2001.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

I would have said nineties.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

No, no, no, this is early 2001. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 31:14

And um uh yeah, it was either 2000 or 2001. Um because I remember distinctly, distinctly that when 9-11 happened, obviously it was c catastrophic and everyone panicked and it was a total freak out. But like a week later, and that was still the only thing anyone was talking about, and there was a little part of me that was relieved because my dad was no longer the lead story every night.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 31:46

Like, obviously, relatively speaking, but for me personally, something good came out of 9-11. Like for me, for me, a little bit, yeah. And I mean I mean that in all sincerity, and I'm I'm not like because I did not realize how fucking freaked out and stressed out I had become because I was just kind of always that guy who could just handle shit, and this was more than I could deal with. And then, like I said, when the final, final, last trial was finally over, that's when my whole system gave way. And we'll tell that story another time, maybe, but that was uh a two-year recovery process. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:21

Thought I was dying, thought I was dying. Did not know that. Yeah, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep for weeks and weeks. Went to doctors and they're like testing me, testing me, testing me. And I'm like, oh, you don't really see anything. And then one doctor literally was like, he goes, Noah Blake. He goes, um You're Noah Blake. I go, yeah. He goes, your uh father's Robert Blake? I go, uh-huh. He goes, uh I think this might be a psychological issue right now that we're dealing with. You should see a psychiatrist, something else. Anyway, we've got things to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

Yeah, I want to jump into our 45 minutes in. I want to jump into something.

SPEAKER_04 33:00

Please. Wait, we got notes. Do you want to jump into one of the notes? Uh yeah. Okay, because I I'm gonna start. Can I start? Can I just say what the notes were? Can I just start? I like reading the notes.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

Can I just start?

SPEAKER_04 33:12

Notes.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Notes, go.

SPEAKER_04 33:13

Urinals?

SPEAKER_01 33:14

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 33:14

Apologies. Yep. Are are they one and the same or are they two separate items?

SPEAKER_01 33:19

They can be, but they're not. In this case, they're not. They're separate.

SPEAKER_04 33:22

Okay. Which one would you like to address?

SPEAKER_01 33:24

Apologies.

SPEAKER_00 33:24

I was hoping it was gonna be urinals.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

No.

SPEAKER_00 33:26

All right, let's do apologies. Apologies, ready? You this is difficult.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

It's difficult to say. I didn't uh did I need to apologize for something? You you owe our vast worldwide audience an apology.

SPEAKER_05 33:42

Oh Jesus, what have I done? What did I what did I what did I do?

SPEAKER_01 33:47

You did something that you should not feel good about that you did. I didn't but you did it, and it's out there.

SPEAKER_04 33:56

I did it or I said it.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Yes. Jesus. You said it. I said it. Oh yeah. And you were you were give me a word. Was I drunk? Adamant. You were no you don't drink. I was just hoping. No. No. I think you were you're on lithium. Okay. Nobody takes lithium anymore.

SPEAKER_04 34:16

I was apparently I was wrong about something.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

Horribly wrong. Yes, you were. Ready? Yep. You were wrong about the following very well, one, you're very adamant, and two, wrong. I didn't agree with your adamacy. Okay. By the way.

SPEAKER_05 34:32

All right.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

Three weeks ago, the Lakers were beginning their first round series playoff series versus Houston Astros. Or Rockets, even.

SPEAKER_04 34:43

Look how wrong you just went.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

They didn't apologize right now. And I was adamant about the Astros. That the Lakers are going to get swept. They have no chance. They're awful.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

No, I didn't say they were a joke of a team. You might have. Can we play back the tape? Jimmy.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

If memory serves, because it was you know, we live in the now and then era, but I believe they were up 3-0 in the series, lost the next two games, and won the sixth game. Correct. Won the series 4-2. Correct. Hence the apology.

SPEAKER_04 35:14

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Yes. I would like to apologize to everyone in Lakeland as they are now in the process of being swept by OKC.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 35:24

But I don't remember the exact um uh I don't know exactly what I did or didn't say, but I'll take your word for it, which is probably my first mistake. But I did think that going into that series, they they were going to be annihilated by Houston because Houston was all the things that the Lakers are not. Now, in fairness to me, I I did not realize, I had no idea that Kevin Durant was not playing. I was under the full assumption that they were healthy and that they were good. Now, in the one game he did play, he did not at all look like himself. That was not the KD that we are used to seeing.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

No, he was dressed up in a bunny suit.

SPEAKER_04 36:09

Yeah, he was, which was a weird, weird choice. They let him play. You'd think someone would have said something. But yeah, no, he just looked didn't look like himself. Well, I mean, he didn't play game one. He played game two and looked terrible and then did not return in the series. So obviously they tried to trot him out there and he was not ready to go. Um now I do believe that had a healthy KD been involved in this, I I I think I would have stood by what I said.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

But uh but if we had a healthy Luca, too.

SPEAKER_04 36:39

Which I knew we didn't have. Exactly. And uh so I figured if we're down Luca and and Reeves, uh we're fucked. And I did not assume that they would be down there by far, by far best player. Um so yeah, I will uh I'll take the L on that one. I'll take the L. Um, but I think if I'd have been informed, um if I'd have known Durant? Did anybody know that he just was a a scratch for the series?

SPEAKER_01 37:05

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_04 37:06

Because I didn't hear that until like the day before it started. Oh, Kevin Durant's not gonna play. I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_01 37:12

I didn't know he was hurt.

SPEAKER_04 37:13

Um so yeah, that uh I think a lot of people might have not known because the odds for Houston winning were way, way high.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Maybe if we did our proper show trap research, yeah, we'd know stuff.

SPEAKER_04 37:28

You know, our RD team has been shirking lately. And uh but yeah, no, I I I was I was pleasantly surprised. Um I don't I think it was, you know, uh fortunate for us that Kevin Durant wasn't playing, and uh they they did win a series, and that's all good news. Um but god, what's gonna happen in these next three games against OKC is gonna be an abomination.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

So you're not a wagering man, right?

SPEAKER_04 37:52

Uh not not unless it's uh poker.

SPEAKER_01 37:55

Do you know the spread on the first game of the of the series?

SPEAKER_04 37:58

I think it was like fifteen.

SPEAKER_01 37:59

It was fifteen and a half points. Yeah. And they covered. Oklahoma City covered. They won it by eighteen. Okay. Fifteen and a half for a regular season game is a ton, a ton of points. Yeah. But for a playoff series, it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04 38:12

I believe, I believe I heard learned sportscasters say that it was the biggest uh spread against a LeBron James team in playoff history. Aaron Powell Oh, it has to be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

Yeah. Um and in all playoffs, it has to be one of the biggest.

SPEAKER_04 38:27

It's it's up there. I mean I think back in the day when the Lakers were just steamrolling everybody. I I remember some pretty wide spreads on that. When they went through that one championship run, I think they lost that one game tonight.

SPEAKER_01 38:40

I did not wager back then. No. Unlike you, I did not have the I didn't have the addiction. Um but we have three more games against drugs. Tonight we have game two.

SPEAKER_04 38:51

Okay, here's a here's a quick trivia quote, ready?

SPEAKER_01 38:53

I like trivia quote.

SPEAKER_04 38:54

What's this from? Old show, 70s show.

SPEAKER_03 38:56

Give me drugs, gimme drugs, gimme drugs one more time.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

What was the line?

SPEAKER_03 39:08

Give me drugs, give me drugs.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

All right. I'll go with room 222.

SPEAKER_03 39:14

Nah, you're in the ballpark.

SPEAKER_01 39:16

Mission impossible. Colder. Back to room 222.

SPEAKER_04 39:20

Warmer.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

Not Beretta.

SPEAKER_04 39:23

Colder.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

But close to room 222. Warmer. The line was I need drugs, right?

SPEAKER_03 39:29

Gimme drugs.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

Give me drugs. See? Give me drugs.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

Give me drugs.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Give me drugs.

SPEAKER_03 39:33

Give me drugs.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

That's how he said it? Yeah. Exactly. It's a heat. Yes. Room 222 is the is the hint.

SPEAKER_04 39:40

It's warm. It's uh I'm gonna go ahead and help you out. Yep. Welcome back, Cotter. Wow. Vinny Barbarino. When did he say give me drugs? They were there was some episode where they were trying to say that what he did something. They were trying to show someone that all the sweat hogs were like really problem kids so they could get a grant for money or something. So Barbarino pretended to be a drug addict and just walked around going, give me drugs, give me drugs.

SPEAKER_01 40:09

Remember principal's name? Uh yes. Woodman. Woodman. Was it Woodman? Yep. Nice. Mr. Woodman. What was what Julie, his wife. His Julie, his wife, yeah. Yeah. Do you remember the the opening? He always had a good joke.

SPEAKER_04 40:25

Oh, he would do a joke to his wife. To his wife.

SPEAKER_01 40:27

Yeah, yeah. What was the one about Boobs and the Hindenburg? Jesus. I have no idea. Or the Hindenburg's called, the Germans called, give us back our blimps. No. There was one that I can't do because it was uh it was more acting with his hand. Do you remember that one? I'm I'm making a circle with my hand, like wipe off.

SPEAKER_04 40:51

No. Do you remember this? Or you don't you're just like Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

I do. I do. I don't know. Oh, I want to ask you something. Go ahead. I like questions. No.

SPEAKER_05 41:00

No, we'll do that the wipe off thing.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

The wipe off. He's following a car and the driver puts out their left hand. That's when people used to use their hands to turn signals. Puts out their left hand to turn left and he thinks he's going to turn left. And then he puts it down to turn right. Or to stop up to go right. Up is what? Up is right. Okay. So he puts it up to go right and then quickly changes it to go left. And then puts it down to stop and then makes a circle like the wipe off, like from karate cake. And finally Gabe Kaplan pulls over the car and goes, What the hell are you doing? He goes, Well, I thought I was going to turn right. Then I was going to turn left, then maybe I was going to stop. But then I thought, no, I'm just going to wipe it all off. That was the whole joke. That's ridiculous. Anyway, erase it all.

SPEAKER_04 41:57

Okay. Can I tell you something? Gio is really into jokes now.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

Really?

SPEAKER_04 42:02

He's a four-year-old. And he has impeccable timing.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

Did he learn them at the keg party?

SPEAKER_04 42:08

I don't know, dude, but like it's unreal. He understands timing. He's known it since he was a baby. I this is gonna sound insane, but like he used to do peekaboo. He would do it, not us. He would take the blanket, pull it up over his face, and wait for us to like lose our minds. And you could hear him under there breathing, going, heh, heh, heh. And he'd wait and he'd wait, and at the right moment he'd pull it down, and my wife and I would just fall apart, and he just figured this out. Anyway, here's his he's really into knock-knock jokes. He's writing them himself now.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

That's at four.

SPEAKER_04 42:48

Yes. He we taught him like two or three, and now he comes up with them. I'm going to give you one of Gio's knock-knock jokes. Knock-knock. Who's there? Interrupting fart.

SPEAKER_01 42:59

Interrupting fart?

SPEAKER_04 43:03

He came up with that?

SPEAKER_01 43:04

He did that. That's brilliant.

SPEAKER_04 43:07

He did that to me last week, and I fucking fell over.

SPEAKER_01 43:11

That is brilliant. Who was it that used to interview kids?

SPEAKER_04 43:17

Oh, yeah. It was great. It was uh Alan Funt. Alan Funt uh on uh Candid Camera.

SPEAKER_01 43:23

Yes, that would be a great joke on Alan Funt.

SPEAKER_04 43:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

I mean Hey, do you have any jokes for me, kid? Sure, Mr. Funt.

SPEAKER_04 43:31

I mean, I I he goes, Daddy, I've got a new joke for you. I'm like, okay, whatever. And I was like, I I I lost. I go, did Gio, did you hear that somewhere? Did you come on? He goes, he goes, No, it's mine. I wrote it. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01 43:50

You know what you need to do. Interrupting fart.

SPEAKER_04 43:53

I'm gonna take him to an open mic.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

No, you know what you need to do? Record them all. Like each joke. We're gonna make an interrupt. Instagram or TikTok page Geo's jokes. That's a good idea. Jokes by Geo. Jokes by Geo. And quickly uh ten second. Ten second little blurb.

SPEAKER_02 44:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Seriously. He he could go what's it? Vitriol.

SPEAKER_04 44:12

No, that's me.

SPEAKER_01 44:14

He could go viral with that. Jokes by Geo.

SPEAKER_04 44:17

It's pretty funny. I mean, I've never heard well, a four-year-old now, but I've never heard a three-year-old. Like the concept of the joke, first of all, is amazing. And his understanding of when to do the sound exactly, I was I was fucking flabbergassed.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

He gets that from Allie's side of the family. Pretty much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:38

Not me. Um you're gonna ask me a question. Oh, I was gonna ask you, yeah, but I had other ones too, but then I was like, um, I wanted to ask you some Jew questions.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

That's me. I'm the Jew go-to.

SPEAKER_04 44:50

Yeah. So you were like bar well, you were bar mitzvah in the whole thing, right? You did all that stuff. I was your sister was bot mitzvah's botz bot and barred. Bot mitzvah's I was barred. Bot mitzvud. Ooh, that's a tricky one. Bot mitzvud. Okay. Um, so okay. So and your kids, did you did you do all the stuff with them? Did you were they barred? Your son. That's weird. Did you all that weird stuff?

SPEAKER_01 45:19

I didn't have keg parties on when they were four, like you.

SPEAKER_04 45:22

I can see the writing on the wall. Did you bar mitzvah your son? He got bar mitzvah.

SPEAKER_01 45:28

Her daughter got bot. They both did.

SPEAKER_04 45:30

Okay. So and is your is is wife Michelle Jewish?

SPEAKER_01 45:34

She's Jewish.

SPEAKER_04 45:35

Well, what she was Jewish before she was with you. Yes. She was she was two Jews came together.

SPEAKER_01 45:40

Born a Jew.

SPEAKER_04 45:41

Born a Jew, raised a Jew. Okay. Did you ever give consideration to not? I mean, but you don't like really go to temple and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 45:50

Yep. You do go? Do or did. You said did. Did or did? Well, which one? You went? I went? Regularly.

SPEAKER_04 45:58

As an adult. No. So then why go? But then why if if as an adult you were able to kind of go, yeah, let's don't really need to keep doing this. Then why make put the kids through it?

SPEAKER_01 46:10

We did it for two reasons. One.

SPEAKER_04 46:13

Legal so they could stay in the country?

SPEAKER_01 46:16

Okay. Three. No, the the main reason was to build up their their 529 accounts. The great parties we held. Yeah. Why did we do it? Tradition. Just tradition. We did it for tradition. Okay. And and my daughter has stayed into the Jewish stayed into, stayed with her Jewish community. She's still in it. Okay. Twenty-six years old. She works in a Jewish school. Okay. Teacher at a Jewish school. Okay. Um she is all things Jew. All things. Yes. Our son kind of left. That's funny. Our son had the bar mitzvah and then.

SPEAKER_04 46:55

Is she is she in fact a a Kugel?

unknown 47:02

She is.

SPEAKER_04 47:02

Because I think that's the Jewish food imaginable. Kugel. A Kugel.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

She was not a Kogle.

SPEAKER_04 47:09

Okay. So and your son not so much?

SPEAKER_01 47:11

No. If I remember, he got bar mitzvah at 13, because that's when the standard the standard age. In fact, my wife didn't get bar mitzvah until roughly 50. Wait, what? Yep. You can do that later in life.

SPEAKER_04 47:24

Why?

SPEAKER_01 47:27

Okay. Yeah, you can do it whenever you want.

SPEAKER_04 47:28

But her but her parents didn't want her to have it.

SPEAKER_01 47:30

My mom did the same, in fact. My mom my mom was probably 50, 55.

SPEAKER_04 47:35

What would be the point of doing it at that point?

SPEAKER_01 47:37

Again, the party.

unknown 47:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

If there's one thing Jews know. Good party.

SPEAKER_04 47:43

Okay. All right. So so your son kind of not not in the.

SPEAKER_01 47:48

No, he's not.

SPEAKER_04 47:49

He's banging shices, is that how we say it? I hope. In in the parlance.

SPEAKER_01 47:53

I hope so.

SPEAKER_04 47:54

Okay. If he marries a non-Jew, are you all going to be okay with it?

SPEAKER_01 47:56

Perfectly fine. As long as she changes.

SPEAKER_04 48:00

As long as she picks a new god.

unknown 48:04

Right.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

As long as she changes all her ideals. Yes. We would be fine with it.

SPEAKER_04 48:10

Okay. And they can have their little fat non-Jew kids.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

His three long-term girlfriends have not have all been non-Jew.

SPEAKER_04 48:17

Okay. All right. Well, that that's interesting. Because I've just been, you know, well, because Allie is, you know, Jewish for sure. Is she though?

SPEAKER_01 48:24

Is she butt mitzwood?

SPEAKER_04 48:25

She's the whole banana. Her sister's a uh what do you call it? A cantor. Really? Yeah. Her parents are thinking about Geo, huh? Well, yeah. And like, you know, I I'm, you know, and I like we do we did like Passover, we kind of, you know, do a little bit of stuff and things like that. And um, but you know, my wife likes to read the stories and stuff. Um that's at Passover, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The Seder and all like that. What stories? Well, the Jews did stories of like, you know, Pharaoh did this, and then there was ten days of plagues, and then Moses took all the Jews, and they ran out of Egypt, and the seas parted, and they all got out of there, and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

See, we we vary from that. We do to kill a mockingbird. Read the entire book. That's that's our gospel. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_04 49:17

That's funny. But like, no, I mean you read you read read the stories and stuff like that. Of course, yes.

SPEAKER_01 49:22

Same ones over and over.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

And that's where, like, here's my thing. Like of a lot of the religions, I would say Judaism philosophically, I'm kind of I I get a lot of it. A lot of it is about, you know, it's not really so much about praying to God and asking for forgiving, it's more really along the lines of being a decent human being. Uh and, you know, take, you know, embracing all peoples and and sort of again, like I said, it's not it doesn't seem it doesn't seem as dogmatic to me as a lot of other religions.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 49:55

But when you get into that aspect of it and that quote unquote historical stuff, I'm like, that's just ridiculous. These stories are ridiculous. And I don't want to teach them to my son as though they are truth. Like the fact that, you know, Moses kept saying to Pharaoh, oh, let the Jews go, and Pharaoh was like, no, fuck you. And he said, please let them go, no, fuck you. And, you know, I understand that historically it is, it does seem like that there was this enslavement of Jewish peoples, and they were, you know, uh a slave culture, so to speak, in Egypt. But the way that it all unraveled is so ridiculous that you know, Moses, that that the plagues started happening, and they were able to convince the Pharaoh that it's only because the Jews are enslaved, and Pharaoh finally went, Well, I better unslave them so that we can get rid of all these plagues. And that at that moment, Moses was like, Let's get the fuck out of here. Come on, everyone, and like every Jew ran with Moses, and they got to a point where they couldn't keep going unless the ocean parted, which it did. It did. Right. Fortunately, and every Jew in Egypt ran across to the other side, and then they lived wherever that was.

SPEAKER_01 51:10

Uh all for one. One for all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:14

Yeah. And and like no Jews were still in Egypt anymore. Like all the entirety of Jewish culture had gone across this.

SPEAKER_01 51:21

It was no Jew left behind. No Jew left behind behind.

SPEAKER_04 51:24

So yes. So and that that's where I like, I'm like, ah, I don't want to teach these things to him.

SPEAKER_01 51:31

Can I refute? Can I refute a bit?

SPEAKER_04 51:33

Oh please, refute.

SPEAKER_01 51:35

Jane, you ignorant. Um but if you say that about the Jewish stories, can't you just say that about every everything written in the Bible?

SPEAKER_04 51:45

I do say that. That's why I don't listen to any of that shit. Okay. Well, that's fair then. Yeah. Okay. But that's the problem, is with Judaism, like I've said so many times, this it's the only religion that is also a nationality andor bloodline. Jewish bloodlines is genetically a thing, just like Italian or any or Chinese or anything else. But Jewishness is one in the same, a bloodline and a religion. Italian is not a religion. It is simply a nationality.

SPEAKER_01 52:22

But what do you have a problem with, though?

SPEAKER_04 52:24

Because there is a confusion because I'm Jewish, technically, but I don't have any of the religious predilections.

SPEAKER_01 52:32

But that's because your parents didn't put them upon you.

SPEAKER_04 52:36

No, my mom sort of did. But as I got older, I'm like, eh, this is the same way.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

Well, you weren't Bart Mitzfood.

SPEAKER_04 52:40

I was not Bart Mitzvah.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

Have you ever been to a temple?

SPEAKER_04 52:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 52:43

You have? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:44

Services? I had tons of Jewish friends.

SPEAKER_01 52:46

No, no, no. I mean services. Have you ever gone to like a Friday night service? Yes. Because? Well, because my wife's Jewish. Oh, you've gone with No, no, no. I'm talking about growing up.

SPEAKER_04 52:55

Yeah, back in the day I did.

SPEAKER_01 52:56

You did?

SPEAKER_04 52:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:58

With mom.

SPEAKER_04 52:59

No. Like I said, I had friends that were Jewish, and every once in a while, and maybe probably my mom, like, oh, we're going to go do this thing with so the so-and-so's, the Feldmans, or whoever.

SPEAKER_01 53:08

But your dad didn't. No, God, no. Right. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 53:12

No. I think the temple would have exploded had he walked through the door.

SPEAKER_01 53:17

But I'm I'm I guess I'm I'm I'm afoot. Uh I'm having trouble understanding your your issue, though, with Judaism.

SPEAKER_04 53:29

Aaron Ross Powell Well, yeah, because I don't want to like deny that I'm Jewish, but as soon as I say I'm Jewish, people go, oh, were you this? Did you that? And I go, no, no, no, no. Well, they go, though, well, that's you know, that's be if you're Jewish and you don't do this, I go, I I recognize my genetic heritage, but I don't prescribe to any of the religion. Okay. And that confuses people.

SPEAKER_01 53:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 53:53

But it goes back to what I'm going to be willing to teach my son.

SPEAKER_01 53:59

I'm I'm reformed. Reformed Judaism. Yes. Okay. That's like the lowest level Jew. Right. Entry-level Jew.

SPEAKER_04 54:07

It's mostly just clerical work.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

I am a new Toyota Tracell without air conditioning. Okay. I have an eight-track tape. Nice. Um to a conservative Jew, I'm not really a Jew.

SPEAKER_00 54:22

Right. You're talking about the ones with the ringlets and the whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 54:27

Yeah. You can only be a Jew in their eyes if you if you're all in. Right. Trevor Burrus, So there are different levels. I'm still Jewish. I don't I don't go to temple every week. Right. Ever. I don't go to high holidays anymore. Okay. But I still identify as Jewish. Right. And I'm not going to change unless there's a gun to my head.

unknown 54:47

Right.

SPEAKER_01 54:47

Then I can then I could be persuaded. Right. Or money. Trevor Burrus All right, listen, Mr.

SPEAKER_04 54:51

Wexler. No, it's Waxer. You've got me all wrong.

SPEAKER_01 54:58

Do you know, you know a coach high-level high school basketball, right?

unknown 55:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

There's a couple schools out here that I have been asked to coach by families there.

SPEAKER_04 55:10

Jewish families.

SPEAKER_01 55:11

No, no, no, no. Oh. I cannot coach at a Christian high school. Really? You cannot be Jewish. Let me be. Now see that's say fuck religious. Let me be more specific. Well, I said it the wrong way. Okay. You must be Christian to coach at a Christian school.

SPEAKER_04 55:33

Can't be Jewish. Yes. Well, that's why Christianity.

SPEAKER_01 55:37

But you can't be Hindu either.

SPEAKER_04 55:41

Oh, I'm with you on that. No, thank you. I'm with you. Thank you, but no thank you. That's insane. I totally agree. That is an insane line of thinking to me. They're missing out on possibly one of the ten greatest basketball coaches in the Canado Valley.

SPEAKER_01 56:02

Jewish. Trevor Burrus For four years I coached at a Catholic girls' school. That's true.

SPEAKER_04 56:07

Trevor Burrus, How'd you get away with that?

SPEAKER_01 56:09

Steve Washington.

SPEAKER_04 56:12

Did they think a black guy was going to show up?

SPEAKER_01 56:14

And they're like, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_04 56:16

Freddy Boom Boom? Didn't you tell people that? You're like, my great-grandson was Freddie Boom Boom Washington.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

It was Frederick B.B. No, I coached there for four years. That's vars varsity basketball.

SPEAKER_05 56:30

Did did they know about you?

SPEAKER_01 56:33

In fact, a very quick, somewhat witty story. It was probably my third year doing that, coaching. And I I think it was pre-practice, and the girls were all in a huddle, like just talking as girls do. And I heard like more like um all I heard was like little voices. And finally, the the her name was Jessica. She comes over to me like really sheepishly and says, Coach, I have a question for you. Are you circumcised? So many jokes there. Not a good question. My God, they knew that already.

SPEAKER_03 57:15

Did they have a co-head locker room?

SPEAKER_01 57:18

Nope.

SPEAKER_03 57:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 57:20

They said, Coach, are you Jewish? And I said, Well, yes, Jessica, I am. She's jumping up and down going, I told you he's a Jew, I told you he's a Jew. Swear that's a true story. I swear to God, that's a true story.

SPEAKER_00 57:35

I told you he's a Jew. He's a Jew. I told you he's a Jew. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01 57:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 57:40

And you continued coaching for how long after that?

SPEAKER_01 57:43

They allowed me one more week.

unknown 57:45

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_04 57:47

Wow. You would think that these children out here would be a little bit more culturally advanced than the other.

SPEAKER_01 57:56

And their parents were not either. They were not accepting to me.

SPEAKER_04 58:00

At least you didn't say, I told you he's a dirty Jew.

SPEAKER_01 58:03

That would have been Oh my God. That's crazy. I have a question for you. These were high school kids. These weren't like children. High school. Yeah, juniors and seniors. That's wild. I have a question for you. Please. I heard well, via your text. Oh, yeah. That you, Noah, almost got into a fight at Ralph's grocery store supermarket. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:26

Noah, tell us what happened. I was in line and you know, I don't know if you shop at Ralph's, but they have they have these things called digital deals. Yeah, yeah, of course. Which are really, really significant on a lot of products. I mean, if if in fact some of those things are the things you want, like sometimes they'll have like the pasture-raised eggs, and instead of $13, you know, they're like $7 or $6. I'm like, there's like half price, but it's this digital thing.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

You hold your phone up to it. Yes. And you basically sign in and a lot of times my when you check out the cashier notice or knows that you've already got the deal.

SPEAKER_04 59:02

Yes. Yep. I have a problem because my card, my Ralph's card and my digital thing on my phone are somehow not linked over to the right thing. Yes. Well, your Ralph's club card thing, whatever. You just give him a phone number, no? My phone number and my card and my digital thing are not the same. So I need to get a new card.

SPEAKER_00 59:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:21

But I've been kind of, you know, finagling my way through this issue at the checkout stand.

SPEAKER_01 59:28

Yes. Welcome back.

SPEAKER_04 59:31

Welcome back. Um so I usually when I get to the thing, I tell the thing, I tell the cash like, hey, my phone's not my card, so I'm going to run the card first, and then can you please do the digital thing? And usually it works out. The other day it did not work out. She's like, nothing's going through. Your card's not going through. Your phone's not going through. And she's trying to charge me like full price on all this stuff. And it's like it's a $30 or $40 spread between like whatever. I'm like, well, no, hold on. I this is for sure I got to be. Well, we can't find this and that and the other thing. Now, at this particular Ralph's, they don't have a lot of checkout stands that are usually functional. There's like nine of them. There's usually only one to two that are operable. The rest are just ghost hands. Yes, they do have self because most people use it. That's why the checkout people are few and far between. It's like the old West, just tumbleweeds are blowing through these other checkout stands. You know, there's a little three-legged dog running past one of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:39

We're serving sarsaparilla. Fresh sarsaparilla.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:43

So anyway. Um yeah, just broken swinging doors with a little wood dangling, broken off.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:53

We call this ghost house. Saloon doors. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:55

And so anyway, I'm in the one line and uh this thing's happening, and I can feel the guy behind me starting to freak out. And he's freaking out more and more and more.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

How many people are behind you?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:07

I don't know. There's probably like two more behind him. And I'm like, I don't want to be that guy, but I got a fucking situation. I'm like, you know, I can't help it if Ralph's technology is fucking up right now. So I'm like, what? Look, can you please just get a manager? Because I've done this a hundred times at work. So we just got to start from square one or something. And she's like, Well, there's no one available right now. But and now this guy pipes up. He's like, Jesus Christ, man, come on.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:32

And I had just Well, set the stage a little bit. Old guy, young guy, big guy, little guy?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:37

Uh medium-sized guy, older guy. I mean, you know, somewhere in our age range, a little younger, probably not older.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:46

Um, are you confident you could take him if if fisticuffs broke out?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:51

I mean, unless he had a whole lot of training, yeah, I think I think I'd probably be fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:55

Um He was pretty good size, but were you carrying your nunchucks?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:00

I was not carrying, I don't know how to use those, I'll be honest with you.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:03

Did you have a bow and arrow?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:05

I I did have a quiver on my back. Um not to say that I was shaking, but no. Uh so anyway, yeah, he's like, you know, he's he's a little bigger than me, um, but a little portly. And, you know, he's just like starting to fume. And I go, hey, I go, just give me a minute here. I'm trying to figure this out. I'm sorry if you're in a hurry, but just whatever. He's like, you know, he starts getting more mouthy. He's like, you know, fucking I'm like, I go, hey, I'm trying to get this handled. I'm doing my best. It's not my fault. The last thing I said was, I'm doing my best I can here. And he goes, You better be. Oh, geez. And that fucking set me off. And I said, like, what the fuck does that mean? I better be. And he goes, You heard me. I go, yeah. And I'm trying to ask for clarification. What do you mean I better be? What's gonna happen? What are you gonna do? And now he starts like getting all like red faced. And I just I was I don't know what was going on. I was literally at the end of my 62-hour fast, and I was buying some stuff to go home and make food. So I was a little bit like in a in a weird mindset anyway. And I basically just like squared off. I thought this guy was gonna throw, and I kind of just got in my stance. Really? And I was like, if he does. Well, one, you have a stance? Yeah, I you know I'm a martial arts guy. Oh, yeah. So I felt like, okay, this could actually happen right now. And in ordinary, I you know, I don't want to ever get into that kind of altercation. But this guy just was so rude and so fucking loud. Wow. And I was really trying to keep a lid on it. But then when he said, you better be, I don't know what happened. I don't know. I just something triggered in my amygdala brain, like my father or something. And that's when I like turned fully to him and like and I let him know in no uncertain terms. I was like, this is not gonna go the way you want to. And then I then I started getting like, I'll fucking stay here all day. I'm like, I'll fucking call the manager now and I'll wait here another 20 minutes. What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:13

Did you say that?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:14

I don't remember what I said. I kind of just saw red at that point. And I knew, like I said, at that point I just turned to him because I was kind of side-eyeing him the whole time. And once he said that, I like turned you know fully sideways, like my foot forward, and I was like looking at him, and I thought, okay, well, if he does anything, I know exactly what I'm gonna do. I am gonna just what? Well, I honestly in in a millisecond my brain just processed the whole thing of how he was standing and what would what the confines of the situation. I'm like, if he takes even a step forward, I I had a perfect right hand and I was just gonna fucking drop him.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:50

Were you gonna put him into the turnbuckle?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:52

I was gonna knock him out. I was gonna do. And I just I I once I assessed that and I was just kind of waiting, and I think he something so there's weird things that happen to people. Something in him knew in that moment that whatever he thought he was gonna do to intimidate me wasn't going to work the way he had planned. And then his next thing was, look, man, I'll pay the difference.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

He said it?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:18

The $30 or $40.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:19

Yeah. And I go, and I said, I don't know what the difference is. And that's one of the problems here. And I'm trying to get that straightened out. And then he just kind of got quiet and didn't respond anymore. And then I turned back, and then I realized, okay, he's not gonna do anything. He just got all red-faced and whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:36

And he whimpered away.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:37

He just stood there at that point, and I just kind of figured, okay, this is nothing's gonna happen. And I just said, and I at that point I didn't want to fucking deal with it anymore. And so she the woman ran a different card, like their in-house card, and uh, you know, so that gave me what part of the discount, whatever. And I just said, Fuck it, all right, let me just pay for this and just move on because I don't I don't want to be here any longer. And then I just Took my stuff and walked out. But I did say to him at one point, because this is funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:04

You breathe your last breath.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:06

Yeah. Said, this is the last checkout line you're ever going to be in, motherfucker. I hope you got everything you need. Uh in that voice. Um, no, the guy literally had five items. Like he literally had like a can of a bottle of Coca-Cola, like a liter of Coca-Cola, a loaf of bread, and like two other things. And one point I said to him as the it was getting heated, I said, I said, what the fuck are you doing in this line anyway? Why didn't you go in the self-check? What the fuck is your point? Good. I go, you could literally go there right now and be done with this. Why are you fucking still standing here? I don't know what he said. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. At the end of the day, um, that's how it went. That's what actually happened. And then once I was driving home, I'm like, Jesus Christ, like why did I let it even get to that? Yep. I don't like I don't want to be thinking about how can I knock this guy unconscious? And then we got ambulances and police and all that. But obviously, I don't want to be I don't want to be on the other end of that either. So when I felt in that moment that it could actually happen, my brain went there. Now I look looking back on it, I was like, I could have I I'm sure I could have diffused it. I'm sure I could have de-escalated it. Had I just turned to him and said and stayed calm and said, excuse me, sir, I realize that you're seemingly, you know, you seem to be uh in a hurry or getting frustrated. I there's nothing I can do about the situation. And there is a self-checkout, and you're free to go and do that. And so other than that, please let me just conduct the rest of my business here. Now, what could he have said to that? Fuck you. And then which way I could have said, well, you know, I'd appreciate you're not using that language, and if you continue, I'm gonna have to call a manager over here because you're starting to, you know, seem like you're causing trouble. And it's not my position.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:01

Yeah, but you're not on the Mr. Rogers show. I'm not. So you can do that. Normal people don't do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:07

But you can.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:08

You can't de-escalate. We're not wired for that.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:10

Also, normal people don't necessarily do what I did. Most people don't look at that.

unknown 1:08:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:16

Most people are not looking for that at the checkout counter at Ralph's. Yeah, there's some. I'm not. But like I said, I I thought back and I'm like, I could have, if I had stayed calm and not allowed myself to get triggered like that, I this situation probably would have gone differently. Because I think people, once they sense that someone's not going to engage in that drama, they probably will change their tune. Now, again, I could have stayed calm, stayed calm, and if he'd have persisted at some point, maybe I turned the corner and go say something different. But I felt like I didn't handle it as well as I could have or should have. I think it's better to not because I like I I reacted. As soon as he fucking started with his attitude, I immediately was like, hey, motherfucker, you know. And I probably could have said, you know, please, please don't talk to me anymore, sir. I this is not your business, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:14

That's not Noah that I know. Well, but I could have. That's a mature Noah that really doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:22

I have done that in the past. I have de-escalated in the past. And I I think I should have. But he shouldn't be such a fucking stupid asshole. Of course. I've been in lines where somebody was fucking counting their pennies, and a hundred-year-old woman is trying to pull five coupons out of her newspaper. And I, you know, it's like, oh shit, no, I've I picked the wrong line. But that's it. That's life. You gotta just accept it at that point or move on. You can't fucking start yelling at people. You just can't do it. No, but the best And I think that was a part of my thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:53

The best defense is good offense.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:54

Yes. And that's why sort of part of me was like, I don't he's wrong for doing this, and I want him to get that next time maybe he shouldn't open his mouth. Because it might be way worse than me. It might be somebody who has even less self-restraint than I do.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:07

And in your mind at that point, you got the win. And that's the way we unfortunately think a lot of the time.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:13

I got the win. I felt like this guy thinks he's going to intimidate somebody, and I don't feel like that's a good outcome. I don't think Bob should be allowed to.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:24

Here's a question. How do you think he would have handled it if it was a woman, a 60-year-old woman, doing exactly what you were doing?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:31

How would I have handled it?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:32

No, how would he have handled it?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:35

He'd have probably done the same. I think he'd have probably started saying, Come on, lady, what the fuck? Now she probably would have handled. She might have gone crazy. She would have kicked it. Women tend to go crazy on those because they know that the physical aspect of it is highly unlikely. So frequently I find that women have very little compunction about escalating. Because they know that that other eventuality is very unlikely. So that and that typically between men will be what prevents it. Is that do either or both of you really want to go to that eventuality? Yeah. Which usually one or both parties don't want. He didn't want that. He just thought he was going to be a bully and that I would be like, oh, geez, sorry, mister. Yes, let me hurry up.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:19

It's funny. My role model as a my father. He was type AAA personality, right? He's known for his temper.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:29

I remember him saying something about something about not leaving words behind.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:35

Something about No words left behind. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:38

No Jew left behind. Something about You know, Steven? That's me. Jen. You know, Jenda? The older I've gotten, the You know how you leave an argument and you leave a situation, and then you get in your car and you drive away and you think, what kind of zinger could I have said? What could I have said? I've gotten much better at being able to say those things. He escalated things. He was not a de-escalator at all. And I just remember he said that to me that I've gotten so much better in my life, him saying this. I've gotten so much better in my life at saying these one-liners, that's not a positive thing. I should have said it at the time.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:15

I've gotten so much better about saying mean, hostile things to people. But again, that's the thing. I think if I'd have stayed calmer, like genuinely kept myself in a calm, non-reactive state, I probably would have thought of better things to say to assuage his anger.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:35

There's always going to be better things to say. Yeah, but I mean in any conversation.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:39

But not likely when you get that upset. Because then I was just sp shit was just pouring out of my mouth, and all of it was hostile. There was nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:47

And nobody around said anything?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:48

No, everyone was scared shitless.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:51

Because they heard him being rude and bullying, and probably they're like, eh. And then when they're like, they saw what I was doing, they're like, oh no, we don't want to be here. Everyone kind of backed up a little bit. The cashier looked like a step back, and the people behind him kind of step back.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:05

How old was his red make America great hat?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:10

It was brand new. I think he had a fresh one every week.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:14

Um I'll tell you what, when people do shit like that, I equate them to that. Yeah you know that.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:19

He I he had that vibe a hundred percent. Yeah. Um I don't know. Like I said, I feel like, you know, it's funny because I thought, what would I have done if Gio was with me? That's a good point.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:29

Because I definitely What would you have done? That's a good question.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:32

I don't know. I think I I think I would have stayed calmer just for the fact that I would never want him to see a brawl break out, you know, or I wouldn't want him to see that happen. Um and I would just be more concerned with his safety.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:50

I would I would hope the guy behind you wouldn't do anything if you had a if you had a kid with you.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:55

People do, man. I've I've seen it happen before. I've seen it happen. They may be less likely, but I don't know. Well, I think we've covered a lot of ground today, considering we have no agenda. I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:06

We've covered Jews. A lot of Jews. We've covered a lot of Jews. A lot of Jews.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:11

In a quilt. In a quilt of love.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:14

We covered your Larry King interview. Yeah, we did. We hit on stuff that I can't remember. Wait. Because I was so riled up. That I can't recall.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:26

And again, I do not advoc advocate for violent confrontations.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:30

But if they happen, they can be really funny.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:34

Hopefully never again.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:36

Oh, I'm thinking of a show. Uh a great show. Uh he said oh uh he had a gun. He was a very sarcastic cop, like dumb cop.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:46

He had a gun. Oh my god. All cops have a gun. No, no, no. In the show. Get smart?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:51

No, no, no. Uh 90s. Probably. Oh, what was the show called? And his line was my favorite line in any TV show ever.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:59

Sledgehammer? Yes. Yes. How did you come up with that? I just sarcastic copy.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:06

It was sledgehammer.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:08

A gun is a very dangerous weapon, but if used properly, it can be a wonderful source of enjoyment. That's his line.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:15

That's a good one. Well, that is true. I'd rather need a gun. I'd rather have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:25

Sledgehammer you got. That's amazing. We speak each other's unspoken language.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:29

That is a little bit amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:30

You know what movie that's from? We speak each other's unspoken language. No. Sure thing. The sure thing. John Cusack. It was John Cusack, and he said that line.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:39

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:40

It's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:41

Noah, it has been an absolute pleasure as always.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:44

Jenna, I so look forward to these times that we share. Uh thank you for uh your your Jewish insights. Mm-hmm. And uh hope you all enjoyed and uh tell your friends and family.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:57

And we'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:58

Shalom, my friends, and drive safe.